Me too coming from Nikon it was a clear winner. Likewise I have no brand loyalty to Sony. The new lens line up is now formidable, looking to see what 300 and 500mm are like that are in production. But really want the 400f2.8
Adrian you are one of four photographers that I follow here. Based on your recommendation I am now shooting more with prime lenses. I only have 2 at the moment, 135 GM and 24 GM. The 400 GM is hopefully coming soon. I shouldn't have purchased all my zooms, 24-105, 70-200, 100-400 and 200-600 with 1.4and 2X converters. I have the Sony A7IV and the A9ii. I mainly shoot family and sports. We were supposed to take a trip to Africa but the virus hit, so... Keep the videos coming, great stuff!!!!!
Hey Peter it's great to hear from you. Like you I have also had all those zooms before. I had the 24-105, the 70-200, and the 100-400. They are good and you do have some flexibility with the focal lengths but once you shoot primes, especially on the A7RIV, it's another thing altogether. I'm curious what you think about the 24 and the 135. I hear you about Africa. I was supposed to be there right now myself. Thanks for watching! I really appreciate your interest.
@@AdrianChoPhotography Sorry about not writing sooner. We live in Germany now (grew up in California), so we were sleeping when you wrote back. I love the 135GM, so clear and sharp. I haven't been using it a lot due to the Corona and the home schooling of our kids. We have a small forest across the street and I take the camera when me and dog go out. I am just amazed at how clear the focus and results are throughout the picture. I bought the lens specifically on your recommendation after I saw your Africa video. At the time I was looking for a "street lens/family lens" for pics, so I was also looking into the 85mm too. The 24mm I just received it yesterday (Thur), so my sample size is very small (out cats and kids). I got some great profile shots of the cats, I love the "buttery" bokeh! I too have to look in the viewfinder to see the detail (my up close vision sucks). So I follow a select few, yourself, Mark Galer, Mark Smith, Jared Polin and Kai W because they are funny. Finally, for sports, Patrick Murphy-Racey. I can't wait for the 400GM, but as my wife says, "you have to sell something to get something." I'll have to make-do with my telephotos for a month or two. Thanks agin for the response, Tschuss Pete
I'm an amateur, but I've been doing photography for a long time. I mainly shoot landscapes. Recently my travel kit consisted of the A7R3, 16-35 GM, 24-105 G, and 70-200 G. I also have the 100-400 GM and 200-600 G, but they usually stay home. But, I've decided to sell the 24-105 G and the 70-200 G and replace them with the 24 GM, 85 GM, and 135 GM.
I was in a similar situation to you in the past. I had the 16-35, 24-105, and the 70-200. I am still shooting a lot with the 24 GM and the 135 GM but currently don’t own an 85 although I did have the 85 f1.8 at one stage. I also now have the 20 G and am currently leaning more towards taking that out into the field than the 24 GM. I had looked at the Tamron 70-180 as an alternative to the 135 GM because it’s so much more flexible and has more reach but 135 GM is so damn good it’s very hard to leave it. In the 85 range I currently do have the Sony 90 Macro but it’s a bit too slow to focus for general wildlife although it is very sharp. I also have the Sigma 105 f1.4 which I love but it’s too big and heavy to take on many trips.
@@AdrianChoPhotography I would also like to have the 20mm, but it's hard to justify just now. I might go with the 85mm 1.8 instead of the 85 GM. I'm really looking forward to the 135 GM. I figure if 135mm isn't enough, I can shoot in crop mode to get out to about 200mm. The only up side of the pandemic is that I'm using the money I'd set aside for a trip for new photo gear.
Photo Trekr yes absolutely with crop mode and the 135. I use it at 200 quite often. The thing about the 135 GM Is once you’ve used it, especially with a higher resolution sensor like the A7RIII or A7RIV, you will compare everything else to it. It is that good. Just astounding detail, focusing speed, and beautiful bokeh. I think it is one of the best autofocus lenses on the market regardless of system. Good luck with your transition to all the primes. Lenses like the 24-105 and 70-200 are good but nothing compared to the primes you’re looking at. Another one that I love is the 55 ZA. I use it for filming all my recent videos on this channel including this one.
Bone Hunter it IS sharp but got god sake it’s worse than the 200-600 which I own and have to pass up on many shots for lowlight. I pretty much live in Topaz Denoise
Adrian Cho Photography it isn’t. Which also has me thinking of selling my A7Riii and getting an A9 so I might have better performance at 6400 iso OR just a smaller file running through denoise. My workflow is too slow. I can’t wait till winter so I have some better reflected lighting off the snow.
