Rewind That With New Edition - Brooke Payne Gets Fired | The New Edition Story
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It trips me out how much bryshere and mike biv sound alike
Damn thats a great pic and comment
Allandra Adams he did sound just like him on top of that he had his mannerisms and demeanor down pat.
Michael Bull he hung out with Mike for a few weeks to study him
Sam Brooks ooo
Sam Brooks That's still a testament to how good of an actor he is he could've studied him and did a terrible job
they blamed brooke, when it was all the parents fault. They should've read thoses damn contracts...
They need to read contracts before they sign it first
It's true that they should have read the contracts first, but I think all everyone was thinking about was the money they would earn, and I think in their mothers' case, they would probably not have understood what they were reading, so how could they have possibly explained anything to their children at the time? They needed to have lawyers present to help them to understand the language written in the contract, and what everything meant; but unfortunately, they more than likely could not afford to have a lawyer help them understand the contract before signing, and it was just a sad and terrible situation all around, they shouldn't have had to experience something like that, but unfortunately, that's how the music industry works.
That happened to me years ago i was offered a recording contract but my mom found out about the company ane didn't want me signed to the company always have to read the contract first
the mothers were kinda annoying. especially bobby brown's mother.
Also Brooke was not their manager.
Why Ronnie so funny? "My $0.37, I still don't know where its at to this day." Gotta love Mr. DeVoe!!
I love how even through all of this Brooke stayed by the boys side
He loved them like his own son's that's way he's a great father figure to them and why I respect him 👍✊👍✊
Yup and he also ain’t gonna leave his nephew hanging either
@@ericbest6246considering he was related to one of them biologically lol
LMMFAO Ronnie say he still waiting on his 37 cents ..from the Candy Girl royalties 😂😂😂😂
Lmmfao
Ronnie Devoe
2017
Bruhhh???
The acting and the series is way better than I expected. On point. Good to see Wood Harris getting work. Dude always does his thing whether it's Avon Barksdale or Ace.
Or his role in "Remember the Titans"
yes I love him he plays very interesting but good roles
Brandon bates Yeah he had more roles doing his thing but I'm not gonna put everything
Two Cents ... mike biv if no one else wouldn't have let trash in on the movie. He's a business man. Also, the fact they all are still alive and can have real input on their characters have everything to do with it to,ya know? 😃
::Belle:: it's certain movies that came out when the ppl were alive and it still came out mediocre so idk. 🤷🏾♂️ fortunately the film came out well. I will give everyone that was involved in the movie credit.
Brooke even said that he was using his own money out of pocket for expenses. The mothers never thought about Maurice, a shame.
Ronnie's mom did. She was the only one who made sense
Brooke wasn't their manager.
@@CleanMusicLover229Yes he was
I knew uncle brook wasn't ripping them he cared about them too much
jarell lewis Lol It cracks me up when people refer to him as Uncle Brooke. What's crazy is when you meet him that's how he really makes you feel. This part was one of the hardest for me to watch because I knew my Uncle would never do such a thing.
Miss Payne lol he has become Uncle Brooke to alot of people since the movie. He's the 7th member of New Edition to me. He's like a couple of my comments on instagram and I was too geeked!!! Uncle Brooke is the man!!!
Aneshia Taylor Its been like that forever hun. It has tripled since the biopic. Its cool. He is truly the best Uncle in real life.
Brooke Payne did so much for that group. Got them in shape, cleaned them up, and have them their name. Why didn’t any of this cross the mothers’ minds when it came to talks about firing him? He’s the one on tour taking care of them and he really had their back. They owe him so much.
He also was not their manager
Brook even said he would spend his own money for the boys
Yeah but $1.00 is crazy
@@CleanMusicLover229Yes he was
@@KingGemini87 No he wasn't. Travis was their manager and Brooke was always their choreographer, in the early years.
its clear to see that mike was the hustler of new edition
Yeah
I think Bobby is. He's the hustler.
