11:35 In l4d the zombies are all still alive, and never died, they are just infected. Id describe them as drug addicts, in realism they still take too many shots, but it makes more sense when you realize they probaly dont feel a thing. would be cool if someone made an ultra realistic mode. where weapons are accurate with their real life counterparts, zombies are durable, but not as much as they are normally, and if theres a weapon spawn than only one person can pick it up ((why does 1 spas-12 on the table suddenly transform into 4)) and with less resources overall
Technically, realistically the zombies' numb pain sensation means that they'll drop faster than humans. They will overexert themselves, burning their already rotting bodies' needs and will do anything to get to you, but that gaping suckling wound Coach's M1014 or Nick's AR15 caused while they were rushing ain't going away; they will collapse onto the ground because the nerves are shot and they lost a chunk of their center mass, technically living but no more threatening to you than anyone else. Hell, if anything, bleedouts are of extreme concern to those zombies, considering that a single 50 AE or 5.56 NATO round is enough to tear off their backs, rip their mouths and maim their limbs. Those heavy hits to major arteries (and several other important innards) translate to just how quick they will kick the bucket even if the bullets don't end them. Remember that L4D2's zombies are alive, and their bodies will expire faster than normal humans because we have biological checks and balances to keep ourselves kicking. The zombie virus taking that out means that, sure, they'll be stronger than humans in the short term, but they'll drop 2 weeks since the first infection at most and three days average. Oh yes, have I mentioned that humans - and by proxy the zombies - also need food and drinks? While we have no indication that zombies drink or eat leftover foods, we also have no indication that they _do_ eat the flesh of the uninfected or drink from the rivers or large water bodies that can also kill them if they so much as sneeze at them funny. They also seem to vomit alarmingly many times, so dehydration remains an effective zombie killer. It really is a miracle that Bill, Zoey, Francis and Louis even manage to fight a dozen zombies (not counting specials, which should already be deader than dead given their mutations,) much less a thousand on average on their trip to Mercy Hospital, because the Green Flu should, realistically, spreads fast and kills faster.
@@l.q.a.6279 there are slight indications that the survivors do go find food for example coach eating chocolate in the cinematic cutscene they most likely eat food from stores they go to which could be pretty uncommon not too uncommon but still uncommon
@@kyle.4590 This is why I only ever use certain melee. The only ones worth using are the fire axe, machete, and chainsaw. Sometimes the bat/guitar can be ok if you got nothing else. Otherwise every other melee kinda sucks ass and is too risky with its donkey hitboxes...especailly the pitchfork and knife.
this entire video feels like an essay someone had to write for a class but they had no idea what to write so they just ended up rambling on forever and ever sticking vaguely to the topic of whatever the prompt was until eventually it just ends
Realism really tests your experience in the game. The positions of the weapons, spawn points for throwables, and the very delicate hearing u should have to spot the specials walking towards u. I love it, but it really gets me at some points
expert realism is really fun with full team of friends. even if you fail you can just laugh it out or make jokes. good times! I also think that's the reason why you don't find public expert realism servers/lobbies easily. random players can make things even worse than bots can and completely ruin experience.
When I play L4D, I always play Advanced Realism, because for me that’s the sweetspot of feeling that all the infected will be a threat but it doesn’t make you feel frustrated. It feels like a true cooperative horror game. While the normal version feels too easy and arcadish. I only play Expert with teammates. Because bots well… You know. Maybe it’s just me because I grew up with COD Zombies, or maybe others do feel that way as well.
honestly yeah. I always felt like the normal campaign felt pretty easy unless it was on expert. ((than it was a little frustrating)) so realism advanced is kind of my favorite way to play
I usually will run expert with my brother whenever we hangout smash a couple of beers and give it one shot we always make it to chapter 5 but sometimes the finale is hard with two bots still a fun time tho 😂
The partner bots ai are slow af compared to the enemy ai lol plus the large chunks of health dropping in less than 5 seconds and hoards spawning is ridiculous lol
Expert Realism just has the best feeling though when you master headshotting even with the wonky ass hitboxes the infected have. I dead ass shot 3 magnum shots on a standing still zombie center of chest without crouching and 3 of those bullets didn’t hit but the 4th somehow headshotted…. Yeah….
this kinda makes me wish to see how an actually realistic game mode would be like - without caring about balance, just trying to make everything make as much sense as possible i know that focusing on realism so much usually ruins games, but as a gamemode that sounds interesting to see
@Chabooey I don't think any campaign takes more than 2 hours to complete even if you're really taking your time exploring, so having hunger for such a small timeframe is a bit excessive
Ooh, may I add into the Realism+ proposal? - Everyone has _higher damage output._ A hunter might incapacitate Zoey faster than normal, but Bill's M4A1 fires 5.56x45mm and those things are deadly. - Realistic weapons. No more 40-round AK hybrid with pissant rate of fire or a burst firing SCAR-L. Give me an AKM with 30 rounds and 600 rounds per minute and a SCAR that isn't rejected by the monkeys at FN Herstal. - _Horizontal recoil._ Yes, apparently in the world of L4D, guns only kick up, not sideways. - Staged reloads. Ellis just drops his magazine and suddenly needs to switch to his fire axe. He should not redo his reload animation after he switches back to his rifle; he should have continued from his supposedly gun with no magazine, load up a fresh one and hit the bolt release. - _Different reloads._ Yes, in L4D2, only pistols have tactical reloads. Everything else apparently have no tactical reloads, half-empty mags don't exist the moment it leaves the gun, and every survivor has ADHD and has to work the bolt even if there's already one bullet in the chamber. Add new reloads into the mix, let us keep our half-spent magazines, or even let us choose to keep them or drop them to the ground, the latter resulting in quicker reloads at the exchange of all the ammo you tossed away. - _Magazine management._ Francis, in his reloading mania, suddenly realizes that he pulled so many tactical reloads all he has now is 5 STANAG magazines with 4-5 bullets each. Oops.
I think the witch being a damage sponge in realism kind of adds to the original fear everyone has... before they learn that shotguns can 1-hit her. I kind of like it, because she is either a nuclear bomb or the weakest zombie in the game, depends if you have a shotgun. But in realism that goes straight out the window, because she'll be rather strong regardless. On the other hand, if you're like me and my friend, just arm yourself and another player with shotguns and go brrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr on her ass.
The one thing in realism is that you don’t wanna get hit by the witch. Because last I knew, getting hit by the witch on realism is immediate death. No matter how much health you have
@@axinhedgelion8417 That's basically the whole point, unless you go brrrrrrrrrrrrr with 2 or 3 shotguns on her. I did that with my friend once and she died before getting startled, but only the wandering witch. The sitting witch will kill you tho lmao
@@ellenhunter5531 You can kill a Sitting Witch, although it's hard for people that aren't experienced enough. You come up behind her, shoot her (try to aim for the head), jump to avoid her first swing (you need to see which of her attack it is, if it is the longer, overhead one then jump later, if it's the quick one then jump as soon as she's startled), aim for the head, and she should die before killing you.
The one nice thing about the Realism Witch is that she cannot just delete doors and actually has to break it down You can literally recreate the L4D1 Intro Scene with Louis startling the Witch (though she can still hit you from the other side though lol)
I'd reckon a truly "realistic" realism would be a lot more boring and maybe even tedious. Less zombies, less loot, less hp, no saferooms, etc. You'd only encounter 10 zombies in Cold Stream because it's in the middle of a forest, Chargers immediately incapacitate after a couple smashes, gunshots summon hordes, Bill has a 40% chance of suffering from a heart attack, melee weapons only take out 1 zombie and have a 5 second cooldown, all that stuff.
