If he's gonna be punching cars while moving then he shouldn't expect much sympathy from police. They can argue that punching a car while moving can make you lose your balance. I would never dream of punching a car while riding my ebike.
@yvonq.9346 They’re retarded mate. They’ll happily take them on hiking trails but can’t properly use the facilities provided. We not as lucky around where I live. We don’t have enough.
I drive a lbw van. I “picked up” a cyclist just after I let home today. He was riding quite swiftly, between 20 and 25mph. He seemed to be going the same way as me so I was happy to shadow him as the road was busy. I shadowed him for two miles before I deemed it safe to overtake him, safe being 6ft in my book. He was aware that I was there and probably realised I was holding back because of the length of my van. It cost me probably less than a minute in total lost time but better I lose a minute than lose him a lifetime.
@@dappa9996 Cars kill people, bicycles rarely if ever do. They are not required to follow the laws that cars are; for bicycles it is guidance, like how if a pedestrian crosses when it is safe to a cyclist can do the same Of course there are plenty of cyclists that aren't safe about it but then that only leads to trouble if both car and cyclist aren't safe about it. Put your ego to the side mate. Maybe it might be a slight inconvenience for you, which you can easily make up, for them there's far more on the line
An old authoritarian trick: when you know you have done something wrong, go on the offensive and blame others for the wrong. Bet she learned this in the police force.
Yes. Victim-blaming at its finest on display. I expect she has no road awareness anyway (from what we've already seen, also with all those decals blocking vision through the rear windows. She just has no concern at all for his safety. With that attitude, the Guinness rugby shirt, and obvious lack of driving nous, she ought to have been breathalysed. It is well known that police officers are recruited for low IQ too - just to follow orders unquestioningly. I wonder why she felt it okay to park on double yellows and then conduct a conversation in the road instead of on the pavement. Actually, the cyclist was almost as bad but edges slightly ahead on his moral high horse. Whenever there is an accident I believe the accident is meant to be reported immediately to the police for them to attend. And usually it is stipulated on the insurance policy to notify them too. So her refusing to give her details shows contempt for the law no matter what her godforsaken point was she was trying to make. It's because of these types of road users that everyone's insurance premiums go up. She wouldn't have driven like that in a driving test or she'd have failed by major faults. It's time she should have her license revoked and ordered to take a re-test.
Yep, such as in this case, upload video evidence of blocking the road and deliberately smashing a bike into someone who infringes on the divine right to block the road after they overtake. And have the effing gall to commit slander by claiming it's something else.
Nope, it's as old as Adam and Eve in the Garden of Eden. "The woman YOU put here with me-she gave me some fruit from the tree, and I ate it.” “The serpent deceived me, and I ate.”
I think judging by Cheshire Police's response, she quite clearly is an ex police officer and they're covering for her. I'd suggest taking it to another police force and demanding they investigate it independently then holding these corrupt p1gs to account
interestingly, I had a casual conversation with a local police officer recently in which I specifically asked the question of whether one person not perfectly following the law gives another person the right to run them off the road and he said it didn't. maybe the rules are different in the UK.
True. She’s guilty of assault, but also dangerous driving. Typical ex police behaviour. Typical police behaviour. Lying, protecting their own, and failing to uphold the law. The cyclist should get in touch with Iain Gould- Actions Against the Police Solicitor.
Definitely not an accident. When you intentionally try and punch a moving vehicle that takes a degree of thought and planning. The resulting loss of balance from doing so and consequently falling of the bike is purely your own making. Anyone knows that a lateral punch will transfer your centre of gravity (not recommended on a bike) Nothing about this is accidental and the injuries and damages incurred are of his own making. The police came to the right conclusion.
@@BotheredNowUKAUDITS yep she provided her details was assertive but not aggressive. He threw the punches and verbally abused her. Yep she’s the policewoman alright.
I'm extremely confident she is an Ex-Police Officer. It's precisely why no action has been taken against her. I'm sorry to say. That when a Police Officer finds themselves in the wrong. It's often the standard procedure for their colleagues to close ranks and protect them. It's an unwritten code of the profession. Officer's who risk not complying with that code. Risk being alienated from their colleagues. The IOPC is also complicit in this unwritten code. And as a body that investigates the conduct of the Police, it's a joke. As there's that's actually very little about it that's independent of the Police. Given that the majority of complaints made to the IOPC are actually investigated by the Professional Standards Departments of the actual Police Forces the complaints are made against. With only very minimal oversight by the IOPC. In other words. It was almost certainly also Cheshire Police who investigated and ruled on his IOPC complaint against Cheshire Police. He rightfully succeeded in his insurance claim. Because that's the one part of this whole affair. Over which this Ex-Police Officer and her ex-colleagues at Cheshire Police had no influence or power over. He still has an option left available. If he's willing to finance it. He could seek a private prosecution of endangerment and assault against the woman. There's extremely little her ex-colleagues could do to protect her against that. She'd be on her own. As private prosecutions are conducted and decided upon entirely by a Magistrate. I'm not a lawyer. But with the evidence he has. I think he'd stand a good chance of succeeding in a private prosecution.
Over here (netherlands) that woman would be liable for ''article 5'', which is the revoking of her drivers license on the count of endangering other road users with reckless behaviour.
@@deputyVH A bit more then a few. But hopefully things will get better. We also need classes to help folk learn up be comfortable riding on the road. I can't even go five feet on a bike and I can't be the only one
Quite I was driving Netherlands 25+ years ago with a Dutch passenger and she told me in no uncertain terms that if I hit a cyclist whatever they were doing the police would assume I was at fault until I could prove otherwise (same for pedestrians). I was taking care but not clearly enough for my Dutch passenger. I took more care. I am a lifetime cyclist too. We need the same approach here. That woman should not be driving, she clearly does not have the intelligence to drive properly! I hope he prosecutes her.
Sounds like a clear case of police corruption, there needs to be further compaints and maybe even writing the MP. This woman deserves to be charged with assault at the least for trying to harm a cyclist, and the police who collaborated with her need fired
Huh? But when did the roadrager assault the woman? All this is, is criminal damage from deliberately slamming into the car after she overtakes the roadrager and he's like "My blocking of the road failed! Revenge!!" You can't assault a car, only a person. If you deliberately slam your bike into a car and damage it, that's called criminal damage, or sometimes vandalism depending on your local jurisdiction.
@@fredpuntdroad8701 She had no room to overtake and he didnt not move, which means she drove into him, not him into her. He was following the advice given to cycle safely. I think you are probably a very dangerous man, you can look at a woman driving into a cyclist deliberately out of some kind of anger at cyclists generally then claim the opposite. You should never drive again, its too dangerous. you cannot be trusted, as you drive at people who annoy you then blame them for your poor driving.
@@dorianleakey There was an entire lane and a cycling lane, in which to fit a cycle and a car. That is THE textbook of enough room. As you saw, the roadrager was deliberately blocking the lane in order to cause nuisance and danger, so the driver overtook using half the lane and half the oncoming lane, as you should. The idiotic roadrager then deliberately damaged her car, and should've been put in the ground right then and there. Which part of 'safe cycling' is telling you to block a road and perpetrate criminal damage? Go on, show which part says "Deliberately slam into cars who have overtaken you"
@@fredpuntdroad8701 The cyclist was keeing up with traffic, with no space in front and the cycle lane was gone, you are just a liar who hates cyclists getting places quickly, so you will rewrite reality. He is not blocking the lane, he is using it, there was literally no space for your motorist to move into, but the motorist decided to force them into the side. you are just a liar, pretending to see soemthign you dont because you want to force people you see as having inferior vehicles into danger, for being in inferior vehicles. We also all see the car slam into the cyclist, you liar, you say they should tb put into the ground, you advocate murder for a cyclist not getting out of the way, you are a danger to other humans, a fan of murdering people based on a lie, where a cycle maintains the same line, not moving and you call the slamming into a car.
"Just so you know there's a bike lane there and you weren't using it, therefore I simply had to run you over and it's all your fault. I felt the uncontrollable urge to teach you a lesson you wouldn't forget as in my everyday life I have no power at all."
@@Alpacajon Trust cycling videos to bring out idiots. How could she be in "her" lane when she was straddling the lane? And who says the police are known for their understanding of traffic regulations and the highway code?
@@bobbending Absolutely, I thought she was chatting shit at first saying she was an ex copper, but as soon as Ash said they were defending her and reprimanding the cyclist, my opinion changed.
Being Dutch and both a driver and cyclist it's so sad that something that looks more like a narrow gutter is seriously considered to be a "cycle lane".
@Craig McL That Sound like it's even more dangerous than drive between the cars. Cycle lanes here are very good and maintenance is too. But even on streets without cycle lanes it's safe for cyclists as all the cars are aware that the cyclists are there and they take cyclists into account as equal road users.
Most cycle lanes in the UK are awful, especially if you cycle on a road bike at around 20mph. Never mind that as soon as you enter one cars think they can pass by a few inches from your handlebars because the white line on the road says it is ok.
The whole UK Cycling initiative was badly thought out..it will always cause Friction and stress to Drivers and Cyclists...Cycle lanes are great when they are properly separated from Roads... and in those narrow Gutters there is often Leaves ,Manholes and Drains... and other Detritis which makes them unsafe to use .
You should see the size of the parking spaces. Try getting a large car in one without a) hitting one of the cars in the spaces to the left and right, or b) going over the lines of another space, and c) having enough room to open your door a decent amount without hitting the car to the right.
@@rogueuniversities6866 That problem exists here as well. New parking lots will probably designed to the sizes of todays cars but we have a lot of older parking spaces too. My neighbourhood was built in the early seventies and parking spaces remained the same but cars got bigger and bigger.
Cheshire Police Force should be ashamed of themselves..... that is not how to deal with this case..... but a police officer doesn't blow the whistle on another,right? Ex or not don't matter..... like in this example..... what a disgrace for a police force....
Cheshire Police endorse their officers committing serious perjuries to initiate baseless criminal prosecutions. As dishonest as any / the worst criminal gang. It has the same morals as a vet shooting local pets with an air-rifle to generate trade for their surgery.. Old police habits clearly die hard for this ex-officer. The ex-officer clearly believed that she had ownership of that bit of road, and was quite happy to enforce this.
Probably is ex police, the words “you’re being difficult” is a classic police line when you don’t do what they want you to do. They are protecting their own, that’s why it went no further
Oh, it needs to go further. The driver needs to go down. The officers responding need to go down. Both traffic sergeants need to go down. They need to understand that if they "protect their own", they go down as well.
totally agree that's thing's a freak ! loll at that crap on the back of shitbox motor 😬 says it all 🤣 he was knocked straight off that freak was full of anger, it's an absolute travesty.!?! no wonder there's so much hatred & anarchy ....
Police protecting their own as per usual. She basically admits that she tried to force him off the road because he wasn't using the bike lane (which had ended by the point the collision happened).
The blue wall is a real problem, police officers should be held to the same standards as other people, if not more since they are public servants and should be setting an example.
There is no legal obligation to use a bike lane, they are often unfit for use and certainly if your matching the speed of traffic " owning the lane" is the correct thing to do !
If I collided with a cyclist, knocking him to the ground, I'm pretty sure my first reaction would be ' Is the cyclist OK ?', not 'I must immediately accuse the cyclist of being at fault, irrespective of how badly he might be injured'. But then I'm not a sociopath.
It all started with the driver seing the cyclist not in cycle lane he probably didn't know at this point the cycle lane ends. So he thinks he not in cycle lane n taking the piss
Then again, you've probably never had a dumb roadrager block you in, and then deliberately smash into your left side after overtaking them. Pretty sure if somene 100% deliberately caused you criminal damage, your first response would be 'This dumb criminal is at fautl' instead of 'Is the criminal okay?'.
