drinking in Manchester's most run down town!

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  • @RobMcGuirk
    @RobMcGuirk 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +294

    How Oasis can justify standing tickets for 450 quid and it looks like half of Manchester cant afford a loaf of bread. World is fcuked.

    • @UmbertoDavidPanda
      @UmbertoDavidPanda 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +29

      Yea but it is what it is. Anyway, best crack on

    • @greg2502
      @greg2502 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      It's a free market. Oasis can justify selling tickets for 450 quid if people buy them. Perhaps it's just you who are fcuked

    • @robbo2099
      @robbo2099 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      People pay though so much have money

    • @Rusty-Washer
      @Rusty-Washer 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      @@UmbertoDavidPandayou forgot to say ‘tbf’

    • @ryanboothroyd7037
      @ryanboothroyd7037 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@UmbertoDavidPanda😂😂😂

  • @stevo728822
    @stevo728822 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +408

    If these pubs are surviving on drinkers in their 60's and smokers, they aren't going to survive this decade. Your videos are a historical account of a disappearing world.

    • @Northumberlandmag
      @Northumberlandmag 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +51

      Spot on !
      The decline in our pubs is mirroring the gradual decline of the country

    • @koilamaoh4238
      @koilamaoh4238 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +26

      @@Northumberlandmag That makes no sense.. Most younger people don't drink/smoke anymore; the same in the US, bars arent as common as they used to be. The decline of the country is due to other issues.. UK "peaked" in capitalism.. Just as the US, and other countries that use the same model.. Now once you peak... it falls.

    • @TheBenchPressMan
      @TheBenchPressMan 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

      @@Northumberlandmagit’s not gradual now, it’s terminal and acute

    • @damien1351
      @damien1351 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +32

      Our population is increasing due to immigration. The problem for the pub industry is thst most of these immigrants don't drink.

    • @timmanc
      @timmanc 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      Spot on, I mentioned this on another recent honest places vid. These are like time capsule videos, whatever your thoughts on the reasoning the reality is the traditional British pub is nearly finished and I don’t see any way back. Only those with a reliance on their food offerings will survive.

  • @jenstone9308
    @jenstone9308 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +120

    I'll never not find it entertaining when you say 'let's get in here and see what's kicking off' and you walk in to 2 old men sitting at the bar. 😅 Love it.

    • @honestplaces
      @honestplaces  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +21

      one day and old geezer will hit me....then i'll stop making vids!

    • @jenstone9308
      @jenstone9308 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      @@honestplaces 🤣🤣🤣 I will be eating my words then! 🤣 Always enjoy your videos 👍

    • @honestplaces
      @honestplaces  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      @@jenstone9308 🤣🤣 cheers

    • @stevemcgowen
      @stevemcgowen 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      I had trouble understanding the lady, but I think she said it’s an old man pub.

    • @shearer905
      @shearer905 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      ​@@honestplaces It is what it is pal😂

  • @johnatkinson3174
    @johnatkinson3174 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +100

    Remember working early doors as a youngster. It’s the old fellas that get you. Broken, sat alone, with only a pint for company. I used to try and imagine what their story was. Maybe they were happy just to get out the house for a few hours and a bit of peace and quiet. Or maybe there was no one to go back to now. Who knows. I’d always try and strike up a conversation though, some of the most interesting people I met whilst working behind the bar - got a lot more sense out of them than the younger crowd later on. Probably better places they could have been, but it’s hard to change the habits of a life time. At least they had somewhere to go.

    • @honestplaces
      @honestplaces  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

      Same story today....always have no phone on their own. Deffo to get out the house and hopefully bump into old pals

    • @Crosshatch1212
      @Crosshatch1212 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      And they grew up in a country where nothing was handed to you .and even when it started most where 2 pence over on there war pension to get help .like,y mum n dad both done the whole war start to finish .

    • @1gerard47
      @1gerard47 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Sad.

    • @Gentleman_uk
      @Gentleman_uk 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      rip loads of my them

    • @blade_warrior_blue
      @blade_warrior_blue 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      That's how I could have ended up if not for the fact I don't smoke or drink. Which means I'm stuck at home by myself and I'm not even that old yet. I just turned 40 and for some reason, don't ask me how but my face has hardly changed in 20 years so people still think I'm some snot nosed kid when I'm older than them and living with a crippling injury that ruined my life and left me in excruciating pain all day every day. Actually being stuck in a pub sounds awful. When your back is hurt, you realize how painfully uncomfortable most chair are. Bar stools look like torture devices to me.

  • @AJM-timecop
    @AJM-timecop 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

    As someone brought up in Manchester, yes, it's definitely a bit rough but you can't beat the people. Very friendly bunch.

    • @CharlesBabbageTheThird
      @CharlesBabbageTheThird 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Ashton is like everywhere else it depends on which part you are in.
      The centre is run down and needs work

  • @stevo728822
    @stevo728822 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +35

    3:32 That's a lovely bit of tile work on the Angel Hotel.

  • @mikecooke2357
    @mikecooke2357 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +56

    Ashton in the 80s and 90s was THE place to go . Every pub was banging Thursday to Sunday, 8 night clubs , you could go out 3 nights on pub crawls and not go in the same pubs !! Top memories.

