It's fun to focus on Alex in this song because he's all over the place with his guitar! That background of Geddy singing "rising falling at force ten"... in the arena, they had speakers set up on the opposite side of the arena so that the vocal would circle around 360 degrees.
This is their best recorded version of Force Ten imo. Better, thicker sound with the Jazz Bass and the overall production just sounds better than the thin sound on HYF. It just sounds more rocking here.
Hold Your Fire is one of Rush's best albums as far as I'm concerned & really epitomises their massive 80's synth sound. I love it. It's just that phase of music from Signals, 1982, right through to Roll The Bones in 1991 that really set them apart from everyone else. I started to move away from Rush a little from Counterparts onwards, only finding the rocket sauce again with Clockwork Angels, which is an absolute masterpiece.
R30 rehearsals: "OK gang, how are we going to play out this tune?" "Let's play it as if Hold Your Fire had balls" "You mean besides the ones on the cover art?" "EXACTLY!"
With the R40 Tour they skipped HYF. So there is that. Personally, me, and my friends were hoping they would play. Time stand still. It would have seemed fitting for the tour.
With you on this one J., but Force Ten comes to life in this concert...the bass tone and placement are nice (even the chordal parts... %^) The guitar has that crazy sustain...think Adam from Tool might have heard some of this? The sound elements in the production overall are amazing. Neil is just right....some productions have overdriven drums. Alright, react to Bangkok...he never reacts to Bangkok.... ;)
Not a fan of post-Windows Rush, but this song sounds good live. Most of their music got watered down after the mid-80s, but hell, any band with 10 awesome albums under their belts is Hall of Fame.
Yes, I agree. One of the better songs off Hold your Fire and I find that when they do these songs live they seem to add to them which makes them more enjoyable.
My favorite off HYF (though Mission is close)...HYF is probably Rush's weakest record (at least bottom two or three) but I think Tai Shan really drags it down more in people's minds than maybe it should.
the twee love letter to China song is ridiculous. Neil has a few lyrical efforts that leave me going "wtf", not many, but a few. Like I understand that having some appreciation for ancient China is a thing one could do, but post Mao, being the guy who wrote Anthem and The Trees, he should have known better (and I could point this kind of thing out about a few tunes on every subsequent album).
It’s a good song. Not among their best but I enjoy it once in a while. FYI - they played Force Ten on the following tours: 1987, 1990, 1991, 1994, 1996, 2004 then 2012. So obviously they like it. I could have done with it a little less. They played it on every tour for a decade straight. Too much.
They really didn't play much of anything off Presto other than Presto and The Pass after like 1994. They didn't play anything off it on the R40 tour (no HYF or Power Windows either) because they played a bunch of that era on the Clockwork Angels Tour (First 9 songs were from Moving Pictures/Signals-Presto/Roll The Bones depending on the night). The 80s stuff can sound dated and a little corny, but in a live setting they hit you right in the face. Just wait until you get to the Clockwork Angels Tour stuff.
A memorable tour. Saw 3 shows (Chicago, Milwaukee, and Toronto). Got a pair of used sticks in Chicago. I always enjoyed hearing that jackhammer effect. Cool reaction. I wish Geddy played his Wal instead. Thx for sharing this.
Hold Your Fire is definitely one of my favorite Rush albums. My first exposure I think was Subdivisions (from Signals) on MTV. Hold Your Fire was also the tour I saw them in first. They never have done much from Presto, but I think they usually did The Pass, just to slow things down and get the entire audience bowling, I mean bawling lol. Would love to see Geddy in those bowling shoes and his floor length white Kimono style gown.
I love the fact their all having to use midi pedals or pads to achieve a perfect rendition. I was glad they chose not to do anything from presto, personally my least favourite Rush album
They opened with Force Ten on the Presto and RTB tour-and funny how on the VT tour they hit every album but COS & HYF, and on this tour they omitted Presto🤷♂️and hey, whatever they wanted to do(or not do)was ALWAYS cool with me.🤘🖖✌️🎸🥁🎹🎤
I love it so much! I think my favorite song from hold your fire is Mission Tai Shan is also gorgeous. My least favorite part of their catalog was always the 2112 era, but at some point, I absolutely converted, and now I love all the versions of Rush. What’s your favorite era? I think for a lot of people it’s their debut album up through Moving Pictures.
