Nah, Tails is a cuck Too many times have I had my speed ruined by Tails flying in and randomly picking me up, yet suddenly when I _want_ him to pick me up, he just kinda stands there looking at me instead of starting to fly
He only drops up the rings you all ready missed, the special stages are flawed for drastically increasing the difficulty just because an inexperienced fox boi joined you.
I remember reading somewhere that in early versions of the game, Tails was intended to be a guardian of Westside Island(the island where Sonic 2 takes place) akin to how Knuckles was the guardian of Angel Island in Sonic 3. Tails was depicted as a Kitsune and his goal was to lead you inward towards the location of the Hidden Palace, where Sonic would ultimately locate the resting place of the 7th, and final Chaos Emerald. Another interesting bit of trivia: The Sonic series dropped subtle hints towards the existence of the Echidna tribe long before Sonic 3. In Sonic 1's Labyrinth Zone, there are blocks that make up the foreground, some of which are marked with an owl-like insignia. These Insignias are also peppered throughout Hydrocity Zone's aquaducts in Sonic 3. What's more is that Sonic 2's JP prologue mentions that Westside Island was once the home of an ancient civilization(The Echidna Tribe) that waged war amongst itself over control of the Chaos Emeralds, resulting in a great cataclysm(very likely the birth of SA1's Chaos) before they fled the island. We get to see small snippets of this story retold in Sonic Adventure during the flashback sequences with Tikal. While I wouldn't consider Sonic Adventure a relevant canon to consult when considering Classic Sonic lore, I feel that it's use of this storytelling element signifies that the writers still felt the need to address this untouched chapter. The final piece of evidence that ties this theory together was that the removed zone, 'Hidden Palace' was later used in Sonic 3. While it's true that Sonic 2's Hidden Palace Zone featured no Master Emerald, it did feature lookalikes which could be shattered with a jump. One could infer that the Master Emerald was once simply, one of these breakable gems prior to Chaos' imprisonment within its' facets. Upon Chaos being sealed away, the survivors of the Echidna tribe relocated the M.E to their new home on Angel Island. In conclusion: Sonic 2's Hidden Palace was likely the origin-place of SA1's Chaos and Angel Island's Master Emerald.
16:48 well they didn't have all the other characters, so there was no such convention of "X the Y". Miles "Tails" Prower comes from localisation concerns between the Japanese and US market, Japanese market having the name Miles, US market Tails - by designating "Tails" as a nick-name and "Miles" as the real name created a real golden nugget of world-building and character building. They turned a localisation concern difference into a small bit of character building which added far more personality to the character than "Tails the Fox" would have done. As a gamer, this kind of stuff might seem needless to you, but it contributed to turning Tails into a marketing point for Sonic 2 - along with the bizarreness of having two-tails (which in Japan would have been less bizarre, as multi-tailed fox creatures already existed as part of Japanese folk-lore). I can definitely say that as a child I used to talk to my friends about how Tail's real name is Miles and then we'd all gather round the TV or read the instruction booklet and try to find the name "Miles" and the game felt really cool whenever we saw the name, felt like it was hinting at a secret inside the game. It was another thing to talk about in the playground, even with kids who didn't own the game - and that's how video game marketing worked back in those days. The entire rant came across as grasping at straws, the reality is Miles "Tails" Prower was a good bit of easy lore & character building and drove the marketing behind a two-tailed fox companion for Sonic. It does nothing for the gameplay itself (story never does), but it did loads for the brand.
Well, I feel like there is a misconception here. Tails does not take away from YOUR ring count in special stages. He has his own amount of rings, and he's also behind you. So, technically, he only gets the rings you would have missed regardless. Though, I didnt know he made the ring count required go up. Also, Tails is muh boi. You get off my fluffy, tiny, two tailed, lightning fearing, mechanic child or I will fight you. Strangely enough, I never knew why I took such a liking to Tails. I think it might have been Sat AM Tails but even then his character wasnt super compelling. I do find it funny that I never noticed that Tails defeats both past and future naming convention. Miles the Prower will be a thing I will have to use from now on. "My favorite character in Sonic has to be Miles the Prower."
About the special stages, he will sometimes jump in front of you which will cause him to block you from getting rings, so he still ends up dicking you out of winning the special stages. He is terrible in them. ;-;
Sonic+Tails is hard mode in this game. Nice if you want an extra challenge, because you have to collect even more rings total and make sure Tails doesn't get hit (usually by moving or jumping earlier than you would if you were playing alone).
Was I the only one that thought the obvious solution was to have a friend play as Tails for you? Like, not a kid brother that doesn't know how to play, but another adult that at has at least an average level of skill at classic Sonic. It makes getting the emeralds easier even if they increased the ring count. Your friend won't be fucked over by lag the same way the AI Tails is.
He saved me on my early playthroughs by defeating bosses when I had dropped all my rings, after he would just stand there all like "Really, you think that's hard?". Also final boss is easy and no-one can make me think otherwise.
At least you can listen to the jam that is the music. Still not sure why it _does_ have three acts, but I think it has something to do with Genocide City.
Did you know that Tails was originally meant to be a tanooki, but that idea was scrapped because of Mario's tanooki powerup. Besides, i prefer my orange kitsune boi anyway ^^
@@Raviolling They're called kitsunes, and they're gods. Tails had only two tails to represent his inexperience. They later changed this to him having a genetic oopsie, which I think is a shame.
@@SonDeku-y5x I can't remember the exact source. I've known it for as long as I've known Tails. I think I read it on Sonic News Network, but I'm not entirely sure.
10:44 I totally agree with you about the final boss. As a kid I just couldn't get the timing down, mostly because I was too impatient. When I got older it got much easier. Now I can beat it with Knuckles, where the weak spot is just above where you can jump. Throwing Sonic 2 on top of S&K made for an interesting experience, to say the least. At least Knuckles makes Metropolis way easier. Point is, this boss was hard, but it's the kind of boss that can be beaten with experience and persistence. It was a classic 90s boss. Plus, that aesthetic was amazing.
@@crisclay2678 i loved doing this. if you hit every single one you would get super sonic by about 2/3 of the way through act 2 and then the rest of the game was a joke
Someone else pointed that out to me a couple years ago when I made this video. I kinda regret even making that point, just something I got into my brain as a kid. No idea why.
8:25 I love that you made us wait to watch you muddle though Metropolis Zone. We feel your pain. At least the Staryu(s?) don't come back after they use Self Destruct. That Scyther, though...
There’s a difference between taken to Green Hill-like levels, 1-1-like or Dreamland-like levels, and being taken to those exact same levels over and over. Sega has a tendency to make nearly 1:1 remakes of Green Hill over and over. Notice how no one complained about Seaside Hill despite it being the checkboard, spiky grass, seaside level? It’s because it had its own identity and could easily be distinguished from the other stages like it (Green Hill, Emerald Hill, Angel Island, Green Grove, Emerald Coast, Palmtree PanIc, hell, even Splash Hill.) It’s not that people mind the checkerboard, grassy plain stages. Rather people mind being taken back to Green Hill every game.
I feel like Angel Island and Emerald Coast shouldn't be grouped in the Green Hill knockoffs. For angel island it is more of a jungle type level and the fire changes the aesthetic greatly. And for emerald coast it is a beach level for the most part.
