When a history channel can't use normal vocabulary to tell their story without fear of being demonetized you know the system is broken. Love this channel.
Lengthy detailed historical accounts? Heck no. Bodycam footage of brutal bloody shootings? All for it. Predatory videos targeting kids? All for it. TH-cam is jacked man.
The TH-cam algorithm and advertising is so ridiculous I can’t even describe it. Glad you guys seem to not care and just want to make the best content possible!
@@lukesmith1003 this is a big part of it. It's not like they aren't running ads on the videos they just want to keep the creator's portion of the ad revenue and until there's a mass exodus to rumble they'll never change and on top of that they're heavily motivated to stamp out history knowledge its a core tenant of our gnostic overlords it let's them create new identities for a people
TH-cam: High-quality educational content... better demonetize that. Also TH-cam: low-quality/scam/AI generated/rot your brain content.... Take my money.
I for one use a cheap and cheerful app that allows me to download any YT video of my choosing - See "4K video downloader". In doing so it eliminates any and all ads so that I can watch without YT trying to bore me with inane and irrelevant inserts.
man youtube needs to fuck off, this channel is THE best at depicting almost every historical conflict. it’s purely educational and allows people historical context of how conflicts unfolded. It’s almost like they just don’t want people knowing about history
We REQUIRE a multinational program to find solutions for the distribution and maintenance of public knowledge and communication. The stern reality is that this is not compatible with capitalism. It needs to reside alongside it somehow. How do I know this? The two immediate solutions to the TH-cam problem are, breaking the monopoly, and government regulation or seizure. The first is the capitalism-compatible option, but, for those who don't know, a very very large portion of free (and even some not free) online services are unsustainably borrowing money and stock valued with promises or lies. The whole "TH-cam should do x, y, or z" doesn't get resolved because Google alphawhatever is responsible for, and benefiting from, what is now a large piece of human existence, and they couldn't possibly handle that responsibility.
The RAF had trained for +25 years to conduct low-penetration attacks in the Northern German Plain. They knew nothing else and were blindly tied to that Cold War strategy, and had developed tactics and weapons designed to support that strategy. The RAF believed that such tactics/weapons, along with their superbly-trained crews, were the superior answer to the USAF's emphasis on ECM. They quickly realized how utterly obsolete those ideas had become. When the RAF found itself in the flat Iraqi deserts, with negligible ECM coverage, the Iraqi AD began to score. These tactics resulted in a "stand down" by the RAF Tornado squadrons, followed by a change in tactics - stay high. This remained until an absolutely brilliantly quick reaction by the RAF: Deploy Buccaneer strike jets, equipped with laser designators to illuminate the targets, while the Tornados tag along with LGB's to strike. No losses after that. Now that's what is known as "thinking on your feet"! Interestingly, the same low altitude tactics had the same sad results with USN VAW units. After the loss of the 3rd (or 4th) A-6E, USAF LtGen Chuck Horner sent a very strongly worded message, to both the USAF and USN/USMC squadrons: Keep your boys above 18,000 feet or the CO will quickly be relieved and sent home with a quick retirement in the near future.
It reminds me of James Burton's blitzfighter concept.Both harebrained ideas that completely ignore how good and ubiquitous the soviet 23mm QA guns were.
The RAF tried to copy the USAF F-111 low altitude interdiction missions during Linebacker operations, that was partly successful, when the B-52s and other high altitude strike aircraft have pounded North Vietnamese air defenses and targets, so the F-111s can attack with impunity. In Vietnam the F-111 can use their superior low altitude radar at night, when NVA AAA had low accuracy and also the hilly terrain in Vietnam really helped the low altitude mission. The RAF saw this and probably copied it. In the deserts of Iraq and Kuwait and Saudi Arabia it won't help much because of the relatively flat terrain
Excactly.. The lack of mention of any EW or SEAD until the mission debrief portion makes them sitting ducks to even AAA . They had no clue what emitters there were and what weapon systems were lurking on the ground
My dad was in the number 3 jet. Which actually did the same as the number 4 jet. TORNADO NUMBER 3 : Unknown pilot - R. COBELLI Unknown Wso - J. TANK (My dad) Corrections: Tornado 1 & 2 went across the hardened shelter access with the JP233's Tornado 3 & 5 attacked from the south east and pulled up to deploy 8 x 1000lb free fall airburst bombs and then both pulled hard left before the airfield. Great video either way.
The casualty allowance in modern militaries is pretty tight. For every 80 fights they are losing 1 aircraft and that's enough to cause shaking in the command structure.
With the number of sorties they were flying at the time, that’s an annualized loss rate in the thousands. If you’re flying cheap propeller planes from the WWII era, that’s an acceptable loss. But when those planes are hundreds of millions of dollars (or pounds) each, that cost becomes unacceptable in a hurry. And that’s to say nothing of the loss of experienced trained pilots.
@trbrtk That just makes it WORSE. If it goes from “1 loss per 80 total sorties” to “1 loss per 50 combat sorties”, that’s basically saying “our birds can’t survive a fight”.
The only thing it's missing is an analysis of the death toll among civilians the US caused as a result of this war. Would also be nice to explain US involvement in making sure the war happened.
OPERATIONS ROOOOM! IVE BEEN HERE FOR THE WHOLE 5 YEARS MAN! Always use to interact with you when it was a smaller group of us supporters lol. Keep going man!!!
