New Advanced Clutch Technology - UniClutch Twin Plate - Motive Tech
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 27 ต.ค. 2023
- In this episode of Motive Tech we are taking a look at the new technology and features in a UniClutch tiwn-plate clutch.
More info: www.uniclutch.com/
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This is exactly the kind of concept we need in this day and age: A unified and modular system that the end user can install and service. Not just for clutches or car parts, but for everything!
I need to find a long term review of this clutch.
This sounds super legit.
I'm hugely skeptical of that adapter ring holding up to 2000nm of abuse but I'm sure I'll be proven wrong and their engineers know what they're doing. cool product
I had the same thought. Then i just happen to go look at the fly wheel on my 2jz and yeah. Got 1,010hp and 500+lbs and what 6 tiny bolts and 3 dowel pins. Yeah, i actually think if that ring is made of high grade steel and it ia actually inside the perimeter of the bolts and is held by high grade hardware as long as there is no play just might be strong enough.
Also dubious about concentricity. The ring appears to be doweled to the flywheel but not to the clutch itself.
@@dravindarkcloudable I'm sure if you wanted, it'd be pretty easy to bolt it to a flat flywheel too ? It's a novel idea overall. I like their multiplate design, and how they also still offer organics discs with well sprung hubs.
If of course it ever appears for sale for needed fitments.
@@dravindarkcloudable my thought is eurathane once heated to said temp of what it is rated? will become soft plyable & may reshape itself on those damper/pinch points feel unsure of long term effect from hot engine & trans heat along with its own heat from friction disc?
Thoughts or answers on this please as im drivin like miss daisy so not to slip my worn out clutch ( high engagement all in first 10-15mm of pushing pedal) so believe i may well be needing a new clutch asap for my 2005 1st gen 2.4L PT CRUISER☆JoeDog+k9Buddie☆2door~PT~van☆
What as opposed to a thin metal flexplate bolted to a convertor ?
I love the concept and implementation of that extended damping range on the sprung section! Time will tell how well their intermediate/adapter plate solution for mounting holds up over time, theoretically its sound but harmonics are a ficle thing when it comes to mounting and regidity. Might have to consider this for my track car if I find my current clutch isn't holding up.
These guys were awesome to see at SEMA and worked off the ORC 559 style wire EDM center section to quick-swap for a given application. Really cool innovation with the twin-spring array and the superb damping design for smoothness. They'll be having my business after the SPEC Twin Disc is broken in, and a custom 8.5" w/ T56 Magnum is fitted for a Rotary 13B application from these boys.
Dude! The change in YOU from the last clutch video is awesome! Keep it up Big Dawg 💪🏼
Will be cool to see how this works out in practice.
High power streetable clutches have really come a long way the last decade or two.
I love the way they designed and presented the products😺 It's so clear for our consumers to see, and they've made it incredibly easy to install and use. The dampening features are amazing, I would love to experience a car with this clutch installed. The rattling noise from my current twin-plate clutch can become a bit annoying over time.
Ive driven a car with this in it. its amazing. I have a mantic twin plate in my car (600hp) and its soooo much nicer to drive than the ORC clutch that came out of it.....
@@newguyoz it isn't a mantic clutch ?
Damn what a design. I love this.
Cant wait to start installing them.
Looks like a bloody brilliant idea, the company behind it is my only personal concern but that's neither here nor there..
My experience with an "experimental" clutch built and fitted by them didn't end well but that was 5-6 years ago, alot can change in that time and by the looks of it, it has..
I think I'll wait for feedback before dipping my toes in this time instead of being the one toffer feedback
funny you say that, i commented on one of their instagram posts asking who the company above them was and they didnt answer haha
@@babarnett1987 Yeah, plausible deniability lol.
My brother inlaw was a sales rep for clutch industries so I got a free mantic twin plate they'd made and fitted for free that was claimed to be easily daily driveable, had no chatter and would handle high torque loads, I was supposed to give feedback on the clutch as a guinea pig in return..
I had a twin plate previously but it was a pull-to-push type conversion and theirs was a direct fit pull type clutch kit for EVO 4-9..
First off, when picking car up it wouldn't start (plugs fouled, run in tune and them moving in/out of shop) and then the speedo didn't work as they didn't reconnect it and the wheel nuts were left loose🤦♂️..
But that was the workshop they had do the work, not them.
The clutch was good in that it had a light pedal and easy take up, no judders but still rattled just not as bad as normal twin plate.
It was a fresh 2.4L bored and stroked on run in tune and handled it fine so hopes were high, then when full tuning it started slipping at 380wkw at all four, so was detuned to 360wkw and left there (dyno run is on my channel).
Then, doing a 3rd gear pull BANG! clang clang ding ding dadingg... Holes in the bellhousing.
