END of CONTROVERSY. Thomas L. Jennings vs Paul Bogle.
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- Full investigation of HOW Paul Bogle "BECAME" Thomas Jennings. I am going to prove with 100% certainty that the man in the photo is NOT Thomas Jennings and cannot possibly be Thomas Jennings. I'm also going to show WHERE this portrait actually comes from, WHO the original owner was, HOW it became Thomas Jennings, WHEN it happened and WHO is responsible for it.
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🔴 CHAPTERS
00:00 Introduction
01:34 The Bogle/Jennings Controversy
05:12 Verifying: WHEN the photo was taken
09:04 Verifying: WHERE the photo was taken
12:27 Who is Thomas Jennings?
21:43 How the photo became "Thomas Jennings".
29:29 Who is responsible for the controversy.
33:10 Paul Bogle portrait Controversy in Jamaica
35:40 Help to verify the photo
🔴 REFERENCES:
► National Library of Jamaica
nlj.gov.jm/
► "America's First Freedom Rider" by Jerry Mikorenda
www.amazon.com/Americas-First...
► Proposed Statue Honoring Elizabeth Jennings Graham
ideas.pbnyc.org/pbnyc-ideas-2...
► The Steve Harvey Show
watch/?v=195...
► JET Magazine (now available only online)
myjetstory.com/
► Honouring Thomas Jennings
www.congress.gov/bill/113th-c...
► Paul Bogle: first mention in the internet (from 2001)web.archive.org/web/200110241...
► Thomas Jennings: first mention in the internet (from 2001)
web.archive.org/web/200111290...
► Paul Bogle: first scanned image uploaded to the internet (from 2006)
web.archive.org/web/200609022...
► First time photo misused as "Thomas Jennings" by these bloggers:2010:tjsthings.com/2010/02/02/the-...
newyorkcitybites.blogspot.com...
zmblackhistorymonth2011.blogs...
► Jamaican photo published by JET magazine as "Thomas Jennings" on 6 February 2012:
www.ebay.com/itm/265129017578
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Paul Bogle took this photo at the same studio as George Washington Gordon. If you locate George Washington Gordon picture, you will know the studio because it’s written on his picture.
I saw that picture on someone's cellphone a black person he was. He did not know who it was. I went to school in Jamaica and used a textbook, showing that picture along with the other so called heroes of Jamaica. Well Marcus Mosiah Garvey is tops in my book.
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Excellent journalistic work!! Wow!!! You have me glued to the monitor!
As a Jamaican, I thank you immensely for clearing this up. Thought the government would have tried to clear up the misinformation but they're too busy with nothing. I appreciate you for doing such intense research and bringing the truth to life.
The government is no historian. That's why she is doing it. Would you like the governement to use taxpayers money to employ a researcher to fund such a research? If it did, would you be comfortable with that? This should be the work of a historian. Besides, that's why they have a national library with archives with historian documents.
@@JW-ux4ey yes, the government should use taxpayers money to clear up this NATIONAL issue because they use taxpayers money to do menial, unnecessary nonsense. Moreover, majority of the information she provided came from OUR national archives.
@@mekhalia hence forth anyone can do it. The newspaper did it also. How did that go over with the Americans?
Why would the government clair it up? It's not Thomas Jennings, and it can not be 100% confirmed as Paul Bogle. The government knows it would open a can of worms.
You are not Jamaican stop the cap u wierdo
One can’t help but admire the meticulous work put into this video. Irina you are definitely a standout in Jamaican journalism.
So true. Makes me more proud to be Jamaican
Thanks for the historical contents you provide. I am still learning about my beautiful country
In a world of misinformation and mistrust, you did a great job with this story. Love your work.
Maybe so, but she said Paul Bogle fought for qoute "fair treatment of all Jamaicans" which definitely incorrect. Don't believe me then read Paul Bogles book. Yes he wrote and was calling to arms all black people in the spectrum of who know today as black people. Not sure if he also included mixed race, mulatto or whatever they tended to call children born to the slave owner or white overseers. Remember Bogle lived after the freeing of black slaves and there was a pronounced cast system. Remember a lot Indians and Pakistanes wirked in the coloniall administrational systemy of commerce. Here's a qoute from his book "Skin For Skin". "Every black man must turn out at once, for the oppression is too great; the white people are now cleaning up they guns for us”. Now correct me please if I'm wrong.