TH-cam: "You broke a rule" Operations Room: Which one? YT: if we tell you, you might try to skirt around it. OR: Then how are we supposed to follow the rules properly? YT: Yes
spoiler alert: there are no actual rules, just very vague guidelines and mods being encouraged to overzealously interpret them with no regard for the consequences to channels, livelihoods and content quality
@@tangogolf6784 that was the most ridiculous rationale I've seen from TH-cam ever 😂 when these guys posted their conversation. Seems right on par with many local governments these days.
I remember several Tornados flying very low over my units position, the early morning of the first day of desert storm. They were heading north into Kuwait, and I was just south of the border in Saudi Arabia.
It's mind-boggling how much TH-cam has changed since its beginning. And absolutely NOT for the better. Greetings from North Carolina btw *Love Love Love this channel!*
Had the same thing happen to me several times; one of my comments got flagged and I get suspended without being told which comment or why. I argued with a rep for a while and they refused to tell me more.
I mean, in a way, it kinda makes sense. If you tell ppl what words to avoid, then they’ll just explicitly avoid those while giving the same message. Its like when the totally-not-subtle censoring of “kill” led to the mass adoption of “unalive” & its variations (like “self-unaliving”). Now just replace that with harassing/violent/discriminatory language.
Sorry to hear about these troubles, I’ve showed your videos to my Marines for educational purposes. You do amazing work and I hope something changes in this ecosystem so that you and people like you can continue to add valuable information to the public.
Great video.. Read a book called Tornado Down about the two fellows that got shot down and were prisoners of war. Had no idea that those old dumb bombs were essentially lobbed onto the target with a last minute pull up and release. Crazy stuff.
To be fair this is exactly what the GR1 was designed to do, essentially almost suicidal mission into East German and destroy forward staging ground for Soviet Troop and forward airfields, allowing the more numerous NATO Air Force to achieve forward air superiority. It is always amazing how many Cold War era tactics were proven wrong in modern conflicts.
How are they wrong? They accomplished the mission and lost no aircraft. Meanwhile, over on the Soviet-equipped and trained Iraqi Air Force side, they got monkey stomped from the get-go and lost control of their airspace immediately.
@@RCAvhstape This is when Iraq Air Force has already lost most of its combat air patrol and coordinated air defense, which will not be the case during the early hours of a Cold War turn hot.
@@saturnv2419 Yes, and why did the Iraqi Air Force lose its CAP and air defense capability? Because in the early hours of a fight with a Soviet-style force the NATO force mops the floor with them.
@@RCAvhstape They are wrong because the loss rate is very quickly unsustainable against the existing ground based air defense of the late cold war era, and that's while fighting Iraq, not the Soviet Union. Also: This was against a target with no SAM coverage, only AA guns, now try this against an S300 battery, and see how well that goes.
I'm glad to see more Gulf War series, I can see the improvements in production your team are making. I was 3 years old and my family lived in Manama, Bahrain during the Gulf War, this video and that series are special to me. I still have the two adult gas masks with blue paint stripes on them that my parents were required to pick up from the RAF base. We have a binder full of news clippings and things, and a fragment from a scud missile that landed in the desert. I also have a highly cherished Betamax cassette copy of a bunch of RAF footage edited together by some of the crews over Phil Collins and Whitesnake, several of the clips of it are here on YT. There was a concern that Saddam might go after Bahrain and the western military presence there, hence the gas masks, fortunately it never materialized in any meaningful form. Even though I was so young I have vivid memories of the line at the base, tape over the windows, and hearing the roar of RAF Tornadoes taking off not far from our house. The brass balls of the RAF pilots is remarkable. I remember the clip of the radio chatter just after they had bombed an airfield at night, and one of the crew remarking "It lights up quite well with all the AA fire, doesn't it.?" And I think the flight lead saying "You know when you can see the shots going under the wing you're within a quarter-mile of it, and I saw the shots going under the wing and thought 'aw, fuck'. " Ops Room is the kind of thing that keeps YT alive, weather they realize it or not, if they simply chase short-form tiktoks I don't think they will survive another 5 years as another new competitor rises in popularity while YT remains the "old" app. I love the work that you do, and it thanks to your videos I gained an interest in several things I hadn't before, pre- missile age naval battles for one. I understand its not easy to pay the bills, have you guys ever considered joining a platform like Nebula or History of Weapons & War?
Requesting you guys make a video on the military response and jet scramblings to the September 11 attacks on that day and U.S. military actions on the attack on the United States.
A big thank you goes to the team behind these phenomenal videos! It’s been a pleasure to watch the quality of animation, research, and writing improve over the years. With the growth of The Operations Room, the expansion to include The Intel Report, and the savvy use of Patreon and sponsor funds to reinvest in the process of creating videos, it’s encouraging to see a channel this dedicated expand and succeed. I genuinely look forward to each upload you post and it’s a bright spot seeing a new video in my subscriptions feed. Not to mention the quality of even the oldest videos on the channel means I can go back and watch my favourites without it getting tedious. Thank you all again for the work you do. It doesn’t exist in a vacuum and it does have a positive impact.
I’ve always been a student of history, and I have immensely enjoyed your videos. Fantastic work across-the-board. There’s most definitely a war against the accurate retelling of history, and a push by TH-cam to pump out mindless drivel over intelligent conduct.
TH-cam isn't cool enough to embrace Kristolian "different truths for different people"-type thinking, sad to say. "Accurate retelling of history" should not be the highest good imo.
