Test | Honda CRF 300 Rally bike build finished!
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 4 ก.ค. 2024
- We finally test our Honda CRF 300 Rally build with a decent adventure that mixes it with much bigger bikes. The results confirmed what we always thought, this little bike is an adventure slayer, but did we mention the budget? It was blown to pieces along the way. But don't despair there is a cheaper solution.
In this final episode of the Honda CRF300 Rally bike build, Dave Darcy, Shooter/Producer of Motorcycle Adventure Dirtbike TV and Editor at Large of Australian Adventure Bike Magazine and Andrew Clubb, Editor of Australian Adventure Bike Magazine, take their newly built 'Red Rooster' on a decent motorcycle adventure to see how it stacks up against the much bigger competition.
A huge thanks to the listed sponsors that provided the parts free of charge.
Rally Raid Products UK - suspension and bar risers
www.rally-raidproducts.co.uk/
Link International - Arrow Exhaust, Polisport Handguards, Pirelli Tyres
www.linkint.com.au/home.html
B & B Off Road - Bashplate and Tail Rack
bboffroad.com.au/
Unifilter Australia - Foam Airfilter
www.uniflow.com.au/
CHAPTERS
00:00 Introduction
01:30 Why the Rally?
02:46 Adventure Test
03:45 Top Three Modifications
05:50 Clubby's Impressions
09:50 Mo's Build
12:04 Budget Blow Out?
14:07 Clubby's final words
17:45 Next build 2023 Husqvarna 501
18:14 Clubby drops the Rooster
20:40 Sponsorship - ยานยนต์และพาหนะ
Australia: producing motorcycle content for us northern hemisphere folks that are experiencing winter.
We'll try our best.
Some of us are riding lol
Winter
What is winter
We ride al year round
@@colinshurey976 You ride in feet of snow?
@@13crajuh yes?
As usual, engaging and very helpful content, thank you so much. Also, I appreciated the sponsor transparency as well.
I appreciate that! A lot of people on youtube aren't declaring their interests.
Y'all are awesome. Thanks for sharing the incredible work.
Thanks for watching!
Cheers Dave/Clubby... highly informative, valuable and balanced.
Much appreciated thanks Graham
Love this. Keep producing these amazing builds guys!
We will! Have you seen the Husky 501, the BMW310, Honda CBX500, Husqvarna 701 builds on this channel?
Great series, and I am sold on this bike, I am saving now to put down one one. Thanks guys
Our pleasure! I think it's a great bike.
You're welcome Dave... and I look forward to the progress of the 501 build.
Me too. Starts very soon.
Awesome build, guys. Very much enjoy the channel. Keep it coming!! Look forward to the Husky build. 👏
More to come!
As always guys a great, well organised, well presented review. Such a great bike build. Keep it two wheels down as always. Looking forward to the husky.
Thanks! Will do! Yep looking forward to the Husky build.
Enjoyed the series. Will help me prioritize my add ons for my Rally.
Good idea.
Really nice work James!
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Thanks for this series guys. Was pumped to see the final results! Your initial review of the bike and watching Itchy Boots take it half way around the world convinced me this was the direction to go. Can't wait for delivery... hopefully in mid Feb this year - placed my order in July 2022.
I can't believe they haven't got production levels up. I'm aware of stacks of people waiting.
I haven’t even seen one here, or a T7! Ohio, USA.
@@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV I'll be ordering one.. this is the direction I want to take also.. wish me luck on the wait time.
I ordered mine in Perth last July as well and received it about a month ago. Have you got yours yet?
@@Dan4096 I'm in SA - ordered in July and received second week of March. Loving it so far!
Great video guys! FINALLY got mine a few months ago, really even better than expected right out of the box. 100% spot on about the bar risers and exhaust, but I must say the 87stock improved ECU was well worth it. Not a huge difference in power, but noticeable. Biggest difference was it is so much better down low and no more on/off twitch in the throttle. Putting my nickels up for the suspension, WAY too soft for me at @220 with gear plus camp gear. Definitely still well worth the price, I can’t imagine ever needing more bike for my style of riding. Stay safe!
Agree. Although when we side by side tested ECU against standard there was no difference.
