History of racism in Jamaica | Michael Manley | George Headley | Norman Manley | Noel Nethersole &
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- History of racism in Jamaica | Michael Manley | George Headley | Norman Manley | Noel Nethersole | Theodore Fairclough and more, please watch to the end for full details
A result of this history not being widely understood by the Jamaican diaspora is that we have often landed in the UK, USA, and Canada unprepared to deal with systemic racism. We hear anecdotes from Jamaican immigrants all the time where they say, " I first encountered racism when I immigrated to. . ." when all the time it was hiding in the shadows of Jamaican high society.
I experienced colour prejudice as a Brown/ Mulatto Jamaican both in America and in Jamaica by Black Jamaicans and Black and White Americans.
But this is colonial times and by definition it is racist. Colonialism was always racism and built on racism! No one ever said colonialism was never a racist time.
A little taught fact is that the same Jim Crow, Redlining tactics & Racial Hierarchy system as they had in the States was in Jamaica too..
That's why you see extreme poverty & Ghettos all over the Island, they make our Projects look like Parks..
Imagine the lifespan of an enslaved person was 7yrs literally the worst of anywhere except for Brazil which is similar..
It was that brutal..
Now people wonder why Jamaicans are so Aggressive..
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@@jamaicantillidie6626, so what was the vlogger supposed to do, not put it up? First of all, the host's name includes the word "Chronicles", and the post's title starts with the word "History". It adds to the Jamaican story. I'm over 70 and I did not know some of the facts outlined (e.g., that OT Fairclough was a banker in Haiti prior to returning to Ja). It is an informative and useful post.
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These people kids are still running the country
Out of many , we r Not One
That colour coding employees in banks in Jamaica, only ended a few years ago
When PJ was elected I went to the bank window with my high school friends because we heard they hired a black boy. This was a big deal for us kids. Before it was only fair skinned and Chinese people. It's completely different now. A similar thing at montego Bay airport lasted longer. The dark skinned people were baggage handlers only.
@@annmariebusu9924 Amazing, in a black run, independent country, mine control from the colonial days was very effective.
Racism, classism are still alive in Jamaica.
Civics must be taught because a people with no knowledge of their past will forever be suppressed even by their own.
In todays world " CIVICS" is not really taught, might be mentioned under another topic😢
You're absolutely right 😎💯👍🏾
It’s one thing to teach civics it’s another to teach the truth.
I agree wholeheartedly but as one respondent has noted it has to be the truth, every iota must be the truth…
My father told me that only light skin blacks or non-black people were allowed to work in banks and other office work in Grenada. So this type of colorism and racism were very prevalent throughout the Caribbean. Today we don't have outright racism here in Grenada but there are still special privileges given to non-black people when it comes to business opportunities. 😎💯💪🏾👍🏾
So true. Especially in the area around the Grenada medical school, they all open up businesses giving licenses to non-Grenada business owners (foreigners) opening ice cream shops, and small restaurants nearby serving halal food to profit from the American medical students.
The racism in Jamaica hasn't changed. The only thing that's changed is the sophisticated form in which it's presented today. For example, the gross façade of the motto "Out of many, one people," and the black faces placed in status positions to deceive the people into thinking the country is not controlled by descendants of slave masters and non-black foreigners.
Talk di tings nuh man! Well said
Well, well, «the gross façade of the motto "Out of many, one people"» -- True ting dat! Still, our motto being in place from 1962, I give them a bly. It was more a statement of hope and intention than one of actuality. It should have been realised by now though.
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Thank you and I also hate the motto as well
@@AckeeEater. lol! mi fren, i hear you, even though we could have a healthy discourse on your argument. Respect.
When you look at the leadership history of Black-majority Caribbean countries, you start to see why Jamaica is one of the poorest. The richest and most successful Black Caribbean countries, like the Bahamas, Barbados, Antigua, Saint Kitts, etc., all have one thing in common: They have a long history of Black leadership; even before some of them gained independence, they were under the leadership of Black people. Jamaica, on the other hand, was mostly under the leadership of non-black people, even after the country gained independence. These non-black people made themselves rich and powerful while discriminating against the Black majority. And because most Black Jamaicans are ignorant and foolish, they keep voting for people who look nothing like them, as if they have ever seen a white man working in the interest of a Black man.
Jamaica can be very racist or prejudicial! Then and still is even in schools and in communities, society at large.
I am not surprised ! Late nineteen sixties early seventies , racism was still rampant in high schools and banks !
I am not surprised, that was the time in which we were living in
God bless Michael Manley’s memory and attempscto create an inclusive national society.
Sickening considering banks existed there (and the entire Caribbean) because of slavery and the majority of citizens were Afro Caribbean.
