Honda CRF300L Rally Suspension Build Rally Raid Products Level 2 Long term build
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- In this episode Dave Darcy of MAD TV and Andrew Clubb, the Editor of Australian Adventure Bike Magazine commence the bike build of their long term Honda CRF300L Rally. The plan is to spend no more than 30% of the price of the bike on improvements which is about $4000 AU.
For both Clubby and Dave suspension is everything and they've put a decent proportion of the bike build budget to purchasing an installing the Rally Raid Products UK, level 2 shock kit. Pirelli Scorpion XC Mid Hard tyres were fitted front and back. A very dirt oriented tyre for tough off road conditions.
At 9 minutes in, that was the most useful explanation of sag ever. Amazingly simple.
I thought that too.
What an amazing difference between the stock and rally raid suspension I am very interested in seeing a full review on it
Coming soon!
Awesome vid. Thanks for your work. Love it. Always entertaining and informative without any BS.
Much appreciated!
As always, great content and excellent film production, but most enjoyable is the banter and friendship between these two, Dave and Clubby, great chemistry! Fantastic build. Have you thought about adding the Adventure Rally X (Australian made) navigation tower? It looks lighter, and frankly much cooler with their lights.
Glad you enjoyed it
The spring does come of the shock quite easily with a shock spring compressor tool. Locknut under the top clevis. Fair bit of locktite though. I pulled it apart to experiment with shock length before buying a new shock. You can actually shorten the shock by moving the locknut to the top of the clevis mount. Heaps of room between nut and the clevis mount. The stock shock sucks badly though, so it is pretty much a budget only lowering track for those who won't buy a new shock anyway.
Mountainbikes have had single side damping/spring split for a VERY long time. Some race bikes have singleside spring/other side shock.
Mate it must be different shock. Ours was welded on.
@@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV If you want, send me an email address and I will send you pictures. I made an aluuminium top spring retainer to replace the steel lump as well. You can message me via facebook messanger if you like.
Same here. Looked like fixed for good, but indeed there’s a nut under the plate. Spring replaced - not perfect but much better than stock setup (for beginner level like mine, at least) 👍
Awesome review guys .. suspensions definitely make a difference n money well spent .. thanks again for fantastic video
Our pleasure!
I own a Gen II KLR 650 with upgraded suspension and it was the best thing I have done to it but I'm 64 now and thinking of something lighter. I have looked at the Rally before and wondered. I love the KLR but I can see this bike in my future. Only thing I'm worried about is will I be as protected on those long road trips to where I have to ride. I've done three BDR's here in the US and want to do a few more and each one is at least 1000 mi . Cant wait to see what you guys do with this. Thanks!
I don't think you would be as protected on a CRF as you are currently on your KLR.
I sold my beloved KLR and bought the Rally. It’s got great road manners and love the significant weight savings when I drop it. So far, I have not needed to upgrade the suspension but have not loaded up for a BDR. 185 lbs and ride aggressively age 63. My friend dropped a boatload on a KTM 500 EXE trying to make it into an ADV bike. He must be into it $15K! We road Moab and backcountry to Colorado on a long 8 hour day. The Honda was amazing and I left him in the rear view mirror on the hiway. And he almost ran out of gas despite an extra bottle. The Honda slipper clutch reduced fatigue. His drive train and motor harsh and fatiguing. I added an SRC Moto rear tail gear rack sign built in 0.9 gal Rotopack gas container. Upgraded Pegs and added Bark Busters. Need ADV bags. Should be an amazing BDR bike.
@@captainklr6508 well I wound up selling my KLR in one day at what I paid for it brand new in 2013😁. Bought the Rally and did full RR suspension and a bunch of other stuff. Did the NEDBR in September and had a blast. Best decision I ever made. I have a full on street bike so this 300 Rally has turned out to be a perfect decision for me. I love it. No worries if I drop it. It’s easy to pick up. Yea it’s a little lacking in power but I just twist the grip a little more. Also great for running errands around town with 80 mpg!
Great job Gentlemen!
Just completed a 2500 mile off road DS adv loop through Idaho and Montana on the 300L with RRP Level I suspension - worked perfect! Stock would have bottomed out all the time.
Fitting the kit was easy following John's careful instructions and provided additional hand tools.
Juan
Nevada City, CA
That is awesome! Fantastic trip Juan and Jenny, please give us the link to youe youtube travels and I would post here.