Tear it down, pressure plate broke where spacers and allen keys are and they exited through gearbox bellhousing. Pull clutch assembly off and there were witness marks on the ARP flywheel bolts where centre sprung springs had been hitting and would obviously hit more with wear as the friction material was the only thing keeping the tolerance although also likely what reduced it's bite on the flywheel..
All in all, never again lol
Definitely the next item to upgrade after the valve springs on my gr corolla
Hawko - The Troy McClure snippet is epic and great video
Andrew is an amazing teacher.
i love them im going to use one in my jeep barra conversion cos i can get it to suit the barra but splin the middle to suit the jeep
perfect for me :D
Looks like a great piece of kit. I'm curious as to which car it's going in though. I'd have thought your R32 would be the obvious choice to see if it really does help alleviate or eliminate the noise, but I'd imagine you'd realistically want the race spec one for that.
You guys are the best !!!
Do they have options for push vs pull type clutches?
Already on the shelf at lots of Repco's around Australia, mechanics can access these parts too in select supply systems.
Happy to have click and watch 😊.
Very interesting!
Very cool! I’ve had the aftermarket dual disk clutches in my car and was not happy with it at all. It did have the rattle and pedal feel was bad. It also had a lot of chatter. This was in my 70 BBC Chevelle.
When I put a SPEC billet FW/Twin disc on my 2015 Mustang EcoBoost it was SO noisy at stop lights. It had a DMFW from factory, so thanks for the explanation! I thought it was about to blow up every time I drove it hahaha
Very interesting and cool Aussie product.
That's impressive
Got me all excited for my getrag. Unfortunately, it is not available. I assume this is due to the push/pull conversions they require. Hopefully, something in the near future for us loud getrag owners.
Sounds awesome!
Do they make a ford 1600 kent size clutch?
Nothing beats a nice clutch in a light manual car.
Just looked this up and damn I really want to get one maybe next year, thses are very adorable right now
I wonder how well those urethane pieces will hold up. That material generally doesn’t withstand high heat. In normal driving they would probably be fine but for racing applications it seems like they would deteriorate pretty quickly.
Dang, that's sweet.
Nice!! I'm going to contact them 😊. Hopefully we can get 1 to Japan. Nice vid
How would this compare to another Aussie clutch XClutch? I have their twin organic disc clutch and lightened flywheel for my Honda Type R Fk8? Pedal is almost oem feel and rated to 900 ft lbs. it’s not sprung but engages very smoothly. It does jingle when the clutch pedal is pressed down but that just may be a part of what twin disc clutches.
Just when I am about to order a new clutch this video pops up in my feed. Audi A4 3.0 quattro available ?
Wow this is a cool piece of tech!!! Seems like this could take over the Z/G scene
real! CD tranys in general I have one on my 1jz swapped s13, I saving up for one of these bad boys to get rid of the CD gravel noises
Interesting application @ 6:52 - installing the clutch on an automatic transmission :P
Can a uniclutch bolt to a flex plate and operate instead of flywheel.
Sounds like the dual mass flywheel is acting like a harmonic isolator. Where the trans and rotating assembly are alowed to move into phase, or never stay in a bad synchronization long enough to setup a audible trimmer/shake/ resonance.
I can't wait to see/hear this in a Getrag, mine makes a bunch of noise when the pedal is released but not in gear. Been told it's normal but super ready to get rid of the sound!
Only way you are getting rid of it is a dual mass flywheel. Or increase idle to 1000+rpm.
if your foot is not on the clutch pedal, the clutch cannot make any noise, it's all clamped up. Something else is making your noise
Nice
👌 nice
Very cool idea. You should fit a sports model to a gtr and test it at the drags.
I’d like to see it in use.
One thing missed.. rebuilds? Send it off and get a core?
Will Def look into this when it comes time.
Are these just push style clutches as my evo x isa pull styles clutch be interesting know to be honest As I have just dropped a £1600 exedy twin plate in
So if they test the clutch prior to you getting it or prior to it sitting on the shelf does that mean it's already broken in kind of?😅
Do you make 1 for chevy 350 2 peace main seal. 10.5.
Hello I would like to use this clutch on my gr yaris with single mass flywheel. Can you recommend me single mass flywheel which is compatible with this clutch? Thanks,Regards
Can you get replacement parts?? I asked our repco rep to check, she said clutch rep didnt know??
Sounds perfect for what I'm wanting, but they don't have an option for Subaru 6 speed 😭
How much additional flywheel weight is added, by fitting the Uniclutch assembly with its own inbuilt flywheel?
Like someone else posted, that bolted on torque ring does not looks like the sort of thing a track car will eat up. No doubt theres a heap of FDA and hopefully a lot of test hours on it and we'll be wrong about it, just looks... I dunno, flimsy 🤷
sounds like a good solution for bmw with smfw chatter.... but the torque rating is kinda low (anything n54/b58/s55 running on ethanol mixes is going to need the track version) and personally, it's a bit expensive for what it is... the street version they currently have available on their site with a new flywheel costs more than a xclutch twin plate organic which comes with a new flywheel...
