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- Daniel Penny pleaded not guilty to second-degree manslaughter and criminally negligent homicide this week in the subway killing of Jordan Neely. One of Penny's attorneys, Thomas Kenniff, joined CBS News to talk about the case.
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This isn’t a left or right issue. People have the right to defend themselves when their lives are threatened so don’t say the only people defending Daniel Penny are on “the other side”.
People who are trying to make this a political issue are either trying to sow discord or somehow hoping to profit from discord. Be wary of commenters defending this prosecution.
Every reasonable person knows it is wrong, it’s dishonest to say otherwise. If your life is being threatened on the subway where there is no escape for you and your children you’ll change your opinion real quick.
It’s sad that Jordan Nealy didn’t get the help that he needed and we need to do MUCH BETTER as a society addressing mental health issues. That doesn’t mean you need to lay down your life because the system failed someone.
You stated this perfectly.
@@JaimieJo Thank you Jaimie Jo!
Weird these threats were never mentioned in his initial statements to police. Also hard to claim you felt threatened when you attack someone from behind.
Yes, it is. Democrats are racist and lawless pieces of sh*t and Republicans realize the reality that Daniel Penny did nothing wrong.
Very well put.. people gave him money not because of political beliefs ..anyone defending themselves or others could end up in the same situation .. people are tired of the system coddling criminals and blaming victims..
The family that had nothing to do with him until his death..... if the tables were turned there would be no story...
Why didn't his family help him ? Where were they during all these arrests and mental health episodes?
that doesn’t change that he was murdered
@@benbyler9807 self defense.
@@benbyler9807 He WASN'T murdered. He killed himself and you people need to start owning up to your choices in life.
Feeding out of dumpsters.. now ..Cha ching..?
@@benbyler9807 if he's family helped him he wouldn't be suffering from being homeless and have mental illness. He would be having a job.
Honestly, it's hard to imagine just how much terror and crime Penny has prevented. Neely had over 40 convictions and showed no signs of stopping. In fact, he continued to make threats, which he had previously proven he was more than willing to carry out. How many more criminal actions did Neely need to commit before he was put away for good? 5, 10, 50, 100 commissions? Thanks to Penny, we won't have to find out.
All these people outraged that Perry is facing manslaughter charges are pathetic. I guess you also believe Derek Chauvin was justified in killing George Floyd? If all Penny was doing was trying to protect himself and passengers, why did he continue to hold Neely in a chokehold even after the train arrived at the station and all the passengers had exited the train?
Shame on you CBS for bringing up race . If Daniel Penny and Jordan Neely were the same race there wouldn’t be all this vitriol.
Just thought of you Daniel Penny, praying it goes well, we need more people like you !
Just because people gave him that money don't mean he guilty it was their own personal reason why they gave him that money and if he hadn't got that money they wouldn't be representing him now his lawyer want to give a personal interview I hate when they try to justify stuff especially with money involved.
Grammar much?
I know that does. You still a murderer rather he go to jail or not. This is not a debate that just my piece I guess we all have one.
SEMPER FI DANIEL PENNY NOT GUILTY UNIVERSE WILL SET HIM FREE 1LUV
Not sure how the "universe" sets anyone free, but the court may lock him up...
Hero
Your client was not confronted with the history of the homeless men as you are attempting to portray.
I Your client was confronted with a man who was acting out
He knew the show cold could result in death. And he was negligent in the fact that he went too far.
There are too many people today that use the physical advantage over other people.
An unarmed, mentally ill person got loud so a dude twice his size strangled him to death....it's pretty easy to understand...
The homeless man would be alive if he didn't go around threatening to assault women and children...
What bull
Yeah lock that criminal up and justice for Jordan kneely.
Your in a cult
Free daniel!
I agree.
Neely had been arrested 42 times at the age of 30. 42 times, with charges ranging from criminal trespass up to assault. Penny should be hailed as a hero, because he is.