Awesome. One of those in electric would be perfect for me. 👏😍
You and me both!
Kinda makes me regret trading my 250L Rally for my 450L. But I like the power gain for the riding that I do.
16 hours left.. Notification bell ON.
lovely job looks like a winner
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I am surprised that with Soo much feedback about the soft and underwhelming suspension that Honda has not spent just a bit more and put on a better adjustable unit similar to those on the crf450L or at least a rear shock with better adjustment.
Me too. They have a real gem there.
It really should be a factory option. But I sprung for the RR Level 2 kit and it’s great!
Who makes the different sidestands, Rally Raid?
No but have a look on the Ralley Raid site they have it there.
Wow. These guy know what they are doing! I have a wr250r which is still superior! But the honda is ok
They just don't make them anymore.
I put around 14k miles on a WRR and loved it, but I enjoy the Honda a lot more. Has more torque and is a great little runner.
The suspension is poop, but for the difference in price you can get the top of the line Rally Raid setup sprung to your weight and have a superior bike.
@@marcochavane3124 Strongly agree
What is the SEAT HEIGHT with the Level 2 ?
I can't recall exactly. It was about the same height as a KTM690
clubby, make yourself useful! haha
Clubby the 'tight little butt cheeks' comment was just too cringy lol cant believe Dave didn't laugh
3:22 th-cam.com/video/lcfRIR8TBJM/w-d-xo.html
He's a wordsmith.
Mi spiace ma il transalp non è una moto di merda!!😉
I work for Öhlins Racing, with fork design, and I must say the professor knows his stuff, but also I amazed that Honda dropped the ball on the suspension this badly. Usually the benchmark for suspension setup (spring rate, comp and reb shim stacks, and oil level in the fork) is 80 kg rider weight...but it looks like they have it setup for hobbit, or a kid on this bike. Looks like ride testing was not part of the budget
Agree 100%. Stock it is a pogo stick on wheels. How Honda could screw up the suspension this bad is unbelievable. I only weighed in at 68kg and the bike constantly bottoms out. Zero dampened and zero compression. My wife’s scooter has better suspension.
I mean it really is junk, does Ohlins make a rear shock for a 2023 Rally?
@@beer3029Great question!
And we put up with manufacturers selling bikes with inadequate suspension. Not hard to make a bike with multi adjustments but no, ran crap down the throats of punters and make them spend more. Disgusting.
That's one way of looking at it.
Itchy boots fan here .. Crf rally 300 is one sexy bike. Wish it was available in India, Only Africa twin available here. Why Honda ? Why ?
ha ha
Noraly rules, 🇳🇱 NL.
Can I just say this is a top notch video! Thank you for taking the time to make it. Regarding the Suspension of the CRF when I test rode one a couple of years ago the sag really put me off. I weigh 88kg and the bike felt unbalanced when I rode it. Thank you Rally Raid, I will look into this bike again.
Glad you liked it!
Thanks for another great video gents! For those on a budget like me, YSS does a great budget friendly rear shock and front spring replacement for around $900. You can choose your weight and install is really easy.
The downside is that the rear is only preload adjustable and the front is non-adjustable. The upside, is the bike feels great and I spent around $1500 more to do the rest of the mods (not including luggage, which turned out to be more expensive than the rest of the work to the bike!)
It's a balance
@@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV I couldn't agree more and I have no doubt whatsoever that the Rally Raid kit is by far the better solution. Unfortunately, I couldn't afford it nor justify it for the type of riding I do.
Does YSS offer level 1 and level 2?
@@airadaimagery692 Check their prices they are almost the same as RR now. I'm going with RR
@@reg26 I'd go RR too.
Thanks Dave, great video and insights to help us decide on upgrades. Can’t wait for the next edition of you putting Rooster through the paces. Cheers 👍🏻
Coming soon!
Nugget has asked me to go on a little ride. I'm sure that will test it out.
i love everything about this bike but its way under powered it should of gotten 40 odd hp not 20 somthing wich is just sad
if it had the 450cc engine it would be perfect
Might as well go detuned 500-600cc long stroke for more torque if we're asking. I love my 450L but would prefer that it be stroked for more displacement and have a heavier flywheel. First manufacturer that makes a 135kg 40hp adventurized dual sport is going to have T7 success.