Hi Basem. It’s going to be interesting. I look forward to seeing what will happen. The increased competition in the pro mirrorless space will be a good thing.
Hey Adrian, after our recent interesting chat, I have since come across a rather revealing video by another TH-camr who also happens to be a wildlife pro. For what is worth, you may already know about this guy for all I know as he has won international wildlife photography awards. His name is Tin Man Lee and he posted a video sometime back in May of 2019 listing 6 reasons why he switched to Nikon after he had been a Canon shooter for 18 years. So, why am I talking about Nikon I hear you say? Well, as it turns out, the "secret sauce" of the Nikon if you will or the common denominator with Sony is that apparently Sony manufactures Nikon-designed sensors. To cut the story short, he went on one trip with his pro mates, I believe to Hawaii to shoot the lava which was when he noticed the superiority of the images taken by his friends who were shooting with Nikon as he was the only guy shooting with Canon. So, he asked one of his friends what was going on? And the guy simply replied, it is the Sony sensor. I will give you the link to this video below. But, after that, he sold all his Canon gear and loaded up on Nikon and if I am not wrong he is currently using the D850 and he has 4 of them. th-cam.com/video/UneR7GCEU2Q/w-d-xo.html So, that leads me to your video here. Can you shed some light about the Sony sensor? I nearly forgot to ask you what were you shooting before Sony? What is so great about the Sony sensor? Resolution, AF, both, etc? This also got me thinking about the R5, naturally people are drawn to topline features like the 8K video capability and so on. But, to me it is the sensor that matters which you kind of alluded to when you mentioned we don't even know what the resolution of the R5 sensor is in the context of stills which is what we both care about much more than video. I would be very interested to get you take on the Sony sensor.
Hey Alex, this is a great topic and something that I've had many discussions with people about including many Canon and Nikon shooters. To my knowledge, while there are/have been cases where Nikon, and even Canon (who usually make their own sensors) used Sony sensors (for example the Canon G7X III point and shoot apparently had a Sony sensor in it), it's more the case that the Nikon sensors are Nikon designs but manufactured by Sony. For example, this is the case with sensor in the D850 which is the IMX309AQJ sensor. I think the sensor is an important thing to consider but I personally think lenses are the bigger issue. Many photographers, especially those investing in long primes, are spending more on lenses than on camera bodies and they will tend to change/upgrade camera bodies more than lenses. Consider, for example, that a lens like the 400 or 600 GM is about four times the price of an A7RIV camera body. One of the things that is noteworthy about Sony's GM lenses is that most of them are very good investments and we can expect the E-mount to be around for some time and yet there are now a wealth of options to choose from, whereas Canon's new RF mount and Nikon's new Z mount are only just getting started. Sony has said that the GM lenses are apparently built with future 100 MP sensors in mind and that they spare no cost and simply try to make the lenses as good as possible. Getting back to sensors, one of the things to consider, even when you put the actual features of the sensors asides, is that Sony is now by far the dominant maker of camera sensors and this gives them a big edge. They are making more than half of all camera sensors and over 70% of all camera sensors in smartphones. So, for example, BSI technology is often attributed to Sony but OmniVision was manufacturing BSI sensors through TSMC a number of years before Sony and there's plenty of other cases of the technology before that. However Sony really made it mass-market. Not to overlook their ability to innovate but they have done an incredible job at developing, delivering to market en masse, incorporating feedback, and iterating. To get back to your question, I think there are many things that make the Sony sensors notable and not just one. BSI, stacked CMOS, and on-sensor phase-detect autofocus are some of the technologies but basically what you're talking about is high resolution (consider the A7RIV and also that Sony makes the sensors in the medium format cameras made by other companies), low noise (consider the A7SII), speed (A9), etc. I'll think about how this might be an interesting topic for a video! In the meantime, feel free to jump onto to the Discord server to chat more. All the best!
Your arguments have persuaded me, one of the ditherers over switching from Canon to Sony, to buy the R5! The 62mpx A7R4 is more than I need; has buffering and post slow speeds that concern me. Has noise when you push the ISO - frequently the case when shooting Kenyan wildlife in low light. 42mpx seems like the right direction - add this to great ergonomics and menu system the R5 is a winner IMHO. Just wait and see!
Hey Mike. Thanks for watching. I agree that the buffer with the large files on the A7RIV can be an issue. I've talked about it a lot in my other videos. The interesting thing is this would not be as much of an issue with CFexpress cards. I shoot a lot in low light, including in Africa, but it only works on the A7RIV with primes and I've always said that I think the A7RIV is best with primes. Good luck with your choice. I'll be interested to see how it turns out.
