Monoprice M560 - Review
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You only have 1,310 subs but that production quality better than most 100k+ channels
sdlowefl Damn right !!!
34600 today :D
The reason I think you find bass better in open back mode is because you have more extension in open back mode. When you close it, you'll be creating reverbs and resonances and probably end up goofing up the Midbass which kinda bleeds into the lower ones so you'll not be able to hear the lower bass properly.
^^^ Exactly! I'm glad you explained it better.
DMS3 TV is it more enjoyable in closed back mode compared to something like hd598cs? Making a single driver perform well in different enclosures is a pretty difficult thing to pull off, even more so on a planar.
Actually yes. These sound VERY good still when closed. Its surprising how little they change.
Last question!!.. How good is the isolation?
Better than the 598CS. Actually really surprising.
MUH production quality, much well done, very cinematic camera work.
Chase Harman
Can I get your profile pic?
I like it when he tunes the photo to the headphone's sound. It took me a while to realize he does this in his reviews, but once you do, the quality of the review becomes 10x better.
I own these, both closed an open, they sound great at $200. However, they sound MILES better open. However, the closed option was done so well that there is nearly no sound leakage. The only other complaint I have with these is the metal creaks a bit at times, seemingly for no reason, and it is very loud in the headphones. Also putting on the covers is so loud if you do it when wearing them, that it will make your ears ring.
hey that's pretty goooood
one day
Your videos are fucking amazing! Hope you reach your sub goals in 2017!
Thanks! I really hope so too! Things are starting to go really well!
Do the wooden covers block enough sound for these to be considered "sealed"? How much sound do they leak?
subbed! watched a few videos, quite detailed and in-depth
josh Subet thanks! I'm glad to have you here! :)
I'm really, REALLY looking forward to the 1060's! I'll probably purchase them blind on Day 1, before any reviews are even out.
Honestly yea. Hopes are pretty high over here too. HYPE TRAIN!
doesn't seem to be on the same build quality as these... hard to decide between this vs m1060
I've been wanting the 1060s since they were announced, but I was nervous buying "Monoprice" headphones. I've been "hearing" a lot of good things about these M560s, so I'll get the 1060s as soon as they come out.
Only a month away! HYPE TRAIN!
Excellent review - thank you for posting.
Do you think this are better than the HE4XX?? This are $200 on amazon and the HE4xx are $145 on Drop.
These are no longer on the Monoprice website. :(
They're back in stock now!
Weston Adair Thanks for the notice! My pads started to wear out, and I wanted to gift my friend a pair.
Such a refreshing production when it comes to headphone reviews, hope your channel grows soon. So you think these are better than HE-400 or HE-400i?
How do the MK3's compare to the M560?
Did you end up comparing the 400i to the Monoprice?
Can't wait for the M1060 review/unboxing! :)
You and Me both!
Try changing ur anti flicker settings
Don’t have any. This was also on an OLLLLLD camera at the time.
Does this sound better than a modern Hifiman 400se
Still waiting on that M1060 review 🧓
I reviewed it 3 years ago. It was up for 2 years then I took it down.
@@DMS3TV oh thanks for responding, why is that? Sorry, new to the community haha
@@kylemcdonnell86 mostly because it was good for it’s time but isn’t really anymore. Didn’t want to lead anyone to purchase it.
@@DMS3TV ohhhh very cool, I think that's a pretty conscious thing of you to do. I was doing research on the HE4xx and was trying to see how they compared because they're a similar price on the used market. Thanks for taking the time to respond bro
I'm coming over from Liam's channel. Cool video for sure. I like all the editing. But also dope review on the headphones. I always think about what I might do if my headphones break so I might give those a try.
Sweet! Liam is a pretty mad cool dude. Glad you stopped by!
Why does everyone call these play-NARS? They're planar (planer) headphones. Just like Magnepan speakers are called plan(e)r speakers.
They are saying 'plane'ars. As in, the speakers are on a single plane. It is derived from plane, so the A is long. The pronunciation depends on region.
Love the vids man, keep it up!
Every week! : ) Thanks!