Yeah, he strangled a guy he never spoke to...real "hero"
@@BullyMacguire they never interacted. He just strangled him to death....
@@BullyMacguire ahhh ok...now we see can your real motivations....wow, Do Better....bye....
@@BullyMacguire dude...everytime a white man kills a black man and the case gets media attention, every racist says "they were taking out the trash" or "they were getting rid of unwanted waste"
Same crap, new case....
This same thing happened with Ahmed Aubrey, George Floyd and Kyle Rittenhouse.
Are you planning to visit Penny in prison?? Yes or no??
Hey, was Neely a murderer?? Did he strangle anyone to death.....???
@@MaggiesNight Whereas a real keyboard soldier such as yourself deserves the true medal of honor 💩
Where are the counter-protests in support of Daniel Penny?
That 3 million dollar defense fund is the protest.
People are protesting with their wallets.
@@chuckscott-cy7iq Yup, isn't it interesting in these situations one side protests legally and peacefully, and the other side turns to violence? Every time.
the family, the family, the family .... where was 'the family' when Jordan was struggling with homelessness and mental health issues?
where was 'the family' when Jordan was assaulting old ladies and children and getting arrested 40 times after causing havoc on society?
When they say the family they mean the leechers
@@chobiden7770 Cheering him on.
Radd 696, Well written.
0:23 "who was black"
I instinctively rolled my eyes.
Media in western countries are literal black supremacists 😂
Media in western countries are white people literal black supremacists since the people who run the media are white 😂
People should be thanking him for keeping so many people safe.
Nobody was in danger except the guy he killed.
@@ziploc2000 40 arrests including punching an elderly woman in the face breaking her nose and kidnapping a child....
The world is a better place thanks to Penny.
@@ziploc2000Every eyewitness said they WERE in danger, liar.
@@ziploc2000are you a BLM member?
@@ziploc2000 well you know what they say play stupid games win stupid prizes
There are diff rules for diff people
The fellow Jordan killed a homeless person in self defense n was not charged
This man fought for our country!!!!!!!!!!
Please let’s not make a fool of this poor innocent man!!!!
It’s a sad world
Can’t we all look over the color of our skin
We are all Gods children
I blame the law
I was jumped n robbed n car jacked
The law did nothing for me!! I was almost killed!!!!!!!!!! These homeless people drug addicts do not go to jail!!!!!! I was almost killed!!!!!!!!!
The law is against the innocent
his name is Daniel
(I will never read a reply no matter what) Some of us live in areas where you can physically be assaulted or lose your job for saying the truth. But what doesn't lie, is the support. Daniel Penny has received $3,000,000 in support from real Americans and real human beings on GiveSendGo. Jordan Neely has raised less than $3,000.
This also shows you the quality of the types of people who are backing both sides. Violent liberal protesters who pretend to care about race treatment or LGBT or whatever, they really don't care. It's all about feeling powerful for them. If they truly cared, Jordan Neelys GoFundMe would have millions in support. They know deep down these people are horrible, which is why instead of sending support they break glass storefronts and steal expensive shoes.
penny the subway killer when he drops the soap: 🍆😳😫💦
100% Correct!!
System failed in this situation.. failure to ensure public safety... Failure to provide proper mental health and housing... And failing by prosecuting a Samaritan attempting to ensure the safety of others..
No, Alvin Bragg clearly wants people like Daniel Penny dead.
The system failed because a man who choked a mentally ill person to death for ranting about being hungry and thirsty is getting millions of dollars and he's labeled a hero.
Blame anyone but the person who killed him....
@@MaggiesNight Keep coping Junior.
@@MaggiesNight ok smart guy, what about the two people helping him??? one of them was either black or hispanic.
Homeless need to be helped!!! Not running the streets
Stop taking in people from other countries n help our own !!!!!! The law is too blame
All our lives matter!!!!!