My favorite Sonic 2 Bosses. 1. Death Egg - Death Egg Robot Such an impressive and challenging final boss, and a huge step up from Sonic 1. No matter how many times to beat this game, you'll feel satisfied knowing you conquered Robotnik at his absolute best. 2. Wing Fortress Zone A fittingly difficult boss fight for the final full zone. Robotnik finally has you cornered and unleashes a deady trap to end you for good. 3. Emerald Hill Zone A simple, yet iconic first boss. This also the first time Robotnik used a ground-based machine, aside from the pistons in Final Zone, showing an early glimpse of the diversity he's bringing to the table compared to Sonic 1. 4. Oil Ocean Zone A memorable boss that shows off Robotnik's ingenuity. He makes his escape under the dangerous Oil Ocean, forcing Sonic to deal with his deadly (and invulnerable) weapons until he returns. 5. Death Egg - Mecha (Silver) Sonic While technically not the first Sonic doppelganger, it was the first to pose a legitimate threat. This guy guards Robotnik, and he keeps coming back every time the Egg Robot takes you down. 6. Metropolis Zone This boss was a step up in difficulty compared to everything that came before. If it wasn't for that precious ring tether it would likely be even harder than the Death Egg Robot. Timing your hits is difficult, and Robotnik flees to safety every time you manage a hit. 7. Mystic Cave Zone This boss is all about aesthetic. As he drills through the ground it feels like he's trying to bury you alive. The real challenge is dodging debris. 8. Aquatic Ruin Zone Robotnik's weapon is just a hammer, but it's what he does with it that matters. He uses the environment against you, and Sonic needs to do the same to turn the tables. 9. Casino Night Zone It's fun to spin up and down the walls, but you can be completely derailed if you're not careful. The setting is fun, giving you much of the mechanics from a great zone, but the boss is comparatively uninspired. Chances are Robotnik will spend most of the time offscreen as you zoom around the stage. With such a big arena to explore it would help if Robotnik moved around more. 10. Chemical Plant Zone This can be aggravating if you have Tails jump in front of Sonic, causing him to tumble into a quick death if you're unlucky enough to land when the floor is flipped. Aside from the stage hazard, this boss is pretty simple. 11. Hill Top Zone This isn't a bad boss battle, but it just ended up down here because there isn't much to it. Robotnik comes out of the lava, shoots fire at you, and repeats from the other side.
So just coming from your Tails video, "It burns us, precious!" I can tell that your eldest brother experiences really came projecting out here. So it was lovely to see where you started to where you ended up. Thank you for the video!
I have watched this video over a hundred times, and I only noticed just now that the Luigi picture is based off of Jotaru from JoJo. No I'm serious, look: 19:41
Sonic the Hedgehog 2...... At 32 years old, this is THE game that made me a gamer. Changed my life. My first ever game that came with the Sega Genesis we got for Christmas in whatever year that was.
1992. Same story for me, though I played other games a bit before I got my first console. This was the first game that was truly mine, and that makes it very special.
My favorite Sonic 2 songs. Taste in music is heavily based on personal preference, so there are no wrong answers here. 1. Chemical Plant Zone A sweet, jazzy song. There's a reason this zone keeps coming back, and the song is a big part of it. 2. Metropolis Zone An edgy techno beat that makes you feel like you're in a big mechanical city. The automated obstacles it the Zone move along with the beat, making it feel alive. 3. Mystic Cave Zone A fittingly eerie song with a great bass riff to go with it. This track feels menacing and fits well with the underground theme of the zone. 4. Casino Night Zone A chill jazz song that makes you want to slow down and gamble some rings. This song would fit in just fine playing in a casino on an endless loop. 5. Emerald Hill Zone A vibrant song that just makes you want to run. 6. Aquatic Ruin Zone Makes you feel like you're entering a strange aquatic land. The fast-past song works better if you're dashing through the top half of the zone. 7. Oil Ocean Zone An exotic song that has a bit of a Middle-Eastern vibe. The sound is as unique as the level itself. There's never really been anything quite like this in a Sonic game. 8. Wing Fortress Zone A booming, triumphant song. It gets a bit choppy in some places because of the sound effects. 9. Hill Top Zone I'm just not a fan of country/western. If you are, that's just fine, but I'm not. 10. Death Egg Zone This song is kind of odd, but you aren't meant to listen very long. It gets a bit too shrill if you wait a while, but why would you? 11. Sky Chase Zone Just lulls you to sleep, which would be fine if it wasn't the semi-final level in a Sonic game. It fits with the level, but the level doesn't fit with the game. Overall, this is a great soundtrack. Every song fits very well with the level it's in.
I've always wondered why the final boss has no rings to fight, then I noticed that on the classics they ALWAYS put the last checkpoint before the boss without any rings if you not backtrack. So I think the developers idea is that the ideal fight with the bosses are suposed to be without rings if you fail? Probably.
Great stuff, I was thoroughly entertained. Have you ever played Sonic Jam on the Saturn? They actually put the spin dash into their port of sonic 1 and I feel that it greatly improved the game. Amazing what a difference one little tweak can make.
Yeah, completely agree. I'm going to be dedicating an episode to that once I get to the Saturn trilogy. The Sonic Saturn games are actually why I wanted to start this show.
Nice. Do you already own Sonic Jam then? If not, I recommend getting a Japanese region copy. Much cheaper and has virtually no language barrier except for some extras in the "sonic world" part. Even there it isn't too bad.
Same. Tails' inclusion in Sonic 2 settled a LOT of sibling rivalry in our household. My sister wasn't skilled enough to play as Sonic (to be fair, she was 4), but she wanted to play. Tails requires little to no skill as the P2, so problem solved. Thanks, Sega!
It's weird, but the shift in gameplay and extra act of Metropolis zone were actually a fresh break, for me anyway.... and that music is so damned catchy =D
I agree. Metropolis Zone was a difficult level that required patience and prescision, but it wasn't as broken as a certain underwater nightmare in the original Sonic. Also, that soundtrack is great. Kind of reminds me of Dancing Days.
The more I think about it, the more sense Tails makes. He's not a fox He's a kitsune They are key mythological figures in Japanese folklore - A fox after so long alive is thought to grow another tail, and gain one for every 100 years alive, up to 9. Kitsune can be good or evil, and are known shapeshifters. Tails, as seen in Sonic Lost World, can move each fur strand on his tails independently. His method of flight doesn't make sense as it's actually _magic_ - He's, whether or not Tails actually realizes this, is shape shifting his tails to work like helicoptor blades This also means Tails has a lot more potential than other characters
good analysis; in fact, it was my first thought when i first saw him as a kid playing sonic 2, it's not even helping we don't even know a thing about his origins. A story like that has potential: tails questions himself and he goes around the world looking for answers using the tornado, eggman is plotting something in a japan stand-in, tails notices it, tries to stop him and maybe he can find clues about his past there. Now, i'm not saying he has to be 2000 y/o and have a kyuubi form (hell nah, that should be avoided). the concept of "using mythologies but make some tweaks for it to fit in your world" exists, sonic team could introduce mythology to sonic's world by using ones from real life but making some changes to fit in and add an original touch. Hell they can even make a case like abe no seimei, half kitsune: one of tail's parents were a kitsune and during birth they gave him one of their tails, thus the high intelligence and being able to fly while still looking like a regular fox and being 8.
