What’s not mentioned either is how Tatum is primarily guarding the Mavs’ centers (who he’s shorter and lighter than). Dallas had 54 lob-dunks throughout the playoffs and they have
They want that selfish guy that they can promote. Not a low key star who does whatever to win and plays team basketball. They even admitted it on ESPN. Literally said, he can't be top 5 playing team ball. Those exact words. It's sad that the NBA media has gotten to where it's at.
Bingo. Said something similar about tim duncan as well. ESPN doesnt like team ball. Its boring. They like heliocentric/hero ball. They prefer to compare players to simplify things instead of comparing teams. ESPN also has a bias against defense. Its not marketable.
Those who criticize Tatum are blind. Yeah, he's not shooting so well, but that's only part of the game. He's a team player, scoring, passing, rebounding and defending. He can do that because he plays in a better team.
I'm a Tatum guy, he really needs to develop a 10-16 footer and he could be the man. Bill Simmons was pointing that out with some stats. I'm hoping Tatum finds the groove in Dallas , people will mention our great road record but just forget to mention Daddy Tatum is the big reason for that!! Go Celtics, two more!!
That's soooo correct. Big he doesn't score 40 pts people give him shit. But there are so many great players, he doesn't have to. Unlike Dallas...Luka has to score 30-40 or more for them to win
At the end of the day, idc about what the haters say, JT is playing winning basketball and were 4 days away from being champs, but I would love to see him drop a 35 or 40 piece in one of these games just as icing on the cake and our haters can pull out the remaining strands of hair they have☘️
The only thing that is bothersome in Tatums struggles are the Layups. Everyone was cold for Boston so Tatum struggling to shoot isn’t as bad. If you watch the game though his 13 2nd half points were big buckets. And since all the media and fake Mavs fans what to talk Hypotheticals, Tatum plays better on the road so he might go off but realistically as long as they win real Celtics fans will be happy.
Celtics game plan: stop Ky and Luka make the rest of the team beat them. Mavs game plan: stop Tatum make the rest of the team beat them. The difference is clear in the final results.
The biggest difference is Luka is being single covered and it's fine. Tatum has 3-5 guys on him. I'd love for Mavs to single cover Tatum like the Cs do to Luka.
@@subliminakeys1674 mavs can’t do single coverage on Tatum because they hunt Luka on defense and blows by him almost every time to make a play . Tatum should have had more than 12 assists if boston knocked down the 3ball but they went 10/39
All the hate on JT is RIDICULOUS STRAIGHT UP!!! THOSE PEOPLE ARE NOT AUTHENTIC GENUINE CELTICS FANS AND THEY KNOW WHO THEY ARE. I KNOW ONE IN THE CHAT AND HE DIRECTLY STANDS OUT💯💯💯JT's playmaking has improved drastically over the last few yrs along with his defense. He is an incredible talented player and has done alot to help this team get to where they are at. Both jays are AMAZING!!! people who hate are just CASUALS!!💯💯💯💯 PAYTON PRITCHARD EVEN SAID THAT. ANYWAYS 1 WIN AWAY FROM BEING 1 WIN AWAY 🏆. GREAT BREAKDOWN MY MAN MATT ☘️☘️☘️☘️💪💪⚡⚡⚡⚡⚡
By the 3rd quarter Luka is gassed & his face is red from exhaustion. I’m still hoping we get at least one vintage JT game where he’s unstoppable & hitting every thing.
Me too..i want a game on jt in this series he is go off and dominate scoring wise just shut up the haters on him..but even he cat do it as long as they winning the chip..im all on it..go celtic 2 w to go and boston will be tha nba champion once again..banner 18 is underway fellow celtics fans..hopingvfir a sweep to shut up also the nba media that went against boston
If we really gonna count. How many times tatum created spot up opportunities for his team. How many pick and rolls he stopped just by being able to defend the center and switch. And how many pts he lost cause he couldn't make a shot. Now let's count how many easy blowbys luka gave up resulting in easy buckets. Luka turnovers. How many spot up oppurtunities he created. And how good he shot the basketball. I can guarantee that tatum is gonna have way more impact by a mile just cause luka is a terrible defender.