Thanks for this series guys! They pushed me over the edge in July 2022 to order my crf300L, and the Rally-Raid L2 suspension. It arrived in November and cost $6400 USD out the door. It's 1F in Minnesota right now with deep snow cover. I can't remember anticipating spring (or at least temps over freezing) so much.
It will be good for you in your area. It will do the tough stuff well.
lol I'm in MN as well and I can relate. We haven't even seen sun in what feels like 2 weeks
I agree with top 3 priority replacements. I have a stock 2018 Rally 250, I can’t wait to replace my suspension.
Great bike besides the suspension
Thanks Liam
Ordered mine here in Perth last July and got it about a month ago. Can't wait to get stuck in!
Good result
Top film, thank you gentlemen
Glad you enjoyed it. It was fun to make. Such a good bike.
Every time I have another ride on my “keeper” 2012 WR250R, which is really well set up for adventure riding, I am immediately reminded how effective a light frame and small motor can be. They are seriously fast, especially on the rough and slippery terrain we ride on here on the Eastern seaboard. I love my equally well set up T7, but the grin factor is with the 250. Thanks Dave and Clubby for your job well done.
The Yammy 250 is a weapon. Most likely you've seen our reviews and builds on this channel. Sad they don't make them anymore. Towards they end there they were getting expensive, 12 ish on road.
My brother is a Wr250r loyalist 😁
I had one for 6months and flipped it during COVID tax to get a 300 Rally.
On road, I have absolutely no regrets. Off road, I miss the suspension ha.
But at the end of the day, if you want to do long low maintenance exploration, you aren't hitting table tops? 😅
im in the same boat as the enduro1955... have a T7. thinking about a wr250r or a 300 rally... whattaya reckon?
@@TwoWheelerSparky
Nice work with with the 300 Rally !! Been seriously looking at adding one to the stall as a lighter weight option over my 790R for local & shorter ADV rides. I had a CRF 450 some years back and really liked it, just don't need that much power in the woods anymore as I'm getting older.... This bike looks like a great option. Dave J
Go for it! Excellent option.
nice job and a great build 👍
Ta
Good job guys,love the way the 501 was just not even working following the little red revver
They are a cracking bike.
Love u guys and this bike, was happy to see you give it some love and a build. Your initial review was awesome. Iv got my '18 KLX250 built to the Hilt and will never give it up, its better suited for the riding I do 50/50 dual sport/single track explorer. But IF I did more adv style riding this would be my bike. I cant be the only one that cant stand B Itchy Boots mentioned every other comment on a 300L Rally either...You guys ride A LOT bettter.
Thanks mate. I sincerely wish more people would agree with you. :)
Yep. I've never seen Itchy Boots push her CRF. She travels solo and is consistently mitigating risk by riding conservatively and simply chugging along. Mentioning Itchy seems mostly relevant to reliability, range, and approachability..
I have one waiting as soon as a title can be obtained. Finally. Good show and build mates. See you
Thanks Sam.
merci beaucoup beau travail pour cette Honda 300 crf rally j'adore merci encore........thank you very much nice work for this Honda i love it thank you again ....cool cool
Merci. Thanks for watching.
Awesome bike! Sold my 890 and moved to the Rally. Best decision I have made! Brilliant in the bush and competent on road.
I used YSS suspension and it is amazing!!
Great to hear!
Been thinking about getting one for a couple years now! and I think I just might finally get one before this summer. either a the 300l or 300L rally or 450L. It would be used mostly for commute for a little while until I get to know where the best trails are in my area. and just have fun on it. that's what it's all about for me.. and new hobby as well. I'm 40 years old and been putting it off for the longest time! lol
You've just got to find one. They are difficult to come by.
You made the right choice not to change anything with the motor and electronics IMO. I have received numerous suggestions for what I should of done while upgrading another big TH-camrs CRF300 Rally that just weren’t necessary nor wanted by the owner, including suggestions for cam swaps, ECU changes, clutch swap etc. She already has a tough time finding replacement wear parts! Honda built a surprisingly good bike for the price, but had to make compromises to accomplish that knowing most people wouldn’t put their bike to the test very often or for any length of time. For those that do, the upgrades that you have done are highly recommended! Not cheap, but we’ll worth the investment.
