took a few hours but decided to see how many charities we have here in Brighton and Hove Covering Homelessness in some way or, Here you go, ORGANISATION NAMEs:🤣🤣 Alcoholics Anonymous UK Allsorts Youth Project Antifreeze of the Off The Fence Charity Arch Healthcare GP Surgery BHFA - Brighton and Hove Faith in Action Multifaith Community Development BHT Sussex Arch Healthcare BMECP The Hummingbird Project Brighton and Hove City Council Brighton and Hove Housing Coalition Brighton and Hove Library Service Brighton and Hove Recovery College FareShare Sussex Brighton and Hove Street Pastors Brighton and Hove Wellbeing Service NHS Brighton Food Bank Brighton Table Tennis Club Brighton Women's Centre Care for Our City Cascade Creative Recovery CGL Brighton Street Outreach Service CGL Mentoring Service - CGL Recovery Service CGL St Thomas Fund Choir With No Name - Citizens Advice Brighton and Hove Creative Future Crossover Homelessness charity. Deen Relief Knight Support Deen Relief St Vincent's Centre, Brighton (Tower House) Digital Brighton and Hove Dogs Trust Hope Project Elemel Emmaus Brighton and Hove Working together to end homelessness. Equinox, Brighton Brighton Unemployed Centre Families Project (BUCFP) EVOLVE Gamblers Anonymous UK Gathering Place Food Bank Give Street Project Grassroots Suicide Prevention Invisible Voices of Brighton & Hove Justlife - Brighton and Hove Lawstop Solicitors Making a Difference Programme Mankind Metropolitan Community Church Brighton Mind in Brighton and Hove MindOut Community Works Money Advice Plus Narcotics Anonymous UK Seaside CIC National Careers Service Navigate - Brighton TNBI Peer Support for TransMasculine people New Note Projects NSNO Assessment Hub (Brighton) Oasis Project Pathways to Health Possability People Preston Park Recovery Centre Purple People Food Bank Real Junk Food Brighton Metropolitan Community Church Brighton Rise UK ru-ok? Safe Haven Sussex Safehaven Saltdean Food Hub Special Care Dental Service SSAFA The Armed Forces Charity St Annes Day Centre St John Ambulance Brighton Homeless Service St John Ambulance Brighton Homeless Service First Aid Charity St Luke's Advice Service Debt and benefit advice service Holland Road Baptist Church Church St Mary Magdalen - Coldean St Mary's Church (CofE), Staying Well Service - Survivors' Network Sussex Homeless Support Sussex Nightstop Short, Terrence Higgins Trust - The Brighton and Hove Food Partnership The Clock Tower Sanctuary The Running Charity The Salvation Army Brighton Congress Hall Church The Trust for Developing Communities (TDC) Transition and Resettlement Service Supporting people into independent accommodation UK Homes For Heroes Supporting homeless ex-service personnel Vision Care for Homeless People Voices in Exile Weald Community Food Centre Whitehawk Foodbank Woodingdean Food Hub YMCA DownsLink Group - YMCA Youth Employment Hub
Hells beard, that is a lot. Brighton is a magnet for the homeless though, quieter than London and better views? Or could it be Brighton is known as a good place to be homeless due to all the charities, a self fulfilling prophecy? Haven't been homeless for years so can't say 100%.
That’s not surprising . 22 years ago three prominent uk homeless charities talked about amalgamation/merger. After 18 months and a lot of tier 1 consultants costs it was scrapped. Ego’s of three CEO’s and boards could not agree. Just think 3 of everything before any funds got to service delivery~ 3 head offices with exec staff, 3 sets of corporate systems, telephone, brochures, internet etc etc
The privatization of what should be social services has proved to be a dreadful idea. Exploiting both taxpayers and those in need of social housing. Stupid idea from the get go.
This is what happens when you privatize social services. You allowing private companies to provide social care and support, what do you think they're going to do? Make profit and cut costs to maximise that profit. I hope the people of this country are connecting the dots, how all of these current crises could have been avoided if our services hadn't been privatized?
Social housing, social care and drug addiction "services" have been privatised for years. They call themselves "charities" but essentially they are private companies raking in lucrative government contracts . The service they provide isn't a patch on what it used to be years ago, but then that's true of GP "services", the police etc etc. If you want to see a DR it can take days to get an appointment, the police "service" is a fucking joke, our local police station is shut, for a non emergency issue you have to fill in a form online, the government sold off our local magistrates court, local social care has been cut to the bone. So why do people keep voting for this? Both political parties sold out to big business and the mega rich years ago, I for one am not a happy "consumer".
Because unfortunately a lot of voters are just plain stupid and brainwashed and STILL the penny hasnt dropped for them and most likely never will. Days for a doctor? Try weeks here in the south east buddy Most people like me dont even bother anymore unless its absolutely essential
I wonder in a general strike could be that tip of the iceberg. people need to come back together again, we are seeing a record number of suicides locally and something happened in 2016 when they went up up up!!
@@HousingDan What would help is a decent leader of the Labour party with a cogent long term policy. Someone to stand up and defy the elite who run the country instead of tiptoeing around like a frightened rabbit. The BBC are running scared too, the print media are one sided and I think social media keeps people locked inside a bubble. It's the perfect tool for social control and disharmony. "we are seeing a record number of suicides locally and something happened in 2016 when they went up up up!!" Despair due to Brexit? 6 years of Tory austerity? The quality of heroin has gone down badly since then, puzzler, it's a conundrum. Keep upthe good work....DA.
What people fail to realise that most of the housing charities are the actual exploiters but yet act innocent victims, and they wander why their properties get trashed.
@@zanderzoot they do exploit those people shouldn't have to live bunched up like that, that's why the trouble happens, they need their own homes not an open prison.
@@son_of_stan They get their own apartments within such properties. Also, sourcing appropriate housing is desperately difficult. Have you any experience in the industry?
@@zanderzoot yes i know a large amount of substance addicted low income people, but I'm in scotland where we give more help for these people and don't allow folk to go profiteering off their situation, putting them next to others who might be dealing, so we spread them out into normal communities which causes them to have better reform outcomes, what these guys are up to is shameless, and one 3rd of the Tory party are landlords which is a bit of a coincidence.
@@son_of_stan oh what and Scotland has never experienced a provision with an incompatible cohort? The fees charged to house these vulnerable individuals is within the legal boundaries. The comparison to the Tory party is a little unfair. Are you suggesting some Labour party members are not owners of properties that are rented out?
A few years ago I ended up in a place like this and it was a golden ticket for the “charity” and landlord of the building, a house worth maximum 250k had every room turned into a bedroom, no communal place except the kitchen, they took £280 per room per week, yet you still had to pay £25 a week housekeeping that covered a cleaner and some basics like cereal and tea and coffee, if you benefits went up you paid £50 per week ! There was no internet (we had to arrange and pay ourselves) once a week a person came round to check on all the tenants but their main concern was your current benefit amount and collecting in cash your housekeeping! This place housed 7 people that’s 84k a year ! It’s an absolute racket!
Trident in Birmingham bought an old retirement complex and had 99 of us there costing £24,453 in housing benefits. They got an extra £50 for each ex-offender they took in and £3712.50 a week from our benefits for basic food (most of which was delivered from fareshare so didn't cost them anything). That's about 1.5million annually. They had started moving people into student accommodation when I managed to get out and given how lucrative that was I wouldn't be surprised if they had expanded on that as well as the tower block and housing estate they own...
Their millionaires programme needs to be a LOT higher standard of journalism, than that fake episode they did on "Antisemitism in the Labour Party." #ItWasAScam 😏
In Washington state in the US we have this "non-profit" called LIHI Low income housing institute. Years back a local news station did a profile on the head of it. Some lady who drives a Bentley owns a few multi million dollar houses. Its all a scam. I hate these people.
locally I see so much money pumped into these services, they're often quite hostile, hence personally I'd like to see a stronger state and more accountability. Here in the UK Charities are exempt from the freedom of information Act, for me that's not right, as they are often in receipt of large amounts of public money. Cant see any party we have currently in the UK doing any mass reforms. it will be business as usual.
'We ask, is public money being exploited for private gain' - yes. In literally everything at the minute. Look no further than the current cost of living crisis and energy. Or even water for that matter.
100% I lived it, felt bad enough struggling at the bottom .. just to be ripped off for sometimes something as small as a room. Benefits pay these people way more than they’d pay us individually for a place to live, as well as tenants also paying “service charges” on top. Makes no sense, just makes the rich richer and poor poorer.
Everyone on this chat is focused on the charity making money and no one is even acknowledging the tenants destroying the property. Hello! Of course businesses shouldn't be ripping tax payers off, BUT tenants should also not be squandering and wasting tax payer's money. How can some of the tenants complain about the conditions when they are not looking after the premises? It's not realistic to keep paying for repairs. Simultaneously, if you try to get tenants clean from their addiction through institutionalisation as they cannot function by themselves (during a crisis) you're vilified for dehumanising people. Families cannot manage to look after their loved ones so how can companies that do not see them 24/7 also manage? The issue here is that tax money should be funding the mental health services that the government has been shutting down over the last decade! Poverty also needs to be addressed so that people are not forced into homelessness or into addictions out of sheer desperation and bleak prospects. This is a structural societal-wide problem with every public service from housing, education, healthcare, the penal system and more.
I stayed in supported housing for 2years until I got my own council flat. As one of only 3 females in a 19 room building, the thinks that went on were so frightening. There was no staff at weekends, I was terrified at times and considered taking my own life. I'm so lucky I made it out of there..
Glad you have moved on. This story sounds like mine, scary places. No support, just security guards. Ive currently got two female clients whom were raped in Brighton and Hove City Council Homelessness Accommodation.
That sounds like a complete nightmare! I thought mine was bad but if you're female it's even worse. I had a rough experience in the place I was and even though Im male I still got attacked. My mental illness made me vulnerable. I decided I'd rather sleep in a disused car park. I was safer there and it was quiet. I refused everything and stayed on the street until they put me in my own flat.
I recall one of my elderly mother's best friends was married to a high st bank manager. He was very good at his job, but he was also a very decent, honest sort of chap, and he got promoted up in the bank he worked for, to a new position, handling business with a whole load of charities like these, and it basically gave him a nervous breakdown. He didn't want to say much about it, other than they were horrible people to deal with and he thought they were all corrupt. Anyway, that was back in the 90's, so I imagine it's probably a whole lot worse these days.
You have to look very closely at the goals of a charity to understand what might be happening. The problem in the 1990s was that charities were set up specifically to get control of public money and assets. Buildings that were owned by the council could be brought extremely cheaply, or managed in exchange for a service that the council needed. Some are money grabbing. Others are motivated by a need to control; there are some pretty strange charities out there who don't make money because they only exist to "oppose X, Y & Z". You're absolutely right. These are horrible people who don't help anyone. Which begs the question why are they allowed the status of charities?
