Jay, what about for an example, measuring the air gap on a concentric fitted to an MT82 mustang trans and a twin disc? The bellhousing is cast as 1 piece. Personally, in my experience, what we do is thread bolts into the holes of the block that would allow us to simulate the bellhousing edge and perform the other measurements the same way, however, this can be dubious at times, because threading the bolts in can and has in some cases lead to incorrect measurements/clearances.
to do the drops really easy get a digital caliper... .and a large machinist square.. set the thick part of the machinist square against the throw out bearing. drop down to the bearing face and zero out your caliper.... now on the straight edge drop down to the face of the trans... no need to subtract the thickness of your straight edge... do the same to the bellhousing to pressure plate fingers....
because of u sir now i know how to measure the forge piston....because someone tell me that forge piston need to be same size at bottom and the top...tq so much sir...low hp of b16a boosted
ive lightened , balanced and skimmed my flywheel - now my thrust bearing keeps failing , MTX 75 gearbox - this my first zetec setup where the bearing in transmission is failing
My mcleod rxt twin disc with new pinion bearing and slave cylinder stock on my 2015 ford mustang gt performance package will not do a burnout if i rev at 3-4000rpm with traction totaly off, intead it acts like the traction control is on..what am i doing wrong
My twin clutch was fine and now after 600miles You can feel the first plate is engaged straight of the fire wall and judders the car and the second plate engages right at the end of the clutch travel (peddle) before taking off What is the issue ? I have bleed the clutch which fixed it but did not last long
Man I'm coming up with like 15 shims, this is a 2002 manual mustang transmission going into a 302, don't know year and it is going into a 91 ford ranger, not sure if this is uncommon for this many shims..lol..first time. And looks like the slave cylinder support rod is going to be short also..
The easy test is to put the car in gear and rev the engine to 6,000-7,000 RPM with the clutch depressed and see if the car moves. If it moves with the engine speed up and the car moves it needs more air gap OR the discs are not floating freely on the input shaft. Thanks
Is it possible to measure this distance on a T56 magnum/McLeod RXT w/ the transmission and bell still bolted to the motor? Or does the spring have to be removed from the TOB in order to get the collapsed distance? Obviously, pulling the trans back would be easier, in most cases. But the swap I’m working with is far from convenient to unbolt and pull the trans away.
Hai jay i have a twin plate clutch install in 4g63 6 bolt engine. The clutch plate teeth both all worn out..what could cause this to happen?need some advice...
What gearbox are you guys showing there and what car is it going in? I have a supra currently with a W58 sitting behind an Aristo 2JZGTE and I am looking at a T56 conversion. Just trying to get as much information as possible before I start down this road. Also great video thanks for the upload.
Hi Jay... I installed mine up to spec, but everytime i shift the TOB squeels.. mostly on 1st and 2nd gear on lower RPM.. goes away on higher RPM. Then after putting miles on the clutch, about 200 miles, the squeel minimized.... Maybe need to be break-in?
you might of gotten a bad TOB it happens. did you reuse your old one or did you get a new one. you are suppose to change them when you do a clutch change.
I believe it is in relation to the particular ckamp pressure that the springs can be purchased. A color for different pressure basically, i could be wrong but Titon do offer different set ups with a color reference
Truth from Jay, Saving you money, and no headaches from accusing your lame ass installer of being an idiot - priceless. Glad I live in FL to send my car to Real St
bro, I have a quarter master tri-lite release bearing and quarter master optimum v clutch. replaced clutch as it was bad, and also bearing and cylnder, but still grinds in reverse, and 1 - 4th are hard to shift. Is it the trans gone? (its a super t-10 4 speed.) Also, my release bearing bolts onto the bellhousing not trans, so how do you measure the gap between the throwout bearing and the clutch forks? Thanks! Its for my nascar racecar here: th-cam.com/users/shortsHheyapi8Sis
To clarify guys, this is concentric slave throw out bearings only.
The measurement is different for clutch fork setups, with a pivot ball.
3:15, i believe you need to subtract the straight edge width before doing all the other measurements
Good topic. This would easily be overlooked by many people! All these prelim measurements will save alot of heartache
Jay, what about for an example, measuring the air gap on a concentric fitted to an MT82 mustang trans and a twin disc? The bellhousing is cast as 1 piece. Personally, in my experience, what we do is thread bolts into the holes of the block that would allow us to simulate the bellhousing edge and perform the other measurements the same way, however, this can be dubious at times, because threading the bolts in can and has in some cases lead to incorrect measurements/clearances.
to do the drops really easy get a digital caliper... .and a large machinist square.. set the thick part of the machinist square against the throw out bearing. drop down to the bearing face and zero out your caliper.... now on the straight edge drop down to the face of the trans... no need to subtract the thickness of your straight edge... do the same to the bellhousing to pressure plate fingers....
