I worked there for over 10 years and it was ALWAYS a treat to get to run this engine. While not a powerful as modern engines it always started and was ready to go on a moments notice for a special event or Rail Fair (I survived the 10 year Rail Fare working for sun up to past sun down everyday for 10 days)
Thanks for posting. I'd seen 347C parked in that building on my last visit to the museum, but I would have loved to see it running. As a Warbonnet geek, I also have a jig saw puzzle on my wall depicting 347C (as well as an N scale Super Chief on my model rr layout).
Absolutely gorgeous! Both of them, but particularly Santa Fe 347C! Come Kathryn Farmer, you are the CEO of BNSF. PLEASE bring back the Santa Fe war bonnet and put that name back on freight cars, containers, and especially locomotives.
I know the 347C isn't operational, but it would be nice to see it at least have working cab lighting, headlights, number boards, and marker lights. Perhaps power from the working WP 913 or a generator inside the 347C, the air horn sounds great though!
How do they legaly run this without headlights? I know 347c is just being pushed, but there has to be a way to jumper power from the WP unit to the lead unit to power the lights. Maybe its time for the museum to start fund raising to make 347c functional again.
I wish we knew why they didn't turn the lights. Maybe they felt comfortable with how bright the front of the locomotive in the middle of day. But they should definitely make 347c functional again.
@@RailbrosStudios With grade crossings, the lights should be on per FRA rules, same for the Mars light. Did I see someplace they are working on making her fully operational? If not, why are they not fund raising to get this beauty running on her own power?
Docent here to answer the question! ATSF 347C must be operated only in broad daylight, with a fully certified Brakeman or higher cert in the cab when shoving the unit. The brakes are fully functional, but without the power tie to WP 913, the lights don't work. It is operated with a special order from the FRA, giving authority to proceed at restricted speed, or no faster than can be stopped within half the range if vision when leading. On our line, that equates to 20 mph. As far as the restoration, it is currently 5th in line. We have several projects that take precedence, for example a total overhaul on the 913. Hopefully the warbonnets will be running within the next three years, but who knows
Nice preservations of these engines & coaches. That horn on that Western Pacific sounded awful. 😱 . I was wondering are these FP 9 Engines ? These are slightly to long to be an F 7 to F 9 units. Very good video. 👍🎥🛤️🛤️
Both units are EMD F7A's. Also, WP #913's horn is an old single chime horn which was the standard of first generation diesels of the late 40s and 50s. It wasn't until the late 50s and early 60s that the multi-chime horn became popular with railroads.
Now that it's summer, the Sacramento Southern Railway runs excursions on the weekends. They only take out the F-Units for special occassions unfortunately.
@@RailbrosStudios This is interesting, thanks for the information. I understand that orange flashing lights were also used for these purposes before (in the movie Under Siege 2 I saw diesel locomotives with them on the roof)
@@VeksTrainz I believe (I'm not expert on railroad law) that the bell requirement was much older than the flashing lights -- for instance the bells were used on steam locomotives in the early 1900s. I also believe (again, no expert) that they were required mostly during low-speed operations, when pushing a train, or in rail yards. Someone with greater knowledge feel free to correct me.
I kind of wish that they would add electricity to the lights on 347C that way the engineer can have functioning headlights gyra lights marker lights and lit boards 347C is the only Santa Fe F7 that has the Santa Fe style rotating Gyra light that rotated on the outer diameter of the light holder above the headlight it’s possible that you can connect the MU hoses and electrical hoses supplied from the western Pacific F unit to power all the electronics and all the lights
This has been explained by a docent in another comment. He writes, "ATSF 347C must be operated only in broad daylight, with a fully certified Brakeman or higher cert in the cab when shoving the unit. The brakes are fully functional, but without the power tie to WP 913, the lights don't work. It is operated with a special order from the FRA, giving authority to proceed at restricted speed, or no faster than can be stopped within half the range if vision when leading. On our line, that equates to 20 mph."
Being a locomotive engineer for over 19 years, I always enjoy when I here rules being quoted. The point I was trying to make is "IF" there were to be a grade crossing accident regardless of operating under rule 6.27 or 6.28 (Movement at Restricted Speed or Movement on Other than Main Track) per 49 CFR 229.125 "Headlights and auxillary lights"; it "could" turn into a sticky situation. Several years ago I had a "severly impaired" driver run the gates and wedge her car under the fuel tank of the SOO 1528. I thought it was funny as hell because this chick could barely stand and was yelling at me saying "you need to move the damn train!". It took two tow trucks to get her car out from under the fuel tank. Her attorney tried arguing that I did not blow the horn to provide sufficient warning to his client. The best part was we were stopped on the crossing with the crossing lights and gates active waiting for my conductor to throw a switch at an industry when she hit us! They then tried to argue the "headlight" was not properly displayed making it more "difficult" for her to see the "big orange and black" locomotive sitting there! It doesn't take much for a lawsuit. @@RailbrosStudios
347C wasn't originally a warbonnet. She was painted in an hybrid scheme of the warbonnet/freight scheme. Chrome sides with a yellow band. It wasn't until she arrived at the museum that she was painted to look like a warbonnet.