62mp is just ridiculous. Even for the professionals. It's a p[*ssing up the wall contest. Well done Sony, you won, but you invested huge amounts into R&R for a camera that will seel so few copies. Financial stupidity.
Doghouse Riley the good thing is that the market presents options for people because we don’t all have the same requirements. If you want extreme resolution then there’s an option there but it doesn’t come without a cost. 60 MP be ridiculous for some while while others love having that resolution for lots of reasons. It also depends a lot on what you’re doing. For me the 60 MP is a pain when I shoot portraits in the studio or if I’m trying to shoot a lot of action and that’s why I don’t use that camera for those situations. In other cases the resolution is fantastic to have. There are people that buy 100 MP cameras and find that resolution useful.
Doghouse Riley yet if canon came out with 60mp... you would sing a different tune. I mean, who really needed a 42mp sensor? Wasn’t the D810 was enough? Oh well. 50mp 5DSR was pissing up a wall too and now it’s pretty much the same resolution as the R5...
I started using Sony with the a7, and it was tough for a while, but now with the a7RIV & a9 and the 400/600 primes, I am very happy. Canon R5 ... no release date yet, incomplete specs, no price, no long primes, 8k video that most people won't be able to view ... much less edit. Hard to get very excited.
Need to wait just 10 days, then you will have all the infos you need. Having so expensive Sony gear, I don't think you are too interested in anything else than Sony. I would not be either, but I am cos' I don't go crazy for Sony.
Always appreciate you thoughtful comments and level-headed assessment of how these tools work in your photography...We have had an outbreak of wildlife photographers moving to Olympus (smallest sensor) and this week sales deals were announced that makes a switch super economical- 600mm reach and 2 other 2.8 lens with a free body...The move is somewhat surprising since Olympus has not moved beyond 20 megapixels size...Thoughts??
Hi Chris, thanks for watching. So it’s very interesting that you mention Olympus. I actually had the Olympus E-M1X and a whole bunch of their lenses including the 300 f4 and 40-150 f2.8 for almost a month. I had intended to only have the gear for about two weeks but Olympus sent everything to me right around the time the lockdown began and they kindly let me hang on to it for longer because of the lockdown. I created a whole video about it but I have been sitting on the video and think I need to reshoot something. I really do want to talk about it but it’s tough because I have very few shots I can show from my time with it because of the lockdown. Your comment has spurred me to try to get the video out about it. I’ll try to do that today or tomorrow.
@@AdrianChoPhotography Mark Buckler sold all his Canon gear and now is 100% Olympus and posting often about how great it is...His photos look almost as good...I can see some bokeh differences but many others have using Olympus gear have some significant image issues due to the small sensor and major cropping...As usual it is up to the photographer to maximize the skills and equipment...Look forward to your video and experience...
@@chrisalmerini3284 wow that is very interesting. I just watched my Olympus video and I'm going to shoot a new intro and closing for it and try to push it out today. It was definitely an interesting experience using their gear.
Chris, one of the many interesting things is that even at only 20 MP the pixel density is already even higher than the 60 MP full-frame sensor I use so the hit to image quality is substantial.
Your video is very interesting. You are very 'pro Sony' and that's what works for you. Time will tell how good the EOS R5 will be. There is no shortage of EF mount long glass to work with the R5 and I would say there will be plenty of RF mount long glass in the pipeline.
Fintan, thanks for watching. I'm very pro about Sony right now because it's the best thing for me now but we'll have to see how things develop I think the main problem for someone buying the R5 is how to get the reach if they don't already have Canon long glass. It's not clear what they should do if they want to move to the R5 when it comes out. Should they buy an EF long prime? Likely they will have to buy something like an EF 100-400 and wait a while. That's pretty much what I had to do with Sony until they brought out their first long prime. I'm personally very excited about the R5 but we'll just have to see.
Thanks Adrian, I have had the EOSR since it became available and have used it a lot with the EF 100-400 IS II and the EF 500 F4 IS II and the adapter works perfectly. I shoot sport and wildlife and the EOS R is very good for sport and wildlife, but not for birds in flight. I am really looking forward to what the EOS R5 will be capable of and I hope the 'hype' is justified and not just that, 'hype'. I really hope the R5 is great for birds in flight as well as sport action photography and it seems like July or whenever will never arrive. The build up to the launch of the R5 has been a little more than dramatic, but they (Canon) are getting away with it. Your video presentation is excellent.
