I've seen lots of geniuses here saying that Ricci is not talented enough for a world class violinist, but someday they'll learn that playing with personality is more valuable than playing like the piece it's just a sheet music, thanks for sharing your genius heart with us, Ruggiero
Sublimely angelic, transcendental...and yet utterly diabolical at the same time. What multidimensional sounds and layering Ricci was able to bring out from that instrument...it looks as if he is bringing this up literally out of thin air; effortless.
Wise music appreciators know that when someone says a performance/piece is good, believe them. People who think it is bad when others see it as excellent just don't understand or aren't able to appreciate. Believe me, this is an amazing performance by Ricci. Differentiate between the crappy recording/big reverb and the performance.
Probably the finest PERFORMANCE I've ever heard of this piece - and probably the finest I'll ever hear. This must be about the most difficult piece in the whole violin repertoire.
@@sherom You don't have to be able to play the music to critique it, also how is it an achievement to just have two takes if they are horrible. Ricci is past his prime in this video, no shame in that, but to say it is a great interpretation is just delusional.
Never said it was a great interpretation. I would rather listen to a recording less than perfect, knowing it was recorded almost as a live performance, than a recording that has been spliced and edited to sound perfect, I gather you prefer listening to an illusion, god bless the sound engineers for what they can do. To the average listener, and especially a Ricci fan, they can't detect this is not Ricci at his best, it takes people like you to point out the flaws. Heifetz once said 90 percent of the people who come and see me play, come to see me make a mistake, you are one of the 90 percent.
@cornel999 This is a live performance (in contrast to many of the early recordings) and is certainly not mush. Ricci was a renowned master of this repertoire when very few other violinists could touch it.
These judgements are always very subjective, but perhaps you should name them so I can see who you have in mind. That is a pretty incredible assertion, as Ricci was universally recognized as a master in this repertoire. I have heard Ricci in concert and found his playing to be truly riveting. Of course there are other great violinists like Milstein, Kogan, etc., but Ricci had the greatest repertoire, including the most Paganini.
It's a bit hard to tell since the video and audio are both awful, but yes, those look like Kim harmonics! It's easier to tell if you put the video on .25x speed.
Yes they do sound like forced harmonics Must be a technique Kim saw from Ricci. Kavakos also uses it in his Nel Cor live recording 20+ years ago at 3 minutes 51 seconds. Maybe he picked it up from Ricci too
I agree with you that this was not perfect, but then again, this recording was pretty bad. And then the acoustics were too much where it made the sound quality even worse.
Oh well...Mr. Ricci is in his late 60’s in this video. We all grow old...and become past our prime. But in his “Prime,” not even Kogan could match him in virtuosity & originality. Just listen to his early recordings or his Carnegie Hall Recital from the 40’s. P.S. I’m a big fan of Kogan’s too.
"Ricci" is a long story; i've been a big fan since the early 70's, seen him many times in public, very familiar with his career. we have to face facts - he did not maintain his technique, he "coasted" on his talent, and his playing just got worse and worse beginning in the 70's to where we have videos like this, where he's old, just doesn't give a damn, and slops through things. any attempt to claim this is great playing is just ignoring reality. may as well claim climate change is a hoax. it's a shame, since he is one of the all time great talents. his recordings from the 40's and 50's are just mind-blowing, like the "A Paganini Recital" album.
All his life, young or old, Ricci played Paganini ( and many others) in his own way, not prudent nor wise, taking all risks, maybe never perfect, but always astonishing, as Paganini must be...I love him , he was unique.
Ernesto Ruben Olivera Si, hombre, superada por su propia version, que tengo yo en un disco 33v de DECCA LXT 2808 del ano 1956, creo, que se llama "A Paganini Recital", con Louis Persinger al piano.
+sergiox51 No amigo, porque no sé hacer cosas asi. No tengo ni tocadiscos esos dias. Tengo total cuatro discos 33 vpm de Ruggiero, de los anos 50 en DECCA. Si vives cerca de Toulouse Francia, te los presto.
+sergiox51 Pues bùscatelos en el pais donde vives : los otros tres discos DECCA 33 vpm que tengo son : LXT 2930 Danzas Espanolas Sarasate, LXT 5569 24 Caprices Paganini, LXT 5595 Solo Recital Prokofiev etc. Los cuatro discos son sensacionales, de coleccion. Y hay otros tambien, creo! En que pais vives? Soy inglés (jaja tambien!).
