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In my opinion In a street fight miguel would beat daniel 85 as he is a better street fighter plus daniel had plot armour for the whole 3 fights and still got dominated. Tournament daniel would win street fight miguel s2
Not only Did Daniel become so much more skilled then his 84 ver who 2-0 johnny with a Busted leg WHOOOOOOO has taught Miguel everything he knows Miguel doesn’t have any body advantage over Daniel as there both scrawny we do know that Daniel has scraped and even take punches from Chozen and get back up with ease keep in mind Chozen broke a Piece off a Statue with just a Kick Daniel has even made Chozen bleed and get knocked down numerous times (and this isn’t Plot armor this is just how strong Daniel is Physically before his Karate training even began as he didn’t get any stronger while In KK1-2 he just got more skilled) You can say “Miguel has lasted longer then Daniel in a fight” but there’s a big difference in physical strength From the fighters that’s Daniel takes hit from and gets back up with ease compared to The fighters Miguel takes who haven’t been shown such a feat like chozen Adding on to this Daniel blitzes Miguel as he caught a Fly with chop sticks which is already high speeds as it is He’s a lot more skilled too Miguel’s better off in a Tournament fight as they Can stop the fight when ever Daniel might accidentally cripple Miguel with a Strike and this isn’t me wanking off Daniel this is just how Op he is as a Fighter
@@bootybandit9245 Daniel is actually the weakest fighter there if you look into it, he won Johnny in a point system but if it was in a street fight Johnny would’ve just gotten back up and whoop Daniel, and you can’t use kk2 chozen vs Daniel because Daniel was fighting a Broken minded chozen and we all saw how badly mike whooped Daniel.
@@bootybandit9245 yes Daniel did take punches from chozen but after those punches he was getting slower and slower you can tell his durability is good but his stamina is shit while Miguel is able to take Evan extreme amount of punishment and still keep up with his opponents.
Yh I still think johnny down to experience it be different if 84nwas johnny first tournament, then maybe miguel would got win. Miguel couldn't barely handle robby in street fight and just about got win against kyler. While under recovery. I really think it can go either way. Nit say miguel isnt strong it's just he relies more on his offence than his defence
@@danwarner7816 Johnny relies ONLY on offense lol. Season 2 Miguel would beat Johnny and Miguel barely beat Kyler bcos he JUST RELEARNED HOW TO WALK. also he beat Robby, who is the second best fighter in the show behind Miguel
@@saileshnaidu8102 yeah but then again judging from first karate kid film. Johnny won more than 1 tournament. The reason Daniel won, he was thrown off guard by daniel crane kic, which is also illegal move Edited: miguel beat kyler cus kyler too arrogant, johnny only fights for his love ali but without her on his mind. He likely defeated daniel at all valley If you closely at robby using all his physical abilities to his advantage miguel was struggling becuz he really didnt want fight robby. But robby did hold his own in street fight in s2 finale
No they're not. It's so stupid to say "X" can beat "Z" because "X" beat "Y" and "Y" beat "Z". Just because Paper wins against rock doesn't mean it can win against scissor.
1st fight- Imo chozen would win because he is overall more skilled then them. He knows when to attack and knows when to defend and calculates his every move. If he can roll Daniel he can roll Johhny and both of them would narrowly lose to him. He's been training for decades in his 84 form he took on multiple opponents and just got way better over the decades. The reason he lost to Daniel cuz of the drum technique and the fact Chozen was attacking in blind rage. Also the pressure point technique is probably not the only miyagido technique he knows that Daniel doesn't. 2nd fight- Yea Mike rolls Dutch 3rd fight- In a street fight robby would get MAULED by Kreese but in a point to point basis robby would ez clap him. 4th fight- Same applies here ; Point to point basis- Miguel since he'd probably catch Johnny off guard while he is only focusing on offense and street Johnny since he is more durable than the likes of Miguel. 5th fight- I'm kinda torn tbh but I say Daniel wins in the tourney system Miguel in the street system. Since Miguel can adapt very quick, he'd probably win since Daniel would rn out of techniques. And Miguel can tank tons of punches from kyler even when just at about 50% of his strength so Miguel should win imo. 6th-Hawk would lose tourney ez claps for Daniel and street Hawk takes the win by simply being more durable.