Speaking of things that don't make sense, the defib is by far the best addition to the game. Both in terms of what it adds gameplay-wise and in pure comedy factor. My best defib moment was when I used one to revive a teammate who had been dead for 10 min straight. While fully submerged in swamp water. And I'm standing in the water as I electrocute him 🤣
Ah yes expert realism, the game mode that made me improve my way of playing and a make me love left 4 dead 2, I learned lot from players with +3000 hours and eventually befriended them, mostly adapting to there play style how position yourself, coordination, when to use items and mostly being stuck playing as a duo (mostly because our teammates die constantly) and one thing they left clear to me the more I played was you know your team is good to the point where you don't take stuff seriously and purposely make the game harder for yourself as well as your teammates and to never give up, you always have to keep fighting as long as one survivor is still standing we still have a chance to win.
I don't think the "Realism" mode is meant to reflect _real_ realism, but _zombie_ realism. It seems to be making the zombies in L4D function like more traditional zombies.
couldn't have said It better myself, as a person that has been playing this mode for 800+ hours, you've managed to say everything i ever thought of this mode.
5:59 Fun fact (again): The Deagle in Left 4 Dead 2 is not actually chambered in .50AE, but rather .44, hence why it has 8 rounds in it magazine instead of 7.
Whitakers shop advertises it as a *".50 Desert Cobra"* in the game itself, so it seems safe to say it's not a .44 and they just gave it a slightly larger magazine for game balance. Just like the 50-60 round Assault Rifles modelled with 30-round magazines, but far harder to spot. Apparently, the America in L4D did develop an 8-round .50AE variant at some point.
@@vegeta002 It could be something left over from earlier builds they never really bothered to change, and in-game it is called the "Magnum Pistol" as opposed to the "Deagle" or a similar name The Survivors when spotting and picking up the gun call it "The Magnum" or "Magnum Pistol" as well as other names but not "Deagle" or "Cobra", which means it would make more sense if it was the .44 variant as opposed to the .50 one. Also, it’s internal name is "pistol_magnum".
@@kyle.4590 I know what the survivors and game files call it, but those aren't the official _in-universe_ names. Canonically, it's called the Desert Cobra in-universe and (at least according to Whitaker's advertisements) is a .50. static.wikia.nocookie.net/left4dead/images/a/a0/Sign_gunshop_magnum.png/revision/latest?cb=20091119082848 Even if it makes more sense for it to be a .44, the game lore doesn't match.
@@vegeta002 Fair, most of the guns in L4D2 are really just a mix of several similar weapons. The P220 and Glock 26 seen when using the pistols are a mix of several different variants. The Assault Rifle seen in even L4D1 is the M16A2, despite being automatic. The AK47 is actually the AKMN, based off of the AK74 according to some of the devs. The Hunting Rifle, also seen in L4D1 is the Mini-14 which uses intermediate rifle cartages but despite that deals the same damage as the Military sniper (G3SG/1) which uses a higher caliber. A lot of things about the firearms don’t make much sense but I guess that’s valve. Heck, some of this info might not even be correct, what would someone like me know about guns?
Realism is an incredibly fun difficulty option, however if you play expert realism then the biggest threat isn’t any special infected or the tank, but commons because they do 20dmg on hit usually and end up swarming you. Not to mention that no proximity damage multiplier makes auto weapons worse because they don’t stun the infected so you end up going with shotguns, because a meatshot at least staggers them
Im slowly starting to love your channel, its like a space where its mostly people who still play L4D2 to this day and that means you discuss things about the game that only maniacs like us know about. Also your music choice is awesome, Manhunt and Cry Of Fear soundtracks in the same video is something I didn't expect lol
Has anyone eve told you that you give off some major old school AVGN vibes? Watching him growing up was always the best, and your mannerisms are bringing me back.
I think that the inconsistent health pools in some infected u talk about happens due to Valve using a % of resistance to certain damage type in certain infected, rather than increasing the health pool of infected to fit every weapon damage potential.
You would be right, commons have the same health but have heavily increased damage resistance. The Witch inherits the Common Infected Damage multiplier which is why you cannot one-shot her to the body in campaign expert.
My friends and I tried playing realism expert for one day, but stopped when we realized 70% of the damage we were taking was friendly fire because we suck. Still had a ton of fun on normal expert mode though
Honestly expert realism is incredibly difficult but probably the most fun and fulfilling experience I get from Left 4 dead 2. Every other mode and difficulty is just too easy. The zombies taking more damage makes sense to me. They aren’t shambling rotting corpses, they’re like the infected in 28 weeks later filled with rage and a primal desire to chase down and kill all survivors relentlessly. In those movies the infected are constantly flooded with adrenaline and can keep fighting through gunshots and missing limbs because of that adrenaline. Valve took a large amount of inspiration from those movies and it’s my favourite zombie game of all time.
When it comes to the witch, I don't know if this is the case, but shotguns in L4D have a special ammo type that ramps up their damage dealt significantly when being used at point blank specifically against the Witch. This is something that is likely disabled in Realism. That combined with the general realism bodyshot damage resistance may be the source of the inconsistencies with her in Realism.
I liked the idea of realism, but what turns me off from it is the limitation on the weapons you can use due to the damage reduction changes, most assault rifles are kinda useless unless you are a god at headshots, sniper rifles could be good if your teammates clear the horde and give you a chance to snipe the special infected (or if you have the magnum or a melee at hand), and shotguns are mostly mandatory to have, otherwise the commons just chew your ammo like it's their everyday meal, it kinda limits your options on what to run due to it.
If you start a Realism game with the game instructor, one of the tips tells you: “Shots to the body does less damage, aim for the head!” or something like that So it’s intentional (but not as bad as headshots only)
@@kyle.4590 You know how it is with commons tho, their hitboxes are a gamble sometimes, when they are crouched in a vent or something it is impossible to shove them. They can get bugged in some structures and the last thing happens again, you don't want to give them any opportunities for it, that's why I feel like shotguns are the only viable choice for clearing commons, along with magnums.
@@fede4906 Commons are impossible to shove when they are crouch (which is kinda dumb but I guess you have to just get used to it) Personally I don’t have much of problems with headshots in Realism, which is why I use the Assault Rifle a lot (it’s pretty good at scoring headshots). But yes the Common Headshot hitbox is a bit wonky and stupid at times.
@@kyle.4590 Fair enough, I just prefer to get rid of them as soon as possible. I mostly have other teammates use other weapons to take care of specials while I clean with the magnum or make the horde follow me to a narrow corner to get rid of them with the shotgun, Hell, sometimes I do a funny and let myself be puked by a boomer and be a walking pipe bomb if I have a good spot to kill them.
Assault rifles are still fine for realism. You just need to be smarter about how you use them. They're still good for taking down specials (which is what your main weapon is really for). You mostly kill common with your sidearm. Melee or magnum.
For someone who was actually planning on getting the expert realism achievement this week, this video was super helpful and its about to be some bullll for me real soon.
I honestly like how commons take 3 shots shots from a sniper to kill instead of one. It incentivizes headshots and weapon diversity, plus the snipers are still the most effective weapon when it comes to killing specials. Realism became my favorite game mode after so many hours, because I have anger issues and don’t play versus. It has a small community, but at least it exist (unlike scavenge). Usually every time I play, I usually run into the same people who also enjoy the game mode.
I can't go back to normal mode because it just becomes a game of grabbing a sniper and using that the entire run for every single map. Boring. Realism I'm finding some t1 weapons to actually be superior in some scenarios. That's interesting
Fun Fact: Disabled Rescue Closets was actually a feature in earlier in-dev builds of L4D1, until the devs realised that waiting 10-15 minutes for the map to end just to respawn was not a good idea and they made rescue closets. Since L4D2 has defibs it’s not as bad but Realism was designed for Experienced Teams putting their cooperation skills to work, so someone that died would be fine with waiting until the map ends (or until everyone wipes).