Horrible coaching for Dallas and with Luka not defending or not being a solid defender this series is over. Why would you give anyone the baseline? Play a 2 1 2 zone but run it tight where the 5 spot player defends all sides by moving up or down. No player should have blindsided access to the baseline... WTH? Kyrie and Luka in the paint? Hilarious!
Luka was single covered for nearly 2 games and only had 30. Imagine what would happen if Dallas single covered Tatum... He would be absolutely destroying them.. he still is, even on a horrible shooting streak
cue the luka harden narratives again. Tatum has outplayed luka as a passer this series. Rebounding about equal. Tatum has the edge on defense and utility (like screens, off-ball movement, etc) while luka has the edge in shooting. Tatum however is ridiculed while luka is praised. Goes to show the bias for offense vs. defense. The win record shows thoufh which matters more. IMO JT is doing at least close to Luka..
Tatum has had a better series than luka.....luka stats: 60-18-11 12TOs....tatum: 34-20-17 9T....meanwhile luka has played near zero D while tatum has SHUTDOWN THE FIVE.....THE FIVE!!! WITH 20 BOARDS TO SHOW FOR IT
Here’s the Pugh Matrix for the NBA Finals (Mattydubs version) Result for C’s: Win Lose JT plays great 1 2 JT plays poorly 3 4 Key to potential outcomes: 1) if JT plays great and the Celtics win, JT is the GOAT 2) if JT plays great but the Celtics lose, JT is the GOAT 3) If JT plays poorly, but the Celtics win, JT is the GOAT. 4) If JT plays poorly and the Celtics lose, JT is the GOAT
Then you aren't a fan. You're just a young person, lost and just barely able to note the basics. Of course then you'll note that Tatum isn't scoring. Is Tatum not allowed to get a cold streak? Would you prefer that we have a repeat of the last time we were in the ECF, or the finals? When Tatum was impossible to guard but Brown had major ball protection issues and the Celtics lost after being down 0-3? If you can't see why it is more important that Tatum does other things better than score, just keep watching.
It's not about ignoring it... It's about the fact that the Celtics won this game because of Tatum in spite of horrible shooting. Of course fans want him to at least shoot his average. But he is literally more impactful than Luka by far even shooting this way. Tatum is controlling the game, both sides of the floor. No lobs? Tatum.. Kyrie not getting clutch shots? Tatum stole the ball from him like he was nothing. Lukas worn out? Well he's fat, but Tatum just kept hammering him over and over and over. Made him useless in the 4th. The entire Celtics offense, Tatum. Dude had 12 assists when his team shot 25% on 40 3s. If the Mavs single cover Tatum like the Cs do to Luka, Tatum would have well over 30. Tatums shooting is horrible and he's still the most impactful player on the floor and no other player in the NBA is well rounded enough to pull that off
It was bad but he put up 7 more assists than his season average. Plus he was getting to the paint, making the defense collapse almost at will. Luka had 8 TOs which can be considered just as bad as Tatums shooting last night. He didn’t do great but it wasn’t a bad performance.
Tatum’s actually pretty good 😊 The people who deserve derision (or pity) are those who credit JT for wins/good plays but don’t credit him for losses/bad plays. The same foolishness happened for years with Brady - and Belechick.
The media wants super stars to play solo in a team sport. It’s like they want them to put up 40+ a night even it means losing It makes no sense. Celtics are doing everything right and it’s still not enough for the talking heads
Hes tired from carrying. And thats the problem with heliocentric teams. If the others cant cover for the heliocentric star, they are operating 4 v 5 defensively.
