I know my comment might sound silly, and I don't have anywhere near the level of experience of most people who play the game. I just happen to be a right-handed pitcher who batted lefty in high school. Throwing from one side and and swinging from the other side is actually quite complementary in stretching out the body. I'm not saying this as a formula, but I say this from my own very limited personal experience. Recovery isn't as tough as many would suggest. Could it be a coincidence that Ichiro was also a righty who bats lefty? He could throw a laser from right field and slash the ball ridiculously consistent.
He will most definitely be in the conversation if he keeps this up. I wish him all the best luck and to stay as healthy as he can be so everyone can enjoy this level of play for years to come.
Best player ever? I don't think so. I mean.. don't forget about Babe Ruth, Willie Mays, Ted Williams, Hank Aaron, Ty Cobb, Roger Clemens, Micky Mantle, Lou Gehrig, just off the top of my head Sure, this dude pitches ok and hits well, but is it sustainable for his entire career? He's only been in the league for 5-ish years now, say another 10 or so, average MLB career, I just don't think he can sustain. Who knows. I'll come back in 10 years if I'm alive and be like ok you were right.
@@DustinPlatt You have to admit if he keeps doing what he has been (obviously age decline will happen eventually), he's going to be in the conversation. Is he by far the best pitcher in the league? No. But he's still very very good. Probably hovering around top 15ish in the league for starting pitchers. And he's definitely one of the best hitters in the league. So you take someone who is one of the best hitters, steals bases, and is one of the better players in the most important position? That's someone who will be in the conversation of the best player ever. It'd be like a hockey player being one of the better goalies, and being one of the highest scorers in the league. It's something that is unbelievable.
@xilence531 Everyone you mentioned is no doubt a great, with outstanding stats over long careers as SOLO position players. Shohei doesn't need their length of time to be an all time great, since he's already got amazing stats as a TWO WAY PLAYER that he alone stands on top of and shares with no one else. So, he may not end his career matching or surpassing those solo position greats, but his stats will be impressive and close enough with other pitching and hitting greats, to be considered a baseball all timer.
I know Ohtani has inspired a lot of people to try and be a two-way player. But I don't think they realize just how much work they will need to do in order to play both at a top level like Ohtani. Shohei is completely obsessed with the game of baseball. That's what allows him to keep pushing himself and keep doing the Monday things that allow him to be so great. That's the reason why I don't see how anyone will be able to do what he does any time soon. Even babe ruth stopped after a year and a half because it was too hard. Many will try and many will ultimately quit.
Why do do many people not appreciate what Ohtani does? 1. He makes it look easy. 2. Only professional ball players know what it takes to be at that level. Normal people haven't a clue.
Ichiro had the same obsession - all baseball all the time. We may not see another Ohtani for the same reason we may not see another Japanese hitter like Ichiro.
And not to mention, the best! I mean, players like Babe Ruth stopped pitching a season or two in because it was too much on the body to do both. Ohtani is a freak of nature
Top 5 pitcher and top 5 hitter in the MLB, former major leaguers can't believe it, yet he wasn't good enough to win the MVP last season because some guy in New York hit a lot of home runs.
On top of all that, Ohtani is humble and... NICE. That has to count for SOMETHING. The way he's out there playing the way he is and still has a level head on those shoulders, that's the kind of baseball I want my kids to watch and emulate.
Yes, he's humble and well-mannered and so nice, as well as playful and joyous as he's in the game. But he's also confident and forceful, he carries himself with a certain swagger and grace. There's just something unique in his presence.
He's more than an MVP, this dude is incredible. Like Pedro said, the day after pitching feels like you been hit by a train. I used to pitch in High school and threw 90-92mph, and the next day I didn't have enough strength to open a door handle. Adrenaline dump is the most devastating thing to a body. To see this guy strike out 13 big league hitters, and then smash homers of his own the next day is unthinkable to me.
If he throws an average of 6 innings, he pitches 210 innings in 35 games. That means 25 wins, 5 losses, 5 games, no wins or losses. MVP and Cy Young double award! !
It's great to hear former MLB stars including Pedro Martinez, talking with such awe about Shohei Ohtani. Mark Gubicza, who does the color commentary on Angels broadcasts, has said many times how difficult it is for a pitcher to just recover physically after a start lasting six or seven innings. Just like what Pedro talks about. Ohtani has to be some amazing athlete with incredible conditioning, dedication and physical ability, as well as a workout routine that keeps him in top shape. He pitched well on Sunday, lowering his ERA as he allowed just two hits and one run over six innings, with nine strikeouts against the Twins. He has a BA against him of .142 when he's pitching, and the Angels have won 8 of the 10 games he started this year--a team with a mediocre .500 record this season. Meantime, as a hitter, he leads the Angels currently in HRs, RBIs, stolen bases and extra base hits. A team with Mike Trout on it. And he's not even been consistently at his best pitching or hitting yet.
