As someone who grew up with formats like Video8, VHS-C and MiniDV i'm really happy that the younger generation of today loves and appreciates the look of these late 90s and early 2000s camcorders so much. And i can see why. Sure, technology moved on but the problem is.... certain Image Sensors have their own charme and unique look. It's like the electronic version of different film-emulsion looks that you have in the motion picture world. No matter how many features and how much more resolution and better dynamic range modern Camera sensors have... there's something really simple and to its own rights very beautiful about the picture coming from these old lowres videocamera sensors. Especially combined with the interlaced picture look. I remember back in the days when you saw DV footage in a CRT TV it really looked almost like HD compared to what you'd see with other consumer videoformats. And personally i always preferred the look of a CCD sensor rather than CMOS. Even till this day. Especially in the early days of HD camcorders their CMOS sensors were terrible because unlike CCD Image sensors, which captured the ENTIRE picture at the same time, a CMOS sensor is being read out line-wise from top to bottom (sometimes bottom to top). And the early ones were pretty slow which is also why caused this Jello / Rolling Shutter effect because the image would be slowly read out from the sensor at a rate where lower parts of the sensor would simply lag a little bit. Ever tried to capture a flashing light with a CMOS sensor? You'd always have half the picture bright while the other half is not bright. The readout speed of CMOS sensors got faster over the years but you STILL get this sort of artifacts every now and then. And for many years this really made HD cameras with CMOS sensor very very useless for certain things. ESPECIALLY for situations with fast motion like with Skater Videos. And CCD chip based camcorders became rarer and rarer. Another reason why CMOS took over was these sensors consumed a lot less energy compared to CCDs which were more power hungry. Using a MiniDV camera like the VX1000 /2000 these days still makes sense because the DV material shot with it uses a pretty low compression and DV even uses an intraframe codec. WHich means EVERY single frame of your DV footage is an actual single-frame and is not just saving the differences between several keyframes, like H264 does in most cases. DV footage is also very resourcefriendly to edit. An hour of DV footage is ca 13 GB in filestorage consumption. So it fits easily most USB drives and single-layer BD-Rs if you backup it from tape or recorded it to flash memory via Firewire-out.
Internal mics were never intended to be the end game for professional videography. It just so happens the vx1000 mic sounds great compared to the other internal mics of cameras at the time. They must have figured most users weren't going to be at a level of audio expertise to really ever consider using a dedicated mic. It seems as time went by companies dropped the idea of putting energy into the internal mic, as most professionals would get a real mic and only use the internal mic for reference. With a little knowledge of compression and eq the sound of the vx mic can easily be replicated on any compressor mic $100 and up. Although it sure is convenient to not need an external mic to sound good enough for skateboarding, that is unless you plan to do anything else that requires more attention to sound.
Michael Svenson could you theoretically make a sound preset in premiere to emulate the vx mic? I did see the vxmic and was interested in it, but for the price no way
Color grading is its own discipline, the best results one can get actually don't start with manipulating the colors in the camera, but rather starting from the flattest image possible and working on the colors in post. Its like how the old cameras used to come with built in fade to black transitions and such. Totally worthless unless you plan to do real editing. Same goes with color but on a whole different level and a lot more complicated.
If you want your VX1000 in FULL quality, connect it to a HDMI converter into a 4K Recorder Monitor. This is what I do with most of my analog/old digital cameras, and it REALLY works.
I grew up with these vx camcorders but could never afford them. So I recorded with Hi8 then eventually a D8. It's nostalgia for me and now I can get one semi-affordable. It isn't cause I don't like HD. I have an HD tv in my living room. But if I bust out the NES I have a standard def tv for that. Why would someone in 2022 want to play the atari, nes, etc? Why not, play it all if you want. I have a vx2000, vx2100 but I also have the ax2000 that's HD. They are all dope.
Well,the bottom line is that you can make the vx camera or hd camera look both amazing and horrible. One is not necceserly superior to the other. What matters is how you film,edit,export the video,who are the skaters,what are the spots and what's the general vibe off the edit. On a techincal level it needs to look good but it also needs to have a good feeling. And you can perfect or mess up these things on both cameras. In both scenarios is just about how much you care,passion and work are you willing to put into it.
actually no, they are cheaper now than ever. A lot of professional filmers who aren't involved in skateboarding have them in a closet or storage somewhere that they will eventually sell or take to a thrift shop etc.
Maybe if they stop trying to rip people off by overcharging the extreme fisheye, perhaps HD would get liked more often? I mean who did y'all film with that fisheye? Nyjah Huston?! Hell, I don't know if that fisheye was hit in the past. I don't know why y'all be charging 13 grand for it on ebay.
The last video is suppose to be credited to, Kevin DelGrosso (@chefraekwon)
Please ignore my stupidity
The Wallrider.