These Desert Storm Series are still probably my favorite. And so sorry about youtube... hopefully they either finally grow up or get bought out one day.
I really enjoy these animated historical battles! They are very informative and really easy to follow and understand. I hope I get to see more videos in the future
Flipping heck. I know the flight commander of this mission. He's my neighbour. I offered to make a video interviewing him about his experiences for one of my YT channels but he's a very humble guy and politely declined. I just sent him a whatsapp message with a link to this video.
@@TheOperationsRoom Gordon. I didn't write his name as, like many combat veterans, he's very humble about his heroics. I'll drop you guys an email if he gets back to me after seeing the video. Lol, when he first moved in I was two floors above him. One day him and the neighbour below me were banging on my door at midnight. I'd set my bath running then totally forgot and flooded the neighbour below and down into Gordon's place too. I was mortified but shocked that he wasn't angry with me. After seeing this video I can see where he learned to be calm in a crisis.
@@TheOperationsRoom I got a reply from Gordon Buckley. I got his permission to post his comments here in the comments section. Maybe you can pin this? From Gordon: Thanks, I found the video quite interesting, but as ever in these things there were a number of errors. I don’t want to have a conversation about it, but suffice to say the mission was very difficult. It was quite surprising to see the video, I must admit. I’m assuming most of the info for the video was taken from John Nichol’s book, “Tornado”. The errors in the video are minor and do not detract from the overall content the video. I’m happy for you to pass on those comments. _______ I'll add myself that although the mission was over thirty years ago now, and Commander Buckley was not a young lad at the time, he's still very youthful, fit and a good looking bloke if may say. He's also very humble and friendly. My admiration for him as a person has increased even further after seeing this video.
Thanks for the kind message. Indeed our primary source was John Nichol's "Tornado". If he was open to discussing further I'd be happy for him to email me at theoperationsroom@gmail.com and we could arrange a call, but I completely understand if he'd prefer not to 👍. Would love to hear more from his perspective
These serve as amazing educational content that far exceed any textbook I think you could read. War cannot be comprehended by the human mind on the scale that it is fought. These videos do a very good job at coming closer to showing the truth of what war really is and the scale that it really happens on. It's very easy to hear about one story of one heroic deed of one soldier and forget the fact that they're being supported by thousands, if not tens of thousands of people who all have their own unique stories
I like that the operations room is very honest, the suppression of history and battles is a no go. the people behind this channel really keep history alive on yt
Outstanding work on the animated 3D models and weapon release animations and related small details - I feel like this video shows the Operations Room animation team has stepped up to the next level of quality and accuracy. Keep up the improvements!
Thanks for the work you do! I am sorry if I have explained this previously, I am recovering from a stroke.( lived) I use the operations room to improve my focus. It’s a great help!
I'm sorry to hear about your troubles with youtube, you're one of my favourite content creator on this platform. I wish I could support you on patreon but I'm currently a broke student but once I'm able to I will since your content is amazing! Keep up the great work!!
The original Golf War video of the 1st Golf War, was what I remember every time I see you videos. The insane layers, intricacies, planning and cooperation between sobmant militaries qas astounding
Ayo i love this content and have for years. No matter how well i may think i know a particular situation, im watching your recaps every time
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I'd say I can't believe that TH-cam would go after such a straight-edged and scrupulous channel. But unfortunately, I absolutely believe that. TH-cam has been scummy these days.
To me Desert Storm started at 2100 hours on 16 January. I was on a hill at Prince Sultan Air Base watching our F-15’s and F-16’s taking off. I also remember how the night sky turned red from all the bombing and bullets flying in the air, it was both fascinating and scary at the same time
TH-cam is become a parody of the monster meglo-conglomerate that we all made fun of it for being. I hope you guys don't have to deal with too much of their insanity. Your videos have been absolutely phenomenal.
I have been watching your channel since you uploaded your first video and if a compare your recent videos with that one. The quality on your videos and the amount of research you put into them is amazing. If it wasn't for my great grandfather and this amazing channel, learning about the wars in the 20th century wouldn't have been my hobby. Thank you, Operations Room:)
I’ve been watching your videos for a while now, and I am a big fan of the unbiased yet descriptive and informative content y’all put out. Keep up the great work guys ❤️
You'd think they would drop the 1,000 pounders _first_ Take out the AA first. Hell, you'd think they would _saturate_ the airfield instead of just hitting it with JP233s.
Maybe that was the initial plan. After all, the strike package has lost half of its planes and the only one armed with 1000 lb bombs has been lagging behind.
But people that don't pay for it won't be able to watch. I can't say I love this channel enough to pay to use a separate platform just for it, especially one so riddled with bugs and poor performance.
That's why I completely ignore youtube recommendations. If I didn't search for it, or it isn't recommended by another creator or other actual person who's opinion I value, I don't watch it. Everytime youtune tries to queue up a video I didn't select, I click away. No one should let an algorithm decide what they should consume.
Why on earth would I care how you found this video? Go back to lying on your low t ass while waiting for algorithms to tell you what you need to watch. Now, I'd say "get used to being ignored" but I have a feeling you already are. @matthewbarabas3052
@@TheOperationsRoom that mission can be tweak they should drop the 1000lbs bombs to destroy the AAA battery and the hangar first then the anti runway bomb second but lucky that mission was a success with no lives loss.