The way that Ohtani is pushing himself in both hitting and pitching, I dread that anytime in the next 5 years he would just all of a sudden get injured and end his career. Appreciate his greatness now because it could end so suddenly. He's very likely to burn out instead of fade away.
I think Shohei can do all those things without draining all his energy is 1. He has been a 2 way player for a long time so he's used to it. 2. Look at the way he's built. - 6 feet 5 inches 225 ibs with very little bodyfat and very long legs. and 3. His movements as a pitcher and hitter are fluid and effortless. He has one of the most beautiful swings that I have ever seen, and his pitching delivery looks smooth and efficient.
Baseball is everything to Ohtani. That’s why, imagine being depressed because u can’t do what you love. He’s that way, pitching and hitting is what he loves what gives him enjoyment in life. He’s a well conditioned athlete and he dedicates all his time to baseball cuz at the end of the day most people want to drive a limbo and be on a yacht but for Shohei it’s hitting home runs and striking batters out. 6 hrs or batting 6 hrs of pitching, throw on the actual game and conditioning and thats a guy that loves baseball and is baseball.
He has started using his cutter more which seems to break right. If he develops this into another A-rated pitch......the batters are screwed. He could throw a sweeper which breaks left, and cutter which breaks right, a sinker or splitter which break down, or just blow you away with heat. I forgot he also has a curveball and slider too. Fastball, slider, sweeper, sinker, splitter, curve, and cutter. Did I miss anything? 😭
LADIES AND GENTLEMAN. I’M SO BLESSED TO WATCH THE GAME OF BASEBALL WITH A MASTERFUL SHOWMAN NAMED SHOHEI OHTANI. MY KIDS AND GRAND KIDS WILL HEAR THIS STORY OVER AND OVER. 🤷🏻♂️
I wonder how he is able to take care of anything outside of baseball. If I were his manager I'd do everything for him. Hire people to do everything for him outside of baseball.
shohei ohtani chasing history.? they still don't want to admit that only aaron is chasing history... the 2 way player seems to be walking history so it should be... HISTORY CHASING SHOHEI OHTANI 😂😂😂
Yes, most people probably don’t realize that, he has to be sore after pitching and still hits homers the day after. Incredible!
I know my comment might sound silly, and I don't have anywhere near the level of experience of most people who play the game. I just happen to be a right-handed pitcher who batted lefty in high school. Throwing from one side and and swinging from the other side is actually quite complementary in stretching out the body. I'm not saying this as a formula, but I say this from my own very limited personal experience. Recovery isn't as tough as many would suggest.
Could it be a coincidence that Ichiro was also a righty who bats lefty? He could throw a laser from right field and slash the ball ridiculously consistent.
Interesting observation to know.
He has hit homers the same day he is pitching.
Thats why i appriciate ohtani so much for what his doing in mlb.not only a great player but also the charm that you cant resist😂
SHOHEI OHTANI THE GREATEST BASEBALL PLAYER EVER 👏
He will most definitely be in the conversation if he keeps this up. I wish him all the best luck and to stay as healthy as he can be so everyone can enjoy this level of play for years to come.
Best player ever? I don't think so.
I mean.. don't forget about Babe Ruth, Willie Mays, Ted Williams, Hank Aaron, Ty Cobb, Roger Clemens, Micky Mantle, Lou Gehrig, just off the top of my head
Sure, this dude pitches ok and hits well, but is it sustainable for his entire career? He's only been in the league for 5-ish years now, say another 10 or so, average MLB career, I just don't think he can sustain. Who knows. I'll come back in 10 years if I'm alive and be like ok you were right.
@@DustinPlatt You have to admit if he keeps doing what he has been (obviously age decline will happen eventually), he's going to be in the conversation. Is he by far the best pitcher in the league? No. But he's still very very good. Probably hovering around top 15ish in the league for starting pitchers. And he's definitely one of the best hitters in the league. So you take someone who is one of the best hitters, steals bases, and is one of the better players in the most important position? That's someone who will be in the conversation of the best player ever.
It'd be like a hockey player being one of the better goalies, and being one of the highest scorers in the league. It's something that is unbelievable.