The mention of custom campaigns throughout the video makes reminds me of something I've always wondered. Why do some public servers for custom campaigns force players to play Expert Realism and punish them for wanting to play lower? Not every custom handles the kind of factors you list at 8:50 in a way that's fun (some I've played are bad about it even on lower difficulties) and it can be an annoyance to people who just want to try it out first. Of course you could always just play it solo first or try to host locally for friends but there's bound to be somebody out there with a unique set of inconveniences edit: to be clear i dont dislike expert or realism or both, ive had some fun times playing expert and can see why people enjoy the high difficulty
The servers you're talking about (Last Regret is the name I think) do that because they're meant to be servers that have extra difficulty. The name in the steam group server browser even says "Beyond Expert Realism"
pro tip: in realism the best way to handle the witch is to have someone shoot the witch and then down the person via friendly fire so the witch can't kill them
I almost exclusively play expert realism, but even I feel like I need a break from it now and then lol. My main issue with it is just the amount of damage weapons do in it, that sometimes I go back to play regular expert and the number of viable gun options makes it so refreshing. It's almost as if the developers intended you not to use the same 3 guns the entire game lol
People now ONLY use fucking deagle 24/7 i legit saw guys with 90%+ deagle weapon usage stats! They will steal weapons from you just to carry it on the back and never use it. And they also same people that will use that buggy spots to sit in where enemy cant get to them.
I always wondering if anyone else knows about the common infected die immediately when you shoot them in the legs, cause they never had a crawling animation on them. It’s been a while since I played Realism, so I don’t know if shooting the legs is viable or not.
For the damage values each body part has a percent modifier to how much damage it takes, like in counter strike. In regular campaign I believe its all set to 100% with the head being 150% or 200%, but in realism the body is set to 50% so they take half damage to the body, and I'm sure the witch head value was lowered as well to prevent crowning. That's why the health values are the same but the zombies are tankier.
You are correct about the damage modifiers, but not on the numbers. Here are what the actual values are: Easy - x2 Normal - x1 Advanced - x0.75 Expert/Realism Easy - x0.5 Realism Normal - x0.37 Realism Advanced/Expert - x0.25 These values are also used for the Witch, but the main reason she tanks buckshot to the face is because shotguns don’t have their x5 close-range damage multiplier from campaign mode. (Only applies to commons and the witch) Headshots always instantly kill commons and deal x4 damage to Special Infected, against the Witch it deals x1 damage and it is non-existent on the Tank.
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The tank is kind of BS. In the first game, he has aimbot. In the sequel, he can read your keyboard. It's possible to dodge his rock, you just have to know how to manipulate him at the right time. All that is missing is for him to punch then immidietly throw a rock.
Realism is left 4 deads version of doom eternals ultra nightmare mode. I enjoy the challenge it brings but I also put it 4-6 hours for sessions when I play l4d. I would love to see an actual realism mode, where zombies die faster but so so you as well as other resources being stripped. Maybe have the mode use options based on how many weeks into the green flu epidemic. So like 7 days in is super tough infected but 28 days they are as fragile as paper. Idk just spitballing rn
I mostly play on Advanced difficulty with my friends and when playing by myself. While I agree that normal becomes too easy Overtime. Advanced always gives me a nice challenge and imo sets a more appropriate tone for the games story. This is a zombie apocalypse, and the zombies aren't just meat for your bullets, they are legitimate threats to you and whoever you're playing with. That being said, I don't play Expert because it's bullshit, at least to me anyway, punches hurt, but 5-10 punches is not gonna knock someone out most of the time, unless it's the Tank, his hands are bigger than my monitor. Realism does add a nice challenge for me, but thats only because it forces you to play better and be 200% aware of your surroundings. With the friends I play with, and the team we are? realism would basically be paying rent for 4 people where only one of them actually works a job, and gets paid minimum wage. We're all idiots, and that imo adds a realistic factor into the game, since no human is incapable of making stupid decisions, a human can think for themselves or for others. And as stupid as my friends and I can be, we've consistently proven we're more reliable than the bots. So that's why I don't play Expert, or realism, because with human teammates on Advanced the game already feels realistic enough for a zombie apocalypse. Sorry for the wall of text btw
You got us all killed by looking for a thumper in the blood harvest finale. While I always tell you when I'm reloading and when a special infected is around
Had they balanced the zombies and weapons better, maybe Realism wouldn't be the mess it is now. The weapons could use special tuning for each individual function, same for the special infected: a Charger may be able to take more hits in realism than say a Spitter due to physical appearance* and size. A Witch could be deadly but frail in HP but not too frail as to be laughable, the Tank can be... well, a tank-- and be the real highlight of the challenge in realism with the zombies. The common should realistically be the most frail and weak individually but excel in greater numbers-- like an actual horde... It feels like they just wanted to make a "harder Expert" difficulty but made a confused, frustrating mess. edit: wording
@@kyle.4590 They should just flip the game around: Survivors die from about anything, whereas zombies are true bullet sponges. That would make it realistic. Not the ridiculous battle of attrition this game has always been
I play Expert Realism exclusively, other than PvP modes. I love it because it rewards patience, situational awareness, good positioning and team cohesion. No single enemy can be treated as a trivial threat, and if you're not on the ball, you will get slapped to death in short order by commons. The Mac-10 is my favorite weapon, due to its spread it's paradoxically easier to land headshots consistently - just don't crouch unless at long range (in which case, pistols are better anyway), aim at head height and tap away firing short bursts. The Magnum is bread-and-butter, and almost trivializes the difficulty as long as you're taking your time and checking your corners - and you turn into a sentry turret when downed. Also makes it very easy to protect teammates in a pinch - just don't try if you're not confident in your aim, because it will down teammates in 1, 2 or 3 shots depending on their HP. The SG552 is basically a direct upgrade to the Mac-10, with good spread recovery and that paradoxical high-ish base-spread making it easier to hit heads - with the added benefit of high single-shot, crouched accuracy and a scope for you to use at distance and plink heads off unaware infected. Just get a better skin for it (and all the CSS weapons) cause the default one is ugly - I like "SG552 animated" The M60 is basically a magnum with extended mag - same with Exp/Inc rounds on any SMG/AR, as long as you're hitting center-mass and ping is on your side. Take single-shots and make them count. If you already have a magnum, only switch to it if in danger of being overwhelmed. Also Exp's ability to stumble specials or splash them from around corners becomes a godsend. Dual pistols are headshot machines, you just gotta find the knack to aiming them. The pistols are the worst secondaries, but they're not terrible. If you have a mouse macro set up, or put fire on mousewheel or simply have a really fast mouse1 finger, the duals are basically a back-up SMG in your pocket. The auto-shotties are what many people purport as the best weapons for the mode, since they're really effective at horde-clear - if you're unloading buckshot beyond point-blank range, chances are at least one of those pellets is going to headshot, whilst other targets will be stumbled and severely damaged. They're really good at creating breathing room, but I don't like them much because of the bullet-by-bullet reload. The pump-shotties are basically the poor-man's magnum, able to one-shot commons at close range but are otherwise pretty inefficient. Still really fun to use though. The snipers - the MSG-90 is pretty decent as long as you can constantly pick heads, it has the accuracy stats to do so - and in a pinch, body shots can be plenty viable. The M16 is probably the best all-rounder, while the AK is close behind, but my preference is the M16 due to spread/recovery/movement stats. AK's definitely better for horde-clear because of the higher torso damage, but you lose too much in precision to make consistent headshots in lower-intensity fights
This honestly makes me wanna make a script called “Actual Realism” where; Damage, and Magazine capacities of weapons reflect their real life counterparts. Common infected aren’t tanky. Survivors can’t be revived through any means. All of the hud is gone. The special infected are weaker and headshots insta kill some. The witch would die from any shotgun to the head, or two to the torso. Weapon pickups only give one weapon. And ammo piles have limited use. I think it could work for people wanting a challenge that somewhat seems fair.
I only ever do expert realism, it makes you a much better player. You learn to aim for the head, to stand back, and take it slowly and to take advantage of doors and exploding tanks etc. Always have a molotov for the tank ready, if you can, use a shotgun until you can find an AK47, if you get a sniper, take the time to take out all the infected you can see in your sight, it'll make it a lot easier
6:13 dude, it's payday 2's Specialized Killing (15-30% damage increase for a suppressed weapon), don't worry about it, it got kicked out of the game for being a straight no brainer to pick up, now left 4 dead realism gives you Specialized Killing as it's new home, you welcome.