@@nicci212000yt I think both are in their own ways. Michael did the music thing and Bobby did music and food venture.
@@nicci212000yt Mike was the only one who got a distribution deal, signed multiple platinum selling groups like Boyz II Men, 702 & ABC. He also is the reason NE owns some, if not all, of their masters.
Boston have one of the most intelligent street smart kats
Just looking at movie felt they were unfairly treating Brooke when he was fired. Actually felt sorry for him, cause it was obvious his heart was brok en when he was dumped. Brooke had a genuine love for the group.
Maurice STARR was the real prob
Sam Brooks yep and then have the nerve to make a white bread verison of them
Sam Brooks. And, Gary, the greedy @$$ white man.
The same Maurice that Ralph fans think would've made Ralph a millionaire...lol..if he could give a group of 5 $1.87 to split, he definitely would pay Ralph in toothpicks...lol...
Starr must be a sociopath.
Who
Just like TLC, Legendary New Edition got used up and played. That messed up! One thing you don't play with is someone MONEY!!!!!
Cee-Cei Thomas SO DID THE SUGARHILL GANG THEY GOT SCREWED 2!
Not really, from the looks of it. It looked like little kids being unwise with their money then blaming everyone else for them being brok
@@tylon09 lol u sound dumb. They never go their money lol what are you going on about???
By their own people too
Don’t forget En Vogue who only got paid 2 pennies per album sell
the kids were spot on new edition i have to watch tonight.
Ronnie mad slow talking bout he don't know where his 37¢ at😂😂
I feel for Brook.....so sad.
this part was so sad
sweetpidi 1$.87 So SAD LIKE DAMN 💰💵💴💰✌&❤
Bryshere played the hell out of Michael Bivins!!! 💯💖
They have the same personality
LaLa did great when she started fighting for her family member! Everybody did a wonderful job in this Biopic! Gives real insight on how crooked the music industry is!
I didn't see the actors, I saw the real people. That's a testament to the work they put forth in the biopic
That mess up a $1.87 all the money for they first ablum the tour damn
Vantrell Lewis hell yeah! I'd be 😬😬😬😬😬
Vantrell Lewis hey recoupable is a mad real situation the Ent business. But Maurice Starr had to have his hands in those pockets for the numbers to shrink that much.
lol very cut throat indeed. i talk about it on my channel all the time. But cats can really win if they know what they are doing. It is what it is though.
I know that's crazy!! I talked about that in my review video on my channel.
Aunyéa Lachelle dope. What type of camera do u use
It’s called recoup. Record labels are basically business loans, and you have to payback “with interest” So you better hope that your albums and tours sell well enough to payback the loan and still make a profit.
I recorded it, so "patiently" waiting to watch this!..looks like I wont be disappointed. "Father I, truly I, THANK YOU".
Neither Brooke Payne nor the group members mothers understood the business aspect or had the money to hire attorneys to negotiate contracts for their children. This is an old age story with so many recording artists. The Sonya Norwood's (Brandi & Ray's mom), J Pat (Usher mom) and Matthew Knowles learned the business and had their own legal representative to make sure their children were not screwed financially by the industry.
Gotta learn about the business side of the industry.
Parents are now getting educated about the music industry and I am glad the showed what happen. Ain't no business like show business!!
Brooke was not their manager. And all their parents had to do was read the contracts
@@CleanMusicLover229 true, but its the old adage even used by motown. Get kids from the projects, show them upfront money that appears to get them out of the current situation, they jump at it!.
@@CleanMusicLover229Brooke was their manager stop saying that
A lot of groups got got like that back in the day unfortunately. When you're poor, living in the PJ's struggling and somebody is flashing $$$ in your face, that's all you're thinking about at that moment.That's why you should NEVER EVER EVER sign a contact w/ out reading the ENTIRE thing and having a lawyer present to break that shit down! But if you don't know, you don't know. Live and learn.
