Command and Conquer Remastered Online Multiplayer: GDI Pro Gameplay
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 29 ก.ย. 2024
- Another two online multiplayer games featuring GDI on Command and Conquer Remastered. Well calling myself a pro on this game is a little too much of a stretch since I'm still learning it, but I get by rather well - except when APC/apache cheesers (too many of them on ladder unfortunately) do their thing. Credit goes to DK GDI for the tactics used in the first game; he owned me hard and I thought whoa I gotta use that!
Purchase and play Command and Conquer Remastered from Steam or Origin (I recommend the former).
P.S. Sorry for the Hell March loop - forgot to add tracks to the jukebox.
It's so awesome that they have multiplayer on this again! I remember my dad and his friends playing this game when I was younger and I would just sit and watch but be allowed to play the campaign when my dad wasn't playing. When I was in high school I played generals in Lan with my dad and his friend and son. 3v1 them and won! Command and conquer games were my all time favorite games, and I'm super pumped to be able to play it again and with online multiplayer! I hope the multiplayer sticks around for a while!
"luck, big luck"
answer of the pro player: "ok"
Maybe he meant to say that the pro player is just lucky that he plays against such a noob.
That's just zero skill but pure chance.
@300096586 same to me in game "Kohan - immortal"
@@CirbyWeh Blue didn't even use his buggies as fodder to protect his light tanks.
no big luck, big cock
Nice play! Any general tips for someone who's never played the multiplayer before?
GIVE US MORE OF YOUR SECRETS!
Little slower gameplay then RA1 but more fun to watch! In RA1 multiplayer EVERYONE only use tank... Her they use both :) good game!
Can we play online with other player ?
you are so stressed, you click everywhere in the dark zone mdr
Wonder if generals will be next??
generals will never come back in this pc woke world we live in now
@@SlavesWereGood I agree with you. It's a shame that it's come to this!
cnc fan here too subscribed :)
which game is more balanced? I feel that the Soviets are broken?
They kinda are until you realize the Allies Chronosphere can be used to teleport MCVs into your opponents bases to build a barracks to make thieves to steal money and engineers to sabotage/capture their buildings. Lol
soviet's is broken if you all do is build tanks and bumrush your opponent
Not unless you go germany and spam light tanks
Nah, only too players that don't know how to use the 'Q' key. Light Tanks will often beat Heavy Tanks with Q key micro in the early stages of the game due to their speed causing all Heavy Tank cannon shells to miss. That's just one-on-one, now consider they are cheaper and they build faster.
Once you reach the later stages of the game, and there is enough tanks on the field that even shells that miss their target will hit something and do their full damage, Heavy Tanks compare much more nicely, but at this point Allies will have other tricks up their sleeve like Chrono MCVs/Thief Spam/Gap Generator/Naval Dominance to help keep the playing field level.
Very often the Allies are the superior faction in many maps, though some maps favour the Soviets. It’s tempting to say the Soviets are better because of better tanks and structures, but how to win if while in the process of making them, the Allied tiny units are swarming your base?
The second game... If he attacked you at the beginning directly than he will win this game... But he waited to much and lost to much time...
I've got a union card
Does making two barracks produce units faster?
yes
4:12 Unit Rea-
Luck??? XD that skill
I don't like most fan made maps, too heavy on resources to suit nod especially, in the earlier games all MP games were boring and predictable and over in 5-10 mins when playing against NOD i don't think anyone can be called pro by spamming bikes on a heavy resource map.
To my limited knowledge none of the maps on ladder are custom maps, and I’ll agree with the spamming bit but only as far as Remastered is concerned, simply because unit queues remove the need to master the essential skill of fast clicking
@@TheCNCChannelBut even with unit queuing, you are limited to what is buildable by your funds, if you queue 10 bikes with enough money for them then they build quick, but early game there is not much money around so it should give GDI players more time to defend against such a rush unless you start with loads of money and have vast amounts of resources right next to your base .
start with 10k Build PP, Barracks, 2 refineries and airstrip/WF 300, 300. 6,000 build 6-7 bikes then you run out of cash. GDI should be able to defend that rush by then. Old games/CnCnet and custom maps loads of Tiberian start with loads of money and build build build, Spam, Spam Spam.