If I where a cyclist there's no way I would ride in the gutter, alot of motorists don't notice how deep the sinks can be in the roads and how bad the sides of the roads in the UK actually are.. But saying that alot of cyclists don't help thselves and make all cyclists look bad
At the end of the day they have the same rights and guidance as cars and your driving lessons teach you to be careful around cyclists and to give them space, I always give them 1m minimal distance, if I can not get that distance I stay behind them.. This probably comes from my motorcycle days.
As soon as she refused to give me insurance details would be the second I was on the phone to the police as refusing to give insurance details IS a crime under Section 170 of the Road Traffic Act.
The road traffic acts aren't laws. Acts and statutes are only given the force of law with your consent. Remember, covid, when you said you was exempt from wearing masks, and they couldn't question you... this is the same principle😂
Unfortunately you are half right. It says where injury has occurred, an insurance certificate or proof of Insurance or exemption must be produced, IF NOT the accident must be reported to the Police Within 24 hours. This safeguards the driver/s of giving the other half of the Road Traffic Collision, their details and you may feel scared or intimidated in doing so.
I have heard that before and it beggars belief - "I was nowhere near you" and also "you punched my car". If you are obeying the rules of the road there is no way a cyclist can touch your car... unless the bike is being ridden by Inspector Gadget!
Whilst I don't agree with punching someone's car to make the point, I can't argue with the fact that if a cyclist *can* punch your car, you're too damn close in the first place!
@@musography6958 ofc, he should have just moved left into the gutter, gotten stuck on something and fallen over, preferable under the vehicle that pushed him off to the side. Do you also tell victims of assault that they shouldnt have fought back?
Quite right! I mean, what kind of person looks at society and sees only violence and horror and rather fall into a pit of dispair goes "I know what can solve this- ME!"
Not sure these people are trying to 'solve' anything, what happens is they drive down the road and the slightest annoyance can cause them what is known as a 'Narcissistic injury' the annoyance threatens their control and they see RED! What simply went on with this clips Narcissist is the cyclist threatened the control of the motorist just by being there, Something as simple as overtaking a Narcissist or complaining about their poor, self-entitled driving can cause RAGE!!!!!! As you say it's all about me, me, me, me, me! We do though see Narcissism everywhere, politics, clergy, police, celebrities, sports stars etc etc etc, from the very bottom of society all the way to the very top.
@@ronpalmer1371 you know what you typed here could be used against you if you were to collide with a cyclist as it shows intent to do harm. I would think carefully when you type this sort of silly comment. Besides the cyclist was in the correct position for the junction and the woman should have waited patiently behind him to pass on the opposite side. To make matters worse, if you look at the position she initially accosts the cyclist when she pulled up she forces the confrontation within the junction itself, another sign that she hit him intentionally.
@@ronpalmer1371 I'm not sure what the rules are in the UK, but I'm betting they're similar to the rules in Germany. Which are, that inside cities the distance between you and a cyclist needs to be at least 1.5m and 2m outside the city when passing. there was nowhere near enough room for that on this particular street. even if the cyclist didn't ride in the middle of the street.
After a careful and thorough investigation by the Merseyside Police, the Merseyside Police has found the Merseyside Police innocent of any wrong-doing.
I just put out a crimebodge recommendation. Seen the latest this morning? Maybe our cyclist should say he identifies as gender number 67 on the massive list, and that cat driver was being transphobic. They’d be straight on her
@@mentaldavethefirst agreed. Having a go at trans people is not on. Crimebodge does do good work to bring justice against morally corrupt police officers which is why I suggested it. I did just watch the video that highdownMartin was talking about and although it comes across as crude and unsympathetic to the discrimination against the trans community it is ultimately a dig at the polices bias as they push a political agenda when they should stick to their guns and give everyone fair treatment, regardless of background.
She's an absolutely horrendous person. The cyclist did nothing wrong. She ran him off on purpose. And she completely incriminated herself, but police don't care.
go to specsavers............ Cyclist veered right slightly to punch the car and it was then that he was knocked off. . The cyclist could have moved nearer to pavement once cycle lane ended. The cyclist sped up to race past the car instead of slowing down or move over and not be dumb by risking what could have been a much more horrible chain reaction of accident by other motorists coming up the road. . Now that we pointed out the cyclists faults and options, lets start with one main thing not mentioned... HOW could the car driver have recorded cyclist on impact unless she had phone in hand whilst driving ??? but in reality all she had if there was dashcam would have been the cyclist using the road he was allowed to in front of her and the cam would show her veering over towards the pavement before getting by and being clear of the cyclist. . BOTH did wrong
Car driver 100% in the wrong, didn't even ask the bloke if he was ok after being run off the road, unbelievable! This is the old story of coppers sticking together which is a real problem in the police force, its actions like this when the police dont uphold the law and have a biased towards their colleagues that lead to problems. Sometimes huge problems, it was a sticking together mentality that let that Wayne Couzens remain an officer when he should of been dismissed a long time ago.
'Being difficult 'and' Give me your details and I will not Provide mine,'are the Phrases that identifies her as Police, or ex police, the sense of entitlement is off the scale.
When she says “you were being difficult” to me that is her admitting she decided to “teach the cyclist a lesson”. Essentially assaulting the cyclist with a weapon (her vehicle). She shouldn’t be allowed on the roads. Also, any “police officer” would know swapping details after an accident is a legal requirement.
Sorry, but you can't have it both ways. As you said the car driver decided to teach the cyclist a lesson by using her car. She can't then claim damages when she caused the damage by hitting the cyclist with her car. If I were the cyclist I would have given her a mouth full, and carried on my way. There's no accident here, she did it deliberately; so why swap insurance, not that the cyclist would have any.
She's not a cop. Probably hasn't been one for years ,if at all, I'll just add I was run off the road in my VAN ,by an hgv driver a few years ago. Said he didnt see me in a Merc sprinter !!!!Good job I don't think all hgv drivers are the same. Just saying.
As a former traffic police officer in my opinion the alleged ex police officer is at fault for trying to cut into the cyclists traffic lane from the right when there was no space for her vehicle to do so. There wasn't any cycle lane as it had ended prior to her poor attempt. For me it's Section 3 careless/inconsiderate driving against her and the footage clearly shows the collision to be her fault. The investigating officer is wrong imo.
Karens and muppets everywhere my wife would say. Ex policemen are the worst for calling their old mates on the force and getting it smoothed out under the table so-to-speak. There is a very powerful unwritten rule within the force where they will go to great lengths to defend their associates, even at the risk of being seen as wrong, or showing bias. This type of behaviour has to stop, in the real world when you make a mistake, regardless of who you are, or have been, we should all be prepared to admit that mistake and make amends.
The female driver pushed the cyclist off the road on purpose! She had the cyclist in front of her car. Then she moved parallel next to him on the road and pushed him to the side! 100% intentional. She knew exactly what she was doing with her car during this whole incident.
She also timed her assault to take advantage of the ever so slight increase in road width at the intersection; but failed miserably trying to execute the manoeuvre.
she probably was an ex-cop. Because when the gent was putting his side to the story she accused him of being disruptive that is a well-known tactic from the police.
Whilst the manoeuvre itself was awful I have to admit I'm even more horrified by the complaints procedure afterwards. That's assault and on the face of it this looks like cronyism at its worst with the police complaints procedure as crooked as a banana republic. Why if the cyclist was in the wrong did the insurance company settle. Serious questions have to be asked and police officers held to account here.
Unfortunately thats typical of the police. They love to protect their own. There are police who get off with written or verbal warnings for much more than this, and so I am genuinely not suprised by the result. If I was the cyclist, and I had the funds or could be bothered, I'd bring a private prosecution against that woman, which, in this case, I am sure with a decent lawyer or even a barrister, he would win easily.
@@brad7943 You constantly hear "you will always get one bad apple in the barrel" Aye perhaps, but that doesn't wash when every other apple covers up for it.
Two traffic sergeants giving their opinion without an appeal route doesn’t seem that impartial to me. A formal review by another Police force or an independent Police body would be a way forward.
Insurance settles all the time. If one side is a bellend company and flat out refuses to pay despite the video proving it was criminal damage and the bellend roadrager deliberately slammed his bike into the car, there's not much your own insurance can do other than go to court, which costs a lot. So whenever court costs would outstrip the unfairness of the settlement, they settle. And a roadrager scratching one panel on a car like that, isn't very expensive. The problem is the police refusing to charge the cyclist with criminal damage, despite it clearly being an intentional crash because he felt his divine right to block the road had been infringed by the driver. Also for the cyclist. The next victim he decides to slam into may not be as levelheaded and decide to make some highspeed introductions between the bellend cyclist's head and the pavement to see if that can beat some common sense into him. It's that sort of entitled criminal behaviour how people really get hurt on the road, so the cyclist should be charged to unlearn this behaviour.
I just remembered, she tried to establish her superiority be stating she'd been driving 35 years - When the cyclist said he'd been driving longer she immediately went to _"It's not a competition"_ ...
The police response tells me she was a copper, they always close ranks even in retirement. The police IMO need a MASSIVE reform they are at this moment in mentality and reality just the biggest gang.
There's not a week that goes by that another police officer is in the papers for rape, murder, animal abuse or some other horrific crime. Tells us everything we need to know and makes you wonder what else they are getting away with and they are covering up. Probably just the tip of the iceberg. I have a horrible feeling it's going to get worse before it gets better.
It's shocking that this is the UK and the police here are so overtly corrupt in thousands of cases. I'm glad more people are becoming aware of their nonsense. Hopefully there is a change soon, starting from their internal complaints appeals board. They need monitoring by an impartial body who are not able to be bribed or threatened
@@Noi5ee shocking in the sense that we are supposed to be an advanced and fairly docile country in the first world where we are generally well educated. The corruption is overt to the level that many officers are now aware they are being recorded and still continue to act unlawfully. Almost as if they know the system is behind their corruption and they don't care if they get seen doing it any more
She should be banned from driving. That was disgusting. A few years ago a friend of mine got clipped by a car that sped off and left him laying on the pavement. Despite several witnesses including one who got the car reg, no action was taken against the driver. Turned out in the end that he was an off duty Police officer.
Its crazy because i witnessed something similar happen, its dangerous for cyclists to be on the road, hence why i do belive they shouldn't, for there safety.
She needs taking off the road before she kills someone. Wasn't aware the cycle lane had ended and doesn't seem to think that if a cyclist can punch your car it means you are too close. The response from the police is shocking but I can't say I am surprised.
The root issue here is the car driver’s sense of superiority over the cyclist. The police comment that the cyclist should stay out of the way is just plain wrong. Fortunately the highway code has updated to address the fallacy that there is a hierarchy of road users. The car driver was absolutely in the wrong because she failed to show proper consideration for a more vulnerable road user. The lack of action by the police in this case is a serious failure. We all have a duty to protect each other on the roads.
why was she trying to get around him anyway when he was keeping up with the flow of traffic. She also have a massive case of "must overtake syndrome". If he was a motorbike going at the exact same speed she would never have bothered. Some people are crazy, they think them getting to their destination 10 seconds sooner is more important than someone else's health and wellbeing. I hope this video changes the police stance as it will reach lots of people and make them look very bad and very crooked protecting their own
The urgency to overtake has actually cost her more time having to pull over and try and justify her actions. Hopefully her premiums have now gone up significantly for the next 5 years.