I wonder if the magnet in the caps might be affecting the overall magnetic field in such a way that could cause the reduced bass where you'd expect it to be more when closed.
They can be closed and open at the same time. Just stick a nickel between the covers and the speakers, or drill a hole in the cover. I'm not sure the covers are wood... I scored the backs of the covers so I could glue a spacer to it to keep them slightly open. When I scored them with a razer blade it looked like plastic. I think it's just textured plastic. I'm not talking about the side you see on the outside I'm talking about scoring the inside that has that wooden texture. It turned white and curled up like plastic. Not like wood at all.
i really wish the m1060's were built this well
Found you through reddit and really enjoying your videos man.
Subbed
Thanks! I'm glad to have you here : )
M560 or He-400i, like a little warmth and not overly keen on ear bleed treble, like low end but nothing that over stays or messes with mids.
Really tough. 400i wins on comfort and on highs. M560 wins on build, bass impact, and portability.
enjoyed this one, subbed.
Hope the channel grows big!
Thanks for the sub, I hope so too :)
How good of a soundstage do they have? wanted to know because I would be using these for gaming a lot. Also wanted to say the quality of this video was spectacular! keep up the good work.
Great. The sound stage is extended when open, but I actually like to game with them closed. It pulls the sound stage in and doesn't sound as immersive, but it makes directional location easier. The thing about these is, choice.
Closed they still sound good for $200, but they sound even better open. You can add a magnet under the magnet on the covers to lift the cover off the back to let some sound leak out if you want compromise.
TheGodlyVision, they are AMAZING for gaming. Seriously. I really don't know if you can get any better for gaming.
id say these are on par or even better than my LCD 2
Nice video. Thanks!
Awesome vids man! Great quality. You deserve 10x more subs than you have right now, keep it up :)
Ethan Taylor thanks! Maybe one day right? :)
Please, this or HE400i (same price, used - like new on Amazon)?
How is sound leakage with the wood cups on, could I use these in public or at an office without disturbing others?
Not bad. Not quite as isolating as a full-on factory closed can but pretty decent.
Thanks man, Can't wait to see your review on the M1060.
Hey i recently bought the momentum 2 over ear. I haven't used them a lot but i can already say that i like them 2 times better than the 598cs. You should definetly try them ;)
RedLight9600 I've actually been trying to track down a pair! Buying stuff to review is expensive :(
Do you think this is significantly better than the M50x? I'm looking for step up closed back (one that I can use at work and on the go). Thanks bro your video production is freaking good!
I wonder how these sound in comparison to the HE4XX. Somewhat similarly priced and both have good reviews.
Absolutely great video! I love your stuff and definitely look forward to future reviews! :)
Question: If you had to choose these or the HD600s as your only can, which would you choose?
that's difficult as i like the 650 much more than the 600. Honestly can't say. They are so different. Both are great choices.
What about these vs the 650?
This or dt1990 for competitive fps and very diverse music listening?
DT1990 wins in every way
@@DMS3TV Thanks, been on the fence between the 1990, 990 premium(600ohm), and some other choices that's at the sub 600$ mark. Been looking for a versatile pair that can excel in nearly all frequencies with a wide enough soundstage. Would the smsl sapii be enough to power it (dt1990) for the price?
Edit:I'm using an mtrack 2x2 as my DAC
Nice review, i got em, are they good value overall closed? are there any closed that are significantly better in this price range. also you seem like you do psychadelics
These really better that 400i's? I just ordered a set yesterday
Martyn Bassett I haven't heard the 400i, Just the 400, but yes I prefer these over the 400. Just make sure you burn them in first!
DMS3 TV oh sorry, for some reason i had it in my head that the review you did with the 650's and 700's were also with the 400i's. My bad. Good review by the way, i am a new sub but enjoying your content. Also desperate to see the m1060's.
Martyn Bassett haha all good! I'm excited about the m1060 also
So you listen to them closed?
Supposedly they sound much better open.
You should also try using a spacer between the covers and see how that impacts sound.