Johnny gained the upperhand against Kresse in season 3 is because kresse was holded back in plus Kresse was finae when he was fighting with Daniel. Even though Johnny beats him he didn't show any syptom of exastion.
Yeah nam kreese got win due to he kept fighting since youth. He said himself I'm fighter all my life, and due him literally getting best of his sensei without holding bk by final episode. Kreese would got the win no matter how big shawn is
Who would win between these two?⬇️ Season 3 fully brainwashed by kreese Tory Vs ‘85 Mike Barnes.If u think about it these characters both made a Larusoo character scared,mike scared the living shit outa Daniel in the tournament,Tory did more,she made Sam Dramatized and made her panic attacks and nightmares,in my opinion if present day mike barns came to the show,He would Body Tory within seconds.but ‘put season 3 Brainwashed Tory against 85 mike Barnes would be an interesting fight.
I think maybe season 3 hawk would have a chance against karate kid 1 Daniel because hawk gets more durable and gets more defense and gets way more striking power as he was half way able to lift brucks off the ground with a punch and he is going to really show no mercy as we saw him smash a glass cup on a kids head so he might stand a chance
These opinions don't make sense at all. Daniel in 84 was not physically stronger than Robbie is now. Hell Daniel may not be stronger than him right now! Then you said Robbie has more skill. Daniel was trained by Miyagi, a much better sensei than Daniel is. So, it's the opposite. Daniel has more skill, because he was trained by Miyagi, but Robbie is definitely physically stronger than Daniel, because Daniel is skinny and physically weak.
@@jamainegardner4193 as Miyagi said "trust quality of training, not quantity". Besides, Robbie hasn't trained with Daniel that much. He's been on the run or locked up. Currently he's with Kreese. He's a better talent than Daniel in 84', however my points are still correct.
Yo, mike Barnes could killl Tory if he wanted. He way she fought against Sam, anyone would destroy her. KK3 terry Silver would take Hawk like nothing bcos he's possiblity stronger than Kreese. If ur talking about that army Silver, then probably not
I personally disagree that Johnny out scales Daniel tbh. I think they are more equals but Daniel should out scale him via pressure points. Also kreese only hit Daniel once meanwhile Johnny got tagged more times. But unless you can determine the damage was severe kresse would be at the same strength. So s3 Daniel>=s3 Johnny>s3 kreese.
I mean Johnny was always better then Daniel, remember Daniel won in a point tournament so we never got to see them fight in a no rule setting. Daniel does have the pressure points to his side but remember that Johnny is a very adaptable fighter and if they were to fight Daniel will win the first time around because Johnny doesn’t know about the pressure points but in the second fight Johnny will be defensive to avoid the technique and find an opening to defeat Daniel. The reason I’m saying this is because Johnny gets stronger in every fight he gets he went from being pure offense to knowing when to defend and when to attack.
@@memoo2535 i think it's safe to say that if daniel beat chozen in a street fight, he'd also beat johnny. remember tho this is adult daniel and adult johnny, so it's different than their kid selves.
@@memoo2535 in every fight Daniel and Johnny have Daniel gets more hits in and with this in his arsenal it will be kinda gg for Johnny. If Daniel can catch chozen off guard who superior to Johnny then Daniel beats Johnny.
@@Dwood777 Daniel fought a chozen who was at his lowest since his uncle disowned him, and Daniel was gonna get beat by a mentally weakened chozen before all the villagers including Sato the person who he admired was basically encouraging Daniel to beat him and chozen only had one thing in his mind and that was too kill Daniel and if you see he rushed Daniel with no defense and when caught in the drum technique only threw the same punch.
Daniel after Learning the Secret Miyagi Techniques and Johnny would probably beat Chozen but it’s a No brainer if it’s before Daniel Learnt those techniques Daniels pretty much what’s stoping me from saying Chozen squashes both in a Fight 2 on 1
For miguel S2 vs johnny 84 in a street fight miguel losing but I'm a tournament miguel could potentially win due to the fact that it ain't about strength speed hence daniel beating mike Barnes and Johnny. Plus daniel said to win the tournament u need the right moves not athletic ability but in a street fight athletic ability is very big factor so street fight johnny 7/10 mid difficulty tournament miguel 7/10 mid to hard diffuctly
@@saileshnaidu8102 well s2 was his prime as that was the strongest point we saw him at this point of time that's what prime means but in s4 he'll probs surpass his s2 self
Daniel is a good fighter but his achievements really aren’t that great he won two times in a point system and won an actual fight but his opponent wasn’t in the right mind.