Draw2358 it’s not about the money but fast clicking: you can win simply by producing more and that means clicking on the bike icon the moment the previous bike is ready. Too often, players spend too much time clicking on the battlefield till they forget to produce, so it takes a lot of practice and muscle memory to alternate between battlefield and sidebar consistently. I was able to beat 98% of TD players back on CncNet purely because of this even though I’m mainly an RA player.
Draw2358 as for bike rushes, they can easily be defended by lots of grenadiers at the start. But if the map has small Tiberium patches scattered around the place then the game heavily favors nod cos the bikes just zoom past the nades and target the harvs
this game, was an eye opener in a bad sense as one of my first online multiplayer experiences back in the day. because i played in a very different style against the ai, that didnt work in multiplayer. after realising, that you can only compete if you use all the shortcuts in the game and spam infantry attacks right at the beginning, i lost interest fast. i was used to and liked matches that take an hour, with base building and defense building. it always felt like: in MP, 80% of all the units and buildings are wortless, because its better and more effective, to just spam everything thats cheap to build
if you sense a rush try to build turrets and counter units beforehand, while preparing a sneak attack yourself, i think engineer in an ifv is a good one
Man, hearing RA1 music playing to a TD game is a trip.
Good wins, by the way.
Hearing anything other than Act on Instinct in C&C1 is weird for me lol
@@TAKESHIRONORIMITSU I'm a "Just do it!" Song guy myself. Especially when it comes to missions that start with a commando.
@@tylercolby1426 "No mercy" ftw
Anything other original TD ost dosent fit the game, not even RA ost. :)
The enemy dude doesn't even bother trying to crush the infantry by tank.
To be fair, Tiberium Dawn tank crushing is kinda hard, gets way easier in Red Alert though because for some reason tanks are a lot faster.
@@Kolt461
a light tank horde is so easy to use to crush inf in RA1
super fast and good vs tanks too
In Tiberian Dawn even Light Tanks move at a snail's pace compared to their RA1 counterparts.
@@SoldierOfFate
Yup they get like 10x faster.
Td light tanks are slower than ra1 mammoths
"bIG LuCk"
So will the Sea of Grenadiers stop a Nod Buggy/Bike rush?
Also was that last guy Mike Pence in disguise!?
There are many Pence’s around so guessing from his style of writing, he probably isn’t him lol. Grenadiers are effective in fighting off bikes and buggies but the latter can simply just zoom past them to kill of Harvs
@@TheCNCChannel Why didn't they build light tanks to counter your tanks which you where been built to over come the buggies?
@@grlmgor Light Tanks aren't very effective in general for their cost. Their biggest weakness is that they aren't any faster than Medium Tanks but at the same time have less firepower and armor.
@@SoldierOfFate Use buggies as fodder to take the hits and to block the med tanks
Thanks for playing GDI! I feel like everyone plays Nod in TD.
Are NOD stronger in multiplayer?
@@Impersonal66 they're better at spamming units and rushing which is what everyone likes to do
@@mcdonkey500 It's SUPER hard to stop a mass buggy + bike army once it gains momentum, also there's 4 chopper cheese. It's been a battle figuring out how to stop those. I'm going high aggression against Nod from the start.
@@Ole_Rasmussen Most of it comes from assumption, guessing, experience and having good knowledge of the map. plus keeping a general control on the formation of your slow GDI units and harvesters being more squishy, slower and spend a lot of time out in the field than RA ones. Nod also get faster production time due to cheaper units reaching critical mass much sooner than GDI, you cant deny the game is very favoring nod but you can win as GDI, it just take real patience and skill to beat nod as them. It always comes down if the GDI player can use the durability of his medium tanks and the firepower of their infantry built in early game to outcost Nod and then once reached critical mass it can initiate the push which can be hardly defended against.
@@Reialine word
Very nice strats.
I noticed that forced squishing was seemingly unused, was that intentional/agreed upon beforehand?
I did squish his units at the end of game 1
When a veteran player sells their conyard, that's when you should be VERY afraid.
Man that second battle had me on edge, it gave me flashbacks to that time you Ranger spammed in Red Alert 1 albeit now on the receiving end.
But y'pulled through by sheer grit, and that was one hella stand. Nice work!