    • @robertloader9826
      @robertloader9826 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Ashton has never been the place to go. Ever. Utterly depressing shite hovel.

    • @karenheyes
      @karenheyes 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Agreed... I felt so mad watching this vblog putting Ashton down. So lucky to live in the era when it was thriving. Great tmes. Xx

    • @texasoilfields
      @texasoilfields 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      England forgot how to procreate, and now there's no more youth. Very sad.

    • @malekoftheseraphim5523
      @malekoftheseraphim5523 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Ashton was a great night out up until the mid 00's i'd say. Then Stalybridge and Oldham became more popular, and Ashton was forgotten, a real shame.

    • @yutehube4468
      @yutehube4468 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      The one way system pub crawl was better than anything. It was 25+ years ago and I remember like it was yesterday, despite being plastered at the time!

  • @TheMancMod01
    @TheMancMod01 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +92

    I've lived in Ashton all my life (50 yrs) it used to be a great place to shop, eat, drink, with plenty going on. Fast forward to today, the market is a shambles, and the pubs and clubs are all closed, no decent restaurants, shops shut. It's a complete dump.

    • @markwilson9061
      @markwilson9061 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      I worked in Sparx and Heroes way back when it was the place to be; I think that was when it peaked.

    • @TheMancMod01
      @TheMancMod01 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      @@markwilson9061 i got smashed in there a few times back in the 90s. I agree that was the peak of Ashton, then even went to stalyvagas.

    • @peterkelly8357
      @peterkelly8357 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      Yes, I remember my parents taking me there for a day out (from Stockport)

    • @dannymcdermott5913
      @dannymcdermott5913 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Only decent restaurant is Lily's.

    • @chrisarmitage7529
      @chrisarmitage7529 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Used to be a crackin night out in Ashton it's a shame it's gone downhill, got some good memories of the place

  • @jackhodgkinsontv2308
    @jackhodgkinsontv2308 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +17

    Ahhh Ashton, worked around there for 6 years now and believe me a pint after work their is never a dull moment just friendly staff and down to earth people.

  • @GorlWorldComments
    @GorlWorldComments 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +24

    my home town, the people here are really kind, salt of the earth

  • @florianadolf2256
    @florianadolf2256 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +26

    Man, ... I love England. So sorry things are breaking down so fast. Things here on the mainland don't look too cosy either. Writing these lines from Germany, structures are breaking down fast, too. Stay strong over there

    • @titus9694
      @titus9694 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

      This is what defines the West currently, and its gonna be a lot worse.

  • @AnonAnonAnon
    @AnonAnonAnon 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +25

    Down the road is Openshaw. Before 1979, Openshaw had a lot of heavy industries dotted around, steelworks etc. A lot of jobs, good money, and pubs galore. These industries employed men and women from all over East Manchester including Ashton/Tameside. The 1979 general election seen the Thatcher government come to power and that's when the likes of Openshaw, Audenshaw, Gorton, Ashton etc were turned upside down. The country went into a recession, mass redundancies, industries closed down and moved abroad, and unemployment went up. Hardly any money was invested in East Manchester. Towns were effectively abandoned with little money invested in them. Those streets and towns were once great communities, everyone knew everyone else. People moved away for work, shops and pubs closed and that downward spiral continues even today.

    • @adwilliams134
      @adwilliams134 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      The country was already in recession with rising unemployment when Thatcher won. Labour and the unions had reduced the country to beggars that needed an IMF bail ouit.

    • @Art0691p
      @Art0691p หลายเดือนก่อน

      The Tory party are effectively a trade union for the wealthiest 1%. Thatcher put the boot in.

    • @mamvcivm
      @mamvcivm 26 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Yep. Thatcher's government destroyed the manufacturing industries and replaced em with service industries. Problem there is most manufacturing was in the north and most of the service industries are on the South East. The rest of the country has been left to rot.

    • @kenon6968
      @kenon6968 25 วันที่ผ่านมา

      The problems of industrial decline go back way before Thatcher's election

    • @jamesbaker-fu2zi
      @jamesbaker-fu2zi 17 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Couldn't of said it better I'm 34 but can remember the back end of what you was saying,gone to pot now tho hasn't it mate

  • @davidbeeson9408
    @davidbeeson9408 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +39

    I was born in Ashton. What a shit hole. Used to be THE place to go on a Weekend in the 90s & that. Sad demise. Another great video mate, nice one.

    • @honestplaces
      @honestplaces  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Yeh it deffo needs somet...dunno what, seems beyond. Cheers pal!

    • @diskopartizan0850
      @diskopartizan0850 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Was in FHMs top night's out at one point

    • @JDizzlekl3yh
      @JDizzlekl3yh 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Was epic in the 90’s when I was at college

    • @zootsoot2006
      @zootsoot2006 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      The whole of the UK is a shit hole. Get out and explore the world.

  • @stevemcgowen
    @stevemcgowen 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +127

    It looks like Eastern Europe before Eastern Europe joined the EU, got fixed up and became prosperous.

    • @robertwaldronpalmer9572
      @robertwaldronpalmer9572 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      pffffft haha

    • @SuperCityMCFC
      @SuperCityMCFC 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +24

      It looks like the UK after it joined the EU

    • @stevemcgowen
      @stevemcgowen 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +19

      @@SuperCityMCFC Odd how the Uk has been rapidly been deteriorating since Brexit...