No way in hell is Danial beating Miguel. If Miguel has something to lose in the All Valley, basically no one can stop him. He's a much smarter and stronger fighter than Danial, knowing when to defend and when to attack. We don't even know how strong he is in his prime cause, well, he hasn't reached his prime yet. There is still 3 more seasons for him to grow. I would say S1 Miguel could lose against Johnny 84, but season 2 Miguel would anticipate bfor he strikes.
Is it’s season three hawk and on the street he will barely beat Daniel because he has better pain tolerance, he’s faster, he now knows when to switch to defense and offense, and is faster than Daniel.
@@brandoasan5639 remember Daniel fights better when he’s up against offensive fighters because he exploits their wide gaps but he will be in trouble when he fights against somebody who knows defense and offense. If they were to fight in the street hawk will first try to attack him with pure offensive techniques but then ofc Daniel already fighting people just like him will counter all of hawks attacks, hawk will then realize that Daniel is no demetri and will play it a little safe he will throw a couple of hits but will let Daniel come to him rather than him coming to Daniel and just like how he did with the miyagi do student in the house fight he will exploit miyagi do wide gap punches duck grab Daniels arm and put him in a arm hold just like how he did to demetri and will break his arm.
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Video format is a bit different in this one and it may be easier to turn on CC to understand what I'm saying. We did it somewhat-off-the-cuff/podcast style so we could freely express our opinions, and so my speech impediment may be a bit more apparent in this one. Apologies in advance.
Have you ever done a Robby vs Johnny (1984) video?
Cause that would be an interesting video as well I think
You’re all good bro, I didn’t even notice or even hear the “speech impediment” even when rewatching.
Try do a long one on miguel s2 vs hawk s3 as I believe miguel would win but I would like to here ur full analysis
@@beanhead5398 season 3 hawk is in the same level as season two Miguel.
Ight boys, Stryfe and Tylearn Vs Spongebob and Patrick who you got🙌😈
Spongebob alone would fold you two
@@Menace_1129 Stryfe just karate chops Spongebob while me and Patrick trading blows and destroying the earth in the background
Larry the lobster vs Sergeant Roderick who’s gonna win?
Well spongebob has karate training and a think he got a black belt one episode so he could beat both of them at one time (just a joke)
@@cobraboy239 nah I’m slapping him
By far the best video 👑👑
Silver returning to cobra Kai let’s go 🔥🔥
Still laughing when Robby was knocked out by a locker
N U E T R E L I S E D
In my opinion In a street fight miguel would beat daniel 85 as he is a better street fighter plus daniel had plot armour for the whole 3 fights and still got dominated. Tournament daniel would win street fight miguel s2
Not only Did Daniel become so much more skilled then his 84 ver who 2-0 johnny with a Busted leg WHOOOOOOO has taught Miguel everything he knows Miguel doesn’t have any body advantage over Daniel as there both scrawny we do know that Daniel has scraped and even take punches from Chozen and get back up with ease keep in mind Chozen broke a Piece off a Statue with just a Kick Daniel has even made Chozen bleed and get knocked down numerous times (and this isn’t Plot armor this is just how strong Daniel is Physically before his Karate training even began as he didn’t get any stronger while In KK1-2 he just got more skilled) You can say “Miguel has lasted longer then Daniel in a fight” but there’s a big difference in physical strength From the fighters that’s Daniel takes hit from and gets back up with ease compared to The fighters Miguel takes who haven’t been shown such a feat like chozen
Adding on to this Daniel blitzes Miguel as he caught a Fly with chop sticks which is already high speeds as it is
He’s a lot more skilled too
Miguel’s better off in a Tournament fight as they Can stop the fight when ever Daniel might accidentally cripple Miguel with a Strike and this isn’t me wanking off Daniel this is just how Op he is as a Fighter
@@bootybandit9245 Daniel is actually the weakest fighter there if you look into it, he won Johnny in a point system but if it was in a street fight Johnny would’ve just gotten back up and whoop Daniel, and you can’t use kk2 chozen vs Daniel because Daniel was fighting a Broken minded chozen and we all saw how badly mike whooped Daniel.