Tatum had a great night but there were a few times he should have made the points as well, 18pts is nothing to scoff at to begin with if he was any body else they would have called that a good scoring game but if he drops 30 40 or even 50pts on top of everything else he is doing which is completely possible when he is in his grove than the mavs will get blown out, there is really no way to guard boston if they leave tatum 1v1 then he is going to score if they double or triple team him the rest of the team scores, it's a lose lose for dallas and this is a great basketball team full of great players, playing at the highest level
Bro, when I play 2k by myself vs PC I always switch to their best guard and abuse them in the paint over and over until they sub out. Lol Boston, good job.
I lowkey hope they win and he averages 13 rebounds and 16-17 points or something. Mf doesn’t even really need to score like that no more. He can really just be boogeyman just everywhere and shit. Superstars PLAY BASKETBALL the best. Means if they can’t score, they’re gonna find a way to do something only they can provide.
JT an Brown Learned Lessons from 2022 Lost Too GS.... DON'T PLAY ISO Basketball in the NBA Finals.. You Freeze your Teamates Out An Give the NBA Trophy Too the opponents
Exactly what I have says in other post. I rather he struggle and keep playing hard on defense, and pass the ball. Because if he get hot, he won't pass much
Tatum has had a better series than luka.....luka stats: 60-18-11 12TOs....tatum: 34-20-17 9T....meanwhile luka has played near zero D while tatum has SHUTDOWN THE FIVE.....THE FIVE!!! WITH 20 BOARDS TO SHOW FOR IT...luka in man tatum in double
basketball=team sport…. how many assist Tatum had? at least 25 pts came thanks to his decisions….they could be all misses if he was thinking about his point stats…
@@howsittastes and 2-0 where it counts. In large part because of his passing, rebounding and court awareness. Luka is lighting up the scoreboard. He’s down 0-2. Learn to read what’s in front of you please.
Tatum showboats more than anyone on the team! And when was the last time he was solid when it really mattered? He needs to be traded for Williams III (get him back).
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What’s not mentioned either is how Tatum is primarily guarding the Mavs’ centers (who he’s shorter and lighter than). Dallas had 54 lob-dunks throughout the playoffs and they have
shutting down the FIVE w 20 boards!!!!!
These haters are blind to greatness!!!! If the Celtics win a ring Tatum will be immortalized in Celtics history as a great.
They want that selfish guy that they can promote. Not a low key star who does whatever to win and plays team basketball. They even admitted it on ESPN. Literally said, he can't be top 5 playing team ball. Those exact words. It's sad that the NBA media has gotten to where it's at.
Bingo. Said something similar about tim duncan as well. ESPN doesnt like team ball. Its boring.
They like heliocentric/hero ball. They prefer to compare players to simplify things instead of comparing teams.
ESPN also has a bias against defense. Its not marketable.
@@TheRobversion1 exactly. I would rather watch team ball myself but I know I'm not just a casual fan. Most people want that guy.
@@miked5814 yup. Everyone has that superman complex they want to identify with. these celtics arent superman. These are the avengers.
@@TheRobversion1 I like that analogy. That's good.
Why you think no one puts tim duncan top 5 but have kobe top 3
Those who criticize Tatum are blind. Yeah, he's not shooting so well, but that's only part of the game. He's a team player, scoring, passing, rebounding and defending. He can do that because he plays in a better team.
Hope Tatum has a monster offensive game Wednesday so everyone gets off his back.
I'm a Tatum guy, he really needs to develop a 10-16 footer and he could be the man. Bill Simmons was pointing that out with some stats. I'm hoping Tatum finds the groove in Dallas , people will mention our great road record but just forget to mention Daddy Tatum is the big reason for that!! Go Celtics, two more!!