But it's their business they could hire whomever they want, I don't sorry fi no blacks, most of them are lacadacical, I try partnership with men ja ppl, & they have no intrest, not even my children want to work with my program to build wealth, sick ppl, depending on others for their glory
The nerve of the white culture to think that they should conquer everything.
In most of the colonies, the banks were originally there to serve the white planters and plantation managers, before and after abolition.
What's even sickening that we're not going to do nothing about it but sit on our butts and complain or cry wolf smh that real
What nationality is a Afro Caribbean
Thank you so much for that piece of history.❤
Glad you enjoyed it
You are most welcome.
Very interesting.
Thanks for your interesting fact about our beautiful island of Jamaica..
It is time we know our past😢
Jamaica still have a lot of racism in 2023!
Not active racism
Lots! But, many are so blinded to see!
Especially, those ho get a "job" to feel entitled and liberated! Once they can get a loan or wear suits that's all!
I am very black and own 10 acres yet when my light skin sister came to build a house on a lot that was given to her by my coowner other sister. The whole district stop talking to me.
Absolutely 💯
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The only party that was for black people at that time was the P.P.P. Mr. Garvey's party(P.P.P.)
The PNP active for a very long time
Thanks for this documentary and information about Jamaica and blatant racism in tears before independence. Although slavery was abolished years before some of those English plantation and racists were still in charge of everything. Thanks to the efforts of a few people who were willing to stand and fight for the people and help to grow the middle class. Many Jamaicans I included migrated from Jamaica to other countries during those years, because although well educated were denied certain jobs in the banking and government sectors. This past history need to be taught in the schools.
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that was everywhere in british caribbean territories, #belize (britsh honduras) is no different from jamaica, even too this day it permeates the society, a shifting hispanic demography kinna makes it more subtle especially for black people
Jamaica would have helped matters quicker as far as socioeconomic prejudices were concerned, by going the way of Nigeria!
Nigeria gained independence from Britain in 1960, and followed that by becoming a republic in 1963 just 3 years after and cutting off all that (GovernorGeneral)ties with monarchial Britain!
That gave Nigeria the opportunity to Nigerianise or indigenise its public sector!
I believe Jamaica "enjoyed" England's status as the Mother country for far too long!
👊🏾🇳🇬👊🏾🇳🇬!
Thank God for progress and this is a good reason why the Constitution of a country is considered a living document. It can make positive changes that advance the right of a people.
Maxine Adderley, thanks for watching
@@jamaicachronicles2023 : you are welcome. We do not always agree but we can always show respect 🙏❤️
...TRUE. AND yet...it could seem the very same category economically, socially, educationally qualified for the country's leadership managed not to initiate the necessary steps for forwardment.
...EVEN later, in the 40's, 50's, 60's, 70's...STRAIGHT hair was 'the fare', LIGHT skin 'the spin'; & early 2023, a black complectioned female street vendor patronised by me -- informed of her wish to "link" with i..."becaahse mi wahn wah brown man.."! 😂
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Rasta know ina 2023!
The British Empire trained them well!
The Brown people were the Coloureds which is Mixed-race category just like in Sub Sahara Africa.
Jamaicans use the African definition of Black, not American except for the Jamaicans who watch American media 24/7 who think they are Yanks .
Thank you. Very interesting. I hope other sectors are explored as well.
Great documentary 🫶🏽🫶🏽🫶🏽🫶🏽🫶🏽My biracial friends went to Jamaica to see family I said wait and see how ppl treat you …. they said that ppl treated them differently from family to strangers . ESP her as a girl she said sometimes it was cringeworthy. Especially the colourism .
Nothing changed in changed in Jamaica because they a lot of colourism
Those with that mindset are mighty warped. Operating on a low spiritual frequency and with psychological issues.
Thanks for sharing this content, greatly appreciate it.
Glad you enjoyed it!
@@jamaicachronicles2023 it’s sad in the island how the PNP original roots and fundamental believe have greatly subsided.
@@mdashcube2476 the PNP was formed on the basis of improving the lives of the disenfranchised people of Jamaica, bur i think after Michael died the trajectory changed
@@jamaicachronicles2023 indeed; Michael Manley is best Premier to-date.
Shame on those banks.
A fi dem bank, they could hire whomever they want, we need fi open fi we own, & hire we own
Many of the shade privileged mullat and others.Were as proud as a peacock inflated with conceit,aloofness and deprecation for the ones shunned rejected and scorned.zHow despicable the lot of you
Micheal Manley is the best ever, until Jamaica have another leader like him the island will never gets better
NONSENSE. No white man is going to work in the interest of a Black man. Other Caribbean countries like the Bahamas, Barbados, Antigua etc, are more successful than Jamaica because they have a long history of Black leadership, unlike Jamaica.