TH-cam: Your channel has been demonetized because you broke one of our policy content rules. Also TH-cam: No, we won’t tell you which policy you broke because that would make it easier for people to avoid breaking them. ???????????????? There need to be some serious changes for TH-cam, this shit cannot continue like this.
I discovered this channel less than 12 months ago. I just want to say thanks. As a fan of war history and battle tactics, I really enjoy the content, especially the WWII battles and special operations like the Entabbe raid. It's not just the animation and battles themselves, but the firsthand accounts and journals from soldiers, true stories of heroism. YT is trying to dumb everyone down, censoring real history content and pushing short attention span brainrot. Even though I actively seek out this type of content, my homepage is filled with shorts and stupid games.
that's why I set my recommendations to "Subscriptions" instead of "Home" years ago. All that suggested spam disappears. Just wish the shorts could be disabled/hidden too
I’d love to see one done on the Battle of Arracourt - it is the largest tank battle in WW2 that is least known out of all the large tank battles in WW2
I mean yea the mission was stressful. But was it really “the mission from hell”? None of them were shot down or even damaged. A mission from hell would be watching your buddy get shot down and then get captured and tortured or getting blown out of the sky and never seeing your family again. Not “aw shucks we don’t have a lot of fuel!!! Refueling is hard right now!!!”
When a history channel can't use normal vocabulary to tell their story without fear of being demonetized you know the system is broken. Love this channel.
USA#1 more freedumb than any other place on earth!
And yet a blatainly obviouse channle with a scantly clad girl selling her self so you go to her OF channel.. wrong
TH-cam CEO was a Jooooo
@@_c_y_p_3 One of the most idiotic comments I've seen in a while
Lengthy detailed historical accounts? Heck no. Bodycam footage of brutal bloody shootings? All for it. Predatory videos targeting kids? All for it.
TH-cam is jacked man.
The TH-cam algorithm and advertising is so ridiculous I can’t even describe it. Glad you guys seem to not care and just want to make the best content possible!
They blame "the algorithm" when they manually demonetize someone, in order to coerce content creators to reflect the history authorized by the Jews.
It's honestly distressing how antagonistic TH-cam's policies are to legitimate history channels.
@@johnsanko4136 it’s theft. A large percentage of the TH-cam videos I watch are Operations Room’s, they are getting scammed.
@@lukesmith1003 this is a big part of it. It's not like they aren't running ads on the videos they just want to keep the creator's portion of the ad revenue and until there's a mass exodus to rumble they'll never change and on top of that they're heavily motivated to stamp out history knowledge its a core tenant of our gnostic overlords it let's them create new identities for a people
TH-cam should give creators a cut of the adspace that takes up video slots on people's home page
TH-cam: High-quality educational content... better demonetize that.
Also TH-cam: low-quality/scam/AI generated/rot your brain content.... Take my money.
I heard the term "attention-based economy" a few years ago and I really wish I hadn't.
Alphabet tasted the sweet sweet RMB and has been trying to get back to China for years.Guess which content communists don't like?
I for one use a cheap and cheerful app that allows me to download any YT video of my choosing - See "4K video downloader". In doing so it eliminates any and all ads so that I can watch without YT trying to bore me with inane and irrelevant inserts.
You don't need a conspiracy when interests converge.
don't forget the haressment/pranking based bs......
man youtube needs to fuck off, this channel is THE best at depicting almost every historical conflict. it’s purely educational and allows people historical context of how conflicts unfolded. It’s almost like they just don’t want people knowing about history
They don't. Communists want to change history so it can be rewritten. The proof's in, well...history.
The big techcons aren't interested in educated people(s)
"How dare you break our secret policies?!"
TH-cam is a small business just trying to survive! Only a Communist would ever put people over profits.
We REQUIRE a multinational program to find solutions for the distribution and maintenance of public knowledge and communication. The stern reality is that this is not compatible with capitalism. It needs to reside alongside it somehow. How do I know this? The two immediate solutions to the TH-cam problem are, breaking the monopoly, and government regulation or seizure. The first is the capitalism-compatible option, but, for those who don't know, a very very large portion of free (and even some not free) online services are unsustainably borrowing money and stock valued with promises or lies. The whole "TH-cam should do x, y, or z" doesn't get resolved because Google alphawhatever is responsible for, and benefiting from, what is now a large piece of human existence, and they couldn't possibly handle that responsibility.
The RAF had trained for +25 years to conduct low-penetration attacks in the Northern German Plain. They knew nothing else and were blindly tied to that Cold War strategy, and had developed tactics and weapons designed to support that strategy. The RAF believed that such tactics/weapons, along with their superbly-trained crews, were the superior answer to the USAF's emphasis on ECM. They quickly realized how utterly obsolete those ideas had become. When the RAF found itself in the flat Iraqi deserts, with negligible ECM coverage, the Iraqi AD began to score.
These tactics resulted in a "stand down" by the RAF Tornado squadrons, followed by a change in tactics - stay high. This remained until an absolutely brilliantly quick reaction by the RAF: Deploy Buccaneer strike jets, equipped with laser designators to illuminate the targets, while the Tornados tag along with LGB's to strike. No losses after that. Now that's what is known as "thinking on your feet"!
