as someone who accidently stripped one of the phillips screws of my steamdeck when upgrading the storage, the torx screws are in my opinion not a bug but a feautre... Yes, a phillips driver might be more common, but usually they are too big anyways and if your in a household that got those small precision phillips drivers, you probably also got torx drivers somewhere...
I'm just glad that the Steam Deck is a product people can purchase that doesn't help Microsoft maintain it's de-facto monopoly that people have given them. Fixing the desktop market share ratios is a huge win for consumers.
@@eyeofsauron7662what monopoly? Linux is open source, steam os is open source both are free and regardless if you use windows or Linux you're probably gonna be playing games on steam regardless
@@eyeofsauron7662 No to what? Yes I am supporting a "monopoly" in gaming with ~75% of all game transactions, but again a monopoly in desktops with ~95%+. Using a monopoly to fight another monopoly seems like a better plan than less than 1% of the population trying to fight said monopoly by convincing people to not support said monopoly. Epic could still release a launcher for the Steam Deck and help port comparability for games. Yet, they haven't made one and want to talk about fighting Valve's monopoly while selling games which have Linux ports without access to said Linux port or a system to play the game easily, Proton. I'll gladly support Epic if they ever stop doing Linux dirty. At the end of the day, who isn't? Blackrock, Vangaurd, Apple, Alphabet, Microsoft, Amazon, pick your poison but choose wisely. Remember UWP? Remember when Microsoft wanted to pull an Apple and try to gate-keep their platform so they could charge everyone for programs sold on it? I think the poison I'm taking will take longer to kill us while the poison you're taking will only accelerate our demise.
@@menliondoes7387the purpose of the steam deck is to increase Steam games sales. This is why they sell them at a loss. I assume the poster is referring to funding Valve.
100 percent agree. The philips bit was terrible when it was first adopted, and it is still bad today. The fact that they made the JIS screw, that looks almost the same, but a phillips screwdriver will more likely strip it out is also terrible.
it was introduced as an improvement to the flathead screw design, there weren't a lot of tiny screws back then, so stripping the head was less of a problem
@@fouzaialaa7962yeah basically existed due to machining limitations at the time. The flathead is extremely easy to manufacture and they needed something that would be cheap enough to produce to be worth the added cost.
Steam last year: Nah steamdeck refresh isn't coming, steam deck 2 wont be coming soon either. Out of nowhere: Steamdeck OLED is here guys its good trust me
Yeah cause "hey guys just incase you were planning on buying our product were gonna drop a new model soon so dont bother buying it until then" works great for business
they planned it well. suckered the community into buying the LCD while knowing they are going to release the OLED later. once all the suckers bought in, valve came out with the OLED and gave them a buyer’s remorse slap in their faces and they have no choice but to continue being SD fanbois, shilling it as the best. 😂
Another point missed about the steamdeck oled back cover screws. They are all now the same length. Can't longscrew the wrong hole anymore, as you could on the original LCD model.
My opinion about phillips vs torx screws is this. Although it may be true that most house holds have phillips screw drivers. often time they are too big for working with computer parts and as mentioned, they are more prone to stripping (Especially when you are using large drive on a small screw) Torx drivers should be in everyone's tool kit when opening up electronics.
@@Rashimotosan nah. Torx is better if you pick the right size. Which is easier to do than with phillips. Phillips often fits without really fitting.If you have a fitting torx you can pick the next size until it doesn't fit and use the one before that.
@@Rashimotosan both (other) stripped badly, made from crap and cheapest alloys. And all BS self tapping and similar crap... half rusted penny pinching everywhere. Problem (mostly) not screw head, but rest of engineering. By the way, tiny screw world ruled by flat head... look at wristwatch movement...
You're WAY WAY more likely to overdrive or overload the bit and the screw w a torx, and since an overwhelming majority of people don't have a torque limiting clutch its a much better option to go with phillips.
Good job to Lenovo and Valve. I wouldn't have a problem buying either of these if I had a good use case for them (I don't have time to game on the go). That said Gulikit has upgraded hall effect thumbsticks for the old LCD Steamdeck. I imagine they will have upgraded ones for the OLED Steamdeck as well, if they don't already.
"Philips is more common". Yes, and we should do whatever we can to change that. It is in competition with the flat-head to be the worst screw-head invented, and is arguably winning.
5:47 And this right there is what makes the Steamdeck feel so great. Most products on the market just feel like "products" nowadays and not something the people who developed it actually want.
Agreed. Those ports will suffer from mechanical wear but at the same time it's easy to see why they would be soldered to the board when space is at such a premium in these handhelds. A tough call for repairability assessment and we've had more than a few conversations with our colleagues about it.
I hear this but I have multiple old devices that I plug in multiple times a day. One is my 6 year old phone that sits in my linty pocket. And have never had a c port fail. What's the typical failure points for usb-c? Are they sensitive to being torqued too hard or something?