12:22 Is that the Cry of Fear OST? I just finished unlocking most of the stuff in the game, that includes Simon's Book which requires an S rank in Nightmare mode. For anyone wondering about the song name its "Cry of Fear Soundtrack: Brandon". Edit: Just realized I'm a dumbass and the music used is listed in the description. I just got too excited. After rediscovering CoF (watched the big name TH-camrs play it in around 2012 when I was a kid), its one of my favorite games ever, definitely the best Free game out there. Brandon is also one of the best music tracks in the game.
disabling HUD except for your own health bar would be so cool, requiring you to keep tabs on how your team looks or if they are asking for meds…THATS realism
There was a scraped official mutation called “Ultra-Realism” and it turned off all hud elements. It was probably scraped though because It didn’t really do enough to change the gameplay. (and I don’t think scavenge finale gas cans were effected either)
A few things I've learned from my Left 4 Dead 2's "Last Man on Earth in Expert difficulty runs... The Special Infected are *RELENTLESS AND REMORSELESS.* The least dangerous Special Infected is the Spitter and she can be easily be one shotted with a Tier 2 shotgun. But the ones that are really annoying are the Jockey, Smoker and Charger - unless you're skilled enough without hacks n stuff, then you have no problem but the most annoying Special Infected you need to watch out for is the Hunter. Once he pounces you and gets you to colorblind mode, *he stands on you as you get up and CLAWS you meaning you're dead!*
Conclusion Go for the heads Is all about the Heads It makes sense in some zombie movies,if the head is destroyed,the zombie is dead. Or just find a shotgun,deagle and clean up the areas before starting the events. Or simply find machete or a nightstick and clear the horders by yourself. Or just camp on top of a ladder and check the surrounding(from unknow reason the commons simply dies if u step on their heads). The best example been the lighthouse in The Last Stand campaign. This gamemode is sometimes wierd in terms of "realistic".
The health of the infected isn’t increased, the damage multiplier with where you shoot is affected. Infected can have the damage that weapons do change based on where they’re hit. For example, the charger takes 2 hits to die from a melee, but 1 if the head is hit. It takes 5 hits to kill smokers if their legs are hit with melee weapons, but 1 if any other part of their body is hit. So basically the infected don’t gain bonus HP, just that bullets that aren’t headshots have their damage reduced. Shotguns still one shot because they still do around 250 damage, not including the 5x multiplier when at close range against common infected. On realism, body shots always do lower damage (.5x on easy, .375x on normal, and .25x for hard and expert) so multiplying 20x their max health by .25 isn’t gonna be lower than their max health. As for witch crowning, the shotguns do less damage on a witch. Witches usually take 5x the damage from shotguns at point blank, allowing any shotgun to crown her, except on realism, which removes the damage bonus, requiring you to hit 4 headshots (making crowning only possible with an auto) to kill her. Basically: Body shots do less damage against commons and witches, but headshots, m60 bullets, explosive rounds, melees, and the magnum still kill commons instantly, regardless of gamemode and difficulty. Special infected are still as easy as ever to kill, they aren’t modified by realism. Also the Silenced SMG takes 9 shots instead of 8 because the decimal damage is always rounded down, so it doesn’t do 6.25 damage per shot, it only does 6
i have recently came back to l4d2, i used to play on my dads laptop from 2018 to 2019 and had about 80 hours when i never played it again but i have gotten this new laptop back in january 27 of this year (the laptop i had before i had this one had 4 gb of ram, just by that i dont need to elaborate the rest of the specs) and i asked my father to buy me the game on my steam account a few days after i remembered i could play l4d2 on this laptop, i now have 53.9 hours currently and the only campaign i can solo (yet barely) is dark carnival cause it's easy for some reason but even then i do it with the mutation of last man on earth and not expert but advanced
I think the bugs you encounter are from pluggins. Since I use a lot of quality of life changes (scripts) for the game and play many community maps from the Workshop, I have never encountered a single bug from Realism mode.
Fallout 3 was my first on Xbox 360 and LFD2 was my first exposure to the multiplayer community. I made my first online friends playing LFD2. Before that it was strictly offline PS2 games
1:50 If I may be pedantic: I believe "cr0wnd" is supposed to be a portmanteau of "crone" and "owned", so it should be pronounced with a long "o" sound instead of like "crowned"
I mostly play Expert Realism because it makes common infected an actual threat on PC. Melee + Tier 2 weapons + throwables simply trivialize the horde and make the game too easy when played with a team. The balance between challenge vs fun is just right for experienced players on Expert Realism.
11:35 In l4d the zombies are all still alive, and never died, they are just infected.
Id describe them as drug addicts, in realism they still take too many shots, but it makes more sense when you realize they probaly dont feel a thing.
would be cool if someone made an ultra realistic mode. where weapons are accurate with their real life counterparts, zombies are durable, but not as much as they are normally, and if theres a weapon spawn than only one person can pick it up ((why does 1 spas-12 on the table suddenly transform into 4)) and with less resources overall
i love it when coach farts out 28 spas shotguns with laser sights
Technically, realistically the zombies' numb pain sensation means that they'll drop faster than humans. They will overexert themselves, burning their already rotting bodies' needs and will do anything to get to you, but that gaping suckling wound Coach's M1014 or Nick's AR15 caused while they were rushing ain't going away; they will collapse onto the ground because the nerves are shot and they lost a chunk of their center mass, technically living but no more threatening to you than anyone else. Hell, if anything, bleedouts are of extreme concern to those zombies, considering that a single 50 AE or 5.56 NATO round is enough to tear off their backs, rip their mouths and maim their limbs. Those heavy hits to major arteries (and several other important innards) translate to just how quick they will kick the bucket even if the bullets don't end them.
Remember that L4D2's zombies are alive, and their bodies will expire faster than normal humans because we have biological checks and balances to keep ourselves kicking. The zombie virus taking that out means that, sure, they'll be stronger than humans in the short term, but they'll drop 2 weeks since the first infection at most and three days average.
Oh yes, have I mentioned that humans - and by proxy the zombies - also need food and drinks? While we have no indication that zombies drink or eat leftover foods, we also have no indication that they _do_ eat the flesh of the uninfected or drink from the rivers or large water bodies that can also kill them if they so much as sneeze at them funny. They also seem to vomit alarmingly many times, so dehydration remains an effective zombie killer. It really is a miracle that Bill, Zoey, Francis and Louis even manage to fight a dozen zombies (not counting specials, which should already be deader than dead given their mutations,) much less a thousand on average on their trip to Mercy Hospital, because the Green Flu should, realistically, spreads fast and kills faster.
For weapon balancing, I guess Competitive Gameplay Rebalance mod is the closest one.
@@l.q.a.6279 there are slight indications that the survivors do go find food
for example
coach eating chocolate in the cinematic cutscene
they most likely eat food from stores they go to
which could be pretty uncommon
not too uncommon but still uncommon
@@TurliTheCat also a lot of saferooms have crates of military rations in them, or otherwise a pot of food on a hotplate
In realism, it feels that the deagle is better than melees because it's the only way you're surviving a horde while incapacitated.
On the other hand though, you're less likely to get incapped when using melee weapons. That's my experience at least.
@@randomsomeone7771 Well you do have to get close with melees, and we all know how broken the melee hitreg can be at times.
@@kyle.4590 Well, I can safely say that my aim is shit. Therefore, I am much better with melee weapons.
@@randomsomeone7771 Fair enough.
@@kyle.4590 This is why I only ever use certain melee. The only ones worth using are the fire axe, machete, and chainsaw. Sometimes the bat/guitar can be ok if you got nothing else. Otherwise every other melee kinda sucks ass and is too risky with its donkey hitboxes...especailly the pitchfork and knife.
this entire video feels like an essay someone had to write for a class but they had no idea what to write so they just ended up rambling on forever and ever sticking vaguely to the topic of whatever the prompt was until eventually it just ends
Still got that school energy in me.