It's also funny because at this traffic speed he would have quickly overtaken her. I ride a motorbike and it even happens with me that I overtake a cyclist and lo and behold 5-15 seconds later I'm overtaken either because of a red light of slow traffic that I can't pass.
Not true I have this happen on a motorcycle and seen it happen to another motorcyclist cars are fucking crazy. Car drivers just see anything less than a car shouldn't be in their way.
The cyclist really needs to take this much further. Get the press involved and make a complaint about the police officers involved. The actions of the insurance company should work well in his favour. I agree that this was, most likely, a deliberate act of assault. There is no way that she has 'nothing to answer for'. Personally, I feel that woman should both face jail time for her actions, and permanently lose her license. I also feel that the officers involved should be criminalised since this is, obviously, corruption.
She was making her point with her im mightier than thou attitude, the insurance company eventually acted in the cyclists favor, on their investigation their legal team had assessed the video, insurance companies dont pay out easily, so what makes her's and the police version so different to the cyclist's? I wonder if she will declare the accident on her next renewal, with her attitude probably not, meaning she submits a fraudulent renewal to her insurance company?
I would take atch take this further to my local MP. And also involve Kit Williamson (Minister for Police), Priti Patel (Home Office), and some of the national policing bodies
@@louisbryant2302 She could have killed or seriously injured the cyclist by driving dangerously. Unless the fine is £10,000+ , a fine isn't fitting for this type of crime.
Speechless! I am a lifelong competitive cyclist, on flat roads my average speed exceeds 20mph, I am sick and tired of being told to get on the effing cycle lane or path. The way forward has to be education, as most car drivers have a warped view of what the rules are. That’s why I have started following your channel, someone with common sense and a fair analysis from both points of view. I believe there are deeper psychological issues going on here with car drivers, a lot of these people wouldn’t be so aggressive if you were standing next to them in a supermarket queue. She knew he was there and bullied him, the consequence was clear for all to see, the police connection does have me wondering. What motorist forget is that 99.99% of cyclists are also motorists. The non cyclist motorists feel superior and cocooned in their 1 ton plus of metal and their journey is far more important than yours! I have never known it so bad in my 40 plus years of cycling.
@@illegalopinions4082why exactly should they use a cycle lane? A lot of cycle lanes are not fit for purpose and there are lots of reasons to not want to use a cycle lane and often cycle lanes that are perhaps appropriate for leisurely cycling are not appropriate for a road cycle due to bumps, cracks, debris, obstacles, dropped kerbs or simply the end of the cycle lane coming up anyway. Also a cyclist may be turning right. Do you know how hard it can be to get across one or two lanes of traffic if you’re all the way over in cycle lane? The roads are to be shared and not just for cars.
@@illegalopinions4082 Tarmac roads were originally and specifically made for cycling, as the prior types of surfacing were not safe for cycle wheels. Many "cycle lanes" are just glass-ridden hole-pocked drain-filled gutters that often disappear at potential conflict points, so where's the safety in that?
@@rednammoc Dismount and use the pavement to walk or cross if you aren't confident in your road craft? Solutions are available, yet cyclists willingly choose to not use them.
Late reply but as a hgv driver and car driver I have always disliked some cyclists attitude, that is, until recently I decided I would cycle to work, what an eye opener, I’m way more patient and allow more than the minimum safe distance, however I also try to make it easier for traffic to get around me. An example would be when there’s no way they could get around me safely rather than forcing them to sit behind me at 15mph ish, I will nip onto the path to allow traffic to safely pass then move back to the road, unless of course there are pedestrians. SOME cyclists cause themselves issues, MOST car drivers cause everyone issues and the occasional HGV driver should not be driving a HGV. Nobody is infallible however we should all work together to ensure every road user gets to their destination safely.
What a vile human being. What is the point of the overtake anyway? He's keeping up with the car in front. I'd never overtake someone who is keeping up with traffic, whatever they are driving. 100% this is a violent attack. How the police can expect the general public to respect them when so many are so obviously corrupt!
Yeah i dont get it as well. Why won't the police prosecute this woman when they have all the evidence they need being handed to them? There are many incidents like this with perfect evidence being available but nothing seems to happen.
@@ewanrollo5527 It's called corruption. The police are known to protect their own. Same happened when there was a malicious prosecution against me, the inspector lied through his teeth.
Both are actions taken from a position of power, and this is why sociopaths have such a greed for power, and try getting to such a position at any price. To a sociopath, power is the road to always getting what they want. You bet 100% that this "accident" was done on purpose. Whenever a sociopath feels that they can hurt another person, whether it is emotionally or physically, regardless of whether the other person ever did anything to them, their secret anger issues come out, and the only reason she needed to deliberately strike the cyclist is the fact that she can. This rage was only aggravated by her sense of entitlement to think that she would have a right to claim the cyclist's place on the broad lane. But I have seen enough examples of rage where there wasn't even have a hint of provocation. It happens all too often, and too often it is sold off as "normal" when in fact, it isn't. Sociopathy is a *disorder*, and nobody should need be governed, commanded, or otherwise harassed by a disordered individual.
My friend got pushed (deliberately) over on his bike by a person starting to cross a road as he cycled through a green light. Turns out the person mistook the lights for being red and decided to take violent revenge. When their mistake was pointed out, they sort of apologised and hurried off. While my friend let it go initially as he wasn't particularly hurt and his bike was ok, but after he checked his backpack, he realised his laptop had been damaged and so decided to report it at a nearby police station. The officer at the desk told him it was an assault and that they would be taking action. But then he saw the guy who had pushed him over in uniform in a room behind the desk. He informed the officer at the desk and he left to speak to the man my friend had just identified. A few minutes later he returned and told my friend that he'd made a mistake, and that this didn't class as an assault, but rather a traffic offence. I'm sure that woman is a former police officer as the actions from the police in the face of clear evidence don't make sense. …unless they are protecting someone. It happens. Where's AC-12 when you need them?
It’s incredible really how some are above the law, you’d think in this country they wouldn’t be so privileged but still, Joe Public loses out when wronged by a representative of the state.
Car drivers should be aware that cyclists may need space to avoid potholes, grids, glass etc. Whether there is a cycle lane or not she would not have been any quicker to her destination by biding her time for a few seconds. No remorse or concern for an obviously injured guy , awful.
I think she was already pissed off that he wasn't using the cycle lane, she got irrational and eventually bumped him. Cars are heavy things and killing machines. All us drivers need to keep the rage under check.
I think the cyclist should invest in some elbow an knee pads if hes gonna ride round being a pain in the arse like he was because hes gonna get knocked off regularly
She had nowhere to go, and there wasn’t room for her to execute the overtake whilst leaving the required 1.5m. The cyclists position on the road was perfect, and he was keeping pace with the traffic flow. This is 100% the drivers fault, and I’m at a loss as to how the Police can state otherwise. I’m going to forward this to British Cycling and to the CTC, this woman is a menace, and a danger to other road users.
So if motorists have to give 6 foot to cyclists, why do cyclists sqeeze through tiny gaps between vehicles? Seems the lycra brigade pick and choose when these rules apply! I've had my mirror hit twice by cyclists and also got multiple scratches because cyclists think they can squeeze past me. All cyclists should have identifying numbers and insurance if they are using the road.
@@wittywarlord3869 two wrongs don’t make a right, do they? Cyclists shouldn’t squeeze through non existent gaps and damage vehicles, cars should give good room and realise there’s only one loser in a collision.
@@huwprice881 Some car drivers deliberately stop close to the kerb leaving no gap deliberately. I suspect he is one of those that hate on cyclists and motor cycles filtering through traffic. I have never had a scratch from a cyclist.
@@sgxbot In my country, the car would have been at fault unless proven otherwise. Even if proven otherwise the car will most likely still share liability. Simply because you drive in a metal case and you should drive a lot more defensively. I am going to assume, people like her are the reason we have this law.
The traffic was indeed moving at the same speed of the cyclist. There was no real advantage in getting past him. This has also happened to me several times with drivers getting past me dangerously just to stop a couple of meters later at a traffic light. In these situations I just back off as I couldn't bother confronting such idiotic people and I could really get hurt if they got angry, as these kind of people often have anger management issues, and might try to hit me on purpose.
It's similar to learner cars, some drivers see them and make it a mission no matter what to get past quickly. Often leads to accidents. No thinking ahead of whether they even need to.
@@CulturedThugPoster There's no legal requirement to use it. Certainly you can't ram someone for not using it. What's the worst offence there in your opinion? Also as stated in the video the lane has finished before the incident
@@CulturedThugPoster did you see where it said "END" showing the cycle lane was no more, before she tried to barge ahead and ram him out the way? There was no cycle lane at the point she hit him, so that entire lane belonged to the cyclist. There's literally zero way to misinterpret that.
@@CulturedThugPoster no cycle lane, hes preventing her overtaking and being dangerous as stated in the highway code. He has exactly the same rights as the car, he is in front, and has clear right of way. She has no right what so ever to demand he gets out her way, its her responsibility to safely overtake. Its illegal in the highway code to overtake so closely the cyclist can touch the car, you are supposed to give the same space as a car.
Could you please give an update on this Ashley? It is deeply disturbing that at the time you made the video there hasn't been any criminal prosecution, just an insurance payout.
I find it interesting that she says "There was a bike lane there that you weren't using" as if that's some kind of justification for knocking him off the bike. Whether there WAS a bike lane or not, and whether he SHOULD have used it or not, are irrelevant. Still doesn't excuse her.
@@michaelslinger6903 I think the point is IF there had (there wasn't, but for the sake of argument, if there was) a cycle lane at the time, and IF it was mandatory for a cyclist to use them... Does that justify the what the lady did? Not in the slightest. In otherwords, it's irrelevant to the case.
sadly most people do this at cyclists, park up on curb's at traffic to prevent filtering. Swerving at them on overtakes to force them to stop. And some will flat out slip you and drive off. Then when you go online, you usually see people say "ugh cyclists cause all these issues." Its not by chance that the ONE time everyone supports the cyclist, its because the offending car was a former pig. I mean a former copper. Shows that even on the social pryamid, the cops are still the lowest form of scum.
Those narrow cycle lanes in the gutter are a danger. They encourage cars to pass way to close to cyclists and lead to road rage, like this, when the cyclist take primary position. And for the record, I'm not a cyclist. It's just that I'm now at an age were I see a lot of stupid.
If this happened to me as a cyclist I would be riding on the pavement from then on. And should I ever get pulled over by the police I will show them this footage and say this is precisely why I don't ride on the road.
@@j2simpso So because some random cyclist had a nasty encounter on the road you’re gonna use that as an excuse to put pedestrians at risk on the pavement?
@@lenka2042 Why have you put words into the mouth of J2simpso. He said if this happened to him he would fear using the road and would use pavements. That's clearly not the same as he WILL only ride on pavements from now on.
This makes me sad. He did nothing wrong, if anything he could have taken the lane a bit more assertively but I’m not going to second guess such an experienced commuter cyclist.
Cyclists get on my tits so many of them are deliberately obstructive and ignorant but regardless you protect the vulnerable road users all the time ego should never come into 70% of road user's dont have the maturity to drive.
@@mackie1001 "He did nothing wrong". Erm.... he deliberately accelerates like mad to stay level with her and prevent the overtake. Listen to the audio. He's clicking up through the gears as fast as he physically can. He knows exactly what he's doing. They're *both* muppets.
The cycle lane is nowhere near wide enough anyway. If it isn't a wide lane, segregated by hardware (bollards, kerbs etc.) it isn't a cycle lane, if it doesn't offer protection, it is just conscience washing for the local council. That, even though he wasn't in a cycle lane when the collision occurred.