@@drewcipher896 It may just be a large user concern because of how many charge cycles the Steam Deck could get with heavy gameplay which is totally fair, would love to see something that could be replaced with the removal of one cable and a couple screws once the backplate is removed
Nice to see hall effect analog sticks coming standard in a handheld device, maybe Valve will give us that in the next Steam Deck. I'm really sad that I can't swap out my LCD panel on my original deck for the OLED panel, that you would have been great.
They've done the testing and with so much time and money spent on improving repairability, I'm inclined to believe them. I can tell you my own personal experience with replacement hall sensor sticks in the Deck were pretty positive but then again I haven't run them through extensive testing.
there still are third party upgrades like the deckhd, but yea its sad to see that there's not much choice for OLEDs. i personally never really cared abt the screen (but i might just not be very picky lol)
Man I like the idea of the lenovo device, but I just cant convince myself to get one after a horrible experience with their laptops and customer service.
it's because the steam deck is the standard handheld pc, and a lot of other handhelds draw inspiration from it. watch the new handhelds come out with oled screens and better efficiency to match the new deck.
Its more funny when you look at GPD's attempts at being competitive. They revived the handheld pc trend in 2016 but now all their products are really expensive so when the steam deck came out they went super competitive because of how cheap the steam deck is in comparison so they made a bunch of TH-cam videos comparing their devices to the steam deck always dissing it and they, a legitimate company (from China though so this all makes sense in a second), made a statement saying "youll wanna buy a gpd cause your gonna want windows to pirate games anyways" and everyone was laughing over that for months. I kinda feel bad for gpd, their stuff is pretty cool but now they probably lost more than half of their business, i have a gpd pocket.. its really slow though cause its from like 2017
The fact that Philips drivers are in every household is an issue since the chances these are the correct size are low and users tend to just use any old Philips driver massively increasing the chance of stripping the head.
Why does EVERY Steam Deck OLED teardown skip the part where you have to disconnect the ribbon cable that runs along the bottom of the battery? While everything else may be an improvement over the old LCD version, needing to disconnect at least one side of a ribbon cable to remove the shield really isn't good. Those connectors aren't designed for repeated disconnects.
I just beat Dark Souls Remastered on mine and am starting Pathfinder: Wrath of the Righteous. I also had an LCD and between the CPU bug being patched and the screen upgrade, it's just so much nicer. Refresh rate being synced with the frame limited is just excellent (being that the refresh rate is automatically adjusted to whatever frame limit you set it to). WOTR even has native Steam input now and plays really smoothly for a CRPG. Even Elden Ring looks like it runs more smoothly. I also saw a video that showed The Witcher 3 got an update that has a Steam Deck graphics preset, so that game may have to be reinstalled as well 😅
Please please post a detailed Steam Deck SSD replacement video, this is what most DIYers will be doing on day one, swapping out the SSD with the drive from their LCD deck into their new OLED Deck. This video can’t come soon enough!
This is a freakin' awesome video. I love tinkering with my PC, but I'm not very comfortable with portable devices. The most I did with my Deck is to swap out memory cards. Watching this video helps me realize that it is not that complicated at all to open up the Steamdeck all the way through. Thanks for the video!
Pull tabs under batteries on old devices break every time you try to remove them. Those things are just a joke for repairability. Try to remove a battery on a device 2-3 years old always kept in warm hands or pockets. The rubber is cooked and you can't pull anything.
I was waiting for the Legion Deck teardown, it is really well made, the cables are fine. And if you wanna compare the complexity in controllers then take a look inside either a Xbox controller or a PS5 controller. Although Lenovo being lenovo not adding support for OEM parts is concerning. So I'd just go with the Deck plus Valve will be committing to it for a long time. 😊
SteamDeck 650 dollars 1to with 1200x800 screen you can customize every button, assign what you want. Legion 2k screen JUST WHY, AAA games looks bad with 720p resolution, you cant customize your buttons.
Lenovo's offerings are a wait and see for me, as with the ROG. If they give good support for a full life cycle of the device, I might consider a v2. The problem with these other brands and their Deck competitors is that they have no where near the goodwill that Valve has built up and with how finicky these devices are and how software dependent they can be, it's a big gamble to go with ASUS or Lenovo even though I do desperately want that 20-30% better performance. They're big brands that don't have the best track record with it comes to product support or quality assurance. Valve, on the other hand, has a reputation that affords them something close worship from most PC gamers. It's just easier to buy a product from Valve, because you're sure you're in good hands.
This right here. I'm really tempted by the Legion Go to have a handheld Game Pass machine. But Valve and Proton, ridiculously strong software support, the Linux gaming movement, all of that just makes me want to swing for Deck a second time and get the OLED. Plus it has a 3.5mm headphone jack and TWO trackpads (mouse + scroll wheel). Valve isn't just a company. They are true PC gamers that really know good, practical design. That's why I'm looking at another Steam Deck.
Any design still using Phillips screws should lose a point. Phillips screws have always been terrible and should have been universally replaced with torx as soon as possible. It boggles my mind that Phillips screws are still being manufactured.
