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@Coats and Gaiters thanks for taking the time to make this, I've got an RSX that I need to take apart and hope is only a head gasket job but this gives me a way to evaluate and maybe even take a crack at repairing in the worst case! All your hard work editing and sharing is greatly appreciated!
You need to sand side to side also when sanding. Back and forth wears the ends off a little more. Water Sand Paper and water can help with the clogging. 3M makes Adhesive Sand Paper by the Roll in multiple widths you can apply to a Stainless Steel Table with a flat top. I use back and forth/side to side and circular motions without leaning on the head. = I try to just use the weight of the Head when sanding. I don't use the Paint. You can see things well enough without it.
Thank you for your comment. Thankfully things worked out in the end and the engine ran ok. I think most engineers would cringe at me using sandpaper lol
@@CoatsandGaiters I sanded both Heads on a 02 Grand Am GT 3.4. Both Heads were warped/leaking. Runs good. It's a work out. Bought it at a Wrecker Auction. No Key No Start. 350$ Ran across your Vid looking for various valve lapping techniques. I'm replacing Valves in two y30a5 Honda 3.0 Heads. I'll sand a little on them, too. If only to clean the surface. Keep the Vids coming.
Hi, Your metric thicknesses are getting thicker but your imperial ones are getting thinner!!!!!! Surely not 1/n thousands but n thousands 1, 2, 3, 4,etc thou. Anyway I would get an engine machine shop to skim the cylinder head if need be. It think it cost me £60 or £80 for a 4 cylinder head about 3 years ago. May have been less I cannot honestly remember unless I can find the receipt. To me that's money well spent to avoid all the grief of trying to skim it flat yourself. But good suff on checking it's flatness.
Hi and thank you for your comment. I partly wanted to see if It could be repaired by this method as I had seen it done in several videos online. I was also a bit concerned that if a machine shop made a mistake I would be without a head. I heard a whisper that sometimes if a garage or machine shop makes a mistake they have been known to find a reason for the head being damaged in some other way and saying it was scrap. I wouldn't be able to prove otherwise so would be without a cylinder head. I trusted a Volvo main dealer once to my extreme cost of £1,000. The lift pump failed in the fuel tank but they replaced that last after replacing the main fuel pump under the car and the fuel distributor. So a bill that should have been easily under £200 was made to be £1,000.
@@CoatsandGaiters Yep there is also the incompetence and down right dishonesty of dealers. But I am talking about a proper engine machine shop who would hopefully know what they are doing. I guess you could always check it after a skim/refacing before actually refitting it. I just visited a Ford Main Dealer with a Ford Ka (inherited from Dad) which wouldn't start and had stumped me even when I got a basic OBD II code reader no obvious error codes to suggest why it wouldn't start. The Ford dealer wanted £66 just to carry out a "diagnostic" which they they didn't do and told me the fuel pump was knackered and some other Evap valve physically broken which I know wasn't as the car had only done 7k miles from new as my father bought it brand new and only did 4,200 miles in it and in my remaining 3k miles NOTHING has been physically broken certainly not in the location of the part they showed me. Anyway they wanted wait for it ........... £903 including VAT to repair and when I protested as it is a Mk1 Ka worth only £1000 max despite being like new bought from them new and with subsequent FULL Ford Service history, they reduced their quote to repair to £785.00 to a fit replacement fuel pump £560 and some Evap valve £235. They said the fuel pump was dead giving no pressure and no fuel to the engine. Thanks but no thanks so I paid them £66 for nothing just to get the car back and had to recover it to my home by breakdown service provider who reluctantly agreed. Once home the strange thing was that when I disconnected the fuel feed to the engine and turned it over fuel shot out of the fuel line like a water canon so the fuel pump is fine! SO still no nearer to solving them problem as to why it loses all power and dies on a long run after about 7-80m miles and won't then start, even weeks after when cold. No error coded for the fuel pump only the Evap circuit which doing my research on the internet and YT is really difficult to identify where a fault lies. Yep most garages and in particular main dealers are a bunch of crooks. So I share your reluctance to use and cynicism of them. But a reputable engine machine shop, shouldn't rip people off. Of course I know there are probably some that will but just saying. Good luck. How's the 106 cylinder head job coming on? ;@)
@@alexmorgan3435 it is worrying isn't it !!!!! an elderly lady friend of ours took her 2013 Citroen in for an MOT, thankfully I do trust our local garage for MOT's which tend to fail on things I expected but she took her car for an MOT and its was £300 which really surprised me. Apparently the windscreen washers failed the MOT. Normally this would be a blocked washer jet from my experience but no.......she needed a new washer motor !!!! Maybe it did fail but I'd be really surprised if it did. I'm going to pretend I didn't read the bit on the 106 cylinder head lol As soon as I read that I knew it was you haha.