Please name them! These judgements are always subjective but Ricci was universally recognized as an expert in this field, although it is not widely known that he had the widest repertoire of any violinist. Milstein, Kogan and others were great too, but take nothing away from Ricci. I note that in your blog you state that Shlomo Mintz's fine performance of the Brahms concerto "sounds like sawing wood".Perhaps because he is jewish?
That is what I truly believe makes this recording all the more ethereal, otherworldly...transcendetal!! The harmonic language and the colours Paganini intended are drawn out all the more because of the over-intoxicating acoustics...for me, it is truly above and beyond!
seriously 1985... filmed with the first smartphone that had still to be invented or what? Even the '50s recordings have a better quality of both video and sound. It's a shame for such performance
Yeah it’s a shame because some musical ideas are good, and as someone else said he stayed successful from his fame as a young prodigy but didn’t keep it up. But it’s weird because he clearly dedicated time to preparing for this performance, and it makes you wonder how much violinists have been influenced by masters like this who for lack of a better word, bullshitted their way into impressing the audience on stage because TH-cam didn’t exist. Like violinists always have taken what they can get, but like I wonder how ricci himself felt about his playing or to performance after it happened. I still like the performance though, and for the ending he goes nuts😂
@violinoamore not so much that it's out of tune, it's that he's not even trying to get all the notes; he's just going for "effect". i enjoy playing "on the edge", but it's just mush if you're not getting at least most of the notes. yes, his early recordings are untouchable, though. the "A Paganini Recital" album with Louis Persinger just makes your jaw drop, including Nel Cor Piu.
terrible, a piece destroyed for the sake of showing off, fast, fast, just show off. See the interpretation by Ziyu He here in youtube. That is how it should be played
Have you heard Stern or Perlman on an off day. Get a life! I would much rather hear Ricci play past his prime with a few wrong notes then hear a totally uninspired perfect performance with no imagination. I think we are very lucky to have these recordings! I’m curious how you would criticize a violinist such as Kreisler. 😉
@@Gallipoli717 Funnily enough geniuses like Kreisler or Enescu would be discarded in a first round of any competition today. So the world flooded with the Chens, Lings etc…a very sad state of affairs
@@merlindavids Yep. I own many hundreds of violin recordings ,and with the exception of Miss Chung I have no recordings of oriental players. Am totally sick of seeing the boring ling thing in youtube comments.
I've seen lots of geniuses here saying that Ricci is not talented enough for a world class violinist, but someday they'll learn that playing with personality is more valuable than playing like the piece it's just a sheet music, thanks for sharing your genius heart with us, Ruggiero
Amen to that!!! The magic of Mr Ricci is the big picture...something most violinists don’t get. 😉
Playing Paganini the way Ricci did was absolutely unparalleled. His left-hand pizzicato was distinctively inimitable.
Sublimely angelic, transcendental...and yet utterly diabolical at the same time. What multidimensional sounds and layering Ricci was able to bring out from that instrument...it looks as if he is bringing this up literally out of thin air; effortless.
Brillant interpretation! What a great artist! Bravo!
Thank you for sharing.
Incredible!
Wow...I thought that leonid Kogan was the best interpreter of Paganini but after Ricci s recording ,I must change that appraisal. Thanks for sharing
Sloppy playing compared to Kogan and out of tune...
Maybe you can play better?
Thank you Ruggiero Ricci!!! That is amazing, great and beautiful!! Wow!
Wise music appreciators know that when someone says a performance/piece is good, believe them. People who think it is bad when others see it as excellent just don't understand or aren't able to appreciate. Believe me, this is an amazing performance by Ricci. Differentiate between the crappy recording/big reverb and the performance.
His functioning on the violin is magnificent, and he plays this with daring, confidence and security.
Probably the finest PERFORMANCE I've ever heard of this piece - and probably the finest I'll ever hear. This must be about the most difficult piece in the whole violin repertoire.
I think, God save the King is even more difficult. But only my humble opinion.
Just incredible....in the edge and all soul
Mr.Ricci with his Italian origin understood perfectly what Ole Bull said once about
Paganini.
