You should do Operation Tea Ball. It's what dramatically altered the kill ratio for the last 5 months of the Vietnam air war.. It was a command post that gathered information in real time from all surveillance and intelligence sources on the location of Migs. Starting in Aug 1972, USAF pilots got a briefing on UHF radioes before ingressing into North Vietnam on the location of all Migs. The US kill ratio for Migcap F-4s rose to 13-1!!! ... It wasn't the gun or improved dogfight training that increased the kill ratio, but rather a massive increase in Situational Awareness that Tea Ball afforded USAF pilots.
I often show your videos to my elderly Vietnamese relatives living in Hanoi. They are very open minded and appreciate the unbiased work your team has provided to something they have never been able to visually comprehend. My father's favorite video of yours is the Operation Linebacker 2 video, since he was a child who experienced it back in '72!
@@Nightdiver20 Forgive but not forget. Our ancestors fought for more than 1000+ years to keep the land of Vietnam, so now we reflect from various wars from the past and trying our best from involving in any conflicts
@@tranxuanminh4623 hahaha, I totally get that. I was just wondering if they looked back on it as a great victory, a tragic loss of life, both? Good to know, though. I'd love to visit one day
@@Nightdiver20 Many from the south moved to the US and became model citizens, the ones who remained suffered economic hardship for years as well as a war with China, today they're more stable, it's a shame it happened in the first place as the Vietnamese would make great allies to the US, personally I blame the French but it is what it is.
i had a chance to meet Col Nguyễn Nhật Chiêu in 2013, 2 years before his death in 2015. A humble man with a great sense of humor, always praised USAF pilots as "experienced and tough bastards in the sky"
@@aarongoleman well what can you do? you don't get to choose which period you get born in sadly. At least he lived long enough to see the peace, not many people who fought can see what happen after.
Those Vietnamese pilots had balls of lead, going against the most powerful airforce in the world against overwhelming numbers and superior planes/weapons
@@dindrmindr626you can do that or subscribe but if you get bombarded which TH-cam often does, then select do not recommend Channel but it will still show up on your subscription feed. You can always go directly to the channel from there and pick which videos you want to watch put them on your watch later feed. That's what I do in a lot of cases. Ytub give you "short time" or some time "long time".😂
It's amazing how much the Vietnamese accomplished with limited resources. It takes guts to fly against a massive formation of USAF aircraft like that. There aren't a lot of jet aces in history. The Vietnamese pilots were truly amongst the best ever.
@mikedesanta4612 I mean,given who they're up against,it's no wonder, the US has enough funds to train its pilots thousands of times over,the US doesn't HAVE rookie pilots.
They were fighting the best of the best soldiers in the world. So they have to fight with their best efforts. They learn from experience with the Chinese, Mongolian, Japanese, French and USA.
This is the danger of underestimating your opposition. The West are guilty of this because they are spoiled by their technological success, therefore too privileged. This creates the illusion that a defeat seem impossible.
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I love showing these videos to my elderly grandfather. He got dementia a few years ago (at least we think so) so when it comes time to insert or remove his feeding tube, it's calming to put these videos on so he doesn't fight the straps or bite our hands 😅 he likes to say if he gets free he'll put the tube in our anuses to see how we like it but usually after we get it in & play a couple hours of videos for him he settles down. Glad you also enjoy them!
Heavily recommend visiting the National Air and Space Museum, Just bring good walking shoes and be prepared to be on your feet all day! That's unless you take a break at the built in Imax Theater. And you can't forget the overpriced astronaut ice cream in the gift shop! Ok I'll stop this is sounding too much like an ad.
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The Vietnam War is always portrayed in pop culture as this low tech affair with US GIs trudging through rice fields fighting VC guerrillas in straw hats. But there was this other side to the war with high-intensity combat between organized conventional militaries. Aside from Herzog’s excellent Rescue Dawn (2006), I don’t think any major films have portrayed the air war over Vietnam, and even that one was only about the US air to ground operations early on.
@@s.a928 Many were actually in the south against the regular PAVN military. Especially after the Tet Offensive, the Viet Cong were largely destroyed as a military force.
not just the air war.. the PAVN in Central Vietnam and Laos had a fair amount of tanks and artilleries, as well as a sophisticated logistics network hidden in the jungle, which came as a nasty surprise for the South Vietnamese force during the Lam Son 719 Campaign. though tbf, the North Vietnamese government themselves loved the image of the "farmer-soldier", as it was powerful propaganda for the "People's War". In fact, even for the air war, the stories of famer-militants armed with rifles/light machine guns shot down US aircraft during their divebomb were celebrated and even made into songs in Vietnam.