Interestingly, the same low altitude tactics had the same sad results with USN VAW units. After the loss of the 3rd (or 4th) A-6E, USAF LtGen Chuck Horner sent a very strongly worded message, to both the USAF and USN/USMC squadrons: Keep your boys above 18,000 feet or the CO will quickly be relieved and sent home with a quick retirement in the near future.
No one learned the lessons from Vietnam that a strike package has to include effective ECM, SEAD suppression, and logistical support.
It reminds me of James Burton's blitzfighter concept.Both harebrained ideas that completely ignore how good and ubiquitous the soviet 23mm QA guns were.
The RAF tried to copy the USAF F-111 low altitude interdiction missions during Linebacker operations, that was partly successful, when the B-52s and other high altitude strike aircraft have pounded North Vietnamese air defenses and targets, so the F-111s can attack with impunity. In Vietnam the F-111 can use their superior low altitude radar at night, when NVA AAA had low accuracy and also the hilly terrain in Vietnam really helped the low altitude mission. The RAF saw this and probably copied it. In the deserts of Iraq and Kuwait and Saudi Arabia it won't help much because of the relatively flat terrain
Thanks for your insight!
Excactly.. The lack of mention of any EW or SEAD until the mission debrief portion makes them sitting ducks to even AAA . They had no clue what emitters there were and what weapon systems were lurking on the ground
My dad was in the number 3 jet. Which actually did the same as the number 4 jet.
TORNADO NUMBER 3 :
Unknown pilot - R. COBELLI
Unknown Wso - J. TANK (My dad)
Corrections:
Tornado 1 & 2 went across the hardened shelter access with the JP233's
Tornado 3 & 5 attacked from the south east and pulled up to deploy 8 x 1000lb free fall airburst bombs and then both pulled hard left before the airfield.
Great video either way.
I was just thinking that there was no mention of what aircraft number 3 did or who the crew were. Respect to your dad😊
The casualty allowance in modern militaries is pretty tight. For every 80 fights they are losing 1 aircraft and that's enough to cause shaking in the command structure.
With the number of sorties they were flying at the time, that’s an annualized loss rate in the thousands. If you’re flying cheap propeller planes from the WWII era, that’s an acceptable loss. But when those planes are hundreds of millions of dollars (or pounds) each, that cost becomes unacceptable in a hurry. And that’s to say nothing of the loss of experienced trained pilots.
Not every sortie is a fight.
@@trbrtk but every 80 is a loss so whats your point
@trbrtk That just makes it WORSE. If it goes from “1 loss per 80 total sorties” to “1 loss per 50 combat sorties”, that’s basically saying “our birds can’t survive a fight”.
@@benjaminlynch9958so ur saying high intensity air war is over ?
The most British understatement, "Start leveling off, mate. We've got 300 ft to go."
Followed by "I don't have many of those left in me" rather than "F that; never again" 🤣
The Desert Storm series was one my favorities from this channel. Glad to see it coming back
The only thing it's missing is an analysis of the death toll among civilians the US caused as a result of this war. Would also be nice to explain US involvement in making sure the war happened.
seriously, either that or drop the “un-biased” charade at the beginning of most of the videos.
Civilian deads are inevitable in wars @@shade9272
OPERATIONS ROOOOM! IVE BEEN HERE FOR THE WHOLE 5 YEARS MAN! Always use to interact with you when it was a smaller group of us supporters lol.
Keep going man!!!
TH-cam: "You broke a rule"
Operations Room: Which one?
YT: if we tell you, you might try to skirt around it.
OR: Then how are we supposed to follow the rules properly?
YT: Yes
spoiler alert: there are no actual rules, just very vague guidelines and mods being encouraged to overzealously interpret them with no regard for the consequences to channels, livelihoods and content quality
@@kontenterrorist2449 I gathered that
@@tangogolf6784 that was the most ridiculous rationale I've seen from TH-cam ever 😂 when these guys posted their conversation. Seems right on par with many local governments these days.
The desert storm series lives on! probably one of the most iconic series you've made, I also wish you the best through this youtube hell
I remember several Tornados flying very low over my units position, the early morning of the first day of desert storm. They were heading north into Kuwait, and I was just south of the border in Saudi Arabia.
Even tough it was a mission from hell they still managed to destroy the target while not losing a single aircraft. Impressive job by the RAF.
It's mind-boggling how much TH-cam has changed since its beginning. And absolutely NOT for the better.
Greetings from North Carolina btw *Love Love Love this channel!*
1:16 "you are breaking the rules, but i can't tell you which ones". What a joke!
Had the same thing happen to me several times; one of my comments got flagged and I get suspended without being told which comment or why. I argued with a rep for a while and they refused to tell me more.
@@jdotoz they are getting worse every day
I mean, in a way, it kinda makes sense. If you tell ppl what words to avoid, then they’ll just explicitly avoid those while giving the same message.
Its like when the totally-not-subtle censoring of “kill” led to the mass adoption of “unalive” & its variations (like “self-unaliving”). Now just replace that with harassing/violent/discriminatory language.
@@UGNAvalon It's a matter of common decency to tell someone why you're punishing them.
I’ll give them this, for authoritarians, they’re consistent at their inconsistency, greed, and anti freedom stupidity.
I appreciate the time you took to have the tornados' sweep wings change during their flight animation. Nice detail.
Sorry to hear about these troubles, I’ve showed your videos to my Marines for educational purposes. You do amazing work and I hope something changes in this ecosystem so that you and people like you can continue to add valuable information to the public.
From the USA: Thank you for your grit & service!