And after all the primarily British did to people of color in Jamaica and else where in the Caribbean….Jamaicans of African descent flocked to the streets to “mourn” the death of racist Queen Elizabeth…who cared little if anything at all for Black Jamaicans or Africans for that matter in which Britain exerted colonial dominance…,
Jamaicans Should Know About The History Of Jamaica And Jamaica History/West Indian History Should Be Taught In Schools And Colleges
Praise be to the LORD, the system improved alot. A big thank you, to our ancestors that make it possible for meny other, including me!! Brown people came a long way, again, Praise be to the LORD, for taking us this far.. I've now loveing in the UK and to my understanding, I of to count my blessings. Thank the LORD for my Dad and my Mum, in spite of all the things they parents bin through, including our ancestors!! A big thank you to my parents to bring me up the way they do. May they soul rest in peace 2009 I lost my Mum , now 14 years later I lost my Dad 2023! Since then my life is not the same, but I will continue my journey in this life. Lots of love to my people. This is very informative.
Thanks for highlighting this bit of important and necessary history. My family, the late Donald Banks really made an impact when he was at the helm of the commercial banking sector. He was one who couldn't be bought. I loved his stories and also how down to earth he was with his staff and customers.
Glad you enjoyed it
I think that this happened through out the caribbean. In Guyana, former British Guiana the same situation prevailed. After Independence, the government of the day was able to dismantle the system. It is interesting to note that it happened in other sectors.
God bless Michael Manley I hope that his soul finds rest
I've always said for years where'er the truth is hiding, it must come out one day as God liveth.
Yes true history thank you
DID NOT MY REGGAE MUSIC SINGS ABOUT THIS YEARS AGO, AND THEN THE COLONIAL SLAVEMASTERS CHILDREN WHO STILL LIVES THERE KILLED SOME OF THE MESSENGERS WHO SPOKE THE TRUTH INCLUDING THE RASTA BRETHRENS? WE KNOW THIS FROM A LONG TIME. SO WHY IT TOOK SO LONG FOR SOME PEOPLE TO SPEAK THIS TRUTH? ALL OUR LIVES WE KNEW AND ASKED-"WHO IS REALLY RUNNING JAMAICA? WE FROM TRENCH TOWN KNEW THIS LONG AGO. JAH TIME HAS COME FOR JAMAICA. BOB MARLEY DID PUT IN SONG-"THEY SUCK THE BLOOD OF THE SUFFERERS- BABYLON SYSTEM-IS THE VAMPIRE!" REMEMBER THAT SONG?
OUR TRENCH TOWN REGGAE FOUNDATION CREW CAN TELL YOU MUCH MORE FOR THIS HAS ROOTS SO DEEP IT WILL MAKE THE EARTH SHAKE. MANY OF THE KILLINGS OF THE REGGAE MESSENGERS ARE LINKED TO CERTAIN PERSONS IN THE JAMAICAN ECHELONS WHO RUN THE COUNTRY WITH THEIR RACISM, OSTRACISM AND RACIAL PREJUDICE. TRUST THAT! WE WILL NOT DISCLOSE OUR SOURCES AND METHODS HERE.
YES! MY TRENCH TOWN REGGAE HAS BEEN SENDING THE MESSAGES TO THE PEOPLE FOR OVER 61 YEARS. WHAT HAVE WE LEARNED? MANY JAMAICANS IN THEIR DAY TO DAY SURVIVAL STRUGGLE MISSED THE MESSAGES. NOW IS THE TIME TO LET THEM KNOW TRUTH.WE COME FROM TRENCH TOWN. WE KNOW!! RACIAL PREJUDICE IS REAL.
Suffer because they want to, & they are lazy, & lackadaisical, black ppl sold us on the west to the slave masters, we are enemies amongst our selves
Ruff and tuff
Paul Richards, how was the info in this video ?
Humanity has disappointed its maker and continues to.
No,the Most High knows exactly who the oppressors are, and will root them out and destroy them in due season.
Salute to the late Great Michael Manley, May his Soul Rest In Eternal Power!!
Yep! True 👍🏾
Jamaica people has not changed still colour blinds..
Humans no good.
Wow!
Don't let them steal GUYANA from the WEST INDIES because they will try and go ahead and form THE WEST INDIAN COURT OF JUSTICE the monarchy will see us through
Thank you for the knowledge..
thanks for tuning in
UpTo this day its still going on nothing really changed
This is why so many Jamaicans are moving to Africa because Jamaica still act like it's still a colony and not a free country
Because it is.
It's the same in Africa, after effects of colonialism is not just in Jamaica
So true. Igraduated Calabar in 1968 and thats the way it was.
Same in Barbados
Wow
Interesting video
I knew that long time,
But this is colonial times and by definition it is racist. Colonialism was always racism and built on racism! No one ever said colonialism was never a racist time.
Thank you for this , i honestly didnt know that jamaica had racism just like the US ,i only knew about the racism between the jamaican black and the jamaican indian (coolie)
Funny enough, from my experience, Jamaican Indians and blacks were/are the most harmonious of the different groups.