Love to see Canon improve their tech and put competition at this subject. I don't mind what system would win this race, all i know and hope, this competition effect those brands reduce their products much cheaper and affordable. I'll go whatever brands that suits my budget. But at this time, i choose Sony.
First Point: "I niormally travel with 3 camera bodies and three lenses"..... Ok, so if you are a professional photograph that is an advantage. 99.99999999999% of your viewers aren't professional photographers. They might have a second body, a couple of lenses, a fraction of the equiptment that you carry. So a valid point that affects virtually no-one.
Great video Adrian keep up the great work! It would mean a lot if a channel of your size would consider checking out a smaller channel like my own! It would help me a lot! Keep making these great videos man! ~ Rylan
"Sony have a great range of lenses"........ Should read "Sony have a great range of very expensive lenses that are no better than offerings from other major companies but like their (now defunkt) VAIO laptops, are way over priced for what they offer".
Doghouse Riley well I guess it depends on what you’re looking at specifically. As I mentioned in response to your other comment, if you look at say the Canon and Sony 400 f2.8 and 600 f4, the prices are identical. In fact the Sony prices are $1 USD less. I’m not actually tied to any particular manufacturer and will happily use anything if I think it’s right for me.
@@AdrianChoPhotography But you have picked one of the most expensive lenses, that virtually no-one on the planet will actually own. Other glass, well, I think you get my point
The problem with Sony, that Sony has always had is that they design products that are very good but economical failures. Sony TVs, very good - dead as a Dodo. Sony VAIO, very good - sold to an asset stripper because they failed to make money. And now very capable cameras and lenses but way over-priced. Just like their TVs, just like their laptops. people bought them at first because they were very good, but only a small percentage of people were willing to pay that high a premium. It is a business model that has failed numerous times and still they flog the dead horse.
Thanks for watching and sharing your thoughts. The fact that I use three bodies is mostly because I use primes and I don’t want to be changing lenses on bodies in the field. It’s a choice that has nothing to do with the system. Regarding the prices, I guess we’ll see what happens and anything is possible. One of the possibilities with Sony is that they are so big and have so many other businesses that they could decide the camera market just isn’t worth it. I agree with you generally about the prices but then again when I look at the EOS R5 it is more expensive than the A7RIV and Canon’s 400 f2.8 is priced at the same price as Sony’s 400 f2.8 so it depends exactly what you are looking at.
@@AdrianChoPhotography Hi Adrian. I think you missed the point. Imagine you decide that you are going to suddenly enter the big camera world. So you build a camera that is pretty good, but with all the new set up costs, you have to set a pretty high price, and although it gets rave reviews, you don't really ship that many units. You then build some glass for your camera. But again, the costs drive the price up. So that your glass is as good as the market leader but...... his glass has been around since the ark, it's been pretty much the best for 20 years, and although yours is as good, it's got your brand on, not theirs. And because of your costs, you cannot persuade people by under cutting them. I have to admit I have little to no interest in video, I get that a lot of people want to be stars for a short while and it beats a proper job but I like photography, not videography. So the R5 isn't really of interest to me. For the porfessionals who want all those megapixels and are willing to pay for it, great. The R6, well that is interesting. Canon just announced, they are backed up on orders already! They have announced delays in delivery. The Canon machine rolls on
Doghouse Riley I appreciate your explanation. I am just a simple wildlife photographer and I made the video purely to explain why I use the gear I do and because someone asked me if I would explain it. It’s not because I have particular allegiance to any company over another. Even though I spent a few decades working in tech industry management my view is that I can’t possibly know the details of why companies make the decisions they do regarding product strategy, pricing, etc. and although I do enjoy the occasional armchair business analysis it has little to do with taking photos. For the people who are in love with a particular brand or company, all the power to them and to the company that has gained their loyalty or admiration. Mostly what I care about is that photographers have gear that can help them do their best work and that doesn’t get in their way or hold them back or frustrate them.
Me too coming from Nikon it was a clear winner. Likewise I have no brand loyalty to Sony. The new lens line up is now formidable, looking to see what 300 and 500mm are like that are in production. But really want the 400f2.8
More choice with GM long primes would be great!
Camilla & I I sure would like a 300 or 500. Usually in my price range with those lengths
Thank you so much for this wonderful video.👍🏻
Btw..how do you rate Fuji xt4 as against a7R4..? On its overall usability/practicality...