That guy she was talking to, Jerry was using a GREEN SCREEN.
All smoke and mirrors. All lies.
I don't give a damn about Jamaican or Jamaica
@@derrickglass4183your comment dont make sense.
Yet you click and post here/ how dumbfounded are you
@@derrickglass4183
You need an award for journalism and an Order of Distinction from the Jamaican Government
Please write a letter requesting this
@@LookingupinJA For what? The Philosophy and Opinions of Marcus Mosiah Garvey is not even required reading in the high schools of Jamaica and you want to bestow her with an order of distinction for her elementary research on Mr. Jennings. CHO!
@@ColtanFree Therefore, YOU could write a letter requesting same….on a side note : i teach Marcus Garvey at the Primary level and I use that book as a resource book to give examples of his teachings to my students.
@@ColtanFree her getting an award is certainly not for this research but her work on a whole…..
@@LookingupinJA And you still have a job? You're engaging in subversive teaching mon. Did they lift the ban on Walter Rodney's work yet? 🤫
I now get pissed watching the local news channel… You are the gold standard for investigative journalism. Thanks.
As an African American I truly appreciate you for posting this truth and appreciate your research. Thank you very much.
they are the same people: and that is what you should leave with
both have the same DNA and same family tree.
@@cinnamonstar808wtf are you talking about, did you go to school for fun?
@@MrJamChin I don't understand your question
😂😂@@MrJamChin
● TIME WASTING ●
*Yawdman dem naw reed nutten dred*
》Do a lewd immoral song & dey mite reeSawch.
Sign: Yuh Zeet😢
The Americans should also thank Irina for researching Thomas Jennings and educating the world about his life, work and family.
🤣 I agree 100%. No free work around here.
Thomas Jennings is one of many black Americans that have had innovations and creations across America. Thank her for what? You typed this like as if everyone is clueless lol
@@mikegreen8938there you go with that high and mighty attitude, humble yourself
@@mikegreen8938 did you not watch the video? She highlighted alot of inaccuracies not only about Paul Bogle but about Jennings.
@@mikegreen8938you’re the reason the world hates Americans, coming from a black American smh
I'm Jamaican so I'm definitely grateful for you to clear this up and preserve our history. I'm also happy that you exposed how great and important Mr. Jennings is. He is definitely much more phenomenal than Americans have been giving him credit
Because a white woman says its soooooo... that's is truth.. we just don't know - How is she preserving our history, whites have destroyed our history
Who wants to share with me and raise a 1000 cheers for this outstanding level of research and well presented material for the benefit of the Jamaica people and others who shares their interests.
THANK YOU Irina and for all you do for our Country and our Culture ❤
Absolutely!
This is journalism, job well done, much respect
Your dedication to truth and thoroughness minus the sensationalization that drives other bloggers of Jamaican contents make you a standout among many. Your work on behalf of all fair-minded Jamaicans has only just began. Keep up the good job, Jamaica needs you!
Thanks Irina, your research into the Jamaican culture and history is inspiring to me a Jamaican. Honestly, I am feeling so worthy for the first time in my life. The negative reports above slavery and everything else about my people was a heavy burden on my psyche for many years. Your body of work is taken seriously by EVERYONE. ❤
Indeed
Are you afraid to know your history before slavery that you should be proud?
Like the man says Check your history it will show. ... our history did not start with slavery. Without going too deep. One can start at 332 BCE. One love.
@@afiaalkebulanfood528 Start at 10,000 BC because it starts before 300,000 B.C. RastafarI!
Smmfh
The same way ,they take Paul Bogles image, and turn him into the laundromat man, they take Marcus Garvey character and turn him into a villain.
African Americans were jealous of the influence and power Mr. Garvey had and it still shows in all the so called documentary they put out about him. mi nah figet how dem betray Garvey
That always been the mindset of the white men anypart of the world they are.