Thanks Bill.
G’day Mate … thanks for the test … and the Aussie accent … 👍🙏🙌✌️
No problem 👍. .... Mate
Thoroughly enjoyed following this bulid. Brilliant content and very informative information. After a 14th month wait im now the owner on a crf300rally. What a fantastic bike.
Excellent news Travis and thanks for the liking the series.
Mine arrives in March i believe. Cannot wait.
You will really enjoy it, I guarantee.
Had a 300L for about 6 months and put alot of money into it before I sold it and got a Husq FE 250. I liked the 300l I just realized I wanted something better for Enduro/single track but I could definitely see myself getting a Rally for commuting/touring/exploring.
Yeah good for those things
Great vid/build. Though I ride the 390 adventure, this bike has also enticed me as well.
I love the 390
Thanks for sharing this great series of videos, I have the 300l with the K-tech suspension, and it works great,the good thing about crf300 is that there are many choices when it comes to aftermarket parts, so people can choose how much they want to spend, and that is awesome.
Thanks for your contribution.
Have the Ktech rear and front and wow the difference is night and day. From Skittish and at times downright dangerous to Bullet proof dirt and road mauler! 😊
I have nearly 6k miles on my 300Rally now in a year. Hands down a fantastic bike. I can cruise highway without a single bit of issue, I can hop into dirt and keep up with the bike bikes no problem. Honda killed it with this bike!... now if only we could get a 500-650cc Rally
Well we've been saying that for a long time.
I put in the HSS shock and front spring for my weight and for a fraction of the Rally Raid price, I transformed my bike. Couldn't be happier.
That's one alternative. There's a couple.
I have a 300 rally with Ktech front and rear a FMF pipe. It does everything so well. I was out today with a few T7s a 690 and a 701. On the dirt in mid WalesI think I had the easier time, on the tar it'll hold 65-70.
A bit more grunt would be nice but in the first four gears it's plenty. The throttle cbr body mod looks effective and pretty cheap.
I'm off to Morocco on mine in September so a change of air filter will be needed , the twin air is favourite for that.
Thanks Motobobber
Well done guys very interesting series on this beautiful little bike. A bit annoying that on the build revision you managed to nearly match price wise my cheapskate upgrade with basic suspension upgrade 😝
Noted!
I wanted to get one of these for my first bike but I still haven't even seen one available where I live. So, I'll just have to get by with a second hand KLX230 until they become more available. Thanks for the review of what's possible with the CRF300L RALLY.
Thank you, worth the wait.
I have $2k US in my little rooster, and I have plans on dumping another $2k US into it to get it right where I want it to be. Some people say I’m crazy, but I don’t think I am, because it will be everything that I could ask for, and I have no plans to ever get rid of it. The only reason i would ever consider selling it, is if they produce that unicorn that you mentioned earlier that doesn’t even exist! One year/1500 miles later, and the little bike is more fun every day I ride it. And it’s RELIABLE!
I enjoyed watching your build!
Thank you. I think it is worth throwing the money into it.
Great build, Dave. The modded red rooster might just be the ticket for many. Let's hope though someone brings the Kove 450 Rally Down Under this year or next so you can review it. Cheers
Fingers crossed! That Kove looks very interesting.
I would buy it. It offers a bigger engine, ABS and a secondary shaft (no vibrations).
The Kove looks good on paper, but the service intervals and oil changes are moving into CRF450L territory. Coupled with the unknown regarding long term reliability and spares support I'm sticking with my CRF300L Rally for the time being. I will be keeping a close eye 9n them though...
Well done on the mix up of old and new videos for the final cut 👍
As for "performance mods"; Viewers do some research. Price can vary 400%.
No matter what, just enjoy what you have and can afford. Get out there 👌
400%, I think that is a little over the top. Please show us how you came to that figure, or in fairness this post should be removed.
This has been a brilliant series, super informative, thanks.
Lotta comments about "better" bikes from those who don't quite seem to grasp that not everyone wants what they want. It's not all about horsepower. The extra horses in some of those "better" bikes actually makes them worse in every way that matters to me.
I agree, they don't quite get it.