    • @ifonly2448
      @ifonly2448 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Most of the people living that side of Ashton are Eastern European.

    • @stevemcgowen
      @stevemcgowen 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      @@ifonly2448does ‘most’ mean something different in the Uk than the rest of the world? Official demographics show 80% are native born.

  • @charliebere6022
    @charliebere6022 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +40

    It’s a terrible indictment of our system of government . Shame on all in power and office

  • @anthonyfoley68
    @anthonyfoley68 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Thanks for the tour, brings back loads of memories, I’m 60 now but me and my wife used to go out drinking around Ashton and StalyVagas in our Teens / Twenties. Both had a great vibe at the weekends. It’s a shame now for these little towns, not many people have the spare money to go out drinking regularly. It’s a pity the Spread Eagle is no longer around!!

  • @theglassman3583
    @theglassman3583 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    As someone who enjoys a bit of urban exploration, i enjoy seeing the decaying buildings, there is beauty in decay, another great video.😎

    • @1gerard47
      @1gerard47 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      No beauty in decay,looks third world thanks labour and tory.

    • @titteryenot4524
      @titteryenot4524 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      To be fair, m8, I like a bit of shabby-chic myself. However, this is just shabby.

    • @DanielDavies32
      @DanielDavies32 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      i live down the road in stockport which feels a bit fresher getting the bus to ashton always felt like arriving to another world from fifty years ago haha 😂 everything just older and ruffer

  • @Billyzgstar
    @Billyzgstar 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

    You missed some big pubs like the Ash Tree Weatherspoons , The Old Fire Station and the Bowling Green they were near the market.

  • @adzy166
    @adzy166 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +47

    The Star - three quid a pint and the bloke by the bar said it’s a decent pint here, classic

    • @honestplaces
      @honestplaces  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

      Pint was angin 🤣

    • @thesleepstate
      @thesleepstate 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@honestplaces Not a pub drinker and I mean the pour varies but isn't one keg of Guinness same any any other ? Can you explain how it's 'anging?

    • @jayd1974
      @jayd1974 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      @@thesleepstateGuinness is way better over here in Ireland I live in Castlebar County Mayo but originally from Stretford Manchester it depends if the pipes are cleaned properly and at least weekly

    • @ronanpeter
      @ronanpeter 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      The Star looked grimmmmm

    • @neilaspin008
      @neilaspin008 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      @@ronanpeter - The Star is grimmmmm! Everything down that end of town is. It's not much better at the other end in all honesty.

  • @Amathusukx
    @Amathusukx 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +38

    It's turned into a baron shit hole for the same reason Oldham and Rochdale have, a town is only as graceful as the people who feed its heart.

    • @IambiguousSegment
      @IambiguousSegment 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      barren*

    • @iesroo
      @iesroo 29 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Immigration

    • @Amathusukx
      @Amathusukx 29 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@IambiguousSegment I think a predictive text typo is very low on this issue

    • @edmundmcgrath213
      @edmundmcgrath213 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@IambiguousSegment Trump?

    • @IambiguousSegment
      @IambiguousSegment 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@edmundmcgrath213 that would be Barron

  • @catbuilder5474
    @catbuilder5474 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +17

    The green tiling on pub's is nice.

    • @Gaz12345
      @Gaz12345 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      True classic pub architecture 👍

    • @maximogarcia7496
      @maximogarcia7496 22 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      It's easy to clean and it shines when you give a good wipe

  • @chaffahatter1948
    @chaffahatter1948 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +21

    I used to meet my cousin in the Ashton Hotel. Walk to the Cavern, on to Ye old Vaults, across to Pointers. A pint in Chesters, one in Yates's. If I fancied a bit of a brawl, pop in the Queens. Last orders in the feathers. Nightclub was Shapes on George St, you went downstairs or Blues club for Bants.

    • @honestplaces
      @honestplaces  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      Sound like a right session 🤣

    • @slabking2469
      @slabking2469 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Sounds rhyt

    • @1gerard47
      @1gerard47 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      ​@@honestplacesthose were the days of olde,give it time no pubs forced on the brits to accommodate the 'religion of peace.

    • @chrisarmitage7529
      @chrisarmitage7529 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@chaffahatter1948 top comment your spot on in the Queens for a pint and a fight

    • @iaincrawford5595
      @iaincrawford5595 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      My Ma and Stepdad were the licensees of Ye Olde Vaults between 1982 and 1984. Ashton was like the land that time forgot but at least back then there were scores of lively pubs still open and the clubs in Staly Vegas were alright...

  • @Gnew2082
    @Gnew2082 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    I like these vids and I don’t know why. Nice to see you around greater Manchester area I guess….!I left a similar town not far from there about 22 years ago and I see streets n pubs like this and I miss it in a way.

  • @andrewgreenwood2884
    @andrewgreenwood2884 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    New order blasting out in The Theatre Tavern. Love it. Time as definitely stood still in Aston

  • @mrraccoon6264
    @mrraccoon6264 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +41

    Beau Geste Bird…..Bangin 💥💥💥💥💥

    • @honestplaces
      @honestplaces  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      👀👀

    • @adzy166
      @adzy166 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      She was quality.