I had to call my grandpa right after watching this. He had 170+ mission on EC-121s over there, over 5 tours. I wanted to see if he could have been flying the 121 in this video. He had rotated back to the US in July of 67 so he missed it by a few weeks. Having said that, the picture you used is of Tripple Nickle. The 121 at Wright-Pat. We have family phones of my grandpa with that plane down in Panama at some point.
It's always great stuff to scroll down a historical video and find relatives of those connected in one way or another,and its second only to the actual people who were there themselves talking about their experiences,regardless of what was being done by said involved person.
They lost essentially every battle and had 1-40 k ratio. The North did very little that resembled winning and were only saved by political squabbling and hippies.
@@PenskePC17Americans somehow always forgot to count the losses of South Vietnamese (which did majority of the fighting), Koreans, Australians and your other allies. USA did not fight any war alone. K:D is closer than you think, for a force with so much technological superiority.
@bhl9532 "the US doesn't fight any war alone" is probably the biggest cope going today when it comes to this topic. The amount of personal us allies typically contributes is entirely negligible and would only make sense as an argument if the contributing numbers wasn't 10x by the extra troops the US had available to them. You're acting like the US couldn't actively fight 3 other wars while Korea and Vietnam were going on... and no, the north got straight up smoked militarily considering the defensive position more than made up for any technological advantages or size difference. Also the battles the South lost? Should we also count the battles China lost to Japan in ww2? Get out of here with that nonsense. 🤣
I like how the comments under this video are from grandchildren or friends of both the Vietnamese and American pilots who were involved in these events. Imagine how wholesome it could be if we can actually create a community that can bring these former enemies together as old folks who can just talk and share their perspectives. They don't have much time left anyway.
I can't imagine how difficult life must have been for the Vietnamese pilots considering the massive disparity they had to face in terms of equipment. The fact that they did their duty and still managed to be a huge threat to their opponents is a testament to their bravery and skill.
Coming from china, I know the power of indoctrination and propaganda. I grew up only learning how heroic chinese soldiers took out American tanks using satchel charges,and how American imperialists cowardly ran away. It's not until I got the good fortune to study in the US did I learn that the chinese army in Korea suffered 8 to 10x the casualties. It made a lot of sense when you are trying to swarm tanks using soldiers with satchel charges, but we didn't think of it because we were not taught to think independently.
@@xiphoid2011Well then what you were taught is not false is it? The Chinese Army in Korea figuratively fought with sticks and stones against knights covered head to toe in steel plating. So yes of course more of them died. Same with the Vietnamese but they won. But now the Chinese Army has everything the Americans have, how do you think this will end up if the two meet again?
Thanks for another piece of history most of us don't know about! I was 7 in 1967 eating Honeycomb cereal and watching Saturday morning cartoons, listening to The Beatles 45's and seeing the headlines in the Washington Post but oblivious to the big picture. Bravo Zulu!
Can confirm, Vo Nguyen Giap is the best known example of this specific pronunciation. Anyways, does that also mean that the Russian Z soldier is the modern GI? 😂
one day I'll be able to watch your entire channel without being bored. one day , i'll understand the army movement on the maps thing. maybe when im at that dad phase. but one day
You should do Operation Tea Ball. It's what dramatically altered the kill ratio for the last 5 months of the Vietnam air war.. It was a command post that gathered information in real time from all surveillance and intelligence sources on the location of Migs. Starting in Aug 1972, USAF pilots got a briefing on UHF radioes before ingressing into North Vietnam on the location of all Migs. The US kill ratio for Migcap F-4s rose to 13-1!!! ... It wasn't the gun or improved dogfight training that increased the kill ratio, but rather a massive increase in Situational Awareness that Tea Ball afforded USAF pilots.
Yes, SA is important, especially since the USAF brass 'de-emphasized' air to air combat in between Rolling Thunder and Linebacker because 'it was too dangerous' to learn how to push a plane to it's limits (nevermind silly stuff like dodging SAMs or pulling lotsa Gs to get on the tail of a bandit). Combine that with the F4's rather crappy radio AND the very cluttered airwaves with hundreds of aircraft all over Southeast Asia all using the same channel to communicate, along with the 'promoting of pilots out of transport and tanker aircraft into the cockpits of F4s headed for the deadliest piece of airspace in the world---sounds like a recipe for trouble.FORTUNATELY, later in the war, the 'higher ups' allowed experienced pilots (and in some cases, experienced squadrons) back into theater as well as resolving the SA issue. Ed Rasimus called it 'pilots flying fighters vs fighter pilots'.