@@nascoz3884And you nailed it! 💯
@@nascoz3884make an analysis on L4D🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼
Realism really tests your experience in the game. The positions of the weapons, spawn points for throwables, and the very delicate hearing u should have to spot the specials walking towards u. I love it, but it really gets me at some points
And Precision, Instead of just holding the lmb you have to be precise with every or most of the headshots to conserve ammo
expert realism is really fun with full team of friends. even if you fail you can just laugh it out or make jokes. good times! I also think that's the reason why you don't find public expert realism servers/lobbies easily. random players can make things even worse than bots can and completely ruin experience.
When I play L4D, I always play Advanced Realism, because for me that’s the sweetspot of feeling that all the infected will be a threat but it doesn’t make you feel frustrated. It feels like a true cooperative horror game.
While the normal version feels too easy and arcadish.
I only play Expert with teammates. Because bots well… You know.
Maybe it’s just me because I grew up with COD Zombies, or maybe others do feel that way as well.
honestly yeah. I always felt like the normal campaign felt pretty easy unless it was on expert. ((than it was a little frustrating))
so realism advanced is kind of my favorite way to play
Nah I play expert realism and realism is not hard
I usually will run expert with my brother whenever we hangout smash a couple of beers and give it one shot we always make it to chapter 5 but sometimes the finale is hard with two bots still a fun time tho 😂
The partner bots ai are slow af compared to the enemy ai lol plus the large chunks of health dropping in less than 5 seconds and hoards spawning is ridiculous lol
Expert Realism just has the best feeling though when you master headshotting even with the wonky ass hitboxes the infected have. I dead ass shot 3 magnum shots on a standing still zombie center of chest without crouching and 3 of those bullets didn’t hit but the 4th somehow headshotted…. Yeah….
this kinda makes me wish to see how an actually realistic game mode would be like - without caring about balance, just trying to make everything make as much sense as possible
i know that focusing on realism so much usually ruins games, but as a gamemode that sounds interesting to see
@Chabooey I don't think any campaign takes more than 2 hours to complete even if you're really taking your time exploring, so having hunger for such a small timeframe is a bit excessive
@Chabooey don't forget that your gun can have a malfunction when you fire
Ooh, may I add into the Realism+ proposal?
- Everyone has _higher damage output._ A hunter might incapacitate Zoey faster than normal, but Bill's M4A1 fires 5.56x45mm and those things are deadly.
- Realistic weapons. No more 40-round AK hybrid with pissant rate of fire or a burst firing SCAR-L. Give me an AKM with 30 rounds and 600 rounds per minute and a SCAR that isn't rejected by the monkeys at FN Herstal.
- _Horizontal recoil._ Yes, apparently in the world of L4D, guns only kick up, not sideways.
- Staged reloads. Ellis just drops his magazine and suddenly needs to switch to his fire axe. He should not redo his reload animation after he switches back to his rifle; he should have continued from his supposedly gun with no magazine, load up a fresh one and hit the bolt release.
- _Different reloads._ Yes, in L4D2, only pistols have tactical reloads. Everything else apparently have no tactical reloads, half-empty mags don't exist the moment it leaves the gun, and every survivor has ADHD and has to work the bolt even if there's already one bullet in the chamber. Add new reloads into the mix, let us keep our half-spent magazines, or even let us choose to keep them or drop them to the ground, the latter resulting in quicker reloads at the exchange of all the ammo you tossed away.
- _Magazine management._ Francis, in his reloading mania, suddenly realizes that he pulled so many tactical reloads all he has now is 5 STANAG magazines with 4-5 bullets each. Oops.
@@Pistolintheface don’t forget starting off with no weapons and losing to a 12 feet tall zombie unless you have something that makes fire
Just play no more room in hell
I think the witch being a damage sponge in realism kind of adds to the original fear everyone has... before they learn that shotguns can 1-hit her. I kind of like it, because she is either a nuclear bomb or the weakest zombie in the game, depends if you have a shotgun. But in realism that goes straight out the window, because she'll be rather strong regardless.
On the other hand, if you're like me and my friend, just arm yourself and another player with shotguns and go brrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr on her ass.
I agree.
The one thing in realism is that you don’t wanna get hit by the witch. Because last I knew, getting hit by the witch on realism is immediate death. No matter how much health you have
@@axinhedgelion8417 That's basically the whole point, unless you go brrrrrrrrrrrrr with 2 or 3 shotguns on her. I did that with my friend once and she died before getting startled, but only the wandering witch. The sitting witch will kill you tho lmao
@@ellenhunter5531 You can kill a Sitting Witch, although it's hard for people that aren't experienced enough. You come up behind her, shoot her (try to aim for the head), jump to avoid her first swing (you need to see which of her attack it is, if it is the longer, overhead one then jump later, if it's the quick one then jump as soon as she's startled), aim for the head, and she should die before killing you.
The one nice thing about the Realism Witch is that she cannot just delete doors and actually has to break it down
You can literally recreate the L4D1 Intro Scene with Louis startling the Witch
(though she can still hit you from the other side though lol)
I'd reckon a truly "realistic" realism would be a lot more boring and maybe even tedious. Less zombies, less loot, less hp, no saferooms, etc.
You'd only encounter 10 zombies in Cold Stream because it's in the middle of a forest, Chargers immediately incapacitate after a couple smashes, gunshots summon hordes, Bill has a 40% chance of suffering from a heart attack, melee weapons only take out 1 zombie and have a 5 second cooldown, all that stuff.
Also you can randomly twist your ankle and die
In city level maps there are 100k to millions of zombie because it's densely populated obviously .
Bitch you just made bill an rng game
Nah the Bill part is foul 💀
With the melee yoy could have multiple takedowns cause people can swing weapons in such a way to hit multiple targets at once
Very realistic indeed. It's just like in rl, sometimes anything doesn't make any sense at all, kudos to valve
perfect comment
Speaking of things that don't make sense, the defib is by far the best addition to the game. Both in terms of what it adds gameplay-wise and in pure comedy factor.
My best defib moment was when I used one to revive a teammate who had been dead for 10 min straight. While fully submerged in swamp water. And I'm standing in the water as I electrocute him 🤣
@@carljohan9265 Bro just made Homemade Frankenstein.
5:34 "The AWP? It's an abbreviation for Ass Wiping Pervert" caught me SO fucking off guard holy shit
These "retrospective"- esque type videos are sure a treat to watch bro especially if it's about how wild sh*t can be in l4d2
The game is a classic!
6:49 that's cursed
Charger evolved into Tank
tbh i thought the charger was going to be a variant of the Tank when l4d2 first came out
Ah yes expert realism, the game mode that made me improve my way of playing and a make me love left 4 dead 2, I learned lot from players with +3000 hours and eventually befriended them, mostly adapting to there play style how position yourself, coordination, when to use items and mostly being stuck playing as a duo (mostly because our teammates die constantly) and one thing they left clear to me the more I played was you know your team is good to the point where you don't take stuff seriously and purposely make the game harder for yourself as well as your teammates and to never give up, you always have to keep fighting as long as one survivor is still standing we still have a chance to win.
I like Easy Realism the best, the witch isn't broken and it also makes playing custom maps a lot more forgiving without giving you wallhacks.
I don't think the "Realism" mode is meant to reflect _real_ realism, but _zombie_ realism. It seems to be making the zombies in L4D function like more traditional zombies.
yea witches taking 8 shotgun shells to kill is totally realistic
@@lillyie Bro has shot a witch in real life
@@HaispawnerI sure have, ask your mother’s body
@@jose7518wow so funny
@@Neotrec it’s not a joke, it’s a fact
One of the best l4d2 youtubers cranking content rn, keep it up man!
5:17 my man goes full AVGN on the entire L4D2 arsenal
he even sounds like him for a few of them
couldn't have said It better myself, as a person that has been playing this mode for 800+ hours, you've managed to say everything i ever thought of this mode.
5:59 Fun fact (again):
The Deagle in Left 4 Dead 2 is not actually chambered in .50AE, but rather .44, hence why it has 8 rounds in it magazine instead of 7.