    • @dazblue5515
      @dazblue5515 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Definitely 👌

    • @StopAgenda21
      @StopAgenda21 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      And pours a decent Guinness too, she's a keeper

    • @1gerard47
      @1gerard47 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Pronounced JEST.

  • @darrenfarrell-bn2cb
    @darrenfarrell-bn2cb 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +17

    Believe it or not the Locals are Really nice Down to earth People there is a Good Community Backround There.

    • @honestplaces
      @honestplaces  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      folk seemed alright

    • @darrenfarrell-bn2cb
      @darrenfarrell-bn2cb 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      @@honestplaces
      Yes , All inner Salford is The Same
      There’s Community there just Strangers or outsiders can’t see it .
      Thanks for the Video mate.

    • @1gerard47
      @1gerard47 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Let down by both labour and tory.

    • @1gerard47
      @1gerard47 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Tetleys I thought that was tea 😂

  • @John-cn9bq
    @John-cn9bq 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +43

    The feathers near Manchester, any sign of Beverly macca, if u know u know

    • @honestplaces
      @honestplaces  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Who is that? 🤣

    • @John-cn9bq
      @John-cn9bq 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      @@honestplaces You ever watch the royal family lad?

    • @pooooornopigeon
      @pooooornopigeon 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      ​@@honestplaces The Royle Family.

    • @adzy166
      @adzy166 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

      What did you av for your tea, Dave?

    • @pooooornopigeon
      @pooooornopigeon 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@adzy166 Errrrrm fish fingers......

  • @elgordineo
    @elgordineo 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +43

    The feathers, I think that’s where Jim Royal and Dave were locals

    • @honestplaces
      @honestplaces  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Wish i went now 😭

    • @tangarian007
      @tangarian007 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

      Beverly Macca still there? 😮

    • @carlleedham6256
      @carlleedham6256 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@elgordineo he used to go in there for an eartha kitt

    • @Strizap_G
      @Strizap_G 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Blackie Gray and Roy Races local

    • @andybooth8261
      @andybooth8261 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I think we all know what it is. Great content as always. Try doing a Stockport one

  • @oddities-whatnot
    @oddities-whatnot 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

    Cant believe how much Ashton has gone downhill since I used to drink round there occasionally in the early 90s. The shopping centre a shadow of what it once was. Used to be busy when I delivered round there from about 2006 to 2012. Sad decline.

    • @honestplaces
      @honestplaces  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Mad init.....looks like it's just been left

    • @cosmicbaggy9637
      @cosmicbaggy9637 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Sunday night in Ashton in the late 90s was booming...

    • @oddities-whatnot
      @oddities-whatnot 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@cosmicbaggy9637 didnt they used to call it mini Blackpool with all the bars and clubs next to each other. Good times.

  • @carlleedham6256
    @carlleedham6256 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +180

    It is what it is

    • @honestplaces
      @honestplaces  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +27

      100%

    • @Jonnyturboable
      @Jonnyturboable 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Exactly mate.

    • @tomderby2812
      @tomderby2812 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

      See what's kickin' off

    • @adambrooks6580
      @adambrooks6580 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      Till it isnt

    • @wii7876
      @wii7876 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +27

      Literally everything on earth is what it is...its the most pointless brain dead saying in history 😂

  • @andysutils
    @andysutils 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    I live 5 minutes away from Ashton. Used to be a great night out in the 90s. Loose moose. Yuppies, Pitt n nelson, tricky Dickie's, hero's. Loveshack.
    Now it's just scab city.

  • @GeteP
    @GeteP 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Hi mate! I used to watch a band called The Method at The Wychwood every other Wednesday.
    Also The Globe and The King Billy were good pubs. My mam lived in Egginbotham Crescent when she was younger. Miss you, mam.❤.
    Good video once again brother. Pete 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿

    • @danboid
      @danboid 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I lived on Heginbottom Crescent for a year or two.

  • @shaunperrin
    @shaunperrin 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +46

    This is ANGELA RAYNERS constituency the deputy prime minister. I live in ashton we now call it TRASHTON run by shame side council. I wish you had bumped into me I would have showed you our scruffy town run by labour and DEPUTY PM oh she must be proud. I remember this town when it was an amazing place.

    • @shaunperrin
      @shaunperrin 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      Very sad to see what has happened to our town. Gone but not forgotten

    • @ladyjennyanytime5195
      @ladyjennyanytime5195 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@shaunperrin Hiya Shaun. I loved living in Ashton, made it my home for over 15 years and worked there all that time as you know. it was so disheartening seeing what was allowed to happen to it.
      Blues closing and then the council/police went after all the other clubs and bars closing them down, just cuz they'd invested money in S.Bridge and only had the resources for one party town.
      They've absolutely killed Ashton!
      I had to move away, to get away from it and what ot was doing to my well being living there and seeing the town declining so rapidly. I dont think the guy who made this video realises just how quick;y things went down-hill. It was heartbreaking to see and feel powerless to do anything to stop it. I hope you're well matey. all the best. Jenny. X

    • @shaunperrin
      @shaunperrin 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@ladyjennyanytime5195 well said Jenny. Hope the town you live in now is much better x

    • @chrisarmitage7529
      @chrisarmitage7529 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      @shaunperrin ashtonistan hydeistan oldhammabad all were prosperous towns and now we see the pattern

    • @robertloader9826
      @robertloader9826 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      It was never amazing though was it. An utter shithole, always has been.