Great video.. Read a book called Tornado Down about the two fellows that got shot down and were prisoners of war. Had no idea that those old dumb bombs were essentially lobbed onto the target with a last minute pull up and release. Crazy stuff.
Superb!!! These pilots deserve a lot.more recognition.
The Tornado pilots during DS. Some of the bravest pilots i know. The absolute balls.
To be fair this is exactly what the GR1 was designed to do, essentially almost suicidal mission into East German and destroy forward staging ground for Soviet Troop and forward airfields, allowing the more numerous NATO Air Force to achieve forward air superiority.
It is always amazing how many Cold War era tactics were proven wrong in modern conflicts.
How are they wrong? They accomplished the mission and lost no aircraft. Meanwhile, over on the Soviet-equipped and trained Iraqi Air Force side, they got monkey stomped from the get-go and lost control of their airspace immediately.
@@RCAvhstape This is when Iraq Air Force has already lost most of its combat air patrol and coordinated air defense, which will not be the case during the early hours of a Cold War turn hot.
@@saturnv2419 Yes, and why did the Iraqi Air Force lose its CAP and air defense capability? Because in the early hours of a fight with a Soviet-style force the NATO force mops the floor with them.
@@RCAvhstape It took days for that to happen, these G2s were meant to be part of the first wave.
@@RCAvhstape They are wrong because the loss rate is very quickly unsustainable against the existing ground based air defense of the late cold war era, and that's while fighting Iraq, not the Soviet Union.
Also: This was against a target with no SAM coverage, only AA guns, now try this against an S300 battery, and see how well that goes.
I'm glad to see more Gulf War series, I can see the improvements in production your team are making. I was 3 years old and my family lived in Manama, Bahrain during the Gulf War, this video and that series are special to me. I still have the two adult gas masks with blue paint stripes on them that my parents were required to pick up from the RAF base. We have a binder full of news clippings and things, and a fragment from a scud missile that landed in the desert. I also have a highly cherished Betamax cassette copy of a bunch of RAF footage edited together by some of the crews over Phil Collins and Whitesnake, several of the clips of it are here on YT. There was a concern that Saddam might go after Bahrain and the western military presence there, hence the gas masks, fortunately it never materialized in any meaningful form. Even though I was so young I have vivid memories of the line at the base, tape over the windows, and hearing the roar of RAF Tornadoes taking off not far from our house.
The brass balls of the RAF pilots is remarkable. I remember the clip of the radio chatter just after they had bombed an airfield at night, and one of the crew remarking "It lights up quite well with all the AA fire, doesn't it.?" And I think the flight lead saying "You know when you can see the shots going under the wing you're within a quarter-mile of it, and I saw the shots going under the wing and thought 'aw, fuck'. "
Ops Room is the kind of thing that keeps YT alive, weather they realize it or not, if they simply chase short-form tiktoks I don't think they will survive another 5 years as another new competitor rises in popularity while YT remains the "old" app. I love the work that you do, and it thanks to your videos I gained an interest in several things I hadn't before, pre- missile age naval battles for one. I understand its not easy to pay the bills, have you guys ever considered joining a platform like Nebula or History of Weapons & War?
I agree!
Requesting you guys make a video on the military response and jet scramblings to the September 11 attacks on that day and U.S. military actions on the attack on the United States.
A big thank you goes to the team behind these phenomenal videos! It’s been a pleasure to watch the quality of animation, research, and writing improve over the years. With the growth of The Operations Room, the expansion to include The Intel Report, and the savvy use of Patreon and sponsor funds to reinvest in the process of creating videos, it’s encouraging to see a channel this dedicated expand and succeed.
I genuinely look forward to each upload you post and it’s a bright spot seeing a new video in my subscriptions feed. Not to mention the quality of even the oldest videos on the channel means I can go back and watch my favourites without it getting tedious.
Thank you all again for the work you do. It doesn’t exist in a vacuum and it does have a positive impact.
I won’t lie, I always have respected RAF pilots. Testicles of solid brass.
So is cheerfulness, or a good temper, the more it is spent, the more remains.
I’ve always been a student of history, and I have immensely enjoyed your videos. Fantastic work across-the-board.
There’s most definitely a war against the accurate retelling of history, and a push by TH-cam to pump out mindless drivel over intelligent conduct.
Sorry, intelligent content…
TH-cam isn't cool enough to embrace Kristolian "different truths for different people"-type thinking, sad to say.
"Accurate retelling of history" should not be the highest good imo.
These Desert Storm Series are still probably my favorite. And so sorry about youtube... hopefully they either finally grow up or get bought out one day.
Your videos are most welcome, and very much appreciated. Rumble may be an alternative
I really enjoy these animated historical battles! They are very informative and really easy to follow and understand. I hope I get to see more videos in the future
Flipping heck.
I know the flight commander of this mission. He's my neighbour.
I offered to make a video interviewing him about his experiences for one of my YT channels but he's a very humble guy and politely declined.
I just sent him a whatsapp message with a link to this video.
Who is it? Let me know what he thinks!
@@TheOperationsRoom Gordon.
I didn't write his name as, like many combat veterans, he's very humble about his heroics.
I'll drop you guys an email if he gets back to me after seeing the video.
Lol, when he first moved in I was two floors above him. One day him and the neighbour below me were banging on my door at midnight.
I'd set my bath running then totally forgot and flooded the neighbour below and down into Gordon's place too.