It's fun to focus on Alex in this song because he's all over the place with his guitar! That background of Geddy singing "rising falling at force ten"... in the arena, they had speakers set up on the opposite side of the arena so that the vocal would circle around 360 degrees.
This is their best recorded version of Force Ten imo. Better, thicker sound with the Jazz Bass and the overall production just sounds better than the thin sound on HYF. It just sounds more rocking here.
I agree 100%
A lot of thin sounding guitar on that Hold your fire tour
Agree!
Justin (I SEE FOOT PEDALS) Panariello 😝😝😝🤘🏻🤘🏻🤘🏻
Everytime I hear this I think of monk’s chanting😝😝😝🤘🏻🤘🏻🤘🏻
Hold Your Fire is one of Rush's best albums as far as I'm concerned & really epitomises their massive 80's synth sound. I love it.
It's just that phase of music from Signals, 1982, right through to Roll The Bones in 1991 that really set them apart from everyone else.
I started to move away from Rush a little from Counterparts onwards, only finding the rocket sauce again with Clockwork Angels, which is an absolute masterpiece.
No their missing….CINDERELLA MAN…their missing it so…it could of been A+++ but instead it’s only A++
R30 rehearsals:
"OK gang, how are we going to play out this tune?"
"Let's play it as if Hold Your Fire had balls"
"You mean besides the ones on the cover art?"
"EXACTLY!"
😂
ALEX IM FINDING THE BEAT WITH MY FINGERS LIFESON 😝😝😝🤘🏻🤘🏻🤘🏻
With the R40 Tour they skipped HYF. So there is that. Personally, me, and my friends were hoping they would play. Time stand still. It would have seemed fitting for the tour.
With you on this one J., but Force Ten comes to life in this concert...the bass tone and placement are nice (even the chordal parts... %^) The guitar has that crazy sustain...think Adam from Tool might have heard some of this? The sound elements in the production overall are amazing. Neil is just right....some productions have overdriven drums. Alright, react to Bangkok...he never reacts to Bangkok.... ;)
Justin( OK FINE ITS FINE FINE!)Panariello
Fun fact: Neil Peart’s drum solo featured the drumming from “Scars”, off of… Presto! So all albums covered 😎
Wow that's an awesome observation I would expect from a drummer.
Nice job Alex! Absolutely love this song since I heard it on A Show of Hands back in the 80s. And a lot of fun to play!
Not a fan of post-Windows Rush, but this song sounds good live. Most of their music got watered down after the mid-80s, but hell, any band with 10 awesome albums under their belts is Hall of Fame.
Yes, I agree. One of the better songs off Hold your Fire and I find that when they do these songs live they seem to add to them which makes them more enjoyable.
Rush was always the best live show for the money.
Yeah, why would they do a song off of Presto? It's only their third best album.
My favorite off HYF (though Mission is close)...HYF is probably Rush's weakest record (at least bottom two or three) but I think Tai Shan really drags it down more in people's minds than maybe it should.
the twee love letter to China song is ridiculous. Neil has a few lyrical efforts that leave me going "wtf", not many, but a few. Like I understand that having some appreciation for ancient China is a thing one could do, but post Mao, being the guy who wrote Anthem and The Trees, he should have known better (and I could point this kind of thing out about a few tunes on every subsequent album).
It’s a good song. Not among their best but I enjoy it once in a while. FYI - they played Force Ten on the following tours: 1987, 1990, 1991, 1994, 1996, 2004 then 2012. So obviously they like it. I could have done with it a little less. They played it on every tour for a decade straight. Too much.