@@CoatsandGaiters Only pulling your on the 106. Same thing happened to my elderly neighbour who had a Corsa, the last newer shape. It failed MOT on windscreen washers not working. So local garage outfit she took it to charged her £580 to replace the windscreen wiper motor. Total con artists. Within the next few months the head gasket failed. I suspect they loosened a few bolts most likely as it was fine before. I drove it a few times and checked it over a couple of times for her. Anyway she got rid of it for a VW Polo which she has had since about 3 years now (10 plate). It sounds you like me have always done your own servicing owing to lack of trust and bad experiences with car dealers and other dodgy independent garages. All the "good old boys" seem to have retired or died. One such old boy used to lend me tools I didn't have to help me service my cars. When I took them for MOT he and his mechanic who is probably coming up to retirement himself now used to say I looked after cars better than they did and they were really good. The old boy sold his old garage site in the middle of town. It's now a block of maisonettes. He used to have all the old signs and cans, miniature fire engines he lovingly maintained and took to steam fares. All gone consigned to history. When I were a lad .......... Thanks for your replies and making your videos. You have a natural gift. A+++.
@@alexmorgan3435 Blimey I never even thought of a garage loosening the head bolts !!!!! I bet some have though....good way to get business in with a loyal customer. I bet they do all sorts of things, my head doesn't work that way but to them I guess they see it as 'a way to survive' and its part of being a garage. There was an american series that interviewed garages over there and they openly said when a customer walks in for a standard service we hit them hard with up selling as thats the way we survive. Your like me, we prefer the old days, the local old boy mechanic working on a Morris Minor with pride. Cars were expensive items that you looked after unlike today where they are disposable. I expect the reality is though that the costs of living today wouldn't support a small one man band buying premises and repairing cars at ones own pace. You'd be forced to have to get so many in every day to cover the business rates. Thank you for that last compliment. It's really hard work to make a video, I find it exhausting using multiple cameras, syncing the sound etc......Its given me an idea on what some TH-camrs have gone through to be successful.
There’s a gauge cast into most heads. It’s horse shoe shaped on that one. Typically that’s the point where the valves will contact. He’s no where near it on this head. For a daily driver I’d be willing to scratch the bottom of it, and from the shots he’s only 1/2 way there. In normal driving the engine just won’t see the rpm’s to contact the valves, and the marginal raise in compression will likely be canceled out by a worn valve train, and fuel system.
It was just Builders contact adhesive, like the stuff used to hold carpet down I think. The Marking blue was the metal working type they use for scribing out. It's like a blue water more than a paint. Might be called layout stain or Prussian blue.
I never aniye or put the rings of an engine always the star and alternator yes in the car service but one master mechanic did not do what he does boy and the valve cover the same and it comes
If you click "SHOW MORE" in the description above your be able to see Links to the Tools 🔧🔨🔧 I use. Also Clickable Chapters📋 📙 throughout the video and other Links 🎬 that may be of interest. I've had a few viewers request where they can buy the tools they see in some of my videos but it's not very clear that the "SHOW MORE" tab has a lot of information in that may be of interest. Admittedly the amazon links are associated with me and I would earn a small commission which helps towards keeping the channel funded.
@Coats and Gaiters thanks for taking the time to make this, I've got an RSX that I need to take apart and hope is only a head gasket job but this gives me a way to evaluate and maybe even take a crack at repairing in the worst case! All your hard work editing and sharing is greatly appreciated!
Thank you. It does take some editing work. Good luck
Thank you, for taking the time to show us, very cleaver!!