@@GlasPthalocyanine Oh yes, there are some pretty strange organisations that enjoy charity status, in this country, from elitist private schools, for people who aren't short of a bob or two, to right wing think tanks, masquerading as academic institutions, which seem to exist purely to spread misinformation and incite hatred, none of which seem particularly charitable by nature.
@@VeryIntellijent It's like 2008/2009, the govt funded companies to help people being made redundant gain new skills, £750 per head, for a 2 day course that didn't teach you anything and didn't give you any industry recognised certification. In fact when I turned it down, I was told I didn't even need to attend. Training companies owned by friends and family of people in govt. This country is complete joke, they're syphoning public money off though dodgy businesses owned by those holding the purse strings, whether it's charities or otherwise.
Following a freedom of information request, The Financial Times reported that 'UK residents had £850bn in financial accounts overseas - of which £570bn was based in tax havens - in 2019, the latest year HMRC has released statistics for. ' The figures come from financial data shared by more than 100 countries with HRMC.
I would suggest that it's the best place for the money, as far away from the incompetent UK government as possible. In the past 30 months the UK government has borrowed and mispent around £400 billion, a burden now hanging like a millstone on the necks of the UK taxpayer.
Problem is local authorities selling council properties under right to buy (thank you Margaret Thatcher) and not replacing them. The private sector will have profit as its main objective and is happily filling the void left. Build more government owned housing. Give migrants the right to work while asylum claims are being processed. Employ local housing officers to check on the standards of rental properties- this is happening in some areas. I would blame the government - current and historic - for not fixing the problems in housing for decades. They have lined the pockets of private landlords and there chums for too long. They rely on the population to blame each other and look down on those less fortunate and more successful while they do nothing.
Who are you. You have your finger directly on the post! I fully agree with all your points here! Whats your involvement in this manic housing climate? Affected ?
I'm in housing. Temporary accomodation, supported housing, care, asylum and investments. I cover the whole area but would not consider myself some greedy capitalist but someomr offering a service. No doubt I could be vilified by the BBC but they've presented a skewed and misleading view of the whole problem. The comments section show successful they are in misleading and misguiding the masses - blame the rich guy when it's actually a lot deeper than that. We house those that the system and government has failed. We make a profit but take the good and the bad when it comes to tenants. Properties wrecked because even the homeless have a sense of entitlement. Its a crazy situation but my view is articulated in my previous comment.
@@abydx Yes, certainly there are a few. we have a particular provider here locally, who well let's just say has made a lot of money, but I remember once, I met the owner, we are talking about a property portfolio of close to £150m. She would keep visual records due to some of the things a minority of tenants were doing to their homes, but again none of them had supported it was just security guards. there is a wider issue with addictions and mental health here and then the fact that well you need to have a vulnerability pretty much to secure housing. For me, we need not these places to come back in-house, a better direction of funds and more agencies and partners, those with lived experience, helping some of these people. High death counts in these places in the UK.
We provide homes to individuals that would otherwise be in hospital and therefore blocking beds. The care packages are often 1 to 1 24 hours a day. We are not able to get away with not doing our job vs some of the low level support needed for less vulnerable people. The abuse of the housing benefit system in terms of exempt rents is more on the low level supported housing market and this should be investigated. The housing association is right that it doesn't need to be regulated and is therefore de-registering. The rents are determined based on a number of factors and they are often justified. The problem is the rents actually being spent correctly and honestly. Mental health and other circumstances in which people need supported housing is a problem that is much deeper than housing. The breakdown of the family unit being one. Like I said these are extremely complex matters and I fear that society has just broken down to much for anyone in power to really care or be able to do anything about it. There will be good people that try and do good work but ultimately success is more often than not judged by the car your drive and the street you live on. Everyone else can kind of go to hell and the panorama episode is a damning indictment of that.
@@abydxIn Brighton and Hove we have seen those in supported accommodation skyrocket from like 200 to over 700 units now, the vast majority are not even assessed under the housing act, so are in fact hidden homeless. as licence agreements are not security. A few have criticised the low support provided. I have personally seen a lot of people move on with their lives after homelessness here in Brighton and Hove, primarily from my backing and support around advocacy and campaigning to get them the housing they need. There are so many more who don't get this and that's sad as only one man. again interesting points and areas in which stories need to be told. who would you say are the major beneficiaries of this sector?
“What shall it profit a man to gain the whole world and lose his own soul” These people will one day throw their money out as rubbish. Greed is NOT good.. They will be accountable one day; before THE ONE, True and Mighty King, The LORD JESUS CHRIST.
Until we reject the two parties that no longer represent us this corruption will continue. We need both parties cleaned out and corporate power removed from our democracies. They've rigged the entire system in their favour. Against the rest of us. People are waking up though.
Jeremy Corbyn was promising to crack the problem! While still Leader Of the Opposition, he shamed the Tories into giving homeless people a roof during Covid. The next year, after Keir was in, the pressure was off, so the Government conveniently forgot...😏
Long and short of it is UNTIL people realise 'charities' are there just to make money by playing on people's genoristy - nothing will change. The directors and those at the top pay themselves ridiculous amounts of money while those charity shop staff probably get minimal wage etc. I remember an advert for some children's thing by Ewan Magregor (trainspotting bloke) acting all meek and mild and begging people to help - the next advert was him advertising some damn holiday company - total hypocritical bollox these people are, getting a fortune from both adverts no doubt
You're on the money. Sadly, this will not change anytime soon, until there is a revolution, which forces these institutions to be accountable to an anonymous group of scrupulous individuals who have their hearts set on doing good. A lack the political will is understandable coz they are comfortable. A benevolent dictator is the need of our times. Whats the point of democracy when the choice is between bullshit n 🐄 cowshit. The outcome is shit either ways.
All that about Ewan McGregor may very well be true. But: 1) Charity SHOP staff don't get paid: never have and STILL don't, AFAIK. (I think post-pandemic some noises have been made, but.) They are VOLUNTEERS. As are the people who rattle those tins! 🙂 2) NOT all charities are bad, or a way of offering lucrative jobs to poshos! (Though we know David Miliband went off to be a charity CEO in the US, nuff said!) Many smaller local charities for instance do a good job (I have seen other cynical people on other TH-cam comments threads say! 🙂) and their full-time staff and management get paid relatively little. Hospices would be a good example. And - what about people like the RNLI? Unless you want to get all "Farage" about them... 😏
Yea and no it depends on the charity. Some are literally voulenteer services some are community farms so people pay a small amount every year and use the facilities and grow your own. Soup cafe from there own produce with a small charge for the soup, free food for people in need when they have bounty crops and give to the food banks regularly. But yea a lot of charities are hence why I like to rehome my goods myself and a lot of people say no cold callers.
@@oneoflokis some people voulenteer but there are still those who get payed ie managers and there boss and there bosses boss and so on look up the figures they get payed extortionate amounts out of the charities income
A clear example of sharing a country/nationality does not necessarily make everyone each other's friends nor does it mean that people care about each other. Capitalists care for their pockets only.
I’m afraid this is why I don’t give to charity unless I know the charity personally and can see exactly where the money goes. Many charity operators just pay themselves huge salaries with the collected money. It’s sickening.
They all profit from the homeless, the only reason we have homeless is because it’s based on a business model the government are part of this and have full knowledge off this and so are the so called non 4 profit businesses. Such as the ymca charges around £2000 per month per person, these charges range from normal charges such as rent, services charges etc. But then the tax payer also has to pay from 50p-£3 per time in there rooms such as carpet, and all furniture but all furniture is donated to them FREE OF CHARGE, so technically the YMCA are profiting off good which cost them zero, It the same as the food they make profits from the food they provide there tenants. The whole system is set up as a business to be honest nearly everything in this world is set up as a business with no care off the effects there actions have on the vulnerable.
Every city or town in the UK will have at least one or more of these types of HMO's. I have stopped in a MySpace and it messed up my life and was doing better on the street than living in one of their HMO's.
@@oneoflokis yeah but these are much worse for your life. I had just come out of a rehab and was living on the streets but still staying clean( 3 months at this point) I was placed in one of these HMO'S with two dealers, one in front of me and one more nextdoor. Before I move in I told them I was in recovery they said it will be fine just stay away from people like that.
@@oneoflokis and their using your money to pay for this. Put very valuable people and those who choose to sell drugs in the same buildings to the cost of your taxes.
Well, it seems that Paul was doing nothing illegal! I would ask why is he being singled out when *so many* large charities (& public organisations) have ridiculously high wage bills for individuals within those organisations (including the BBC). I find it very difficult to count all the individuals who 'earn' well over £¼Million/year! Where is the justification?
Because some of these charities or UK registered, have gone onto international level charity businesses... ? And originally, they were created.. in conjunction as a representation.. of UK, in the UN's arenas ? That is why they broker deals with other countries, and Africa or whatever... That is what they do ? But yes, charities within the UK is also important as well. I get the impression that, some of these so called charities, do not know how to run them. Maybe there IS no need for this specific charity.... In fact, there are at least 2-3 charities, with BETTER facilities, that could do the job, and for them to do the job as well. The problem is that, many individuals in the UK, even if they work for a charity, even charities FIGHT amongst themselves for the exact SAME budget? And budgets never comes fast enough... So this is why.. small businesses, like this is starting to pop out of the woodwork. If that man has a machete, then it means that, they may have some kind of mental traumas already. I do not know the case for this man.. and his background.. but clearly, he needed specialist care? And not necessarily housing per se ? Sometimes, some of these are ex-employees of different organisations and entities.. and they really needed specialist support afterwards... Sometimes, food, and sleep, is the first healing point. Just giving somebody housing, without changing their brain's chemistry and neural network, cos they have been doing certain jobs for an awfully long long long time... I think.. Well... Cut off point. Really, that cut off point has to come. Not soon enough.