Peace n harmony
Homeless people's family like Neely's need to stop dumping their trash on society
Neely, wHo iS BLacK
>mass shooter shooting up a school and cop aims his rifle at him
>Mass shooter pulls down mask showing he is black
>cop lowers his rifle and breathes a sigh of relief. The day is saved.
@@DaveSmith-cp5kj Please expound.
The family just tryna make money that’s the life of blak 😂
@ CBS, why won't you show current pictures of Neely? Instead you choose to show pictures from a long time ago....
Daniel did nothing wrong, he's a hero. It's a shame that he's being treated like a criminal when the real criminal was the bum he took out.
Sorry everyone. I need to correct myself. I keep referring to Jordan
Im referring to the young fellow this morning who was found innocent for stabbing a homeless man in self defense
I thought his name was Jordan
We need to protect ourselves. If the law is not!!!!
Again! I was attacked n robbed !!!! The cops were not much help
Our politicians are useless!!!!!
Ok stay safe you all
Happy 4 th
I’m signing off!!!
Good Luck!!!
He's not a hero. He strangled a mentally ill person who was half his size....
@@MaggiesNight He is a hero and that ev-il bum deserved it. He was a danger to everybody on that train and if Daniel didn't intervene in time something bad would have happened.
@@wakeupsheeple513 Something bad? Like a guy strangled to death? Yeah..glad we avoided that....
He murderer a homeless dude, there is nothing heroic about what he did.
Look at your obvious bias
Yes. But it's not because he was black he was in a chokehold it's because he was going to harm a group of people and was on meth. Daniel is a hero.
How was he going to harm them? What situation has verbal threats warrant self defense? He didn't even defend himself Penny had approached & choked Neely being the only one to commit an assault. You think they're gonna allow ppl to assault others for verbal words alone?
Daniel Penny did nothing wrong.
Uhhh..I mean...he did cause the death of another person....so....
@@MaggiesNightuhhh he didn't that's just an unfortunate tragedy why don't you go outside
@@anniep122 He strangled a guy to death...that's actually what happened....
I gave up all my possessions n car in order not to get shot
To Teach 4807, When and where?
*DANIEL PENNY IS A HERO* 💪❤️
*SELFLESSLY PROTECTING HIMSELF AND OTHERS FROM A VIOLENT HOMELESS PERSON RAGING ON INNOCENT PEOPLE*
*GOD BLESS DANIEL PENNY* 🙏❤️
Are you planning to visit him in jail??
Sad all around. I don't think intent was deadly.
ur no Genius either 😂
Daniel Penny is a hero. We need more Daniel Pennies. Daniel Penny 4 president. 🥳🥳🥳🥳
Tell us you're a racist without saying it....
It's hilarious you all grouped up to support rasicm....
😂😂😅
@@BullyMacguire How do I not understand the concept of racism? Please explain...this should be fun....
@@MaggiesNight Please explain why your still on here crying when the local short bus is waiting on you, and you know you can't miss the 14th showing of Finding Nemo lil guy.
@@joshstubs2927 you're...not your....wow....
"Who was black"... wtf does that to have to do with anything? People are people regardless of skin colour. A criminal is a criminal.
I support you Daniel Penny!
I know how black people are and how they can get out of control very easily.
Stay strong white brother!
Tell us you're a white supremacist without actually saying it....
Yes.
Jordan neely never hit anyone throw daniel away throw away the key murderer
He had been arrested over 40 times....and not for jaywalking!!
@@JackTheSkunk so people change and he murdered a guy like come in guys this is stupid daniel penny is definitely guilty like did he know that before he killed the man.
@@lotokiba851that POS wasn't going to change lmao. Come on now
Yeah, he never was able to hit anyone because Daniel stopped him. I mean he literally told everyone what he was about to do.
@@lotokiba851 lol clearly he didn't change!
We all need a Daniel !!!
Yes, sir.
I wouldn’t convict. RIP tho
Daniel Penny doing what I wish I could do to people on the metro every day. Always screaming and scaring people.