Agree but it's not happening
Ok I'm here. You can start now
Great video, well done to Rally Raid for a great solution. I went with the k-tech as they do a spring only solution for the front, (as well as rear shocks). I don't think it's anywhere as near as good as the Rally Raid solution, I'm no expert! I don't ride the hard stuff so saved some dosh and the handling and feel is much better.
The little clip comes out easy enough without drilling holes if you compress the shock then push the washer down at the same time as prising the circlip out with a skinny flat head screwdriver.
Looking forward to more testing and farkling of the Little Red Rooster!
Thanks Steve
That's quite a bit of money for the suspension upgrade. I had my 250 Rally done at MotoSR in Taupo, NZ for about AUD 1300. They know how to reuse the stock shock and fit an upgraded spring (custom made for any weight) and upgraded valving, so I'm not sure why the Aussies can't figure it out? The front end also got an extra spring (same as the RaceTech upgrade in the US) and new valving. Excellent -- dive under braking is vastly reduced. Didn't change the side stand -- the upgrade just improved things with the original stand as before the bike sat so vertical on flat ground that it felt in danger of a stiff breeze blowing it over. Now I can get on or off the bike with the stand down (not that I ever really do). Before, any attempt to mount the bike with the stand down resulted in so much sag that the bike would tip over to the right.
This channel is sponsored by Rally Raid, all of their bikes mount their suspension no matter what are the other options.
@@sergia6513 Понял. As long as they don't delete comments suggesting alternatives such as YSS or K-Tech or whatever it's all good. Again NZ readers contact MotoSR. An Aus youtuber (Shonky Productions) has a CRF300 Rally with similar original shock upgrade done by Pro-Moto in NSW (may have been K-Tech components, as Pro-Moto are on their dealer list and they offer both shock+spring and spring-only upgrades). Springs are $200-$250 vs shocks $1000+, so well worth checking out.
There is no secret to that. It's at the beginning of every video we make. But Sergi A you are wrong, we compared a number of suspension options with the Yamaha T7.
Hard to imagine what Honda was thinking with the stock spring rates and shock valving. It would have cost exactly 0 dollars to put somewhat appropriate spring rates and valves in it.
They were thinking of the south east asian market.
I’ve been combing the internet for shock/bike porn for years and now I’ve finally scratched that itch 🤣! Can’t tell you how many times my wife has caught me sexting dealerships for info on new bikes. My latest fetish has been searching for a 300 Rally but it’s still a unicorn here in the US. Thanks Dave for your entertaining and informative vids. Much appreciated. Subscribed.
They don't hit Australia until April!
I've been dead-set on buying a CRF300L. This series will only serve to hasten that purchasing schedule. Gee, thanks!
Pleasure
I don't know if they know it but "Oingo boingo" is a Jojo reference.
I have no idea what you are talking about.
Is it okay to only change the springs and re-valve the shocks? Or shocks must also be changed completely
There are a number of options. Have a talk to your suspension specialist.
Riding a Honda XR150L now in the Philippines and strongly looking at buying the 300 Rally for here and one in the states. I like riding dirt roads in the states and here in the Philippines.
a good bike
Hi Dave
Nice informative info for suspion set up.
Just wondered how Nugget is doing.
I miss the mischief.
Guy
We've just been in different orbits lately.
Any chance you know what the seat height comes down to with the 210 suspension, lowering link and the 19/17 wheel set?
Not ssure Selina, you should reach out to Rally Raid Products. I know that John built one and his wife Liz loved it.
No oingy boingy no not this time fell off me chair laughing 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Hey mate are they still selling the husqvarna enduro L R over the coz I'm after one and can't get them in blighty mate ,( Britain) 👍
Nope
I hate this channel. I hate you blokes too.
You strong armed me into buying that pricey Rally Raid suspension. Now my wife is making me sleep outside and kids keep saying their hungry. Shame on you both!
But it works really well :)
@@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV can't wait. It's honestly the most money I've ever spent on suspension for a vehicle and I've built a few Land Cruisers and GXs (fancy Prados) for Overlanding, but it's going to make the bike much safer in the rough stuff. At 260lbs its going to make a vast difference.
Thank you for all your work and look forward to more of your adventures.