Whitakers shop advertises it as a *".50 Desert Cobra"* in the game itself, so it seems safe to say it's not a .44 and they just gave it a slightly larger magazine for game balance. Just like the 50-60 round Assault Rifles modelled with 30-round magazines, but far harder to spot.
Apparently, the America in L4D did develop an 8-round .50AE variant at some point.
@@vegeta002 It could be something left over from earlier builds they never really bothered to change, and in-game it is called the "Magnum Pistol" as opposed to the "Deagle" or a similar name
The Survivors when spotting and picking up the gun call it "The Magnum" or "Magnum Pistol" as well as other names but not "Deagle" or "Cobra", which means it would make more sense if it was the .44 variant as opposed to the .50 one.
Also, it’s internal name is "pistol_magnum".
@@kyle.4590 I know what the survivors and game files call it, but those aren't the official _in-universe_ names. Canonically, it's called the Desert Cobra in-universe and (at least according to Whitaker's advertisements) is a .50.
static.wikia.nocookie.net/left4dead/images/a/a0/Sign_gunshop_magnum.png/revision/latest?cb=20091119082848
Even if it makes more sense for it to be a .44, the game lore doesn't match.
@@vegeta002 Fair, most of the guns in L4D2 are really just a mix of several similar weapons.
The P220 and Glock 26 seen when using the pistols are a mix of several different variants.
The Assault Rifle seen in even L4D1 is the M16A2, despite being automatic.
The AK47 is actually the AKMN, based off of the AK74 according to some of the devs.
The Hunting Rifle, also seen in L4D1 is the Mini-14 which uses intermediate rifle cartages but despite that deals the same damage as the Military sniper (G3SG/1) which uses a higher caliber.
A lot of things about the firearms don’t make much sense but I guess that’s valve.
Heck, some of this info might not even be correct, what would someone like me know about guns?
Realism is an incredibly fun difficulty option, however if you play expert realism then the biggest threat isn’t any special infected or the tank, but commons because they do 20dmg on hit usually and end up swarming you. Not to mention that no proximity damage multiplier makes auto weapons worse because they don’t stun the infected so you end up going with shotguns, because a meatshot at least staggers them
Im slowly starting to love your channel, its like a space where its mostly people who still play L4D2 to this day and that means you discuss things about the game that only maniacs like us know about.
Also your music choice is awesome, Manhunt and Cry Of Fear soundtracks in the same video is something I didn't expect lol
Has anyone eve told you that you give off some major old school AVGN vibes? Watching him growing up was always the best, and your mannerisms are bringing me back.
I think that the inconsistent health pools in some infected u talk about happens due to Valve using a % of resistance to certain damage type in certain infected, rather than increasing the health pool of infected to fit every weapon damage potential.
You would be right, commons have the same health but have heavily increased damage resistance.
The Witch inherits the Common Infected Damage multiplier which is why you cannot one-shot her to the body in campaign expert.
3:57
The damage is reduce to 0.25 for the witch and commons
3:23 dude poor nick 💀
My friends and I tried playing realism expert for one day, but stopped when we realized 70% of the damage we were taking was friendly fire because we suck. Still had a ton of fun on normal expert mode though
3:24 Perfect cut Scream honestly.
Pd: Never played an Expert Realism Match, but I'm gonna load a game right now.
Honestly expert realism is incredibly difficult but probably the most fun and fulfilling experience I get from Left 4 dead 2. Every other mode and difficulty is just too easy. The zombies taking more damage makes sense to me. They aren’t shambling rotting corpses, they’re like the infected in 28 weeks later filled with rage and a primal desire to chase down and kill all survivors relentlessly. In those movies the infected are constantly flooded with adrenaline and can keep fighting through gunshots and missing limbs because of that adrenaline. Valve took a large amount of inspiration from those movies and it’s my favourite zombie game of all time.
The part with nick dying from picking up the sniper made me die 😂
Maybe you shouldn't have picked up that sniper
That "... 9.5 magnitude earthquake..." cracks me up 😂😂
Bro really went from roasting the game to real deep conversation
When it comes to the witch, I don't know if this is the case, but shotguns in L4D have a special ammo type that ramps up their damage dealt significantly when being used at point blank specifically against the Witch. This is something that is likely disabled in Realism. That combined with the general realism bodyshot damage resistance may be the source of the inconsistencies with her in Realism.
shotguns deal 5x damage to common infected + witches within 100 units; this damage multiplier is disabled in realism
@@nothanks39 Ah, cool, I didn't realize it also applied to commons.
I liked the idea of realism, but what turns me off from it is the limitation on the weapons you can use due to the damage reduction changes, most assault rifles are kinda useless unless you are a god at headshots, sniper rifles could be good if your teammates clear the horde and give you a chance to snipe the special infected (or if you have the magnum or a melee at hand), and shotguns are mostly mandatory to have, otherwise the commons just chew your ammo like it's their everyday meal, it kinda limits your options on what to run due to it.
If you start a Realism game with the game instructor, one of the tips tells you: “Shots to the body does less damage, aim for the head!” or something like that
So it’s intentional (but not as bad as headshots only)
@@kyle.4590 You know how it is with commons tho, their hitboxes are a gamble sometimes, when they are crouched in a vent or something it is impossible to shove them. They can get bugged in some structures and the last thing happens again, you don't want to give them any opportunities for it, that's why I feel like shotguns are the only viable choice for clearing commons, along with magnums.
@@fede4906 Commons are impossible to shove when they are crouch (which is kinda dumb but I guess you have to just get used to it)
Personally I don’t have much of problems with headshots in Realism, which is why I use the Assault Rifle a lot (it’s pretty good at scoring headshots).
But yes the Common Headshot hitbox is a bit wonky and stupid at times.
@@kyle.4590 Fair enough, I just prefer to get rid of them as soon as possible. I mostly have other teammates use other weapons to take care of specials while I clean with the magnum or make the horde follow me to a narrow corner to get rid of them with the shotgun, Hell, sometimes I do a funny and let myself be puked by a boomer and be a walking pipe bomb if I have a good spot to kill them.
Assault rifles are still fine for realism. You just need to be smarter about how you use them. They're still good for taking down specials (which is what your main weapon is really for).
You mostly kill common with your sidearm. Melee or magnum.
5:45 Missed opportunity to say, "Dishonourably Discharged Military Rifle."
For someone who was actually planning on getting the expert realism achievement this week, this video was super helpful and its about to be some bullll for me real soon.
I honestly like how commons take 3 shots shots from a sniper to kill instead of one. It incentivizes headshots and weapon diversity, plus the snipers are still the most effective weapon when it comes to killing specials. Realism became my favorite game mode after so many hours, because I have anger issues and don’t play versus. It has a small community, but at least it exist (unlike scavenge). Usually every time I play, I usually run into the same people who also enjoy the game mode.
I can't go back to normal mode because it just becomes a game of grabbing a sniper and using that the entire run for every single map. Boring.
Realism I'm finding some t1 weapons to actually be superior in some scenarios. That's interesting
Fair but I don't like it as snipers just are completely outclassed by other weapon types in the mode but hey, snipers are amazing outside of realism.
Fun Fact: Disabled Rescue Closets was actually a feature in earlier in-dev builds of L4D1, until the devs realised that waiting 10-15 minutes for the map to end just to respawn was not a good idea and they made rescue closets.
Since L4D2 has defibs it’s not as bad but Realism was designed for Experienced Teams putting their cooperation skills to work, so someone that died would be fine with waiting until the map ends (or until everyone wipes).