You have great open spaces down there
I am a new follower of your channel Greetings from Türkiye 😊
Welcome!!
I fell in love with the 300L before I bought it (grew up on honda bikes), in part from this channel's initial review. After I got one, I never modded the suspension, and felt in that stock state, and my weight at 185lbs, the bike was dangerous on the ohv trails in Western US states. Heavy and sluggish to respond. I eventually bought a ktm 500 (22) and never looked back. I know..$$$, still if you got the $$$, try the ktm 500 instead. I love the 300L, especially how it looks, and wanted to love it but I got a fever when I ripped that ktm 500 during a single 30 min test ride. I'm an adventure rider who likes to ride single track on sketchy trails for context. 300L is a great bike with the suspension, but still nothing near the new KTM or 501 in terms of nimbleness on the more technical off road terrain.
Thanks
I agree the Honda is bullet proof and heavy as well and built to a price, after riding one I also agree the suspension is a let down being too soft.
it's still a good bike.
The Little Red Roaster👍
A great little Rooster or Roaster.
Great build on the mighty CRF300L Rally fellas!
They’re rare as hen’s teeth in the US as well. That’s why I went with the Kawasaki KLX 300, though I’d have preferred the Honda for the wind protection and increased fuel capacity.
I don't understand the shortages. That is the only thing limiting their domination of the adventure world.
@@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV I’m not sure either. On Honda’s part maybe they are limiting sales until the Transalp is out and going?
They can’t think they limiting the CRF300L will boost Africa Twin sales since they at other ends of the ADV spectrum.
I’ve been told that the invasion of the Ukraine has interrupted certain raw material production. I would have thought companies would have found other sources by now, if they relied on the Ukraine for those materials.
The pandemic is minimized…
I dunno just thoughts/ramblings.
Great job on the build. Possibly the best price-performance you can do with off-road focused ADV build. And the Husky 501 will probably be the best expensive off-road focused ADV build, so it's a really nice followup. If possible, it would be nice to get direct comparison between the two. How much more you get for 2-3 times the cost, but the 300 might be gone by then.
It won't be three times the cost. Yes I agree.
That's the comparison I need! 600 mile journey, some dirt, some trail, some highway. 501 or the Rally?
Or 1600 miles!
My kove 450 rally had hand guards and carrying rack lying around. Just adjusted suspensions setting and preload to my like. Working good for me. Still for long distance rides prefer my ktm640 adv. As can carry more items and fuel range about the same. On weight,the atmosphere about 15 kg heavier but that I clouds rally plate with tools inside and panniers racks for soft bags. On 40 km trip use water proof soft bags only and camped most of time. As stayed mostly to central and western Australia. Also did Cape York two times over years. I did keep Kim in Australia at time. Now married with children. Little time to solo trips nowadays.
Not here yet.
Honestly, I'm so excited to see the end result of this motorcycle as well as the Husqvarna build! I can't believe the Husqvarna went up price by nearly 2k just for the heritage graphics 😳 comparing to the 2022 model
Yeah a lot of movements on models with prices from all brands.
the online Salesman budget needs to be added :)
@@motozz8258 Good point. I wish they payed, but then I'd have even more explaining to do .
@@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV Well if that's the case where does the revenue come from ? Is there a break down of the mags revenue we could have shared.
Great job guys! can i ask what road you were on when you were talking about the bikes suspension etc keep the great vids coming!
Down around Wiseman's Ferry.
I think I waited over 3 months for mine. The dealer was getting only one or two the whole year. I love mine. And this is after having an Africa Twin AS DCT, then 450L. Well, and 50 others before those...
Yeah. Clubby and I really rate it.
Spending AU$3500 on this bike is simply not a problem because the ONLY competition is the KTM690 (and variants), and you can't actually buy a new one for under AU$19000, but then you still have an unreliable high maintenance princess! I just rode 5500km across Australia with my son on a Rally and a Standard without a single issue. The only time I missed my Africa Twin was with 40km/h head winds, but we just slowed down to 90. That slight inconvenience was vastly insignificant to the huge advantages of heading off on unknown trails and beach tracks knowing that whatever you came across could probably be ridden or in the worst case, you could turn the little bike around on the track and head back! This bike has a modern high revving engine (it is NOT a thumper) and needs to be ridden as such, once you get that into your head it is a cracker!