Bingo
I remember and was so upset. Disney did it in an episode of the "Proud Family"
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We are so grateful for this type of unbiased journalism that awakes the minds of our ppl. We truly appreciate your dedication to unravel and any misconception that is out there about any story. I truly believe that those of us that are not patrons and are dedicated subscribers to press the like button and share this video so that the message can quickly spread and Irene can be compensated. This type of work also need to be highlighted on our TV stations here in Jamaica so that the diaspora can get to know about Irene. Thank you for choosing 🇯🇲
My children and I are absolutely indebted to you, Irina, for your tenacity and commitment to clarify this issue; at least for clarifying that Jamaica did not plagiarize Thomas Jennings' photo and claim it to be that of our national hero, Paul Bogle.
You are more Jamaican than me who was born and raised here 😂. Excellent research, I'm truly impressed. I smell another viral video.... Gonna share this now
She is not more Jamaican she is a better researcher than you. She is a journalist.
Stop telling her that, wtbc 😖
● TIME WASTING ●
*Yawdman dem naw reed nutten dred*
》Do a lewd immoral song & dey mite reeSawch.
Sign: Yuh Zeet😢
The amount of research work, history and culture that you bring to the rest of the world about beautiful Jamaica, is simply amazing! I have always said that you do more for Jamaican Tourism, than the Gov't of Jamaica. Thank you for all that you do! Much Love, Ocho Rios/Toronto Mike!
Journalists in Jamaica is lazy !
@@doreenwilliams2018 not only lazy, but incompetent, not able to step up and represent their people and country in a positive way. One cannot be a Journalist and bow to outside forces, and have pride in self.
I totally agree with you about Irena's contribution to tourism and believe she should be given a national award. So, Mr. Tourism Minister, please take note and offer Irena's name for a national award.
you are crazy. nobody works harder than Ed bartlette.
@@doreenwilliams2018 Not only the Journalist. Its the entire educational system in Jamaica that mis-educates and does not value history.
Irina, not only are you an excellent journalist but you are a meticulous researcher. As Jamaican living in the diaspora I do so appreciate your channel. May you one day be rewarded for your hard work. God Bless you🙏🏽
no she isnt How come she doesnt know both groups are mostly BLACK native Europeans? if you see "X" like this🇯🇲 and stars and bars like this -🇺🇸 = its black Europeans
She just move to go live with her former masters ____🤴🏼 🤴🏽 🤴🏾 🤴🏿 👸🏽 👸🏾
THE REASON WHY EUROPE an NORTH AFRICA became white is because they all took Ukraine wives.
Ukraine women are the ones who open the door to upward mobility in Europe. because i twas a closed society. The marriage is what allow white inside those castles.
You need to understand why 🇺🇦 Ukraine is important to the white identity in Europe.
These 2 [🇮🇪 🇷🇺Russia are hardcore "gatekeepers for the old world power " and the flank the European continent. Scandinavian + Poland are at the top still holding court.
if they are not in NATO : they are still holding court. 🤙🏾 🤙🏿 its the same whites America banned from immigrating in the 17ths century. they still bend the knee to black rule in Europe.
in the end its not a thief : ✦ ✧ they are one of the same. and America knows this
The Jamaican accent like the Gullah from North Carolina is from Britannia.
Paul Bogle learned African language when the Africans were brought into Jamaica.
🤴🏽👸🏾 💬 "bend the knee" The high lords of Europe became the slaves. Their own serfs gave them back their slave name. new world, new rulers.
karma 💅🏾
dont wait on her to KNOW your history; look it up yourself.
you and black Americans are in a diaspora. See Dr Marie Charles who is unearthing all of Europe's real history.
**THIS IS WHY YOUR JAMAICAN ACCENT IS NO WHERE IN AFRICA.
GB is obsessed with Jamaica and the Bahamas because all of the 🤴🏾 🤴🏿 👸🏽 👸🏾true high borns and royal bloodline where dropped off their 1st. 100% of Montserrat is native Irish.
the white german: who are loyal to QUeen Charlotte family in German: they got dropped off in Jamaica with you
the white irish, the white scottish and everyone from wales ; also go dropped off int he new world. the rest they dump in Sierra leone.
Wales is kin to yoruban + Ibo: they are the dragons of the 🐲east [China] and the 🐲west Wales
🇳🇬when you see Nigerians in UK or China they are going back to their old kingdoms
When you see Caribbean people in the UK they are going back home.
when you see the moors in Europe ; they went their to DEFEND 🦁👑] [🏰👑] 🦄 🐲] all of these noble families that rule that land.
because they made a pack in ancient Egypt. all the black royals are in a pack. Hawaiian royals wrote to Africa when they got invaded.