00:27 i love how he makes a light flickering effect, like realism mode is the true horror side of l4d2 (which it is)
getting the STILL SOMETHING TO PROVE achivment was like a asylum.. loosing my mind
I low key want a game mode for L4D2 that has No More Room in Hell mechanics
The mention of custom campaigns throughout the video makes reminds me of something I've always wondered. Why do some public servers for custom campaigns force players to play Expert Realism and punish them for wanting to play lower? Not every custom handles the kind of factors you list at 8:50 in a way that's fun (some I've played are bad about it even on lower difficulties) and it can be an annoyance to people who just want to try it out first. Of course you could always just play it solo first or try to host locally for friends but there's bound to be somebody out there with a unique set of inconveniences
edit: to be clear i dont dislike expert or realism or both, ive had some fun times playing expert and can see why people enjoy the high difficulty
The servers you're talking about (Last Regret is the name I think) do that because they're meant to be servers that have extra difficulty. The name in the steam group server browser even says "Beyond Expert Realism"
pro tip: in realism the best way to handle the witch is to have someone shoot the witch and then down the person via friendly fire so the witch can't kill them
Headshot with a sniper will stumble her then everyone shoots her is my usual method works 99% of time as long as no one is ass
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I almost exclusively play expert realism, but even I feel like I need a break from it now and then lol. My main issue with it is just the amount of damage weapons do in it, that sometimes I go back to play regular expert and the number of viable gun options makes it so refreshing. It's almost as if the developers intended you not to use the same 3 guns the entire game lol
People now ONLY use fucking deagle 24/7 i legit saw guys with 90%+ deagle weapon usage stats! They will steal weapons from you just to carry it on the back and never use it. And they also same people that will use that buggy spots to sit in where enemy cant get to them.
I always wondering if anyone else knows about the common infected die immediately when you shoot them in the legs, cause they never had a crawling animation on them. It’s been a while since I played Realism, so I don’t know if shooting the legs is viable or not.
its viable but shooting off the leg is way harder then headshot.
For the damage values each body part has a percent modifier to how much damage it takes, like in counter strike. In regular campaign I believe its all set to 100% with the head being 150% or 200%, but in realism the body is set to 50% so they take half damage to the body, and I'm sure the witch head value was lowered as well to prevent crowning. That's why the health values are the same but the zombies are tankier.
You are correct about the damage modifiers, but not on the numbers.
Here are what the actual values are:
Easy - x2
Normal - x1
Advanced - x0.75
Expert/Realism Easy - x0.5
Realism Normal - x0.37
Realism Advanced/Expert - x0.25
These values are also used for the Witch, but the main reason she tanks buckshot to the face is because shotguns don’t have their x5 close-range damage multiplier from campaign mode. (Only applies to commons and the witch)
Headshots always instantly kill commons and deal x4 damage to Special Infected, against the Witch it deals x1 damage and it is non-existent on the Tank.
@@kyle.4590 Yeah I was just rough guessing the numbers from my experience playing the game, thank you for the added clarification!
@@theeninja11 I have no problem helping others!
I like how you putted Manhunt music in the intro.
loving this series 🔥🔥
this series gives me AVGN “You Know What’s Bullshit?” series. LOVE IT
Bro you're videos are really good, without talking about the fire editing. You deserve much more views and subscribes. Keep it this way chief !
From France.
The tank is kind of BS.
In the first game, he has aimbot.
In the sequel, he can read your keyboard.
It's possible to dodge his rock, you just have to know how to manipulate him at the right time.
All that is missing is for him to punch then immidietly throw a rock.
Realism is left 4 deads version of doom eternals ultra nightmare mode. I enjoy the challenge it brings but I also put it 4-6 hours for sessions when I play l4d. I would love to see an actual realism mode, where zombies die faster but so so you as well as other resources being stripped. Maybe have the mode use options based on how many weeks into the green flu epidemic. So like 7 days in is super tough infected but 28 days they are as fragile as paper. Idk just spitballing rn
The Doug Dimmadome hat on Nick was the greatest thing in this vid
Ikr. I beat every campaign on realism expert with random lobbys and it took me over a week. It took me a whole DAY to get though dark carnival.
I mostly play on Advanced difficulty with my friends and when playing by myself.
While I agree that normal becomes too easy Overtime. Advanced always gives me a nice challenge and imo sets a more appropriate tone for the games story.
This is a zombie apocalypse, and the zombies aren't just meat for your bullets, they are legitimate threats to you and whoever you're playing with.
That being said, I don't play Expert because it's bullshit, at least to me anyway, punches hurt, but 5-10 punches is not gonna knock someone out most of the time, unless it's the Tank, his hands are bigger than my monitor.
Realism does add a nice challenge for me, but thats only because it forces you to play better and be 200% aware of your surroundings.
With the friends I play with, and the team we are? realism would basically be paying rent for 4 people where only one of them actually works a job, and gets paid minimum wage.
We're all idiots, and that imo adds a realistic factor into the game, since no human is incapable of making stupid decisions, a human can think for themselves or for others. And as stupid as my friends and I can be, we've consistently proven we're more reliable than the bots.
So that's why I don't play Expert, or realism, because with human teammates on Advanced the game already feels realistic enough for a zombie apocalypse.
Sorry for the wall of text btw
yes i agree that i do all the work while you guys just shoot at cars and set me on fire
You got us all killed by looking for a thumper in the blood harvest finale. While I always tell you when I'm reloading and when a special infected is around
@@apairofhands3464 skill issue
Had they balanced the zombies and weapons better, maybe Realism wouldn't be the mess it is now. The weapons could use special tuning for each individual function, same for the special infected: a Charger may be able to take more hits in realism than say a Spitter due to physical appearance* and size. A Witch could be deadly but frail in HP but not too frail as to be laughable, the Tank can be... well, a tank-- and be the real highlight of the challenge in realism with the zombies. The common should realistically be the most frail and weak individually but excel in greater numbers-- like an actual horde... It feels like they just wanted to make a "harder Expert" difficulty but made a confused, frustrating mess.
edit: wording
That’s because Realism wasn’t balanced towards simulating real life, but towards Proper high-level Teamwork.
@@kyle.4590 They should just flip the game around: Survivors die from about anything, whereas zombies are true bullet sponges.
That would make it realistic. Not the ridiculous battle of attrition this game has always been
Realism was designed to make ppl do teamwork...
And is good as it is
I play Expert Realism exclusively, other than PvP modes. I love it because it rewards patience, situational awareness, good positioning and team cohesion. No single enemy can be treated as a trivial threat, and if you're not on the ball, you will get slapped to death in short order by commons.
The Mac-10 is my favorite weapon, due to its spread it's paradoxically easier to land headshots consistently - just don't crouch unless at long range (in which case, pistols are better anyway), aim at head height and tap away firing short bursts.
The Magnum is bread-and-butter, and almost trivializes the difficulty as long as you're taking your time and checking your corners - and you turn into a sentry turret when downed. Also makes it very easy to protect teammates in a pinch - just don't try if you're not confident in your aim, because it will down teammates in 1, 2 or 3 shots depending on their HP.
The SG552 is basically a direct upgrade to the Mac-10, with good spread recovery and that paradoxical high-ish base-spread making it easier to hit heads - with the added benefit of high single-shot, crouched accuracy and a scope for you to use at distance and plink heads off unaware infected. Just get a better skin for it (and all the CSS weapons) cause the default one is ugly - I like "SG552 animated"
The M60 is basically a magnum with extended mag - same with Exp/Inc rounds on any SMG/AR, as long as you're hitting center-mass and ping is on your side. Take single-shots and make them count. If you already have a magnum, only switch to it if in danger of being overwhelmed. Also Exp's ability to stumble specials or splash them from around corners becomes a godsend.
Dual pistols are headshot machines, you just gotta find the knack to aiming them. The pistols are the worst secondaries, but they're not terrible. If you have a mouse macro set up, or put fire on mousewheel or simply have a really fast mouse1 finger, the duals are basically a back-up SMG in your pocket.
The auto-shotties are what many people purport as the best weapons for the mode, since they're really effective at horde-clear - if you're unloading buckshot beyond point-blank range, chances are at least one of those pellets is going to headshot, whilst other targets will be stumbled and severely damaged. They're really good at creating breathing room, but I don't like them much because of the bullet-by-bullet reload.
The pump-shotties are basically the poor-man's magnum, able to one-shot commons at close range but are otherwise pretty inefficient. Still really fun to use though.
The snipers - the MSG-90 is pretty decent as long as you can constantly pick heads, it has the accuracy stats to do so - and in a pinch, body shots can be plenty viable.