Exactly!!!! Im glad we know that NOW though....I didn't realize it until Prince changed his name to The Artist. fast Forward to today, NOBODY owns Prince's stuff...he took it to his grave with him
$1.87? There are kids in Cambodian/Indonesian sweatshops that were making more than that everyday!
Our people have been violated for generations - I'm just glad it's coming to an end soon........ ;-)
Wood Harris did a great job
The part of the movie that trip me out is when Wood Harris(Brook) came back. They play Jeffrey Osbourne( Holding On)..It reminds me of him smoking those cigarrettes
He sure did! He's a
hellafine actor as my Grandma would say
Still breaks my heart that y’all were robbed. So grateful you all are around to tell your story and finally get your flowers while y’all are here.
It's so sad how Maurice played them. On another note Ralph needs to grow his hair back.
Morgan Simon he has very pretty hair
Morgan Simon oh that shit gone lol
Morgan Simon Nooooo....lol...
...he cant...he lost it years ago...you know how...
@@nnamdionyido4885 how?
Ron is hilarious bruh. Give that man his .37 cents
Part 1 was epic. Can't wait for Part 2 tonight!! 👌👌👌👌👌🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
Yass I am hear for it 😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍
So, in reality, Whitney stole that line "Show me the receipts" from Bobby's mom???? lol
I really want to see this its sad how people get robbed
Seems like Brooke Payne really loved and cared for them. This was just a nasty mess
Pleasantly pleased with part 1....I know part 2 and 3 will be great too! The young NE boys did very good.
Ralph was real af still to this day. Shit there wouldn't have been new edition without him
Y'all forget everybody played their part(out of the dogs) Without Bobby they wouldn't have even formed the group, without Mike Brook wouldn't even have managed and helped them, without Ricky Ralph wouldn't have even been in the band, without Ralph they wouldn't have even become avband and would've probably been doing solos or sum
@@coolsomeash BS... Travis was the manager and Brooke was the choreographer. Corey Rackley and Travis Pettus were the OG member that formed the group
Here's what really upsets me... The fact that nobody got their rightfully earned check despite the success.
$1.87???? Heartbreaking. So grateful they shared their story. Still SMH after seeing that in the movie...
I love me some Uncle Brooke! Thanks Uncle Brooke!!!
What a talent and great man Brooke Payne is.............I had no idea he was such a great choreographer. Polished, smooth, amazing what he created.
Ralph looking like his interview was filmed circa 1973
They did my man Avon I mean Brook dirty.
that's crazy how still to this day they haven't received the money that there owed from candy girl, that song is up there with thiller and all the other hits.
the mothers pissed me off bc it was they fault they got those wack ass deals
steve johnson They neglected to read the contracts.
Yeah and how legal can the contracts be when the kids were signing them instead of the adults. Should have gotten a lawyer and all of that would have been avoided
steve johnson EXACTLY THEY SHOULD'VE INVESTIGATED MORE INTO THE SCENE BEFORE COMING OUT ON BROOKE
The whole point of the mothers firing Brooke was that they realized (too late) that he didn't know anything about how to manage the business/money side of things. Unfortunately, the mothers didn't know either and brought on another person who knew too well and ended up taking advantage of the boys. But I don't think they were wrong for firing Brooke. They were wrong for not reading the damn contracts they had their kids sign.
@@queenkingacejack Bill “Gary Evans” Dern.
“I really wish we didn’t have to come back here.” I felt that
New Edition just paid royalties from the Candy girl tour! Ron got the call baby God is good!!!!!!!😢😢😢😢😢
Some human beings are so foul. Loving money to the point they would take advantage of their fellow man. For some it even incites murder. It's a despicable form of behavior
"For the love of money is the root of all evil: which while some coveted after, they have erred from the faith, and pierced themselves through with many sorrows." 1 Timothy 6:10
that's fucked up. a song 30 years old and no royalties
it's amazingly irritating how ppl prey off of a child's innocence
The Edition movie was awesome!! I Love You New Edition & thank for your music because your songs came out in the right time when I needed it most.