Recently came across your videos, and I saw your S&K/Sonic 3 video first where you talked better about Tails but hinted at your feelings about him. In my house, the better player usually played as Tails over Sonic. Sonic player’s only job was to not die. Tails player’s job was to wreck everything, at least until the Sonic only stages at the end. See Dorkly’s Tails Can’t Die video for reference. I loved the character until the 3D games, but even then I still liked him.
Metropolis has 3 acts because of Cyber City (Genocide City), a scrapped industrial level similar to Metropolis, that would be between metropolis, and sky chase, it's layout was recycled for Metropolis 3.
This was the first game I was ever hyped about. I remember watching the first gameplay from a VHS video that I got with a Mean Machines magazine and just watched the gameplay over and over. The idea of playing two players, on the same screen, at the same time, was just mind blowing. And I loved Tails. A character that can fly! This was mind blowing back in the day. Seriously, the marketing for this games was just incredible (in the UK, anyway). It wouldnt be until the Dreamcast era before I got so super excited for another video game (I loved the Saturn, but that system had games I only got hyped for after I had bought, played, and loved). Sonic 2 really is a hard game to quantify just how excited it was unless you were there at the time of its build up and release.
I did love Tails back then. I found him adorable, especially when he yawned, looked up, or ducked like he was getting ready to pounce something. Adventure turning him into a nerd who...speaks...ruined his character entirely for me. But I loved Mute Tails in these classic games. My only issue was I kept trying for months, trying to figure out how to make Tails fly. Wasn't til Sonic 3 came out when I realized he wasn't CAPABLE of flying. ...So why did the game keep teasing that he COULD fly, and not actually have the ability to do so? This is my most major gripe about Sonic 2. I always wanted to play the remake, unfortunately mobile games are unplayable... Why won't they just release it on console or Steam? Bought it for my Cellphone, and just can't play it. It's impossible.
The touch controls on Sonic 1 and 2 mobile are a lot better because you don't have to hit the button exactly and can adjust the size if the D-pad. It translates super well but a controller is better. I mean you could connect a Joy-Con or something to it using Bluetooth.
I've been wondering where you've been. Great video. Love the 2 player split screen aspect of this game its so great which you didn't go into much. I was as really excited to see the 2 player split screen on Sonic 3 and then horrified when I saw it. Looking forward to your next video.
Thanks! My personal life has been kind of a nightmare, so videos haven't been a top priority. But I'm going to try to get them out a little more frequently. And yeah, never played much of the split screen myself, so I didn't have much to say. Sorry.
I find the split screen in Sonic 2 works because it is a compressed version of the main art, with all the physics tuned to make it feel right. It falls apart in Sonic 3 not because they simply scaled down the sprites but because they didn't do as good a job making it feel right. Also, nice icon. Did you really meet the Sonic mascot?
Haha... Tails was definitely older brother mode. I'm 36 and to this day, my brother is the designated Tails player whenever we fire up these 2D Sonic games. Having Tails able to fly and carry Sonic in 3 was a godsend at the time. HAHA
just watched your sonic 3 and & knuckles vids.. glad to see your vids getting recommended. your criticisms feel so genuine and clearly reflect a good personality. you provide commentary with a bit of your own past experiences sprinkled in, rather than plainly reviewing the game. please keep it up
My favorite levels in Sonic 2. It was tough to come up with this list since there are so many good zones to pick from. Please don't judge me, but feel free to leave your own opinion. 1. Casino Night Zone Never has underage gambling been so much fun. This is a flashy level that sucks up plenty of play time. 2. Chemical Plant Zone You never forget the first time you go down that big hill. Sonic was so fast he practically blasted right off the screen, and Sega made sure everybody knew that. 3. Mystic Cave Zone Some nice obstacles and a very cool design help this zone stand out. 4. Metropolis Zone I don't hate this zone. It's challenging, and has some real tough enemies, but it makes you feel pretty good after you beat it. 5. Emerald Hill Zone Right from the start we get a great opening zone. There are plenty of loops to zip through and, unlike Green Hill Zone, there isn't much to slow you down. 6. Oil Ocean Zone There are some great mechanics here that utilize the viscosity of oil. This zone has the most interesting ways to get around, with oil slides, elevators, flame-propelled platforms and cannons. 7. Hill Top Zone Plenty of uphill climbs here, as the name suggests. There are some interesting sections when you get underground. 8. Aquatic Ruin Zone I always forget this level exists. It's a fun little zone, but it doesn't do enough to stand out, particularly compared to the levels before and after it. By the time I'm halfway through Casino Night Zone I've already forgotten it. 9. Wing Fortress Zone A big, empty zone with some frustrating sections hovering over big, empty deathpits. I always thought this was pretty bland for a final level, with beige as the primary color. 10. Sky Chase Zone It's not bad, but it's mostly just there. This Is basically a Sonic railshooter that forces you to move at the zone's pace. The turtle badniks are the best part. There isn't really a bad zone in Sonic 2 in my opinion. The decisive top two for me are all-time greats that can really go in any order. After that it was really hard to decide on the order for #3-8.
My first experience with Sonic was from my Uncle's Genesis. And Sonic 2 was the pack in game with the Genesis Model 2. But despite the hours I poured into it, I didn't actually beat it until years later with Sonic Mega Collection. And I never did get all the Emeralds.
Casino Night was partly to blame for why it took me so long to beat this game. As a 6-year old I was only allowed so much time to play video games, and it always took me three or four hours to get through Casino Night Zone. JUST ONE... MORE... EXTRA... LIFE!!!
I have never previously seen that "free Sonic 2 with the purchase of the former" commercial before, yet when I was six I took advantage of the free game, and boy did I have lots of fun with it.
@Muse Suse I mean, y'know, he *is* right It's why I've never got into Mario. Every couple of years I'll throw Mario World on and REALLY try to get into it. I'll get a power up and go "Wow, that's cool" (stuff like the floating/flying cape), but within five minutes I'm bored. There are a few reasons, but yeah, even when I got past my Sega fanboyism and started really enjoying the SNES library, Mario never grabbed me
Ok but I love the commercial for sonic 2 that treats it like a “as seen on TV” commercial. Extra: Reminder, this was made in the 90s, y’know, when “as seen on TV” ads were not a comedic set piece. Products like flex tape and slap chop became memes these past two decades, so having a sonic game poke fun at those ads makes it so much better. Plus, the actual gameplay is such a minor feature in the commercial, it’s like “oh hey, this is a actual game by the way, ok back to cleaning solutions”. I love it so much
Metropolis Zone is actually one of my all time favorite Sonic the Hedgehog levels. Wing Fortress being close to it in terms of how much I love it. You can always tell only children from younger brothers by their attitude towards Tails. If you always played the game alone and relied on the AI in Sonic 2, you hate him. If you were handed the player 2 controller and helped achieve massive victories against the bosses by abusing your invincibility you recognize him as a badass and a very useful sidekick. In short, Tails is the best Sonic character and primary redeeming factor of the series.
Partially agree, Metropolis is a favorite of mine but Winged Fortress always seemed boring. Speaking of Metropolis, I don't recall having many issues with the screws honestly.
This game is the reason why I became a gamer. This was the first video game I ever played and I’m happy that’s part of my life even meeting great people due to me picking up a controller for the first time. So this game is special to me.