Adrian you are one of four photographers that I follow here. Based on your recommendation I am now shooting more with prime lenses. I only have 2 at the moment, 135 GM and 24 GM. The 400 GM is hopefully coming soon. I shouldn't have purchased all my zooms, 24-105, 70-200, 100-400 and 200-600 with 1.4and 2X converters. I have the Sony A7IV and the A9ii. I mainly shoot family and sports. We were supposed to take a trip to Africa but the virus hit, so... Keep the videos coming, great stuff!!!!!
Hey Peter it's great to hear from you. Like you I have also had all those zooms before. I had the 24-105, the 70-200, and the 100-400. They are good and you do have some flexibility with the focal lengths but once you shoot primes, especially on the A7RIV, it's another thing altogether. I'm curious what you think about the 24 and the 135. I hear you about Africa. I was supposed to be there right now myself. Thanks for watching! I really appreciate your interest.
@@AdrianChoPhotography Sorry about not writing sooner. We live in Germany now (grew up in California), so we were sleeping when you wrote back. I love the 135GM, so clear and sharp. I haven't been using it a lot due to the Corona and the home schooling of our kids. We have a small forest across the street and I take the camera when me and dog go out. I am just amazed at how clear the focus and results are throughout the picture. I bought the lens specifically on your recommendation after I saw your Africa video. At the time I was looking for a "street lens/family lens" for pics, so I was also looking into the 85mm too. The 24mm I just received it yesterday (Thur), so my sample size is very small (out cats and kids). I got some great profile shots of the cats, I love the "buttery" bokeh! I too have to look in the viewfinder to see the detail (my up close vision sucks). So I follow a select few, yourself, Mark Galer, Mark Smith, Jared Polin and Kai W because they are funny. Finally, for sports, Patrick Murphy-Racey. I can't wait for the 400GM, but as my wife says, "you have to sell something to get something." I'll have to make-do with my telephotos for a month or two. Thanks agin for the response, Tschuss Pete
Thank you very much Adrian for your video ! 👍🏻😀
I'm an amateur, but I've been doing photography for a long time. I mainly shoot landscapes. Recently my travel kit consisted of the A7R3, 16-35 GM, 24-105 G, and 70-200 G. I also have the 100-400 GM and 200-600 G, but they usually stay home. But, I've decided to sell the 24-105 G and the 70-200 G and replace them with the 24 GM, 85 GM, and 135 GM.
I was in a similar situation to you in the past. I had the 16-35, 24-105, and the 70-200. I am still shooting a lot with the 24 GM and the 135 GM but currently don’t own an 85 although I did have the 85 f1.8 at one stage. I also now have the 20 G and am currently leaning more towards taking that out into the field than the 24 GM. I had looked at the Tamron 70-180 as an alternative to the 135 GM because it’s so much more flexible and has more reach but 135 GM is so damn good it’s very hard to leave it. In the 85 range I currently do have the Sony 90 Macro but it’s a bit too slow to focus for general wildlife although it is very sharp. I also have the Sigma 105 f1.4 which I love but it’s too big and heavy to take on many trips.
@@AdrianChoPhotography I would also like to have the 20mm, but it's hard to justify just now. I might go with the 85mm 1.8 instead of the 85 GM. I'm really looking forward to the 135 GM. I figure if 135mm isn't enough, I can shoot in crop mode to get out to about 200mm. The only up side of the pandemic is that I'm using the money I'd set aside for a trip for new photo gear.
Photo Trekr yes absolutely with crop mode and the 135. I use it at 200 quite often. The thing about the 135 GM Is once you’ve used it, especially with a higher resolution sensor like the A7RIII or A7RIV, you will compare everything else to it. It is that good. Just astounding detail, focusing speed, and beautiful bokeh. I think it is one of the best autofocus lenses on the market regardless of system. Good luck with your transition to all the primes. Lenses like the 24-105 and 70-200 are good but nothing compared to the primes you’re looking at. Another one that I love is the 55 ZA. I use it for filming all my recent videos on this channel including this one.
Another very informative video. I always enjoy your simple setup amd presentation with very relevant info. 😊
In 2020 Sony has the most exciting wild life lenses for MILCs. The R5 is exciting, but for years to come you can only use it with EF lenses.
seen that new 100-500 coming out? very sharp zoom lens
@@xhunter628x I do not believe in long zoom ranges with computational (in camera) lens flaw correction.
Bone Hunter it IS sharp but got god sake it’s worse than the 200-600 which I own and have to pass up on many shots for lowlight. I pretty much live in Topaz Denoise
Jesse H living in Topaz Denoise doesn’t sound like a fun :(
Adrian Cho Photography it isn’t. Which also has me thinking of selling my A7Riii and getting an A9 so I might have better performance at 6400 iso OR just a smaller file running through denoise. My workflow is too slow. I can’t wait till winter so I have some better reflected lighting off the snow.