I listen to them both : ) this review was posted a while ago though so i don't have them anymore.
awesome video! easy subscribe. hows the sound leak with the plates on?
Austin Cristofaro actually not bad. Better than the 598cs.
Nice Review...very familiar w/ headphones, and more so with earbuds...Are there so neutral, that I will want to adjust my eq for rock, jazz metal...and then the occasional trance? I like to feel the toms and bass drums, hear the crispness of hihats and cymbals...I like a well defined sound of an upright bass....and dynamic vocals....I've had the M50s....not good for rock and jazz....too bass heavy...I want to feel all bass, not just 1oo Hz and below...what's your vibe with these....I've never owned, or had a listen to semi-open, nor open headphones....I am open to suggestions...
What would you say is the best open back headphone in the $100 range? Or would it be worth saving for the HD 6xx?
HANDS DOWN save for the 6XX. They are worth WAY more than they sell for.
Perfect. Does anyone know when they're planning on dropping again?
Probably a bit late, but 9500s are good.
You can also try Grado sr80e or sr60e
These are all good suggestions
Great video!
Having gotten a pair of these about a week ago. I definitely don't like them asa much as you and Zeos. There too "in your face" for me especially with vocals and a bit bright.
I'll take my lightly modded T50RPs over these all day, for the same of less money.
You ever run removable cable IEMs through your gauges? B^)
HEKTIK haha! I feel like that might end in disaster
Where'd the M565 review go?
Hows the sound leakage when in closed form?
Almost not there at all unless I'm really jamming loud.
In fact, I would claim that the sound leakage is too low. It pulls the sound stage too far into the head. It is good to have choice, but they sound much better open.
When M560 are closed, is there much sound difference vs. Fostek T40 or 50RP. With the Alcantara pads it's about $190.00. Thxs
I'm planning to use these on the got. Do you recommend a portable amp?
how do they compare to the Hd 598cs ?
Ali Kawtharani I would pick these over the 598cs easily. That planar sound is just significantly more immersive.
DMS3 TV can you tell me the difference between planar and normal headphones please? xd
Ali Kawtharani sure thing! Put short and simple. Planars use a large membrane and magnetic grid (instead of a coil and surround). As a result they move faster than dynamic drivers usually resulting in a tighter sound, but also usually requiring more power to drive.
DMS3 TV they are also harder to tune (or equalize), sound depends a lot on the chamber and their distortion curve is different from a dynamic driver. See rtings for measurements of any dynamic driver and some hifiman headphone and you'll understand.
Thanks!
WOO I've been waiting for this!!! FLFC
I've been really excited to post it! More videos on these on the way.
DMS3 TV if possible do a review of vsonic vsd3s. Pretty amazing Iem for the price of 50 bucks. Has some lower mid dip and slightly hot/splashy treble but otherwise amazing. And pretty good isolation. Maybe it's bigger brother gr07 as well!
Oh dang thats cheap. I'll add these to my video list thanks!
How do these compare to the M1060? Are these faster than the HD650? And do they sound the same or is there a noticable difference compared to the 650?
I'm skeptical about spending more than $100 on headphones. How do these stack up against the Brainwavz HM5 when closed?
Man this is like the Urban Gentry channel for headphones! I'm as impressed by vid production and content as you are with those cans. Keep it up
It is better than 400 but does it better than 400i .???
Are they good for mixing? Do you consider them flat/analytical?
Good review!
Thanks! More on the way!
Would love to see you do Asgard and Audio-gd that you got. I really like your production and the way you review.
Audio-GD is def on the way. I'll be sure to compare it to the asgard : )
I got these a couple of days. the features have changed. ( the clamp is way tighter, damn much) and the only tiny ears are suited for the new pads... ( did i say they suck?.. yes they suck). advice ?
hi ive not long got into portable daps amd amps im looking for my first pair of planar headphones to use will walking my dog in the park i dont no if to get the or hd 650s or the monoliths which would you suggest?
How would these compare to my Audio Technica ATH-A900x that I’ve had for years?
how they compare to the m1060?
Which sound better these or the AKG Pro Audio K702 Channel Studio Headphones?