@@bootybandit9245 yes Daniel did take punches from chozen but after those punches he was getting slower and slower you can tell his durability is good but his stamina is shit while Miguel is able to take Evan extreme amount of punishment and still keep up with his opponents.
@@memoo2535 exactly plus he abused the point system in the tournament
@@bootybandit9245 but we never saw daniel break a statue plus a flying kick is not equivalent to a normal punch in terms of power.
Also you guys forgot the crane kick. Miguel s2 master every fighting style
Y’all telling me Johnny can be him with
a crane kick?
He also can switch between Offense and defense whenever he wants, so he basically controls the fight in many ways
Yh I still think johnny down to experience it be different if 84nwas johnny first tournament, then maybe miguel would got win. Miguel couldn't barely handle robby in street fight and just about got win against kyler. While under recovery. I really think it can go either way. Nit say miguel isnt strong it's just he relies more on his offence than his defence
@@danwarner7816 Johnny relies ONLY on offense lol. Season 2 Miguel would beat Johnny and Miguel barely beat Kyler bcos he JUST RELEARNED HOW TO WALK. also he beat Robby, who is the second best fighter in the show behind Miguel
@@saileshnaidu8102 yeah but then again judging from first karate kid film. Johnny won more than 1 tournament. The reason Daniel won, he was thrown off guard by daniel crane kic, which is also illegal move
Edited: miguel beat kyler cus kyler too arrogant, johnny only fights for his love ali but without her on his mind. He likely defeated daniel at all valley
If you closely at robby using all his physical abilities to his advantage miguel was struggling becuz he really didnt want fight robby. But robby did hold his own in street fight in s2 finale
@@saileshnaidu8102 johnny very good at offence so much that it is impossible for him to be on his defending side
These fight analyst are amazing 🤩
No they're not. It's so stupid to say "X" can beat "Z" because "X" beat "Y" and "Y" beat "Z". Just because Paper wins against rock doesn't mean it can win against scissor.
It's cool to see you and Tylearn collab again
nice vid btw can you please do a fighting style analysis (Cobra Kai Miyagi do sato do) or a chozen vs Hawk short
I know this is not in the same universe but, Adonis Creed or Rocky Balboa vs Chozen Toguchi
Johnny 84>Miguel S1
Johnny 84
mike barnes destroys any version of miguel💀
@@goodguyscomelast2029 ikr 💀
This is AWESOME
Finally long video.
would love to see a video like this with season 4 matchups
1st fight- Imo chozen would win because he is overall more skilled then them. He knows when to attack and knows when to defend and calculates his every move. If he can roll Daniel he can roll Johhny and both of them would narrowly lose to him. He's been training for decades in his 84 form he took on multiple opponents and just got way better over the decades. The reason he lost to Daniel cuz of the drum technique and the fact Chozen was attacking in blind rage. Also the pressure point technique is probably not the only miyagido technique he knows that Daniel doesn't.
2nd fight- Yea Mike rolls Dutch
3rd fight- In a street fight robby would get MAULED by Kreese but in a point to point basis robby would ez clap him.
4th fight- Same applies here ; Point to point basis- Miguel since he'd probably catch Johnny off guard while he is only focusing on offense and street Johnny since he is more durable than the likes of Miguel.
5th fight- I'm kinda torn tbh but I say Daniel wins in the tourney system Miguel in the street system. Since Miguel can adapt very quick, he'd probably win since Daniel would rn out of techniques. And Miguel can tank tons of punches from kyler even when just at about 50% of his strength so Miguel should win imo.
6th-Hawk would lose tourney ez claps for Daniel and street Hawk takes the win by simply being more durable.
Without Johnny Lawrence there would be no Draco Malfoy just think about it
Johnny gained the upperhand against Kresse in season 3 is because kresse was holded back in plus Kresse was finae when he was fighting with Daniel. Even though Johnny beats him he didn't show any syptom of exastion.
I would love to see Kreese in nam vs Shawn.
Probably better to put dishwasher Kreese vs Shawn. VietnamKreese is way too much.