I think the AJP PR7 is a good competitor to the 690 and in some aspects the red roster.
I agree. Mind you a second hand KTM690 is a worthy contender.
@@PetterIvarsson agree mate, for this kind of money the difference is night and day. PR7 doesn't throw rocker arms, fork seals or fuel pumps either. They're up to $18k new now though :( but some bargin low km ones I've seen recently around the 10k mark. If they get much closer to 701's they may be in trouble, especially if husky/ktm are finally on top of their 700 range reliability for new models as is the buzz.
Simon, thanks .. best wishes.
I did 5.5k kms round Northern Thailand recently on a crf 300. It's a brilliant bike and reliable. The stock suspension is good for tarmac but not suitable for off road. It's a bit heavier than a ktm but a lot cheaper and doesn't require intrusive maintenance. Oil and filters and away you go without a care.
She's perfect, but I still wouldn't let go of my XR500R. Peace, love and motorcycles.😎
Yeah XR500s wow that's a while ago when they were sold.
@@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV mine is a 1981 👍
These bikes are selling like hot cakes here over the ditch. Awesome build again and great content. Curious on what happened to your bmw 310gs? Your videos of it and the build helped me decide to buy a second hand one couple of weeks ago and hoping to build it like yours.
Yeah the Beemer 310s are still around.
Hi guys, loved the build and the Christmas morning like enthusiasm you guys have for motorcycles.
Just wondering what effect the new suspension etc had when on the tarmac and bends. Thanks again, from Ireland 🍀 looking 🙏🍀.
Good question! It was great on the tar as everything is firmed up.
Add Rally Raid, KTech or YSS suspension they all do the job much better than stock. The only question is how much and how extreme you want to go
I had a 250L and really enjoyed it. The seat was just horrible for what I used it for so I sold it and bought a Ducati Scrambler which I love. I miss how nimble that bike was, and it was just a all around fun experience.
Seat upgrade was the first thing that I did to my Rally.
Agree. A great little bike. I found the seat comfortable.
@@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV it has to be the way we are all built, everyone is different. I truly didn’t want to give up my stock red seat because it was a part of the esthetic of this bike, but I could not sit down on that stock seat for more than 30-45min without my rear end falling asleep. Had it not been for a quality aftermarket solution, I would have had to sell the bike, despite how much I love it.
@@airadaimagery692 Clearly you arse is shaped very differently to mine. :)
I must have been the lucky exception ....walked in the Honda shop in Marbella S.Spain and 2 people had cancelled their crf 300 l the week before....so 10 days later I had my little red rooster 😊😊😊😊😊
that's great but in Australia there are queues of people waiting.
@CF not sure ask Jose pinto at the service Honda Marbella shop..
Just did the cbr300 cams and the air intake boot with the 550 performance ecu on my rally. Have also dropped down to a 38t rear sprocket. Makes a good difference. More power through the whole rev range and sits on 120km no worries. Bike runs alot smoother overall. Wasn't too hard of a job either. Still gotta check if I've lost the low end. Will head out to a local hill climb this weekend to check.
Update: Still tractors up hills no worries. Maybe a loss in some bottom end with the sprocket change but the extra umph makes up for it. Also, I forgot to mention that you can buy the parts from Honda Thailand through bikerzbits to save a fair few pretty pennies
OUrs standard could sit on a 120. all day
@@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV I highway commute into work everyday and the difference is night and day for me.
I'm more than happy with the ~$400 spent. And I enjoyed the day tinkering. For anyone else reading this comment, Im with all the others that think, at minimum, the ecu is a mod worth doing. For instance, I would prioritise it over blowing my budget on a titanium muffler..
@@luke3892 Each build path is different.
ECU upgrade is the way to go, the bike is just more alive
The Itchy Boots lady has done big KMs bottom to top of the Americas but after 30k it's needed a mini overhaul, suspension seems to get a mention everytime but I reckon if your 75kg it's a great bike.
Alex for many 75 kgs is not an option :)
@@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV Well me also thats why I have an extra 950cc and suspension rated for two plus luggage ;-)
Would love to see you build up a Ural!