I can honestly say I've never seen such blatant bias as I have seen in this documentary. They repeatedly make vague claims that "this random person thinks he's not breaking the law but it's unethical" yet they give no actual examples of his actions being unethical. They have a 5 minute segment on how bad his workers are, only to conclude with the short comment that they have passed dozens of checks from professionals and had absolutely 0 complaints or problems when examined by professionals in their field. It's comparable to picking a restaurant with a 5 star hygiene rating and 100% perfect reviews and saying "but this random worker feels the kitchen _wasn't up to scratch"_ yet the random worker has no ability to judge these things. Even when they say 'this random worker thought it dehumanised people because the company asked for a weekly report on how many moves had happened' it's like "mate, really? For goodness sake! How do you help people if you have no idea who has moved and when?" How could any reasonable business foresee that some worker would feel that the management knowing the stats would make her think that this is dehumanising? and honestly, who gives a rip if one random worker has an opinion. She isnt a manager. Why should she have any real knowledge of how to run a housing provider for hundreds or even thousands of people? shocking bias
@@truth.speaker : Did you know that in the restaurant sectors... there can be things like fake reviews? Or somebody, deliberately just enter the establishment, so that they are not totally lying.. and then make some bad comments. And THEN.. go online and MAKE those comments, and WRITE the reviews.. (without approval from the establishments)... and then basically berate them ? In actual fact... the restaurant owner COULD sue these people... Cos what these people ARE doing is basically.... a form of libel as well. And because.. these kind of things are online, the assumption is that..."this is NOT publishing"... but it IS !!!!! I have even seen, some kind of weird "club cards" companies...(and we know how club cards worked, back in its days... and these "private shopping clubs"... are NOT actually that legal either in the UK. Even though it is so in the USA....).... His issue is that, he is opened as a "charity", but his operations IS not the form of an actual charity ? So therefore, his registration must be a development company. So he MUST follow the accounting, and accountancy OF that of an actual development company. And we KNOW the business processes that follows an actual development company ? So what he has also done here is that, he is both the Director... and also an actual ... business owner.. and he also is , or seems to be taking money from the business pot of the money, into his own pocket, rather than an actual PAY. Unless he is registered as a sole trader.. and that he is doing this at the benefit of his own pockets.. I don't get it ? There ARE actually laws against this kind of thing. What he has done basically is used a building, and borrowed heavily... and then he cannot deal with these accounts.. and he has used the money, for different purposes.. and I bet you that this is not 100% legal... The rental agreement that he has taken, for these benefit claimers.. THEIR money, is TIED to a legal framework. So because he has taken the money, but not provided the services.. This effectively made him.. well.. he is in a loophole.. he can be sued. Actually. I don't know if this will be a case of the government's related and responsible dept that can sue him, or... All of this, is kind of related to how we also deregulated the sector... and even so... If it is not the State that can sue him. It can be the different central government dept that can take him to court.
@@MeiinUK all in all, here's the facts: The government says "we have troubled individuals - often criminals - who will be a nightmare to live with. They trash the place, take drugs and fight. We can't find somewhere to leave them, so we will pay £360 a week for someone to house them despite the problems" This guy says "it's a lot of extra work, but I'll accept it" He works without any complaints from any professional bodies. Passes literally dozens of inspections with absolutely no complaints. So the BBC do a hit piece on his saying "this guy is making money but a small number of the criminals he looks after have done bad things. He is to blame" I just see it as bias to the highest degree. That's why he always passes inspections He's working in a system of bad people. Is it his fault is the system is so full of troubled people? No!
@@MeiinUK and as for the charity things you mentioned - they are changing the structure as it offered no significant benefits to their work anyway You may not like it, but you may be crusading against the wrong dude
0:55 "is public money being used for private gain?" As that's the ENTIRE motivation behind EVERY policy in every tory government it would be shocking if it wasn't endemic throughout the rest of society too. 'ALL policy MUST either serve to increase private profit or, at the bare minimum, protect it." All welfare payments* are called 'transfer payments' because they transfer tax payer's money to businesses (~100% spent within the economy, NOT saved) in return for the bare minimum goods and services required to ensure the person's (the conduit) basic survival. (the death of (out of work) workers is bad for businesses as it reduces the pool of unemployed folks required to ensure wages are kept low. So, welfare payments increase/support business profits as well as keep folks from dying.) *(AKA: 'Benefits' in the UK ,though that term excludes state aged pensions which on their own make up approx 90% of all money used for UK welfare payments. A fact deviously and deliberately omitted by the UK's infamously right wing news media.)
Yes but they're working on getting people to snuff it earlier so they don't have to pay out pensions, failing that, raise the pension age. Remind me, what do we work for again?
Same here in Germany. Some sort of investors buy old, shabby real estates, does some cheap renovation, split the house into several apartments and sell them to people, who have not the slidest clou of what they're going to do.
Yes, I was reading they are taking over, particularly expanding into domestic abuse homelessness accommodation. those poor survivors!!! Solidarity Dragon! uk.news.yahoo.com/london-homeless-crisis-warning-private-111437445.html?
The term ‘exempt accommodation’ comes from the Housing Benefit and Council Tax Benefit (Consequential Provisions) Regulations 2006, so under a Labour Government.
John Morrow Yep! I don’t ever remember anyone being poor or homeless under Labour-ever! In fact, my out of work (since leaving school in 1979) neighbour has told me that he hates this government for the cost of living crises it has created. He’s worried that he might have to cut down on going to his local and watching his premiership team play. Still never mind, he’s got a beautiful, well insulated house to go home to and I’m sure that this evil government will help him out with his gas and electric bills-the bastards!
This is the problem we have in todays society . Quality has been replaced by greed 50 million isn’t enough they want a hundred million then when they get a hundred million they want a billion . Greeed greed greed
Looking at it as 'today's society' limits your view. This corruption is long-lived and has only mutated. The greed was always there, they just lacked the ability to grab at such a scale.
@@Capybarrrraaaa couldn't agree more . I'm from Liverpool and when I look at the buildings in the city centre they are of outstanding beauty . Built by shipping magnates built to " show off " how wealthy they were but now those same men/women wouldn't dream of building such beautiful buildings why ? They cost to much to build and it would only leave them with 500 million instead of 510 million . I think pride is the word I'm looking kind of what's mine is mine and what's yours I want ! Sorry I have no time for greed I've been wealthy but after a serious illness I littery gave away 99 % of my money and now live on what I need . How many ferrari do you want etc etc . Its a shame the world has lost its pride and empathy
Jobs for the boys, look at all the ones given to friends and donators to the tory government during the pandemic? Billions to business people with no experience or contacts?
Leaving a person struggling with mental heath problems for a weekend is beyond cruel. Death by a democracy that doesn't care, profit always before people.
@@truth.speaker it wasn't his family he informed of his crisis, it was his worker being paid as part of a support package. The fact they were claiming for housing support never mind personal care support is abhorrentt. Families aren't always the main or best support for numerous reasons. Especially when folk are striving to be independent but have additional needs. Whole reason for aupport/care packages.
@@bellamia5899 what makes you think he couldn't call the crisis team? What makes you think he didn't live perpetually with mess on the floor? And STILL, why had the family left him and were they not in touch daily? Why did the coroner rule MySpace had done nothing wrong? In the modern era, it has become normal to blame someone else when someone does something bad. Maybe it's time we start saying "this was a full grown adult. He made a bad choice. That's a tragedy. But it was him who did this. Not his landlord"?
@@truth.speaker My family dumped me on the street. I begged for them to help me but they were either too selfish or scared of my mental illness. So it was one of these places but after a bit I preferred been on my own on the street. I imagine it could've been the same for the man who sadly passed
@@truth.speaker I am afraid I have to agree with you there, people don't seem to care about family any more. You only have to see the benefits of strong families and people helping each other to illustrate this as is very apparent in some European cultures.
If you get lists off the councils of all the landlords who receive the most via housing benefits and match it with local crime data , you find the most prolific criminals in those areas tend to be high up on those council lists.
You can blame the Tories for allowing these companies to be private. Everything has become a lot worser than it was before since Tories were in government. Starmer is not the answer either. He's strongly against unions.
Unfortunately people in these type of situations are not welcome by private landlord and they're not a situation whereby council's don't want to take to responsibilities, so they fall inyo these type of corrupt charities that fill in the gap.
I'm Birmingham supported accommodation there are so many people making silly amounts of money They are milking the government. I'm 50 years old and have been pushed into this so called supported accommodation but guess what there is no support no help nothing at all. These people get paid 245 pounds a week for each room and then they charge us an extra 70 pounds a month for service charge. I'm sure there are some good ones about but very rare. I need a place of my own a one bedroom flat would be brilliant. Living in these shared houses is very depressing and very degrading. Iv moved 7 times now with the promise that it would be better at the new place but once you have signed the papers you find out its all the same. The government needs to do something about this and put a stop to these crooks who are making money by our misery and mental illness
This is going on worldwide and in pretty much every charity sector. Quick money. Zero care. LIke crack heads, but just the addiction to making money fast with no regard to human life.
I don't know any more about this for profit charity than in this video, but I do know a lot about mentally ill people, alcoholics and drug addicts. It's almost impossible for these people to find housing on the ordinary open market, no one will rent to them. Without charity companies like this, such people would be sleeping on the streets. Drug addicts die of overdoses, its the nature of this illness. As well alcoholics die from alcohol abuse, accidents, falls . I don't mean to sound unkind but it's typical of this illness. Nearly every mentally ill person has had at least one suicide attempt. Obviously some of their attempts will work and the person will die. It not the fault of the housing charity. If the person managed to get housing on the open market would they be any better off.? I think this documentary expects the charity to watch over the residents night and day like a nanny. If someone can't take care of themselves maybe they should be living in a nursing home. These people If you asked them would say they would rather be free , if it meant little oversight , than in a care home. I hope the tribunal that judges this charity, which I promise you I know nothing about them, will see no one wants to help these vulnerable people. Always the vulnerable are criticised and ignored. If this charity is making homes for them, then it's fantastic. Because no one wants to help them unless it's an easy job. And if the owner of the charity is a shrewd and clever businessman making millions while still helping the people no one else will help, then good for him. These parents saying I want my son cared for, but as long as its not YOU doing the caring, right ? Because its a very difficult task , all these categories of people are often rebellious and unruly at times. It IS the duty of society to care for its unfortunate or sick members of society. So if the parents, siblings, close friends won't help them, then at least throw your bloody money at this task so they have a damn roof over their heads. You don't mind spending ££ billions every year of tax payers money on weapons in the wars the UK is involved in to murder and take other countries oil on behalf of large oil barons, then criticise a nan who offers housing to the people NO ONE IN THIS COUNTRY / SOCIETY WILL HOUSE, simply because he's become successful for himself.
I’ve seen the inside of two Porchlight homeless hostiles. Pretty disgusting operation and one I wouldn’t prescribe. I have always felt exploited, but this goes way worse. The people I shared accommodation were all ‘vulnerable’, but those that were homeless knew how to work the system - get fixed and get back on the streets. No interest in securing their own homes and Porchlight knew this. I just got lumped in with those, and ex cons fresh out of jail. It shouldn’t be allowed, but what can you do? Shut one organisation another starts up in its place. There’s greed everywhere, and that cannot be fixed. Ever.
I think it’s really difficult as all of these organisations are understaffed and under budgeted for what they SHOULD do. They SHOULD see the people are cared for and that is what people think they do. It’s not. They make sure the people are housed and alive. If the people have problems, it’s SOMEONE ELSES PROBLEM, snd THAT organisation needs to responds quickly enough to help them. The poor man’s sister should have been phoned. She would have been the only person who would have come. Would SHE even have come because his flat was messy? I doubt it. It’s a failure of the complete system. From start to finish. Wrong people, wrong housing, wrong locations, no thought goes into any of it. Let’s just put this person with a phobia of public transport in this housing where she needs a train & bus journey 3 times a week to hospital to mental health. Great thinking.
