Is there a way or option for them to build the microphone on the website. I really want the setup you have but i wouldnt want to build it. Also i got no soldering experience.
My condenser ? The Micparts S-12? Yeah, they will sell a complete mic. And as I understand they are made to order, so you can ask for the HF rolloff mod . . . IF you think it'd suit you.
@DATT thanks will order one also one more question is there a way to block out your pc fan noise before editing it out in post if your condenser mic picks it up? I ask because I've seen live streamers use condenser microphones for there live stream.
@@jaycranmer2001 Ahhh yeah, that's why people will use the SM7B, cause it has good background noise rejection. If you can't make your PC quieter, about the only thing you can do, is get the mic as close as possible to you, and turn down the gain/sensitivity. Streamers using condensers might have treated their room, and or have quiet computers. There might be software that filters background noise, but I don't know about it.
I have both and I personally love them both equally. However, I use my RE20 the most. Handling noise isn't as big of a deal to me, but the proximity of the RE20 is a game changer. You get the background rejection of a dynamic but the sound quality of a condenser. Great video!
@@DATT oh yeah you’ll find no mic better for that. Also the smooth sound of the 7b is unmatched in any other dynamic I’ve heard, and very few condensers. Definitely can’t go wrong either way
@@pushin5500 Funny thing is, with the presence switch on, it sounds exactly like an SM58. And you need that switch on if you're talking over something, like a game or background music. I'm somewhat convinces that the SM7B is just sure taking the 58 and retooling it for broadcast use.
I got an RE20 in the last year and my god you're right about the RE20 is much more susceptible to handling noise over my SM7B. I've had my 7B for over 12 years and for me, I do prefer the RE20 for the clarity.
I bought an RE20, but slightly regretting my decision as when the foam disintegrates it will cost around $250 each time and some ppl replace the foam every 5 years, so starts to add up.
$250 for a piece of foam ? Or $250 to get EV to replace the foam? That sounds absurd to me. Hmm, I can't imagine t foam ONLY lasting 5 years, I'm sure there are a lot if mics in circulation that have never had a foam change. Maybe even some we've heard. I do vaguely recall reading/hearing that there is a big piece of foam in there that becomes part of the mics sound. If that's the case, I guess it could be important. And considering the mic I was using was a rental, who knows what state the foam was in.
@@DATT from my research, the foam is inside and wraps around the capsule. When it deteriorates it can damage plugs and the capsule itself. The person that told me every 5 years was him being careful vs some mic’s it will never happen to. The $250 was a complete replacement and internals changed. I just wasn’t prepared to take the risk and swapped to an SM7B.
@@ChroniclesofGhoul Ohh idk, From my experience it can take a lot longer than 5 years for foam to break down. Especially if you can take it out and clean it. Chemically, with no interference, well I'm not sure, 20 years ? but then if people are spitting on it, maybe faster. I think it might not be as big a deal as one might thing. Even the SM7B has a little bit of foam on the capsule that can plug it, but I'm sure it's much easier to replace. I think if it needs to be replaced every 5 years, than it's a busy mic that's making money, so it's worth it. But really, you can't go wrong with the SM7B, at least for this application. The highs are more forgiving and the isolation is win.
I'd like to see a video like this about some of the microphones Lewitt has, they have quite a few options that seem to be a great for someone who might be interested in content creation who might otherwise get something on the higher end like the SM7B or someone who might get something on the lower end like a Rode NT1. I don't really see them being mentioned anywhere, but I believe if they got their name out there then they could definitely take over some of that market share from someone like Shure.
Wow eh, yeah they seem interesting, esp some of the intelligent settings. The demos they have are better than some Shure demo where they didn't even bother to record the person talking about the mic WITH the mic they were talking about. The one demo I watched had some nice features, but the sound was thin and bright, not sure if that's her voice, the way they mixed it, or the mic itself.
I own an Apogee Symphony Desktop Interface and I must say that the clarity of the RE20 is outstanding! I own both mics, but the RE20 is the clear win for me st least for for vocals.
On yeah, if I was recording music, RE hands down. I don't even thing I'd consider the SM7B, tho some people in extreme metal like it for recording harsh vocals.
Yeah I looked into those too, after the fact. Not sure they are much cheaper up here, and the store I was dealing with didn't have them at the time. Kind of want to try the Transformer one with an RE20.