@@777Outrigger yes; everything go 'decluttered' and instead of all the agencies guarding their turf, they decide to cooperate and share info in real time. Somebody somewhere decided to take steps to (thank you R Lee) 'unf/k things'. Most of what I know about the NVN airwar is from Marshall Michel's book 'clashes' as well as his 'Eleven Days of Christmas'.
that's full of western propaganda crap. the total of Migs North Viet Nam ever received from the USSR was never more than 200 jets, where do you get all the 13-1 kill ratio while North Viet Nam produced 8 fighter aces vs 1 for the American air force who has been training for life.
The level of details and animation is incredible. Although I would like clearer colors of the planes. I understand it may be for historical accuracy, but sometimes visibility may be more important.
The ending part: "...permission was given to finally attack..." the airfield the enemy had been launching fighters from for who knows how long WHILE YOUR OWN PLANES WERE BEING SHOT AT!
It’s absurd that it took until almost 1973 for Nixon to finally release B-52s to attack NV. We pussy-footed for seven years with the casualties to prove it. And once the NV saw what the B-52s could do, they came to the negotiating table. There is a common misconception that we hammered the North for years and years but the political leadership was more interested in sending messages than winning.
Can y'all do a video on the Battle of Jutland. Would love to see you're animation of the battle. The Battle of Jutland has a lot of time-stamped from each ship in battle. I think it would for an awesome video.
When Thunder Rolled is a great book written first hand by a Thud pilot who did Wild Weasel work. His follow up Palace Cobra highlights more examples of "the left hand not talking to the right hand" that they had to deal with on these ops.
3:22 That’s my uncle on the left with Olds. His name was William “Bill” Kirk and he splashed two MIG-21s during his tour in country. Kirk retired a 4 star general. I have his helmet he wore during his time there. 13:47 Bill with Olds again sharing a laugh after a successful mission. I believe it was the BOLO mission this video is from. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_L._Kirk
It’s actually pronounced “noo-wen,” not “en-gui-yen.” Fantastic video as per usual, keep it up! Maybe one on the Son Tay Raid soon? Unless you did one and I just missed it 😂
@@Xiodot I understand, I have patreon as well. Comment over there. Didn't say so. Let them answer for that. I just like these comments that predetermine a video before they ever watch it.
@@PhantomCatGame nothing outside the fact you didn't watch all of it before saying it was great That's all. Normally you watch all of it and then comment on its content or quality.
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Can you make a video on World War 1
@@Randomdude112 which part lol
@@derrickstorm6976 the aerial war, bloody April, etc
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You should do Operation Tea Ball. It's what dramatically altered the kill ratio for the last 5 months of the Vietnam air war.. It was a command post that gathered information in real time from all surveillance and intelligence sources on the location of Migs. Starting in Aug 1972, USAF pilots got a briefing on UHF radioes before ingressing into North Vietnam on the location of all Migs. The US kill ratio for Migcap F-4s rose to 13-1!!! ... It wasn't the gun or improved dogfight training that increased the kill ratio, but rather a massive increase in Situational Awareness that Tea Ball afforded USAF pilots.
I often show your videos to my elderly Vietnamese relatives living in Hanoi. They are very open minded and appreciate the unbiased work your team has provided to something they have never been able to visually comprehend. My father's favorite video of yours is the Operation Linebacker 2 video, since he was a child who experienced it back in '72!
How do the Vietnamese look back on the war?
@@Nightdiver20 Forgive but not forget. Our ancestors fought for more than 1000+ years to keep the land of Vietnam, so now we reflect from various wars from the past and trying our best from involving in any conflicts
@@tranxuanminh4623 hahaha, I totally get that. I was just wondering if they looked back on it as a great victory, a tragic loss of life, both?