America knows they all know each other. because that is the old world power they are fighting.
***************** This photo is nothing. this is petty when they are living in your damn castles and pretending to be you ************ and keeping your surnames andyour language and your culture as theirs.
WAKE UP
Great research ,I was wondering why the Jamaica Govt was not rebutting this foolishness..Thank you .
They can't because those people are like thier slave master
If it ain’t making them money they don’t care
@@cheveldowner1145You're a hypocrite, you are not even subscribed to this channel.
What!!!
I am so ashamed to think that some Jamaicans would even consider that the government was lying to us in the use of that Paul Bogle picture thinking that the America picture was correct. it goes to show you how much we can disregard our own value thinking that anything foreign is always better. I thought by now Jamaicans would have had more sense than that.
Yes, I agree. But the silence from the Jamaican government was really disturbing to me. I just wanted to hear something from the ministry of culture or somebody. They need to publicly thank Irina for doing this research.
@Ahmiseysoh75 I understand, but most of them from both parties are bonehead. They are not concerned about history, only how to enrich themselves and hold power.
Silence is the best weapon if they know it’s true they don’t need to clear nothing up. That’s like a little baby trying to pick a fight with your grown ass and you hitting the baby back 😂. They have better things to worry about than a picture
@@TAITRAVELVLOGSyh but keeping silent won’t really help…that would just lead to more misinformation being spread. Thank god for Irene
@@jadenromell1458 that’s why it needs to be put out in the public eyes, that the states and uk lied on him and trumped up fake charges to lock him up to silence him because of his vision and impact on black people at that time. That person is just talking nonsense because most people that aren’t Jamaicans and even Jamaicans believe these accusations against him. Just a few people on the internet that’s telling the truth about what really happened which is why they are trying to get him pardon by Biden. They don’t have these things in Jamaica history books. Just like how they took Paul bogle picture and says it someone else, same thing they did Marcus but it’s the CIA/FBI which was the FBI first black agent that sold Marcus and the black people progress out which he was up against not bloggers.
Thanks again Irene for doing a fantastic job. As a black man and a school teacher I always get annoyed with "copy and paste" or slapped any picture beside a written assignment. Those who have written on black history constantly made this error; mixing up all sorts of pictures, arts, and portraits in their works. I am annoyed.
Plagiarism……. .
Black American History
You claim to be a black man and a teacher, then you should know how these mix ups happen. Some are innocuous and some is intentional. What exactly are you doing to correct it Mr. Annoyed...
Very intentional in the continuing confusion of one history and identity.
Why do I smile from ear to ear watching your contents? I usually find anything remotely close to a documentary, the least bit entertaining, but not when you do it. 😂 I respect your thoroughness and how you go about all your researches and I especially love that it is all about Jamaica 😊. I remember being sent this controversy recently by my sister who is living in America, and I was telling her I never believe anything on the internet especially if it's controversial because by my nature I would want to do some extensive research myself the garner my own opinion. Here we are today with Irena, making it easy for us😂😂😂 Thank you. What a truth-seeker you are.
Brilliant work Irena (as usual)! How have you not yet been given a medal of honour by Jamaica!? I feel compelled to research the process of adding someone to that list because you certainly deserve an award for all the good that you have done to bring cultural awareness to a very wide audience.
Indeed! I love that she ( Irena) gives a positive contribution to my country #Jamaica. A worthy resident
#JamGirl1
Why should she be given a Medal of Honor by Jamaica?!
@@mystic7579 if you have to ask that question then I won’t waste my time telling you the obvious! Show us what YOU have done for Jamaica!
Thanks for sharing. I live in Atlanta Ga and went to a black museum and saw this same photo of Paul Bogle and was confused because it was labeled Thomas Jennings. Thanks for clearing this.
This deserves to be on mainstream TV. Excellent research work!
This shows the importance of being responsible when giving or passing information.
Thank you, Irena for clearing this up. Because, as a jamaican living overseas, and to see this, my blood was boiling what people would do for a buck.
This NEEDED to be researched and addressed!❤
We need hold America accountable and Jamaica government suck up everything American do wrong to our culture. An it’s not the first things like this going on.
I think this is why this research is done to clarify! If people or Government “ suck up” then what would be the purpose of this!!