I'll be honest, I started playing Sonic on a collection disk on my PS1 when I was like 6, and I didn't know Miles Prower was a pun til like, last month
7:45 no it's not, it's exactly the same size. All the Sonic games on the Genesis/Mega Drive are at the same resolution with the Sonic sprite being the same size. There is no concept of a "camera" as this is 2D, fixed-resolution graphics, further more the hardware back then didn't have the capability of "zooming" or enlarging the entire screen (even the SNES could only zoom and rotate 1 background layer, not the entire screen with all the sprites). One thing that did change between Sonic 1 and Sonic 2 is the size of the level chunks, which went from 256x256 pixels in Sonic 1 to 128x128 in Sonic 2, which meant more detail in stages could be crammed into a smaller view-area, which may give the impression that Sonic looks larger and that he moves through the stage faster, but this definitely is not the reality, just the perception.
It's because if you have a second player with you (who is conpetant), getting the rings is A LOT easier. Which makes getting the emerald easier. So to counter that, they add 10/20 rings you have to get per round. Sometimes more depending on the level. (When I was playing alone. I'd pause the game and ask mom to help me get an emerald. It was awesome XD)
I remember being a little boy and seeing that commercial at the end. I loved playing Sonic 2, but I was always worried I wasn't doing it right because I didn't have a tackle box.
Also another fun fact that: in sonic 2 simon wai prototype - beta 4 prototype? When the level select still looks from sonic 1 emerald hill zone was called green hill zone Toycat is yes
I remember seeing somewhere when I was little that in the bad ending of Sonic 2 Tails died. I don't remember where I saw it, but wherever I did, I remember they showed also a scene of Sonic running through Emerald Hill at night, I think with the animals following him, and then fireworks in the shape of Tails appear in the background.
About metropolis zone: I know this an old-ass video, but IIRC based on sonicretro and such that it's only 3 acts because they rolled the scrapped Genocide City zone into it. Based on design documents they had, it was going to be something like scrap brain, but ended up being similar enough to the existing metropolis that they simply added it in as a 3rd act with the same assets. From a pure gameplay standpoint, that 3rd act absolutely threw me for a loop though on my first playthrough!
Casino Night Zone's most dangerous enemy...
Is the player's own crippling gambling addiction.
U can say that again.
And that's how Luigi's casino happened
And that's how cupheads beginning started
“So how did you get addicted to gambling?”
“Yeah Sonic 2”
True, if they spend so much time with the slot machines then they go closer to the time limits.
Hey man, don't hate on my boy Tails. He's da bomb.
I had too many jokes! I'm sorry!
'till next time...
Nah, Tails is a cuck
Too many times have I had my speed ruined by Tails flying in and randomly picking me up, yet suddenly when I _want_ him to pick me up, he just kinda stands there looking at me instead of starting to fly
OCShoes he ran into them too in the Special stages
He only drops up the rings you all ready missed, the special stages are flawed for drastically increasing the difficulty just because an inexperienced fox boi joined you.
I remember reading somewhere that in early versions of the game, Tails was intended to be a guardian of Westside Island(the island where Sonic 2 takes place) akin to how Knuckles was the guardian of Angel Island in Sonic 3. Tails was depicted as a Kitsune and his goal was to lead you inward towards the location of the Hidden Palace, where Sonic would ultimately locate the resting place of the 7th, and final Chaos Emerald.
Another interesting bit of trivia: The Sonic series dropped subtle hints towards the existence of the Echidna tribe long before Sonic 3. In Sonic 1's Labyrinth Zone, there are blocks that make up the foreground, some of which are marked with an owl-like insignia. These Insignias are also peppered throughout Hydrocity Zone's aquaducts in Sonic 3. What's more is that Sonic 2's JP prologue mentions that Westside Island was once the home of an ancient civilization(The Echidna Tribe) that waged war amongst itself over control of the Chaos Emeralds, resulting in a great cataclysm(very likely the birth of SA1's Chaos) before they fled the island. We get to see small snippets of this story retold in Sonic Adventure during the flashback sequences with Tikal. While I wouldn't consider Sonic Adventure a relevant canon to consult when considering Classic Sonic lore, I feel that it's use of this storytelling element signifies that the writers still felt the need to address this untouched chapter.
The final piece of evidence that ties this theory together was that the removed zone, 'Hidden Palace' was later used in Sonic 3. While it's true that Sonic 2's Hidden Palace Zone featured no Master Emerald, it did feature lookalikes which could be shattered with a jump. One could infer that the Master Emerald was once simply, one of these breakable gems prior to Chaos' imprisonment within its' facets. Upon Chaos being sealed away, the survivors of the Echidna tribe relocated the M.E to their new home on Angel Island. In conclusion: Sonic 2's Hidden Palace was likely the origin-place of SA1's Chaos and Angel Island's Master Emerald.
Makes a lot of sense, when you think about it. Fridge logic, yes, but brilliant.
And Sonic... is the guardian of Southern Island!
@@frowny_brow Precisely!
@@TeamTrainWreck Noice
Not to mention the Sonic 2 good ending screen has Knuckles in the bush, just like the Sonic 3 boxart does
16:48 well they didn't have all the other characters, so there was no such convention of "X the Y". Miles "Tails" Prower comes from localisation concerns between the Japanese and US market, Japanese market having the name Miles, US market Tails - by designating "Tails" as a nick-name and "Miles" as the real name created a real golden nugget of world-building and character building. They turned a localisation concern difference into a small bit of character building which added far more personality to the character than "Tails the Fox" would have done.
As a gamer, this kind of stuff might seem needless to you, but it contributed to turning Tails into a marketing point for Sonic 2 - along with the bizarreness of having two-tails (which in Japan would have been less bizarre, as multi-tailed fox creatures already existed as part of Japanese folk-lore).
I can definitely say that as a child I used to talk to my friends about how Tail's real name is Miles and then we'd all gather round the TV or read the instruction booklet and try to find the name "Miles" and the game felt really cool whenever we saw the name, felt like it was hinting at a secret inside the game. It was another thing to talk about in the playground, even with kids who didn't own the game - and that's how video game marketing worked back in those days.
The entire rant came across as grasping at straws, the reality is Miles "Tails" Prower was a good bit of easy lore & character building and drove the marketing behind a two-tailed fox companion for Sonic. It does nothing for the gameplay itself (story never does), but it did loads for the brand.
Just making jokes, I promise.
miles prower is a pun on mph
@Casswury That is correct.... if you're talking about the Archie Comics.
@Casswury Also Sonny
Xilefian say tomato for me
"Sonic The Hedgehog, Knuckles The Echidna, Shadow The Hedgehog, Rouge The Boob - BAT - Rouge The Bat, Miles...The Prower." Too funny.
I mean...
He's not wrong...
I thought it was Shadow the Hedge-edge...
We could follow the comic where Sonic's real name is Ogilvie Maurice Hedgehog. No kidding.
@@OniLordMiki Can you PLEASE show me that?
Miles "Tails" Prower
"He has two eyes, that's disgusting!"
Everyone's reaction to the Sonic movie first trailer.
I mean that's true
I’m sure you’d be able to imagine what he’d look like with one eye.
Well, I feel like there is a misconception here. Tails does not take away from YOUR ring count in special stages. He has his own amount of rings, and he's also behind you. So, technically, he only gets the rings you would have missed regardless.