In Amsterdam assault on the driver would be justified. The status quo in the UK is very sad. Putting cyclists in hospital by assault with a deadly weapon and getting away with it.
Cyclist are deadly hear in the UK and now we even have cycle lanes for them with bollards up and they still cycle in front of cars most (not all) cyclist are idiots without much understanding of the roads lights etc Cyclist = women drivers again most not all
@@derkylos lmao not all the UK is London sorry pal I'm Scottish and these are in Edinburgh 🤣🤣 love how when the UK is mentioned everyone immediately thinks London 🤦
That lady needs her license taken away! No remorse, no asking if he was all right, just straight into a barrage of abuse and false accusations. This is a common pattern of behaviour for those who know they are in the wrong. I’m recently out of hospital myself after being knocked off my own bicycle in a similar situation. I can only hope the cyclist here recovers safely.
The Motorist in my opinion was disgusting by not even asking how the cyclist was after knocking him off his bike , I drive a HGV and always give cyclists plenty of room and never get upset when I can’t overtake them until it is safe to do so
Thank you David. In my area the HGV drivers often give me good amount of space and are patient where required. In return if it is safe for me to pull out of their way so they can continue on I will do. It doesn't cost more than 15/20 seconds and we're all winners.
I get a bit upset when they are riding on the fog line (that would be the stripe at the (in the UK) left of the road if it isn't a term used in the UK) at a much lower speed than traffic, when there is plenty of space outside the lane for them to ride safely, because that's a bit inconsiderate. but I won't crowd a cyclist. that would be failing to drive with due care.
@@bigted1347 wait. they're not a tree growing in the road? my horticulture class lied to me? yes, they are traffic. they are traffic which is traveling significantly lower than the average speed in such a manner that makes it difficult if not impossible to overtake safely and legally, when they could safely allow traffic to overtake. this makes me a bit upset, just like it makes me upset when a person in a car dawdles along in such a manner that traffic that has someplace to be cannot overtake and get along about their business. is this a concept that is particularly hard to understand?
@@kenbrown2808No. You come across as selfish and self entitled because a bike is legally on the road and your journey might take an extra minute. You have explained your entitlement very well. Kudos
The car driver could have easily got around him. And after the incident she wasn't concerned that she'd knocked someone over. She was prepared to walk through a traffic junction to complain. Says it all about who she is.
She also does something I hate - "I've been driving for X years!" As though that makes them good. So you're saying the last time you had any training or took any sort of exam was three decades ago, when traffic was a lot less, standards were a lot lower and the Highway Code was a dozen versions old...
It's such a weak argument to propose and stinks of entitlement. If anything it shows that their misconceptions of the highway code have been implemented for 30+ years. There are drivers who have been driving for only a year that will know better than her. I'm glad the cyclist had a quick response to it
Please don't tar us with the same brush, Adam. I've been driving 45 years. Even though I'm saying it myself, I am a superb driver. Experience is a fantastic thing. I can see things developing before my passengers can. I have avoided so many accidents by anticipation and observation. I can pick up on 'body language' and second-guess. I have undergone the RoSPA course, been trained by Thames Valley Police's top traffic cop, and undergone skidpan testing - all many years ago, but I still practice all I was taught. I've only had one 'my fault' accident, and that was 20 years ago (and even that involved a speeding driver, but I was classed by the insurer as at fault). I drive a van during the day, and a car at weekends. Thanks.
@@barryfoster453 Hey Barry. Sorry if it seemed like that was an age thing, it wasn't meant against any particular group. It just bugs the crap out of me when people think doing something for long is the same as doing it well. Sounds like you did the smart thing and took further training over time, so your standards will be much higher than most. I'm on about those like a certain person I know who has been 'riding for over a decade', by getting their CBT every 2 years on the back of a 125...
30 years plus driving, ROSPA advanced trained, GTI driver here, who has just bought himself a Specialized hybrid and who hasn't cycled for 16 years. Your content looks pretty good, so just subbed 👍
Totally the ‘ex police officer’s’ fault, never overtake a cyclist in slow moving traffic such as this. If you know they’re there give them plenty of room regardless of where the driver think they’re going. I’ve learnt a lot from the likes of cycling channels such as CyclingMikey and motorbike channels like RoyalJordanian to understand the vulnerable cyclists are.
While I agree about the vulnerability of cyclists ; I am not a fan of CyclingMikey and his militant and often obstructive tactics , which he has been warned about by the police before . I also do not find his activities ethical , since he goes on crusades looking for people to ‘snitch’ on ; he might have done well in 1930s Germany, but in the USA or South Africa , someone would just have shot him by now , so why does he think it acceptable here . I am not condoning phone use or off siding around bollards , neither of which I ever do myself ; but he is not a police officer and it is simply not his place to do these things . One day he will cross the wrong person and end up dead or crippled .
@@derekheeps1244 You seem a bit entitled and butthurt. The law is the law, being a police person or not doesn't matter. People are prosecuted for breaking the law. No one makes them do it, they just feel entitled to do it.
it's because they are Lazy ..... Now if the Cyclist had been one of our Diverse friends ...the car driver would have been sent to prison for the rest of her life
@@TrequartistaFM just thought i would jump on the Bandwagon.... seeing as all the woke leftie numpties bring race into everything.... just thought i would give it a go.... am i not allowed the same right as the other idiots? .. please enlighten me
The police in this country are a joke. This should be an open and shut case of dangerous driving. They have video of the event, of the person and her car number plate. This is a slam dunk for them, an easy conviction for their targets and removing someone from the roads who is genuinely a danger to other road users ... but no. Instead they turn a blind eye.
This is a valuable lesson. If you ever get knocked off your bike on purpose by an agressive driver don't stand around arguing. As soon as they come yelling at you about cycle lanes say nothing and just start hitting them mercilessly until they're unconscious on the ground then steal their car and if anything happens just say you had a cousin who was once roommates with a police officer and you'll get off free.
@@KILLER.KNIGHT you cant use your car as a force to push someone out of the way mate its traffic you arent going anywhere any faster why are you protecting someone being aggressive for no reason
@@KILLER.KNIGHT Really, since when, my copy of the Highway Code doesn't even say I should never mind must. Most painted cycle lanes are literally worse than nothing in terms of cycle safety.
Classic example here of a cycle lane that does more harm than good. The cyclist rightly recognises that the lane is too narrow and puts them way too close to the cars in heavy traffic. As a cyclist myself the only thing i might do differently here is take up and even more primary position - any less than fully in the middle of a lane of traffic and some drivers think they can bully their way past you. Incredibly dangerous and the cyclist is in no way at fault, but in the UK we are dealing with generations of drivers who have no conception of how to share the road.
I'm a driver and I have known for well over 40 years that a cyclist, as a road user, has the right to use the entire carriageway. All of it. It's in the Highway Code and was taught to schoolchildren as young as 6 as part of Cycling Proficiency (is that even a thing nowadays?). There has never been an obligation to cringe into the gutter to allow cars to overtake, because of the possibility of having to avoid raised ironworks / drains / detritus. That being said, if their speed is impeding the flow of traffic, they should move to the left of the carriageway to allow overtaking (and that overtaking is only to be done by the driver when safe and not requiring encroachment back into the carriageway, crowding the cyclist into the kerb). Also in the Highway Code. Note "should move". Not "must move". Because their use of the road in a safe manner for themselves and others, avoiding hazards and obstacles, etc., outweighs the desire of someone behind who wants to travel faster. Just like any other road user. Mrs ex-Copper has no excuse for not knowing what was in the code (and still is) when she passed her test.
Typical of most cyclists, should have been in the cycle lane, instead rides in the middle of the car lane just to try and be clever and hold cars up and then punches the car for overtaking. Totally deserved it , more should be knocked over.
Safety first. Always safety first. Even if a cyclist were to be in the wrong position, never drive in a manner that could endanger them. It's scary that how this woman behaved. She shouldn't be allowed behind the wheel.
You know that goes both ways, right? If this 'cyclist' rode daily in a major American city he would be dead within a year. "The bike lane has nothing to do with it" The only way to ride a bike in traffic, and survive, is to assume that every car is actively trying to kill you.
@@Johnny-rj9on wtf are you on.. Laying blame on the poor guy on his bike.. If that was a police officer in the bike would that woman run him off his bike... Nope
The way Cheshire police and iopc handled this case was appalling and makes me think that the old bint was X copper and just goes to show how the police can be corrupt when protecting their own.
She was a police officer tells you a lot. What about the Highway Code 1.5m safe space when overtaking a cyclist. Maybe this doesn’t apply to police officers.
This is what really makes my blood boil. The woman clearly used her 2 tonne car as a weapon and should be charged as such. If she is ex-police she likely worked for Cheshire police and they’re clearly protecting their own. There must be another (national) body which Cheshire police is accountable too. And if I were the cyclist I would likely take it up with my local MP.
One tonnes or two tonnes, it makes no difference to the cyclist she’s just assaulted with her car. Also it was Cheshire police dealing with the incident and were so quick to defend her. Although she may have been part of any police force in that region.
Her language and manor indicate she was an ex copper and showed zero compassion to the rider who had invisible injuries. I sure hope the cyclist takes it further with a private prosecution and a real judge will decide in favour of the cyclist. Finally guys, please invest in cameras, this shows you why it’s worth it. Great review as always
Thanks Ashley for the way that you have presented this video. Regarding the collision, whilst the cyclist could have arguably taken action that might have avoided the collision it doesn't change the fact that car driver knocked the cyclist off his bike. The highway code now lays out a clear duty of care that different road users have owe each other. By taking a primary position on the road, as you say, the cyclist was doing nothing wrong. I'm a cyclist too, and I often feel intimidated by close passes, cyclists have an aversion to them and this case illustrates clearly how close passes can turn into collisions. It hardly delays motor vehicle drivers to wait for a gap before overtaking - that's on a clear road - but this happened in slow moving traffic (thankfully), so the motorist wouldn't have been delayed. I too can't understand why no action was taken by the Police, the cyclist not just had the incident on camera, but presumably had witnesses too.
@@oddjobtriumph1635 bit of a dim responce come on up hold your own integrity because she worked for the police and she likly had nothing to do with traffic as she knows very little.
Good to see this doing the rounds again one year on. I think it’s shocking that the Highway Code has had to be amended in order that life threatening drivers AND the police can be made aware of what is clearly dangerous driving. This should have gone in front of a judge.
Thank you, Ashley. I agree with your analysis of the situation. I am a solicitor in Scotland. English and Scottish law differs in many ways, but much less so in regards to the application of the Road Traffic Act 1988. There is also the possibility of an assault at common law. Had the driver of the Fiesta sought my advice then I would recommend a plea of guilty. The Procurator Fiscal in Scotland would most likely prosecute this as a contravention of section 2 of the Road Traffic Act 1988. The penalties applying are disqualification from driving, and an order to resit the whole test of competence to drive. Imprisonment is also a penalty, but I’d be confident that our “former Police Officer” is otherwise of good character?
Clearly she drove him off the road on purpose. She knew exactly what she was doing and is why it was the first thing she said. She knows that really she shouldn't have done it but tries desperately to justify her stupidity by saying that she did it because he wasn't using the bike lane. Only another corrupt cop would come up with any excuse for this vile incident that she caused. Should have her licence removed for at least 10 years. The police's response and subsequent lack of accountability is another clear example of why you can never trust anything the police say or do.