because of u sir now i know how to measure the forge piston....because someone tell me that forge piston need to be same size at bottom and the top...tq so much sir...low hp of b16a boosted
ive lightened , balanced and skimmed my flywheel - now my thrust bearing keeps failing , MTX 75 gearbox - this my first zetec setup where the bearing in transmission is failing
Wish I had the money for a twin or tripple plate...
what are the best bang for buck upgrades for a natural k series k20/k24. want some more Honda k series stuff
Awesome vid! Keep it up Real St
Install a twin competition clutch and when I press the clutch pedal it makes noise and I already replaced the clutch bearing and the noise continues
My mcleod rxt twin disc with new pinion bearing and slave cylinder stock on my 2015 ford mustang gt performance package will not do a burnout if i rev at 3-4000rpm with traction totaly off, intead it acts like the traction control is on..what am i doing wrong
Can you guys do a Video install of a RPS twin/Triple on a V160?
This is true for all clutches, not only multiplate ones:p
My twin clutch was fine and now after 600miles
You can feel the first plate is engaged straight of the fire wall and judders the car and the second plate engages right at the end of the clutch travel (peddle) before taking off
What is the issue ?
I have bleed the clutch which fixed it but did not last long
Needed this video 💯👈.
Man I'm coming up with like 15 shims, this is a 2002 manual mustang transmission going into a 302, don't know year and it is going into a 91 ford ranger, not sure if this is uncommon for this many shims..lol..first time. And looks like the slave cylinder support rod is going to be short also..
Is .200" Good for a Competition Clutch Twin Disc and Clutch Master Hydro Bearing, Honda s2000?
The easy test is to put the car in gear and rev the engine to 6,000-7,000 RPM with the clutch depressed and see if the car moves. If it moves with the engine speed up and the car moves it needs more air gap OR the discs are not floating freely on the input shaft. Thanks
Is it possible to measure this distance on a T56 magnum/McLeod RXT w/ the transmission and bell still bolted to the motor? Or does the spring have to be removed from the TOB in order to get the collapsed distance? Obviously, pulling the trans back would be easier, in most cases. But the swap I’m working with is far from convenient to unbolt and pull the trans away.
What causes a pressure plate diaphragm to flatten out/collapse when tighten?
LOL! I need to teach you guys how to properly do drops....
Nice video, Jay is there a way to check it when the clutch is already installed? Does this procedure apply to all types of clutch and throw bearing?
How big should the gap be?? they have to touch ? The throw out bearing has to turn with the clutch if the pedal is not pressed?! thank you so much!
For Tilton T/P it's recommended between .160 and .200 or 3.8mm and 5mm max
Does it carry a diagram to show how to install
Do you have any tips for single disk clutches?
Akizzem that guy drives an auto
What transmission is that in the video (@ 3:21 )? Tremec t56?
Yes sir.
This dude Jay is awesome
hes the goat
Very helpful
Hai jay i have a twin plate clutch install in 4g63 6 bolt engine. The clutch plate teeth both all worn out..what could cause this to happen?need some advice...
Can you email me some pictures of your problem? Jay@realstreetperformance.com Thanks
how does this differ from the RPS Twin carbon install? great content gents!
it s the same.
What gearbox are you guys showing there and what car is it going in? I have a supra currently with a W58 sitting behind an Aristo 2JZGTE and I am looking at a T56 conversion. Just trying to get as much information as possible before I start down this road. Also great video thanks for the upload.
Looks like a magnum t56xl
Hi Jay... I installed mine up to spec, but everytime i shift the TOB squeels.. mostly on 1st and 2nd gear on lower RPM.. goes away on higher RPM. Then after putting miles on the clutch, about 200 miles, the squeel minimized.... Maybe need to be break-in?
you might of gotten a bad TOB it happens. did you reuse your old one or did you get a new one. you are suppose to change them when you do a clutch change.
Why is that one spring painted blue?
I believe it is in relation to the particular ckamp pressure that the springs can be purchased. A color for different pressure basically, i could be wrong but Titon do offer different set ups with a color reference
Watch one minute into this th-cam.com/video/KcSyCxWVDkA/w-d-xo.htmlm05s
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Truth from Jay, Saving you money, and no headaches from accusing your lame ass installer of being an idiot - priceless. Glad I live in FL to send my car to Real St
@@socaliluv have you had real street work on your car?
Hey I would like to discuss my clutch issue with you. I'm on Instagram hammersrt
bro, I have a quarter master tri-lite release bearing and quarter master optimum v clutch. replaced clutch as it was bad, and also bearing and cylnder, but still grinds in reverse, and 1 - 4th are hard to shift. Is it the trans gone? (its a super t-10 4 speed.) Also, my release bearing bolts onto the bellhousing not trans, so how do you measure the gap between the throwout bearing and the clutch forks? Thanks! Its for my nascar racecar here: th-cam.com/users/shortsHheyapi8Sis