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The Chinese were the only group that lives among black people. I grew up in the 60's and 70's the corner shops were owned mostly by Chinese? They live on top and the shop or store on the first floor.
Nothing has changed, 2024, Jamaica is still struggling with colorism. Pay attention to the Miss Jamaica 🇯🇲 pageants.
Its always exist and is still existing. Blacks, brown, lightskinned, olive skins and Cocasions. Started with the British and continued until this day. The lands were given to the (Backras) the Cocasions and the blacks were workers. What about that man who came from rural St.Andrew who wasn't accepted at JA collage and had to go to Georges instead. Passed his Senior Cambridge at 14yrs and went on to be the 24th most learnt man in the world?
Name please....
It is pretty much the same you've poor Asians and other races of people come from their Povish country and get loans to open shops in the getto and all over they are also protected from arm, but if Jamaica citizens open a shop they are not protected they are the quickest to be deleted so what do you call that? Ra to the cist . What county protects other people and not their own people 😌😏
some blk people are sick in the head they just love to worship light skin. Effects of slavery
They protect each other. They back each other. In the diaspora. The Lebanese eg from Brazil to Congo. Very few drink to getting drunk or enjoying themselves with music and women too much. But just look at Nigeria and Congo, Ghana and Kenya to name a few. So many black billionaires. They tend to be square boring bookeeper types. Plenty of rich ones who fit the Instagram model though but they will never be Dangote.
This is what the British brought to Jamaica and left there.
Surprise😱... not surprise🥴
Should the color issue between the brown and the darker hue be called racism or pigmentation prejudice? Should the brown people be considered a separate race?
Can't we all get along?
Barclays Bank was associated with the apartheid system in South Africa…. I’d never bank with them their history is tainted bad….
did not know that
@@jamaicachronicles2023 yes I remember in the 80s in the UK they were one of the banks that refused to pull out of the apartheid system… therefore they supported it
Not to mention their historical ties to the British monarchy.
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I was born in jamaica left go England an I came back for holiday rented a place from a white man in Jack's Hill he was so racist and abusive to me very very racist and was talking about how black ppl should not be here n they came back for their country it was very bad treatment I got and my partner who is a working class man
can somebody call dah yute deh from over the young police channel and tell him true history is being taught over here to pull up a chair and come learn him something because in his eyes Edward Siargo was the best primemister ever in jamasica so please an tanks call him deh smaddy quick
Dat bwoy is an absolute eeediat!
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So, please explain to me why Mr. Osman Theodore Fairclough, the black man, is not a National Hero, but Mr. Norman Manley is. It was Mr.Fairclough who saw it fit to initiate the struggle to liberate the society from the ugly bias and racism of the time; granted Mr.Norman Manley was a lawyer(His lawyer I presume). I think Mr.Osman Fairclough is equally worthy of the honor and recognition for the progressive strides we have made as a society; and of which we so bountifully enjoy today.
i agree with you
There are Black or African Jamaicans that dont like Brown or Mulato/ Mixed-race Jamaicans! I and many of my family and friends have been threatened, bullied, charged higher prices on items because tbey assume you are rich because you are a Brown or White or Chinese. I have seen Black students picking fights with White students just because they are White.
I know Brown and White Jamaicans owned slaves and both groups were on top of the social economic ladder, however n thats no excuse as Black Maroons also owned slaves.
It goes both ways!
Now Black people (not all) bleach their skin to attempt to look like a Brown or Browning person. Also the Black man in Jamaica 1st choice in mate is a Brown, White or non Black mate!
You do know where that behavior is coming from, right? You admit it here, but then double down on preferential status 🎻
Incorrect history manly did not form the pnp
who formed the PNP ? send me the link to the info so i can learn
Bom bom
Remember that when God made man he grieved because they are so wicked
Even animals are more loved than mankind
In 1914 when my daddy was born. Only 850.000 people were living on the lsland. 50.000 in kingston..
1844, twelve years prior to the sisters' arrival, Jamaica's total population consisted of about 14,000 whites, 81,000 “coloreds” or mixed-race, and 346,000 blacks. On November 13, 1856, the sisters' ship made its first port-of-call since leaving New York in Kingston.
The bottom line is that it was us maurs/ original beings who invented slavery"..... it was the wights who were the slave's"..... the word slave comes from the word [ slav] the wights are the slavs/ mamluk's/ tamahu.....
The trans Atlantic slave trade was one of the greatest and most offensive thing in the sight of God and to humanity. They crawled out of the caves and took Ii to another level.
This little history is very interesting. First 15 yrs in St Thomas JA. The real country part in the early sixties. The older folks used to say. Majority of the people in Kingston was prejudice and they don’t eat what the country people eat. I have in-laws that still shows that nature. Thanks to mr Banks. 🥹🥹
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