It’s not a failure of the ‘system’ It’s the results of decades of breakdown of communities and civil society. The amount of charitable organisations covering Brighton and Hove (listed above) is truly staggering. If charities worked, there would be no homeless in that particular area. Haven’t you ever wondered why there are so many charities operating in the U.K. nowadays and yet we still have people who are homeless? Many (not all) are run as a business with some staff earning the sort of salaries and perks most people can only dream of-it’s no accident.
@@TheNobbynoonar that’s true. That’s the way to earn big, start a charity - the whole family can earn. But in the main, I think it’s the lack of connections between the gov & organisations & charities & yes, a lot of the charities are just big business. But it’s all gotten so complicated now…..probably just so no one can pinpoint who is to blame. But I do have to add, there are a lot of good charities and I work for a great one. I just think there are far too many gears in the bureaucracy machine to make it move fast enough to save people. I think people have to realise that people have to do it and not leave it to “someone else”.
That’s exact what I thought, lots of politicians benefit from our corrupt housing benefit system, and policies for the last 30 years to specifically prop up house prices, politicians will continue to be more and more corrupt because they just get away with it and there is no accountability
Theresa May's husband was on the Serco board of directors while she was PM. Look in to who Serco are and how much public money they get for what they "provide"
Once you are housed in one of these properties you are unable to try and get your life together by working as the rents ar wait high you can afford to lose the housing benefit.......they trap you into poverty.
@@HousingDan, yea we definitely need massive reform everywhere. This seems to be going on in UK, US, Canada….. more and more places. Our progressive Liberal governments are not helpful, they seem to be working with the super rich and powerful progressive people and the conservatives are just as bad for being weak. It’s a uni-party government everywhere. There is an explosion of homeless people, drug addiction, crime, bad behaviour, and progressive activists who are just making things worse. Having huge amount of immigration and hardly any new homes being built is definitely contributing to the problem. My only solution is that we have to raise standards, families need to take care of their own… you can’t expect others or the government to take care of your children. I can’t believe there are so many people these days that have to be told to take a shower, change their clothes, brush your teeth….. what happened? Why are there so many people who can’t cope with life. I have a close friend who has severe depression, if they lose their apartment… this would be their next step, a rooming house.
Yes they wanted me to live in one, I think I would be so much worse if I did due to the chaos and living environments. This is what happens the they have contracts, they control!
@@BenJAMin-o1i just about all gov procedures are taken over by private corporation service providers Wallace. In England it was Gordon Brown who said he was so thrilled by them in the private sector......that is banking and lending and debt collecting and ‘ charity’, he decided to implement the same system across the board of the government departments. The Land Titling Investment Private companies currently operating in NSW.............English Bank partners. USA digital services provider. Institutions like Hillsong score Tax Incentives from the Government Federal in Australia. Contracts for the charitable service providing companies Hillsong ‘invest’ in. Hillsong is big friends with our former Prime Minister. The company that scores on off and onshore Refugee Detention.......English Corporation.
It's just another part of the UK justice and government systems that don't work and run by inexperienced overpaid staff with job titles that are strangely invented How many people have you met and when they say their job title you have to ask What does that mean? As bad as it was made to look it went to court many times and nothing was achieved. Great Britain is no longer.
the UK is one of THE most corrupt , though, IF we only take into account nations in the 'developed' world. Which is not an unreasonable limitation to apply.
So why are we not all taking a stand and putting a stop to it, exposing more of bad eggs, highlighting the really good things people do to help homelessness services. 250 clients and never taken a penny. It wouldn't feel right. I think we have an opportunity with this energy crisis and billions going into wars and not on services, hospitals and the NHS, Building New council housing. we did it after WW2, why not again?
People with anti social behaviour are put together in a house. And surprise surprise you get anti social behaviour. A lot of charities feel more like businesses than they should.
I became street homeless in Brighton in 2013-14 and as a single white man aged 25-49 was told by Brighton and Hove Council Housing Team "we will only help if you cannot speak english and there is nobody else who can help you." I could make my own panorama special with my story of how I was given a single train ticket from Brighton to Birmingham with the promise of help and accommodation that turned out to be so bad I went back on the streets days after arriving. Birmingham were so much more advanced with their homeless fleecing put me in a room and claim less than £100 a week. Say it's supported living and get £247 a week. Oh, and the hostels took half our benefits money too.
@@18Ty To go camping and fishing? 😏 In feudally-owned Britain?? You'd have a lot "easier" time of it in the United States! It's certainly easier to live off the grid there...
1465 per month plus 40 quid a week service charge. In a 74 bed hostel in Birmingham. And there is no support. You can complain to the council. They won't do anything we are too important.
'The road to hell is paved with good intentions', there will always be people who take advantage of loopholes in the system, with no reguard for the outcome or the misery they cause.
it makes me so glad I qualify for a "no license" Tv license. means not only do i not have to chip in to pay for such stupid visual metaphors but if i choose to watch it i can watch it away from the BBC's viewership figures.
So basically there's quite a few people who became homeless in UK and might have died in Winter due to hypothermia caused by poverty and lack of shelter availability. Sick & corrupt people with cold hearts.
And as usual, the poorest and most vulnerable are used and thrown away 😂 these companies make me sick. We should be helping them and not making it worse.
That’s not even slightly a surprise, I was in shared housing for over a year and you’d have drug dealers working out of the home, I personally had to keep a towel close to me when I had a bath as often the door would get booted off the hinges so they can get in while your in the bath, at the time I was agoraphobic and had severe ptsd and anxiety and the council put me in that situation, with me was a girl with twins the council don’t care it’s all about numbers
@@noneofyourbizness our current government isn’t great no but the situations been the same a very very long time. I’m talking about 13 years ago but people like me where in those sort of situations before that. We have new homes being built for the elderly disabled( 55+ bungalows) but they exclude those who are younger and disabled which means we wait on the housing list a lot lot longer then needed in inappropriate housing conditions that mean if there was a fire we would burn alive because we can’t manage the stairs ect. They won’t put you in homes not adapted to be adapted but they don’t make homes that are adapted already for younger people. I was lucky and fought and got a elderly disabled bungalow but many aren’t so lucky and they’ll b on the list from high rise flats with stairs for a long long time. Our current offers for government we’ve had over the years I’ve no interest in voting for. Maybe depending on what they’ve actually been trying to do and there plans the greens. But atm we’re damned if we do damned if we don’t
Putting lots of vulnerable people in a house is a recipe for disaster. If we the taxpayers are paying for these contracts they owe it to us and the vulnerable people to ensure they get the necessary support they need. Ofcourse they can’t be supported every second of the day but a phone call or a check in with the tenants every so often could make all the difference if they are struggling. Then they could be referred to the relevant people that can best support them. Imagine this was your family that needed extra support. The fact that they take public money without helping these people is disgusting and immoral. The government are Ofcourse to blame as this practice is legal. Corruption top to bottom 😊
the "we will help next week" is unacceptable... need t9 have weekend helpers... if they reduced rent paid to by £50 they could provide support. I think the ppl involved in development of social housing shld be expected to rent out at a lower rate as part of the deal
took a few hours but decided to see how many charities we have here in Brighton and Hove Covering Homelessness in some way or, Here you go, ORGANISATION NAMEs:🤣🤣
Alcoholics Anonymous UK
Allsorts Youth Project
Antifreeze of the Off The Fence Charity
Arch Healthcare GP Surgery
BHFA - Brighton and Hove Faith in Action Multifaith Community Development
BHT Sussex
Arch Healthcare
BMECP
The Hummingbird Project
Brighton and Hove City Council
Brighton and Hove Housing Coalition
Brighton and Hove Library Service
Brighton and Hove Recovery College
FareShare Sussex
Brighton and Hove Street Pastors
Brighton and Hove Wellbeing Service NHS
Brighton Food Bank
Brighton Table Tennis Club
Brighton Women's Centre
Care for Our City
Cascade Creative Recovery
CGL Brighton Street Outreach Service
CGL Mentoring Service -
CGL Recovery Service
CGL St Thomas Fund
Choir With No Name -
Citizens Advice Brighton and Hove
Creative Future
Crossover Homelessness charity.
Deen Relief
Knight Support
Deen Relief
St Vincent's Centre, Brighton (Tower House)
Digital Brighton and Hove
Dogs Trust Hope Project
Elemel
Emmaus Brighton and Hove Working together to end homelessness.
Equinox, Brighton
Brighton Unemployed Centre Families Project (BUCFP)
EVOLVE
Gamblers Anonymous UK
Gathering Place Food Bank
Give Street Project
Grassroots Suicide Prevention
Invisible Voices of Brighton & Hove
Justlife - Brighton and Hove
Lawstop Solicitors
Making a Difference Programme
Mankind
Metropolitan Community Church Brighton
Mind in Brighton and Hove
MindOut
Community Works
Money Advice Plus
Narcotics Anonymous UK
Seaside CIC
National Careers Service
Navigate - Brighton TNBI Peer Support for TransMasculine people
New Note Projects
NSNO Assessment Hub (Brighton)
Oasis Project
Pathways to Health
Possability People
Preston Park Recovery Centre
Purple People Food Bank
Real Junk Food Brighton
Metropolitan Community Church Brighton
Rise UK
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Safe Haven Sussex
Safehaven
Saltdean Food Hub
Special Care Dental Service
SSAFA The Armed Forces Charity
St Annes Day Centre
St John Ambulance Brighton Homeless Service
St John Ambulance Brighton Homeless Service First Aid Charity
St Luke's Advice Service Debt and benefit advice service
Holland Road Baptist Church Church
St Mary Magdalen - Coldean
St Mary's Church (CofE),
Staying Well Service -
Survivors' Network
Sussex Homeless Support
Sussex Nightstop Short,
Terrence Higgins Trust -
The Brighton and Hove Food Partnership
The Clock Tower Sanctuary
The Running Charity
The Salvation Army Brighton Congress Hall Church
The Trust for Developing Communities (TDC)
Transition and Resettlement Service Supporting people into independent accommodation
UK Homes For Heroes Supporting homeless ex-service personnel
Vision Care for Homeless People
Voices in Exile
Weald Community Food Centre
Whitehawk Foodbank
Woodingdean Food Hub
YMCA DownsLink Group -
YMCA
Youth Employment Hub
Hells beard, that is a lot. Brighton is a magnet for the homeless though, quieter than London and better views? Or could it be Brighton is known as a good place to be homeless due to all the charities, a self fulfilling prophecy? Haven't been homeless for years so can't say 100%.
That’s not surprising . 22 years ago three prominent uk homeless charities talked about amalgamation/merger. After 18 months and a lot of tier 1 consultants costs it was scrapped. Ego’s of three CEO’s and boards could not agree. Just think 3 of everything before any funds got to service delivery~ 3 head offices with exec staff, 3 sets of corporate systems, telephone, brochures, internet etc etc
Wow! Definitely need to get myself into the ‘charity’ business.