It is a random TH-cam video for me, I'm not Jamaican or American, but I'm completely amazed by your work of journalism and mainstream quality presentation. Well done, Irina
oh, thank you! 🙏
Thanks Irina, not just for this well researched expose but for all the wonderful work you have been doing regarding Jamaica and the many reasons we have to be proud as Jamaicans. Bless you.
As someone who has both black american n jamaican parentage i find this video very informative
This really goes to show the danger (of faux news‼️), and the impact ❤
Wow amazing Job Irina, even us as Jamaicans didn't even know a lot of what you shared in this video, hats off to you my sister.
I just knew in my guts it was Paul bogle 😂
The reason is that the educational system tun we inna fool. History is not valued. Stop talk bout dem ole time sumhing dem seh. CHO!
Thank you for the True-Story, not the "History" but the truth. As a Ja-Merican (Jamaican-American) it makes me happy for the clarification of Mr. Bogle and also of the Jennings contribution to us as a people.
Because a white woman says its soooooo... that's is truth.. Period.. okay
Yes yes the truth must be told
Hi Irena, thank you for yet another great informative video. This video was very informative for me and I sincerely hope that the controversy of this photograph will be settled soon. I did know about this person Thomas Jennings. I thank you for enlightening me and I am sure millions more. I feel this is not the end of this story with you, so I am looking forward to any updates you may have in the future. As a Jamaican, I am very proud of you for the great things you are doing in Jamaica. Take care.
Happy for the research. So many people were saying the US was right and Jamaica wrong
Man this is groundbreaking stuff. You're like a modern-day Frank C. Cundall, both not originally from Jamaica, yet both of you have made significant contributions to uncovering the history of the land of my birth. I only wished more of my country men and women would have that same deep appreciation for our rich history. Thanks
Thank you. I've found some really good works by the Jamaican historians and other Jamaican academics, it's just that they are not media people, so we don't see them much. However, I am hoping to include them in the full documentary on Paul Bogle!
@@JAMAICAWITHIRIEWhen will this full documentary be available? Also did you hear some people claiming to be Jennings Family were planning to sue the Jamaican Government for the picture?
@@sadikihall4466 I'm hoping to finish the research in 2024 and publish the documentary then. Aiming for October 2024, but we'll see how the research goes. As for the Jennings family - these claims are false, as there are no members of Jennings family, no descendants survived, so the information about them planning to do anything cannot be true.
You all need to begin by correcting the myth about Queen Nanny...She was not a Jamaican. She was born in West Africa . Stop claiming her as a Jamaican. CHO!
@@ColtanFree A lot of Jamaicans are the descendants of Africans. At the time when Queen Nanny lived there was no country called "Jamaica", yet she lived and operated on the island that is called Jamaica today and her descendants also lived in Jamaica. If Queen Nanny and other people who came or were forcefully brought to Jamaica are not Jamaicans, who is then?
Thank you, Irina. Well researched. The world should now be convinced that the portrait is indeed that of Paul Bogle, a national hero of Jamaica.
What a great contribution you have made to our historical data. I do hope you’ll be able to glean more information from your audience and that you’ll be recognized for your body of work.
Thanks Irie, you did a wonderful job. I recently met Paul Bogle’s great granddaughter who is a singer from England. Her name is Janet Kay Bogle born of Jamaican parents Clifton and Monica Bogle. She was awarded 2 months ago at an award ceremony in Miramar Florida along with other accomplished Jamaicans, including Rory from the sound system “ Stone Love “ She resembles the photo of who we Jamaicans know as Paul Bogle . I think you should research and contact them for more accurate details. Stay blessed and continue the good work you’re doing for Jamaica 🇯🇲.
Thank you for sharing! Kindly note, the living descendants of Paul Bogle cannot possibly have last name Bogle, because all of them are descendants of Paul Bogle's daughter, whose last name via marriage was Clarke. So, if you see a person who has last name Bogle - it's almost guaranteed they are not directly related to Paul Bogle. They might be related to his brother - Moses Bogle or most likely they come from a different line of Bogles.
Thanks for clarifying that Irene. People share all kinds of misinformation because they do not know the facts. We are doing research into one branch of our family tree and we have gotten as far back as 1892 and still working through the historical documents. This kind of research does take time
Paul Bogle had a son. Janet Kay Bogle is the great great great granddaughter of Paul Bogle.