Adrian I love my a7riv and a9II and I am also keeping an eye on R5 and see if its AF will rise to spec sheet hype
Hi Basem. It’s going to be interesting. I look forward to seeing what will happen. The increased competition in the pro mirrorless space will be a good thing.
Hey Adrian, after our recent interesting chat, I have since come across a rather revealing video by another TH-camr who also happens to be a wildlife pro. For what is worth, you may already know about this guy for all I know as he has won international wildlife photography awards. His name is Tin Man Lee and he posted a video sometime back in May of 2019 listing 6 reasons why he switched to Nikon after he had been a Canon shooter for 18 years. So, why am I talking about Nikon I hear you say? Well, as it turns out, the "secret sauce" of the Nikon if you will or the common denominator with Sony is that apparently Sony manufactures Nikon-designed sensors. To cut the story short, he went on one trip with his pro mates, I believe to Hawaii to shoot the lava which was when he noticed the superiority of the images taken by his friends who were shooting with Nikon as he was the only guy shooting with Canon. So, he asked one of his friends what was going on? And the guy simply replied, it is the Sony sensor. I will give you the link to this video below. But, after that, he sold all his Canon gear and loaded up on Nikon and if I am not wrong he is currently using the D850 and he has 4 of them. th-cam.com/video/UneR7GCEU2Q/w-d-xo.html
So, that leads me to your video here. Can you shed some light about the Sony sensor? I nearly forgot to ask you what were you shooting before Sony? What is so great about the Sony sensor? Resolution, AF, both, etc? This also got me thinking about the R5, naturally people are drawn to topline features like the 8K video capability and so on. But, to me it is the sensor that matters which you kind of alluded to when you mentioned we don't even know what the resolution of the R5 sensor is in the context of stills which is what we both care about much more than video. I would be very interested to get you take on the Sony sensor.
Hey Alex, this is a great topic and something that I've had many discussions with people about including many Canon and Nikon shooters. To my knowledge, while there are/have been cases where Nikon, and even Canon (who usually make their own sensors) used Sony sensors (for example the Canon G7X III point and shoot apparently had a Sony sensor in it), it's more the case that the Nikon sensors are Nikon designs but manufactured by Sony. For example, this is the case with sensor in the D850 which is the IMX309AQJ sensor.
I think the sensor is an important thing to consider but I personally think lenses are the bigger issue. Many photographers, especially those investing in long primes, are spending more on lenses than on camera bodies and they will tend to change/upgrade camera bodies more than lenses. Consider, for example, that a lens like the 400 or 600 GM is about four times the price of an A7RIV camera body. One of the things that is noteworthy about Sony's GM lenses is that most of them are very good investments and we can expect the E-mount to be around for some time and yet there are now a wealth of options to choose from, whereas Canon's new RF mount and Nikon's new Z mount are only just getting started. Sony has said that the GM lenses are apparently built with future 100 MP sensors in mind and that they spare no cost and simply try to make the lenses as good as possible.
Getting back to sensors, one of the things to consider, even when you put the actual features of the sensors asides, is that Sony is now by far the dominant maker of camera sensors and this gives them a big edge. They are making more than half of all camera sensors and over 70% of all camera sensors in smartphones. So, for example, BSI technology is often attributed to Sony but OmniVision was manufacturing BSI sensors through TSMC a number of years before Sony and there's plenty of other cases of the technology before that. However Sony really made it mass-market. Not to overlook their ability to innovate but they have done an incredible job at developing, delivering to market en masse, incorporating feedback, and iterating.
To get back to your question, I think there are many things that make the Sony sensors notable and not just one. BSI, stacked CMOS, and on-sensor phase-detect autofocus are some of the technologies but basically what you're talking about is high resolution (consider the A7RIV and also that Sony makes the sensors in the medium format cameras made by other companies), low noise (consider the A7SII), speed (A9), etc.
I'll think about how this might be an interesting topic for a video! In the meantime, feel free to jump onto to the Discord server to chat more. All the best!
That 400 GM is humongous. !
Your arguments have persuaded me, one of the ditherers over switching from Canon to Sony, to buy the R5! The 62mpx A7R4 is more than I need; has buffering and post slow speeds that concern me. Has noise when you push the ISO - frequently the case when shooting Kenyan wildlife in low light. 42mpx seems like the right direction - add this to great ergonomics and menu system the R5 is a winner IMHO. Just wait and see!