All them? And I had to be moved to Birmingham to get help... I've known it was a sham since 2013-14.
And you pay less tax if you are a charity some don't pay any and get help with donation and Grant's.
Homelessness pays
The privatization of what should be social services has proved to be a dreadful idea. Exploiting both taxpayers and those in need of social housing. Stupid idea from the get go.
This is what happens when you privatize social services. You allowing private companies to provide social care and support, what do you think they're going to do? Make profit and cut costs to maximise that profit. I hope the people of this country are connecting the dots, how all of these current crises could have been avoided if our services hadn't been privatized?
Social housing, social care and drug addiction "services" have been privatised for years. They call themselves "charities" but essentially they are private companies raking in lucrative government contracts . The service they provide isn't a patch on what it used to be years ago, but then that's true of GP "services", the police etc etc. If you want to see a DR it can take days to get an appointment, the police "service" is a fucking joke, our local police station is shut, for a non emergency issue you have to fill in a form online, the government sold off our local magistrates court, local social care has been cut to the bone. So why do people keep voting for this? Both political parties sold out to big business and the mega rich years ago, I for one am not a happy "consumer".
Because unfortunately a lot of voters are just plain stupid and brainwashed and STILL the penny hasnt dropped for them and most likely never will.
Days for a doctor? Try weeks here in the south east buddy
Most people like me dont even bother anymore unless its absolutely essential
I wonder in a general strike could be that tip of the iceberg. people need to come back together again, we are seeing a record number of suicides locally and something happened in 2016 when they went up up up!!
@@HousingDan What would help is a decent leader of the Labour party with a cogent long term policy. Someone to stand up and defy the elite who run the country instead of tiptoeing around like a frightened rabbit. The BBC are running scared too, the print media are one sided and I think social media keeps people locked inside a bubble. It's the perfect tool for social control and disharmony.
"we are seeing a record number of suicides locally and something happened in 2016 when they went up up up!!" Despair due to Brexit? 6 years of Tory austerity? The quality of heroin has gone down badly since then, puzzler, it's a conundrum. Keep upthe good work....DA.
What people fail to realise that most of the housing charities are the actual exploiters but yet act innocent victims, and they wander why their properties get trashed.
Exploiting what, the judge stated the rents were appropriate and the Coroner said the deaths were not down to the charity.
@@zanderzoot they do exploit those people shouldn't have to live bunched up like that, that's why the trouble happens, they need their own homes not an open prison.
@@son_of_stan They get their own apartments within such properties.
Also, sourcing appropriate housing is desperately difficult.
Have you any experience in the industry?
@@zanderzoot yes i know a large amount of substance addicted low income people, but I'm in scotland where we give more help for these people and don't allow folk to go profiteering off their situation, putting them next to others who might be dealing, so we spread them out into normal communities which causes them to have better reform outcomes, what these guys are up to is shameless, and one 3rd of the Tory party are landlords which is a bit of a coincidence.
@@son_of_stan oh what and Scotland has never experienced a provision with an incompatible cohort?
The fees charged to house these vulnerable individuals is within the legal boundaries.
The comparison to the Tory party is a little unfair.
Are you suggesting some Labour party members are not owners of properties that are rented out?
A few years ago I ended up in a place like this and it was a golden ticket for the “charity” and landlord of the building, a house worth maximum 250k had every room turned into a bedroom, no communal place except the kitchen, they took £280 per room per week, yet you still had to pay £25 a week housekeeping that covered a cleaner and some basics like cereal and tea and coffee, if you benefits went up you paid £50 per week ! There was no internet (we had to arrange and pay ourselves) once a week a person came round to check on all the tenants but their main concern was your current benefit amount and collecting in cash your housekeeping! This place housed 7 people that’s 84k a year ! It’s an absolute racket!
Why didn't you go on strike with your payments, to make them give you Internet? I would have! (But I can see what you mean about the exploitation.)
Trident in Birmingham bought an old retirement complex and had 99 of us there costing £24,453 in housing benefits. They got an extra £50 for each ex-offender they took in and £3712.50 a week from our benefits for basic food (most of which was delivered from fareshare so didn't cost them anything). That's about 1.5million annually. They had started moving people into student accommodation when I managed to get out and given how lucrative that was I wouldn't be surprised if they had expanded on that as well as the tower block and housing estate they own...
Perhaps Panorama can do an episode on those becoming millionaires from the scamdemic
Their millionaires programme needs to be a LOT higher standard of journalism, than that fake episode they did on "Antisemitism in the Labour Party." #ItWasAScam 😏
"Is public money being used for private gain?"...cmon mate, its gotta be well over a thousand years since that was even a question!
In Washington state in the US we have this "non-profit" called LIHI Low income housing institute. Years back a local news station did a profile on the head of it. Some lady who drives a Bentley owns a few multi million dollar houses. Its all a scam. I hate these people.
that's basically my stereotype of charitable organizations. emotional manipulation, extract money, get rich.
locally I see so much money pumped into these services, they're often quite hostile, hence personally I'd like to see a stronger state and more accountability. Here in the UK Charities are exempt from the freedom of information Act, for me that's not right, as they are often in receipt of large amounts of public money. Cant see any party we have currently in the UK doing any mass reforms. it will be business as usual.
@@HousingDan Is that so? Yes, that's bad, and should be changed. 👍
'We ask, is public money being exploited for private gain' - yes. In literally everything at the minute. Look no further than the current cost of living crisis and energy. Or even water for that matter.
100% I lived it, felt bad enough struggling at the bottom .. just to be ripped off for sometimes something as small as a room. Benefits pay these people way more than they’d pay us individually for a place to live, as well as tenants also paying “service charges” on top. Makes no sense, just makes the rich richer and poor poorer.
Everyone on this chat is focused on the charity making money and no one is even acknowledging the tenants destroying the property. Hello! Of course businesses shouldn't be ripping tax payers off, BUT tenants should also not be squandering and wasting tax payer's money. How can some of the tenants complain about the conditions when they are not looking after the premises? It's not realistic to keep paying for repairs. Simultaneously, if you try to get tenants clean from their addiction through institutionalisation as they cannot function by themselves (during a crisis) you're vilified for dehumanising people. Families cannot manage to look after their loved ones so how can companies that do not see them 24/7 also manage? The issue here is that tax money should be funding the mental health services that the government has been shutting down over the last decade! Poverty also needs to be addressed so that people are not forced into homelessness or into addictions out of sheer desperation and bleak prospects. This is a structural societal-wide problem with every public service from housing, education, healthcare, the penal system and more.
I stayed in supported housing for 2years until I got my own council flat. As one of only 3 females in a 19 room building, the thinks that went on were so frightening. There was no staff at weekends, I was terrified at times and considered taking my own life. I'm so lucky I made it out of there..
Glad you have moved on. This story sounds like mine, scary places. No support, just security guards. Ive currently got two female clients whom were raped in Brighton and Hove City Council Homelessness Accommodation.
That sounds like a complete nightmare! I thought mine was bad but if you're female it's even worse. I had a rough experience in the place I was and even though Im male I still got attacked. My mental illness made me vulnerable. I decided I'd rather sleep in a disused car park. I was safer there and it was quiet. I refused everything and stayed on the street until they put me in my own flat.
That is terrible! It is terrible for a woman especially, to be put in a position where she does not feel safe. 🙁
@@HousingDan Oh no!
@@a4paper754 Oh my goodness!
This is happening to me right now I'm Autistic and I've not had any help in 7 months. The system is overwhelmed and it's getting worse.
I recall one of my elderly mother's best friends was married to a high st bank manager. He was very good at his job, but he was also a very decent, honest sort of chap, and he got promoted up in the bank he worked for, to a new position, handling business with a whole load of charities like these, and it basically gave him a nervous breakdown. He didn't want to say much about it, other than they were horrible people to deal with and he thought they were all corrupt. Anyway, that was back in the 90's, so I imagine it's probably a whole lot worse these days.
You have to look very closely at the goals of a charity to understand what might be happening. The problem in the 1990s was that charities were set up specifically to get control of public money and assets. Buildings that were owned by the council could be brought extremely cheaply, or managed in exchange for a service that the council needed. Some are money grabbing. Others are motivated by a need to control; there are some pretty strange charities out there who don't make money because they only exist to "oppose X, Y & Z". You're absolutely right. These are horrible people who don't help anyone. Which begs the question why are they allowed the status of charities?
@@GlasPthalocyanine Oh yes, there are some pretty strange organisations that enjoy charity status, in this country, from elitist private schools, for people who aren't short of a bob or two, to right wing think tanks, masquerading as academic institutions, which seem to exist purely to spread misinformation and incite hatred, none of which seem particularly charitable by nature.
"Is public money being exploited for private gain?"
YES AND IT'S EVERYWHERE!!!!
@@VeryIntellijent It's like 2008/2009, the govt funded companies to help people being made redundant gain new skills, £750 per head, for a 2 day course that didn't teach you anything and didn't give you any industry recognised certification. In fact when I turned it down, I was told I didn't even need to attend. Training companies owned by friends and family of people in govt.
This country is complete joke, they're syphoning public money off though dodgy businesses owned by those holding the purse strings, whether it's charities or otherwise.
Its called a "Scam"nothing new and very sad!
The business of charity and public service in the uk finally comes to light 🙏
Following a freedom of information request, The Financial Times reported that 'UK residents had £850bn in financial accounts overseas - of which £570bn was based in tax havens - in 2019, the latest year HMRC has released statistics for. ' The figures come from financial data shared by more than 100 countries with HRMC.
I would suggest that it's the best place for the money, as far away from the incompetent UK government as possible. In the past 30 months the UK government has borrowed and mispent around £400 billion, a burden now hanging like a millstone on the necks of the UK taxpayer.
The shocked and pained expression on the face of the presenter is priceless.
The BBC seriously condemning someone making money off the poor? Talk about about hypocrites.
what are you talking about ?
@@paulinskipukprogressive4903 They are talking about the licensing fee
Yeah, true.
Says the man who probably spends £80 month on sky to watch 10 minutes worth of adverts per hour
BBC is pretty good value for what your getting.
Problem is local authorities selling council properties under right to buy (thank you Margaret Thatcher) and not replacing them. The private sector will have profit as its main objective and is happily filling the void left.
Build more government owned housing.
Give migrants the right to work while asylum claims are being processed.
Employ local housing officers to check on the standards of rental properties- this is happening in some areas.
I would blame the government - current and historic - for not fixing the problems in housing for decades. They have lined the pockets of private landlords and there chums for too long. They rely on the population to blame each other and look down on those less fortunate and more successful while they do nothing.