She was at fault! The cycling lane clearly ended and she continued trying to take over the lane even when the cyclist was not in the wrong. I got knocked off my bike over twenty years ago and was left by the driver and had to drag myself and my bike over a mile to work. I had a shoulder injury, muscle damage, and as I didn't know then a disk problem. The police were informed but nothing was done. I have had to stop work and walk on sticks due to a back injury. My job was as a teacher/lecturer which I loved doing every day! Its hard somedays to get out of bed and I am now on high doses of morphine and various other medicines I have to take now for the pain. The driver is probably died now!
Also as he said there's no loegal requirement to use painted bucycle gutters anyway. Which is a good thing because they aren't safe and prone to just suddenly disapear without warning anyway.
Sorry to hear that. Sounds like hell. I used to love cycling but I've been put off by some of the terrible driving I've seen. I reported a close pass with video evidence a couple of years ago but the police must be busy because they haven't got back to me yet.
She wasn't interested in saving time. She wanted to teach the cyclist a lesson for not having used the miniscule "cycle lane" which had already ended by the time she deliberately collided with him and knocked him off his bike. She must have seen him crash to the ground as she shoved past him, was she at all concerned he was hurt once he'd picked himself up and was wheeling his bike across the junction to where he eventually pulled up? No, she wasn't - she approached him , hackles up and going straight onto the offensive, delivering her rant on how he'd brought it on himself. Cheshire Police should be investigated for the absolutely appalling way in which they approached the incident in the first place and for their complete failure to adequately review the case. I'd love to hear what's happened regarding this, after the video was made.
Sorry, this is from South Africa, but as soon as I saw the "Fish" on the back of her car, it was obvious that this "christian" had God on her side as she would never do anything wrong. Please forgive my sarcasm.
@@ThePhoenix109 When the police completely ignore a genuine complaint when it’s against a former police office, what else is it? Let’s give the benefit of the doubt here and say they didn’t know she was a police officer. Then it’s laziness or incompetence at best.
Factor in HIS speed and HER speed. It is very clear he was keeping up with the flow of traffic speed. Cycle lane or not. This means SHE will gain NO ground of distance by overtaking. She has not been inconvenienced AT ALL by loss of ground or TIME. The only ground to be gained here is HER own POWER EGO. The risk to reward is as such, EGO versus LIFE. CAR versus CYCLE. = ?
The guy was going the same speed and keeping up with traffic there was actually no reason to bother him let alone do what she did. Some people just HAVE to cause problems where there are none and ruin people's day.
3:34 _"As soon as I knew you were being difficult and not using the bike lane"_ That makes it premeditated. She is admitting she already had an aggrievance before anything happened.
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"You punched my car, I was nowhere near you."
These people are demented.
Also thumping the car window is hardly going to damage it is it. Crazy woman. Crazy hair colour.
If he's gonna be punching cars while moving then he shouldn't expect much sympathy from police. They can argue that punching a car while moving can make you lose your balance.
I would never dream of punching a car while riding my ebike.
@yvonq.9346There was literally one next to him for a long while!
@@dtz1000 How fast is your e-bike?
@yvonq.9346 They’re retarded mate. They’ll happily take them on hiking trails but can’t properly use the facilities provided. We not as lucky around where I live. We don’t have enough.
I drive a lbw van. I “picked up” a cyclist just after I let home today. He was riding quite swiftly, between 20 and 25mph. He seemed to be going the same way as me so I was happy to shadow him as the road was busy. I shadowed him for two miles before I deemed it safe to overtake him, safe being 6ft in my book. He was aware that I was there and probably realised I was holding back because of the length of my van. It cost me probably less than a minute in total lost time but better I lose a minute than lose him a lifetime.
From a cyclist, thank you Mr Reynolds! I bet he really appreciated your considerate driving, as I would have done 😀
Good man 👍
A big 'Thank you, Sir' from a German Cyclist.
@@dappa9996 Cars kill people, bicycles rarely if ever do. They are not required to follow the laws that cars are; for bicycles it is guidance, like how if a pedestrian crosses when it is safe to a cyclist can do the same
Of course there are plenty of cyclists that aren't safe about it but then that only leads to trouble if both car and cyclist aren't safe about it. Put your ego to the side mate. Maybe it might be a slight inconvenience for you, which you can easily make up, for them there's far more on the line
@Craig McL thank you for talking sense.
An old authoritarian trick: when you know you have done something wrong, go on the offensive and blame others for the wrong. Bet she learned this in the police force.
Yes. Victim-blaming at its finest on display. I expect she has no road awareness anyway (from what we've already seen, also with all those decals blocking vision through the rear windows. She just has no concern at all for his safety. With that attitude, the Guinness rugby shirt, and obvious lack of driving nous, she ought to have been breathalysed. It is well known that police officers are recruited for low IQ too - just to follow orders unquestioningly. I wonder why she felt it okay to park on double yellows and then conduct a conversation in the road instead of on the pavement.
Actually, the cyclist was almost as bad but edges slightly ahead on his moral high horse. Whenever there is an accident I believe the accident is meant to be reported immediately to the police for them to attend. And usually it is stipulated on the insurance policy to notify them too. So her refusing to give her details shows contempt for the law no matter what her godforsaken point was she was trying to make. It's because of these types of road users that everyone's insurance premiums go up. She wouldn't have driven like that in a driving test or she'd have failed by major faults. It's time she should have her license revoked and ordered to take a re-test.
Yep, such as in this case, upload video evidence of blocking the road and deliberately smashing a bike into someone who infringes on the divine right to block the road after they overtake.
And have the effing gall to commit slander by claiming it's something else.
Nope, it's as old as Adam and Eve in the Garden of Eden.
"The woman YOU put here with me-she gave me some fruit from the tree, and I ate it.”
“The serpent deceived me, and I ate.”
@@fredpuntdroad8701 blocking the road?
There was a bike lane, use it
I think judging by Cheshire Police's response, she quite clearly is an ex police officer and they're covering for her. I'd suggest taking it to another police force and demanding they investigate it independently then holding these corrupt p1gs to account
The first thing the motorist says: "You were not in the bike lane".
That leaves no doubt that the actions were intentional.
interestingly, I had a casual conversation with a local police officer recently in which I specifically asked the question of whether one person not perfectly following the law gives another person the right to run them off the road and he said it didn't.
maybe the rules are different in the UK.
It also demonstrates that she was well aware that the cyclist was there.
It would be nice if he would use it. However no excuse to run someone over. Lol
@@bronkdog however, he is keeping pace with traffic, so there is no justifiable claim to offense.
@@kenbrown2808 if he's was keeping pace she wouldn't have had to overtake him
The moment she said she was a ex police officer,that explained why her version of events didn’t match reality.
True. She’s guilty of assault, but also dangerous driving. Typical ex police behaviour. Typical police behaviour. Lying, protecting their own, and failing to uphold the law.
The cyclist should get in touch with Iain Gould- Actions Against the Police Solicitor.
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Pink/purple hair. You know they are going to be trouble.
...and why the rest of the 'gang' did nothing. They are a mafia.
@@G58 l
Definitely an ex copper. Wasn't an accident either.
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Definitely not an accident. When you intentionally try and punch a moving vehicle that takes a degree of thought and planning. The resulting loss of balance from doing so and consequently falling of the bike is purely your own making. Anyone knows that a lateral punch will transfer your centre of gravity (not recommended on a bike) Nothing about this is accidental and the injuries and damages incurred are of his own making. The police came to the right conclusion.
@@naranjavalencia8228 bang on🤣
no doubt in my mind its her mindset that does it for me!
@@BotheredNowUKAUDITS yep she provided her details was assertive but not aggressive. He threw the punches and verbally abused her. Yep she’s the policewoman alright.
‘You punched my car’ followed by ‘I was nowhere near you’ wow…
I'm extremely confident she is an Ex-Police Officer. It's precisely why no action has been taken against her. I'm sorry to say. That when a Police Officer finds themselves in the wrong. It's often the standard procedure for their colleagues to close ranks and protect them. It's an unwritten code of the profession. Officer's who risk not complying with that code. Risk being alienated from their colleagues.
The IOPC is also complicit in this unwritten code. And as a body that investigates the conduct of the Police, it's a joke. As there's that's actually very little about it that's independent of the Police. Given that the majority of complaints made to the IOPC are actually investigated by the Professional Standards Departments of the actual Police Forces the complaints are made against. With only very minimal oversight by the IOPC. In other words. It was almost certainly also Cheshire Police who investigated and ruled on his IOPC complaint against Cheshire Police.
He rightfully succeeded in his insurance claim. Because that's the one part of this whole affair. Over which this Ex-Police Officer and her ex-colleagues at Cheshire Police had no influence or power over.
He still has an option left available. If he's willing to finance it. He could seek a private prosecution of endangerment and assault against the woman. There's extremely little her ex-colleagues could do to protect her against that. She'd be on her own. As private prosecutions are conducted and decided upon entirely by a Magistrate. I'm not a lawyer. But with the evidence he has. I think he'd stand a good chance of succeeding in a private prosecution.
It's called the Blue Line Gang code. As evidenced by their wearing of a defaced Union Jack badge with a blue line through it.
There’s a TH-cam channel called Crime Bodge.
It’s worth a look. This incident demonstrates the need for crime bodge.
@@jimmycburfield5997 crimebodge is a conman, not a real lawyer and praying on the vulnerable.
@@anonomous8719 Could you please extrapolate?
@@anonomous8719 I am still waiting for your revelations, mate.
Over here (netherlands) that woman would be liable for ''article 5'', which is the revoking of her drivers license on the count of endangering other road users with reckless behaviour.
We're a few years behind you. We have a lot of catching up to do.
@@deputyVH A bit more then a few. But hopefully things will get better. We also need classes to help folk learn up be comfortable riding on the road. I can't even go five feet on a bike and I can't be the only one
Quite I was driving Netherlands 25+ years ago with a Dutch passenger and she told me in no uncertain terms that if I hit a cyclist whatever they were doing the police would assume I was at fault until I could prove otherwise (same for pedestrians). I was taking care but not clearly enough for my Dutch passenger. I took more care. I am a lifetime cyclist too. We need the same approach here. That woman should not be driving, she clearly does not have the intelligence to drive properly! I hope he prosecutes her.
@@Stettafire I am a cycling coach and trying to get adults to learn how to ride a bike properly is quite frankly a nightmare.
@@taichpaulwhy’s that..? bike handling skills, or…?
Sounds like a clear case of police corruption, there needs to be further compaints and maybe even writing the MP. This woman deserves to be charged with assault at the least for trying to harm a cyclist, and the police who collaborated with her need fired
Huh? But when did the roadrager assault the woman? All this is, is criminal damage from deliberately slamming into the car after she overtakes the roadrager and he's like "My blocking of the road failed! Revenge!!"
You can't assault a car, only a person. If you deliberately slam your bike into a car and damage it, that's called criminal damage, or sometimes vandalism depending on your local jurisdiction.
@@fredpuntdroad8701 She was the roadrager. You are clearly unfit to be on the roads if you think otherwise.
@@fredpuntdroad8701 She had no room to overtake and he didnt not move, which means she drove into him, not him into her. He was following the advice given to cycle safely.
I think you are probably a very dangerous man, you can look at a woman driving into a cyclist deliberately out of some kind of anger at cyclists generally then claim the opposite.
You should never drive again, its too dangerous. you cannot be trusted, as you drive at people who annoy you then blame them for your poor driving.
@@dorianleakey
There was an entire lane and a cycling lane, in which to fit a cycle and a car. That is THE textbook of enough room.
As you saw, the roadrager was deliberately blocking the lane in order to cause nuisance and danger, so the driver overtook using half the lane and half the oncoming lane, as you should.