@xilence531
Everyone you mentioned is no doubt a great, with outstanding stats over long careers as SOLO position players.
Shohei doesn't need their length of time to be an all time great, since he's already got amazing stats as a TWO WAY PLAYER that he alone stands on top of and shares with no one else.
So, he may not end his career matching or surpassing those solo position greats, but his stats will be impressive and close enough with other pitching and hitting greats, to be considered a baseball all timer.
I know Ohtani has inspired a lot of people to try and be a two-way player. But I don't think they realize just how much work they will need to do in order to play both at a top level like Ohtani. Shohei is completely obsessed with the game of baseball. That's what allows him to keep pushing himself and keep doing the Monday things that allow him to be so great. That's the reason why I don't see how anyone will be able to do what he does any time soon. Even babe ruth stopped after a year and a half because it was too hard. Many will try and many will ultimately quit.
Why do do many people not appreciate what Ohtani does? 1. He makes it look easy. 2. Only professional ball players know what it takes to be at that level. Normal people haven't a clue.
Shotime obsessed with baseball.
Literally.
Talent+hard work=legends
Ichiro had the same obsession - all baseball all the time. We may not see another Ohtani for the same reason we may not see another Japanese hitter like Ichiro.
That’s why they call Ohtani a unicorn 🦄
Ohtani might not just be the first pitcher to do these things; he could very well be the last.
facts
And not to mention, the best! I mean, players like Babe Ruth stopped pitching a season or two in because it was too much on the body to do both. Ohtani is a freak of nature
Ohtani is goatani.
Top 5 pitcher and top 5 hitter in the MLB, former major leaguers can't believe it, yet he wasn't good enough to win the MVP last season because some guy in New York hit a lot of home runs.
Love to see him get the cycle while being a starting pitcher. He came very close twice 😮
he will eventually
On top of all that, Ohtani is humble and... NICE. That has to count for SOMETHING. The way he's out there playing the way he is and still has a level head on those shoulders, that's the kind of baseball I want my kids to watch and emulate.
Yes, he's humble and well-mannered and so nice, as well as playful and joyous as he's in the game. But he's also confident and forceful, he carries himself with a certain swagger and grace. There's just something unique in his presence.
History making! Yah baby! You can do it!
The greatest ever! Keep it up Shohei! Don’t let up! Show everyone how it’s done!
That’s what a MVP can do!!!
He's more than an MVP, this dude is incredible. Like Pedro said, the day after pitching feels like you been hit by a train. I used to pitch in High school and threw 90-92mph, and the next day I didn't have enough strength to open a door handle. Adrenaline dump is the most devastating thing to a body. To see this guy strike out 13 big league hitters, and then smash homers of his own the next day is unthinkable to me.
@davidmoss2576 he sometimes Homer's while pitching. He's different different. People don't get the load he goes through and does it elite level
Judge is the real MVP
@@followthewhiterabbit8561 judge is a strikeout machine that can't even run the bases or play outfield more than 4 times a weel
@@followthewhiterabbit8561 All this debate about Judge or Ohtani being MVP. People forget Kevin Durant mom is the real MVP.
'SHOHEI .. SHOHEI .. SHOHEI .. SHOHEI' ..
I like how when they threw it to Pedro he very diplomatically said "I'm not a stats nerd.."
If he throws an average of 6 innings, he pitches 210 innings in 35 games. That means 25 wins, 5 losses, 5 games, no wins or losses. MVP and Cy Young double award! !
And giving up less than 100 hits
@@csy897Correct. Now innings pitched 59 with 28 hits in 10 games. If Ohtani pitches 25 games from now on, 2.8 * 25 + 28 = 98 hits.
It's great to hear former MLB stars including Pedro Martinez, talking with such awe about Shohei Ohtani. Mark Gubicza, who does the color commentary on Angels broadcasts, has said many times how difficult it is for a pitcher to just recover physically after a start lasting six or seven innings. Just like what Pedro talks about. Ohtani has to be some amazing athlete with incredible conditioning, dedication and physical ability, as well as a workout routine that keeps him in top shape. He pitched well on Sunday, lowering his ERA as he allowed just two hits and one run over six innings, with nine strikeouts against the Twins. He has a BA against him of .142 when he's pitching, and the Angels have won 8 of the 10 games he started this year--a team with a mediocre .500 record this season. Meantime, as a hitter, he leads the Angels currently in HRs, RBIs, stolen bases and extra base hits. A team with Mike Trout on it. And he's not even been consistently at his best pitching or hitting yet.