I don't see you choking out the white guy yelling at me and threatening to assault me for just minding my business and not wanting to give up my seat for his daughter on the subway😒😒😒
"We" need to do something about mental health violence?? How about his own family doing something first? They were the first line of defense, the first to recognize his deteriorating mental health, the first who could've driven him to a facility, commit him far from crowded urban areas. Why did the Neely family suddenly show up to protest someone else taking action to protect a whole subway car from him? Characterizing Neely as a Michael Jackson impersonator is blind enabling, as if he was a professional instead of a threat, a grifter in a costume.
For ✝️ and 🇺🇸 thank you
Daniel Penny
They should put out travel warnings for new york, because you are obviously not safe and you are not allowed to protect yourself.
Pre judge...ask the dead
Yes I’m aware of his name thank you
Jordan n Daniel r heroes n fought for their lives
Yeah, the unarmed homeless dude with mental illness, who was half his size...was definitely a threat....
@purdyscary9832 his criminal record says that he was definitely a threat to people.
@@Deadassbruhfrfr how exactly were the people on the train supposed to know he has a record...???
For all they know he was an actor or a TH-cam prank.
His criminal history is irrelevant.
@@MaggiesNight not by the record, by the way he was acting. Everyone om that train said they felt threatened by Neely.
@@MaggiesNight If you're gonna grieve this much over a potential lover, 6 feet under, why don't you find out where he resides now and send him some flowers and your thoughts?
Trump gon pardon this Chad when he win ☝️!
Free Penny 🪙
A good lawyer would remain quiet.
No, because previous cases like Derek Chauvin have demonstrated courts regularly let the jury be tainted by public opinion and facts/evidence don't matter.
To WanyeMontgomery, Good citizens would comply, and cooperate when stopped or pulled over by the police.
Free Daniel penny
*Fry Daniel Penny
@@BullyMacguire he deserved to die for yelling??
@@BullyMacguire threatening people gets you the death penalty?? Seems a bit harsh...
@@MaggiesNight lol if you threaten people you shouldn't be surprised if you get killed. What argument are you even trying to make?! lol
I agree, Soldier.
Daniel Penny’s a hero. Wish him the best.
Saved them from nothing. Don't put your hands on anyone unless they did it first to another. Penny would've been in trouble for that alone. Record the incident to have unquestionable proof.
Ppl who literally acted in self defense in immediate responses for their life still get questioned if they took the only best action to defending themselves such as fleeing away.
The U.S. does not advocate for anyone unaliving anyone & considering Penny immediately enacted violence against another first & was the one to approach Neely from behind. Thats plain offensive actions. There's a reason Karen's are recorded & not immediately choked out. You take other measures first other than unaliving them first chance.
No He's Not.
This is nothing but identity politics at the end of the day.
Dammmmm I'm waiting to see comments like this for that serial killer in long island 😮or maybe he was taking out the trash too??? I honestly can't believe I haven't seen nothing derogatory yet but it's still early...... Very sad but it shows how the subconscious mind works scary stuff 😢
Two different things.
lol Jordan Williams stabs a man to death in self-defense... free to go... This makes no sense
Jordan was actually attacked and was in direct contact with the person who assaulted him.
Penny never even spoke to the guy he killed. He was never attacked.
That makes a big difference...
@@MaggiesNight The laws for self defense do not require you to become a victim before you can defend yourself. That's like saying you can't run from a gunman until you get shot in the head.
@DaveSmith-cp5kj He wasn't defending himself. They never even spoke. He just choked a mentally ill person to death...which is why he got arrested....
@@MaggiesNight The laws for self defense do not require you to become a victim before you can defend yourself. That's like saying you can't run from a gunman until you get shot in the head
@DaveSmith-cp5kj
People have shot and killed attackers inside their homes and still gone to prison over it. Ask Britney Smith...
He saw a mentally ill person being loud and strangled him to death. Even when people told him to stop, he didn't...
If you wrap your arm around someone's neck for 4 minutes, you understand what you are doing to the person...