Hey Mike. Thanks for watching. I agree that the buffer with the large files on the A7RIV can be an issue. I've talked about it a lot in my other videos. The interesting thing is this would not be as much of an issue with CFexpress cards. I shoot a lot in low light, including in Africa, but it only works on the A7RIV with primes and I've always said that I think the A7RIV is best with primes. Good luck with your choice. I'll be interested to see how it turns out.
62mp is just ridiculous. Even for the professionals. It's a p[*ssing up the wall contest. Well done Sony, you won, but you invested huge amounts into R&R for a camera that will seel so few copies. Financial stupidity.
Doghouse Riley the good thing is that the market presents options for people because we don’t all have the same requirements. If you want extreme resolution then there’s an option there but it doesn’t come without a cost. 60 MP be ridiculous for some while while others love having that resolution for lots of reasons. It also depends a lot on what you’re doing. For me the 60 MP is a pain when I shoot portraits in the studio or if I’m trying to shoot a lot of action and that’s why I don’t use that camera for those situations. In other cases the resolution is fantastic to have. There are people that buy 100 MP cameras and find that resolution useful.
Doghouse Riley yet if canon came out with 60mp... you would sing a different tune. I mean, who really needed a 42mp sensor? Wasn’t the D810 was enough? Oh well.
50mp 5DSR was pissing up a wall too and now it’s pretty much the same resolution as the R5...
I started using Sony with the a7, and it was tough for a while, but now with the a7RIV & a9 and the 400/600 primes, I am very happy. Canon R5 ... no release date yet, incomplete specs, no price, no long primes, 8k video that most people won't be able to view ... much less edit. Hard to get very excited.
Need to wait just 10 days, then you will have all the infos you need. Having so expensive Sony gear, I don't think you are too interested in anything else than Sony. I would not be either, but I am cos' I don't go crazy for Sony.
Always appreciate you thoughtful comments and level-headed assessment of how these tools work in your photography...We have had an outbreak of wildlife photographers moving to Olympus (smallest sensor) and this week sales deals were announced that makes a switch super economical- 600mm reach and 2 other 2.8 lens with a free body...The move is somewhat surprising since Olympus has not moved beyond 20 megapixels size...Thoughts??
Hi Chris, thanks for watching. So it’s very interesting that you mention Olympus. I actually had the Olympus E-M1X and a whole bunch of their lenses including the 300 f4 and 40-150 f2.8 for almost a month. I had intended to only have the gear for about two weeks but Olympus sent everything to me right around the time the lockdown began and they kindly let me hang on to it for longer because of the lockdown. I created a whole video about it but I have been sitting on the video and think I need to reshoot something. I really do want to talk about it but it’s tough because I have very few shots I can show from my time with it because of the lockdown. Your comment has spurred me to try to get the video out about it. I’ll try to do that today or tomorrow.
@@AdrianChoPhotography Mark Buckler sold all his Canon gear and now is 100% Olympus and posting often about how great it is...His photos look almost as good...I can see some bokeh differences but many others have using Olympus gear have some significant image issues due to the small sensor and major cropping...As usual it is up to the photographer to maximize the skills and equipment...Look forward to your video and experience...
@@chrisalmerini3284 wow that is very interesting. I just watched my Olympus video and I'm going to shoot a new intro and closing for it and try to push it out today. It was definitely an interesting experience using their gear.
Chris, one of the many interesting things is that even at only 20 MP the pixel density is already even higher than the 60 MP full-frame sensor I use so the hit to image quality is substantial.
Your video is very interesting. You are very 'pro Sony' and that's what works for you. Time will tell how good the EOS R5 will be. There is no shortage of EF mount long glass to work with the R5 and I would say there will be plenty of RF mount long glass in the pipeline.
Fintan, thanks for watching. I'm very pro about Sony right now because it's the best thing for me now but we'll have to see how things develop I think the main problem for someone buying the R5 is how to get the reach if they don't already have Canon long glass. It's not clear what they should do if they want to move to the R5 when it comes out. Should they buy an EF long prime? Likely they will have to buy something like an EF 100-400 and wait a while. That's pretty much what I had to do with Sony until they brought out their first long prime. I'm personally very excited about the R5 but we'll just have to see.