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What's the grit for the last sanding?
@@iancarlosbenitez5281 think it was 120 grit
Thank you for the comment.
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Thank you so much for the nice comment. Happy 2020 to you from the UK
You need to sand side to side also when sanding. Back and forth wears the ends off a little more. Water Sand Paper and water can help with the clogging. 3M makes Adhesive Sand Paper by the Roll in multiple widths you can apply to a Stainless Steel Table with a flat top. I use back and forth/side to side and circular motions without leaning on the head. = I try to just use the weight of the Head when sanding. I don't use the Paint. You can see things well enough without it.
Thank you for your comment. Thankfully things worked out in the end and the engine ran ok. I think most engineers would cringe at me using sandpaper lol
@@CoatsandGaiters I sanded both Heads on a 02 Grand Am GT 3.4. Both Heads were warped/leaking. Runs good. It's a work out. Bought it at a Wrecker Auction. No Key No Start. 350$ Ran across your Vid looking for various valve lapping techniques. I'm replacing Valves in two y30a5 Honda 3.0 Heads. I'll sand a little on them, too. If only to clean the surface. Keep the Vids coming.
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If only lol. Very much a money saving amateur at work here.
Grit 40 is the best in my opinion. Very coarse and it will cut fast. You still have low spots on the edges of the head.
Hi nice video! How resolve this problem? Loose corners is good for install now up to block engine?
Thank you
How flat was the surface you sanded on? also what was the material of the surface not a proper marking out table
Was a stone slab from a builders merchant. No idea how flat. Flat enough to work though.
Hi, Your metric thicknesses are getting thicker but your imperial ones are getting thinner!!!!!! Surely not 1/n thousands but n thousands 1, 2, 3, 4,etc thou.
Anyway I would get an engine machine shop to skim the cylinder head if need be. It think it cost me £60 or £80 for a 4 cylinder head about 3 years ago. May have been less I cannot honestly remember unless I can find the receipt. To me that's money well spent to avoid all the grief of trying to skim it flat yourself. But good suff on checking it's flatness.
Hi and thank you for your comment. I partly wanted to see if It could be repaired by this method as I had seen it done in several videos online. I was also a bit concerned that if a machine shop made a mistake I would be without a head. I heard a whisper that sometimes if a garage or machine shop makes a mistake they have been known to find a reason for the head being damaged in some other way and saying it was scrap. I wouldn't be able to prove otherwise so would be without a cylinder head. I trusted a Volvo main dealer once to my extreme cost of £1,000. The lift pump failed in the fuel tank but they replaced that last after replacing the main fuel pump under the car and the fuel distributor. So a bill that should have been easily under £200 was made to be £1,000.
@@CoatsandGaiters Yep there is also the incompetence and down right dishonesty of dealers. But I am talking about a proper engine machine shop who would hopefully know what they are doing. I guess you could always check it after a skim/refacing before actually refitting it. I just visited a Ford Main Dealer with a Ford Ka (inherited from Dad) which wouldn't start and had stumped me even when I got a basic OBD II code reader no obvious error codes to suggest why it wouldn't start. The Ford dealer wanted £66 just to carry out a "diagnostic" which they they didn't do and told me the fuel pump was knackered and some other Evap valve physically broken which I know wasn't as the car had only done 7k miles from new as my father bought it brand new and only did 4,200 miles in it and in my remaining 3k miles NOTHING has been physically broken certainly not in the location of the part they showed me. Anyway they wanted wait for it ........... £903 including VAT to repair and when I protested as it is a Mk1 Ka worth only £1000 max despite being like new bought from them new and with subsequent FULL Ford Service history, they reduced their quote to repair to £785.00 to a fit replacement fuel pump £560 and some Evap valve £235. They said the fuel pump was dead giving no pressure and no fuel to the engine. Thanks but no thanks so I paid them £66 for nothing just to get the car back and had to recover it to my home by breakdown service provider who reluctantly agreed. Once home the strange thing was that when I disconnected the fuel feed to the engine and turned it over fuel shot out of the fuel line like a water canon so the fuel pump is fine! SO still no nearer to solving them problem as to why it loses all power and dies on a long run after about 7-80m miles and won't then start, even weeks after when cold. No error coded for the fuel pump only the Evap circuit which doing my research on the internet and YT is really difficult to identify where a fault lies. Yep most garages and in particular main dealers are a bunch of crooks. So I share your reluctance to use and cynicism of them. But a reputable engine machine shop, shouldn't rip people off. Of course I know there are probably some that will but just saying. Good luck. How's the 106 cylinder head job coming on? ;@)
@@alexmorgan3435 it is worrying isn't it !!!!! an elderly lady friend of ours took her 2013 Citroen in for an MOT, thankfully I do trust our local garage for MOT's which tend to fail on things I expected but she took her car for an MOT and its was £300 which really surprised me. Apparently the windscreen washers failed the MOT. Normally this would be a blocked washer jet from my experience but no.......she needed a new washer motor !!!! Maybe it did fail but I'd be really surprised if it did. I'm going to pretend I didn't read the bit on the 106 cylinder head lol As soon as I read that I knew it was you haha.