Two wrongs don't make his death right, only legal law, can condemn a person to death. If a Police man/woman of the law cannot strangle an unarmed or a shouting, threatening man to death, nor should the Public; whatever colour, race, profession/veteran or creed you are; this is for any victim or perpetrator.
People cannot just strangle, or suffocate to death a man, woman a child, or a person with mental health issues suspected of a crime; this is very similar to the George Floyd death by strangulation of an unarmed suspect by 4 Police on camera, if nothing is done about it, there will be copy cat strangulation of unarmed suspects, or an innocent person accused and lynched by the public.
Even though I hate all criminals with a deep passion and would like to see the DP in NY made legal. People defending are just dividing community/race/army/ to cause trouble, no veterans are above any Law; all should calm down,stop being emotional and wait for a court case.
He and his friends/public which were 3 to 5 men there could had easily held the unarmed suspect arms, or held him down, until the police came to arrest him; if a Police cannot strangle an unarmed man, no person should be able to.
All should be charged with manslaughter, especially the person that moved the dead insane man arm away, and the others for not intervening to stop the marine strangling the man to death without a trial or a court verdict or a jury sentencing a person to death. Sorry to say this, but the marine was the Judge, Jury and the executioner.P.S. if that dead insane man took out a knife,or a gun I would had agreed with that marine action,or any person protecting lives.
The subway authority should now start having security, cctv on all trains/entrances to evict all unpaying/disturbing, insane passengers, and mad people with mental health issues should now be locked up in a mental health prison to stop these lynching, or future copy cat strangulation, or deadly force by an angry/upset person on an unarmed suspect.
Strangle? Do you think that very basic self defense move Penny performed was "strangling"??
Let's not muddy the waters
The man took the Lord into his own hands and knew the show called could result in death.
He could have fell back from taking it to the point of death.
This is no different than the police officer with the neon. The neck who just went too far.
The man who is homeless and his situation has no bearing. In this matter of bad mountain, him and trying to justify his debt.
The public animosity to a trauma's people is not a justification for his death.
He could have just as easily blocked. The man from approaching other passengers.
It’s completely different and no we don’t take chances with dangerous mental cases, if it had been your mother your daughter on that train you’d do the same thing and if you wouldn’t you don’t deserve to call yourself an American. Americans protect each other they don’t sit back and wait for bad things to happen.
@@g.maynard6937
I have had my share of experiences with bad guys and legally speaking. You're only entitled to stop them in their reactions. And you are not permitted to proceed to the point where they die, so stuff it up your back hole.
And keep yourself righteous comments to yourself.
As a fellow marine I get his eagerness to protect the other passengers.....but as a Black man with a actual sense of honor lol the man wasn't actively hurting anyone and there were multiple non lethal options available to subdue the guy (after all he didnt even have a gun or any weapon), including several other grown men that could've aided in restraining him.
Several other people did restrain him also
Every other person on the train told the police that Neely WAS trying to hurt them. You people need to, for f**king once, have the courage to say "yeah, that guy was a menace and makes my race and species look bad", because he DOES and you're no better by fellating Neely's corpse only because he's black. Also, you didn't serve, so stop saying you did.
stfu. what your thoughts on Jordan Williams? bet its different cause the color of his skin.
So you wanted him to assault an elderly woman before someone stepped in?
Figures.
@@JackTheSkunk EVERY Democrat wanted that to happen. Including Neely's awful family, who have a VERY long and STILL growing rapsheet of doing that to others. Also, the OP never served, just to let you know. #StolenValor
His attorney is trying to taint the pool of potential jurors.
No, that's Neely's.
He made the world a lot safer
Nope!
A trained marine should know it takes 4 seconds to make someone pass out from chokehold
Honestly a blood choke at that, if you’ve ever been had to been put in one during MCMAP
It's clear from the video that Neely is struggling against the choke far longer than that. It might be 4 seconds if the choke is applied cleanly against a victim that is not fighting back and not defending the choke at all.