Thanks Adrian, I have had the EOSR since it became available and have used it a lot with the EF 100-400 IS II and the EF 500 F4 IS II and the adapter works perfectly. I shoot sport and wildlife and the EOS R is very good for sport and wildlife, but not for birds in flight. I am really looking forward to what the EOS R5 will be capable of and I hope the 'hype' is justified and not just that, 'hype'. I really hope the R5 is great for birds in flight as well as sport action photography and it seems like July or whenever will never arrive. The build up to the launch of the R5 has been a little more than dramatic, but they (Canon) are getting away with it. Your video presentation is excellent.
Love to see Canon improve their tech and put competition at this subject. I don't mind what system would win this race, all i know and hope, this competition effect those brands reduce their products much cheaper and affordable.
I'll go whatever brands that suits my budget. But at this time, i choose Sony.
Jara, I agree the competition can only be a good thing.
First Point: "I niormally travel with 3 camera bodies and three lenses"..... Ok, so if you are a professional photograph that is an advantage. 99.99999999999% of your viewers aren't professional photographers. They might have a second body, a couple of lenses, a fraction of the equiptment that you carry. So a valid point that affects virtually no-one.
Great video Adrian keep up the great work! It would mean a lot if a channel of your size would consider checking out a smaller channel like my own! It would help me a lot! Keep making these great videos man! ~ Rylan
Hey Rylan, thanks for watching. I do occasionally drop in on your channel and check out your videos. Keep up the good work!
Adrian Cho Photography Thanks Adrian!!
"Sony have a great range of lenses"........ Should read "Sony have a great range of very expensive lenses that are no better than offerings from other major companies but like their (now defunkt) VAIO laptops, are way over priced for what they offer".
Doghouse Riley well I guess it depends on what you’re looking at specifically. As I mentioned in response to your other comment, if you look at say the Canon and Sony 400 f2.8 and 600 f4, the prices are identical. In fact the Sony prices are $1 USD less. I’m not actually tied to any particular manufacturer and will happily use anything if I think it’s right for me.
@@AdrianChoPhotography But you have picked one of the most expensive lenses, that virtually no-one on the planet will actually own. Other glass, well, I think you get my point
The problem with Sony, that Sony has always had is that they design products that are very good but economical failures. Sony TVs, very good - dead as a Dodo. Sony VAIO, very good - sold to an asset stripper because they failed to make money. And now very capable cameras and lenses but way over-priced. Just like their TVs, just like their laptops. people bought them at first because they were very good, but only a small percentage of people were willing to pay that high a premium. It is a business model that has failed numerous times and still they flog the dead horse.
Thanks for watching and sharing your thoughts. The fact that I use three bodies is mostly because I use primes and I don’t want to be changing lenses on bodies in the field. It’s a choice that has nothing to do with the system. Regarding the prices, I guess we’ll see what happens and anything is possible. One of the possibilities with Sony is that they are so big and have so many other businesses that they could decide the camera market just isn’t worth it. I agree with you generally about the prices but then again when I look at the EOS R5 it is more expensive than the A7RIV and Canon’s 400 f2.8 is priced at the same price as Sony’s 400 f2.8 so it depends exactly what you are looking at.
@@AdrianChoPhotography Hi Adrian. I think you missed the point. Imagine you decide that you are going to suddenly enter the big camera world. So you build a camera that is pretty good, but with all the new set up costs, you have to set a pretty high price, and although it gets rave reviews, you don't really ship that many units. You then build some glass for your camera. But again, the costs drive the price up. So that your glass is as good as the market leader but...... his glass has been around since the ark, it's been pretty much the best for 20 years, and although yours is as good, it's got your brand on, not theirs. And because of your costs, you cannot persuade people by under cutting them.
I have to admit I have little to no interest in video, I get that a lot of people want to be stars for a short while and it beats a proper job but I like photography, not videography. So the R5 isn't really of interest to me. For the porfessionals who want all those megapixels and are willing to pay for it, great. The R6, well that is interesting. Canon just announced, they are backed up on orders already! They have announced delays in delivery. The Canon machine rolls on
Doghouse Riley I appreciate your explanation. I am just a simple wildlife photographer and I made the video purely to explain why I use the gear I do and because someone asked me if I would explain it. It’s not because I have particular allegiance to any company over another. Even though I spent a few decades working in tech industry management my view is that I can’t possibly know the details of why companies make the decisions they do regarding product strategy, pricing, etc. and although I do enjoy the occasional armchair business analysis it has little to do with taking photos. For the people who are in love with a particular brand or company, all the power to them and to the company that has gained their loyalty or admiration. Mostly what I care about is that photographers have gear that can help them do their best work and that doesn’t get in their way or hold them back or frustrate them.