They really didn't play much of anything off Presto other than Presto and The Pass after like 1994. They didn't play anything off it on the R40 tour (no HYF or Power Windows either) because they played a bunch of that era on the Clockwork Angels Tour (First 9 songs were from Moving Pictures/Signals-Presto/Roll The Bones depending on the night).
The 80s stuff can sound dated and a little corny, but in a live setting they hit you right in the face. Just wait until you get to the Clockwork Angels Tour stuff.
Id wear bowling shoes every day of my life if i had the fame... money and talent of Guitar God Alex Lifeson !
What's crazy is that the other two members are even MORE talented.
Justin says: GOOD JOB ALEX!
A memorable tour. Saw 3 shows (Chicago, Milwaukee, and Toronto). Got a pair of used sticks in Chicago. I always enjoyed hearing that jackhammer effect. Cool reaction. I wish Geddy played his Wal instead. Thx for sharing this.
That's too bad because Presto is one of my favorite Rush albums, probably my favorite post-Signals album
Good job, Alex. 😂
I saw Rory do the one legged hop (I call it the chicken hop). Probably where Geddy got it from? :)
ALEX(BOWLING SHOES)LIFESON 😝😝😝🤘🏻🤘🏻🤘🏻
Hold Your Fire is definitely one of my favorite Rush albums. My first exposure I think was Subdivisions (from Signals) on MTV. Hold Your Fire was also the tour I saw them in first. They never have done much from Presto, but I think they usually did The Pass, just to slow things down and get the entire audience bowling, I mean bawling lol. Would love to see Geddy in those bowling shoes and his floor length white Kimono style gown.
This excellent live version makes 'Force Ten' almost enjoyable as a track.
Almost.
I love the fact their all having to use midi pedals or pads to achieve a perfect rendition. I was glad they chose not to do anything from presto, personally my least favourite Rush album
Rush "LIVE" that's all you really need to know. 👍👍
The Fender Jazz and PRS change this song from synth pop to hard rock 👍
Animate is great..lol! Be well and God bless… from Texas!!!
"Who doesn't like this?" 😆 HYF fans help me out here!!
But, are bowling shoes really that weird when it comes to Alex?😅😂
Geddy's voice is starting show the years. "Tough doiiimes..." 😁
The more u listen to this one.. the more u love it.. Long Live Rush !
Rush is defiantly a more cohesive unit when they are jamming.
"He's wearing bowling shoes"!!🤣🤣🤣
Super song Super version Like Dreamline it has to grow on you and they improved it in the live arena on every tour.🤘🖖✌️🥁🎸🎹🎤
Dreamline didn't have to grow on me. lol It's a top 10 Rush song in my book.
Great version of a great tune. Awesome snare tone. Jazz > Wal.
Neil just effing owning it…ya know…the usual…
Not my favorite from Hold Your Fire, but I still like it.
I think they always to resist because it gives Neil a break after his solo
The ONLY time you’ll hear Neil Peart play a straight 4/4 Rock beat!
Saw this tour in Cincinnati. 13th row. It was great
Alex just bowled a 300!!!!!!
Or maybe golf shoes...? 🤔
Alex is wearing golf shoes 😁
They opened with Force Ten on the Presto and RTB tour-and funny how on the VT tour they hit every album but COS & HYF, and on this tour they omitted Presto🤷♂️and hey, whatever they wanted to do(or not do)was ALWAYS cool with me.🤘🖖✌️🎸🥁🎹🎤
GOOD JOB ALEX!!!
I like the chorus sections!
It’s the only song worth listening to on hold your fire! 😝😝😝🤘🏻🤘🏻🤘🏻
I love it so much! I think my favorite song from hold your fire is Mission Tai Shan is also gorgeous. My least favorite part of their catalog was always the 2112 era, but at some point, I absolutely converted, and now I love all the versions of Rush. What’s your favorite era? I think for a lot of people it’s their debut album up through Moving Pictures.
I absolutely love open secrets, prime mover, mission and turn the page. I don’t understand all the hate with that album. I guess I’m in the minority 😅