Good to know, though. I'd love to visit one day
Thumbs down 👎😊
@@Nightdiver20 Many from the south moved to the US and became model citizens, the ones who remained suffered economic hardship for years as well as a war with China, today they're more stable, it's a shame it happened in the first place as the Vietnamese would make great allies to the US, personally I blame the French but it is what it is.
i had a chance to meet Col Nguyễn Nhật Chiêu in 2013, 2 years before his death in 2015. A humble man with a great sense of humor, always praised USAF pilots as "experienced and tough bastards in the sky"
I met Van Bay a few years before he died
Asked him as well about American pilots
Talent and Outrageous Courage
sucks he lived through the war
@aarongoleman You lost, fucking Yankee, get over it.
@@aarongoleman well what can you do? you don't get to choose which period you get born in sadly. At least he lived long enough to see the peace, not many people who fought can see what happen after.
Those Vietnamese pilots had balls of lead, going against the most powerful airforce in the world against overwhelming numbers and superior planes/weapons
TH-cam algos need to pay attention to this excellent channel instead of sending me random video recommendations. Liking and commenting for engagement.
@@dindrmindr626 long time subscriber to this and the Intel Report. Just putting this to help the channel (like the channel mentioned in the comment).
@@dindrmindr626you can do that or subscribe but if you get bombarded which TH-cam often does, then select do not recommend Channel but it will still show up on your subscription feed. You can always go directly to the channel from there and pick which videos you want to watch put them on your watch later feed. That's what I do in a lot of cases. Ytub give you "short time" or some time "long time".😂
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Nope their more focused on censoring mean comments.
It's amazing how much the Vietnamese accomplished with limited resources. It takes guts to fly against a massive formation of USAF aircraft like that. There aren't a lot of jet aces in history. The Vietnamese pilots were truly amongst the best ever.
The experienced ones. The rookies had a baptism of fire.
@mikedesanta4612 I mean,given who they're up against,it's no wonder, the US has enough funds to train its pilots thousands of times over,the US doesn't HAVE rookie pilots.
They were fighting the best of the best soldiers in the world. So they have to fight with their best efforts. They learn from experience with the Chinese, Mongolian, Japanese, French and USA.
This is the danger of underestimating your opposition. The West are guilty of this because they are spoiled by their technological success, therefore too privileged. This creates the illusion that a defeat seem impossible.
Limited? Your kidding right?
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The operations room... The perfect balance between detailed history and good narration. Lovely work!
I love showing these videos to my elderly grandfather. He got dementia a few years ago (at least we think so) so when it comes time to insert or remove his feeding tube, it's calming to put these videos on so he doesn't fight the straps or bite our hands 😅 he likes to say if he gets free he'll put the tube in our anuses to see how we like it but usually after we get it in & play a couple hours of videos for him he settles down. Glad you also enjoy them!
If anyone ever goes to Dayton Ohio. Visit the air museum and you can see Robin olds actual F4 Phantom.
Wait I've been there twice. I didn't know it was his phantom
That's cool as hell!
It's basically a shrine to Olds, with his actual Phantom jet as the center piece. A great exhibit in a great museum.
They also just got a flanker
Heavily recommend visiting the National Air and Space Museum, Just bring good walking shoes and be prepared to be on your feet all day! That's unless you take a break at the built in Imax Theater. And you can't forget the overpriced astronaut ice cream in the gift shop! Ok I'll stop this is sounding too much like an ad.
THANK YOU THANK YOU! i had no idea this existed, planning a trip with my gf soon. you just made a autistic air plane nerd very happy. have a blessed day my friend
The Vietnam War is always portrayed in pop culture as this low tech affair with US GIs trudging through rice fields fighting VC guerrillas in straw hats. But there was this other side to the war with high-intensity combat between organized conventional militaries.
Aside from Herzog’s excellent Rescue Dawn (2006), I don’t think any major films have portrayed the air war over Vietnam, and even that one was only about the US air to ground operations early on.
Well to be fair to pop culture most land engagements were in the south with the VC guerillas so they aren’t entirely wrong if you think about it.
@@s.a928Most of the conventional battle is between the NVA and the RVNA
@@s.a928 Many were actually in the south against the regular PAVN military. Especially after the Tet Offensive, the Viet Cong were largely destroyed as a military force.
not just the air war.. the PAVN in Central Vietnam and Laos had a fair amount of tanks and artilleries, as well as a sophisticated logistics network hidden in the jungle, which came as a nasty surprise for the South Vietnamese force during the Lam Son 719 Campaign.
though tbf, the North Vietnamese government themselves loved the image of the "farmer-soldier", as it was powerful propaganda for the "People's War". In fact, even for the air war, the stories of famer-militants armed with rifles/light machine guns shot down US aircraft during their divebomb were celebrated and even made into songs in Vietnam.