  • @thomasbrice8884
    @thomasbrice8884 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Great tour of Ashton! My girlfriend is originally from the Oldham/Chadderton area just a stones throw away. She is also a former patron of the Witchwood herself including a chuck up from too many alchopops. Would love to see a pub tour of Oldham in a future video. keep up the great work!

  • @spudfella4937
    @spudfella4937 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    No way! Me and my band played a gig at the Witchwood back in like 2011/2012. We were a metal band. I recognised it as soon as you pointed your camera through to show the inside of it.

    • @gefleigh4264
      @gefleigh4264 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Near the witchwood,always smells of urine?.

  • @theultimategamer95
    @theultimategamer95 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    Always makes my day when you upload!
    Went to Blackpool recently actually, not as bad as people say imo but no way I could stay there longer for the 2 nights I did (got there kinda late on the first night mind you). Pleasure Beach is fun. The pubs definitely aren't it compared to other places tho (for the most part). Is what it is though.
    This place is definitely... something. You did not hesitate on that Tetley's score.

    • @honestplaces
      @honestplaces  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Yeh mate....2 nights is perfect, i don't mind Blackpool for that time 👍Yeh was average 🤣

  • @stuarthowells1151
    @stuarthowells1151 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    1st one you went in I noticed was a craft Union pub. There were 2 in Torquay when I lived there. Both the cheapest in town and had character. You should do a tour there.

    • @honestplaces
      @honestplaces  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Didn't even notice....crazy prices

  • @jimshuff4349
    @jimshuff4349 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Glad you chose the Theatre Tavern, driven past there a few times, love the traditional green tiles outside, good ale price as well. Good vid mate

  • @KevinP-y7k
    @KevinP-y7k 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +51

    Looks well posh .. people from stoke go there for a holiday 👍🏾

    • @honestplaces
      @honestplaces  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      🤣

    • @lolasylvester8152
      @lolasylvester8152 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      lol stokes full of Tory’s and racists

    • @lucylane7397
      @lucylane7397 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      People from Sunderland feel intimidated by the opulence

  • @wiganbeargrylls
    @wiganbeargrylls 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +17

    You need to come to Wigan! love watching the vids. There's loads of dodgy pubs in Wigan 😂

    • @honestplaces
      @honestplaces  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      Yeh it's soon on the list pal

    • @wiganbeargrylls
      @wiganbeargrylls 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@honestplaces good to hear pal can't wait for that one. You'll be spoilt for choice 🤣

    • @markowhit4604
      @markowhit4604 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@honestplacestry leigh as well... unless you've already been...

  • @GrahamTroy-fd9rk
    @GrahamTroy-fd9rk 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    Believe it or not 80s and early 90s was cracking night out - weekends rammed every pub - few fights

    • @honestplaces
      @honestplaces  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Sounds bangin

  • @handymanbrian8269
    @handymanbrian8269 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    many great bands from Manchester. The Smiths, too, i believe

  • @davidwassell7112
    @davidwassell7112 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    I use to go to a pub called the coach house . The toilet trough use to overflow and the whole floor was a pool of piss . The good old days 😊

    • @honestplaces
      @honestplaces  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Sounds bangin 🍺

    • @davidwassell8505
      @davidwassell8505 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@honestplaces 😂😂😂

    • @davidwassell7112
      @davidwassell7112 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      @@honestplaces one more story . The club across the road use to top up with Guinness with slops . And people would be crawling after 3 pints . The early 80s

  • @MwahMwahProductions
    @MwahMwahProductions 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +18

    Sad to see the (managed?) decline of so many towns around the country.

    • @honestplaces
      @honestplaces  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      100%

    • @diskopartizan0850
      @diskopartizan0850 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Ashton has had a bit spent on it is the mad thing. While Hyde and Stalybridge have had less

    • @JJPwfelli
      @JJPwfelli 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      It's not managed decline. That implies someone gives a shit about these defunct places.

    • @MwahMwahProductions
      @MwahMwahProductions 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@JJPwfelli Good point!

    • @MwahMwahProductions
      @MwahMwahProductions 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@diskopartizan0850 That is mad, looked pretty grim.

  • @CameronCorneilus
    @CameronCorneilus 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Looking forward to this all week. Decent pint of Guinness. Me old fella use to deliver in that area.

    • @honestplaces
      @honestplaces  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Get him back down there!

  • @RedHiker22
    @RedHiker22 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    Northern people are a lot more down to earth. They just get on with it whatever circumstances they are in. When you go to rough areas in London, Bristol, Birmingham it’s more sketchy.

    • @Vanosphere
      @Vanosphere 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      That's called 'apathy' mate.

  • @eleveneleven572
    @eleveneleven572 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

    Outside of London England is pretty much a third world country now.
    Its heartbreaking to see it.
    I returned to the UK last year for a couple of weeks and left feeling in grief at what i saw and the run down state of the place.... and that was in a more affluent area in Worcestershire than what I saw here.

    • @rowly132
      @rowly132 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Nonsense.

    • @UmbertoDavidPanda
      @UmbertoDavidPanda 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Ye but it is what it is. Best crack on

    • @jawlig
      @jawlig 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Yep, poor country attached to a rich financial centre.