@@tonyc7301 yep if someone is struggling (gee I don't know why someone would struggle against a choke put on them by surprise) it would take a couple more seconds to pass out???
I'M NOT THE ONLY ONE, THIS "SERGEANT" KNOWS DAMN WELL HE MAKES US ALL LOOK BAD.
I wish I'd known that when I was ambushed from behind, thrown to the ground and viciously raped. It would've spared me all this anger I still carry. Penny helped relieve so many benign citizens assaulted by others for no other reason but knowing they could get away with it.
He caused the death of another person. He does actually need to be held accountable for that.
I agree
So does that mean causing the death of a home intruder means you need to be held accountable for that persons incorrect choice to break into your home?
@@deven3914 depending upon the circumstance. People have been charged for shooting attackers inside of their home while they are attacking someone....ask Brittany Smith....
@@BullyMacguire So, having prior charges makes it ok for someone to strangle you to death?? 🤔
Jordan Neely was a criminal, but he never committed a crime that would get him the death penalty....
He's guilty. He's young but he should of learned years ago keep your hads to yourself. He could have talked to him to distract him. There were so many other options. Also, he's a trained killer why isn't it 1st degree?
That hesitation is the difference between someone dying or not, the dude shouldn’t have put him self in a position where people where literally to afraid to let him go .
I started praying for Mr. Penny as soon as he was indicted by the corrupt, racist and incompetent Alvin Bragg. And I will continue to pray Mr. Penny will be exonerated and be delivered from the clutches of the pathetic, evil, NYC justice system.
How incredibly childish
Yeah that technique we learned in boot is a blood choke designed to take someone out in seconds. Sergeant, you murdered that man.
@@BullyMacguire also him being a Sergeant would mean he is at least a green belt in MCMAP (Marine Corps Martial Arts Program), he looks 1st class PFT/CFT capable, and he's the one who claimed the supposed "technique learned in bootcamp". Like me and at least the platoon I went through with and even my Drill Instructors will tell you for someone of that rank and experience, he could have not killed him.
@@BullyMacguire it'd be different if it was a PTSD epidode but I'm not getting that. I'm open to discuss this lmao I'm bored I just feel like there was so many ways mans could have gone about this given his accolades without taking a life. Regardless of whatever dude's past was.
@@BullyMacguire closing point til you reply or don't: don't get me wrong, I'm not saying he should not have done anything, I mean the situation is clearly messed up, but from my perspective he could have afforded to "handle" dude without killing him. I don't care what anyone says and how out of hand the situation was getting, he was NOT the enemy, just an unstable individual who needed to be regulated real quick, not ended.
@@BullyMacguirehis end was definitively caused by Penny....
Neely would have kept on living had he not been strangled to death....
It's not like he was ODing or on the verge of a heart attack....
It's Penny's fault....
@@BullyMacguire so, if a women is sexually assulted, it's actually HER fault because of how she was dressed??
This is your logic....
Apparently, it's the victims fault in every situation now....
If I get robbed, it's because I kept to much money in my pocket....
If my car gets stolen, it's because my car was to nice and I should have got something cheaper....
If a women gets raped, it's because she was in slutty clothing and was "asking for it"
This is your logic.....
Dude, I'm from NY and I know the laws there, you are going to keep losing this argument....
You gotta love the way his lawyer breaks it down. I was for Penny before they interviewed the lawyer
Wow. Fascinating. This is why we have trials. So you can actually hear all the evidence. You're not doing the work and you're proud of it. And
@@rensinclair4218 hope your for penny. Seems not.
So they dropped the charges for the man who stabbed a guy in self defense on the NY subway.
Who was actually attacked by the guy....
Penny wasn't attacked, he never even spoke to the guy....
Try again
How is he supposed to know the guy has mental illness???
He should've known to keep his hands to himself.😊
@@ClarkKent-ic3pb Who?
All about skin color,if he were black he wouldn't have been charged at all..