I have a legion go myself. But I will never remove the controllers, so I wonder if it would be possible to remove all the parts that are in the controller. So I mean, for example, the battery and also the laser and so on also the mechanics to decouple. Does the controller also work without a battery? I hope this will save a lot of weight
I love my OLED Steam Deck and had the LCD since day 1, but I wouldnt give a repairability score of 9/10. Most parts are impossible to find! So just because you can technically repair something, it doesn't matter if you can't get the parts.
I had the Ali express vented back plate on my deck and its deeper then the original if battery thickness is the only issue the vented back plate should fit the new oled battery fyi however the the vented plates back buttons contact point has to be grinded down with sand paper or a dermal as they are to long and always make contact, very easy to do
So what we are saying for using new OLED battery in older model, is we simply need an after market back plate that as a nice section expended for the extra couple of mm, Well if that come out im sure many people would be interested in changing back plate and battery ::)
Torx > Philips any day. Philips head screwdrivers, whilst owned by most, are usually the "In Dad's shed" type, massive things that are useless for opening smaller sized gadgets. If you're the type of person who likes to tinker with electronics, there's a near 100% chance you already have a multi-bit screwdriver set that already has all the torx bits you could ever want.
So with the number of Phillips screws that have stripped on me over the years, I will take Torx over Phillips any day of the week. Especially on laptops, handhelds, etc. I know it's less common but it isn't hard to get a set.
To be honest , switch is great its fun to play platform games on hand held however, i dont know who wants to play AAA games in little screen in metro subway etc
i just upgraded my 64gb, and the only difficult part was removing the back plate after unscrewing. i'm so excited for the next steam deck, i might replace my desktop entirely.
What I would be curious about, the battery might be too thick to close the back cover on but otherwise it still connects right? If so, what's stopping someone from making a new backplate with an extra inch of space? Possible future mod idea?
I don't get why Valve didn't go with pulltabs for the battery. The process looked slightly less terrible than before but I don't see what possibly could have been the downside in using pulltabs, especially if you went through the trouble optimizing repairability as is. What's worth noting is that there are quite a few reports of Steam Deck OLED Screens arriving with dead pixels. Whether this points to a bigger issue or it's just another case of only people with problems actually posting remains to be seen I guess.
pulltabs while fun to pull while fresh, it's pretty bad after few years, pulltabs also a but thicker than just pure adhesive. For real service places, adhesive is not a problem, just few drop from pro adhesive removal liquid, wait 10 secs then take it out, no visible damage to the battery whatsoever
@@pinkysweetsYou can use mild amount of IPA as well but as they said in the video and showed the frame on which the battery is glued on has holes in it, which lead straight to the display and thus any liquid can damage the display. They drilled those holes to reduce space.
@@FR4M3Sharma There are quite a few on reddit. Like I said, I actually hope those are individual cases since I ordered one and hope it's gonna be fine.
6:13 Wrong, you don't even know your own kits. I got the essentials kit from 2022 and there are just T4 and T5. The T5 fits somehow, but I used a T6 from elsewhere.
Question fot the Lenovo Legion GO. if I want to replace ONLY the fan, do I need to take out the battery first, or the fan can be replaced easily as soon as the back cover is removed?
Disconnecting the battery is always good practice, if you accidentally scrape a screw head bit over a couple resistors it will probably cause a short that won't be immediately noticeable but will eventually kill the device
Steam Deck will just work, almost hassle free relative to what is to be expected since launch. Legion is a major power vs convenience argument, the legion does not have the VALVE design in mind. Valve has spent years since SteamOS just making it work and it shows throughout. Legion is more geared towards power users or people who are tech literate. Good teardowns!
The Legion Go is also geared towards people who want to play non-Steam games on their device. This is the part that a lot of Steam Deck users are too dismissive of. SteamOS is very user-friendly, but having to install and configure Proton to get other games to work negates the "convenience" benefit of it. Power users like me would have no issue, but the average tech-illiterate gamer is not going to want to mess around with installing ProtonDB. Also, EA has become so heavy handed with their anti-cheat measures that you still can't even run Madden 24 on SteamOS. So, there is a benefit for average gamers in having a device that runs Windows.
I dont get why philips screws are a plus. I used to think they are better but the more tiny screws i messed up the more i think the world would be better without them.
It's mostly about accessibility for the average user. There's no doubt that other screw designs are more durable and resistant to wear but the trade off is how available those drivers are to the average person. It's often taken for granted for those of us that have access to a fixed blade Torx in various sizes to get to hard to reach screws but most would-be DIYers don't have that. Nothing against Torx of course. If it continues to become the standard then that might turn out to be a good thing.
Torx strips just as easily, it is not the screw design but the metal hardening. Try using a Torx 5 to undo a Torx 6, you'll hate Torx for its inability to take different size drivers. Whereas most Philips screws are stripped because someone used a driver several sizes too big or small - which would strip Torx much more easily
@@Tom--Ace thats not true, torx dont cam out as easily as philips by design. There are just more contact points within the screw which means supporting higher torque and increasing contact angle. Its true that most people mess up philips by using the wrong fitting tool but thats less likely to happen with torx by quite a wide margin i would say.