Well that's not going to happen :)
Hands down to you for detailed review for us which are lurking the bike. Seeing the modification price list, I can not but wonder....for the total price you can buy ktm, husaberg, beta or something alike. And this crf becomes faint version of these bikes. Honda did a great job with this bike, and I hope that in time some cheaper suspension parts will be available.
yeah good point
been following this build since day 1.. This is my dream bike.. However, in the Philippines, it is considered an expensive bike..
Built in Thailand, maybe you pay extra tax?
@@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV The price is the same as the other countries.. But in the Philippines, majority of the riders can only afford a 3000 USD bike or less..
@@Ikkimoto18 Thanks for pointing that out.
@@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV I love your videos! Keep it up!
Hi Dave, nice video, as always.
I’m considering one of these 300 Rally’s or a Kove450. I’d be keen to see if you’re planning to test a Kove450 when they’re in AUS? Thanks mate.
Yes we are interested in testing one if they come to Australia. But there is no point if they can't be registered here.
Enjoyed the Series, well done mates, awating ktm 390R hoping this will be the ticket. I am vertically challenged 73 Years young lifetime offroad rider, may have to use a quba link, we will see. Thanks
Good choice great bike
Great build series, really enjoyed this guys. I've just ordered here in Wales. What model ProTaper bars did you end up with ? so many to choose from . Cheers, Mark .
Good point. Clubby ordered them. I recall he got the version that gave slight lift. Sorry. I'll see if I can find out.
I disagree a lot about the ECU. But not for HP purposes. The 550 ECU big positive is the fact it smooths the off and onto idle low rpm throttle response. It makes the trickling difficult bits much easier and controlled. Completely agree the suspension is number one. In order, Rear, then front. The front if not aweful stock, the rear is...
BLOODY ABS!!!!!! Bloody dangerous in the dirt!!!!
Agree about the ABS.
Looking forward to this, will be sorry to see the end of it... what time is this on in the UK, I'm guessing 10 pm tonight but I'm absolutely shite with time zones, Daylight saving and Zulu time is ok, but my head hurts after this lol
9am
@Motorcycle Adventure Dirtbike TV Cheers, I didn't realise you tube time worked automatically for time zones. Loved the wrap up video, my Mrs was watching with me, and I was waiting for the "Haven't you got an exhaust like that one" but luckily no questions were asked 😀
I just want one.
I can understand that.
Great job, guys! Congratulations! And how has the weight of the Honda changed after all these modifications?
Not much. But we didn't weight it. At a guess it's about 2 kgs lighter than when we started.
Tell me about being over budget 😂. I’m about $19,000 aud in mods on my crf300l🥴. But omg it’s good.
Well good on you. It must be a slayer.
i love it but too high for my height so i took 250cc adv touring haha. i dont do extremes afterall
Fair enough!
Got RaceTech f/r on mine....at the time there was not much available. I got one of the first rally in the US so not too much of anything available. Now I'm thinking of the RallyRaid f/r shorter version for my short ass.
Short version, works a treat.
Did you guys change anything to the ecu mapping ?
All modern bikes suffer a bit from lean running engines, adding a bit more fuel removes a bit of low end vibration and adds some smoothness.
It actually made my ktm 390 run a lot nicer, fuel consumption doesn't really change a lot.
By the way, to be able to setup the bikes sag correctly when you add luggage or any other weight, the hydraulic preload adjuster was a great add on.
The spring rates + the needed preload set the sag of the bike, using the correct sag means the bikes geometry is as it's designed. The bike will ride at it's best with the correct sag settings. 10kg more or less, especially at the level of the rear fender will change how it steers without correcting the sag.
Lovely bike by the way, the red rooster, you don't need a lot more than a bike like this to have fun.
Thanks for your response. We didn't bother with ECU changes on this bike, because it didn't seem to make a difference according to people who'd ridden both. That said it makes a big difference with larger capacity bikes.
Hai I'm from Philippines my dream motor cycle 😍 CRF300 💪
So cool!
Really like the bike and love the build videos but throughout the whole thing, I get the impression that Clubby just isn't convinced. Seems like he wants a bigger/more powerful engine, which in my mind is missing the point. I see one of these in my future, thanks for all the info. Dave.