@@lorrainenelson2484 Paul Bogle had 2 children. Cecelia Bogle (born in 1841) and William Bogle (born in 1845). William was hanged in 1865 together with Paul Bogle. However, William had a son, Nathaniel Bogle (grandson of Paul Bogle). However, the only descendant who survived after Nathaniel was Phillip Bogle, who died in 1990s. That's it. No more Bogles from the side of Paul Bogle's son.
However, Paul Bogles daughter had many descendants, because her son had 13 children, all had last name Clarke. The land that belonged to Paul Bogle still belongs to a person named Felix Clarke, who was the grandson of Paul Bogle. Felix died a long time ago, but the title for the land is still in his name I have the title for his land and I have the original documents from RGD for ALL Paul Bogle's descendants. There are no more living direct descendants of Paul Bogle with last name Bogle. There are lots of people with last name Bogle who came from a different line of Bogles though and also there might be some after Paul Bogle's brother, Moses Bogle.
I am impressed with your thorough research. You really are a “irie” journalist. Nuff respect. Keep up the good work.
Wow Irina I was mesmerized by your video. How dare anyone want to steal our picture of our Paul Bogle. You did an amazing job with this video. Thank you.❤
They stole us from Africa so.....
Hypocrites.....Yuh all value a picture but nuh tek heed to the struggle of Paul Bogle. The same system of oppression and exploitation still exist inna Jamaica. CHO!
Well done Irina, hats off to you. As a student of history this video is not only important but very special . You continue to do what others fail to, you are simply amazing 👏🏿 ❤️.
As a Jamaican an almost 60 years,, AS A CHILD WE KNOW THIS PHOTO AS PAUL BOGLE, Jamaican national HERO
Thank you so much for your thoroughness in clearing up this situation. You are doing superb journalism. We, Jamaicans, appreciate you.
I love you just like how you ♥️ my country Jamaica 🇯🇲
IRIE, you are a great resident of our beloved homeland Jamaica
As Bob said, they (Babylon and its children ) are “Confused with Confusion” . We must always stand up for ourselves and to their foolishness while staying out of these lost people’s way, because if, You wrestle with a pig you only end up getting dirty, nobody wins. Amazing amazing job as usual Irina. ❤👏👍
I hope this goes viral. Thank you for your thorough research Irina.
Thank you Irie for ur outstanding and remarkable research in cleaning up this controversy. U r one the best in ur field and u have opened the eyes of many Jamaicans with ur brilliant work. As Jamaicans, we r lucky to have u. Nuff thanks and Blessings!
Thank you so much for all the support! ❤
WOW. As a researcher, I applaud your thoroughness. I often wonder about this. Thank you so much.
Irina, thank you for your in depth research, analysis and presentation of Jamaican history.
You may be in line for a national award some day!
Irena, maximum respect. Ukraine's loss is Jamaica's gain. Please stay with us. We need you.
Thanks much for the effort you put into this research. I was greatly disturbed when I saw the video about Jennings a few years ago, so hat's off to you, for giving clarity ❤
John Rustrum was born in Jamaica, who created Freedoms Journal. We must also give credit to Samuel Cornish and Jennings credit for their contribution.
Fantastic work! I had no idea this kind of forensic work was possible. Thank you so much for investing the time into researching this issue.
Wow !! Thank you Irina for the time and effort you input in this detailed research. You have exceeded your already excellent standards with this project. On behalf all our proud Jamaicans, we salute you for your passion, committment and desire to do a deep dive in this matter to find the truth and bring clarity. Thank you. Now, go celebrate by having a wonderful Christmas.
Thank you, Irina, for clearing up this cloud of doubt that has been lingering over this story of Paul Bogle and Mr.Jennings.we truly appreciate your work
That is not Paul boggle sorry in a tailored suit with gold watch in suit think
Noway
Irina Irina. Great researcher. You are phenomenal. You left no stone unturned. Thank you for restoring our National hero. Paul Bogle’s picture authenticity. A lot of people think of Jamaica as a third world country. They forget that this was a British colony and that things like photography and indoor water and electricity was present in Jamaica ages ago. Even though these things wet for the rich only it was there
Excellent genuine journalism. Which some say unfortunately is a dying form. Relevant history for Jamaica and America.