Every hardware store carries torx tools. By your mindset change for better is never acceptable because everything has to be able to be done by poor legacy tools when something better would be available. @@iFixitYourself
So I wanted to buy an OLED version as my first steamdeck and wanted to upgrade the ram and some other now that I see it's completely different internally I'm just not gonna worry about it
I cannot support Valve on this as they were extremely dishonest. They flat out lied to protect the sale of older models knowing full well they already had the oled in development.
@CaptainFordo21 In an interview earlier this year they said they have no plan for an updated steamdeck for a long time. At that time this oled model has to be already in planning/design stage. Of course, being dishonest asshole rarely works out, Rog ally was announced when everyone thinking there won't be a new model for a long time.
Im just glad i paid 500 dollars for 300 to 400 dollars of hardware instead of 899 to a thousand dollars for only 400 to 500 dollars worth of hardware which is what most places sell their computers for
Gpd win 4 is a psp beast but the tiny controls make it hard to justify using it as a gaming device, the built in keyboard is really cool but insanely tiny, everything about it is really cool but because of how tiny it is it just doesnt work that well with precision gaming. Im pretty sure the gpd win 4 is on par with the rog ally but it has double the ram so it has a lot of power someone should do a battery test
I was actually waiting for this video - a tear down of Oled Steam Deck. Nicely done!
Gamer's Nexus had a great one days ago, watch that also if you're still interested. They compared it to LCD one.
as someone who accidently stripped one of the phillips screws of my steamdeck when upgrading the storage, the torx screws are in my opinion not a bug but a feautre... Yes, a phillips driver might be more common, but usually they are too big anyways and if your in a household that got those small precision phillips drivers, you probably also got torx drivers somewhere...
Torx sucks
More than likely in the same kit
to be honest i love torx screws and i personally think they should be standard in everything instead of philips
torx is definitely superior
which torx bit does the deck use? t6 right? Yup it was a t6
I'm just glad that the Steam Deck is a product people can purchase that doesn't help Microsoft maintain it's de-facto monopoly that people have given them. Fixing the desktop market share ratios is a huge win for consumers.
No you just fund a different monopoly 💀
@@eyeofsauron7662what monopoly? Linux is open source, steam os is open source both are free and regardless if you use windows or Linux you're probably gonna be playing games on steam regardless
@@eyeofsauron7662 No to what? Yes I am supporting a "monopoly" in gaming with ~75% of all game transactions, but again a monopoly in desktops with ~95%+. Using a monopoly to fight another monopoly seems like a better plan than less than 1% of the population trying to fight said monopoly by convincing people to not support said monopoly. Epic could still release a launcher for the Steam Deck and help port comparability for games. Yet, they haven't made one and want to talk about fighting Valve's monopoly while selling games which have Linux ports without access to said Linux port or a system to play the game easily, Proton. I'll gladly support Epic if they ever stop doing Linux dirty.
At the end of the day, who isn't? Blackrock, Vangaurd, Apple, Alphabet, Microsoft, Amazon, pick your poison but choose wisely. Remember UWP? Remember when Microsoft wanted to pull an Apple and try to gate-keep their platform so they could charge everyone for programs sold on it? I think the poison I'm taking will take longer to kill us while the poison you're taking will only accelerate our demise.
@@menliondoes7387the purpose of the steam deck is to increase Steam games sales. This is why they sell them at a loss. I assume the poster is referring to funding Valve.
@@eyeofsauron7662And one that isn’t even compatible with everything 💀
Lenovo now sells parts for the Legion Go, so why not updating the score to 9/10 like the Steam Deck?
Why didn't valve just not use anything for the battery? Why not just let it sit there.
good question
I hate Phillips screws. The world would have been better off without it.
100 percent agree. The philips bit was terrible when it was first adopted, and it is still bad today. The fact that they made the JIS screw, that looks almost the same, but a phillips screwdriver will more likely strip it out is also terrible.
yes and the smaller the screw gets ,its gets harder to deal with it
it was introduced as an improvement to the flathead screw design, there weren't a lot of tiny screws back then, so stripping the head was less of a problem
@@fouzaialaa7962yeah basically existed due to machining limitations at the time. The flathead is extremely easy to manufacture and they needed something that would be cheap enough to produce to be worth the added cost.
Damn you Henry ford !
I thought the said louder, more bass, speakers were used in the oled model?
the OLED model does have better speakers. in the video he just stated that they both have similar sizes and can be interchangeable.
How is there so much dust in the fan already?
dirty room
Steam last year: Nah steamdeck refresh isn't coming, steam deck 2 wont be coming soon either.
Out of nowhere: Steamdeck OLED is here guys its good trust me
Yeah cause "hey guys just incase you were planning on buying our product were gonna drop a new model soon so dont bother buying it until then" works great for business
they planned it well. suckered the community into buying the LCD while knowing they are going to release the OLED later. once all the suckers bought in, valve came out with the OLED and gave them a buyer’s remorse slap in their faces and they have no choice but to continue being SD fanbois, shilling it as the best. 😂
Another point missed about the steamdeck oled back cover screws. They are all now the same length. Can't longscrew the wrong hole anymore, as you could on the original LCD model.