No, Clubby likes it a lot, but hungers for a few more ccs.
I want to see Nugget put it through it's paces!
Nugget will not be getting his paws on the Rooster!
@@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV Dave when I read your reply I burst out laughing. You and the boys have created many brilliant videos and I look forward to the next long form adventure feature.
Great series Dave and Clubby.
At just on $16k as fitted , interested to know what the FE501 cost and what it will end up at to get similar fit-out.
I know the suspension on the FE501 is way better than the stock CRF300L / Rally but did you also have to re-spring for your larger mass and the gear on the Husky??
Most bikes seem to be spring for the lighter rider of the 70 - 80 kg mark not us bigger and heavier blokes of the 100KG + range
Any experienced and advanced trail rider of any 100KG - 120 KG plus gear is going to have to do something to most stock set ups.
Agree. It will be interested.
Great videos and very informative. How would you compare the final version of your 300 rally build, with a DRZ400 and a DR650? Thanks. TG
It's great for a tough adventure bike but so is the DRzzzz.
How about the KLX300 which comes out of the box with better suspension? Any plans for doing a head to head on these two reliable. 300 light dual sports? Loved your channel you have inspired me to purchase a 2022 Tenere 700 and going off on has many adventures here in Florida. You have become the most honest and reliable source of information on the subject of off road adventure. Kepp it up!
Thanks Mate for the compliment. We do try, although we appreciate we don't get everything right. Not sure if we can get our hands on a KLX300.
Pretty sure the KLX300 isn’t available in Australia mate.
@@beejoutbush3322 I saw one in epping Melbourne this week so they are here in some capacity.
More trail than adventure.
@@beejoutbush3322 Older KLX300 are on-sale but in on-road registered spec from 2021 (not 100%) and KLX300-R and Stockman are off-road & farm spec something about the ABS cannot be switched off to comply with ADR (so the dealer told me).
Thx for the nice vid 👍 would the CB500 X be any good as a adv bike and what would you change? With my 6.3 ft and 110kg i think the crf300 is to small for me.... Happy trails guys 👍
Look around this channel we have modified the CB500 X extensively.
Very tactfully, never revealed before & after dyno for exhaust
It was never about power improvement with the exhaust Ian, it was about weight saving.....over 5 kgs! and sound. We had considered testing it and I had made steps to have it done but to be frank we didn't think it was worth the hassle which would have been a week of stuff around. Now you have your explanation perhaps you may reflect on your comment. Not everything is a conspiracy.
Mention of dyno testing early in the series caught my attention, as I can't remember one for bike exhausts in decades. Being similar weight to you boys, my budget will be suspension 1st, then massage the pension!
@@55Agro good.
Maaaaate!
Kove 450 rally when available,would be a good test.
Agree
If Honda does come with an S model, they should also come with a sport model. With the suspension of the motocross bikes. top noch SHOWA suspension,with all the tuning options.front and rear.Tuned for aggressive riding. Even track riding. That we don't have to go, even to the tuner. At most, change springs according to the rider's weight.
Just like Honda sells the CRF450R, in two versions. The Regularl and the more equipped one.
Good point. Yeah I could imagine an A and B model
The performance 550 ecu made a big difference for me. It cant be all in my head. I also do have a yoshimura pipe, it felt so rich. ECU fixed that.
I also have the 550 stage 1 ECU and that little extra punch at any given RPM made a big difference to the handling of my 300l
Riders I know who have compared them head to head with or without, haven't found a clear advantage, and in fact found the standard more grunty off the bottom end. But you've done the mods, why don't you reach out to someone that is standard and make your own comparison.
@@guestappearance3211 Well it's not definite. As I said. For example the rider Mo featured in this video pitted his against an ECU modified bike and his performed better in that it had a more useful bottom end. This observation was conceded by both riders.
@@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV The 550 upgrade with the air box mods take this bike to the next level, you have been misinformed. Low down grunt and rideability are improved
@@freefly4585 The guy who back to back tested them and side by side raced said there was nothing in it and in fact went faster. I have known him for years.