Thanks for the comparison. I'm no audiophile, but I can tell the difference. And I've heard so many podcasts that use the SM7b (Joe Rogan, Tim Pool, etc) that I can almost tell that it's being used, even without knowing/seeing. It has a certain sound that you start to notice after a while. While I feel like the SM7b is probably the one to go with, I admit I'm sort of a contrarian, and I'm kind of sick of seeing the Shure. It's everywhere, all the time, all at once. Almost certainly, I'll get the RE20, but in black.
Yeah, I went with the SM7B. Mostly for it's noise rejections and less siblance in a simple setup. The RE20 was better sounding, but it'd need more tuning and the additional shock mount which still wouldn't accommodate how I use it.
This is true, I did like the RE20, but I found the SM7B was ultimately more turnkey. Also works for me cause I handle the mic a lot. Still kind of want to pick up an RE20 sometime, but I can't justify the expense right now.
I prefer the RE20 myself. Managed to find someone selling a 'faulty' unit for $90. Seller claiming it didn't work.. I guess they didn't know it's a dynamic mic and need s loads of gain, as I couldn't find any faults with it.
Before I put the boosters on ? Yeah, they both need a lot of gain to work well, so you're hearing the preamp noise. The mic itself doesn't make that noise. The better a preamp/interface you have, the quieter they will seem.
Haha yeah, well, part of the idea in this vid is the raw sound, cause some people using them for streaming won't have an EQ, or wouldn't know how to use one if they did.
One of my favourite comparison videos of the two, great job!
Hey, Thanks !
Is there a way or option for them to build the microphone on the website. I really want the setup you have but i wouldnt want to build it. Also i got no soldering experience.
My condenser ? The Micparts S-12? Yeah, they will sell a complete mic.
And as I understand they are made to order, so you can ask for the HF rolloff mod . . . IF you think it'd suit you.
@DATT thanks will order one also one more question is there a way to block out your pc fan noise before editing it out in post if your condenser mic picks it up? I ask because I've seen live streamers use condenser microphones for there live stream.
@@jaycranmer2001 Ahhh yeah, that's why people will use the SM7B, cause it has good background noise rejection. If you can't make your PC quieter, about the only thing you can do, is get the mic as close as possible to you, and turn down the gain/sensitivity.
Streamers using condensers might have treated their room, and or have quiet computers.
There might be software that filters background noise, but I don't know about it.
This is the comparison I've been looking for. Gracias!
You're Welcome !
Dude I love your comparison man. This is fantastic and hilarious at the same time 😂
Hey Thanks !
I have both and I personally love them both equally. However, I use my RE20 the most. Handling noise isn't as big of a deal to me, but the proximity of the RE20 is a game changer. You get the background rejection of a dynamic but the sound quality of a condenser. Great video!
Yeah, it was a hard choice, I did like the RE. I ultimately went with the Sm cause I needed handling rejection.
@@DATT oh yeah you’ll find no mic better for that. Also the smooth sound of the 7b is unmatched in any other dynamic I’ve heard, and very few condensers. Definitely can’t go wrong either way
@@pushin5500 Funny thing is, with the presence switch on, it sounds exactly like an SM58. And you need that switch on if you're talking over something, like a game or background music. I'm somewhat convinces that the SM7B is just sure taking the 58 and retooling it for broadcast use.
I got an RE20 in the last year and my god you're right about the RE20 is much more susceptible to handling noise over my SM7B. I've had my 7B for over 12 years and for me, I do prefer the RE20 for the clarity.
Yeah, The 7B pretty much needs the presence switch turned on. I admit, I quite like how rough I can be with it.
@@DATT Agreed. The 7B definitely needs some EQ shaping.
@@DwoalinAh maybe, I did make some very subtle adjustments, but it was pretty good flat.
Thats because you are supposed to get a shockmount for the RE20, like the 309A, right? SM7B comes with a integrated shockmount.
@@Ryu_Yin I'm aware of the shock mount but also some of us don't want a chonkin shockmount in the shot for videos, etc 😅
RE20 is my favorite out of the gaggle of mics I have. No booster needed with my setup, DBX 286s has plenty of gain.
Ohh, sounds like you got yourself a solid preamp. Yeah, the RE20 is hotter to begin with, so it's less likely to need the boost.
I bought an RE20, but slightly regretting my decision as when the foam disintegrates it will cost around $250 each time and some ppl replace the foam every 5 years, so starts to add up.