My opinion about phillips vs torx screws is this. Although it may be true that most house holds have phillips screw drivers. often time they are too big for working with computer parts and as mentioned, they are more prone to stripping (Especially when you are using large drive on a small screw) Torx drivers should be in everyone's tool kit when opening up electronics.
I feel like ive stripped more torx than philips tbh
@@Rashimotosan nah. Torx is better if you pick the right size. Which is easier to do than with phillips. Phillips often fits without really fitting.If you have a fitting torx you can pick the next size until it doesn't fit and use the one before that.
@@Rashimotosanyou're feelings are wrong though.
@@Rashimotosan both (other) stripped badly, made from crap and cheapest alloys. And all BS self tapping and similar crap... half rusted penny pinching everywhere. Problem (mostly) not screw head, but rest of engineering.
By the way, tiny screw world ruled by flat head... look at wristwatch movement...
You're WAY WAY more likely to overdrive or overload the bit and the screw w a torx, and since an overwhelming majority of people don't have a torque limiting clutch its a much better option to go with phillips.
Good job to Lenovo and Valve. I wouldn't have a problem buying either of these if I had a good use case for them (I don't have time to game on the go). That said Gulikit has upgraded hall effect thumbsticks for the old LCD Steamdeck. I imagine they will have upgraded ones for the OLED Steamdeck as well, if they don't already.
"Philips is more common". Yes, and we should do whatever we can to change that. It is in competition with the flat-head to be the worst screw-head invented, and is arguably winning.
Yea i always strip philips
I hate torx
@@Tom--Ace What's your preferred screw-head type?
@@v4lgrind mayber robertsons or hex?
5:47 And this right there is what makes the Steamdeck feel so great. Most products on the market just feel like "products" nowadays and not something the people who developed it actually want.
The Legion fan was quite dusty already. Good thing it is easy to get inside to clean it out.
This was surprising to us too! That unit had barely been turned on before we opened it.
its kinda sad that the Type C is still not user replaceable on the new steam deck oled
buy magnet usb c kewl
Agreed. Those ports will suffer from mechanical wear but at the same time it's easy to see why they would be soldered to the board when space is at such a premium in these handhelds. A tough call for repairability assessment and we've had more than a few conversations with our colleagues about it.
I hear this but I have multiple old devices that I plug in multiple times a day. One is my 6 year old phone that sits in my linty pocket. And have never had a c port fail.
What's the typical failure points for usb-c? Are they sensitive to being torqued too hard or something?
@@drewcipher896 It may just be a large user concern because of how many charge cycles the Steam Deck could get with heavy gameplay which is totally fair, would love to see something that could be replaced with the removal of one cable and a couple screws once the backplate is removed
Nice to see hall effect analog sticks coming standard in a handheld device, maybe Valve will give us that in the next Steam Deck. I'm really sad that I can't swap out my LCD panel on my original deck for the OLED panel, that you would have been great.
Fingers crossed!
They said they weren’t happy with their performance
They've done the testing and with so much time and money spent on improving repairability, I'm inclined to believe them.
I can tell you my own personal experience with replacement hall sensor sticks in the Deck were pretty positive but then again I haven't run them through extensive testing.
there still are third party upgrades like the deckhd, but yea its sad to see that there's not much choice for OLEDs. i personally never really cared abt the screen (but i might just not be very picky lol)
@@imalloy2699 I think the regular Steam Deck's screen is good enough, it's not amazing but not as bad as some display snobs make it out to be.
Man I like the idea of the lenovo device, but I just cant convince myself to get one after a horrible experience with their laptops and customer service.
And the screen being native portrait is a big downside too, especially for people who play older games.
I'd highly recommend checking out ChimeraOS and dual booting the device. The hardware is solid, we just need some software solutions.
@@iFixitYourselfany thoughts on bazzirite?
PCs with competitive features and pricing in 2023? This is the dream! Wish the desktop market could be this exciting again.
Hilarious that literally every portable device that comes out is "the steam deck killer" now. Just like 10-25 years ago, every MMO was the WoW killer.
it's because the steam deck is the standard handheld pc, and a lot of other handhelds draw inspiration from it. watch the new handhelds come out with oled screens and better efficiency to match the new deck.
Its more funny when you look at GPD's attempts at being competitive. They revived the handheld pc trend in 2016 but now all their products are really expensive so when the steam deck came out they went super competitive because of how cheap the steam deck is in comparison so they made a bunch of TH-cam videos comparing their devices to the steam deck always dissing it and they, a legitimate company (from China though so this all makes sense in a second), made a statement saying "youll wanna buy a gpd cause your gonna want windows to pirate games anyways" and everyone was laughing over that for months. I kinda feel bad for gpd, their stuff is pretty cool but now they probably lost more than half of their business, i have a gpd pocket.. its really slow though cause its from like 2017
Waiting for someone to do a 32GB RAM mod on the Legion Go. :)
Same story as ROG ALLY. Good hardware but... But Deck is still the king because of 1) software, 2)eco system 3) price and finally TRACKPADS! :D
The fact that Philips drivers are in every household is an issue since the chances these are the correct size are low and users tend to just use any old Philips driver massively increasing the chance of stripping the head.