Cheers 🍻
Very helpful, thanks... I am planning a purchase of this bike, and had heard the suspension needed an upgrade so this was very helpful. I am also interested in adding crash bars to bike to pretect in event of a fall, can you recommend any?
I don't think it needs crash bars. I've dropped it from a decent height onto rocks. It survived OK.
Thanks for the reply and info :)
@@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV
My TTR600 Belgarda had full factory adjustable ohlins shock and full adjust paioli fork all for a princely new sum of $8 grand Aussie on road 😅
Rally Raid never has any of their kits available for order. Frustrating company to give patronage.
That is a load of crap. Like every other company in thw world, covid disrupted supply chains. Havuou you tried to buy a Honda crf300L lately? Not available until April in Australia.
@@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV Hardly a load of crap. I found out long before COVID that the Rally Raid stuff is generally unobtainium here in the states. If you think otherwise, then I call your load of crap and attribute it to your crappy misinformed channel.
Some great info in this one on a great little machine. One thing not touched on is the fuel economy. I had the 250 Rally and it was cheap as chips to run on my adventures up into the high country an beyond. With todays insane fuel prices it's definitely something to think about.
I agree, it's nice going to the pump and filling up for less than $15 (on the L model). Shonky Productions is currently running the Simpson Desert on his 300 Rally and getting 4L/100km (~1.05 gallons/~62.1 miles) over dunes in the soft sand on a 200-210kg fully loaded up bike. Talk about great economy!
Fitting of suspension hmm what’s that got to do with fuel economy. We did a test in the bike a year ago
That turn at around 0:50 is executed perfectly!
This is a question I've been trying to answer myself, but the 300L is nowhere to be seen in Norway. Is the 690/701 really worth twice the money of the CRF300L rally?
I own both a 690 and 701...yes, but it's not twice the money, it's a third more more
17" 19" wheels are great on these, i run anakee wilds, on crf 250l.
Always going to be a better result. But for that cost should have got a better rear shock with comp.
Fitted a yss shock to my mt09. Same issue as the honda shock. No real rebound control. spring to light for most people. wallows and bounces around. New YSS shock it is planted and adjustable to what you want.
YSS rear is fine but the fork internals require more work for instalation.
HAHAHAHAHA THE OYING GO BOING GO GUYS HAHAHAHA Guys talking about suspension Do you recommend Krooze tune ???? they offer a 50mmm lowering kit...... I want to lower a 1100 Africa Twin .. I figured it would lower the AT to about the same as my older KLR 650 ........ That worked Fine for the type of riding I now do... Pavement and Packed dirt roads... Never much rougher than that.... These days OLD AGE dictates hahaha. Keep up the great content...
Never experienced it.
Didn't want to spend too much on my Rally, got the YSS rear shock and YSS front springs. Getting installed with some thicker fork oil in a few weeks. Total cost is $1100
What country do you live in?
honestly these mods you did would be enough for just about everyone. I raced weekends at my local track for years and all I ever did with my cr450r's, cr500s was stiffer springs, better oil and bleed off valves - roughly 5-600ish dollars per bike, probably would cost closer to $1k now, and my suspension worked great
@@Tmac327 the bikes you mentioned come stock with adjustable valving though do they not? The 300L series bikes are not adjustable aside from sag but wish it was that affordable of a fix.
2022 300L Great bike and with stock boingy boingy suspension and a KoubaLink, I can flat foot and for a 71 y/o with bad knees, that works fine........except the boing boing.
Forks all the way up to the handlebars. I do need it low enough to be comfortable and not kill myself. Enduro days are long gone.. 210 going to ok then???
And more fuel please. 2 gal just isn't enough, even at fantastic gas mileage. (IMS does sell a 2.5 gal tank)
Thanks
Over here🇳🇱 NL, Hyperpro offers a progressive spring replacement for €800,00. Promising to adjust it to your weight. Pedro Mota seems to like his conversion. Still it's a lot of money for an older Transalp. Any thoughts on that? If it really improves the handling, it might be worth it.
Sorry I don't know
Good stuff. I just wish there was some better distribution of RR products in the US. Rocky Mtn ATV needs some inventory. Are there any other distributors??
I don't know.