Who are you. You have your finger directly on the post! I fully agree with all your points here! Whats your involvement in this manic housing climate? Affected ?
I'm in housing. Temporary accomodation, supported housing, care, asylum and investments. I cover the whole area but would not consider myself some greedy capitalist but someomr offering a service. No doubt I could be vilified by the BBC but they've presented a skewed and misleading view of the whole problem. The comments section show successful they are in misleading and misguiding the masses - blame the rich guy when it's actually a lot deeper than that.
We house those that the system and government has failed. We make a profit but take the good and the bad when it comes to tenants. Properties wrecked because even the homeless have a sense of entitlement.
Its a crazy situation but my view is articulated in my previous comment.
@@abydx Yes, certainly there are a few. we have a particular provider here locally, who well let's just say has made a lot of money, but I remember once, I met the owner, we are talking about a property portfolio of close to £150m. She would keep visual records due to some of the things a minority of tenants were doing to their homes, but again none of them had supported it was just security guards. there is a wider issue with addictions and mental health here and then the fact that well you need to have a vulnerability pretty much to secure housing. For me, we need not these places to come back in-house, a better direction of funds and more agencies and partners, those with lived experience, helping some of these people. High death counts in these places in the UK.
We provide homes to individuals that would otherwise be in hospital and therefore blocking beds. The care packages are often 1 to 1 24 hours a day. We are not able to get away with not doing our job vs some of the low level support needed for less vulnerable people.
The abuse of the housing benefit system in terms of exempt rents is more on the low level supported housing market and this should be investigated. The housing association is right that it doesn't need to be regulated and is therefore de-registering. The rents are determined based on a number of factors and they are often justified. The problem is the rents actually being spent correctly and honestly.
Mental health and other circumstances in which people need supported housing is a problem that is much deeper than housing. The breakdown of the family unit being one. Like I said these are extremely complex matters and I fear that society has just broken down to much for anyone in power to really care or be able to do anything about it.
There will be good people that try and do good work but ultimately success is more often than not judged by the car your drive and the street you live on. Everyone else can kind of go to hell and the panorama episode is a damning indictment of that.
@@abydxIn Brighton and Hove we have seen those in supported accommodation skyrocket from like 200 to over 700 units now, the vast majority are not even assessed under the housing act, so are in fact hidden homeless. as licence agreements are not security. A few have criticised the low support provided. I have personally seen a lot of people move on with their lives after homelessness here in Brighton and Hove, primarily from my backing and support around advocacy and campaigning to get them the housing they need. There are so many more who don't get this and that's sad as only one man.
again interesting points and areas in which stories need to be told. who would you say are the major beneficiaries of this sector?
“What shall it profit a man to gain the whole world and lose his own soul”
These people will one day throw their money out as rubbish.
Greed is NOT good..
They will be accountable one day; before THE ONE, True and Mighty King, The LORD JESUS CHRIST.
Nothing will be done. Nothing. Tories won't change it and Labour are to inept and impotent.
Until we reject the two parties that no longer represent us this corruption will continue. We need both parties cleaned out and corporate power removed from our democracies. They've rigged the entire system in their favour. Against the rest of us. People are waking up though.
ALL THE MONEY we spend on homelessness across the world! THERE shouldn't be ONE person without a home!
100 % man ✊
Jeremy Corbyn was promising to crack the problem! While still Leader Of the Opposition, he shamed the Tories into giving homeless people a roof during Covid. The next year, after Keir was in, the pressure was off, so the Government conveniently forgot...😏
I live in one, it costs £163 per week rent for a room, and NO SUPPORT!
People are waking up, hang in there 👍
How utterly disgusting
Long and short of it is UNTIL people realise 'charities' are there just to make money by playing on people's genoristy - nothing will change. The directors and those at the top pay themselves ridiculous amounts of money while those charity shop staff probably get minimal wage etc.
I remember an advert for some children's thing by Ewan Magregor (trainspotting bloke) acting all meek and mild and begging people to help - the next advert was him advertising some damn holiday company - total hypocritical bollox these people are, getting a fortune from both adverts no doubt
You're on the money. Sadly, this will not change anytime soon, until there is a revolution, which forces these institutions to be accountable to an anonymous group of scrupulous individuals who have their hearts set on doing good.
A lack the political will is understandable coz they are comfortable. A benevolent dictator is the need of our times.
Whats the point of democracy when the choice is between bullshit n 🐄 cowshit. The outcome is shit either ways.
It will never stop, look at Children In Need the biggest charity scam ever and people still fall for it every year, Wogan made a fortune from it.
All that about Ewan McGregor may very well be true.
But: 1) Charity SHOP staff don't get paid: never have and STILL don't, AFAIK. (I think post-pandemic some noises have been made, but.) They are VOLUNTEERS. As are the people who rattle those tins! 🙂
2) NOT all charities are bad, or a way of offering lucrative jobs to poshos! (Though we know David Miliband went off to be a charity CEO in the US, nuff said!)
Many smaller local charities for instance do a good job (I have seen other cynical people on other TH-cam comments threads say! 🙂) and their full-time staff and management get paid relatively little. Hospices would be a good example.
And - what about people like the RNLI? Unless you want to get all "Farage" about them... 😏
Yea and no it depends on the charity. Some are literally voulenteer services some are community farms so people pay a small amount every year and use the facilities and grow your own. Soup cafe from there own produce with a small charge for the soup, free food for people in need when they have bounty crops and give to the food banks regularly. But yea a lot of charities are hence why I like to rehome my goods myself and a lot of people say no cold callers.
@@oneoflokis some people voulenteer but there are still those who get payed ie managers and there boss and there bosses boss and so on look up the figures they get payed extortionate amounts out of the charities income
The services in the uk in social housing are Disgusting
Thousands of charities are a business.
A clear example of sharing a country/nationality does not necessarily make everyone each other's friends nor does it mean that people care about each other. Capitalists care for their pockets only.
I’m afraid this is why I don’t give to charity unless I know the charity personally and can see exactly where the money goes. Many charity operators just pay themselves huge salaries with the collected money. It’s sickening.
If you are an English man and homeless tonight. There is no help anywhere. No charity will help you.
Sadly the agenda is literally to kill millions of through poverty and starvation.
Worth just chucking your passport into the channel and claiming 'refugee' status.
@@johnturner3455 if it happened to me again, that is an option. I just wouldn't speak and get fed and clothed.
Except Corbyn did: but he had to stand down as Leader Of The Opposition!
@@oneoflokis Labour flooded this country with shit and caused the biggest strain on public services. We are still paying for the last lot.
They all profit from the homeless, the only reason we have homeless is because it’s based on a business model the government are part of this and have full knowledge off this and so are the so called non 4 profit businesses.
Such as the ymca charges around £2000 per month per person, these charges range from normal charges such as rent, services charges etc.
But then the tax payer also has to pay from 50p-£3 per time in there rooms such as carpet, and all furniture but all furniture is donated to them FREE OF CHARGE, so technically the YMCA are profiting off good which cost them zero,
It the same as the food they make profits from the food they provide there tenants. The whole system is set up as a business to be honest nearly everything in this world is set up as a business with no care off the effects there actions have on the vulnerable.
Well build council housing then and dont sell them off if the tax woman is to benefit from it instead
Where was the regulating body to stop this con artist
Wow this is very disgusting. Exploiting vulnerable individuals for money 🤮
Just the tip of the iceberg!!
50 % of all UK State assistants budget is housing benefit
Every city or town in the UK will have at least one or more of these types of HMO's. I have stopped in a MySpace and it messed up my life and was doing better on the street than living in one of their HMO's.
I thought that MySpace was an old-fashioned social network!! 😄😄
@@oneoflokis yeah but these are much worse for your life.
I had just come out of a rehab and was living on the streets but still staying clean( 3 months at this point) I was placed in one of these HMO'S with two dealers, one in front of me and one more nextdoor.
Before I move in I told them I was in recovery they said it will be fine just stay away from people like that.
@@b00ts4ndc4ts Oh no! 🙁 Not very helpful of them..
@@oneoflokis and their using your money to pay for this. Put very valuable people and those who choose to sell drugs in the same buildings to the cost of your taxes.
Well, it seems that Paul was doing nothing illegal!
I would ask why is he being singled out when *so many* large charities (& public organisations) have ridiculously high wage bills for individuals within those organisations (including the BBC). I find it very difficult to count all the individuals who 'earn' well over £¼Million/year!
Where is the justification?
Because some of these charities or UK registered, have gone onto international level charity businesses... ? And originally, they were created.. in conjunction as a representation.. of UK, in the UN's arenas ? That is why they broker deals with other countries, and Africa or whatever... That is what they do ? But yes, charities within the UK is also important as well. I get the impression that, some of these so called charities, do not know how to run them. Maybe there IS no need for this specific charity.... In fact, there are at least 2-3 charities, with BETTER facilities, that could do the job, and for them to do the job as well. The problem is that, many individuals in the UK, even if they work for a charity, even charities FIGHT amongst themselves for the exact SAME budget? And budgets never comes fast enough... So this is why.. small businesses, like this is starting to pop out of the woodwork. If that man has a machete, then it means that, they may have some kind of mental traumas already. I do not know the case for this man.. and his background.. but clearly, he needed specialist care? And not necessarily housing per se ? Sometimes, some of these are ex-employees of different organisations and entities.. and they really needed specialist support afterwards... Sometimes, food, and sleep, is the first healing point. Just giving somebody housing, without changing their brain's chemistry and neural network, cos they have been doing certain jobs for an awfully long long long time... I think.. Well... Cut off point. Really, that cut off point has to come. Not soon enough.
I can honestly say I've never seen such blatant bias as I have seen in this documentary. They repeatedly make vague claims that "this random person thinks he's not breaking the law but it's unethical" yet they give no actual examples of his actions being unethical. They have a 5 minute segment on how bad his workers are, only to conclude with the short comment that they have passed dozens of checks from professionals and had absolutely 0 complaints or problems when examined by professionals in their field. It's comparable to picking a restaurant with a 5 star hygiene rating and 100% perfect reviews and saying "but this random worker feels the kitchen _wasn't up to scratch"_ yet the random worker has no ability to judge these things.
Even when they say 'this random worker thought it dehumanised people because the company asked for a weekly report on how many moves had happened' it's like "mate, really? For goodness sake! How do you help people if you have no idea who has moved and when?" How could any reasonable business foresee that some worker would feel that the management knowing the stats would make her think that this is dehumanising? and honestly, who gives a rip if one random worker has an opinion. She isnt a manager. Why should she have any real knowledge of how to run a housing provider for hundreds or even thousands of people?
shocking bias
@@truth.speaker : Did you know that in the restaurant sectors... there can be things like fake reviews? Or somebody, deliberately just enter the establishment, so that they are not totally lying.. and then make some bad comments. And THEN.. go online and MAKE those comments, and WRITE the reviews.. (without approval from the establishments)... and then basically berate them ? In actual fact... the restaurant owner COULD sue these people... Cos what these people ARE doing is basically.... a form of libel as well. And because.. these kind of things are online, the assumption is that..."this is NOT publishing"... but it IS !!!!! I have even seen, some kind of weird "club cards" companies...(and we know how club cards worked, back in its days... and these "private shopping clubs"... are NOT actually that legal either in the UK. Even though it is so in the USA....)....