Why does EVERY Steam Deck OLED teardown skip the part where you have to disconnect the ribbon cable that runs along the bottom of the battery? While everything else may be an improvement over the old LCD version, needing to disconnect at least one side of a ribbon cable to remove the shield really isn't good. Those connectors aren't designed for repeated disconnects.
Great video! Where can I get that NES controller "Classically Trained" t-shirt? That's awesome!
Would love to tell you but it was a birthday present. Not sure where it came from! A quick Google search will give you some options though :)
@@iFixitYourself Nice! I found some similar designs but they don't look as nice. I'll keep searching, have a great day!
5:15 HOLY FREAKIGN CRAP. Lenovo?! Of all People?! Im absolutely dumbfounded. Flabbergasted even..
7:15 BOOOOOOO! Valve / Steam... Take Notes. Pots are out.
Only an american complains about torx being used.
that’s why they are stuck with the imperial system while the rest of the world uses metric
That's pretty cool the Legion Go has a dedicated scroll wheel, I wish more UMPCs had that.
Wheter i have the device or not: it is good to see that (at least some devices) are very easily repairable!
Good work!!
I have them both and the GO is best hands down! I play PUBG and that won't happen on the steam 😔
I ultimately went for the OLED steamdeck, the go has more bells and whistles but I feel like the steamdeck suits my needs more.
I bought mine after work on black friday, can't wait for it!
I got one and love it.
I just beat Dark Souls Remastered on mine and am starting Pathfinder: Wrath of the Righteous. I also had an LCD and between the CPU bug being patched and the screen upgrade, it's just so much nicer. Refresh rate being synced with the frame limited is just excellent (being that the refresh rate is automatically adjusted to whatever frame limit you set it to). WOTR even has native Steam input now and plays really smoothly for a CRPG. Even Elden Ring looks like it runs more smoothly. I also saw a video that showed The Witcher 3 got an update that has a Steam Deck graphics preset, so that game may have to be reinstalled as well 😅
You don’t like bells and whistles?
Please please post a detailed Steam Deck SSD replacement video, this is what most DIYers will be doing on day one, swapping out the SSD with the drive from their LCD deck into their new OLED Deck. This video can’t come soon enough!
Pretty sure they already have one
This is a freakin' awesome video. I love tinkering with my PC, but I'm not very comfortable with portable devices. The most I did with my Deck is to swap out memory cards. Watching this video helps me realize that it is not that complicated at all to open up the Steamdeck all the way through. Thanks for the video!
Pull tabs under batteries on old devices break every time you try to remove them. Those things are just a joke for repairability. Try to remove a battery on a device 2-3 years old always kept in warm hands or pockets. The rubber is cooked and you can't pull anything.
Love your videos - but stop shaking your hands while talking
signs of a chronic wanker
I was waiting for the Legion Deck teardown, it is really well made, the cables are fine. And if you wanna compare the complexity in controllers then take a look inside either a Xbox controller or a PS5 controller.
Although Lenovo being lenovo not adding support for OEM parts is concerning.
So I'd just go with the Deck plus Valve will be committing to it for a long time. 😊
SteamDeck 650 dollars 1to with 1200x800 screen you can customize every button, assign what you want. Legion 2k screen JUST WHY, AAA games looks bad with 720p resolution, you cant customize your buttons.
Lenovo's offerings are a wait and see for me, as with the ROG. If they give good support for a full life cycle of the device, I might consider a v2.
The problem with these other brands and their Deck competitors is that they have no where near the goodwill that Valve has built up and with how finicky these devices are and how software dependent they can be, it's a big gamble to go with ASUS or Lenovo even though I do desperately want that 20-30% better performance.
They're big brands that don't have the best track record with it comes to product support or quality assurance. Valve, on the other hand, has a reputation that affords them something close worship from most PC gamers. It's just easier to buy a product from Valve, because you're sure you're in good hands.
This right here. I'm really tempted by the Legion Go to have a handheld Game Pass machine. But Valve and Proton, ridiculously strong software support, the Linux gaming movement, all of that just makes me want to swing for Deck a second time and get the OLED. Plus it has a 3.5mm headphone jack and TWO trackpads (mouse + scroll wheel). Valve isn't just a company. They are true PC gamers that really know good, practical design. That's why I'm looking at another Steam Deck.
Any design still using Phillips screws should lose a point. Phillips screws have always been terrible and should have been universally replaced with torx as soon as possible. It boggles my mind that Phillips screws are still being manufactured.