@@RailbrosStudios yeah I think they brought it from a company and painted it the traditional colors and added a special horn but yeah there are no surviving original units that would be insane if there was but nope all of them died in the past
@@IceFoxTrainSpotting During the 40's and 50's diesel locomotives used single chime air horns. It wasn't till the late 50's that multichime air horns were used.
As far as appearance is concerned, 347C looks FANTASTIC!
Indeed
Yes Santa Fe 306C!!!
❤love the sound of the horn and Bell on old Santa Fe❤🔔 train
indeed
Pretty cool to see a Santa Fe f unit running today
Indeed
Those are some great trains. And a great city. Best city in California.
I remember these from childhood. I have them in HO scale.
Cool!
The Red Santa Fe is beautiful!
Indeed
Great catch with these classy ladies
Thanks!
347C's horn is absolutely incredible
913 sounds like my phone vibrating at times (but when the horn works it sounds great)
ı just love the growling of these engines👏👍♥️🎖️
So do we!
Awesome!
Thanks!
The Western Pacific 913 uses the Leslie type horn which was used back in the 1950's until some F7s were retired in the past.
beautiful video,thanks a lot for sharing 👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍
you're welcome
I don't think there's a diesel locomotive in the world more iconic than the Santa Fe warbonnet F units. It's so cool to see one still operating.
Indeed!
My favorite paint scheme of them all. Santa Fe. When I think of trains, this is the locomotive I imagine. The F's are beautiful and sleek.
The Santa Fe definitely had an amazing passenger scheme. The warbonnet F-unit truly became an icon.
My very first HO scale model train set had a pair of F units, and I LOVED them! @@RailbrosStudios
@@ManiacRacing Cool!
Love those F units!!!!!
We do too!
6:10 Beautiful rs5t ❤
I worked there for over 10 years and it was ALWAYS a treat to get to run this engine. While not a powerful as modern engines it always started and was ready to go on a moments notice for a special event or Rail Fair (I survived the 10 year Rail Fare working for sun up to past sun down everyday for 10 days)
Nice. 😀
Thanks!
#913's horn sounds like a fart at the beginning. It was so funny!
11:17 this part made me laugh
Us too.
the best toys
Thanks for posting.
I'd seen 347C parked in that building on my last visit to the museum, but I would have loved to see it running. As a Warbonnet geek, I also have a jig saw puzzle on my wall depicting 347C (as well as an N scale Super Chief on my model rr layout).
Cool!
Nice video
Thanks!
Absolutely gorgeous! Both of them, but particularly Santa Fe 347C! Come Kathryn Farmer, you are the CEO of BNSF. PLEASE bring back the Santa Fe war bonnet and put that name back on freight cars, containers, and especially locomotives.
I wouldn’t mind seeing 347C mated to FP45 108, right behind 4-8-4 2926 on a long passenger consist! Beautiful!
Of course I definitely would enjoy seeing brand new ET44ACs and SD70ACE-T4s in both the blue and yellow and red and silver war bonnets!
With SANTA FE on the locomotives, not BNSF!
These were the diesels that first replaced the steam engines
Yes
I know the 347C isn't operational, but it would be nice to see it at least have working cab lighting, headlights, number boards, and marker lights. Perhaps power from the working WP 913 or a generator inside the 347C, the air horn sounds great though!
ATSF 306C 👍🏻👍🏻
8:26 BOGH! BOGH!
8:35 BOGH! BOGH!
The most beautiful locomotive in the world. Is there an update as of today in terms of it being operational on its own?
Not sure. You'd have to ask a volunteer at the California State Railroad Museum.
Santa Fe like Santa 🎅
How do they legaly run this without headlights? I know 347c is just being pushed, but there has to be a way to jumper power from the WP unit to the lead unit to power the lights. Maybe its time for the museum to start fund raising to make 347c functional again.
I wish we knew why they didn't turn the lights. Maybe they felt comfortable with how bright the front of the locomotive in the middle of day. But they should definitely make 347c functional again.
@@RailbrosStudios With grade crossings, the lights should be on per FRA rules, same for the Mars light. Did I see someplace they are working on making her fully operational? If not, why are they not fund raising to get this beauty running on her own power?
@@artfulldodger5597 I'm not sure.
Docent here to answer the question!
ATSF 347C must be operated only in broad daylight, with a fully certified Brakeman or higher cert in the cab when shoving the unit. The brakes are fully functional, but without the power tie to WP 913, the lights don't work. It is operated with a special order from the FRA, giving authority to proceed at restricted speed, or no faster than can be stopped within half the range if vision when leading. On our line, that equates to 20 mph.
As far as the restoration, it is currently 5th in line. We have several projects that take precedence, for example a total overhaul on the 913. Hopefully the warbonnets will be running within the next three years, but who knows
Picky aren't we? Patience grasshopper.