His issue is that, he is opened as a "charity", but his operations IS not the form of an actual charity ? So therefore, his registration must be a development company. So he MUST follow the accounting, and accountancy OF that of an actual development company. And we KNOW the business processes that follows an actual development company ? So what he has also done here is that, he is both the Director... and also an actual ... business owner.. and he also is , or seems to be taking money from the business pot of the money, into his own pocket, rather than an actual PAY. Unless he is registered as a sole trader.. and that he is doing this at the benefit of his own pockets.. I don't get it ? There ARE actually laws against this kind of thing. What he has done basically is used a building, and borrowed heavily... and then he cannot deal with these accounts.. and he has used the money, for different purposes.. and I bet you that this is not 100% legal... The rental agreement that he has taken, for these benefit claimers.. THEIR money, is TIED to a legal framework. So because he has taken the money, but not provided the services.. This effectively made him.. well.. he is in a loophole.. he can be sued. Actually. I don't know if this will be a case of the government's related and responsible dept that can sue him, or... All of this, is kind of related to how we also deregulated the sector... and even so... If it is not the State that can sue him. It can be the different central government dept that can take him to court.
@@MeiinUK all in all, here's the facts:
The government says "we have troubled individuals - often criminals - who will be a nightmare to live with. They trash the place, take drugs and fight. We can't find somewhere to leave them, so we will pay £360 a week for someone to house them despite the problems"
This guy says "it's a lot of extra work, but I'll accept it"
He works without any complaints from any professional bodies. Passes literally dozens of inspections with absolutely no complaints. So the BBC do a hit piece on his saying "this guy is making money but a small number of the criminals he looks after have done bad things. He is to blame"
I just see it as bias to the highest degree. That's why he always passes inspections
He's working in a system of bad people. Is it his fault is the system is so full of troubled people? No!
@@MeiinUK and as for the charity things you mentioned - they are changing the structure as it offered no significant benefits to their work anyway
You may not like it, but you may be crusading against the wrong dude
0:55
"is public money being used for private gain?"
As that's the ENTIRE motivation behind EVERY policy in every tory government it would be shocking if it wasn't endemic throughout the rest of society too.
'ALL policy MUST either serve to increase private profit or, at the bare minimum, protect it."
All welfare payments* are called 'transfer payments' because they transfer tax payer's money to businesses (~100% spent within the economy, NOT saved) in return for the bare minimum goods and services required to ensure the person's (the conduit) basic survival.
(the death of (out of work) workers is bad for businesses as it reduces the pool of unemployed folks required to ensure wages are kept low. So, welfare payments increase/support business profits as well as keep folks from dying.)
*(AKA: 'Benefits' in the UK ,though that term excludes state aged pensions which on their own make up approx 90% of all money used for UK welfare payments. A fact deviously and deliberately omitted by the UK's infamously right wing news media.)
Yes but they're working on getting people to snuff it earlier so they don't have to pay out pensions, failing that, raise the pension age. Remind me, what do we work for again?
He should be in The Cabinet. He’d fit right in.
Why intrusive irritating needless background music in a documentary?
It stops people like myself watch for 2 minutes!
harder and harder to understand why government retains the privilege to tax.
without our taxes/assets tory would have NOTHING to hand out to the rich...which would leave it with NOTHING to do at all.
Tonight on panorama we investigate the BBC. 🇬🇧👍🤣😂
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Imagine not trusting anything or anyone?
Same here in Germany.
Some sort of investors buy old, shabby real estates, does some cheap renovation, split the house into several apartments and sell them to people, who have not the slidest clou of what they're going to do.
Yes, I was reading they are taking over, particularly expanding into domestic abuse homelessness accommodation. those poor survivors!!! Solidarity Dragon! uk.news.yahoo.com/london-homeless-crisis-warning-private-111437445.html?
Only to be expected in this tory run system scam after scam after scam .
The term ‘exempt accommodation’ comes from the Housing Benefit and Council Tax Benefit (Consequential Provisions) Regulations 2006, so under a Labour Government.
@Gammons Trout Yeah, War Is Peace, Freedom Is Slavery, and Ignorance Is Strength. Words mean whatever I want them to mean.
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Yep! I don’t ever remember anyone being poor or homeless under Labour-ever! In fact, my out of work (since leaving school in 1979) neighbour has told me that he hates this government for the cost of living crises it has created. He’s worried that he might have to cut down on going to his local and watching his premiership team play. Still never mind, he’s got a beautiful, well insulated house to go home to and I’m sure that this evil government will help him out with his gas and electric bills-the bastards!
Unfortunately it is really easy to con local councils as most are so badly run.
They seem to offer the service for the government set price. Where is the con?
Think before you type you clown. 🤦♂️
I worked for a similar company & that's why I finished working for them
Putting people with these types of problems together with so little support is a really stupid idea .
You cannot really blame MySpace for scumbags trashing a property.
This is the problem we have in todays society . Quality has been replaced by greed 50 million isn’t enough they want a hundred million then when they get a hundred million they want a billion . Greeed greed greed
Looking at it as 'today's society' limits your view. This corruption is long-lived and has only mutated. The greed was always there, they just lacked the ability to grab at such a scale.
@@Capybarrrraaaa couldn't agree more . I'm from Liverpool and when I look at the buildings in the city centre they are of outstanding beauty . Built by shipping magnates built to " show off " how wealthy they were but now those same men/women wouldn't dream of building such beautiful buildings why ? They cost to much to build and it would only leave them with 500 million instead of 510 million . I think pride is the word I'm looking kind of what's mine is mine and what's yours I want ! Sorry I have no time for greed I've been wealthy but after a serious illness I littery gave away 99 % of my money and now live on what I need . How many ferrari do you want etc etc . Its a shame the world has lost its pride and empathy
@@VeryIntellijent couldn't agree more
Happening in all western countries.
the UK is one of the worst though. probably because our tory governments behave that way it gives other criminal filth an excuse to do the same
Jobs for the boys, look at all the ones given to friends and donators to the tory government during the pandemic? Billions to business people with no experience or contacts?
Leaving a person struggling with mental heath problems for a weekend is beyond cruel. Death by a democracy that doesn't care, profit always before people.
Where was his family?
@@truth.speaker it wasn't his family he informed of his crisis, it was his worker being paid as part of a support package. The fact they were claiming for housing support never mind personal care support is abhorrentt. Families aren't always the main or best support for numerous reasons. Especially when folk are striving to be independent but have additional needs. Whole reason for aupport/care packages.
@@bellamia5899 what makes you think he couldn't call the crisis team?
What makes you think he didn't live perpetually with mess on the floor?
And STILL, why had the family left him and were they not in touch daily?
Why did the coroner rule MySpace had done nothing wrong?
In the modern era, it has become normal to blame someone else when someone does something bad. Maybe it's time we start saying "this was a full grown adult. He made a bad choice. That's a tragedy. But it was him who did this. Not his landlord"?
@@truth.speaker My family dumped me on the street. I begged for them to help me but they were either too selfish or scared of my mental illness. So it was one of these places but after a bit I preferred been on my own on the street. I imagine it could've been the same for the man who sadly passed
@@truth.speaker I am afraid I have to agree with you there, people don't seem to care about family any more. You only have to see the benefits of strong families and people helping each other to illustrate this as is very apparent in some European cultures.
If you get lists off the councils of all the landlords who receive the most via housing benefits and match it with local crime data , you find the most prolific criminals in those areas tend to be high up on those council lists.
Why would that be?
We have a big problem with greedy people who think people are things
Modern Slavery!
You can blame the Tories for allowing these companies to be private. Everything has become a lot worser than it was before since Tories were in government. Starmer is not the answer either. He's strongly against unions.
Unfortunately people in these type of situations are not welcome by private landlord and they're not a situation whereby council's don't want to take to responsibilities, so they fall inyo these type of corrupt charities that fill in the gap.
The third sector...
No different to what the government does.
I'm Birmingham supported accommodation there are so many people making silly amounts of money
They are milking the government. I'm 50 years old and have been pushed into this so called supported accommodation but guess what there is no support no help nothing at all. These people get paid 245 pounds a week for each room and then they charge us an extra 70 pounds a month for service charge. I'm sure there are some good ones about but very rare. I need a place of my own a one bedroom flat would be brilliant. Living in these shared houses is very depressing and very degrading. Iv moved 7 times now with the promise that it would be better at the new place but once you have signed the papers you find out its all the same. The government needs to do something about this and put a stop to these crooks who are making money by our misery and mental illness
This is going on worldwide and in pretty much every charity sector. Quick money. Zero care. LIke crack heads, but just the addiction to making money fast with no regard to human life.
It is not a coincidence that David Cameron and his Conservative Government came into power in 2010.
I don't know any more about this for profit charity than in this video, but I do know a lot about mentally ill people, alcoholics and drug addicts. It's almost impossible for these people to find housing on the ordinary open market, no one will rent to them. Without charity companies like this, such people would be sleeping on the streets. Drug addicts die of overdoses, its the nature of this illness. As well alcoholics die from alcohol abuse, accidents, falls . I don't mean to sound unkind but it's typical of this illness. Nearly every mentally ill person has had at least one suicide attempt. Obviously some of their attempts will work and the person will die. It not the fault of the housing charity. If the person managed to get housing on the open market would they be any better off.? I think this documentary expects the charity to watch over the residents night and day like a nanny. If someone can't take care of themselves maybe they should be living in a nursing home. These people If you asked them would say they would rather be free , if it meant little oversight , than in a care home. I hope the tribunal that judges this charity, which I promise you I know nothing about them, will see no one wants to help these vulnerable people. Always the vulnerable are criticised and ignored. If this charity is making homes for them, then it's fantastic. Because no one wants to help them unless it's an easy job. And if the owner of the charity is a shrewd and clever businessman making millions while still helping the people no one else will help, then good for him. These parents saying I want my son cared for, but as long as its not YOU doing the caring, right ? Because its a very difficult task , all these categories of people are often rebellious and unruly at times. It IS the duty of society to care for its unfortunate or sick members of society. So if the parents, siblings, close friends won't help them, then at least throw your bloody money at this task so they have a damn roof over their heads. You don't mind spending ££ billions every year of tax payers money on weapons in the wars the UK is involved in to murder and take other countries oil on behalf of large oil barons, then criticise a nan who offers housing to the people NO ONE IN THIS COUNTRY / SOCIETY WILL HOUSE, simply because he's become successful for himself.