To all the know it all's...Ricci had very little editing done on his recordings, one or two takes and that was it..!
well it is undeniably so out of tune and sloppy
@@robergarcia11 Could you play it any better ??
@@sherom You don't have to be able to play the music to critique it, also how is it an achievement to just have two takes if they are horrible. Ricci is past his prime in this video, no shame in that, but to say it is a great interpretation is just delusional.
Never said it was a great interpretation. I would rather listen to a recording less than perfect, knowing it was recorded almost as a live performance, than a recording that has been spliced and edited to sound perfect, I gather you prefer listening to an illusion, god bless the sound engineers for what they can do. To the average listener, and especially a Ricci fan, they can't detect this is not Ricci at his best, it takes people like you to point out the flaws. Heifetz once said 90 percent of the people who come and see me play, come to see me make a mistake, you are one of the 90 percent.
incredible !
Insuperable
la verdad es que me quedo realmente impresionado con este concierto!!!!! este ya no es humano!!!!! dios quisiera tocar como el!!!!!
@cornel999 This is a live performance (in contrast to many of the early recordings) and is certainly not mush. Ricci was a renowned master of this repertoire when very few other violinists could touch it.
unsurpassable bravura!!!!
It's a pity that you don't appreciate possibly the greatest interpreter of Paganini in the modern age. Sadly he died a few days ago, aged 94!
his fiddle sounds like a canon. but its the Gibson. BIG!!!
These judgements are always very subjective, but perhaps you should name them so I can see who you have in mind. That is a pretty incredible assertion, as Ricci was universally recognized as a master in this repertoire. I have heard Ricci in concert and found his playing to be truly riveting. Of course there are other great violinists like Milstein, Kogan, etc., but Ricci had the greatest repertoire, including the most Paganini.
Magition!!!
美声ですねー
Listen to Ricci 1954 please
8:44 are these Kim harmonics?
It's a bit hard to tell since the video and audio are both awful, but yes, those look like Kim harmonics! It's easier to tell if you put the video on .25x speed.
Yes they do sound like forced harmonics
Must be a technique Kim saw from Ricci. Kavakos also uses it in his Nel Cor live recording 20+ years ago at 3 minutes 51 seconds. Maybe he picked it up from Ricci too
Also uses them at 8:39-8:40
Forced harmonics at 8:39-8:40 and 8:44 in 1985!
I like the ricci playing, but this was so bad lol
for me, kogan is the best. playing it
i think Kavakos playing is very good too
I agree with you that this was not perfect, but then again, this recording was pretty bad. And then the acoustics were too much where it made the sound quality even worse.
Oh well...Mr. Ricci is in his late 60’s in this video. We all grow old...and become past our prime. But in his “Prime,” not even Kogan could match him in virtuosity & originality. Just listen to his early recordings or his Carnegie Hall Recital from the 40’s.
P.S. I’m a big fan of Kogan’s too.
@carloslaran I think the very first step in "virtuosity" is to play the right notes in tune ...
Dmitri Makhtin has my favorite recording of this
"Ricci" is a long story; i've been a big fan since the early 70's, seen him many times in public, very familiar with his career. we have to face facts - he did not maintain his technique, he "coasted" on his talent, and his playing just got worse and worse beginning in the 70's to where we have videos like this, where he's old, just doesn't give a damn, and slops through things. any attempt to claim this is great playing is just ignoring reality. may as well claim climate change is a hoax. it's a shame, since he is one of the all time great talents. his recordings from the 40's and 50's are just mind-blowing, like the "A Paganini Recital" album.
So many haters here, in this video ricci is 67 years old. SIXTY SEVEN!
All his life, young or old, Ricci played Paganini ( and many others) in his own way, not prudent nor wise, taking all risks, maybe never perfect, but always astonishing, as Paganini must be...I love him , he was unique.
then retire and play this just fun but dont sell this as virtuoso recording is just terrible. yuck ...
Esta versión de Ruggiero, todavía no ha sido superada
Ernesto Ruben Olivera Si, hombre, superada por su propia version, que tengo yo en un disco 33v de DECCA LXT 2808 del ano 1956, creo, que se llama "A Paganini Recital", con Louis Persinger al piano.