    • @gefleigh4264
      @gefleigh4264 หลายเดือนก่อน

      London is the skid mark in the underwear of Britain.

  • @altyfc2010
    @altyfc2010 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I worked in ashton town centre in the 90s one of the worst town centres i ever worked in for threats of violence. I cant even begin to imagine what it is like to work there now

  • @lankylemon8555
    @lankylemon8555 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    If you would have kept walking about in the centre you might have stumbled across a retro games shop 'Rewind'. Proper good and worth a visit.

    • @honestplaces
      @honestplaces  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      better than the NQ64's?

  • @dizzypratt5472
    @dizzypratt5472 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Loved your video of a disappearing world. Still best crack on. 😃

  • @J_Stamps86
    @J_Stamps86 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Sure my band played in the Witchwood before I joined, we've got flyers up in the practice room. A past bad I was in got booked there one time back in the mid 2000's but it got cancelled so I've never actually been. Shame really cos I love places like that, a bit rough round the edges but with plenty of character.

    • @honestplaces
      @honestplaces  4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Would of been mint playing there lad!

  • @Sunburst42
    @Sunburst42 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I work in north Manchester, Ashton isn't quite as bad as Harpurhey or Cheetham hill, would love to see you take a visit round there. Specifically the Embassy Club, I've never had the desire to go inside myself but would be good to from your perspective so I don't have to.
    Keep up the good work :)

  • @steventaylor6934
    @steventaylor6934 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Another great video mate keep up the great content 🎉🎉

    • @honestplaces
      @honestplaces  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Cheers buddy 👍

  • @thehypesthype2614
    @thehypesthype2614 18 วันที่ผ่านมา

    When you walked into the Star Inn, the nostalgia of hearing that proper pub door squeeking as it opened and closed with a big bang at end! I remember so many times going into pubs like this as a kid or teenager and it felt really fun to actually be in these places when they were lively. That noise though, man ive heard that so many times, does anyone know if pub doors were actually designed exactly like this to stop people sneaking in etc to steal beer or the till, if someones out the back they can hear the door etc?

  • @WiganGazKobe824
    @WiganGazKobe824 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    I wonder if Jim Royle and Twiggy were with Barb, Denise, Anthony and Dave Best in The Feathers? 🍻 ❤

    • @honestplaces
      @honestplaces  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      🤣

    • @WiganGazKobe824
      @WiganGazKobe824 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@honestplaces I saw someone else said it after I did but I’m sure everyone’s thinking it, looks like better days are ahead for poor old Ashton……..

    • @Mr.o-lt4hl
      @Mr.o-lt4hl 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Joe was there the boring cunt

  • @TomTobin67
    @TomTobin67 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Hi! I live in California and I'll be making my first trip to England next year and I hope to visit that Witchwood pub.

    • @gefleigh4264
      @gefleigh4264 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Save yourself the pain,!it's like the bronx,!only worse.😢.

  • @surebrec5113
    @surebrec5113 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    "To be fair...
    ...It is what it is!"
    That'd be a good slogan for the front of a T-shirt.

    • @danboid
      @danboid 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      2/2!

  • @nige3801
    @nige3801 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Aah, you mentioned "the witchwood" - I remember seeing a zappa band there with some original members (the Italian drummer in particular!

  • @malc666eski
    @malc666eski 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Its too bad you didn’t venture more than just around the block 😂
    You have good nice pubs like the obvious spoons, then the fire station(engine room) next door to it, the ladysmith next to that and the prince of orange next to that…
    The feathers you missed out on, top end bar, and then the station pub the road over from feathers 😁
    It is good in Ashton just know what atmosphere your comfortable with, there is even Olivers bar an underground one next to iceland on the market 😁

  • @jamesgornall5731
    @jamesgornall5731 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

    If Aston is bad, try Gorton or Wythenshawe. Still, things change, when I was at Manchester Uni in 2001, the Northern Quarter was pretty hanging, but fun.

  • @cricketbat09
    @cricketbat09 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    The closure of pubs in the UK is no surprise. I believe the only reason they lasted so long was because of the 'monopoly' they held over the access to alcohol. Once supermarkets were free to sell booze 24/7, people no longer needed to use a 'local.'

    • @davewordsworth1251
      @davewordsworth1251 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      true that mate

    • @JJPwfelli
      @JJPwfelli 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Is what it is mate.

    • @AntonyBall-hm4jo
      @AntonyBall-hm4jo 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      The smoking ban started the decline - people were already struggling financially.
      And so the decline started regarding pub culture, loss of dominoes, darts & pool leagues.
      In our area in Cheshire, we had 40 Sunday league pub teams up to the early 90's - now all gone.

    • @stitchlover633
      @stitchlover633 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Partly due to the smoking ban and now they want to stop smoking in the beer gardens also Islam doesnt agree with alcohol It is a way of keeping people apart to stop socialisation

  • @toastmalone7957
    @toastmalone7957 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Ashton was a brilliant night out late 90's / early 2000's. Full of bars, pubs, clubs. There was a thriving house music scene where many of the DJ's went on to bigger things. We started going out around '98 when we started 6th form (Luckily the door policies were loose to say the least). Staleybridge took over though and the shootings saw the start of Ashton's downfall. I moved away years ago, but it's a shame to see what it's become.