Though, I didnt know he made the ring count required go up.
Also, Tails is muh boi. You get off my fluffy, tiny, two tailed, lightning fearing, mechanic child or I will fight you.
Strangely enough, I never knew why I took such a liking to Tails. I think it might have been Sat AM Tails but even then his character wasnt super compelling. I do find it funny that I never noticed that Tails defeats both past and future naming convention.
Miles the Prower will be a thing I will have to use from now on.
"My favorite character in Sonic has to be Miles the Prower."
About the special stages, he will sometimes jump in front of you which will cause him to block you from getting rings, so he still ends up dicking you out of winning the special stages. He is terrible in them. ;-;
@@jballs5434 Wait, shoot, does he do that?
Man, it's been so long.
@@jballs5434 Isn't that only when you get hurt? Also you can just jump and he'll go back behind.
Sonic+Tails is hard mode in this game. Nice if you want an extra challenge, because you have to collect even more rings total and make sure Tails doesn't get hit (usually by moving or jumping earlier than you would if you were playing alone).
Was I the only one that thought the obvious solution was to have a friend play as Tails for you? Like, not a kid brother that doesn't know how to play, but another adult that at has at least an average level of skill at classic Sonic. It makes getting the emeralds easier even if they increased the ring count. Your friend won't be fucked over by lag the same way the AI Tails is.
9:09 - "it's not exactly hard and it's over pretty quickly" - THAT'S WHAT SHE SAID
I like Tails.
He saved me on my early playthroughs by defeating bosses when I had dropped all my rings, after he would just stand there all like "Really, you think that's hard?".
Also final boss is easy and no-one can make me think otherwise.
I know :)
Tails is useful. Very. Not underwater, though.
Sus ZX
Yea the only reason it’s hard is cuz u don’t have rings
lol
I still remember the moment I discovered the heartbreak of Metropolis Zone having three acts. WHY. WHYYYYYYYYYYY.
At least you can listen to the jam that is the music. Still not sure why it _does_ have three acts, but I think it has something to do with Genocide City.
@@dragonick2947 yep they recycled the layout for act 3
@@dragonick2947 I do wonder why they didn’t move Genocide/Cyber City to Death Egg Zone to make it more than a hallway and two bosses
That moment you played as Tails to get all the emeralds and got... Nothing.
I know how it feels like
"could do what I did as a kid and not care"
Never before have I heard a statement with such power that I agree with
Did you know that Tails was originally meant to be a tanooki, but that idea was scrapped because of Mario's tanooki powerup.
Besides, i prefer my orange kitsune boi anyway ^^
Actually tell this just a nine-tailed fox demon missing seven tails
@@Raviolling They're called kitsunes, and they're gods. Tails had only two tails to represent his inexperience. They later changed this to him having a genetic oopsie, which I think is a shame.
@@dragonick2947 Sources pls about the tails being a kitsune?
@@SonDeku-y5x I can't remember the exact source. I've known it for as long as I've known Tails. I think I read it on Sonic News Network, but I'm not entirely sure.
Foxes are perfect, which is why nobody changes their design much in games and cartoons.
And it already is a long creature, it's hard to go off of that
10:44 I totally agree with you about the final boss. As a kid I just couldn't get the timing down, mostly because I was too impatient. When I got older it got much easier. Now I can beat it with Knuckles, where the weak spot is just above where you can jump. Throwing Sonic 2 on top of S&K made for an interesting experience, to say the least. At least Knuckles makes Metropolis way easier. Point is, this boss was hard, but it's the kind of boss that can be beaten with experience and persistence. It was a classic 90s boss. Plus, that aesthetic was amazing.
I love how in Emerald Hill alone you can grab all seven Chaos Emeralds by the end of the second act if you're good enough
They don’t call it emerald hill for nothing
“Sonic isn’t a nickname”
oh boy are you not ready for what i know
(yes i know his name is Ogilvie Maurice in the Archie comics only but still)
And in the manga, his real name is Nick.
@@dinosaur2022 Agreed.
Extremely True
His middle name was originally supposed to be "The" in the main canon. There was also supposed to be some sort on backstory explaining that.
@@dragonick2947 my head canon is that it is actually “The,” and that it’s short for “Theodore,” and that it just works really conveniently
16:09 "If you memorized the checkpoints like I did when I was a kid you could have Super Sonic midway through the 2nd Act of Emerald Hill"
Saiden u never got it that fast don’t lie bruh
@@crisclay2678 i loved doing this. if you hit every single one you would get super sonic by about 2/3 of the way through act 2 and then the rest of the game was a joke
cris clay I did
Mv2r no u can get it at the 2nd act of emerald hill
I always wait until chemical plant to get Super Sonic because one checkpoint in Emerald hill is too risky to get too.
I didn't realize how deeply ingrained the Sonic 2 soundtrack is in the pleasure centers of my brain before watching this video
7:40 The sprites in Sonic 1, 2 and 3 have the same size...
Someone else pointed that out to me a couple years ago when I made this video. I kinda regret even making that point, just something I got into my brain as a kid. No idea why.
I was gonna point that out too lol
they have the same size but the cameras more zoomed in
@@Mr.OwO2873 Nope! The camera is the same. In these games they don't use camera zooms
@@Mr.OwO2873 You can see the comparison in this image: imgur.com/ohHW4sG
Who else remembers sonic rush? Just asking.
YourPalChase and Rush Adventures
and Sonic Jam.
i do, i think i may have the video for you too
It's pretty good.
Here, here. GameApologist will have to stop his proceed, 'cause this is what he needs!
8:25 I love that you made us wait to watch you muddle though Metropolis Zone. We feel your pain. At least the Staryu(s?) don't come back after they use Self Destruct. That Scyther, though...
mantis and asterons
Was that a real ad from the 90s at the end? Sonic has been meme'ing even since then?
“As an Iowa kid” I found another one of my kind.
There’s a difference between taken to Green Hill-like levels, 1-1-like or Dreamland-like levels, and being taken to those exact same levels over and over.
Sega has a tendency to make nearly 1:1 remakes of Green Hill over and over. Notice how no one complained about Seaside Hill despite it being the checkboard, spiky grass, seaside level? It’s because it had its own identity and could easily be distinguished from the other stages like it (Green Hill, Emerald Hill, Angel Island, Green Grove, Emerald Coast, Palmtree PanIc, hell, even Splash Hill.) It’s not that people mind the checkerboard, grassy plain stages. Rather people mind being taken back to Green Hill every game.
I feel like Angel Island and Emerald Coast shouldn't be grouped in the Green Hill knockoffs. For angel island it is more of a jungle type level and the fire changes the aesthetic greatly. And for emerald coast it is a beach level for the most part.
My favorite Sonic 2 Bosses.
1. Death Egg - Death Egg Robot
Such an impressive and challenging final boss, and a huge step up from Sonic 1. No matter how many times to beat this game, you'll feel satisfied knowing you conquered Robotnik at his absolute best.
2. Wing Fortress Zone
A fittingly difficult boss fight for the final full zone. Robotnik finally has you cornered and unleashes a deady trap to end you for good.
3. Emerald Hill Zone
A simple, yet iconic first boss. This also the first time Robotnik used a ground-based machine, aside from the pistons in Final Zone, showing an early glimpse of the diversity he's bringing to the table compared to Sonic 1.