Yeah but Tatum has not been his best but he doesn’t need to be his best at scoring
He has been his best everywhere else and that means just as much
That's soooo correct. Big he doesn't score 40 pts people give him shit. But there are so many great players, he doesn't have to. Unlike Dallas...Luka has to score 30-40 or more for them to win
So far two double doubles and game 2 one rebound from a triple double 18pts 9reb 12 assists. He is doing exactly what this team needs to win #18 🍀🍀🍀🍀
@@mycatsloveeachother6648 yeah Dallas system sucks, no ball movement
@@denyosworldsport6130 100% iso
At the end of the day, idc about what the haters say, JT is playing winning basketball and were 4 days away from being champs, but I would love to see him drop a 35 or 40 piece in one of these games just as icing on the cake and our haters can pull out the remaining strands of hair they have☘️
The only thing that is bothersome in Tatums struggles are the Layups. Everyone was cold for Boston so Tatum struggling to shoot isn’t as bad. If you watch the game though his 13 2nd half points were big buckets. And since all the media and fake Mavs fans what to talk Hypotheticals, Tatum plays better on the road so he might go off but realistically as long as they win real Celtics fans will be happy.
they are letting him get fouled hard on almost everyone
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Celtics game plan: stop Ky and Luka make the rest of the team beat them.
Mavs game plan: stop Tatum make the rest of the team beat them.
The difference is clear in the final results.
The biggest difference is Luka is being single covered and it's fine. Tatum has 3-5 guys on him. I'd love for Mavs to single cover Tatum like the Cs do to Luka.
@@subliminakeys1674 mavs can’t do single coverage on Tatum because they hunt Luka on defense and blows by him almost every time to make a play . Tatum should have had more than 12 assists if boston knocked down the 3ball but they went 10/39
No its actually the other way, stop others and let Luka score, they are not doubling him
@@denyosworldsport6130 they're not doubling him but they're targeting him to wear him down.
@denyosworldsport6130 yes. They let him play 1 on 1 against us then we attack luka whenever his on the court so he can be tired offensively
All the hate on JT is RIDICULOUS STRAIGHT UP!!! THOSE PEOPLE ARE NOT AUTHENTIC GENUINE CELTICS FANS AND THEY KNOW WHO THEY ARE. I KNOW ONE IN THE CHAT AND HE DIRECTLY STANDS OUT💯💯💯JT's playmaking has improved drastically over the last few yrs along with his defense. He is an incredible talented player and has done alot to help this team get to where they are at. Both jays are AMAZING!!! people who hate are just CASUALS!!💯💯💯💯 PAYTON PRITCHARD EVEN SAID THAT. ANYWAYS 1 WIN AWAY FROM BEING 1 WIN AWAY 🏆. GREAT BREAKDOWN MY MAN MATT ☘️☘️☘️☘️💪💪⚡⚡⚡⚡⚡
Luka's stats: 62-12-21 12 TO's 45% FT. Tatum: 34-17-20 9 TO's 75% FT +25. The hate is nonsense.
By the 3rd quarter Luka is gassed & his face is red from exhaustion. I’m still hoping we get at least one vintage JT game where he’s unstoppable & hitting every thing.
Me too..i want a game on jt in this series he is go off and dominate scoring wise just shut up the haters on him..but even he cat do it as long as they winning the chip..im all on it..go celtic 2 w to go and boston will be tha nba champion once again..banner 18 is underway fellow celtics fans..hopingvfir a sweep to shut up also the nba media that went against boston
Stream was great, love matt
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If we really gonna count.
How many times tatum created spot up opportunities for his team. How many pick and rolls he stopped just by being able to defend the center and switch. And how many pts he lost cause he couldn't make a shot.
Now let's count how many easy blowbys luka gave up resulting in easy buckets. Luka turnovers. How many spot up oppurtunities he created. And how good he shot the basketball.
I can guarantee that tatum is gonna have way more impact by a mile just cause luka is a terrible defender.
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Jayson Tatum need stop MORE BRICKS THREES IMMEDIATELY
Media defense on Tatum criticism after the championship - “what do you want us to say? He was missing a lot of shots“
My man Sam Hauser telling Tatum that Jrue was up to something
Unbeliebabble JT and the celts playing great. Id be worried if I was the Mavs but the series is not over yet
Horrible coaching for Dallas and with Luka not defending or not being a solid defender this series is over.