The M16 is probably the best all-rounder, while the AK is close behind, but my preference is the M16 due to spread/recovery/movement stats. AK's definitely better for horde-clear because of the higher torso damage, but you lose too much in precision to make consistent headshots in lower-intensity fights
I always found shotguns to be my go-to when playing realism. I find the common infected to be a bigger threat than anything else in expert realism
@@nascoz3884 The SCAR rifle is the most accurate Assault rifle out of the three due to it's three round burst.
This honestly makes me wanna make a script called “Actual Realism” where;
Damage, and Magazine capacities of weapons reflect their real life counterparts.
Common infected aren’t tanky.
Survivors can’t be revived through any means.
All of the hud is gone.
The special infected are weaker and headshots insta kill some.
The witch would die from any shotgun to the head, or two to the torso.
Weapon pickups only give one weapon. And ammo piles have limited use.
I think it could work for people wanting a challenge that somewhat seems fair.
you really are my favorite l4d content creator fr
I only ever do expert realism, it makes you a much better player. You learn to aim for the head, to stand back, and take it slowly and to take advantage of doors and exploding tanks etc. Always have a molotov for the tank ready, if you can, use a shotgun until you can find an AK47, if you get a sniper, take the time to take out all the infected you can see in your sight, it'll make it a lot easier
7:54 how do you have 4 allies?
I want a zombie game so realistic that if u die in-game, you also die irl
"Won't last for a minute"
"60 Seconds"
6:13 dude, it's payday 2's Specialized Killing (15-30% damage increase for a suppressed weapon), don't worry about it, it got kicked out of the game for being a straight no brainer to pick up, now left 4 dead realism gives you Specialized Killing as it's new home, you welcome.
I love these headphones I heard him say, “Hold up, I’m not done talking!”
I subbed when you showed Francis team killing on expert
They ruin the difficulty for me by a whole lot
This is the first video I ever saw on your channel and this shit funny I'm subscribed now
The only realistic thing about this gamemode is me running from literally any problem i encounter. I think that's pretty close to real life
perfect comment #2
Yo the video so good I had to check on you when you did the ending gag😂
MP5 “Me poop 5 times” 💀
12:22 Is that the Cry of Fear OST?
I just finished unlocking most of the stuff in the game, that includes Simon's Book which requires an S rank in Nightmare mode.
For anyone wondering about the song name its "Cry of Fear Soundtrack: Brandon".
Edit: Just realized I'm a dumbass and the music used is listed in the description.
I just got too excited. After rediscovering CoF (watched the big name TH-camrs play it in around 2012 when I was a kid), its one of my favorite games ever, definitely the best Free game out there. Brandon is also one of the best music tracks in the game.
disabling HUD except for your own health bar would be so cool, requiring you to keep tabs on how your team looks or if they are asking for meds…THATS realism
There was a scraped official mutation called “Ultra-Realism” and it turned off all hud elements.
It was probably scraped though because It didn’t really do enough to change the gameplay. (and I don’t think scavenge finale gas cans were effected either)
Use mods, is what I do...
Oh and unbind tab
Love seeing L4D content in the year 2022
A few things I've learned from my Left 4 Dead 2's "Last Man on Earth in Expert difficulty runs...
The Special Infected are *RELENTLESS AND REMORSELESS.*
The least dangerous Special Infected is the Spitter and she can be easily be one shotted with a Tier 2 shotgun. But the ones that are really annoying are the Jockey, Smoker and Charger - unless you're skilled enough without hacks n stuff, then you have no problem but the most annoying Special Infected you need to watch out for is the Hunter. Once he pounces you and gets you to colorblind mode, *he stands on you as you get up and CLAWS you meaning you're dead!*
Loved the video, the humor was really hitting the spot.❤️.
Conclusion
Go for the heads
Is all about the Heads
It makes sense in some zombie movies,if the head is destroyed,the zombie is dead.
Or just find a shotgun,deagle and clean up the areas before starting the events.
Or simply find machete or a nightstick and clear the horders by yourself.
Or just camp on top of a ladder and check the surrounding(from unknow reason the commons simply dies if u step on their heads).
The best example been the lighthouse in The Last Stand campaign.
This gamemode is sometimes wierd in terms of "realistic".
expert-where friendly-fire deals more damage than zombies :))
6:06 same 😔
The health of the infected isn’t increased, the damage multiplier with where you shoot is affected. Infected can have the damage that weapons do change based on where they’re hit. For example, the charger takes 2 hits to die from a melee, but 1 if the head is hit. It takes 5 hits to kill smokers if their legs are hit with melee weapons, but 1 if any other part of their body is hit. So basically the infected don’t gain bonus HP, just that bullets that aren’t headshots have their damage reduced. Shotguns still one shot because they still do around 250 damage, not including the 5x multiplier when at close range against common infected. On realism, body shots always do lower damage (.5x on easy, .375x on normal, and .25x for hard and expert) so multiplying 20x their max health by .25 isn’t gonna be lower than their max health. As for witch crowning, the shotguns do less damage on a witch. Witches usually take 5x the damage from shotguns at point blank, allowing any shotgun to crown her, except on realism, which removes the damage bonus, requiring you to hit 4 headshots (making crowning only possible with an auto) to kill her.
Basically:
Body shots do less damage against commons and witches, but headshots, m60 bullets, explosive rounds, melees, and the magnum still kill commons instantly, regardless of gamemode and difficulty. Special infected are still as easy as ever to kill, they aren’t modified by realism.
Also the Silenced SMG takes 9 shots instead of 8 because the decimal damage is always rounded down, so it doesn’t do 6.25 damage per shot, it only does 6
This was so funny. Keep it up lmao
Your delivery in this gives me big early AVGN vibes and I love it
Loving this nonsense series keep it up 👍❤️ I want to see all sorts of nonsense you can find in this game 😂
i have recently came back to l4d2, i used to play on my dads laptop from 2018 to 2019 and had about 80 hours when i never played it again but i have gotten this new laptop back in january 27 of this year (the laptop i had before i had this one had 4 gb of ram, just by that i dont need to elaborate the rest of the specs) and i asked my father to buy me the game on my steam account a few days after i remembered i could play l4d2 on this laptop, i now have 53.9 hours currently and the only campaign i can solo (yet barely) is dark carnival cause it's easy for some reason but even then i do it with the mutation of last man on earth and not expert but advanced
I think the bugs you encounter are from pluggins.
Since I use a lot of quality of life changes (scripts) for the game and play many community maps from the Workshop, I have never encountered a single bug from Realism mode.
In my playthroughs, the chainsaw can kill the witch very quickly when you creep up behind her
Fallout 3 was my first on Xbox 360 and LFD2 was my first exposure to the multiplayer community. I made my first online friends playing LFD2. Before that it was strictly offline PS2 games
Great video one of my favorite childhood games.
Realism scares me
LMAOOO im dying
1:50 If I may be pedantic: I believe "cr0wnd" is supposed to be a portmanteau of "crone" and "owned", so it should be pronounced with a long "o" sound instead of like "crowned"
Nah you right
🍣*grabs food, likes vid, then watches le amazing video*
the rubbing hands people did it
1:22 How'd the L4D2 survivors make a voicelines for L4D1 survivors that died? Is it a mod?
Your editing is absolutely hilarious
You’re my favourite most sane l4d2 player
Damn, this man roasted every mentioned thing until perfection. Have my like, sir.
,, Everybody grab a we-AHHHH" got me dying 💀
Finally king content from the king
3:07 i just noticed that the Tank has a tattoo
I think this video deserves 1 million views. It was so well done, especially with with the philosophy at the end 🙏
I mostly play Expert Realism because it makes common infected an actual threat on PC. Melee + Tier 2 weapons + throwables simply trivialize the horde and make the game too easy when played with a team. The balance between challenge vs fun is just right for experienced players on Expert Realism.
Damn I missed this one, but yet another banger of a video man! Classic NasCoz dub.
I learned how to melee a witch in expert realism just so i can spend 3 hours dying at the 3rd map of dark carnival for the real deal achievement