4. Oil Ocean Zone
A memorable boss that shows off Robotnik's ingenuity. He makes his escape under the dangerous Oil Ocean, forcing Sonic to deal with his deadly (and invulnerable) weapons until he returns.
5. Death Egg - Mecha (Silver) Sonic
While technically not the first Sonic doppelganger, it was the first to pose a legitimate threat. This guy guards Robotnik, and he keeps coming back every time the Egg Robot takes you down.
6. Metropolis Zone
This boss was a step up in difficulty compared to everything that came before. If it wasn't for that precious ring tether it would likely be even harder than the Death Egg Robot. Timing your hits is difficult, and Robotnik flees to safety every time you manage a hit.
7. Mystic Cave Zone
This boss is all about aesthetic. As he drills through the ground it feels like he's trying to bury you alive. The real challenge is dodging debris.
8. Aquatic Ruin Zone
Robotnik's weapon is just a hammer, but it's what he does with it that matters. He uses the environment against you, and Sonic needs to do the same to turn the tables.
9. Casino Night Zone
It's fun to spin up and down the walls, but you can be completely derailed if you're not careful. The setting is fun, giving you much of the mechanics from a great zone, but the boss is comparatively uninspired. Chances are Robotnik will spend most of the time offscreen as you zoom around the stage. With such a big arena to explore it would help if Robotnik moved around more.
10. Chemical Plant Zone
This can be aggravating if you have Tails jump in front of Sonic, causing him to tumble into a quick death if you're unlucky enough to land when the floor is flipped. Aside from the stage hazard, this boss is pretty simple.
11. Hill Top Zone
This isn't a bad boss battle, but it just ended up down here because there isn't much to it. Robotnik comes out of the lava, shoots fire at you, and repeats from the other side.
I'm glad I'm not the only one who lived in Iowa and had no idea what a hedgehog was as a child.
That was the best ad I’ve ever seen in my entire life.
So just coming from your Tails video, "It burns us, precious!" I can tell that your eldest brother experiences really came projecting out here. So it was lovely to see where you started to where you ended up. Thank you for the video!
I have watched this video over a hundred times, and I only noticed just now that the Luigi picture is based off of Jotaru from JoJo. No I'm serious, look: 19:41
Sonic 2 is actually as good as if not better than Super Mario World in my opinion =)
Sonic 2 was released a year later. They had a chance to react to SMW.
Sure it is... 🤦♂️
Than super mario bros 2 yeah right, than world? It's ok if you really like Sonic but... no words.
I HATE YOU
Yeah Stop being rude it’s his opinion!
Sonic the Hedgehog 2...... At 32 years old, this is THE game that made me a gamer. Changed my life. My first ever game that came with the Sega Genesis we got for Christmas in whatever year that was.
1992. Same story for me, though I played other games a bit before I got my first console. This was the first game that was truly mine, and that makes it very special.
Loving that commercial at the end!😂👍
Love your enthusiasm for Sonic games. Loved these growing up and still do to this day. Keep up the great work!
I like that you used The Little Fox as reference footage. I haven't seen that movie in like ten years
My favorite Sonic 2 songs. Taste in music is heavily based on personal preference, so there are no wrong answers here.
1. Chemical Plant Zone
A sweet, jazzy song. There's a reason this zone keeps coming back, and the song is a big part of it.
2. Metropolis Zone
An edgy techno beat that makes you feel like you're in a big mechanical city. The automated obstacles it the Zone move along with the beat, making it feel alive.
3. Mystic Cave Zone
A fittingly eerie song with a great bass riff to go with it. This track feels menacing and fits well with the underground theme of the zone.
4. Casino Night Zone
A chill jazz song that makes you want to slow down and gamble some rings. This song would fit in just fine playing in a casino on an endless loop.
5. Emerald Hill Zone
A vibrant song that just makes you want to run.
6. Aquatic Ruin Zone
Makes you feel like you're entering a strange aquatic land. The fast-past song works better if you're dashing through the top half of the zone.
7. Oil Ocean Zone
An exotic song that has a bit of a Middle-Eastern vibe. The sound is as unique as the level itself. There's never really been anything quite like this in a Sonic game.
8. Wing Fortress Zone
A booming, triumphant song. It gets a bit choppy in some places because of the sound effects.
9. Hill Top Zone
I'm just not a fan of country/western. If you are, that's just fine, but I'm not.
10. Death Egg Zone
This song is kind of odd, but you aren't meant to listen very long. It gets a bit too shrill if you wait a while, but why would you?
11. Sky Chase Zone
Just lulls you to sleep, which would be fine if it wasn't the semi-final level in a Sonic game. It fits with the level, but the level doesn't fit with the game.
Overall, this is a great soundtrack. Every song fits very well with the level it's in.
As a Tails fan, I enjoyed the bashing on him way too much. XD
That emerald hill tune....MMMM I loved that song as a kid as I played it on my moms flip-phone(yes not only on smart phones)
Another great video. Complimented my coffee filled Saturday morning. Thank you!
I've always wondered why the final boss has no rings to fight, then I noticed that on the classics they ALWAYS put the last checkpoint before the boss without any rings if you not backtrack. So I think the developers idea is that the ideal fight with the bosses are suposed to be without rings if you fail? Probably.
Yeah that's probably true considering the 8-bit games have no rings for all of their bosses
Still remember that joke commercial for SOnic 2 back in the day. Thought it was so funny and still do. Thanks for throwing it in there at the end.
Great stuff, I was thoroughly entertained. Have you ever played Sonic Jam on the Saturn? They actually put the spin dash into their port of sonic 1 and I feel that it greatly improved the game. Amazing what a difference one little tweak can make.
Yeah, completely agree. I'm going to be dedicating an episode to that once I get to the Saturn trilogy. The Sonic Saturn games are actually why I wanted to start this show.
Nice. Do you already own Sonic Jam then? If not, I recommend getting a Japanese region copy. Much cheaper and has virtually no language barrier except for some extras in the "sonic world" part. Even there it isn't too bad.
Yep! I was a Saturn kid growing up, so I got all three Sonic releases as they came out!
Game Apologist lucky!
not exactly. Most S1 levels weren't designed for the spindash
Old sonic games were the best. I always made my little sister play as tails. Nice to see someone giving them the love they deserve
Same. Tails' inclusion in Sonic 2 settled a LOT of sibling rivalry in our household. My sister wasn't skilled enough to play as Sonic (to be fair, she was 4), but she wanted to play. Tails requires little to no skill as the P2, so problem solved. Thanks, Sega!
It's weird, but the shift in gameplay and extra act of Metropolis zone were actually a fresh break, for me anyway.... and that music is so damned catchy =D
I agree. Metropolis Zone was a difficult level that required patience and prescision, but it wasn't as broken as a certain underwater nightmare in the original Sonic. Also, that soundtrack is great. Kind of reminds me of Dancing Days.
The more I think about it, the more sense Tails makes. He's not a fox
He's a kitsune
They are key mythological figures in Japanese folklore - A fox after so long alive is thought to grow another tail, and gain one for every 100 years alive, up to 9. Kitsune can be good or evil, and are known shapeshifters. Tails, as seen in Sonic Lost World, can move each fur strand on his tails independently. His method of flight doesn't make sense as it's actually _magic_ - He's, whether or not Tails actually realizes this, is shape shifting his tails to work like helicoptor blades
This also means Tails has a lot more potential than other characters
good analysis; in fact, it was my first thought when i first saw him as a kid playing sonic 2, it's not even helping we don't even know a thing about his origins.