@@s.a928 It’s not that the portrayal is wrong, but rather that it’s somewhat incomplete.
I had to call my grandpa right after watching this. He had 170+ mission on EC-121s over there, over 5 tours. I wanted to see if he could have been flying the 121 in this video. He had rotated back to the US in July of 67 so he missed it by a few weeks.
Having said that, the picture you used is of Tripple Nickle. The 121 at Wright-Pat. We have family phones of my grandpa with that plane down in Panama at some point.
It's always great stuff to scroll down a historical video and find relatives of those connected in one way or another,and its second only to the actual people who were there themselves talking about their experiences,regardless of what was being done by said involved person.
Great video! It seems the Vietnamese were pretty bright and resourceful to pull off such a victory against a much better trained and equipped foe.
Vietnamese? Which Vietnamese?
You are aware the PAVN was highly equipped and trained right?
They lost essentially every battle and had 1-40 k ratio. The North did very little that resembled winning and were only saved by political squabbling and hippies.
@@PenskePC17Americans somehow always forgot to count the losses of South Vietnamese (which did majority of the fighting), Koreans, Australians and your other allies. USA did not fight any war alone. K:D is closer than you think, for a force with so much technological superiority.
@bhl9532 "the US doesn't fight any war alone" is probably the biggest cope going today when it comes to this topic. The amount of personal us allies typically contributes is entirely negligible and would only make sense as an argument if the contributing numbers wasn't 10x by the extra troops the US had available to them. You're acting like the US couldn't actively fight 3 other wars while Korea and Vietnam were going on... and no, the north got straight up smoked militarily considering the defensive position more than made up for any technological advantages or size difference.
Also the battles the South lost? Should we also count the battles China lost to Japan in ww2? Get out of here with that nonsense. 🤣
Hit the like button and left a comment, you guys deserve the algorithm for the quality work you do
I will watch literally everything you put out. Have watched your entire catalog. Keep up the great work team!
I like how the comments under this video are from grandchildren or friends of both the Vietnamese and American pilots who were involved in these events.
Imagine how wholesome it could be if we can actually create a community that can bring these former enemies together as old folks who can just talk and share their perspectives. They don't have much time left anyway.
Thanks for the incredible work putting these together!
I can't imagine how difficult life must have been for the Vietnamese pilots considering the massive disparity they had to face in terms of equipment. The fact that they did their duty and still managed to be a huge threat to their opponents is a testament to their bravery and skill.
Coming from china, I know the power of indoctrination and propaganda. I grew up only learning how heroic chinese soldiers took out American tanks using satchel charges,and how American imperialists cowardly ran away. It's not until I got the good fortune to study in the US did I learn that the chinese army in Korea suffered 8 to 10x the casualties. It made a lot of sense when you are trying to swarm tanks using soldiers with satchel charges, but we didn't think of it because we were not taught to think independently.
@@xiphoid2011glad that you were taught common sense in the west chief
@@xiphoid2011Well then what you were taught is not false is it?
The Chinese Army in Korea figuratively fought with sticks and stones against knights covered head to toe in steel plating. So yes of course more of them died. Same with the Vietnamese but they won.
But now the Chinese Army has everything the Americans have, how do you think this will end up if the two meet again?
@@xiphoid2011 did you not consider the possibility the westerners are also lying about the numbers?
@@daniels0376 Do they? Have you missed the recent corruption scandal? China is looking more and more like a paper tiger nowadays. I thin
Loving this series, my grandfather was heavily involved in these missions! At the time he was an F-105 pilot, Captain Chester Griffin
@@casegriffin2205 your grandfather is an American hero. The air was an extremely dangerous place to be in Vietnam.
Love it. Great coverage and production values
I never knew there was any air force action above Vietnam that didn’t involve hueys playing fortunate son until I started watching this channel.
As always, what a very well made documentary on this operation. Adding the context is awesome.
Love your work. Always top notch.
Very interesting. I had never heard of this battle. Well done to the Vietnamese defending their country. Thanks for the video.
@minsapint defending against the American imperialist aggressor
@@AAAAAA-tj1nq Ah, it's the communists scoundrels that invaded South Vietnam. Your telling is nonsense.
Vietnamese? Which one?