+Mark harrison podrias subirlo?
+sergiox51 No amigo, porque no sé hacer cosas asi. No tengo ni tocadiscos esos dias. Tengo total cuatro discos 33 vpm de Ruggiero, de los anos 50 en DECCA. Si vives cerca de Toulouse Francia, te los presto.
Mark harrison Jaja ya me gustaria vivir en Francia pero bueno que pena que no lo puedas grabar y subir
+sergiox51 Pues bùscatelos en el pais donde vives : los otros tres discos DECCA 33 vpm que tengo son : LXT 2930 Danzas Espanolas Sarasate, LXT 5569 24 Caprices Paganini, LXT 5595 Solo Recital Prokofiev etc. Los cuatro discos son sensacionales, de coleccion. Y hay otros tambien, creo! En que pais vives? Soy inglés (jaja tambien!).
Brillante, lastima la calidad del video. Muchas gracias por compartirlo.
Me likely!
@violinoamore if your playing has a lot of virtuosity, does it even matter if you're a bit out of tune? im not sure.
Please name them! These judgements are always subjective but Ricci was universally recognized as an expert in this field, although it is not widely known that he had the widest repertoire of any violinist. Milstein, Kogan and others were great too, but take nothing away from Ricci. I note that in your blog you state that Shlomo Mintz's fine performance of the Brahms concerto "sounds like sawing wood".Perhaps because he is jewish?
@violinoamore When playing this virtuoso music it is rare to be entirely note perfect.
Your critcisms are entirely unwarranted!
The devil’s eco
Love Ricci but this has too much echo.
That is what I truly believe makes this recording all the more ethereal, otherworldly...transcendetal!! The harmonic language and the colours Paganini intended are drawn out all the more because of the over-intoxicating acoustics...for me, it is truly above and beyond!
paradise and hell madame ciobanu
The comments on how good this recording is makes me feel a LOT better about preforming in public.
You don't like this piece anyway, so why bother to comment on it!
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seriously 1985... filmed with the first smartphone that had still to be invented or what? Even the '50s recordings have a better quality of both video and sound. It's a shame for such performance
safa
What if we compare this with let's say, Hillary Hahn?
gp vs Lets not please. Utterly different generation and style of approach.
bruh i hate this recording so much tbh, imo its pretty bad
Yeah it’s a shame because some musical ideas are good, and as someone else said he stayed successful from his fame as a young prodigy but didn’t keep it up. But it’s weird because he clearly dedicated time to preparing for this performance, and it makes you wonder how much violinists have been influenced by masters like this who for lack of a better word, bullshitted their way into impressing the audience on stage because TH-cam didn’t exist. Like violinists always have taken what they can get, but like I wonder how ricci himself felt about his playing or to performance after it happened.
I still like the performance though, and for the ending he goes nuts😂
@violinoamore not so much that it's out of tune, it's that he's not even trying to get all the notes; he's just going for "effect". i enjoy playing "on the edge", but it's just mush if you're not getting at least most of the notes. yes, his early recordings are untouchable, though. the "A Paganini Recital" album with Louis Persinger just makes your jaw drop, including Nel Cor Piu.
Very fast ... but unfortunately also quite out of tune at many places ...
It’s because he is 67!
terrible, a piece destroyed for the sake of showing off, fast, fast, just show off. See the interpretation by Ziyu He here in youtube. That is how it should be played
Wow, awful, just awful...he has no intonation at all sometimes...and WAY too fast...
He is definitely the worst of all famous violinists. Bad intonation, many notes not played and so on...
Have you heard Stern or Perlman on an off day. Get a life! I would much rather hear Ricci play past his prime with a few wrong notes then hear a totally uninspired perfect performance with no imagination. I think we are very lucky to have these recordings! I’m curious how you would criticize a violinist such as Kreisler. 😉
@@Gallipoli717 Funnily enough geniuses like Kreisler or Enescu would be discarded in a first round of any competition today. So the world flooded with the Chens, Lings etc…a very sad state of affairs
@@merlindavids Yep. I own many hundreds of violin recordings ,and with the exception of Miss Chung I have no recordings of oriental players. Am totally sick of seeing the boring ling thing in youtube comments.
eres muy ignorante de la musica y el violin enfermo mental