Yeah nam kreese got win due to he kept fighting since youth. He said himself I'm fighter all my life, and due him literally getting best of his sensei without holding bk by final episode. Kreese would got the win no matter how big shawn is
Shawn would get murdered
Longer more in depth fight videos 👌👌
Amazing video
Who would win between these two?⬇️
Season 3 fully brainwashed by kreese Tory Vs ‘85 Mike Barnes.If u think about it these characters both made a Larusoo character scared,mike scared the living shit outa Daniel in the tournament,Tory did more,she made Sam Dramatized and made her panic attacks and nightmares,in my opinion if present day mike barns came to the show,He would Body Tory within seconds.but ‘put season 3 Brainwashed Tory against 85 mike Barnes would be an interesting fight.
I would say mike Barnes
Joe Barnes stomps
I think maybe season 3 hawk would have a chance against karate kid 1 Daniel because hawk gets more durable and gets more defense and gets way more striking power as he was half way able to lift brucks off the ground with a punch and he is going to really show no mercy as we saw him smash a glass cup on a kids head so he might stand a chance
Daniel larusso (84) vs Miguel Díaz (S1) who would win?
Danny
Why?
I love your videos
Kreese in Vietnam vs Chozen (KK2)
Chozen was training like a Soldier along with receiving Some Good karate and Can hold off 5 fighters on his own I’d say Chozen with no difficulty
These opinions don't make sense at all. Daniel in 84 was not physically stronger than Robbie is now. Hell Daniel may not be stronger than him right now! Then you said Robbie has more skill. Daniel was trained by Miyagi, a much better sensei than Daniel is. So, it's the opposite. Daniel has more skill, because he was trained by Miyagi, but Robbie is definitely physically stronger than Daniel, because Daniel is skinny and physically weak.
Daniel in 84 was trained by Miyagi for a month while Robby was an outright better prodigy than Daniel and trained with Daniel for 8 months.
@@jamainegardner4193 as Miyagi said "trust quality of training, not quantity". Besides, Robbie hasn't trained with Daniel that much. He's been on the run or locked up. Currently he's with Kreese. He's a better talent than Daniel in 84', however my points are still correct.
Shawn VS Dutch (1984)
shawn destroys
Do hawk (S1) vs Demetri (S3
I know this is old, but do hawk s3 vs mike barnes '89
0:48 chosen has always been superior to daniel only reason he lost cuz he got distracted by drum technique in KK2 😂
Every opponent is superior to daniel, they were just distracted with that plot armor tho.
@@can-ws8hn you mean because the film at time was called the karate kid (daniel's story)
@@danwarner7816 yeah but realistically, Daniel wouldn't beat his three oponents.
@@can-ws8hn yeah becuz movie called karate kid not karate bad boy, not the chosen one and defo not cobra Kai yet 😂
@@danwarner7816 Cause of the plot armor.
Dutch vs hawk
Young terry silver vs hawk season 3 or mike Barnes vs Tory season 3
Yo, mike Barnes could killl Tory if he wanted. He way she fought against Sam, anyone would destroy her. KK3 terry Silver would take Hawk like nothing bcos he's possiblity stronger than Kreese. If ur talking about that army Silver, then probably not
I personally disagree that Johnny out scales Daniel tbh. I think they are more equals but Daniel should out scale him via pressure points. Also kreese only hit Daniel once meanwhile Johnny got tagged more times. But unless you can determine the damage was severe kresse would be at the same strength. So s3 Daniel>=s3 Johnny>s3 kreese.
yh
I mean Johnny was always better then Daniel, remember Daniel won in a point tournament so we never got to see them fight in a no rule setting. Daniel does have the pressure points to his side but remember that Johnny is a very adaptable fighter and if they were to fight Daniel will win the first time around because Johnny doesn’t know about the pressure points but in the second fight Johnny will be defensive to avoid the technique and find an opening to defeat Daniel. The reason I’m saying this is because Johnny gets stronger in every fight he gets he went from being pure offense to knowing when to defend and when to attack.
@@memoo2535
i think it's safe to say that if daniel beat chozen in a street fight, he'd also beat johnny. remember tho this is adult daniel and adult johnny, so it's different than their kid selves.