I was mortified but shocked that he wasn't angry with me.
After seeing this video I can see where he learned to be calm in a crisis.
@@TheOperationsRoom
I got a reply from Gordon Buckley.
I got his permission to post his comments here in the comments section.
Maybe you can pin this?
From Gordon:
Thanks, I found the video quite interesting, but as ever in these things there were a number of errors. I don’t want to have a conversation about it, but suffice to say the mission was very difficult.
It was quite surprising to see the video, I must admit.
I’m assuming most of the info for the video was taken from John Nichol’s book, “Tornado”.
The errors in the video are minor and do not detract from the overall content the video.
I’m happy for you to pass on those comments.
_______
I'll add myself that although the mission was over thirty years ago now, and Commander Buckley was not a young lad at the time, he's still very youthful, fit and a good looking bloke if may say. He's also very humble and friendly.
My admiration for him as a person has increased even further after seeing this video.
@NR-rv8rz amazing post, please pass on my thanks, both for his comment, bravery, insane skill set and service.
Thanks for the kind message. Indeed our primary source was John Nichol's "Tornado". If he was open to discussing further I'd be happy for him to email me at theoperationsroom@gmail.com and we could arrange a call, but I completely understand if he'd prefer not to 👍. Would love to hear more from his perspective
These serve as amazing educational content that far exceed any textbook I think you could read. War cannot be comprehended by the human mind on the scale that it is fought. These videos do a very good job at coming closer to showing the truth of what war really is and the scale that it really happens on. It's very easy to hear about one story of one heroic deed of one soldier and forget the fact that they're being supported by thousands, if not tens of thousands of people who all have their own unique stories
watching the ops room while eating is goated
TY 🙏🙏 A great video.
Also goes to show how tough the WW2 crews on bombing/ground attack missions were, doing 25+ missions for a tour.
It's that time again.
censorship time. Don't want White people to get any ideas about "freedom".
You said it!
Yes, you do a GREAT JOB! Thank You for you and your teams efforts!
I like that the operations room is very honest, the suppression of history and battles is a no go. the people behind this channel really keep history alive on yt
no, its the people who are interested in history who keeps it alive.
I am so tired of TH-cam’s guidelines we really need a new alternative you will always have a fan and supporter in me I love your videos!
Guys, consider YT membership as well, for viewers from countries where Patreon isn't ideal.
TH-cam will never make me miss your extraordinary content. Keep up the great work!
Your welcome you are amazing and always support you
Thank you sir, as well as the team that makes this show happen! Happy to be a new patron.
Never forgot John Peters and John Nichol. Oh the JP233 missions were indeed damn hard.
As a Historian, your channel is one of my favorites!
Fascinating history, thank you!
Outstanding work on the animated 3D models and weapon release animations and related small details - I feel like this video shows the Operations Room animation team has stepped up to the next level of quality and accuracy. Keep up the improvements!
It's really been five years, huh? Doesn't seem that long. Here's to another 5 more!
Thanks for the work you do! I am sorry if I have explained this previously, I am recovering from a stroke.( lived) I use the operations room to improve my focus. It’s a great help!
I subscribed to the patreon after TOR yanked the Better Health sponsorship. Great content and integrity? Yes, please.
I'm sorry to hear about your troubles with youtube, you're one of my favourite content creator on this platform. I wish I could support you on patreon but I'm currently a broke student but once I'm able to I will since your content is amazing! Keep up the great work!!
21 seconds! I feel accomplished for sure.
Yeah! I started commenting at 23 seconds
The original Golf War video of the 1st Golf War, was what I remember every time I see you videos.
The insane layers, intricacies, planning and cooperation between sobmant militaries qas astounding
Love your contents and hate TH-cam Policies
This is honestly one of the best youtube channels. TH-cam should br ashamed of themselves.
TH-cam badly needs a competitor.
that wont make it any better.
Keep it up man! Some of the most detailed and historically accurate retellings I've listened to (or read)!
It feels wrong for them to say "everything that could go wrong did go wrong" when everyone made it out alive.
Ayo i love this content and have for years. No matter how well i may think i know a particular situation, im watching your recaps every time
I'd say I can't believe that TH-cam would go after such a straight-edged and scrupulous channel. But unfortunately, I absolutely believe that. TH-cam has been scummy these days.
To me Desert Storm started at 2100 hours on 16 January. I was on a hill at Prince Sultan Air Base watching our F-15’s and F-16’s taking off. I also remember how the night sky turned red from all the bombing and bullets flying in the air, it was both fascinating and scary at the same time
Lol you wouldn't not have seen tracer and bomb blasts from PSAB. It's hundreds of miles from Kuwait let alone Iraq.
First patreon ad in a hot minute I've not just skipped through. Absolutely ridiculous that your stunning videos are having trouble of this kind.
TH-cam is become a parody of the monster meglo-conglomerate that we all made fun of it for being. I hope you guys don't have to deal with too much of their insanity. Your videos have been absolutely phenomenal.
If it weren't for you guys and a very small handful of others on here, I'd be totally off this site. Keep up the great work!
The algorithm is getting chinned next time I see it
I have been watching your channel since you uploaded your first video and if a compare your recent videos with that one. The quality on your videos and the amount of research you put into them is amazing. If it wasn't for my great grandfather and this amazing channel, learning about the wars in the 20th century wouldn't have been my hobby.