Saw some new gloves for it too. Metzler Karoo 4's. Be out about Aug, 1st Sept. Lot better than 3's. Love this bike. RTW capable more than many think. When I was a kis 60 yrs. back a 300 was a big bike. All relative. Pick it up 4 or 5 times aday, you'll figure it out. Nothing hardly as important to the right legs and muscles underneath. Control and support. Sure like Clive's work and your fellows presentation. It's a blast. From the Hill's of East KY. Stay safe. Shop porn, potential double header, drive deep and wallow out. Now for a Seat Concept seat cover, low model. Rear subframe takes a beating on hard core off road even without luggage on. Oxford heated grips. Tubeless wheels, yes 19/17. Many tires available all over. Major advancement for this machine. Waiting to receive mine. The CRF 300 is a very capable basis of a machine. Kinda like a girlfriend that needs cleaned up a bit and some attention to detail. Clean her up, put on a pretty dress and take her for a hell of a ride. Scottoiler for the chain. Home to Prudhoe Bay, Newfoundland to Iceland to North Cape Norway. Who needs a big bike for that. Small is easier to fish out of the creek. RTW.
A great little bike.
Ok. Is there an informational or instructional video on the lowering link? (Hoping i heard that right) wanting level one even though I'm 5'11". Hoping for 18, 21wheels. What size is the stock tires? Maybe like 1 sz wider both ends. Is the kickstand alloy, lightweight? Is this available in USA? Or only UK? Cheers.
Go to the Rally Raid Products UK site there may be something there.
Dave, what is your height and inseam? I was looking at you sitting on the bike with upgraded suspension. It looks way taller but did not seem uncomfortable even if only tip toes touched the ground.
178 cm. Don't know inseam. Very comfortable on that bike.
Hi Dave.I have the flu atm, and have been living vicariously binge watching your videos. I'm 65, a shortarse, and was away from bikes a long while while life happened. Got a little commuter/weekend bike a year or so ago, and I'm looking to get a more serious 'get out there' bike. Before I default to a BMW G310GS, what are your thoughts on a LOWERED CRF300L?
I'm SW of Sydney and would like to concentrate on tracks like Wombeyan Caves Rd, things like Newnes and less technical roads and trails.
Either will work for you.
i see this crf300 used by itchy boots and awesome
She rides it very slowly and carefully but always gets there.
@@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV She has very limited off-road riding experience. Dirt roads aren't REALLY what most experienced riders consider "off-road". So with her limited skills she HAS to be very careful. She's all alone riding thru areas I wouldn't go by myself. Grew up in WV and rode GNCC's before they were called GNCC. And I don't mean any of this as criticism. She's awesome! Some also don't realize her speedo is reading in kilometers. 45kilometers is only 28ish MPH.
@@gailtaylor1636 I noticed that. Her travels are amazing.
Norally also just upgraded her suspension once she reached Sandiago. Now she too is a better spring bike.
Only just found MADTV . Good rundown on the bike looking to see more on your 300.
@@michaelanderson3771 The shock that was installed was sprung waaay too soft. Ed, guy that came and rescued after she hurt her ankle, adjusted the sag to help get the bikes attitude more where it should be. But sag adjustment isn't a substitute for the correct spring. Rumor is she had the spring replaced while in Canada. The videos are likely a month or more behind her travels.
Hello from Lake Odessa Michigan. Pretty cool to see the route 66 sign in the background over there. I'm one left turn from being on it. Husky 901 rider here.
Very cool!
Very informative I’m a short rider I need this lowered bike I’m an older guy ,obviously I don’t do hard core
A great bike for you.
I should start saving, because I think when those bikes become available I will be buying one :)
It will be interesting when they come on line again
Brilliant. Highly informative. The question is now do I get level 1 or level 2.
How tall are you?
Thanks. Great stuff.
I'm 178 cm tall and I'm close to tip toes on the Level 2 kit.
Question does the 210mm REAR SHOCK make the rear end sit lower if you do the front fork kit?
I'm not sure please direct your question to Rally Raid Products UK. They will answer promptly.
On a 300cc 2 stroke I just did 4 days with the GL Mojave and Tillamook together. I did this to keep it a little more versatile than the coyote bag alone. About the same in storage.
Good point
Maybe the answer is the 250 mm kit for best suspension, and a low Seat Concepts complete seat, which is 1.25" lower than std seat... with this combo you would be pretty much bang on stock height with great travel to boot. The only negative is perhaps the seat to foot peg length will be more cramped.
Not sure. 250 mm makkes it a tall bike.