I have a legion go myself. But I will never remove the controllers, so I wonder if it would be possible to remove all the parts that are in the controller. So I mean, for example, the battery and also the laser and so on also the mechanics to decouple. Does the controller also work without a battery? I hope this will save a lot of weight
Hey at 03:50 does anyone knows how he disassembled the Legion Go controller? just the 4 screws does not allow me to open it
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When are the daughter boards coming for the 1st gen Steam Deck. I have a bad left button and I'm tired of waiting. 😢 Just bring it in stock.
do you think Philip Head and Allen Key ever explored each other's bodies?
Y'all SEGA did Hall Effect in the past. So no Lenovo is not the first major manufacturer to use Hall Effect.
I love my OLED Steam Deck and had the LCD since day 1, but I wouldnt give a repairability score of 9/10. Most parts are impossible to find! So just because you can technically repair something, it doesn't matter if you can't get the parts.
The LCD revision definitely was more than 2 months ago, mine is a revised model and i got it during the summer sale in July
is it just me or was that legion go fan looking 12 months old.
Torx>Philips in any small electronics applications. Also, not everyone should tamper with this hardware, especially when they have woodcutters hands.
It should be forbitten to not have easy exchangeable akkus, in such devices.... F* that sh*t. Greed everywhere
I _really wish_ the upgraded parts could be swapped into the older model(s).
lmao no. go buy a new one
valve is gigachad for designing with diy repair in mind
I had the Ali express vented back plate on my deck and its deeper then the original if battery thickness is the only issue the vented back plate should fit the new oled battery fyi however the the vented plates back buttons contact point has to be grinded down with sand paper or a dermal as they are to long and always make contact, very easy to do
So what we are saying for using new OLED battery in older model, is we simply need an after market back plate that as a nice section expended for the extra couple of mm, Well if that come out im sure many people would be interested in changing back plate and battery ::)
Is the battery from the left Lenovo thingi swollen? ಠಿ_ಠ
Nobody is talking about them because they are practically Chromebooks PC with lowend specs in a handheld form factor XD
Torx > Philips any day.
Philips head screwdrivers, whilst owned by most, are usually the "In Dad's shed" type, massive things that are useless for opening smaller sized gadgets. If you're the type of person who likes to tinker with electronics, there's a near 100% chance you already have a multi-bit screwdriver set that already has all the torx bits you could ever want.
Nice this Lenovo Switch Go.
Wanted the steam deck for my girlfriend, the straight forwardness of Steam OS is perfect for her
BUT...
It can't play minecraft
Still deciding tho
I love valve. they really think about the customer.
So with the number of Phillips screws that have stripped on me over the years, I will take Torx over Phillips any day of the week. Especially on laptops, handhelds, etc. I know it's less common but it isn't hard to get a set.
steam just makes the best hardware out there because they are gamers first and foremost id buy the steamdeck just to support steam
That everybody is talking about*
If the go wasn't packed with half-baked gimicks, I'd probably own one already.
I mean, at least, they try to compete with console. And this is awesome ! Tired of all those exclusivity non-sense.
Without steam deck, there won't be Legion Go nor Ally... Support steam deck.
To be honest , switch is great its fun to play platform games on hand held however, i dont know who wants to play AAA games in little screen in metro subway etc
Please make full video teardown Legion Go Controller, I just want to know is it easy and safe to disassemble the controller or not.
Windows rotten everything that it touches.
Im not a fan of the removable switchlike controllers but that thing is so masive and heavy I'll give it a pass.
But soon they might switch to torx plus screws which are still harder to find in certain parts of the world... :X
"If you have one of our tool kits..."
It was then that I realized whose channel I was on. And yes, I do haha
Lenovo Legion Go cant play starfield. Idk about steamdeck
i just tested it. 150fps on steam deck. you better get one now.
Did not know the Lenovo handheld used hall effects. If that device has or gets good Linux support I might just swap out my Steam deck on that alone
i just upgraded my 64gb, and the only difficult part was removing the back plate after unscrewing. i'm so excited for the next steam deck, i might replace my desktop entirely.
1:41 2:17 man that fan looks bad for a new device, are lenovo used old laptop fan and slap into legion go?
Wait , so we cant remove the thermal for cleaning without remove frame and the battery ?
I'd like to think that every household has torx set. Why was that described as an issue?
What I would be curious about, the battery might be too thick to close the back cover on but otherwise it still connects right? If so, what's stopping someone from making a new backplate with an extra inch of space? Possible future mod idea?
Someone already did that, but with their own battery
Ah, the forbidden cheese.
I have no idea why but this gave me axniety watching you tear it down lol
Those are some huge hands
If you look closely, you'll find they get bigger in every video.
Nice clickbait, it's all anyone has been talking about actually.
I don't get why Valve didn't go with pulltabs for the battery. The process looked slightly less terrible than before but I don't see what possibly could have been the downside in using pulltabs, especially if you went through the trouble optimizing repairability as is.