Man. I hope this gives them therapy. Bc that's crazy. I've been following their story for years so seeing this movie makes it more sad. Royalties etc
Mike Lowrey (Will Smith) from _Bad Boys_ said it best: "We ride together, we die together. Bad Boys for life."
I have always heard "What you don't know won't hurt you" but in this case what was not known hurt a whole lot. All the talent and gifting that allowed them to excel in the music business and no business savvy or business acumen cost them dearly. Wolves and savages do not care who they take advantage of and coming from the projects it was as if many played on that mindset of "we just happy to be here." They had a passion for performing and it was a shame that their lack of business knowledge was a weakness taken advantage of. I feel this is a contributing factor as to why God has allowed them to maintain and sustain through the years and reap some of the fruits of their labor on the back end because they have sown so much through the years; never falling short of excellence! May God continue to show them favor, open doors, and allow their latter days to be much greater than the former days!
Rule #1: READ YOUR CONTRACT AND HAVE A LAWYER PRESENT!!!!
Maurice Starr I truly believe is the real crook. Brooke did a lot for New Edition, to the point where he even gave them their name. If anything his money is within that $1.87 mix as well. I love NE but they can be something else at times smdh 🤦🏾♀️
industry rule #4080, Record company people are shaadddyyy!
The thing is now thanks to streaming sites #NewEdition is surely not going to see any royalties for Candy girl
May Flower Exactly....I wish this would've been in theaters too, so they could've gotten some pay back. I think NWA did great at the theaters and this would've done just as great.
Sharla Gardner Are you watching part 2 right now
Sharla Gardner i agree with you. They've been wanting to do this so long, it should've been in the theatres. They Deserved That.
TAJATee IKR it's too good for tv props to the actors that played them
I wish it was in theatres too but no way to tell their whole story in 2 hrs 30min. Hell 6hrs is barely enough
Wood Harris is one of my favorite actors
I still ain't get my .37 cent. LMAO
I'm noticing a lot of hostility towards the parents, smh, people plz keep in mind that back in the days Labels created slave contracts on purpose. This just wasn't happening to NE! it happen to many artists, NWA, TLC, Prince etc.... Prince! created a way to get out of those crooked contracts by writing by changing his name to the Artist! so that he could still create music. Game changer, so for today's artists can be independent without the machine. Labels are struggling today, because Artist's smarten up.
+mesmerizingDST No excuses at all. But I understand from a place of compassion. I'm not gonna even pretend to know what it must feel like to be a single parent struggling & not wanting to question opportunity when it present itself. The parents jump at the chance of a lifetime & the rest is history
yes they would that is if they had a clue about how to deal with these type of things to begin with...they didn't and just like every struggling parent at that time, They saw dollar signs and that was all they thought about. remember in 1979-1980, 500 bucks was quite a bit of bread.
Example: Chance The Rapper
mesmerizingDST, While I can see where you are coming from, the artists you talk about being able to read and negotiate their contracts were adults, so they knew what they were reading, and could understand them a little bit with their lawyers present. The members of New Edition at the time, were children, so they couldn't possibly understand what they were reading. Their mothers' were struggling, and were, I'm sure, working very hard to provide for their children the best way they could, before this opportunity presented itself, and like I said in my previous response, their mothers' could not afford lawyers to help them understand the contract.
You still have to read contracts
That still was going on even through the 90's. I still wonder what happened to salt and Pepa money, and TLC, I think toni Braxton had the same issue for a little while.
That's crazy how til this day, they still haven't seen money from candy girl. Smh
I Love me some Ronnie Devoe he haven't aged a bit
wats fucked up biv started following in the same footsteps as the ppl who robbed them
Yeah that's was pretty messed up, I was very disappointed in him. I was like "OH NOOOOO SAY IT AIN'T SO"
steve johnson . Yep
Struggle check, they needed a half decent lawyer
Epic movie of the greatest r&b group of my time😗!!! BET who've done good👍👍👏. Please redo Alliayah 👰
“ he didn’t get paid and we didn’t get paid “ let that sink in
A standard contract is what most see. And, parents from the projects see that standard contract for new artists. Then, her comes the fine print, like everyone is saying on here. The fine print is what isn't standard. That's negotiated.