Does this modification actually raise the ground clearance of the 300 L because the bike is too low to the ground and I keep hitting rocks and stumps on my shifter pedals ect…
Yes it does. Please listen to the video and all the answers are there.
Great episode! Why the almost 5cm/2" taller 100 series rear tire though? Sticking with Pirelli the MT-21 has the 110 and 120/80r18 options that are more seat height and gearing friendly.
We like em Mike.
Thanks for the insight gents. I approve of the choice of your garage calendar in the background :)
Pretty sure you can buy springs for the forks from many other brands?
Good to know!
Cmon Honda ! Build a 450 Rally with longer service intervals and you’ll take over
We all know that but I suspect most engineering focus in all motorcycle companies is for electric engines.
You don't have to change oil every 600 miles. But they are not taking over at 291 pounds, in any case.
You guys give the best view of the suspension difference between stock and the new suspension
Thanks
You seem to like the properly suspended CRF quite a lot. Makes any sense to ask for a comparative comment against the 701 that you also liked a lot?
The 701, for me is another level, particularly now I have a wind shield.
@@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV i thought so…
Wonderful interview. I've heard alot about this suspension kit and to hear about it from John Mitchem himself is fantastic.
It is excellent.
waiting for your next video, I am interested if after some riding and testing of Rally Raid's level 2 set up your thoughts on the pros/cons of level 2 vs the shorter level 1: ie, after testing did you 'really' use/need the additional travel of the level 2 for the riding /terrain you would typically cover with this particular bike....I am in the process of picking between level 1 and 2 for my 'on-order' Rally and any additional insight is much appreciated, anyway thanks for the great content & keep'em coming
It's hard because I haven't experienced level 1. I'd listen closely to what John Mitchinson says during the my interview with him at the end of the video.
@@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV Thanks, I did watch your interview with John and his insight is on L1 option is part of what has me going back and forth between L1 vs L2. Also I am thinking of putting a center stand on my Rally and if so this would be a reason to go L2---ah the fun of modding motorcycles.....Cheers
Fascinating! Surprised Clive let Cubby anyway near the shop 🤣
Yeah me too :)
what about the link to the installation you mentioned?
Yes a bit frustrating. It's not up yet.
I'm a new rider from Canada and am wanting to get a dual sport. This seems to be a great bike, however, I'm 6'3" around 245lbs. If I do a suspension swap will it work for a guy of my size?
I don't know you'l have to test one.
@@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV sounds good, thanks
I am struggling to find the more detailed install video you guys are talking about. Any chance I could get a link ?
Love your work by the way.
I will check again. It was out, then got retracted. Look at the rear of this video again. Hopefully it was reposted.
@@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV found it on their website. Very informative.
Look way much better.
I'd cross the Simpson with the little red rooster🐓 mate!🤠👍
Yep a great bike for that.
“Clubby!”
I'm 5' 11'' and 130lb. How would a stock crf300 rally be for a light rider like me?
OK, but depending how hard you ride and what you pack you'll be looking at suspension
@@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV Thanks. I don't feel like I ride hard but I do find myself waiting on my riding buddy's when we ride together. So maybe I do and just don't realize it. I bought a KLX250 in 2006 and loved it but felt it was under powered. It was hard to get the front wheel to pop up over logs or pot hols if I was moving along very fast.
Hey mate they still selling the husky 701 enduro LR over there 👍 I'm after one and can't get one in blighty ( Britain )
no
I've seen a few very nice used ones here in Norway. It's not that far away to go get. Try finn dot no
Shock p0rn 🤣
Thanks for the video. Can I ask what the static seat height is with the new suspension?
Let me check
Your man there says that the RR level 1 reduced travel setup does not lower the bike but in theory it must be lowering it in its natural state with nobody sitting on it because RR want to sell you their 20mm shorter side stand for that setup to rectify the change in height.
Allan, sounds like a cooky conspiracy theory to me. No sorry it doesn't sound like one, it is one! Thy actually sell a longer stand you muppet and without it the bike nearly topples over.
Well, even though the shock is shorter, your sag will be much less due to the stiffer spring. I watched a video where the guy sat on the bike flat footed with stock set up. When he put the rally raid level one shock on, he was on his tip toes. Less sag= higher seat height.
it’s hard to justify spending 30% of the bike cost to get it performing correctly and is a very poor effort on the part of Honda. Plus there are none available. Surely many riders would be better off on a late model low klm DRZ costing $8000, which has good suspension, a lot more power, is indestructible and masses of parts available ie large fuel tanks etc. yes I can hear the wails re the drz gearing but you are $5000 better off.