Thank you so much for this! We Jamaicans must do something about this!
Like what?
Like a national award or something
Wow you are a "BEAST" when it comes too journalism 👏 👏🏽👍🏾my goodness why hasn't the jamaican government given you a award yet. Excellent job
Irina! I appreciate you for this video! All the work that went into this research to break ground on that photo is phenomenal! Jamaican history is extremely rich and I love that about my country but there was a reason Edna Manley didn’t use the photo for the monument even though she knew about it, I’d also go as far to say there were doubts before the first release of the photo which is the reason for the delay and the fact that the original is now missing is mind blowing to me.
I do hope you receive responses from others with similar backgrounds in the photos for a follow up. This could just be the pivot needed for future generations learning about the national heroes accurately.
Thank you so much for sharing this comment 🙏 Well, I've been actually doing the research on this photo for almost 12 months now. The video here just shows the tip of the iceberg. So far the evidence shows that this photo might be very much connected to Paul Bogle - it's either him or somebody who was close to him or his family. This project is still in progress. Once we finish the research, we'll be making a full documentary about Paul Bogle.
● TIME WASTING ●
*Yawdman dem naw reed nutten dred*
》Do a lewd immoral song & dey mite reeSawch.
Sign: Yuh Zeet😢
I love your work. I am a Jamaican born. now living in the beautiful Ireland. and I am very happy that you dig deep and found out the real history about our Jamaican Paul Bogle. Fare play to you. I follow your channel a lot. Keep up the good work.
Good day Irie, must say when you undertook your" Investigative Journalism Study" you were being prepared by Higher Powers from above, to pursue this work in Jamaica, only, you knew it not then.
Recently when I saw on the internet a photo of Paul Bogle being circulated from US claiming him to be one Jennings of America, I blinked twice😂😂, exclaiming 'what', 'who', 'noooh way is he an American. Bogles' picture and achievements has been taught to us in School, how is he now being portrayed as an American, but I was confident in myself knowing exactly who he was, so I was not upset. Your thorough research and professionalism brought him back to his rightful place. Thank you for your hard work, and thank God for transporting you to Jamaica to continue in this wonderful work you are doing. Have a happy holiday, you and your family.
In 2011, I began noticing this picture being associated with the Jennings guy on Facebook posts, which drives me nuts then. I literally got into several arguments defending this pic of Paul Bogle. But I am happy Irine got to the bottom of this nonsense. 👏 👏 👏
Ah, great to hear! Well, I hope you would LOVE this video, as there will be so many more tools to use to defend the image in future :)
Why is she trying to pit us all against each other!!!!! Damn!! What she needs to do is tell everyone who's bringing in all the drugs and guns and how this murder rate is ugenics in action!!
Love from the north!❤
@@tjc2824 ignorance is bliss😢😢😢😢
Take your meds according to the doctor's orders.
@doreenwilliams2018 You think it's crazy to question why our commuities are flooded with guns and drugs? You'll need more than adhominem attacks for this!
Just love you Irina the Fact Hunter for Jamaica and Jamaicans watching from Canadians far north
Superb work as usual! 👏🏿
Your channel is as informative as the learning channel.
Thanks for all your hard work.
Omg Irena, I'm always excited when you're about to drop a new video but, this one was like waiting for a big movie to hit the big screen, trust mi, great work no sugar coatings around here just straight research and an open mind in search of the truth 🎉🎉🎉 bless up Irena ❤ we love you ( AKWAABA, AKWAABA) to Jamaica land we love, thank you for your hard work.
Again I was glued to the screen stopping to replay at points. Big thank you for your research into this National hero. It answered quite a bit but there are still unanswered questions. There's no doubt. This is not Thomas Jennings!
outstanding piece, thanks so much for shedding light on this subject. As a Jamaican I grew up believing that the picture was of Paul Bogle. Thanks for clarifying the circumstances of the controversy around it being displayed as Mr. Jenning as well. Well done.
As a very proud jamaican living in the United states I would love to take this opportunity to thank you for the immensely important work that you've embarked on which is to shine a bright light on our culture, our history our people and who we truly are. You may have been born in Ukraine but my dear you are a jamaican and you'll continue to have our support and our love. Please continue the good work - IRIE LOVE
Thank you, again Irina, for another Blockbuster documentary and research. You are an asset to all Jamaicans. Well done! I have learned a lot about Jamaica's history. 👍
Great job Irina. You did all this research and did a damn good job. Mek yuh country proud.