Would you recommend these over a modded pair of M1060? I was able to pick up the M560 for ~$150 and I'm currently breaking them in, but if the M1060 are much much better I may return them.
Is it a worthy upgrade coming from a HD558?
Can you do a review fostex t50,t40,t20rp mk3?
Do you know where to find a replacement cable for these? I combed all over the internet and can't find a thing. Your help is much appreciated :)
Would you say these are better than he 400i and t50rp with 1840 pads?
Camera stare at the beginning is cringe
Hey! Can you recommend an amp? And how much sound slips in when you’re on a plane or a bus for example? Please answer :)
did they fix the m1060 yet?
if one has an option to buy a Hifiman HE400i at $250 vs these at $200, which would you recommend?
I can't speak for the 400i but I prefer the M560 over the normal HE-400. (but I prefer modhouse argon with ZMF lambskin pads over both)
How do these compare to the legendary Fostex T50RP MK3's? assuming you've tried those headphones before hah, be interesting because that's what it's competing against really in the low price planar category.
Unfortunately I haven't heard the legend, I think i found someone who's going to let me try theirs though. I may have to make a follow-up video to my follow-up video haha.
Sweet man, be good to hear your thoughts.
Are they really better than the he 400i?
How is treble on this, and how good are they for metal, gaming and rock in general.
They are 10/10 for metal. Treble is pretty solid.
Did you do a frequency response test with these?
Unfortunately this was before I had a measurement rig
Any replaceable cables?
im sure to break the cable 2-3 months in.
OMP I haven't seen any yet but there's plenty of people who make custom cables and this cable is pretty dang tough.
What do you think about these vs the Fidelio X2s?
Can't say. I haven't found a review unit yet.
Trying to choose between these and the audeze isine XD I NEED HELP AHH
Hello. You said this sound as good as my HE400. you mean He400i right ? please say it he400i
Throw the pads in the trash first.
These or he-400i ?
I'm planning on buying these but don't have a headphone amp or dac. Is there one that can drive these for around $100?
pirateriemann Fulla 2 or MDA
Thanks man. Really been enjoying your videos.
Thanks I appreciate it
may I know your cable in your HD 650,
it looks good, can't find any good cable in amazon,
thanks :D
Its just a cheap amazon cable. It broke pretty fast. I recommend cables from Ursine Audio though.
Thanks,
very much appreciated :D
Great recommendation, thank you.
why is the sound on your videos always so static'y, so many pops and clicks
It is extremely unfortunate that I came across this video and saw you mention burn-in as an actual thing that changed your headphones. You put confirmation and expectation bias into your head so hard that it changed the sound sig for you. Next, you'll say transparent amps are 'warm' or 'cold' or 'fast' or 'slow'.
I really suggest you read a few papers on AES and other actual research to get a better understanding of why 'burn-in' is a myth. Companies like Audeze do it because of consumers like you who believe this myth so much that they can satisfy a customer by doing this.
Edit - adding, I am not here to put you down, if you see around, I have actually given you advice before for the better.
I’ve actually done and published measurements showing the difference made after a driver’s surround materials has broken down with movement.
@@DMS3TV Could you direct me to the link where you did that ? And what was the sample size and how many types of burn-in tests did you try (noise/music/sine sweeps etc)
NVM, I found it and a comment in which you mentioned why you did a 100 runs and averaged it. I still feel it was pad compression or positioning.
And the sad part of the video was that you got Sean Olive's comment on that video - THE SEAN OLIVE OF HARMAN RESEARCH (Harman Audio curve ring a bell)? Who mentioned that in his controlled experimentation environment he was able to find no conclusive results on this, yet nobody noticed that comment.
If you can procure two different pairs of identically measuring headphones, then use worn pads vs new pads, then run the averaging of 10-20 runs with either pad, then publish results, it would be a well-controlled experiment.
Sorry if it seems like I am on your case, I am a researcher myself and seeing things done without proper version control and replication standards irk me.
But the brand is monoprice... has the brand that's notorious for copying successful products and branding them as their own, finally stepped up to the batting plate with decent products?