A story like that has potential: tails questions himself and he goes around the world looking for answers using the tornado, eggman is plotting something in a japan stand-in, tails notices it, tries to stop him and maybe he can find clues about his past there.
Now, i'm not saying he has to be 2000 y/o and have a kyuubi form (hell nah, that should be avoided). the concept of "using mythologies but make some tweaks for it to fit in your world" exists, sonic team could introduce mythology to sonic's world by using ones from real life but making some changes to fit in and add an original touch. Hell they can even make a case like abe no seimei, half kitsune: one of tail's parents were a kitsune and during birth they gave him one of their tails, thus the high intelligence and being able to fly while still looking like a regular fox and being 8.
Always pause-spam special stages.
Also, I do wanna say, tails can only drop rings HE picked up, and he’s behind you, so ultimately if you play well, he doesn’t actually hinder you
Recently came across your videos, and I saw your S&K/Sonic 3 video first where you talked better about Tails but hinted at your feelings about him. In my house, the better player usually played as Tails over Sonic. Sonic player’s only job was to not die. Tails player’s job was to wreck everything, at least until the Sonic only stages at the end. See Dorkly’s Tails Can’t Die video for reference. I loved the character until the 3D games, but even then I still liked him.
Nice, thanks for sharing your experience. I will have to check that video out!
Metropolis has 3 acts because of Cyber City (Genocide City), a scrapped industrial level similar to Metropolis, that would be between metropolis, and sky chase, it's layout was recycled for Metropolis 3.
16:48 Well to be fair Tails and the other side characters are absolute GODS in the Archie Series
Literally. Tails was inspired by Kitsune, a kind of Japanese spirit fox thing.
I hope you do all Sonic games. Those videos are great.
Thanks! I'm going to take a little break from the series and check out some other games, but I plan on doing the entire series!
Sonic 2 was my, and my Dad’s first Sonic game. This was *THE* game that defined my childhood.
This was the first game I was ever hyped about. I remember watching the first gameplay from a VHS video that I got with a Mean Machines magazine and just watched the gameplay over and over. The idea of playing two players, on the same screen, at the same time, was just mind blowing. And I loved Tails. A character that can fly! This was mind blowing back in the day. Seriously, the marketing for this games was just incredible (in the UK, anyway).
It wouldnt be until the Dreamcast era before I got so super excited for another video game (I loved the Saturn, but that system had games I only got hyped for after I had bought, played, and loved).
Sonic 2 really is a hard game to quantify just how excited it was unless you were there at the time of its build up and release.
I did love Tails back then. I found him adorable, especially when he yawned, looked up, or ducked like he was getting ready to pounce something. Adventure turning him into a nerd who...speaks...ruined his character entirely for me. But I loved Mute Tails in these classic games. My only issue was I kept trying for months, trying to figure out how to make Tails fly. Wasn't til Sonic 3 came out when I realized he wasn't CAPABLE of flying. ...So why did the game keep teasing that he COULD fly, and not actually have the ability to do so? This is my most major gripe about Sonic 2.
I always wanted to play the remake, unfortunately mobile games are unplayable... Why won't they just release it on console or Steam? Bought it for my Cellphone, and just can't play it. It's impossible.
The touch controls on Sonic 1 and 2 mobile are a lot better because you don't have to hit the button exactly and can adjust the size if the D-pad. It translates super well but a controller is better. I mean you could connect a Joy-Con or something to it using Bluetooth.
adventure tails is best tails wdym
Beating Wing Fortress without Super Sonic is literally impossible for me. That boss is ridiculous. So I never knew there was a "Try Again" screen.
I've been wondering where you've been. Great video. Love the 2 player split screen aspect of this game its so great which you didn't go into much. I was as really excited to see the 2 player split screen on Sonic 3 and then horrified when I saw it.
Looking forward to your next video.
Thanks! My personal life has been kind of a nightmare, so videos haven't been a top priority. But I'm going to try to get them out a little more frequently.
And yeah, never played much of the split screen myself, so I didn't have much to say. Sorry.
I find the split screen in Sonic 2 works because it is a compressed version of the main art, with all the physics tuned to make it feel right. It falls apart in Sonic 3 not because they simply scaled down the sprites but because they didn't do as good a job making it feel right.
Also, nice icon. Did you really meet the Sonic mascot?
WHAT EVER YOU DO NEVER LET TO YOUR YOUNGER BROTHER BE SONIC IT TOOK US HOURS TO GET HALFWAY THROUGH THE GAME
Haha... Tails was definitely older brother mode. I'm 36 and to this day, my brother is the designated Tails player whenever we fire up these 2D Sonic games.
Having Tails able to fly and carry Sonic in 3 was a godsend at the time. HAHA
just watched your sonic 3 and & knuckles vids.. glad to see your vids getting recommended. your criticisms feel so genuine and clearly reflect a good personality. you provide commentary with a bit of your own past experiences sprinkled in, rather than plainly reviewing the game. please keep it up
My favorite levels in Sonic 2. It was tough to come up with this list since there are so many good zones to pick from. Please don't judge me, but feel free to leave your own opinion.
1. Casino Night Zone
Never has underage gambling been so much fun. This is a flashy level that sucks up plenty of play time.
2. Chemical Plant Zone
You never forget the first time you go down that big hill. Sonic was so fast he practically blasted right off the screen, and Sega made sure everybody knew that.
3. Mystic Cave Zone
Some nice obstacles and a very cool design help this zone stand out.
4. Metropolis Zone
I don't hate this zone. It's challenging, and has some real tough enemies, but it makes you feel pretty good after you beat it.
5. Emerald Hill Zone
Right from the start we get a great opening zone. There are plenty of loops to zip through and, unlike Green Hill Zone, there isn't much to slow you down.
6. Oil Ocean Zone
There are some great mechanics here that utilize the viscosity of oil. This zone has the most interesting ways to get around, with oil slides, elevators, flame-propelled platforms and cannons.
7. Hill Top Zone
Plenty of uphill climbs here, as the name suggests. There are some interesting sections when you get underground.
8. Aquatic Ruin Zone
I always forget this level exists. It's a fun little zone, but it doesn't do enough to stand out, particularly compared to the levels before and after it. By the time I'm halfway through Casino Night Zone I've already forgotten it.
9. Wing Fortress Zone
A big, empty zone with some frustrating sections hovering over big, empty deathpits. I always thought this was pretty bland for a final level, with beige as the primary color.
10. Sky Chase Zone
It's not bad, but it's mostly just there. This Is basically a Sonic railshooter that forces you to move at the zone's pace. The turtle badniks are the best part.
There isn't really a bad zone in Sonic 2 in my opinion. The decisive top two for me are all-time greats that can really go in any order. After that it was really hard to decide on the order for #3-8.
My first experience with Sonic was from my Uncle's Genesis. And Sonic 2 was the pack in game with the Genesis Model 2.
But despite the hours I poured into it, I didn't actually beat it until years later with Sonic Mega Collection. And I never did get all the Emeralds.