Irina, I just wanted to take a moment to express my appreciation for the incredible amount of research you put into your videos. As a fellow Jamaican, it's truly inspiring to see how dedicated you are to dispelling myths and presenting all viewers with factual information.
I did notice a recurring error in your presentations, though, and I thought it would be helpful to bring it to your attention. In English, it's important to include articles when referring to decades. Instead of saying "in 1950s" or "in 1970s," we should use the correct form, which is "in the 1950s" or "in the 1970s." It might seem like a small detail, but it can make a big difference in terms of linguistic accuracy.
I genuinely admire your dedication to research, and I encourage you to continue the fantastic work you do in promoting Jamaica on the world stage. Your videos are informative, engaging, and truly help to shape a more accurate understanding of our beautiful country. Thank you for your hard work, and I look forward to your future content.
Best regards!
Thank you so much! And i appreciate your help with my English . Yes, articles are indeed a pain for any Ukrainian, as we don't have them in our language. This situation is funny, because I deliberately avoided using "the" with any decades, as I thought because decade is a number - no article is needed. Oh well, will know for future. Thanks!
PS I'm surprised you've mentioned only one mistake, I've counted quite a few here :)))
@JAMAICAWITHIRIE , well, I just wanted to highlight the recurring ones, and surely one of my main intentions was to give you credit for your work, which is greatly appreciated by many of us. Highlighting all of them would've probably been overwhelming (refining one's skills takes a lot of effort and time) 😄😉
Paul Boggle is a true Jamaican legend.
That is not a photo of* Boggle *either
I truly appreciate all the hard work you put in to inform and educate all , keep up the fantastic job 👍🏾👍🏾👍🏾
Thanks again for always putting in the research for us .Iriie you Rock. True Adopted Jamaican. We appreciate your Knowledge of Jamaica and always being forthcoming in your videos and researching of Jamaica 🇯🇲 good or bad. Big up yourself and family
Brilliant. Such professional work. Thanks Irena.
Has a Jamaican I was feeling down about this mix up with our national hero thanks a million for the clarification.
Brilliant work Irina. You deserve official recognition.
Excellent, excellent, excellent research and journalism. Next level 🎉
Awesome show Irena well researched and clarifying thanks for all you do
Irina as a jamaican and someone who is into history of the island I salute you for a job well done. Jamaicans needed this after so many years of this confusion. How could the Jamaican government turned a blind eye to this.
I really appreciate this lady's work and time she devoted to bring forth this clarification to this story .
Irina, your passion and committment to truth and education is intriguing. I am always informed and entertained by your content. We are blessed to have you in Jamaica. One love❤
WE ARE THE WINNER
Impressive investigative journalism Irina! Well done, and thank you! 👏🏽
Really appreciate the clarity. As Jamaicans we need to be more interested in our history & always do our best to preserve it...thanks a lot
This is a great example of how research is to be done! Thanks Irie
Fantastic research topic Lady Irina, can't wait to watch it.
Wow! Mr Ogilvie of Wentworth High School was my extra-lesson Math teacher in the 1966-67. He was a good teacher indeed...
Ah great! Here is a question: What is the correct pronunciation of his name? Ogilvie - stress on the first syllable (O) or the second ("gil")?
@@JAMAICAWITHIRIEthe way I heard you pronounce it first is what he told me was the correct pronunciation...O,,,gle...vy
I wish I had known the info you shared back then. I would certainly have loved to speak to him on issues like these... [opportunity missed] SMH
Thank you for this video. God sent you for Jamaica people. I hope someone is sued for misrepresenting Paul Bogle
Thank you!! As a born jamaican I've had countless arguments with my American friends about this photo, now dem ca chat to me!!
Thank you 🙏 so much for clearing up this controversy.❤
Girl why they don’t give you your own show on the local channel is beyond me. Is it still JBC? Your videos are super informative for me as Jamaican living abroad.
Thank you Irina for putting out the correct information for our Jamaican history and misinformation and identity of our National hero Paul Bogle. Irina big up your nice clean self. Much respect.