Nice preservations of these engines & coaches. That horn on that Western Pacific sounded awful. 😱 . I was wondering are these FP 9 Engines ? These are slightly to long to be an F 7 to F 9 units. Very good video. 👍🎥🛤️🛤️
Both units are EMD F7A's. Also, WP #913's horn is an old single chime horn which was the standard of first generation diesels of the late 40s and 50s. It wasn't until the late 50s and early 60s that the multi-chime horn became popular with railroads.
How often does that train run through there
Now that it's summer, the Sacramento Southern Railway runs excursions on the weekends. They only take out the F-Units for special occassions unfortunately.
Ok thanks!
@@kirkcoatsccc594 You're welcome!
Guy wearing hat at 2:27 obviously not a fan of trains....😂
Probably lol
11:25 what kind of horn is this?
Probably a Leslie single chime typhoon air horn.
Far out!,0:17😊
Why are there bells on these locomotives?
American locomotives are required by law to have bells and horns for safety.
@@RailbrosStudios This is interesting, thanks for the information. I understand that orange flashing lights were also used for these purposes before (in the movie Under Siege 2 I saw diesel locomotives with them on the roof)
@@VeksTrainz I believe (I'm not expert on railroad law) that the bell requirement was much older than the flashing lights -- for instance the bells were used on steam locomotives in the early 1900s. I also believe (again, no expert) that they were required mostly during low-speed operations, when pushing a train, or in rail yards.
Someone with greater knowledge feel free to correct me.
@@FreihEitnertrains have pretty much always had bells, even in the 1800s
What a treat to see these beautiful units - and so spotless! Bright and shiny as a new penny. But gee, that WP horn truly sucks. :) No offense.
I kind of wish that they would add electricity to the lights on 347C that way the engineer can have functioning headlights gyra lights marker lights and lit boards 347C is the only Santa Fe F7 that has the Santa Fe style rotating Gyra light that rotated on the outer diameter of the light holder above the headlight it’s possible that you can connect the MU hoses and electrical hoses supplied from the western Pacific F unit to power all the electronics and all the lights
😀😀😀😀
👍
I'm pretty sure the FRA might have a something to say for going over public crossings with out the headlight turned on (GCOR 5.9)!
This has been explained by a docent in another comment. He writes, "ATSF 347C must be operated only in broad daylight, with a fully certified Brakeman or higher cert in the cab when shoving the unit. The brakes are fully functional, but without the power tie to WP 913, the lights don't work. It is operated with a special order from the FRA, giving authority to proceed at restricted speed, or no faster than can be stopped within half the range if vision when leading. On our line, that equates to 20 mph."
Being a locomotive engineer for over 19 years, I always enjoy when I here rules being quoted. The point I was trying to make is "IF" there were to be a grade crossing accident regardless of operating under rule 6.27 or 6.28 (Movement at Restricted Speed or Movement on Other than Main Track) per 49 CFR 229.125 "Headlights and auxillary lights"; it "could" turn into a sticky situation. Several years ago I had a "severly impaired" driver run the gates and wedge her car under the fuel tank of the SOO 1528. I thought it was funny as hell because this chick could barely stand and was yelling at me saying "you need to move the damn train!". It took two tow trucks to get her car out from under the fuel tank. Her attorney tried arguing that I did not blow the horn to provide sufficient warning to his client. The best part was we were stopped on the crossing with the crossing lights and gates active waiting for my conductor to throw a switch at an industry when she hit us! They then tried to argue the "headlight" was not properly displayed making it more "difficult" for her to see the "big orange and black" locomotive sitting there! It doesn't take much for a lawsuit. @@RailbrosStudios
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The Santa Fe looks fantastic, but it cannot operate under its own power?
I believe that it's engine is currently inoperable, but they plan to fix it.
*According to Santa Fe there are no original F unit surviving that is a re-creation*
347C wasn't originally a warbonnet. She was painted in an hybrid scheme of the warbonnet/freight scheme. Chrome sides with a yellow band. It wasn't until she arrived at the museum that she was painted to look like a warbonnet.
@@RailbrosStudios yeah I think they brought it from a company and painted it the traditional colors and added a special horn but yeah there are no surviving original units that would be insane if there was but nope all of them died in the past
@@RailbrosStudios
11:21 *is it me or does that sound like a old school semi truck horn* 🤣
@@IceFoxTrainSpotting During the 40's and 50's diesel locomotives used single chime air horns. It wasn't till the late 50's that multichime air horns were used.
@@RailbrosStudios it's just funny it sounds like a truck air horn 😂
I dont like the horn on 913
Those old air horns sound like ships
That was the initial idea for those horns
Yeah, not a fan of the very flat sounding air horns. The one on the AT&SF unit is so much more pleasant.
@@FreihEitner fax
Nesrly every diesel until the mid-50s were delivered with that horn
@@mikehawk2003even the GG1s had those horns
That is a shame to have a horn like thst lol!
Emd 347c