A vx1000 with an SD card really is the dream
I think you can get an attachment now that allows you to film onto a sd card or something like that so you don’t have to worry about tapes
ImmersionRc Powerplay
Sony MRC-1 with FireWire hooked up to a VX
for real that would be so nice
@@vcr4497 Or Firestore FS4/FS100, although you gotta mod it to use a card
As someone who grew up with formats like Video8, VHS-C and MiniDV i'm really happy that the younger generation of today loves and appreciates the look of these late 90s and early 2000s camcorders so much. And i can see why. Sure, technology moved on but the problem is.... certain Image Sensors have their own charme and unique look. It's like the electronic version of different film-emulsion looks that you have in the motion picture world. No matter how many features and how much more resolution and better dynamic range modern Camera sensors have... there's something really simple and to its own rights very beautiful about the picture coming from these old lowres videocamera sensors. Especially combined with the interlaced picture look. I remember back in the days when you saw DV footage in a CRT TV it really looked almost like HD compared to what you'd see with other consumer videoformats. And personally i always preferred the look of a CCD sensor rather than CMOS. Even till this day. Especially in the early days of HD camcorders their CMOS sensors were terrible because unlike CCD Image sensors, which captured the ENTIRE picture at the same time, a CMOS sensor is being read out line-wise from top to bottom (sometimes bottom to top). And the early ones were pretty slow which is also why caused this Jello / Rolling Shutter effect because the image would be slowly read out from the sensor at a rate where lower parts of the sensor would simply lag a little bit. Ever tried to capture a flashing light with a CMOS sensor? You'd always have half the picture bright while the other half is not bright. The readout speed of CMOS sensors got faster over the years but you STILL get this sort of artifacts every now and then. And for many years this really made HD cameras with CMOS sensor very very useless for certain things. ESPECIALLY for situations with fast motion like with Skater Videos. And CCD chip based camcorders became rarer and rarer. Another reason why CMOS took over was these sensors consumed a lot less energy compared to CCDs which were more power hungry. Using a MiniDV camera like the VX1000 /2000 these days still makes sense because the DV material shot with it uses a pretty low compression and DV even uses an intraframe codec. WHich means EVERY single frame of your DV footage is an actual single-frame and is not just saving the differences between several keyframes, like H264 does in most cases. DV footage is also very resourcefriendly to edit. An hour of DV footage is ca 13 GB in filestorage consumption. So it fits easily most USB drives and single-layer BD-Rs if you backup it from tape or recorded it to flash memory via Firewire-out.
Nothing has ever beaten the VX1000 sound
Internal mics were never intended to be the end game for professional videography. It just so happens the vx1000 mic sounds great compared to the other internal mics of cameras at the time. They must have figured most users weren't going to be at a level of audio expertise to really ever consider using a dedicated mic. It seems as time went by companies dropped the idea of putting energy into the internal mic, as most professionals would get a real mic and only use the internal mic for reference. With a little knowledge of compression and eq the sound of the vx mic can easily be replicated on any compressor mic $100 and up. Although it sure is convenient to not need an external mic to sound good enough for skateboarding, that is unless you plan to do anything else that requires more attention to sound.
@@MichaelSvenson i think it beats a lot of external mics out there as well
Michael Svenson could you theoretically make a sound preset in premiere to emulate the vx mic? I did see the vxmic and was interested in it, but for the price no way
imagine if sony remade vx1000 but sd card
Thatd make me so so happy
Get a monitor/recorder and you'll be set. Get a firewire to thunderbolt, and a thunderbolt to hdmi. In theory this would work.
There's still so much VX1000s being used for filming it will never fully switch over, alot of skateboarders and pros still like the VX more
I use HD just cause its simple. Using a vx seems complicated but vx just looks and sounds way better. HD just looks grey and souless to me
Color grading is its own discipline, the best results one can get actually don't start with manipulating the colors in the camera, but rather starting from the flattest image possible and working on the colors in post. Its like how the old cameras used to come with built in fade to black transitions and such. Totally worthless unless you plan to do real editing. Same goes with color but on a whole different level and a lot more complicated.
@@MichaelSvenson yeah I try my best to get the color settings to at least mimick the golden vx look
@@MichaelSvenson Right, so many people have no idea how to properly produce video with their dslr and mirrorless cameras!
@Cesar Benitez depends on what camera you're using just play with your settings
VXismoresimplebutifeelyou
If you want your VX1000 in FULL quality, connect it to a HDMI converter into a 4K Recorder Monitor. This is what I do with most of my analog/old digital cameras, and it REALLY works.
Few hundred= 700-800
i will always prefer the vx. it has a timeless look that transports you to another time.
I grew up with these vx camcorders but could never afford them. So I recorded with Hi8 then eventually a D8. It's nostalgia for me and now I can get one semi-affordable. It isn't cause I don't like HD. I have an HD tv in my living room. But if I bust out the NES I have a standard def tv for that. Why would someone in 2022 want to play the atari, nes, etc? Why not, play it all if you want. I have a vx2000, vx2100 but I also have the ax2000 that's HD. They are all dope.
4:3 is the reason why skaters want VX. Even tho its possible to film HD in 4:3 , almost no one does it.
I’d prefer VX HD 4:3 with mk1
Seems like the nostalgic
Well,the bottom line is that you can make the vx camera or hd camera look both amazing and horrible. One is not necceserly superior to the other. What matters is how you film,edit,export the video,who are the skaters,what are the spots and what's the general vibe off the edit. On a techincal level it needs to look good but it also needs to have a good feeling. And you can perfect or mess up these things on both cameras. In both scenarios is just about how much you care,passion and work are you willing to put into it.
thanks for this nice informative video
Theres only so many VX1000s in the world too so at sommmme point they’ll just be too expensive
actually no, they are cheaper now than ever. A lot of professional filmers who aren't involved in skateboarding have them in a closet or storage somewhere that they will eventually sell or take to a thrift shop etc.
@@12mak aparently you havent gone on to ebay to see that all the ones in the US go for $1200 right now.
@@12mak Wrong
Good vid
Strobeck was really the one made skaters even consider Hd. Definitely not pretty sweet 😂😂😂
someone suld mod a vx to use sd cards
lol uncut?? tf you doin here lol
th-cam.com/video/biAT2WO573Q/w-d-xo.html
there are tapeless mods for vx
Please please Sony make a new VX1000
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I hope you figured out how to level out the audio! this was hard to watch
Maybe if they stop trying to rip people off by overcharging the extreme fisheye, perhaps HD would get liked more often? I mean who did y'all film with that fisheye? Nyjah Huston?! Hell, I don't know if that fisheye was hit in the past. I don't know why y'all be charging 13 grand for it on ebay.
VX is awful. Stop it