The idiotic roadrager then deliberately damaged her car, and should've been put in the ground right then and there.
Which part of 'safe cycling' is telling you to block a road and perpetrate criminal damage? Go on, show which part says "Deliberately slam into cars who have overtaken you"
@@fredpuntdroad8701 The cyclist was keeing up with traffic, with no space in front and the cycle lane was gone, you are just a liar who hates cyclists getting places quickly, so you will rewrite reality. He is not blocking the lane, he is using it, there was literally no space for your motorist to move into, but the motorist decided to force them into the side.
you are just a liar, pretending to see soemthign you dont because you want to force people you see as having inferior vehicles into danger, for being in inferior vehicles.
We also all see the car slam into the cyclist, you liar, you say they should tb put into the ground, you advocate murder for a cyclist not getting out of the way, you are a danger to other humans, a fan of murdering people based on a lie, where a cycle maintains the same line, not moving and you call the slamming into a car.
Deeply disturbing that she wasn't prosecuted.
she was part of the club........ all protected
really from police today police are a joke now
@@oddjobtriumph1635 Pedo pink hair, says it all really.
Yet someone just got sent to jail for smoking a doobie
Yes the police protect their own, the law is for being imposed on everyone else not them, they think they're exempt. Another cover up with no justice.
"Just so you know there's a bike lane there and you weren't using it, therefore I simply had to run you over and it's all your fault. I felt the uncontrollable urge to teach you a lesson you wouldn't forget as in my everyday life I have no power at all."
Police deemed it was alright so maybe Cyclist is just being a bit difficult?
@@Alpacajon Or maybe they are just looking after their own (if she was one once).
@@Alpacajon Trust cycling videos to bring out idiots. How could she be in "her" lane when she was straddling the lane? And who says the police are known for their understanding of traffic regulations and the highway code?
@@bobbending Absolutely, I thought she was chatting shit at first saying she was an ex copper, but as soon as Ash said they were defending her and reprimanding the cyclist, my opinion changed.
Just had someone nearly do this to me earlier but sped up behind me and cycle lane was shut
Being Dutch and both a driver and cyclist it's so sad that something that looks more like a narrow gutter is seriously considered to be a "cycle lane".
@Craig McL That Sound like it's even more dangerous than drive between the cars. Cycle lanes here are very good and maintenance is too. But even on streets without cycle lanes it's safe for cyclists as all the cars are aware that the cyclists are there and they take cyclists into account as equal road users.
Most cycle lanes in the UK are awful, especially if you cycle on a road bike at around 20mph. Never mind that as soon as you enter one cars think they can pass by a few inches from your handlebars because the white line on the road says it is ok.
The whole UK Cycling initiative was badly thought out..it will always cause Friction and stress to Drivers and Cyclists...Cycle lanes are great when they are properly separated from Roads...
and in those narrow Gutters there is often Leaves ,Manholes and Drains... and other Detritis which makes them unsafe to use .
You should see the size of the parking spaces. Try getting a large car in one without a) hitting one of the cars in the spaces to the left and right, or b) going over the lines of another space, and c) having enough room to open your door a decent amount without hitting the car to the right.
@@rogueuniversities6866 That problem exists here as well. New parking lots will probably designed to the sizes of todays cars but we have a lot of older parking spaces too. My neighbourhood was built in the early seventies and parking spaces remained the same but cars got bigger and bigger.
Cheshire Police Force should be ashamed of themselves..... that is not how to deal with this case..... but a police officer doesn't blow the whistle on another,right? Ex or not don't matter..... like in this example..... what a disgrace for a police force....
They should be tagged in this video to see if they still stand behind their assessment of the incident.
Cheshire Police endorse their officers committing serious perjuries to initiate baseless criminal prosecutions.
As dishonest as any / the worst criminal gang. It has the same morals as a vet shooting local pets with an air-rifle to generate trade for their surgery..
Old police habits clearly die hard for this ex-officer.
The ex-officer clearly believed that she had ownership of that bit of road, and was quite happy to enforce this.
@@internaught1227
I have linked the video to Cheshire traffic police and Cheshire police on twitter, telling them it's a disgrace.
Keep an eye on their Twitter and the next time they post anything about traffic prosecutions embarrass them with this clip.
@@meatismurder2862 link?
Absolutely insane how atrociously the police handled this, especially when it was escalated
Probably is ex police, the words “you’re being difficult” is a classic police line when you don’t do what they want you to do. They are protecting their own, that’s why it went no further
Oh, it needs to go further. The driver needs to go down. The officers responding need to go down.
Both traffic sergeants need to go down.
They need to understand that if they "protect their own", they go down as well.
totally agree
that's thing's a freak !
loll at that crap on the back of shitbox motor 😬
says it all 🤣
he was knocked straight off
that freak was full of anger, it's
an absolute travesty.!?!
no wonder there's so much hatred & anarchy ....
Agree 👍
Woman and ex cop. She will most likely get away with everything.
Police protecting their own as per usual.
She basically admits that she tried to force him off the road because he wasn't using the bike lane (which had ended by the point the collision happened).
How do u know?
@@billyt9921 From watching the video that this comment is on. Scroll back up and you'll be able to see it. Might have to press play.
The blue wall is a real problem, police officers should be held to the same standards as other people, if not more since they are public servants and should be setting an example.
There is no legal obligation to use a bike lane, they are often unfit for use and certainly if your matching the speed of traffic " owning the lane" is the correct thing to do !
@@billyt9921 you have watched the video?
If I collided with a cyclist, knocking him to the ground, I'm pretty sure my first reaction would be ' Is the cyclist OK ?', not 'I must immediately accuse the cyclist of being at fault, irrespective of how badly he might be injured'. But then I'm not a sociopath.
It all started with the driver seing the cyclist not in cycle lane he probably didn't know at this point the cycle lane ends. So he thinks he not in cycle lane n taking the piss
Then again, you've probably never had a dumb roadrager block you in, and then deliberately smash into your left side after overtaking them.
Pretty sure if somene 100% deliberately caused you criminal damage, your first response would be 'This dumb criminal is at fautl' instead of 'Is the criminal okay?'.
If I where a cyclist there's no way I would ride in the gutter, alot of motorists don't notice how deep the sinks can be in the roads and how bad the sides of the roads in the UK actually are..
But saying that alot of cyclists don't help thselves and make all cyclists look bad
At the end of the day they have the same rights and guidance as cars and your driving lessons teach you to be careful around cyclists and to give them space, I always give them 1m minimal distance, if I can not get that distance I stay behind them..
This probably comes from my motorcycle days.
If she was an ex copper she would know that no one at the scene of a collision is supposed to discuss liability.
As soon as she refused to give me insurance details would be the second I was on the phone to the police as refusing to give insurance details IS a crime under Section 170 of the Road Traffic Act.
The road traffic acts aren't laws. Acts and statutes are only given the force of law with your consent. Remember, covid, when you said you was exempt from wearing masks, and they couldn't question you... this is the same principle😂
Unfortunately you are half right. It says where injury has occurred, an insurance certificate or proof of Insurance or exemption must be produced, IF NOT the accident must be reported to the Police Within 24 hours.
This safeguards the driver/s of giving the other half of the Road Traffic Collision, their details and you may feel scared or intimidated in doing so.
I have heard that before and it beggars belief - "I was nowhere near you" and also "you punched my car". If you are obeying the rules of the road there is no way a cyclist can touch your car... unless the bike is being ridden by Inspector Gadget!
Whilst I don't agree with punching someone's car to make the point, I can't argue with the fact that if a cyclist *can* punch your car, you're too damn close in the first place!
@CycleCam UK no, you're not legally "allowed" to punch a car. He should have tried to move away from the car, clearly she's using the car as a weapon
@@musography6958 What's the law against punching a car? It's not a person, you can't assault it. You're not legally allowed to damage it of course.
Thump on the car alerts driver that there’s a cyclist there. She already knew he was there but hey, worth a try right
@@musography6958 ofc, he should have just moved left into the gutter, gotten stuck on something and fallen over, preferable under the vehicle that pushed him off to the side. Do you also tell victims of assault that they shouldnt have fought back?
Narcissism is becoming a HUGE problem for society.
Quite right!
I mean, what kind of person looks at society and sees only violence and horror and rather fall into a pit of dispair goes "I know what can solve this- ME!"
Not sure these people are trying to 'solve' anything, what happens is they drive down the road and the slightest annoyance can cause them what is known as a 'Narcissistic injury' the annoyance threatens their control and they see RED!
What simply went on with this clips Narcissist is the cyclist threatened the control of the motorist just by being there,
Something as simple as overtaking a Narcissist or complaining about their poor, self-entitled driving can cause RAGE!!!!!! As you say it's all about me, me, me, me, me!
We do though see Narcissism everywhere, politics, clergy, police, celebrities, sports stars etc etc etc, from the very bottom of society all the way to the very top.
My mum is a covert narcissist sadly.
So is bad dye jobs.
Yeh from both sides...
The cyclist must take out a private prosecution against that driver for assault as it was clearly deliberate.
yes agreed private prosecution, clearly police looking out for their own!
Assault with a deadly weapon
@@ronpalmer1371 I do hope you do drive with an attitude like that. You are almost as vile as the driver.
@@ronpalmer1371 you know what you typed here could be used against you if you were to collide with a cyclist as it shows intent to do harm. I would think carefully when you type this sort of silly comment. Besides the cyclist was in the correct position for the junction and the woman should have waited patiently behind him to pass on the opposite side. To make matters worse, if you look at the position she initially accosts the cyclist when she pulled up she forces the confrontation within the junction itself, another sign that she hit him intentionally.
@@ronpalmer1371 I'm not sure what the rules are in the UK, but I'm betting they're similar to the rules in Germany. Which are, that inside cities the distance between you and a cyclist needs to be at least 1.5m and 2m outside the city when passing. there was nowhere near enough room for that on this particular street. even if the cyclist didn't ride in the middle of the street.
After a careful and thorough investigation by the Merseyside Police, the Merseyside Police has found the Merseyside Police innocent of any wrong-doing.
Cheshire police, clearly stated in the video...
He should contact crimebodge and bring across a private prosecution.
I just put out a crimebodge recommendation. Seen the latest this morning? Maybe our cyclist should say he identifies as gender number 67 on the massive list, and that cat driver was being transphobic. They’d be straight on her
@@highdownmartin haha 👍🏻
@@highdownmartin Maybe you should criticise the motorist without some cuntish dig at minorities?
@@mentaldavethefirst agreed. Having a go at trans people is not on. Crimebodge does do good work to bring justice against morally corrupt police officers which is why I suggested it. I did just watch the video that highdownMartin was talking about and although it comes across as crude and unsympathetic to the discrimination against the trans community it is ultimately a dig at the polices bias as they push a political agenda when they should stick to their guns and give everyone fair treatment, regardless of background.
@@fredmercury1314 yeah! It's a police issue and nothing else.
She's an absolutely horrendous person. The cyclist did nothing wrong. She ran him off on purpose. And she completely incriminated herself, but police don't care.
Apart from tailgating right at the start
@@Ll-ij2jh what? 🙄
@@FFVoyager the bike is too close to the Audi at the start how you can’t see that astounds me
@@FFVoyager Check the footage nine seconds in, if the Audi would have to emergency brake for any reason he would have been in the back of the Audi
go to specsavers............ Cyclist veered right slightly to punch the car and it was then that he was knocked off. . The cyclist could have moved nearer to pavement once cycle lane ended. The cyclist sped up to race past the car instead of slowing down or move over and not be dumb by risking what could have been a much more horrible chain reaction of accident by other motorists coming up the road. . Now that we pointed out the cyclists faults and options, lets start with one main thing not mentioned... HOW could the car driver have recorded cyclist on impact unless she had phone in hand whilst driving ??? but in reality all she had if there was dashcam would have been the cyclist using the road he was allowed to in front of her and the cam would show her veering over towards the pavement before getting by and being clear of the cyclist. . BOTH did wrong
I suppose if a tractor was in front she'd ask why they're not using the fields.