I see Delonda and Avon barksdale still got beef
Idekbuthey 😭😭😭😭
Idekbuthey I hate that broad 🤦🏾♂️ lol
😂😂😂
Olu Bukonla yyj
😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣
There's gotta be a way now they can get their royalties.
Mitchell Grosvenor industry practices all artists earn their album sales
Ralph already said it, Streetwise records is now defunct, you can't get blood from a rock.
Now if they take that fat bastard Maurice Starr to court as a civil suit, yes they may get a coin but isn't he dead?
curli-lettey he's still alive
Jared White OH, well they need to rip his pockets open and bleed 'em dry. Have his ass in jail like New Kids did to that manager who was robbing them.
curli-lettey Um...That would be Maurice, Both groups were under his management
Tonight is gonna be so amazing
Weirdly UniqueBih right
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Man Ronnie kills me...
"My 37 cents, I still don't know where the hell it's at." 😂🤣😂
JUST LIKE I WILL NEVER UNDERSTAND HOW THEY PLAYED TLC LIKE THAT.
Can we get an interview with (the real) Carol Brown????? She was my favorite mom, 😂😂😂😂😂😂 ...that leather Geisha top!!!
she is deceased
the movie was so good
I WILL NEVER UNDERSTAND HOW THEY PLAYED NEW EDITION LIKE THAT.
Can't wait for tonight
Imagine signing your child's career over in a contract without reading it
I like how Mike broke it down towards the end
THIS Film Is LIFE Thankx For It🤗🙌🏽👏🏽💋😘🙏🏽😍💕💚💙💜🧡
I can't wait for part 2 tonight.
I love to hear mike bivins talk way to go Boston
what if ace boogie never left the cleaners?
Just Julius nope it's all about the llello he got bobby that columbian connect. But u kno then rico had to get fukkin greedy.
Just Julius 😂😂😂
I LOVED this biopic so much that I made a review video about it on my channel!
Ronnie is so fine ❤💕
Hey Donna
Every single cast member of the entire movie looked like the person or resembled the characters that thet played!!!!
Meanwhile NKTOB got TV specials, lunch boxes and a Saturday morning cartoon...damn! Still got love for both groups though.
...and I learned a new word called "Recoupment".
OK question even tho the record label they were with when they recorded candy girl can't they still get royalties because candy girl still gets played sometimes I'm just not understanding that part
his face at 1:09 tho lol he was so through
that's wood harris man this is great !!!
So if someone buys the Candy Girl album they don't get paid?
The candy girl album if Im not mistaken is handles by someone else now...I think Rhino records owns the rights to it....They did just release the 25th anniversary version of thAT album UPDATE!!!! Streetwise records is owned by Phase One Network, a music asset management company which now controls over 20 labels in the pop, rap, dance, jazz, and R&B genres.now which is NOT in defunct so if NE wanted to, they could buy back the rights to that album from them
I don't know this for a fact...but I think this predatory practice you always hear about in the music business stems from the record companies arranging things to minimize their own risk at the artists' expense. In business in general, when you invest money in a venture, you understand that you're taking a certain risk that the venture might flop, the investment might not pay off, and you might not even break even, let alone actually *make* any money. But they conveniently structure the expenses they have to pay as a loan so as to *guarantee* that they get that money back, whether the act blows up or goes belly up. It seems to me that they basically put all the risk on the artists, which isn't really fair-especially when they're a bunch of kids.
Wood did a great job as Brooke...
2:26-2:35 If this isn't me😂😂😂😂
So happy they told the truth about him. It wasn't his fault the company went bankrupt.
That second "raise your hand" felt more like a command than a choice.
Yup it sure as hell did
shot out to Wood Harris, good job man loved the movie.
I LOVE YOU NEW EDITION
the series of Marley the end watch it is dope as heck