What's worth noting is that there are quite a few reports of Steam Deck OLED Screens arriving with dead pixels. Whether this points to a bigger issue or it's just another case of only people with problems actually posting remains to be seen I guess.
i mean, it's pretty standard, in pretty much any device with a screen there's gonna be some of them with a few dead pixels
pulltabs while fun to pull while fresh, it's pretty bad after few years, pulltabs also a but thicker than just pure adhesive. For real service places, adhesive is not a problem, just few drop from pro adhesive removal liquid, wait 10 secs then take it out, no visible damage to the battery whatsoever
I haven't seen a single report on Steam Deck OLED arriving with dead pixels. Wasn't the case either with Switch OLED.
@@pinkysweetsYou can use mild amount of IPA as well but as they said in the video and showed the frame on which the battery is glued on has holes in it, which lead straight to the display and thus any liquid can damage the display. They drilled those holes to reduce space.
@@FR4M3Sharma There are quite a few on reddit. Like I said, I actually hope those are individual cases since I ordered one and hope it's gonna be fine.
Classic F-ing Lenovo antenna
Ugh...
6:13 Wrong, you don't even know your own kits. I got the essentials kit from 2022 and there are just T4 and T5.
The T5 fits somehow, but I used a T6 from elsewhere.
I'm sorry. It just dawned on me that you can use the TR6 from the kit for the T6 screws. So the guy is actually right.
Question fot the Lenovo Legion GO. if I want to replace ONLY the fan, do I need to take out the battery first, or the fan can be replaced easily as soon as the back cover is removed?
Disconnecting the battery is always good practice, if you accidentally scrape a screw head bit over a couple resistors it will probably cause a short that won't be immediately noticeable but will eventually kill the device
Steam Deck will just work, almost hassle free relative to what is to be expected since launch. Legion is a major power vs convenience argument, the legion does not have the VALVE design in mind. Valve has spent years since SteamOS just making it work and it shows throughout. Legion is more geared towards power users or people who are tech literate. Good teardowns!
The Legion Go is also geared towards people who want to play non-Steam games on their device. This is the part that a lot of Steam Deck users are too dismissive of. SteamOS is very user-friendly, but having to install and configure Proton to get other games to work negates the "convenience" benefit of it. Power users like me would have no issue, but the average tech-illiterate gamer is not going to want to mess around with installing ProtonDB. Also, EA has become so heavy handed with their anti-cheat measures that you still can't even run Madden 24 on SteamOS. So, there is a benefit for average gamers in having a device that runs Windows.
I need that shirt! Classically trained here too.
Steam Deck OLED
The prominent enunciation is a bit much for me 😅
I dont get why philips screws are a plus. I used to think they are better but the more tiny screws i messed up the more i think the world would be better without them.
It's mostly about accessibility for the average user. There's no doubt that other screw designs are more durable and resistant to wear but the trade off is how available those drivers are to the average person. It's often taken for granted for those of us that have access to a fixed blade Torx in various sizes to get to hard to reach screws but most would-be DIYers don't have that.
Nothing against Torx of course. If it continues to become the standard then that might turn out to be a good thing.
Torx strips just as easily, it is not the screw design but the metal hardening.
Try using a Torx 5 to undo a Torx 6, you'll hate Torx for its inability to take different size drivers.
Whereas most Philips screws are stripped because someone used a driver several sizes too big or small - which would strip Torx much more easily
@@Tom--Ace thats not true, torx dont cam out as easily as philips by design. There are just more contact points within the screw which means supporting higher torque and increasing contact angle. Its true that most people mess up philips by using the wrong fitting tool but thats less likely to happen with torx by quite a wide margin i would say.
To be fair, the philips screws are literally a plus.
Every hardware store carries torx tools. By your mindset change for better is never acceptable because everything has to be able to be done by poor legacy tools when something better would be available. @@iFixitYourself
sd card slot like shjt: why do not like sim slot:
So I wanted to buy an OLED version as my first steamdeck and wanted to upgrade the ram and some other now that I see it's completely different internally I'm just not gonna worry about it
Not an LA1 chip but an LAI chip....think about it.
I cannot support Valve on this as they were extremely dishonest. They flat out lied to protect the sale of older models knowing full well they already had the oled in development.
Where did they lie? I never felt like they hid anything.
@CaptainFordo21 In an interview earlier this year they said they have no plan for an updated steamdeck for a long time. At that time this oled model has to be already in planning/design stage. Of course, being dishonest asshole rarely works out, Rog ally was announced when everyone thinking there won't be a new model for a long time.
Im just glad i paid 500 dollars for 300 to 400 dollars of hardware instead of 899 to a thousand dollars for only 400 to 500 dollars worth of hardware which is what most places sell their computers for
@@user-TheTrueGibly You have no clue waht are you talking about... Just stop.
@HyperOpticalSaint he is just salty
That was a lot of dust in that fan
0:17 torille
I'd like to see GPD Win 4 vs Steam Deck
Gpd win 4 is a psp beast but the tiny controls make it hard to justify using it as a gaming device, the built in keyboard is really cool but insanely tiny, everything about it is really cool but because of how tiny it is it just doesnt work that well with precision gaming. Im pretty sure the gpd win 4 is on par with the rog ally but it has double the ram so it has a lot of power someone should do a battery test
Timestamp heroes.
How did that go get so dusty