Why would you give anyone the baseline? Play a 2 1 2 zone but run it tight where the 5 spot player defends all sides by moving up or down. No player should have blindsided access to the baseline... WTH? Kyrie and Luka in the paint? Hilarious!
Also u see kyrie not closing the gaps? He was doing it in minnesota my celts got his number since he was in brooklyn.
Luka was single covered for nearly 2 games and only had 30.
Imagine what would happen if Dallas single covered Tatum... He would be absolutely destroying them.. he still is, even on a horrible shooting streak
cue the luka harden narratives again.
Tatum has outplayed luka as a passer this series. Rebounding about equal. Tatum has the edge on defense and utility (like screens, off-ball movement, etc) while luka has the edge in shooting. Tatum however is ridiculed while luka is praised. Goes to show the bias for offense vs. defense. The win record shows thoufh which matters more. IMO JT is doing at least close to Luka..
Tatum has had a better series than luka.....luka stats: 60-18-11 12TOs....tatum: 34-20-17 9T....meanwhile luka has played near zero D while tatum has SHUTDOWN THE FIVE.....THE FIVE!!! WITH 20 BOARDS TO SHOW FOR IT
@@ceerawlins3412 agreed. tatum is underappreciated.
I must confess, I cringe when he shoots 3 pointers but I have had such high expectations. But Jason has become an incredibly well-rounded star.
Tatum has trouble shooting when rushed
Here’s the Pugh Matrix for the NBA Finals (Mattydubs version)
Result for C’s: Win Lose JT plays great 1 2
JT plays poorly 3 4
Key to potential outcomes:
1) if JT plays great and the Celtics win, JT is the GOAT
2) if JT plays great but the Celtics lose, JT is the GOAT
3) If JT plays poorly, but the Celtics win, JT is the GOAT.
4) If JT plays poorly and the Celtics lose, JT is the GOAT
Wilt got all the individual records. Meanwhile, Russell got 11 championships.
Why do we Celtics fans need to ignore his terrible shooting. I understand he's doing good things in other areas, but offensively he's terrible
Then you aren't a fan. You're just a young person, lost and just barely able to note the basics. Of course then you'll note that Tatum isn't scoring. Is Tatum not allowed to get a cold streak? Would you prefer that we have a repeat of the last time we were in the ECF, or the finals? When Tatum was impossible to guard but Brown had major ball protection issues and the Celtics lost after being down 0-3? If you can't see why it is more important that Tatum does other things better than score, just keep watching.
It's not about ignoring it... It's about the fact that the Celtics won this game because of Tatum in spite of horrible shooting.
Of course fans want him to at least shoot his average. But he is literally more impactful than Luka by far even shooting this way. Tatum is controlling the game, both sides of the floor. No lobs? Tatum.. Kyrie not getting clutch shots? Tatum stole the ball from him like he was nothing. Lukas worn out? Well he's fat, but Tatum just kept hammering him over and over and over. Made him useless in the 4th. The entire Celtics offense, Tatum. Dude had 12 assists when his team shot 25% on 40 3s.
If the Mavs single cover Tatum like the Cs do to Luka, Tatum would have well over 30.
Tatums shooting is horrible and he's still the most impactful player on the floor and no other player in the NBA is well rounded enough to pull that off
Shooting is only one part of Offense.
It was bad but he put up 7 more assists than his season average. Plus he was getting to the paint, making the defense collapse almost at will. Luka had 8 TOs which can be considered just as bad as Tatums shooting last night. He didn’t do great but it wasn’t a bad performance.
Because if tatum get hot. He probably wont pass much and be selfish. So I rather he play like that and we get the win
Tatum’s actually pretty good 😊 The people who deserve derision (or pity) are those who credit JT for wins/good plays but don’t credit him for losses/bad plays.
The same foolishness happened for years with Brady - and Belechick.
The media wants super stars to play solo in a team sport. It’s like they want them to put up 40+ a night even it means losing It makes no sense. Celtics are doing everything right and it’s still not enough for the talking heads
Luka needs to be a little more enthusiastic on the defensive end if he ever wants a chip.