Yes the battle against nod shows his good experience vs them, the grenadier split to prevent chain reaction and block pathings for the buggies and possible bike potential rushing asuming he wont go air. Keeping the tanks in a nice choke that can guard the harvesters, you can tell the experience he has playing GDI by just this match.
"UNABLE TO COMPLY, BUILDING IN PROGRESS!"
Luck. Big Luck. 😁🤣
Any red alert remastered content soon? :)
I’ll try to upload speedrun missions every 3 days. I’ve played a little RA but the online games aren’t interesting enough to upload but I’ll try to get something up soon
@@TheCNCChannel no competition left, huh? :D
No I haven’t touched RA that much. There’s a very vibrant competitive scene on the ladder so I’ll have to play someday
@@TheCNCChannel spam 1 unit move around a lot and u win lol
the legends returns! and now in hd! gg
the mike pence vibes are real
Plenty of similar characters online actually
definitely was luck involved.
the luck of the algorithm placing a nobody against a legend like RC.
I mean all that works but 1v1s almost never make it to nuclear level. someone always rapes it.. lmao, which i guess is the whole idea so.. hahaha
Big luck... lol he got fucking outplayed so hard after also playing really well. That CC sell so early in the fight, such a brilliant call. Ballzy AF. WP!
A good ol' fashioned "howdy everyone". God brought forth all. His son, Jesus, died to pardon all. Breathe oxygen.
Still loking for Tiberian Dawn HARD speedrun. :D Btw. if u dont have any tracks on jukebox, it will play all tracks. Just check what game ost it should play, down left side of jukebox.
Please play C&C 80's Mix, RC!
Why is this game still popular though.. i think generals zero hour has the best variety of gameplay and tactics
Luck!? that guy could stop you on choke point in his base easily. But he continue make buggies after you start pushing mid tanks from factory.
Nothing lucky about that. Blue didnt now how to zerg. The whole point is to get the numbers advantage and blue was doing well until he split them up and got destroyed piecemeal.
Gotta nice lawsuit they never paid me for my injury while at work I tore my shoulder and hurt my back and they refused injury or sick pay
But if you don't build some rocket squad in the beginning of the game, you might get air rushed by Nod?
I don't understand selling the construction yard. Makes no sense. No pro there
this old games has always been a war of economy, early game consist on outcosting the enemy, like you see while nod is generally a better faction he did lose a ton of income by losing a ton of buggies, given Nod initially builds an army faster and GDI is only lethal once they reach critical mass on med tanks... A vulnerable point of the 1v1 is when your harvesters dont make it to keep production of med midmatch, if youre consider your forces are event then selling the conyard is a risky move but those 2500 provides you with 3 extra medtanks while the harvesters make their trip back and dont halt your production then again that is considering if you are even and they aren't going for a change in plans. It was a correct assumption from RC1985 to do it as he knew going apaches are expensive at this point and got too many grenadiers on field to go bikes either.
@@Reialine thanks for the explanation. While that makes sense and I figured that. It seems nothing about it has changed since the first time I played the game on the 31st of August 1995. If they don't patch that it looks like every game will be an easy quick cheese. How disappointing.
2nd map reminds me on tiberium Garden from cnc3
Wasn't my favourite game back then, but now I enjoy it. GG
if that is what you call a Pro gameplay,,i call those type of clowns ,a rushers and base rapers.I hate those type of players
I really miss your content.. I often wonder how damn good you would be if the lag wasn't so damn bad
Thats not progaming ... He is just Quick as selecting Bildings. But easy to defend
I got discriminated against at work for being gay and was forced to quit because of harassment
im glad i found you and your videos man, they helped me become a better player today i won 5 1v1's in a row all thanks to you RC!! i may not be good but i know how to Q tanks around and thats gives me wins :D
Glad I helped! :) About Q - it’s very difficult to do it on remastered ladder because it’s too laggy
@@TheCNCChannel I am not a MP-player much, what is Q-ing ?
Pro tip, use Alt to move tank on top of enemy units
quick question, why grenaders over rocket infantry in that second game? Would the rocket infantry be too slow against the buggies? Or too expensive?
grenadiers are good against infantry and armor, rockets not so - in case his opponent had actually switched his strat up to suit and not just 100% light vehicles until loss lol
luck
are you going to go through the remastered campaign at all?