Brilliant idea and design. Let’s hope we keep getting manual cars!
The only way to keep manual cars around is to keep buying them.
My first hand-me-down car was MT. I've since purchased 5 *new* cars, and 3/5 were MT. One AT car wasn't even for myself, so I got excuse for that, and I needed a specific feature on other AT car.
I'm planning to pick up another new MT car within a year.
Send me one for my C7 ZO6 and I'll test the hell out of it and review it!
They don’t seem to have any offerings for the k-series transmissions. I’m in the market for a new clutch for k-swaps and this promises a lot for the money.
Can we buy products from you Andrew ?
I did a quick price comparison of the Uniclutch VS a single mass flywheel and stage 1 clutch kit, and the price is significantly lower with the Uniclutch.
So, I know what I'll be putting my money towards.
This will be great for all C4 Corvettes (1989-1996) that had the ZF 6 speed with a dual mass flywheel.
Anything for fwd Sr guys?
I wonder how well the anti-rattle springs help out...
Will this fit my Civic?
they are doing 4 clutches aswel doing a off road one aswell :D
Name of the beat at the beginning, please?
I like it, but I love the feel of my unsprung clutch a whole lot better. The part about the internal dampening made me sad haha.
Heavy duty clutch for towing by my diesel truck?
yes you can machine duel mass flywheels.....
Sounds like we are moVing in the right Direction.
Not gonna lie I actually like the jingling twin plate sound 😂
So waiting for something for the barra lol.
Love the technology behind it, but not a fan of those washers spacers ect
To many areas for failures
4:05 Bzzzzt - Incorrect, many dual mass flywheels actually can be milled, rather than machined by a lathe.
Several workshops I've worked in on the Sunny Coast here use Maroochy Cylinder Heads to do this and my own personal Subaru Outback was done over 150k ago by them 👍
So what you’re saying is they can’t be machined
@@MotiveVideo depends on the semantics of 'machined', a cylinder head mill is a machine just like a brake lathe is a machine.
It's more to do with the skill of shop you take it to.
My point is that you don't always have to throw away a dual mass flywheel.
Are these doing well? I emailed them and haven't heard back
I konda like the rattle/chatter of a Twin Plate. Lets the little kids know whats up
looks like NAPA sells them here in America but don't fit the WRX/STI's
They don't have one for my 1991 R32 GTR yet. I'll wait a little longer.
and the prize for the vlutch is?
I need this to my Audi A4 1.8T but they don't make one for these cars for some reason.....
I couldn't find gtr on their website
Cleetus you here bro? Haha
Might actually be able to get a clutch for a GTIR thats twin disc and not a paddle for race use.
Love everything I heard about this.
However, I reached out to them and was told they don’t yet make a clutch for a 99 r34 gtr.
Motive, have you installed one on a skyline?
ATS carbon twin plate is my favorite option.
I wonder if these clutch assemblies will handle 7000 plus RPM and fully release to change gears? Many diaphragm clutches will stick to the floor at high RPM and that is not good.
Watch the video of it in our Z
Would be nice to see these offered in the air cooled Porsche 911’s and 930’s
What's annoying is buying from an Australian company in Australia and having to pay in USD.
They dont make it for rb26dett...no matter the year i put its only 2.0L or 2.5L. Sad..
So will we see one in the gtr?
The Z
@@MotiveVideo How has this clutch held up in the z?
I just brought the sports 1100bucks not bad well I'll see how this goes in my ss
How has it gone for you so far? ive just bought one yesterday for my 370GT making 750nm of torque and 554 whp
Hmm interesting…might be good option for a 500kw RB30
My skyline has a stage 4 competition clutch from the previous owner
Real heavy clutch
Wenn I drive my daily afterwards I tend to wanna press my foot through the floor
I want
Why doesnt anyone make a twin plate kevlar clutch?
Wish I'd seen a month ago
need dart 2jz block
Give me one of these behind my drift n54. I'll destroy it one full track day 😂. Sceptical of that pressure plate and ring setup
This is the last days of the steam engine revisited again
I emailed them. Nothing for an LS7 with 580 TQ at the wheels. 😢 That's only 786 NM...
They do not have a kit for an RB26😫
A lot of added rotational inertia
500g is a “lot” ?
Let's see how they all go in your skylines bru
I wonder how the clutch dampens vibration. Where does it get the water? Vibrations are DAMPED not DAMPENED, FFS!
so essentially a motorcycle slipper clutch
That's weird that the steps in torque capacity go from 900 Nm to 1100 Nm to 2000+ Nm?
Well I think I know what I'm buying when mine explodes on the dyno next...😂