Hes tired from carrying. And thats the problem with heliocentric teams. If the others cant cover for the heliocentric star, they are operating 4 v 5 defensively.
Tatum had a great night but there were a few times he should have made the points as well, 18pts is nothing to scoff at to begin with if he was any body else they would have called that a good scoring game but if he drops 30 40 or even 50pts on top of everything else he is doing which is completely possible when he is in his grove than the mavs will get blown out, there is really no way to guard boston if they leave tatum 1v1 then he is going to score if they double or triple team him the rest of the team scores, it's a lose lose for dallas and this is a great basketball team full of great players, playing at the highest level
Finals MVPs in order;
Jrue Holiday
Jaylen Brown
Jayson Tatum
Bro, when I play 2k by myself vs PC I always switch to their best guard and abuse them in the paint over and over until they sub out. Lol Boston, good job.
As long as he is leading the team to victory, who cares if he is a big-time bricklayer?
THATS ALL BULL. WE LOVE THE WHOLE CELTIC ORGANIZATION. 🎉
I lowkey hope they win and he averages 13 rebounds and 16-17 points or something. Mf doesn’t even really need to score like that no more. He can really just be boogeyman just everywhere and shit. Superstars PLAY BASKETBALL the best. Means if they can’t score, they’re gonna find a way to do something only they can provide.
So they guard Tatum like he’s Tai Lung in Kung Fu Panda and somehow he’s not the biggest threat? Then why are you guarding him like that?
Tatum is not forceful enough, he tries to go around players all the time, sometimes he needs to go through them and get a foul
JT an Brown Learned Lessons from 2022 Lost Too GS.... DON'T PLAY ISO Basketball in the NBA Finals.. You Freeze your Teamates Out An Give the NBA Trophy Too the opponents
Ironically enough, I bet you if tatum drops 30-35 points but have less assists and rebounds because if it, they probably lose
Exactly what I have says in other post. I rather he struggle and keep playing hard on defense, and pass the ball. Because if he get hot, he won't pass much
If Tatum were shooting better and still doing the other stuff, Celtics would easily win the four games.
13:48 we see what now?
Luka is making Tatum his new son, after Booker and Edwards. Mavs in 6!
Mavs in 8
Yeah that didn't happen. L take.
Mavs a bunch of ball watchers 🤭
Tatum has had a better series than luka.....luka stats: 60-18-11 12TOs....tatum: 34-20-17 9T....meanwhile luka has played near zero D while tatum has SHUTDOWN THE FIVE.....THE FIVE!!! WITH 20 BOARDS TO SHOW FOR IT...luka in man tatum in double
JT disappears in playoffs 🤦♂️. He’s not even being doubled team…
Dude has a terrible shooting %………jacks up bad shots early in the offensive possession.🤷🏻♂️
I guess some fans want JT to drive and crash into three guys standing in the paint and cause an offensive foul.
Wouldn’t happen. He gets the “star pass” so they’d call a block, even if it was a charge.
@@spareplanet You are on one based upon your post.
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mAvS iN 6?!?!????
Lmao why does it need to stop? Tatum has been terrible the last 2 games. I mean awful, terrible, not helping at apl
Don't know ball
basketball=team sport…. how many assist Tatum had? at least 25 pts came thanks to his decisions….they could be all misses if he was thinking about his point stats…
@@howsittastes with 3 wins. Maybe theres more than 2 stats in basketball. Casual
@@howsittastes and 2-0 where it counts. In large part because of his passing, rebounding and court awareness. Luka is lighting up the scoreboard. He’s down 0-2. Learn to read what’s in front of you please.
1 assist shy of a triple double, yeah helping absolutely no one. EXCEPT THE ENTIRE CELTICS TEAM CRUUUUSH LOLLOLOL idiot.
Tatum showboats more than anyone on the team! And when was the last time he was solid when it really mattered? He needs to be traded for Williams III (get him back).