My mates and I used to crank this album every weekend! Saw them live a few months after "Fly" aired on MTV. Indoor venue. 99% of the crowd just sat or stood there... The entire set! Then, they closed with "Fly" and every "fan" suddenly had energy. Except for the OGs. We left to grab a drink & break before 311 came on. Still, a great night.
Probably one of my favs on the album and such an underrated album! Funny story I actually found this album by accident in a thrift store. Had never heard of it or anything from it before. Best random find ever! Ha
They eventually went all-pop, but they always seemed to have more than a few tracks where they seemed to be experimenting with a party hip-hop pop kind of style. The intro on lemonade and brownies, Danzig needs a hug, and scuzz-boots were all pop songs. they seemed playful and experimental, like they were thrown in for fun but they were pop-sounding. It makes me wonder if It was required by the label to do a few pop songs, or if sugar ray intended on showing that they could take that market too if they wanted to? Meshing hip-hop rhythms and different types of rock was the recipe that was popular at the time, and it influenced a lot of the post-grunge sound that permeated the music scene in the late 90's. The music ranged from hard to soft for a lot of artists. These guys went' all pop, but from the beginning it looked to me like they had the capacity to do that. Plus, I have to admit, the musical structure of Fly is an incredible one. Please don't get me wrong, I used to love RPM, Iron Mike, 10 seconds down, all of the heavy ones, but I'm telling you, Fly was the perfect union of Hip-Hop and acoustic pop-rock with some dancehall reggae thrown in, and it's in a similar direction as the experimental pop songs on lemonade and brownies. So I still wonder if a song like Fly was the result of their initial intentions or not. Because Floored is a heavy album, but Fly is on it.
@@TMundohere you're totally right, I wrote that 3 years ago when I was pissed about it, I have no hate for their pop rock stuff. I found sugar ray via their appearance in the Scooby-doo movie back in the early 2000s, my first exposure to their music was that same style.
@@CaptainDugog I just assumed they always had pop music up their sleeve. It wasn't like Fly was their first pop song. Danzig Needs a Hug was a pop-song Scuzz Boots is a light R&B tune. I don't know if DJ Lethal or DJ Homicide came up with the ideas or if the producers were responsible but their pop style was already in use long before Fly came out. It's just that after the success of Fly, they didn't do anymore scratch-metal which was disappointing. The liner notes on Floored also indicate the realness of the personalities of the group members. Sellout, Cheapskate, etc. It's like they knew what they were doing
@@TMundohere I watched a video on Murphy's channel, he said fly came out of a time of desperation and boredom when Mark just wasn't feeling his vocals over some of the demo's from floored. He apparently left for several days and when he came back, the bassline, drum machine loops and guitar sections were already put together from the band.
Well actually Floored was their last full album to have heavy tracks in it. The only track on the 14 59 album that did kind of had that hard feeling to it was Glory.
While I like it I get why they changed. Everyone sounded like this at the time and they were neither first nor the best at it. It was either soldier on and eventually break up or shift to pop and make some money. I can at least appreciate that Mark McGrath seems like a cool dude
Damn Sugar Ray were good back then. Lemonade and Brownies is one of my all time fav records. I keep getting back to that record.
I can't agree with this enough. Easily always in my top 10 Rock N Roll records. It was a first for me at the perfect time. Thanks, Escape From L.A.
Seeing them with Snot would have been a dream
I love the first two not really dissing their change, but the first two discs, hands down favorite
I remember the first time I heard "Fly", I was told it was by Sugar Ray. I replied, "but, there's already a band called Sugar Ray".
My mates and I used to crank this album every weekend!
Saw them live a few months after "Fly" aired on MTV.
Indoor venue. 99% of the crowd just sat or stood there... The entire set! Then, they closed with "Fly" and every "fan" suddenly had energy. Except for the OGs. We left to grab a drink & break before 311 came on.
Still, a great night.
Man never heard sugar ray this heavy . I know them thru that someday song haha
Lemonade and Brownies: Good
Floored: Good except that one song is kinda iffy.
Sugar Ray: Let's make all our songs like that one song from now on!
That sums it up after the release of Fly. It was an experiment that gone wrong lol!
Fly and Someday brought me here and songs from Lemonade and Brownies keep me around
Probably one of my favs on the album and such an underrated album! Funny story I actually found this album by accident in a thrift store. Had never heard of it or anything from it before. Best random find ever! Ha
Saw this on headbangers ball in 96
This sound was their core, then they went commercial...which is no indictment but the end to their soul
LOVE IT
back before they sold their souls to the pop industry and ruined their nu metal style.
Everything was for sale. The difference is that the bad money surpass the good money. In our terms good money is our sound, bad money is POP.
They eventually went all-pop, but they always seemed to have more than a few tracks where they seemed to be experimenting with a party hip-hop pop kind of style. The intro on lemonade and brownies, Danzig needs a hug, and scuzz-boots were all pop songs. they seemed playful and experimental, like they were thrown in for fun but they were pop-sounding. It makes me wonder if It was required by the label to do a few pop songs, or if sugar ray intended on showing that they could take that market too if they wanted to? Meshing hip-hop rhythms and different types of rock was the recipe that was popular at the time, and it influenced a lot of the post-grunge sound that permeated the music scene in the late 90's. The music ranged from hard to soft for a lot of artists. These guys went' all pop, but from the beginning it looked to me like they had the capacity to do that. Plus, I have to admit, the musical structure of Fly is an incredible one. Please don't get me wrong, I used to love RPM, Iron Mike, 10 seconds down, all of the heavy ones, but I'm telling you, Fly was the perfect union of Hip-Hop and acoustic pop-rock with some dancehall reggae thrown in, and it's in a similar direction as the experimental pop songs on lemonade and brownies. So I still wonder if a song like Fly was the result of their initial intentions or not. Because Floored is a heavy album, but Fly is on it.
@@TMundohere you're totally right, I wrote that 3 years ago when I was pissed about it, I have no hate for their pop rock stuff.
I found sugar ray via their appearance in the Scooby-doo movie back in the early 2000s, my first exposure to their music was that same style.
@@CaptainDugog I just assumed they always had pop music up their sleeve. It wasn't like Fly was their first pop song. Danzig Needs a Hug was a pop-song Scuzz Boots is a light R&B tune. I don't know if DJ Lethal or DJ Homicide came up with the ideas or if the producers were responsible but their pop style was already in use long before Fly came out. It's just that after the success of Fly, they didn't do anymore scratch-metal which was disappointing.
The liner notes on Floored also indicate the realness of the personalities of the group members. Sellout, Cheapskate, etc. It's like they knew what they were doing
@@TMundohere I watched a video on Murphy's channel, he said fly came out of a time of desperation and boredom when Mark just wasn't feeling his vocals over some of the demo's from floored. He apparently left for several days and when he came back, the bassline, drum machine loops and guitar sections were already put together from the band.
Sorta Powerman 5000? Ay? Anybody with me?
Mega kung fu radio! Yeah
My brother and I loved their first album... then when their next one came out we were like WTF is this shit?
Well actually Floored was their last full album to have heavy tracks in it. The only track on the 14 59 album that did kind of had that hard feeling to it was Glory.
While I like it I get why they changed. Everyone sounded like this at the time and they were neither first nor the best at it. It was either soldier on and eventually break up or shift to pop and make some money. I can at least appreciate that Mark McGrath seems like a cool dude
Hi there, I'm Fasil. Have you seen College Humored "If Google was a Guy" series? Mark makes a self-depricating appearance as himself.
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