Let's be honest all of us got a gambling addiction when playing casino night zone
Casino Night was partly to blame for why it took me so long to beat this game. As a 6-year old I was only allowed so much time to play video games, and it always took me three or four hours to get through Casino Night Zone. JUST ONE... MORE... EXTRA... LIFE!!!
I have never previously seen that "free Sonic 2 with the purchase of the former" commercial before, yet when I was six I took advantage of the free game, and boy did I have lots of fun with it.
"Sonic has never been as polished as Mario, but he's never been as boring either." Shots have indeed been fired XD
@Muse Suse I mean, y'know, he *is* right It's why I've never got into Mario. Every couple of years I'll throw Mario World on and REALLY try to get into it. I'll get a power up and go "Wow, that's cool" (stuff like the floating/flying cape), but within five minutes I'm bored. There are a few reasons, but yeah, even when I got past my Sega fanboyism and started really enjoying the SNES library, Mario never grabbed me
Ok but I love the commercial for sonic 2 that treats it like a “as seen on TV” commercial.
Extra: Reminder, this was made in the 90s, y’know, when “as seen on TV” ads were not a comedic set piece. Products like flex tape and slap chop became memes these past two decades, so having a sonic game poke fun at those ads makes it so much better. Plus, the actual gameplay is such a minor feature in the commercial, it’s like “oh hey, this is a actual game by the way, ok back to cleaning solutions”. I love it so much
Really look forward to quality content like this. Keep up the great work!
Thanks!
That's the middle pier on the Wildwood Boardwalk for the amusement park picture... right?
Metropolis Zone is actually one of my all time favorite Sonic the Hedgehog levels. Wing Fortress being close to it in terms of how much I love it.
You can always tell only children from younger brothers by their attitude towards Tails. If you always played the game alone and relied on the AI in Sonic 2, you hate him. If you were handed the player 2 controller and helped achieve massive victories against the bosses by abusing your invincibility you recognize him as a badass and a very useful sidekick.
In short, Tails is the best Sonic character and primary redeeming factor of the series.
Partially agree, Metropolis is a favorite of mine but Winged Fortress always seemed boring. Speaking of Metropolis, I don't recall having many issues with the screws honestly.
This game is the reason why I became a gamer. This was the first video game I ever played and I’m happy that’s part of my life even meeting great people due to me picking up a controller for the first time. So this game is special to me.
I'll be honest, I started playing Sonic on a collection disk on my PS1 when I was like 6, and I didn't know Miles Prower was a pun til like, last month
I remember that commercial at the end!
6:54 super sonic: Am I a joke to you
Hey, thank you for the commercial at the end. I appreciate that.
I love the good ending of this game because most people don’t pay attention to knuckles’ eyes in the bush behind robotnik
I'm pretty sure that's one of the most noticeable parts of the image, partly because there's little else to look at.
mobile only in genesis you just get a fat sonic 2 logo
7:45 no it's not, it's exactly the same size. All the Sonic games on the Genesis/Mega Drive are at the same resolution with the Sonic sprite being the same size.
There is no concept of a "camera" as this is 2D, fixed-resolution graphics, further more the hardware back then didn't have the capability of "zooming" or enlarging the entire screen (even the SNES could only zoom and rotate 1 background layer, not the entire screen with all the sprites).
One thing that did change between Sonic 1 and Sonic 2 is the size of the level chunks, which went from 256x256 pixels in Sonic 1 to 128x128 in Sonic 2, which meant more detail in stages could be crammed into a smaller view-area, which may give the impression that Sonic looks larger and that he moves through the stage faster, but this definitely is not the reality, just the perception.
Now that I didn't know. Thanks for the heads up.
You're a fucking loser, OP.
@@corpsemachine6949 And you're a fucking little bitch. What's your problem?
HOLD UP! Having Tails on meant you had to collect more rings to get an emerald?! Why have I never heard this until now?!
It's because if you have a second player with you (who is conpetant), getting the rings is A LOT easier. Which makes getting the emerald easier.
So to counter that, they add 10/20 rings you have to get per round. Sometimes more depending on the level.
(When I was playing alone. I'd pause the game and ask mom to help me get an emerald. It was awesome XD)
no playing ALONE as a character requires more rings
wait nvm
I'm surprised you didn't talking about the Pit Trap in Mystic Cave that you're forced to sit in if you fall in as Super Sonic.
To be honest I feel like this video misses a couple of marks. Not sure why I skipped that when it's such an obvious frustration.
11:40 Hello Knuckles. That's a neat reference you got there SEGA
I remember being a little boy and seeing that commercial at the end. I loved playing Sonic 2, but I was always worried I wasn't doing it right because I didn't have a tackle box.
Also another fun fact that: in sonic 2 simon wai prototype - beta 4 prototype? When the level select still looks from sonic 1 emerald hill zone was called green hill zone
Toycat is yes
Alright, I gotta ask, what is going on with Super Sonic's hands in the comic cover @0:47
WAIT
I CAN TURN OFF TAILS?!
HE MADE ME SUFFER IN EXTRA STAGES
tails has an ability to fly or how i like to call it "ass copter*
Wing Fortress is still my favourite music in any Sonic game
18:49 when a little kid gets food they dont like
0:38
That time when sonic was animated like cuphead before cuphead was animated like cuphead.
Was that supposed to not make any fucking sense?
That is why Sonic Hysteria will make Metropolis zone vary fun. MWAAA HAHAHAH
16:07 not the second zone second act of the first zone
Absolutely. There's a reason it's called "Emerald Hill".
I was JUST about to say.
I remember seeing somewhere when I was little that in the bad ending of Sonic 2 Tails died. I don't remember where I saw it, but wherever I did, I remember they showed also a scene of Sonic running through Emerald Hill at night, I think with the animals following him, and then fireworks in the shape of Tails appear in the background.
That was the bad ending in the Master System/Game Gear version of Sonic 2, which is actually an entirely different game to this one.
@@ruthmcnally310 Oooh, thank you!
Also the slicers from retropolise zone was somecallmejohnny's must hated enemy
7:02 - you just need to stop in between the projectiles, no need to jump away
That’s how I avoid them to lol
7:35 Don't jump off of the nuts, just time the ascent to dodge the start thingies spike shots.
From what I remember the reason for the third act in Metropolis Zone is because there was a level they designed then repurposed.
Lol your avatar's facial expressions are gold!
Actually Sonic is a nickname his real name is Oligive Maurice The Hedgehog
that name sounds like olive masauce
Non canon
Probably the best game apologist video ever!
"As early as the second zone"
Hah... nah man
As early as the second ACT
Green Hill has exactly 7 Star Posts
Green Hill has 8 Star Posts (3 on act one and 5 on act two). You can even afford to fail one.
@@anonymousscience4095 Even better
That ending screen is exclusive to the sonic 2 whitehead remake.
16:09 You can actually get Super Sonic at the end of Emerald Hill Zone, so can already use him for the Drill Tank boss fight
About metropolis zone: I know this an old-ass video, but IIRC based on sonicretro and such that it's only 3 acts because they rolled the scrapped Genocide City zone into it. Based on design documents they had, it was going to be something like scrap brain, but ended up being similar enough to the existing metropolis that they simply added it in as a 3rd act with the same assets. From a pure gameplay standpoint, that 3rd act absolutely threw me for a loop though on my first playthrough!
sonic 2 was my first console game ever and I fell in love with Casino night zone even I found it too hard when I was a kid.