I’ve seen the inside of two Porchlight homeless hostiles. Pretty disgusting operation and one I wouldn’t prescribe.
I have always felt exploited, but this goes way worse. The people I shared accommodation were all ‘vulnerable’, but those that were homeless knew how to work the system - get fixed and get back on the streets. No interest in securing their own homes and Porchlight knew this. I just got lumped in with those, and ex cons fresh out of jail.
It shouldn’t be allowed, but what can you do? Shut one organisation another starts up in its place. There’s greed everywhere, and that cannot be fixed. Ever.
Corruption of this type is disgusting
I think it’s really difficult as all of these organisations are understaffed and under budgeted for what they SHOULD do. They SHOULD see the people are cared for and that is what people think they do. It’s not. They make sure the people are housed and alive. If the people have problems, it’s SOMEONE ELSES PROBLEM, snd THAT organisation needs to responds quickly enough to help them. The poor man’s sister should have been phoned. She would have been the only person who would have come. Would SHE even have come because his flat was messy? I doubt it.
It’s a failure of the complete system. From start to finish. Wrong people, wrong housing, wrong locations, no thought goes into any of it. Let’s just put this person with a phobia of public transport in this housing where she needs a train & bus journey 3 times a week to hospital to mental health. Great thinking.
Total moral bankruptcy!
It’s not a failure of the ‘system’
It’s the results of decades of breakdown of communities and civil society. The amount of charitable organisations covering Brighton and Hove (listed above) is truly staggering. If charities worked, there would be no homeless in that particular area. Haven’t you ever wondered why there are so many charities operating in the U.K. nowadays and yet we still have people who are homeless? Many (not all) are run as a business with some staff earning the sort of salaries and perks most people can only dream of-it’s no accident.
@@TheNobbynoonar that’s true. That’s the way to earn big, start a charity - the whole family can earn. But in the main, I think it’s the lack of connections between the gov & organisations & charities & yes, a lot of the charities are just big business. But it’s all gotten so complicated now…..probably just so no one can pinpoint who is to blame. But I do have to add, there are a lot of good charities and I work for a great one. I just think there are far too many gears in the bureaucracy machine to make it move fast enough to save people. I think people have to realise that people have to do it and not leave it to “someone else”.
Local authorities also do this, Hackney council is notorious for it. So should we let them be homeless?
Mmm, follow the money trail, maybe you'll find some politicians and government officials and their families in there too...
That’s exact what I thought, lots of politicians benefit from our corrupt housing benefit system, and policies for the last 30 years to specifically prop up house prices, politicians will continue to be more and more corrupt because they just get away with it and there is no accountability
Theresa May's husband was on the Serco board of directors while she was PM. Look in to who Serco are and how much public money they get for what they "provide"
Private Eye is a good source for finding connections.
Once you are housed in one of these properties you are unable to try and get your life together by working as the rents ar wait high you can afford to lose the housing benefit.......they trap you into poverty.
Yes its so awful. We need mass reform ✊
@@HousingDan, yea we definitely need massive reform everywhere. This seems to be going on in UK, US, Canada….. more and more places. Our progressive Liberal governments are not helpful, they seem to be working with the super rich and powerful progressive people and the conservatives are just as bad for being weak. It’s a uni-party government everywhere.
There is an explosion of homeless people, drug addiction, crime, bad behaviour, and progressive activists who are just making things worse. Having huge amount of immigration and hardly any new homes being built is definitely contributing to the problem.
My only solution is that we have to raise standards, families need to take care of their own… you can’t expect others or the government to take care of your children.
I can’t believe there are so many people these days that have to be told to take a shower, change their clothes, brush your teeth….. what happened? Why are there so many people who can’t cope with life. I have a close friend who has severe depression, if they lose their apartment… this would be their next step, a rooming house.
Really!! People make money from the desperate! Who would have thought it. This is why people are sleeping on the streets.
I worked in a mental health supported accommodation and its not easy, it was the council who hounded us every quarter to move on more people.
Yes they wanted me to live in one, I think I would be so much worse if I did due to the chaos and living environments.
This is what happens the they have contracts, they control!
Friends of government ministers. Same as in Australia and America.
Hillsong church. Hillsong is in bed with mission Australia. Mission Australia has taken over the vast majority of a public asset here
@@BenJAMin-o1i just about all gov procedures are taken over by private corporation service providers Wallace. In England it was Gordon Brown who said he was so thrilled by them in the private sector......that is banking and lending and debt collecting and ‘ charity’, he decided to implement the same system across the board of the government departments. The Land Titling Investment Private companies currently operating in NSW.............English Bank partners. USA digital services provider. Institutions like Hillsong score Tax Incentives from the Government Federal in Australia. Contracts for the charitable service providing companies Hillsong ‘invest’ in. Hillsong is big friends with our former Prime Minister. The company that scores on off and onshore Refugee Detention.......English Corporation.
It's just another part of the UK justice and government systems that don't work and run by inexperienced overpaid staff with job titles that are strangely invented How many people have you met and when they say their job title you have to ask What does that mean? As bad as it was made to look it went to court many times and nothing was achieved. Great Britain is no longer.
It is designed that way loot the public purse.
My eave is loose and lets rain permeate - so much for community housing!
Corruption is in every corner of the world folks . Buyer beware
the UK is one of THE most corrupt , though, IF we only take into account nations in the 'developed' world. Which is not an unreasonable limitation to apply.
17:41 "Legally, he may have not done anything wrong"... That's the UK for you!
Its been going on for decades
So why are we not all taking a stand and putting a stop to it, exposing more of bad eggs, highlighting the really good things people do to help homelessness services. 250 clients and never taken a penny. It wouldn't feel right. I think we have an opportunity with this energy crisis and billions going into wars and not on services, hospitals and the NHS, Building New council housing. we did it after WW2, why not again?
People with anti social behaviour are put together in a house. And surprise surprise you get anti social behaviour. A lot of charities feel more like businesses than they should.
It is the system we so loved, because it sounded sooo good.
Nevermind if it actually does any good.
I became street homeless in Brighton in 2013-14 and as a single white man aged 25-49 was told by Brighton and Hove Council Housing Team "we will only help if you cannot speak english and there is nobody else who can help you." I could make my own panorama special with my story of how I was given a single train ticket from Brighton to Birmingham with the promise of help and accommodation that turned out to be so bad I went back on the streets days after arriving. Birmingham were so much more advanced with their homeless fleecing put me in a room and claim less than £100 a week. Say it's supported living and get £247 a week. Oh, and the hostels took half our benefits money too.
I hope things get better for you 🙏
Get camping n fishing mate snap out of it we're a grain of sand in history and its never been easier
The natives are to be replaced
That's bad!
@@18Ty To go camping and fishing? 😏 In feudally-owned Britain??
You'd have a lot "easier" time of it in the United States! It's certainly easier to live off the grid there...
1465 per month plus 40 quid a week service charge.
In a 74 bed hostel in Birmingham.
And there is no support.
You can complain to the council.
They won't do anything we are too important.
'The road to hell is paved with good intentions', there will always be people who take advantage of loopholes in the system, with no reguard for the outcome or the misery they cause.
Err this is what politicians do anyway. Take out money. Funnel it into businesses and profit from the rise in stocks.
Truth in Plain Sight
Investigate david milliband... the ceo of international rescue... ffs you can make it up.
Poverty is a political decision.
and poor choices by some
Poverty in the UK is the lack of the British wanting to work.
@@unknownunknown2576 yet the people who are working still can't affoard to buy houses or pay bills. Sad isnt it
I’m glad a yacht was chartered so that we can get some idea of what a yacht is 🙄
😭 I mean I think I saw on on Titanic the movie once....
it makes me so glad I qualify for a "no license" Tv license. means not only do i not have to chip in to pay for such stupid visual metaphors but if i choose to watch it i can watch it away from the BBC's viewership figures.
When care in the community is simply a cost cutting exercise, the service as a whole is going to suffer.
I would seriously look into "arms length" contracts and what exactly is their purpose.
So basically there's quite a few people who became homeless in UK and might have died in Winter due to hypothermia caused by poverty and lack of shelter availability. Sick & corrupt people with cold hearts.
Nothing changes... except, it seems; for the worse!
Government make the playground rules, its just another example of how incompetent our government and civil service has been over the last 60 years!
Ive worked in "the hostel system" with the homeless. I do not think that I have ever seen such a load of balls as this report, it is so misleading
And as usual, the poorest and most vulnerable are used and thrown away 😂 these companies make me sick. We should be helping them and not making it worse.
That’s not even slightly a surprise, I was in shared housing for over a year and you’d have drug dealers working out of the home, I personally had to keep a towel close to me when I had a bath as often the door would get booted off the hinges so they can get in while your in the bath, at the time I was agoraphobic and had severe ptsd and anxiety and the council put me in that situation, with me was a girl with twins the council don’t care it’s all about numbers
with tory governments spending OUR money, it's ALL about PRIVATE profit , NEVER about the best interests of the public.
@@noneofyourbizness our current government isn’t great no but the situations been the same a very very long time. I’m talking about 13 years ago but people like me where in those sort of situations before that. We have new homes being built for the elderly disabled( 55+ bungalows) but they exclude those who are younger and disabled which means we wait on the housing list a lot lot longer then needed in inappropriate housing conditions that mean if there was a fire we would burn alive because we can’t manage the stairs ect. They won’t put you in homes not adapted to be adapted but they don’t make homes that are adapted already for younger people. I was lucky and fought and got a elderly disabled bungalow but many aren’t so lucky and they’ll b on the list from high rise flats with stairs for a long long time. Our current offers for government we’ve had over the years I’ve no interest in voting for. Maybe depending on what they’ve actually been trying to do and there plans the greens. But atm we’re damned if we do damned if we don’t
I'm not sure this tells us anything we don't already know
Putting lots of vulnerable people in a house is a recipe for disaster. If we the taxpayers are paying for these contracts they owe it to us and the vulnerable people to ensure they get the necessary support they need. Ofcourse they can’t be supported every second of the day but a phone call or a check in with the tenants every so often could make all the difference if they are struggling. Then they could be referred to the relevant people that can best support them. Imagine this was your family that needed extra support. The fact that they take public money without helping these people is disgusting and immoral. The government are Ofcourse to blame as this practice is legal. Corruption top to bottom 😊
the "we will help next week" is unacceptable... need t9 have weekend helpers... if they reduced rent paid to by £50 they could provide support. I think the ppl involved in development of social housing shld be expected to rent out at a lower rate as part of the deal
@@1braverat1968 I agree ! The weekend would seem like forever for someone with mental health issues. Definitely instead of stealing all the money
Isn't it the same system for housing illegal immigrants....some one at the top of the chain is making a lot of money from the tax payers....
where do I go to report a story exactly like this one?
Email me - daniel@housingcoalition.co.uk
@@HousingDan I have emailed you just now.