$250 for a piece of foam ? Or $250 to get EV to replace the foam? That sounds absurd to me.
Hmm, I can't imagine t foam ONLY lasting 5 years, I'm sure there are a lot if mics in circulation that have never had a foam change. Maybe even some we've heard.
I do vaguely recall reading/hearing that there is a big piece of foam in there that becomes part of the mics sound. If that's the case, I guess it could be important.
And considering the mic I was using was a rental, who knows what state the foam was in.
@@DATT from my research, the foam is inside and wraps around the capsule. When it deteriorates it can damage plugs and the capsule itself. The person that told me every 5 years was him being careful vs some mic’s it will never happen to.
The $250 was a complete replacement and internals changed.
I just wasn’t prepared to take the risk and swapped to an SM7B.
@@ChroniclesofGhoul Ohh idk, From my experience it can take a lot longer than 5 years for foam to break down. Especially if you can take it out and clean it. Chemically, with no interference, well I'm not sure, 20 years ? but then if people are spitting on it, maybe faster.
I think it might not be as big a deal as one might thing. Even the SM7B has a little bit of foam on the capsule that can plug it, but I'm sure it's much easier to replace. I think if it needs to be replaced every 5 years, than it's a busy mic that's making money, so it's worth it.
But really, you can't go wrong with the SM7B, at least for this application. The highs are more forgiving and the isolation is win.
I'd like to see a video like this about some of the microphones Lewitt has, they have quite a few options that seem to be a great for someone who might be interested in content creation who might otherwise get something on the higher end like the SM7B or someone who might get something on the lower end like a Rode NT1. I don't really see them being mentioned anywhere, but I believe if they got their name out there then they could definitely take over some of that market share from someone like Shure.
Wow eh, yeah they seem interesting, esp some of the intelligent settings.
The demos they have are better than some Shure demo where they didn't even bother to record the person talking about the mic WITH the mic they were talking about.
The one demo I watched had some nice features, but the sound was thin and bright, not sure if that's her voice, the way they mixed it, or the mic itself.
I own an Apogee Symphony Desktop Interface and I must say that the clarity of the RE20 is outstanding! I own both mics, but the RE20 is the clear win for me st least for for vocals.
On yeah, if I was recording music, RE hands down. I don't even thing I'd consider the SM7B, tho some people in extreme metal like it for recording harsh vocals.
I bought a Fethead, was WAY cheaper than a cloudlifter and does a great job adding gain.
Yeah I looked into those too, after the fact. Not sure they are much cheaper up here, and the store I was dealing with didn't have them at the time. Kind of want to try the Transformer one with an RE20.
Thanks for the comparison.
I'm no audiophile, but I can tell the difference. And I've heard so many podcasts that use the SM7b (Joe Rogan, Tim Pool, etc) that I can almost tell that it's being used, even without knowing/seeing. It has a certain sound that you start to notice after a while.
While I feel like the SM7b is probably the one to go with, I admit I'm sort of a contrarian, and I'm kind of sick of seeing the Shure. It's everywhere, all the time, all at once.
Almost certainly, I'll get the RE20, but in black.
Yeah, I went with the SM7B. Mostly for it's noise rejections and less siblance in a simple setup. The RE20 was better sounding, but it'd need more tuning and the additional shock mount which still wouldn't accommodate how I use it.
You can get other cheaper shockmounts for the RE20 and I love the RE20. Both are excellent though, so there is no wrong choice.
This is true, I did like the RE20, but I found the SM7B was ultimately more turnkey. Also works for me cause I handle the mic a lot.
Still kind of want to pick up an RE20 sometime, but I can't justify the expense right now.
I prefer the RE20 myself. Managed to find someone selling a 'faulty' unit for $90. Seller claiming it didn't work..
I guess they didn't know it's a dynamic mic and need s loads of gain, as I couldn't find any faults with it.
Sweet ! Good Old, they didn't know what they had score.
both mics has white noise
Before I put the boosters on ? Yeah, they both need a lot of gain to work well, so you're hearing the preamp noise. The mic itself doesn't make that noise. The better a preamp/interface you have, the quieter they will seem.
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YW !
If only someone would invent EQ.
Haha yeah, well, part of the idea in this vid is the raw sound, cause some people using them for streaming won't have an EQ, or wouldn't know how to use one if they did.