  • @Nickpaintbrush
    @Nickpaintbrush 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    1st Guinness looked nice, especially for the money!

    • @honestplaces
      @honestplaces  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Unreal init

    • @jayd1974
      @jayd1974 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yeh it did actually

  • @warwickdavis6519
    @warwickdavis6519 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I went to Ashton sixth form 10 years ago, whenever I drive through again it just looks worse and worse, but theres definitely worse areas in manchester. Ashton house prices stay decent and pubs stay open due to the easy manchester commute.

  • @paulmcloughlin5633
    @paulmcloughlin5633 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +29

    I see a new honest places video, I click

    • @honestplaces
      @honestplaces  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      You know it makes sense 🤣 cheers pal

    • @Mr.TTTTTTTT
      @Mr.TTTTTTTT 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@honestplacesit is what it is😊

  • @darrenwarby32
    @darrenwarby32 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I was born and lived in Ashton for 42 yrs until moving to Spain 14 yrs ago . The Angel pub was run by an old school friends Parents . The Yates's wine lodge was run by the Parents of Simoni Perrotti who won the world cup with Italy in 2006 . Geoff Hurst was also born in Ashton ...

  • @thetruth6693
    @thetruth6693 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    We've refurbed a few of them Craft unions 😂 some proper characters in them

  • @TerrancePartington
    @TerrancePartington 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Crowd of us use to meet at the New Nook on Broadoak once a month and go down Ashton.. Old Vaults, Black Vaults, Yates's etc.. great nights, well oiled..😅

  • @Cheezwizzz
    @Cheezwizzz 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    You should grade the smoking areas, the Beau Gestes was grim but the winner in my opinion was the Star Bars, broken tables and dying plants, proper grim!!😂

  • @johnbilsborough4065
    @johnbilsborough4065 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Go Preston Town Center you'll see some sights, plus it's rough in a good kinda way.

  • @HenkAngenik
    @HenkAngenik 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    I fancy a pint now.. Cheers

    • @honestplaces
      @honestplaces  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Get one in!

  • @DwaynetheMedicM.D
    @DwaynetheMedicM.D หลายเดือนก่อน

    just found you through wendell great stuff!!

  • @MrSteve_Luddite.
    @MrSteve_Luddite. 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    I lived in Oldham Road in A-U-L from 86-90.
    The Beau Gest was one of my locals. There's a lot of closed down pubs in Ashton now. Pity, because it was a buzzing place.

    • @honestplaces
      @honestplaces  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Yeh....people skint and the people who can afford just hop the tram

  • @theknightofdoom260
    @theknightofdoom260 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    The Witchwood :D loved that place when I was 18 I pulled a 35 year old biker chick :D.

    • @honestplaces
      @honestplaces  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Bangin place

    • @blackbeard1074
      @blackbeard1074 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Do you still have her crabs

    • @JohnHiggins-l4f
      @JohnHiggins-l4f 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Maybe she pulled you😂

  • @robertduffy937
    @robertduffy937 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Love the old architecture there!

  • @mrrrrr5158
    @mrrrrr5158 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Ashton my home town, born and raised! No way is it the most run down. Better than Gorton pal, better than Droylsden, better than Openshaw and many more.

    • @honestplaces
      @honestplaces  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      I'd say those other few have been done up abit more.....but yeh Gorton is deffo more rough mate

    • @SAIGONDISCO
      @SAIGONDISCO 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Maybe better but you’re still a yonner

  • @kennethhacker3014
    @kennethhacker3014 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    ALWAYS think about visiting Ireland....I live thru you guys and I thank you sir

    • @DanielBaker-y9d
      @DanielBaker-y9d 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      It's England you knob

  • @gruber1650
    @gruber1650 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    True Ashton's not what it used to be but most run down town is Oldham, only a few pubs left in town centre it's a proper shithole😮

    • @neil1997
      @neil1997 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      90% of the indigenous population don't drink

    • @gefleigh4264
      @gefleigh4264 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Alla be praised .

  • @adwilliams134
    @adwilliams134 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    @honestplaces You should do a tour of Oldham - especially King St/Union St. Oldham's pub trade is a shambles now. (I used to do pubs there & Heywood)
    Another interesting place would be Holyhead on Anglesey.

  • @ARyan-nf5my
    @ARyan-nf5my 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    Golden Touch Thai Massage 😆

  • @MatthewWrightakaM-acculate
    @MatthewWrightakaM-acculate 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Highlight was definitely Beau Gueste Barmaid.
    Definitely a bit Tasty! 🤤😉

    • @jackwilson544
      @jackwilson544 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Fish features more like

    • @ChsM-jk4oy
      @ChsM-jk4oy 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Defo the thumbnail caught me 😅😂

    • @gefleigh4264
      @gefleigh4264 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Still has her teeth anyway.

  • @jacko717
    @jacko717 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Gibson Music in Ashton town centre, run by Steve Gibson,is one of the few highlights. A proper independent musical instrument shop, you can order food in there too, lovely grub.

  • @DazDaz105
    @DazDaz105 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +17

    Keep em coming. . The way Starmer and Co are going there won’t be a pub left in England in a few years.