It would seem so
DMS3 TV huh... good on em.
good initial quality BUT DON'T BUY THEM .the left headphone stop working after 3 months of casual use
and Monoprice gave me the run-around on replacing. I will never buy anything from Monoprice again. don't waste your time and money. this company has major quality and customer service issues.......
you know any 200$ maximum that can do 30Hz or less ?
you should have a better mix on your audio on a audio centric channel. it was terrible all over your videos
1: this was a over a year ago. 2: this isn't my job so everything I do here comes out of my pocket. If this was my job things would definitely be different.
DMS3 TV don't get me wrong, content is awesome anyway, but the quality of the surface (like the audio and video) are not that same level. Do you have a review on ksc75? I heard on zreview channel your name, as he was reviewing them, I'd love to see your video on that. Keep up great work
Please stop with that distracting music.
Shxt Music
Take off the "closed" caps, silly.
Then you'll stop talking about the 560s lack of Soundstage and how they dont compare to HiFiman....:)
Some things are obvious, or should be, even to noobs.
Burn in!? Yeah I can't take you seriously
Okay :)
Been an industry professional long enough to know burn in is important. Most Hifi manufacturers do this in the factory so its not normally a concern for consumers. See: Audeze, Hifiman, Audio GD. Thanks for commenting!
Sorry I think I came across a bit rough. I think we can just agree to disagree with the whole burn in thing. Personally until I see real measurements and I can really understand what burn in physically is, I won't be convinced it exists. Otherwise though well done with the video. Production quality was top notch and you were able to clearly express your thoughts which I can't say about a lot of reviewers.
If you go to innerfidelity.com they have measured two pairs of akg 701's one new and one with many hours of playback time and they did measure differently.
Keep yapping all you want, everyone who has owned multiple headphones on the higher end will tell you it works in many cases (not in all)
0:08 I judge 'em by the fact that the reviewer is wearing a beanie indoors and has a stretch earpiece
Also burn-in isn't real ( so are the easter bunny and Satan Claus, sorry I ruined those for you)
skypjuh seems like poor merit to judge by ; )
Deal with it
also are the cushions on the inner side of the headband soft enough ?
I vividly remember the AKG fiasco(s)..
skypjuh burn in is something most manufacturers do during QC checks. it's been proven several times with FR graphs. But I won't lose any sleep over your opinion : ). The headband is plenty soft for me. The m1060 however is another story and could use better padding.
Ever tried picturing the way a headphones sounds while not having any specific music in mind ?
you'll fail like everyone else. You can remember a rythm or a pitch in a piece of music but auditive memory doesn't work for something that covers such a wide spectrum of sounds as a headphone.
That's why it's so hard comparing headphones..reviewers lose their perception in the time it takes to switch from one headphone to another.
In the end even if burn-in was real you couldn't remember what the headphone sounded like before because you wouldn't specifically remember anyway.
And every moment you spend adressing me is technically time you could spend sleeping so...yes you actually are losing sleep over my opinion.
Then have fun in your solitude : ) I learned plenty in my years as an audio engineer. Thanks for commenting, I appreciate it.
Might I ask how these headphones compare to more well-known brands/models, like say the Audio Technica ATH-M50x? I ask because that's what I use, and I'm wondering if these would be a upgrade. And what of their durability after 2 years?
LapinBeau m50’s are asscheeks. These r way better. Coming from someone who has both.
@@LittleH A little uncouth... but can you explain WHY they are better, please?
LapinBeau m50s sound is pretty unbalanced, it’s uncomfortable, and is completely plastic. This isn’t super comfortable out the box but it’s noticeably better. The build is way better too. They’re heavier but you don’t really feel it. The sound is more balanced for sure.
@@LittleH Hmm. I see. And what about their durability? How long have y ou had them, and how often/how many hours a day do you wear them? My M50s have lasted about 2 years so far, with them on my head at least 12 hours a day.
LapinBeau god damn. I couldn’t last more than two hours with their stock pads. I didn’t feel like changing them because they would already cost as much as something like these.