@@AAAAAA-tj1nqand now they're partners with the imperialist oppressor 😂
@@economiccrisis9267 partner in what? Military? It is the red veitnamese who fought against both French and American illegal occupiers
The production quality on these has become insanely good!
This is my favorite channel on TH-cam. You guys rock.
Appreciate more videos of traditional “OPFORs”. It gives an interesting perspective.
I think I've seen every video this awesome team has put out since the channel started. I've loved every one. Thank you!
These vids are always very clear and high quality
Awesome and informative, thank you for your hard work to make these videos
Thanks for another piece of history most of us don't know about! I was 7 in 1967 eating Honeycomb cereal and watching Saturday morning cartoons, listening to The Beatles 45's and seeing the headlines in the Washington Post but oblivious to the big picture. Bravo Zulu!
now, we discuss here and the world is still war
Great video. Robin Oldes was a great foghter pilot. His book is one of the best books I've ever read.
FYI: The first North Vietnamese air force unit was established in February 1964, just three and a half years before this event.
Saw the notification. Did not even hesitate to click like
Another great vid. Clear and concise descriptions as always.
Thanks for all the work you put into these.
Engagement for the algo. Love this channel.
FYI, Gia Lam airbase should be pronounced as "Za Lam", not "Gear Lam" since in Vietnamese, when G next to I, them together make the sound Z
Interesting
They make a Y sound in the Southern accent
Can confirm, Vo Nguyen Giap is the best known example of this specific pronunciation.
Anyways, does that also mean that the Russian Z soldier is the modern GI? 😂
Loving the Vietnam videos. Keep them coming!
one day
I'll be able to watch your entire channel without being bored.
one day , i'll understand the army movement on the maps thing.
maybe when im at that dad phase.
but one day
You should do Operation Tea Ball. It's what dramatically altered the kill ratio for the last 5 months of the Vietnam air war.. It was a command post that gathered information in real time from all surveillance and intelligence sources on the location of Migs. Starting in Aug 1972, USAF pilots got a briefing on UHF radioes before ingressing into North Vietnam on the location of all Migs. The US kill ratio for Migcap F-4s rose to 13-1!!! ... It wasn't the gun or improved dogfight training that increased the kill ratio, but rather a massive increase in Situational Awareness that Tea Ball afforded USAF pilots.
Yes, SA is important, especially since the USAF brass 'de-emphasized' air to air combat in between Rolling Thunder and Linebacker because 'it was too dangerous' to learn how to push a plane to it's limits (nevermind silly stuff like dodging SAMs or pulling lotsa Gs to get on the tail of a bandit). Combine that with the F4's rather crappy radio AND the very cluttered airwaves with hundreds of aircraft all over Southeast Asia all using the same channel to communicate, along with the 'promoting of pilots out of transport and tanker aircraft into the cockpits of F4s headed for the deadliest piece of airspace in the world---sounds like a recipe for trouble.FORTUNATELY, later in the war, the 'higher ups' allowed experienced pilots (and in some cases, experienced squadrons) back into theater as well as resolving the SA issue. Ed Rasimus called it 'pilots flying fighters vs fighter pilots'.
@@nickmitsialis SA is not important, it's everything. And Tea Ball had it's own frequency.
@@777Outrigger yes; everything go 'decluttered' and instead of all the agencies guarding their turf, they decide to cooperate and share info in real time. Somebody somewhere decided to take steps to (thank you R Lee) 'unf/k things'. Most of what I know about the NVN airwar is from Marshall Michel's book 'clashes' as well as his 'Eleven Days of Christmas'.
that's full of western propaganda crap. the total of Migs North Viet Nam ever received from the USSR was never more than 200 jets, where do you get all the 13-1 kill ratio while North Viet Nam produced 8 fighter aces vs 1 for the American air force who has been training for life.
Source?
Love this channel
The level of details and animation is incredible.
Although I would like clearer colors of the planes. I understand it may be for historical accuracy, but sometimes visibility may be more important.
Great work as per usual. Glad you picked out an engagement here that provides additional context to earlier work.
Been watching for a long time but I have to say your voice is amazing and so calming. I'd love to see audio books from you or something similar.
Would love to see proper movie about Olds, that man was a legend.
spectacular work as always
The ending part: "...permission was given to finally attack..." the airfield the enemy had been launching fighters from for who knows how long WHILE YOUR OWN PLANES WERE BEING SHOT AT!