😆😆
GOOD POINT.......wonder if she would try a similar overtake on a 44 tonne Artic?? Very much doubt it so why a cyclist??
Why wasn’t she using the motorway?
@@JamieRossUK she was using her mouth instead
What a silly comparison lol
Car driver 100% in the wrong, didn't even ask the bloke if he was ok after being run off the road, unbelievable! This is the old story of coppers sticking together which is a real problem in the police force, its actions like this when the police dont uphold the law and have a biased towards their colleagues that lead to problems. Sometimes huge problems, it was a sticking together mentality that let that Wayne Couzens remain an officer when he should of been dismissed a long time ago.
'Being difficult 'and' Give me your details and I will not Provide mine,'are the Phrases that identifies her as Police, or ex police, the sense of entitlement is off the scale.
When she says “you were being difficult” to me that is her admitting she decided to “teach the cyclist a lesson”. Essentially assaulting the cyclist with a weapon (her vehicle). She shouldn’t be allowed on the roads.
Also, any “police officer” would know swapping details after an accident is a legal requirement.
Well, her pink hair is a warning sign.
She tried to give the evil man her interpretation of social justice.
Obviously knew she was at fault at fault, pointless given the canner has filmed her reg plate
@@battleofwills7189 Ex cop covered in union flags. Yeah that's a classic SJW...
@@battleofwills7189 The moment I noticed the pink hair, that screamed "feminist lunatic" to me
Sorry, but you can't have it both ways. As you said the car driver decided to teach the cyclist a lesson by using her car. She can't then claim damages when she caused the damage by hitting the cyclist with her car. If I were the cyclist I would have given her a mouth full, and carried on my way. There's no accident here, she did it deliberately; so why swap insurance, not that the cyclist would have any.
As a hgv driver all I can say is wow, what a piece of work she is , but what can you expect from the police,
I know. It's sad.
She's not a cop. Probably hasn't been one for years ,if at all, I'll just add I was run off the road in my VAN ,by an hgv driver a few years ago. Said he didnt see me in a Merc sprinter !!!!Good job I don't think all hgv drivers are the same. Just saying.
As a former traffic police officer in my opinion the alleged ex police officer is at fault for trying to cut into the cyclists traffic lane from the right when there was no space for her vehicle to do so. There wasn't any cycle lane as it had ended prior to her poor attempt. For me it's Section 3 careless/inconsiderate driving against her and the footage clearly shows the collision to be her fault. The investigating officer is wrong imo.
Karens and muppets everywhere my wife would say. Ex policemen are the worst for calling their old mates on the force and getting it smoothed out under the table so-to-speak. There is a very powerful unwritten rule within the force where they will go to great lengths to defend their associates, even at the risk of being seen as wrong, or showing bias. This type of behaviour has to stop, in the real world when you make a mistake, regardless of who you are, or have been, we should all be prepared to admit that mistake and make amends.
The female driver pushed the cyclist off the road on purpose!
She had the cyclist in front of her car. Then she moved parallel next to him on the road and pushed him to the side!
100% intentional. She knew exactly what she was doing with her car during this whole incident.
She also timed her assault to take advantage of the ever so slight increase in road width at the intersection; but failed miserably trying to execute the manoeuvre.
Where I stand is attempted manslaughter, The cyclist might have died through her actions. He should sue her.
Wasn't even room to get between the bike and the car in front. It was a manoeuvre to nowhere even if she hadn't hit him.
she probably was an ex-cop. Because when the gent was putting his side to the story she accused him of being disruptive that is a well-known tactic from the police.
My manager did that to me. He was insane
@@doingmybest6438 The police I often find get very uptight when you call them out and know more than they do.
Ugh, reminds me of "Don't answer back!"
"stop resisting"
@@rogueuniversities6866 Are you ill? Who do you think is 'in charge'?
Whilst the manoeuvre itself was awful I have to admit I'm even more horrified by the complaints procedure afterwards. That's assault and on the face of it this looks like cronyism at its worst with the police complaints procedure as crooked as a banana republic. Why if the cyclist was in the wrong did the insurance company settle. Serious questions have to be asked and police officers held to account here.
'zactly
Unfortunately thats typical of the police. They love to protect their own. There are police who get off with written or verbal warnings for much more than this, and so I am genuinely not suprised by the result. If I was the cyclist, and I had the funds or could be bothered, I'd bring a private prosecution against that woman, which, in this case, I am sure with a decent lawyer or even a barrister, he would win easily.
@@brad7943 You constantly hear "you will always get one bad apple in the barrel" Aye perhaps, but that doesn't wash when every other apple covers up for it.
Two traffic sergeants giving their opinion without an appeal route doesn’t seem that impartial to me. A formal review by another Police force or an independent Police body would be a way forward.
Insurance settles all the time. If one side is a bellend company and flat out refuses to pay despite the video proving it was criminal damage and the bellend roadrager deliberately slammed his bike into the car, there's not much your own insurance can do other than go to court, which costs a lot.
So whenever court costs would outstrip the unfairness of the settlement, they settle.
And a roadrager scratching one panel on a car like that, isn't very expensive.
The problem is the police refusing to charge the cyclist with criminal damage, despite it clearly being an intentional crash because he felt his divine right to block the road had been infringed by the driver.
Also for the cyclist. The next victim he decides to slam into may not be as levelheaded and decide to make some highspeed introductions between the bellend cyclist's head and the pavement to see if that can beat some common sense into him. It's that sort of entitled criminal behaviour how people really get hurt on the road, so the cyclist should be charged to unlearn this behaviour.
I just remembered, she tried to establish her superiority be stating she'd been driving 35 years -
When the cyclist said he'd been driving longer she immediately went to _"It's not a competition"_ ...
The police response tells me she was a copper, they always close ranks even in retirement. The police IMO need a MASSIVE reform they are at this moment in mentality and reality just the biggest gang.
There's not a week that goes by that another police officer is in the papers for rape, murder, animal abuse or some other horrific crime. Tells us everything we need to know and makes you wonder what else they are getting away with and they are covering up. Probably just the tip of the iceberg. I have a horrible feeling it's going to get worse before it gets better.
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It's shocking that this is the UK and the police here are so overtly corrupt in thousands of cases. I'm glad more people are becoming aware of their nonsense. Hopefully there is a change soon, starting from their internal complaints appeals board. They need monitoring by an impartial body who are not able to be bribed or threatened
@@KayMac1 Nothing shocking about it at all, its awful but expected. Police in all countries are shit and corrupt like that to a more or lesser degree.
@@Noi5ee shocking in the sense that we are supposed to be an advanced and fairly docile country in the first world where we are generally well educated. The corruption is overt to the level that many officers are now aware they are being recorded and still continue to act unlawfully. Almost as if they know the system is behind their corruption and they don't care if they get seen doing it any more
She should be banned from driving. That was disgusting. A few years ago a friend of mine got clipped by a car that sped off and left him laying on the pavement. Despite several witnesses including one who got the car reg, no action was taken against the driver. Turned out in the end that he was an off duty Police officer.
very interesting.
Rules for thee but not for me.
Bent coppers. She was probably struck off the force for being corrupt in her false notes.
This is what earns them the hate, geez and the gestapo and the SS were thought to be bad here's the modern equivalent
Its crazy because i witnessed something similar happen, its dangerous for cyclists to be on the road, hence why i do belive they shouldn't, for there safety.
She needs taking off the road before she kills someone. Wasn't aware the cycle lane had ended and doesn't seem to think that if a cyclist can punch your car it means you are too close. The response from the police is shocking but I can't say I am surprised.
The root issue here is the car driver’s sense of superiority over the cyclist. The police comment that the cyclist should stay out of the way is just plain wrong. Fortunately the highway code has updated to address the fallacy that there is a hierarchy of road users. The car driver was absolutely in the wrong because she failed to show proper consideration for a more vulnerable road user. The lack of action by the police in this case is a serious failure. We all have a duty to protect each other on the roads.
Correct, and fast forward a. Couple of years and there would be penalty points for passing that close.
The cyclist should file a private prosecution.
Yep all the way and sue the police also.
@@legobatman8353 I was thinking exactly the same thing.
@@legobatman8353 that would be the end when he could have been taken seriously
Crimebodge has a massive success rate when suing the police wich is actually quite rare he has sued them successfully multiple times he aint a fool
@@unitedforever9291 sure, he takes obvious cases, when the police indeed was very much in wrong, and he has practice. But he has a huge bias too
why was she trying to get around him anyway when he was keeping up with the flow of traffic. She also have a massive case of "must overtake syndrome". If he was a motorbike going at the exact same speed she would never have bothered. Some people are crazy, they think them getting to their destination 10 seconds sooner is more important than someone else's health and wellbeing. I hope this video changes the police stance as it will reach lots of people and make them look very bad and very crooked protecting their own
The urgency to overtake has actually cost her more time having to pull over and try and justify her actions. Hopefully her premiums have now gone up significantly for the next 5 years.
Must get to the next red traffic light asap! Yes, overtake cyclist, stop at next queue, so cyclist can undertake me again.
It's also funny because at this traffic speed he would have quickly overtaken her.
I ride a motorbike and it even happens with me that I overtake a cyclist and lo and behold 5-15 seconds later I'm overtaken either because of a red light of slow traffic that I can't pass.
Not true I have this happen on a motorcycle and seen it happen to another motorcyclist cars are fucking crazy. Car drivers just see anything less than a car shouldn't be in their way.
She shouldn’t be on the road.
The cyclist really needs to take this much further. Get the press involved and make a complaint about the police officers involved. The actions of the insurance company should work well in his favour. I agree that this was, most likely, a deliberate act of assault. There is no way that she has 'nothing to answer for'. Personally, I feel that woman should both face jail time for her actions, and permanently lose her license. I also feel that the officers involved should be criminalised since this is, obviously, corruption.
She was making her point with her im mightier than thou attitude, the insurance company eventually acted in the cyclists favor, on their investigation their legal team had assessed the video, insurance companies dont pay out easily, so what makes her's and the police version so different to the cyclist's?
I wonder if she will declare the accident on her next renewal, with her attitude probably not, meaning she submits a fraudulent renewal to her insurance company?
@@wolvoman1 The insurance company will know about the claim as it's logged on a shared database
I would take atch take this further to my local MP. And also involve Kit Williamson (Minister for Police), Priti Patel (Home Office), and some of the national policing bodies
Jail time is quite harsh, she should get a hefty fine instead
@@louisbryant2302 She could have killed or seriously injured the cyclist by driving dangerously.
Unless the fine is £10,000+ , a fine isn't fitting for this type of crime.
Speechless! I am a lifelong competitive cyclist, on flat roads my average speed exceeds 20mph, I am sick and tired of being told to get on the effing cycle lane or path. The way forward has to be education, as most car drivers have a warped view of what the rules are. That’s why I have started following your channel, someone with common sense and a fair analysis from both points of view.
I believe there are deeper psychological issues going on here with car drivers, a lot of these people wouldn’t be so aggressive if you were standing next to them in a supermarket queue. She knew he was there and bullied him, the consequence was clear for all to see, the police connection does have me wondering.