Check my speedrun Playlists. I’ll try to upload a mission every 3 days
I first played C&C when I was but a little lad and my mom would take me to Blockbuster video each weekend and let me rent a game. There was like only one copy of C&C for the PS1 but when it wasn't checked out my mom would let me rent it. Anyway, I don't know why I told that story as the intent of this comment was that, since I had played this game on console only and had no multiplayer experience, I had no idea strategically selling buildings was a thing. Like, it would have never occurred to me to sell off my Construction Yard basically ever, and never ever if I was in the lead.
Also: I was under the impression from the classic model Light Tanks were supposed to be Bradley IFVs. But in Remastered they look like Soviet T64s or T72s. Whatcha guys think? If they were older Soviet tanks that'd make sense for NOD, since such tanks proliferated all over the world and are available to such groups and Bradleys, an American IFV that was only 15 years old in the mid-nineties (which is indeed pretty modern when it comes to tank and aircraft lifespans) would not be available to terrorists. But what about Red Alert; the Allies have the same Light Tanks and it would make no sense for NATO to be manufacturing Soviet tanks.
on 2:15 i was thinking, oh heck, why he is not quitting? and the video is still long? then figured that are multiple fights lol
the title should be: i played against idiots
I couldn't believe seeing you sell the command center in game 2 like, omg no... but it didn't matter because you flipped the table on blue. Taught me something, for sure!
I was head bangin the entire video I swear
Good games, but no pro games tho.
How can you run on tiberium without loosing health, did you turn it off?
Good question
I've been looking forward to this!
Surely the rocket trooper is better against those buggies than grenadiers?
to expensive and die easily
Why so big latency?
Lmao sorry but "pro" is whole another level, you need to micro your units Waaaay better, scattering them more often don't chunk them up so often,
They are good games and fun people getting salty >:D
Affirmative sir! What’s your username on remastered, hook me up and we 1v1 some time :)
@@TheCNCChannel i'm by no means a professional, but i do watch a lot especially in Starcraft2.
I know how it is suppose to be done, i used to play sc Bw, Wc3, sc2, Cncnet, Ra2, and openRA online in "pro" scenes but i'd never made it as a professional.
i haven't played anything pro after 2011 but i do watch a lot tournament/events replays, i've played with tons of pros i've been Grand Master couple of years back on sc2 but its a grind and i don't have the time anymore.
i mostly play for fun nowadays i don't think i would be a challenge, during gameplay its much harder to think straight because you need to focus on micro while you have muscle memory in macro and focusing on countering key units and building them asap.
I just noticed on the gameplay you uploaded that the micro was to be fairly honest nearly completely forgotten, clumps of grenadiers got wiped out and was very cost efficient for your opponent to deal with if they were spread out he'd have a much harder time to deal with them and that is the difficult part of separating a good player to Pro player. and that makes a world of difference.
You are very very fast.
Glad to see we got some quick command and conquer players.
The name's Luck, Big Luck
Why build 2 barracks? I thought they didnt introduce faster unit production till RA2?
I’m not sure why, but the computer voice reminds me of Gina from Brooklyn 99
awesome playing!
Dude, what are you ? Korean ?
POOR m3 GUY GOT OWNED AHHAA
Maaaate, you're spanking people online and i can't even beat the campaign on normal 😂😂
100% win
Do u think the game is better with or without fog of war?
Well no fog of war is more of the authenthic experience, as fog of war was seen as a Warcraft feature mostly back when C&C and Warcraft were two rivalling PvP RTS games. Then again C&C is a whole different experience when it comes to 1v1 or team fights. Team fights is when you see variety but slow games, and 1v1 is usually a competition of cheese armwrestling until who of the two does it better than the other, you won't see much variety but rather who can micro/macro better due to the match usually ending before the high tech specialist units emerge, a meta looming in TD, RA1 and RA2, but not in TS, TW and RA3. Can't say much about Dune series games as I wasn't active on those ones.
does c&c have the dumb q move thing from red alert?
Can someone explain why no one bother to build rocket soldiers?
That end thao
Well, you did have some luck in that second match. You correctly guessed his starting location, would have been hard to keep him walled in had you not. But also, your opponent didn't build Bikes, so yeh of course Meds were gonna crush him lol.
Curious, you don't start off with Rocket Soldiers. So what do you do if Nod Apache rushes and takes out your Con Yard just before/as you finish getting the Weapon Factory up, and are still on a single Refinery? Just take it on the chin and concede?