Thank you, Operations Room:)
The RAF tactics of bombing enemy airfields is based on Cold War tactics against a predictable Third World War against the USSR.
No, it used the JP233 which worked well at denying runways.
I feel like it would have been dubious in that role. Imagine doing this against S-200 and S-300. There is a reason why air war became a range game.
Congrats on 5 years! Love the content.
Woah I'm awake for this
I’ve been watching your videos for a while now, and I am a big fan of the unbiased yet descriptive and informative content y’all put out. Keep up the great work guys ❤️
Armchair Historian and The Operations Room both came up with someone on the Iraq war on the same day, around 1 hour of each other.
You'd think they would drop the 1,000 pounders _first_
Take out the AA first.
Hell, you'd think they would _saturate_ the airfield instead of just hitting it with JP233s.
Maybe that was the initial plan. After all, the strike package has lost half of its planes and the only one armed with 1000 lb bombs has been lagging behind.
You dropped this while I'm in work, thank you very much
Has the team ever considered joining a creator owned video platform like Nebula?
Mustard does this and the quality is second to none.
This.
But people that don't pay for it won't be able to watch. I can't say I love this channel enough to pay to use a separate platform just for it, especially one so riddled with bugs and poor performance.
My dude, watched so many of ur videos ur always at the top as soon as you post. Keep it up, I live for this content.
That's why I completely ignore youtube recommendations. If I didn't search for it, or it isn't recommended by another creator or other actual person who's opinion I value, I don't watch it. Everytime youtune tries to queue up a video I didn't select, I click away.
No one should let an algorithm decide what they should consume.
The algorithm won't hurt you, dude.
yeah have fun trying to find anyhting new or interesting, then.
@@matthewbarabas3052 Oh, I don't know. You could exercise some agency and seek out your own content instead of being spoonfed?
@@bandit6272 how do you think i *found* this channel? being spoonfed. try thinking before you speak.
Why on earth would I care how you found this video? Go back to lying on your low t ass while waiting for algorithms to tell you what you need to watch.
Now, I'd say "get used to being ignored" but I have a feeling you already are.
@matthewbarabas3052
Absolutely LOVE these Aviation videos! Cant get enough! Especially Vietnam to modern era 🥵
I was unsubscribed to this channel by TH-cam
Looking forward to hearing more about these guys.
* attack with USAF pre-emptive strike *
RAF: "USAF is making this too hard!"
* attack without *
RAF: "OHSHIT"
Well they didn't lose an aircraft so 😅
@@TheOperationsRoom that mission can be tweak they should drop the 1000lbs bombs to destroy the AAA battery and the hangar first then the anti runway bomb second but lucky that mission was a success with no lives loss.
I got recommended this channel 2 days ago. Hope things improve for you soon - great content
TH-cam: Your channel has been demonetized because you broke one of our policy content rules.
Also TH-cam: No, we won’t tell you which policy you broke because that would make it easier for people to avoid breaking them.
????????????????
There need to be some serious changes for TH-cam, this shit cannot continue like this.
also youtube: Let's accept anti-semitic videos.
its how it works for most online providers. they wont tell you what rule you broke.
Thank you for you work , because the animation is like a game that we all needed for a while🎉
I discovered this channel less than 12 months ago. I just want to say thanks. As a fan of war history and battle tactics, I really enjoy the content, especially the WWII battles and special operations like the Entabbe raid. It's not just the animation and battles themselves, but the firsthand accounts and journals from soldiers, true stories of heroism.
YT is trying to dumb everyone down, censoring real history content and pushing short attention span brainrot. Even though I actively seek out this type of content, my homepage is filled with shorts and stupid games.
that's why I set my recommendations to "Subscriptions" instead of "Home" years ago. All that suggested spam disappears. Just wish the shorts could be disabled/hidden too
@@dlscorp psst, your subscribers probably makes those shorts.
Thank you for hard work. It is really appreciated.
Raf, we don't need the Americans help 🎉🎉🎉🎉
I’d love to see one done on the Battle of Arracourt - it is the largest tank battle in WW2 that is least known out of all the large tank battles in WW2
Why drop the anti personnel mines before the 1000 pound bombs? Seems like the 1000 pounders would help eliminate the anti personnel mines.
Dropped on different areas. The RAF mission planners wouldn’t be that daft!
I am honored to support your efforts
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*AS WE MAKE OUR WAY TO HEAVEN*
THROUGH THE NAZI LINES
PRIMO VICTORIA
DRUM AND GUITAR SOUNDS
MORE DRUM AND GUITAR SOUNDS
Thanks
Yewtoob unsubbed me from your channel too.
thats not how it works.
You are making amazing educational videos! I always learn something new! Thank you.
I mean yea the mission was stressful. But was it really “the mission from hell”? None of them were shot down or even damaged. A mission from hell would be watching your buddy get shot down and then get captured and tortured or getting blown out of the sky and never seeing your family again. Not “aw shucks we don’t have a lot of fuel!!! Refueling is hard right now!!!”
By far my favorite channel on TH-cam
TH-cam home to the modern day book burners 👎👎👎
Wish Elon bought them
Absolutely love these postings. Keep up the great work!
Why does everything have to be so PG?? We're all grown up adult who can handle a some "naughty" words.
children watch youtube. thats why.
Great video! I'm not thrilled with the changes to the yt algorithm but I'm glad TOR is hanging in there.⚔🔥🏹