Just wondering if solar charging could be integrated and possibly use the lid as a battery storage system, overnight charging of kit is difficult so being able to charge daily either by the bike or other then use that battery bank in a secure place ro charge for example a drone would be amazing
No idea. Not sure you'd get enough power to charge a drone.
As an older someone looking to get into adventure riding, hopefully do some BDRs, and eventually the TAT, do you think spending the money you did on the 300L Rally is worth it over buying something like the KTM 390 Adventure that already comes with a more powerful engine and better suspension out of the box? Not sure what the tradeoffs are there but I do know I want a smaller lighter weight bike to do the types of things I mentioned. I'll take other bike suggestions here as I need a handful to test ride when I start shopping here in coming months. I'd like to keep whatever I look at modern with fuel injection, low maintenance, reliability etc. over raw horsepower.
You have to ride both they are both good bikes but very different in their approach
So... 11000 USD Honda CRF 300L... thats impressive! Could get a very nice used GS for that money or a KTM or something I bet! xD But I love this, I dont think its a problem really building these up... its a solid bike and still cheaper to keep and run than anything in the 20k+ range..
This bike is the Suzuki Jimny of the MC adventure world! ;)
Fair enough!
Great Video. Lots of inspiration. But my dilemma here is, do I keep my stock 250 Rally and start throwing money at it or do I trade up for a 300 Rally (or a 300L) and start with the newer slightly more powerful bike? I will on occasion need to do some longish highway stints
Maybe wear that one out and then get a 300
Guys What a great facelift on the Rooster......... I'm curious what was the Weight savings was on the Arrow exhauts system for the 300 Rally .......... I'm on the fence given its price.... Also have you been keeping an eye on the sub frame given how hard you guys push the bikes....... Im Wondering if its survivling all the impacts given the load on the bike...
Yes. It's still in the family. A brilliant bike. We do discuss the weight savings during the build videos.
Would you suggest going straight way to the newly published Honda XL750 which also gives 21-18 wheel but a larger power on par with T7, or this little brother with rest money investing in aftermarket upgrade as you guys did?
On the day of the announcement of the Honda XL750 we believe that if you ride lots of dirt or you are a reasonably advanced rider you'll be spending money on suspension. See our Live broadcast. You really need to know what you are going to do with this bike. If you're riding the TET then the 300, if you stick to open stuff the twins are nice.
Nice build guys! BTW what is your opinion about the AJP PR7? It's 650cc 165 kg, 17.5 tank. I think beats this honda and even the T7. ;)
Old technology. Not interested.
Wish Honda would make a CRF450 Rally along the lines of the 300LR but with better factory suspension.
many people have this wish.
A full pipe & muffler kit can be bought from Aliexpress for about $220AUD (delivered). How it compares in performance, noise & weight against the OEM and Arrow is hard to say, but the price is tempting.
I can tell you one thing. It won't be made of titanium. :)
@@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV Putting a pipe and muffler kit on an Enduro bike does only two things.
1. Empties your wallet!
2. Make it annoyingly louder!
There are no better ways to throw your money down the drain!
@@DennisMerwood-xk8wp No three things. SIGNIFICANTLY reduces weight. A ridiculous amount of weight.
@@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV How much weight? And if you tell me you can notice that in everyday play riding - I won't believe you! Been there-done that!
@motorcycle Adventure Dirtbike TV - do you have any plans to review the Voge 300 Rally - maybe sold in Aus as Locin 300 Rally. Bike in UK is 1/3 off the price of a CRF300 Rally, from reviews has better suspension off the bat and as standard comes with rear rack, crash bars, usb power at bars, would be interested in you experienced view/review of it.
No. Not coming to Australia to my knowledge.
That motor will go forever.. under stressed but will plod forever, when you compare it to a ktm 350, the delivery and power .. its night and day. Agreed on the bigger option..come on Honda !! Chuck us a 450 or 500 Rally !! You wouldn't be able to make them fast enough ...
Sadly, it is not going to happen. All the engineering effort is going into electric.
Hey Dave and Clubby , Rekon we,ll get the cove 450 rally here in oz ?
Hope so
Small bikes rule! If I get trust my KLX250 (351) I would like to us it on rides that I use the 650 VStrom on.
Yep.