There was no guessing of location iirc, there are only four corners/locations and the moment your scout dies you know he’s there. The proper build to counter early Apache rushes is to make lots of rockets but if the enemy doesn’t do that then you’re at a serious disadvantage. In fact at least half of my losses on ladder come from Apache/APC cheesing so they should fix that by removing any starting units apart from the MCV (the norm in competitive matches).
@@TheCNCChannel Yeah. That's sort of what I thought. It's kinda a big balance problem if correctly guessing your opponents strategy in the first 20 seconds of the game is neccessary to have any real chance of winning.
I've been playing random, but if I'm unlucky enough to get GDI, I have to get some Rockets first incase he Apache cheeses me, but like you said it leaves me weak against everything else.
The Apache cheese (to actually give GDI time to adapt their BO if they scout well) could probably just be fixed by making the Helipad either not include the helicopter, or making the helipad actually take as long to build as the individual helicopters do.
I agree with you on the starting units. Was never a CnCNet player, only ever played the original online, and the remaster is true to the original, but the game would be more balanced without the starting units. In RA in particular the value of the starting units between sides is not even close to comparable.
@@KotCR Apache rush can be countered reasonably well with Orcas. I think a lot of newer players have realised Orcas do Air to Air effectively. Question is whether you can scout the Apache rush before it arrives. I prefer the Orca counter to rocket troops because you can quickly counter-attack if you're able to take out the first wave of Apaches.
@@davidgielty9914 What, has this changed in the remaster? In the original game, air-to-air was not possible. The game engine still didn't support it even in Red Alert 2 (three games of engine upgrades beyond this).
Even if it did work, Orca rush would leave you wide open to Bike or even infantry spam. That'd be okay for balance if it was a risk/reward offensive strat, but if you are only doing it as a defensive strat to attempt to stop a Nod build that's not possible to scout early enough and just have to guess is coming, that's not really fair.
@@KotCR I think Orcas were air to air originally, although I'm thinking back to 8 year old me so not a reliable narrator! It definitely works in remastered.
I tend to play reactively, so trying to scout the enemy base and see what they're up to. I think it's possible to build 3 orcas in the time it takes from scouting a Nod helipad to them arriving at my base. I agree a pure orca rush is not good, but hopefully the enemy will have spent too much cash on 4 Apaches, leaving their base with no air defences.
Another good counter to Nod spam rush is engineers. You can build:
Power plant
Barracks - 5 infantry and 2 Engineers
Helipad - Transporter
Refinery
Comms station
Advanced guard tower
And then hit an undefended building with the engineers and drop the guard tower. The tower can destroy an airstrip quickly. It's incredibly annoying, which is the aim of the game.
Thanks... 86
BIG LUCK ROFL
luck
big luck
btw how are a couple clicks queuing so many grenadiers? theres like 49 with 5 clicks ect
hold Left SHIFT as you click on the unit or Left Shift+Hotkey, and it will build 5 per click
Konstruktion abgeschlossen
big luck
apache cheesers lol
Firebird
I never seem to find people to play with or V on the orginal
Is mass buggies a valid strat?
oh yeah
Mike, was that you?🤣🤣🤣
Lol
How do you counter mass recon bike and nod buggy as a GDI?
you barely can sometimes with grenade units or early con rush
Pro? People get paid to play CnC??
Do some 2v2 and bigger maps please
Great defense on the 2nd game!
finally some remastered TD action
O’ LOYAL APOSTLE
So are the two sides really balanced ?
The general consensus is Nod is the ‘better’ faction overall. it probably takes more skill to play GDI so if you own with GDI you’re really pro
- tiptop._! -
to place an MCV push the ^ button
I guess I’m so used to my old habits lol
Grenadiers are like walking bombs for both sides :/
I loved the fireworks display
lol
those grenadiers got rekt
Great work
Why did you sell your construction yard?
It provides a quick influx of cash. It’s useful if you think you just need one final push to finish off your opponent.
sudden boost in cash... usually if done at the right momment (when the enemy has similar forces) it changes the tide of war
@@SamHalen5150 i see. I thought that was risky. I guess he can read his opponents. Awesome.
@@enchanted7076 thank u. That was risky. but i think he knows his opponent is loosing. Awesome