@@memoo2535 in every fight Daniel and Johnny have Daniel gets more hits in and with this in his arsenal it will be kinda gg for Johnny. If Daniel can catch chozen off guard who superior to Johnny then Daniel beats Johnny.
@@Dwood777 Daniel fought a chozen who was at his lowest since his uncle disowned him, and Daniel was gonna get beat by a mentally weakened chozen before all the villagers including Sato the person who he admired was basically encouraging Daniel to beat him and chozen only had one thing in his mind and that was too kill Daniel and if you see he rushed Daniel with no defense and when caught in the drum technique only threw the same punch.
Will tylearn ever learn
Please do this again
Kyler vs Shawn
Silver vs chosen
Do a part 2
I think chozen could beat Daniel and Johnny
Daniel after Learning the Secret Miyagi Techniques and Johnny would probably beat Chozen but it’s a No brainer if it’s before Daniel Learnt those techniques Daniels pretty much what’s stoping me from saying Chozen squashes both in a Fight 2 on 1
@@bootybandit9245 “Johnny would beat Chozen”? Not likely.
85 Daniel vs season 3 Jonny
Season 3 Johnny no questions ask lmao
S3 Johnny kills em
Is like saying mr miyagi vs Daniel before he learned karate
In my opinion besides Mike Barnes and maybe chozen. All of the karate kids are way to overrated including Daniel. The cobra kai kids would crush em
Dimitri VA dutch
For miguel S2 vs johnny 84 in a street fight miguel losing but I'm a tournament miguel could potentially win due to the fact that it ain't about strength speed hence daniel beating mike Barnes and Johnny. Plus daniel said to win the tournament u need the right moves not athletic ability but in a street fight athletic ability is very big factor so street fight johnny 7/10 mid difficulty tournament miguel 7/10 mid to hard diffuctly
In a tournament Miguel
Will win since he use crane kick.
Even in a street fight, if he knows what to expect from Johnny he would beat him. Miguel can switch between Offense and defense at the right time
@@saileshnaidu8102 True but I believe johnny has more experience so that will help hm in a street fight but in a tournament miguel could win
@@beanhead5398 true. But remember, Miguel isn't in his prime yet.
@@saileshnaidu8102 well s2 was his prime as that was the strongest point we saw him at this point of time that's what prime means but in s4 he'll probs surpass his s2 self
Chozen would beat Johnny and Daniel s3
Robby would win against kreese 69
Daniel is not beating Miguel 😂
yes he is, low diff to
Miguel would beat daniel and he could also beat johnny 1984
@@Dangangela6565 dude it's an opinion d bag
do more long vids bruh
Daniel is a good fighter but his achievements really aren’t that great he won two times in a point system and won an actual fight but his opponent wasn’t in the right mind.
“Not in the right mind” stop making excuses.
@@jamiemcbean6163 it’s not if you see the kk2 movie you can see chozen mental decline.
No way in hell is Danial beating Miguel. If Miguel has something to lose in the All Valley, basically no one can stop him. He's a much smarter and stronger fighter than Danial, knowing when to defend and when to attack. We don't even know how strong he is in his prime cause, well, he hasn't reached his prime yet. There is still 3 more seasons for him to grow. I would say S1 Miguel could lose against Johnny 84, but season 2 Miguel would anticipate bfor he strikes.
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Daniel would destroy hawk
Disagree
@@memoo2535 how
@@brandoasan5639 depends street or tournament?
Is it’s season three hawk and on the street he will barely beat Daniel because he has better pain tolerance, he’s faster, he now knows when to switch to defense and offense, and is faster than Daniel.
@@brandoasan5639 remember Daniel fights better when he’s up against offensive fighters because he exploits their wide gaps but he will be in trouble when he fights against somebody who knows defense and offense. If they were to fight in the street hawk will first try to attack him with pure offensive techniques but then ofc Daniel already fighting people just like him will counter all of hawks attacks, hawk will then realize that Daniel is no demetri and will play it a little safe he will throw a couple of hits but will let Daniel come to him rather than him coming to Daniel and just like how he did with the miyagi do student in the house fight he will exploit miyagi do wide gap punches duck grab Daniels arm and put him in a arm hold just like how he did to demetri and will break his arm.