When Pedro talks about pitching, you must listen! And believe!
true that
サムネが羨ましい！
大谷さんに頭撫でられてる🎵
4:11 Pedro is happy to have Ohtani stroke his head. It’s unreal.😊😊
Love it xD
he is actually mine❤
The way that Ohtani is pushing himself in both hitting and pitching, I dread that anytime in the next 5 years he would just all of a sudden get injured and end his career. Appreciate his greatness now because it could end so suddenly. He's very likely to burn out instead of fade away.
I think Shohei can do all those things without draining all his energy is 1. He has been a 2 way player for a long time so he's used to it. 2. Look at the way he's built. - 6 feet 5 inches 225 ibs with very little bodyfat and very long legs. and 3. His movements as a pitcher and hitter are fluid and effortless. He has one of the most beautiful swings that I have ever seen, and his pitching delivery looks smooth and efficient.
去年もこの偉大さ、異常さを特集して欲しかった。
ジャッジより、過小評価されてたことが悔やまれる。
MVPはなくとも、史上初の投打両規定達成はちゃんと取り上げて評価してほしかった、米メディアでここに触れた識者がいなかったのが残念。
大谷に関するこの手の話題についてはこれまでも散々賞賛されてきたし、別に過小評価なんてされてないですけどね。こういう番組は二年前から何度も放映されていますから。その偉大さを皆わかった上で、大谷は一昨年にMVPを既に獲得していたので昨年はジャッジになったというだけのことでしょう。MVPにはどうしてもそういう面があります。ジャッジがそれ以前にMVPを獲っていれば二年連続で大谷だったと思います。
That is very Goatanic.
Just wait till we start seeing goal tenders start banging in goals in NHL! The Ohtani effect.
Making history!!!
That's it!!!
Baseball is everything to Ohtani. That’s why, imagine being depressed because u can’t do what you love. He’s that way, pitching and hitting is what he loves what gives him enjoyment in life. He’s a well conditioned athlete and he dedicates all his time to baseball cuz at the end of the day most people want to drive a limbo and be on a yacht but for Shohei it’s hitting home runs and striking batters out. 6 hrs or batting 6 hrs of pitching, throw on the actual game and conditioning and thats a guy that loves baseball and is baseball.
This guy is a strike out machine when he's batting.
He has started using his cutter more which seems to break right. If he develops this into another A-rated pitch......the batters are screwed. He could throw a sweeper which breaks left, and cutter which breaks right, a sinker or splitter which break down, or just blow you away with heat. I forgot he also has a curveball and slider too. Fastball, slider, sweeper, sinker, splitter, curve, and cutter. Did I miss anything? 😭
LADIES AND GENTLEMAN. I’M SO BLESSED TO WATCH THE GAME OF BASEBALL WITH A MASTERFUL SHOWMAN NAMED SHOHEI OHTANI. MY KIDS AND GRAND KIDS WILL HEAR THIS STORY OVER AND OVER. 🤷🏻♂️
Jeez… I didn’t realize he was this good. His last 4 starts have been pretty bad.
Yagi...translated to English: GOAT
I wonder how he is able to take care of anything outside of baseball. If I were his manager I'd do everything for him. Hire people to do everything for him outside of baseball.
I Do Think Shohei Ohtani Needs To Learn My Secret Of 1st Base Because He's Going Out For 1st Base With The Angels If The Angels Can Promote Showtime
Pedro, Shohei Hand is on your head 🤣.
whatever you call it! OTHANI is a LEGEND in the history of BASEBALL!!!
would our elite youth baseball system allow kids to try this?
does anyone know if Sho has already started that revolution in kids?
How he gets himself ready to go out there and battle?
Easy answer. Dont party, take a good sleep.
he sleeps at least 10hrs a day
しかも正捕手いない中でこれよ…
I’ve never seen a player like this Chinaman, amazing!
Kinda racist, no?
Ohtani isn't on pace for 200 IPs though, maybe 180ish and that's pushing it. 30 starts (IF) x 6 ips average =180 IPs.
ペドロ１８０あるのに遠近感バグる奴ｗｗ
BRUH. HE’s ALRDY GREATER THAN BABE RUTH. SHUT THE DOOR ALRDY😂
KOREAN JAPANESE
ofcause not😂
shohei ohtani chasing history.? they still don't want to admit that only aaron is chasing history...
the 2 way player seems to be walking history so it should be...
HISTORY CHASING SHOHEI OHTANI 😂😂😂