    • @honestplaces
      @honestplaces  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Probs right pal

    • @unitedfan1364
      @unitedfan1364 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@honestplacesshowing ur racism

    • @andrewshackleton6635
      @andrewshackleton6635 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

      14 years of the Tories rinsing the Country has caused this decline

  • @JohnWilkinson-t3u
    @JohnWilkinson-t3u 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Nice one, I was wondering when you'd get to Ashton. It's still a good night in the Witchwood too.

    • @honestplaces
      @honestplaces  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I'll have to venture back

  • @carolokbrblol
    @carolokbrblol 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

    Look people residents make it a shithole. I lived in a abject poverty growing up. But the shit beds we had. The shit furniture we had was spotless. The question you always ask. Who made this happen? Respect your community.

    • @samanthatate-eo9gn
      @samanthatate-eo9gn 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Actually the local council has shut everything down from the local swimming pool and food places on the market. You will meet some of the nicest people around down this end

    • @carolokbrblol
      @carolokbrblol 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @samanthatate-eo9gn I live in a shit estate some people are nasty. We don't have regular pick ups. But with respect I need and keep my shit contained. I walk past in the sidewalk shitty nappies. That what I'm talking about. Respect your community even if you have nothing.

  • @Daniel-vb6um
    @Daniel-vb6um 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Can you go around Oldham? See if they’re any pubs left

  • @richardmcdougall233
    @richardmcdougall233 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    It was The Feathers which was the pub in The Royle Family set in Greater Manchester.

  • @Warpcox
    @Warpcox 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    everytime we go to England our first stop is always the witchwood - give Lisa a hug from us Warren and Suzanne

  • @waxmandr
    @waxmandr 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Bar person @ The Star should respectfully hand their notice in after giving you a Guinness like that.

    • @honestplaces
      @honestplaces  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Wasn't the best

  • @moodyguymick
    @moodyguymick วันที่ผ่านมา

    Is the Witchwood still in business ? Used to go there a lot in the 90's.

  • @allan330
    @allan330 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Goes into pub, orders G. Heads out to the beer garden as nobody will talk to him. Moans about G. Repeat.

  • @toryhardjopawiro
    @toryhardjopawiro 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Wat cam r y using ?

    • @honestplaces
      @honestplaces  3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Dji pocket 2

  • @berserker6950
    @berserker6950 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Wtf happened? I grew up in A-U-L in the 80's early 90's. Ashton Market was thriving, town centre was packed every Friday/Saturday night, got a bit rough at times. The Burlington pub opposite what used to be swimming baths was sad to see. Played pool in there when I was 19 or so. Can't all be because of the tram line. There has been alot of development on the edge of town big unit retail park stuff. Maybe killed off small businesses in the centre? Looks like a third world ghost town.

    • @tonyclegg5397
      @tonyclegg5397 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Twas what it was mate.😉

    • @MrFlava1982
      @MrFlava1982 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I grew up in Tameside,Stalybridge to be precise from 1994 to 2019 altho had stints in Royal Navy and living in Spain in between that time and yeh Tameside was the place to be and bring a family up in GM area back in 90s and early noughties. Was in Ashton 2 month ago and deffo changed for worst now,Penny Meadow totally changed,hate that Tameside One building where they moved library in,old library was in a lovely old building full of character.

  • @SeanONeill-ef5vb
    @SeanONeill-ef5vb 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Not rough or anything but would love to see you do the Otley Run in Leeds

    • @honestplaces
      @honestplaces  4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Gonna do manny to leeds run 👍

  • @jaybeebee9288
    @jaybeebee9288 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    So...like every video, you went to see what was "kicking off" - but in this one, you found out where it actually DOES "kick off".... :)

    • @honestplaces
      @honestplaces  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Yeh 🤣.....but it was full of oldies reading books

    • @jaybeebee9288
      @jaybeebee9288 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@honestplaces F you, you northern twonk None of them were reading books, and neither were you.

  • @nomore6939
    @nomore6939 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I live in the South East, I don't recognise these places as even being in England, it all looks like Eastern Europe to me.

    • @tommykarate9397
      @tommykarate9397 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      You should visit Eastern Europe before talking nonsense!

  • @Chicken-x6q6d
    @Chicken-x6q6d 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The Star, I remember people talking about that when I lived in Monton more than 20 years ago.

  • @ekj24uk
    @ekj24uk 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Never drink in a flat roof pub 😂

  • @mickhurley7305
    @mickhurley7305 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Go to Ireland and do some pub crawls.
    Youd do well , have a bit of craic, I think your like it and be well received . Youve a great outlook.

  • @markwilson9061
    @markwilson9061 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +21

    Angela Rayner's constituent.....

    • @Kris_1708
      @Kris_1708 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      Wow ..bet the champagne socialists are having a great time though

    • @wentoneisendon6502
      @wentoneisendon6502 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Cannot stand her at all. Gross woman

    • @MOT2234
      @MOT2234 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Ashton might end up going Reform at the next GE, would be an improvement from Labour

    • @markwilson9061
      @markwilson9061 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@MOT2234 I was hoping Tameside was going to vote reform at the last election, but it has been a red heartland for 40 years, so no change there then; like turkeys voting for Christmas

    • @neil1997
      @neil1997 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I came to make this comment