It’s absurd that it took until almost 1973 for Nixon to finally release B-52s to attack NV.
We pussy-footed for seven years with the casualties to prove it.
And once the NV saw what the B-52s could do, they came to the negotiating table.
There is a common misconception that we hammered the North for years and years but the political leadership was more interested in sending messages than winning.
Robin olds was a badass
These are very good history documentary video
Answering to your favor (🇺🇸) asked but also love all your docs and TIR, binge watched them when I was sick a few weeks ago
Can y'all do a video on the Battle of Jutland. Would love to see you're animation of the battle. The Battle of Jutland has a lot of time-stamped from each ship in battle. I think it would for an awesome video.
A comment to help boost this wonderful channel's success.
Remember when the operations room used to make videos about ground warfare
76, well, 77 comments and more than 8k visuals in one hour! Well done, and a fully deserved achievement! Good job!
When Thunder Rolled is a great book written first hand by a Thud pilot who did Wild Weasel work. His follow up Palace Cobra highlights more examples of "the left hand not talking to the right hand" that they had to deal with on these ops.
Always love your guys content, thanks for all the amazing content
Great quality work as always!
Wow. That puts a new Twist on the term "Friendly Fire". 😮
Excellent work. Some of the best on TH-cam!
Wow, I remember learning about this dude from the History channel - speaking of, I wish “Dogfights” was available in high quality online somewhere…
It’s on TH-cam
To qoute the famous line by Admiral Ackbar in Return of the Jedi:"It's a trap!!!"
Plenty of those in Thailand too.
3:22 That’s my uncle on the left with Olds. His name was William “Bill” Kirk and he splashed two MIG-21s during his tour in country. Kirk retired a 4 star general. I have his helmet he wore during his time there. 13:47 Bill with Olds again sharing a laugh after a successful mission. I believe it was the BOLO mission this video is from. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_L._Kirk
Thanks for the continued great content.
wonderful thank you for another incredibly detailed history display.
Quality upload as always
Always excellent work. Many thanks.
Love this channel. Best voice on TH-cam. Good content too.
Always love how you cover all sides
Very good video as always.
Chieu, on the way out: "Because I was... Inverted!"
Coughbullshicough
My mind went there too! Maybe Top Gun is a documentary after all!
It would be very interesting to see you cover the Tongo Tongo ambush!
This is the content I'm here for, history, not last weeks support of death...
These videos are always excellent, one day you should visualize you channel's battles against the TH-cam algorithm 🙂
Never heard a story about the vietnamese air force
An interesting and informative video. Thanks for your hard work it's much appreciated.
You were showing B-52 footage from SOUTH Vietnam. The US didn’t deploy B-52s in the North until late 1972.
Superb work as always!
I love this channel. Keep up the outstanding work
Comment installation complete. Mission accomplished. Bugging out and heading home ! 🐿
The Mig-21 bort numbers were Van Coc "4227" and Nat Chieu "4228"......
Always love watching your content!
Amazing video as always!
As always, a fantastic video!
Great video as always
top tier work as always ops room
Amazing quality, as always !
Love your content and subscribed to your channel
Thank you for the content.
I enjoyed this documentary
Top quality video as always.
Gotta say I wouldn’t want to find myself on Robin Olds’ bad side.
Would love to see some videos on the F-111 operations during Vietnam as well!
Amazing work as always
It’s actually pronounced “noo-wen,” not “en-gui-yen.” Fantastic video as per usual, keep it up! Maybe one on the Son Tay Raid soon? Unless you did one and I just missed it 😂
Commenting to help the algorithm. Love these videos!
Great video once again. I love the content about Vietnam war
Amazing video as always :D
Excellent video, keep it up lads!!!
I love all your stuff, but the air battle stuff is my favorite.
I very much enjoyed your video and I gave it a Thumbs Up
great video as always!!!
It's a 16 minute video that started 15 minutes ago and you commented before it even finished so how's it great if you haven't watched it?
@@JSFGuy Patreon supporters get early access
@@Xiodot I understand, I have patreon as well. Comment over there. Didn't say so. Let them answer for that. I just like these comments that predetermine a video before they ever watch it.
what lol I watched it and towards the end I I said that, I love each video they release. what's wrong with that?
@@PhantomCatGame nothing outside the fact you didn't watch all of it before saying it was great That's all. Normally you watch all of it and then comment on its content or quality.
Love your work!!!