KTM are just as bad. $16k on a bike tgat in no way can tube the harshness out of it for a 100kg rider.
There are no new DRs available either. You still have to do the suspension to get the best out of a DR
@@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV you are not kidding, the worst standard suspension of any dirt bike I’ve owned. Life threatening, over the handle bars stuff when punted hard.
@@MrEtnorb I didn't dare punt it hard. I was ghosting jumps to get the best out of it.
% of purchase price is a pretty useless benchmark to me, more focus should be total outlay of bike and add ons compared to its competition
Hi , guys thank you for a very informative video , got to be the best one out there .😉
Glad you enjoyed it
Jeez the bike stands up proud. Looks like it's complete now. I'm getting the level 2 from rallyraid this week or next.
Just a word of warning it is tall. As tall as my 701.
@@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV thanks. I'm actually glad to hear that. Super video. Looking forward to more.
If I'm correct, that Rally Raid stuff is branded TracTive suspension from Holland. Those folks are top flight suspension people. You pay for it, but it's great stuff.
Yes Robert. John has been collaborating with Tractive for many years.
@@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV I just found TracTive myself when I bought a 2014 KTM 1190 adv R. I could have bought the Touratech stuff, same stuff, but went to a TracTive dealer and save more than $600 USD. In the states, the dealers have finally been able to get that gear first hand. Still not cheap at $3400 US. Folks just don't know until they've had great matched suspension under them. Cheers from the US
@@robertmills794 So true Robert
Brilliant video from all involved (and you solved the rear subframe query).
Barkbusters may have a poor construction for the CRF300, eg ItchieBoots’ bike fell over twice (one very low speed drop, and the second time the bike was parked and was blown over by the wind). Both times resulted in a compromised throttle control and subsequent workshop visit (ok, the front brake lever was undamaged). You and Chubby never drop bikes so you don’t notice things like this…..just saying…..🕊
We drop em, although try to avoid it on test bikes because we have to pay for damage.
@@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV :-)
What make is the rally raid rear shock?
Joint project with Tractive Suspension
I was getting mid hard seeing the new suspension, 😆
Certainly works
I suspect you could save a few bucks on suspension and sag by dieting down to the healthy weight of an average Honda test rider. You might be joining those middle aged cycling boys with their tight fitting spandex and ultra light bikes.
Oh a fat shamer. Well done!
@@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV Only trying to level the field where us smaller riders are assumed to be beginners with special small people needs. You big fellas can stick to the big bikes with heated seats and leave some small bike stock for us small chaps who used to fit Japanese sports bikes perfectly.
@@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV Sorry forgot to mention I still appreciate your review.
@@ilovecds9606 Unless your 52 kilograms then at a minimum you'll need strong springs for an adventure
Excellent explanation for us clueless 👍
Glad it was helpful!
In the US they put a rear shock spring on itchy boots went from a white 85 to white 100
Not sure what they did.
@@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV I will send it
@@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV New springs for my CRF3OOL Rally Raid
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So there is a kit for short people, level 1?
Yes, and then shorter again with lowering links and even smaller wheels.
@@MotorcycleAdventureDirtbikeTV I don’t want to lower my Rally, I just want a little bit better suspension but still be able to touch the ground on both sides. As of now, I’m 5’7” with a 31” inseam and I’m comfortable with the height the way it is. Any higher and it would be too high. I did add the seat concepts low pro seat already...
Looking forward to the build
Just waiting on some stuff.
Nice Dave
Stay safe Cheers
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Thanks.
You're welcome
If you want to save the weight of a rear rack, I attached my giant loop coyote bag to my Rally by threading a couple of their pronghorn straps through the bag base (after removing the included hooked straps,) and looping the pronghorns around the tail of the bike. Lower leg straps stay standard. Worked well for me on a long off-road adventure. Perfect mixed use travel bike.
Thanks for that contribution.
I really like the smaller wheel possibility. I am setting up the bike for dirt road touring , not heavy offroad and shorter suspension travel and smaller wheels would be exactly what I want.
Good choice!