@@CoatsandGaiters Only pulling your on the 106. Same thing happened to my elderly neighbour who had a Corsa, the last newer shape. It failed MOT on windscreen washers not working. So local garage outfit she took it to charged her £580 to replace the windscreen wiper motor. Total con artists. Within the next few months the head gasket failed. I suspect they loosened a few bolts most likely as it was fine before. I drove it a few times and checked it over a couple of times for her. Anyway she got rid of it for a VW Polo which she has had since about 3 years now (10 plate). It sounds you like me have always done your own servicing owing to lack of trust and bad experiences with car dealers and other dodgy independent garages. All the "good old boys" seem to have retired or died. One such old boy used to lend me tools I didn't have to help me service my cars. When I took them for MOT he and his mechanic who is probably coming up to retirement himself now used to say I looked after cars better than they did and they were really good. The old boy sold his old garage site in the middle of town. It's now a block of maisonettes. He used to have all the old signs and cans, miniature fire engines he lovingly maintained and took to steam fares. All gone consigned to history. When I were a lad .......... Thanks for your replies and making your videos. You have a natural gift. A+++.
@@alexmorgan3435 Blimey I never even thought of a garage loosening the head bolts !!!!! I bet some have though....good way to get business in with a loyal customer. I bet they do all sorts of things, my head doesn't work that way but to them I guess they see it as 'a way to survive' and its part of being a garage. There was an american series that interviewed garages over there and they openly said when a customer walks in for a standard service we hit them hard with up selling as thats the way we survive. Your like me, we prefer the old days, the local old boy mechanic working on a Morris Minor with pride. Cars were expensive items that you looked after unlike today where they are disposable. I expect the reality is though that the costs of living today wouldn't support a small one man band buying premises and repairing cars at ones own pace. You'd be forced to have to get so many in every day to cover the business rates. Thank you for that last compliment. It's really hard work to make a video, I find it exhausting using multiple cameras, syncing the sound etc......Its given me an idea on what some TH-camrs have gone through to be successful.
How long did the head gasket hold up after this?
Still on the road and going
At this stage I’d be feeling rather depressed - the amount of metal removal by sanding is mind numbing…..😂😂😂😂
It worked though, car drove lovely afterwards.
There’s a gauge cast into most heads. It’s horse shoe shaped on that one. Typically that’s the point where the valves will contact. He’s no where near it on this head. For a daily driver I’d be willing to scratch the bottom of it, and from the shots he’s only 1/2 way there. In normal driving the engine just won’t see the rpm’s to contact the valves, and the marginal raise in compression will likely be canceled out by a worn valve train, and fuel system.
Sir, may i know what kind of paint and adhesive spray that you used? thanks.
It was just Builders contact adhesive, like the stuff used to hold carpet down I think. The Marking blue was the metal working type they use for scribing out. It's like a blue water more than a paint. Might be called layout stain or Prussian blue.
@@CoatsandGaiters Thank you sir, my fortuner getting overheat then i open the cylinder head i was found out there is a warp 0.008th/inc.
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I never aniye or put the rings of an engine always the star and alternator yes in the car service but one master mechanic did not do what he does boy and the valve cover the same and it comes
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