What motorist forget is that 99.99% of cyclists are also motorists.
The non cyclist motorists feel superior and cocooned in their 1 ton plus of metal and their journey is far more important than yours! I have never known it so bad in my 40 plus years of cycling.
Why exactly do you not like being told to cycle in the part of the road specifically made safe for you?
@@illegalopinions4082why exactly should they use a cycle lane? A lot of cycle lanes are not fit for purpose and there are lots of reasons to not want to use a cycle lane and often cycle lanes that are perhaps appropriate for leisurely cycling are not appropriate for a road cycle due to bumps, cracks, debris, obstacles, dropped kerbs or simply the end of the cycle lane coming up anyway. Also a cyclist may be turning right. Do you know how hard it can be to get across one or two lanes of traffic if you’re all the way over in cycle lane?
The roads are to be shared and not just for cars.
@@illegalopinions4082 Tarmac roads were originally and specifically made for cycling, as the prior types of surfacing were not safe for cycle wheels. Many "cycle lanes" are just glass-ridden hole-pocked drain-filled gutters that often disappear at potential conflict points, so where's the safety in that?
@@rednammoc Dismount and use the pavement to walk or cross if you aren't confident in your road craft? Solutions are available, yet cyclists willingly choose to not use them.
Late reply but as a hgv driver and car driver I have always disliked some cyclists attitude, that is, until recently I decided I would cycle to work, what an eye opener, I’m way more patient and allow more than the minimum safe distance, however I also try to make it easier for traffic to get around me. An example would be when there’s no way they could get around me safely rather than forcing them to sit behind me at 15mph ish, I will nip onto the path to allow traffic to safely pass then move back to the road, unless of course there are pedestrians.
SOME cyclists cause themselves issues, MOST car drivers cause everyone issues and the occasional HGV driver should not be driving a HGV.
Nobody is infallible however we should all work together to ensure every road user gets to their destination safely.
How the hell was she not prosecuted, that was a purposeful malicious action and absolutely entirely her fault. 🤯
The police and government affiliated organizations are a lot more slimy than some may think
Because she's a former copper. Dodgy
Police are immune, they are the ones investigating themselves.
She's an ex member of the police gang.
She was in the wrong in my opinion.
What a vile human being. What is the point of the overtake anyway? He's keeping up with the car in front. I'd never overtake someone who is keeping up with traffic, whatever they are driving.
100% this is a violent attack. How the police can expect the general public to respect them when so many are so obviously corrupt!
Politicians partying in lockdown is prime example of this!
Yeah i dont get it as well. Why won't the police prosecute this woman when they have all the evidence they need being handed to them? There are many incidents like this with perfect evidence being available but nothing seems to happen.
@@ewanrollo5527 It's called corruption. The police are known to protect their own. Same happened when there was a malicious prosecution against me, the inspector lied through his teeth.
@@bigkification see my comment
Both are actions taken from a position of power, and this is why sociopaths have such a greed for power, and try getting to such a position at any price. To a sociopath, power is the road to always getting what they want. You bet 100% that this "accident" was done on purpose.
Whenever a sociopath feels that they can hurt another person, whether it is emotionally or physically, regardless of whether the other person ever did anything to them, their secret anger issues come out, and the only reason she needed to deliberately strike the cyclist is the fact that she can. This rage was only aggravated by her sense of entitlement to think that she would have a right to claim the cyclist's place on the broad lane.
But I have seen enough examples of rage where there wasn't even have a hint of provocation. It happens all too often, and too often it is sold off as "normal" when in fact, it isn't. Sociopathy is a *disorder*, and nobody should need be governed, commanded, or otherwise harassed by a disordered individual.
"You had a bike lane you weren't using"
That's punishable by death then is it?
It should be punished by fines and also is this the same explanation you give when you run red lights
@@Flackoknows You think not using a cycle path should be punishable by fines?
My friend got pushed (deliberately) over on his bike by a person starting to cross a road as he cycled through a green light. Turns out the person mistook the lights for being red and decided to take violent revenge. When their mistake was pointed out, they sort of apologised and hurried off. While my friend let it go initially as he wasn't particularly hurt and his bike was ok, but after he checked his backpack, he realised his laptop had been damaged and so decided to report it at a nearby police station. The officer at the desk told him it was an assault and that they would be taking action. But then he saw the guy who had pushed him over in uniform in a room behind the desk. He informed the officer at the desk and he left to speak to the man my friend had just identified. A few minutes later he returned and told my friend that he'd made a mistake, and that this didn't class as an assault, but rather a traffic offence.
I'm sure that woman is a former police officer as the actions from the police in the face of clear evidence don't make sense. …unless they are protecting someone. It happens. Where's AC-12 when you need them?
It’s incredible really how some are above the law, you’d think in this country they wouldn’t be so privileged but still, Joe Public loses out when wronged by a representative of the state.
Car drivers should be aware that cyclists may need space to avoid potholes, grids, glass etc. Whether there is a cycle lane or not she would not have been any quicker to her destination by biding her time for a few seconds. No remorse or concern for an obviously injured guy , awful.
I think she was already pissed off that he wasn't using the cycle lane, she got irrational and eventually bumped him. Cars are heavy things and killing machines. All us drivers need to keep the rage under check.
I think the cyclist should invest in some elbow an knee pads if hes gonna ride round being a pain in the arse like he was because hes gonna get knocked off regularly
or by passing him completely before moving into the lane.
@@Cybertruck1000 Well said, cars are heavy machines and require a bit of responsibility in their use, driving is a privilege, not a right.
@@Rj-xl8ei Oh I didn't realise being annoying warrants car drivers to be judge jury and executioner.
She had nowhere to go, and there wasn’t room for her to execute the overtake whilst leaving the required 1.5m. The cyclists position on the road was perfect, and he was keeping pace with the traffic flow. This is 100% the drivers fault, and I’m at a loss as to how the Police can state otherwise. I’m going to forward this to British Cycling and to the CTC, this woman is a menace, and a danger to other road users.
God speed
So if motorists have to give 6 foot to cyclists, why do cyclists sqeeze through tiny gaps between vehicles? Seems the lycra brigade pick and choose when these rules apply!
I've had my mirror hit twice by cyclists and also got multiple scratches because cyclists think they can squeeze past me. All cyclists should have identifying numbers and insurance if they are using the road.
@@wittywarlord3869 two wrongs don’t make a right, do they? Cyclists shouldn’t squeeze through non existent gaps and damage vehicles, cars should give good room and realise there’s only one loser in a collision.
@@huwprice881 Some car drivers deliberately stop close to the kerb leaving no gap deliberately. I suspect he is one of those that hate on cyclists and motor cycles filtering through traffic. I have never had a scratch from a cyclist.
Because the cars are at a standstill. That not the same as rolling traffic FYI
The insurance 180 says it all. Insurance companies do not hand money out easily.
What does it mean?
@@deivytrajan it means the insurance company viewed the footage and admitted liability for the accident.
Police still says its the cyclists fault… nice system where car drivers are just allowed to run over cyclists and grt away with it
They will also put her premiums way up to get rid of her.
@@sgxbot In my country, the car would have been at fault unless proven otherwise. Even if proven otherwise the car will most likely still share liability. Simply because you drive in a metal case and you should drive a lot more defensively. I am going to assume, people like her are the reason we have this law.
Why did she even want to pass him there was no room between the cyclist and the car in front
Why would you be so bothered about getting past a cyclist when the traffic isn’t even flowing?
Exactly this, I get overtaken by cars just for them to slam their brakes in front of me
The traffic was indeed moving at the same speed of the cyclist. There was no real advantage in getting past him. This has also happened to me several times with drivers getting past me dangerously just to stop a couple of meters later at a traffic light. In these situations I just back off as I couldn't bother confronting such idiotic people and I could really get hurt if they got angry, as these kind of people often have anger management issues, and might try to hit me on purpose.
You expecting the car driver to use logic?
All kinds of stupid :(
It's similar to learner cars, some drivers see them and make it a mission no matter what to get past quickly. Often leads to accidents. No thinking ahead of whether they even need to.
Failing to give details is a criminal offence. She hit him deliberately.
I would ask why the cyclist doesn't use the cycle lane provided ?
@@CulturedThugPoster why?
@@CulturedThugPoster There's no legal requirement to use it. Certainly you can't ram someone for not using it. What's the worst offence there in your opinion? Also as stated in the video the lane has finished before the incident
@@CulturedThugPoster did you see where it said "END" showing the cycle lane was no more, before she tried to barge ahead and ram him out the way? There was no cycle lane at the point she hit him, so that entire lane belonged to the cyclist. There's literally zero way to misinterpret that.
@@CulturedThugPoster no cycle lane, hes preventing her overtaking and being dangerous as stated in the highway code. He has exactly the same rights as the car, he is in front, and has clear right of way. She has no right what so ever to demand he gets out her way, its her responsibility to safely overtake. Its illegal in the highway code to overtake so closely the cyclist can touch the car, you are supposed to give the same space as a car.
Could you please give an update on this Ashley? It is deeply disturbing that at the time you made the video there hasn't been any criminal prosecution, just an insurance payout.
She tried to unsafely overtake.
You can tell she was a police officer but the police not taking action and protecting their own.
I find it interesting that she says "There was a bike lane there that you weren't using" as if that's some kind of justification for knocking him off the bike. Whether there WAS a bike lane or not, and whether he SHOULD have used it or not, are irrelevant. Still doesn't excuse her.
And there wasn't a bike lane where the cyclist was hit.
was and weren't are past tense so cycle lane was before the impact then.
@@michaelslinger6903 I think the point is IF there had (there wasn't, but for the sake of argument, if there was) a cycle lane at the time, and IF it was mandatory for a cyclist to use them...
Does that justify the what the lady did?
Not in the slightest. In otherwords, it's irrelevant to the case.
sadly most people do this at cyclists, park up on curb's at traffic to prevent filtering. Swerving at them on overtakes to force them to stop. And some will flat out slip you and drive off. Then when you go online, you usually see people say "ugh cyclists cause all these issues."
Its not by chance that the ONE time everyone supports the cyclist, its because the offending car was a former pig. I mean a former copper. Shows that even on the social pryamid, the cops are still the lowest form of scum.
Those narrow cycle lanes in the gutter are a danger. They encourage cars to pass way to close to cyclists and lead to road rage, like this, when the cyclist take primary position.
And for the record, I'm not a cyclist. It's just that I'm now at an age were I see a lot of stupid.
As a cyclist I agree, that bike lane looks way too small to be safe, it just shouldn’t be there
Agree
If this happened to me as a cyclist I would be riding on the pavement from then on. And should I ever get pulled over by the police I will show them this footage and say this is precisely why I don't ride on the road.
@@j2simpso So because some random cyclist had a nasty encounter on the road you’re gonna use that as an excuse to put pedestrians at risk on the pavement?
@@lenka2042 Why have you put words into the mouth of J2simpso. He said if this happened to him he would fear using the road and would use pavements. That's clearly not the same as he WILL only ride on pavements from now on.
This is disgusting, can’t believe she drove like that and the rotten police sided with her. Protect the vulnerable road user should be the rule.
Its about right for an ex copper though!
What a GHASTLY woman.
This makes me sad. He did nothing wrong, if anything he could have taken the lane a bit more assertively but I’m not going to second guess such an experienced commuter cyclist.
Cyclists get on my tits so many of them are deliberately obstructive and ignorant but regardless you protect the vulnerable road users all the time ego should never come into 70% of road user's dont have the maturity to drive.
@@mackie1001 "He did nothing wrong".
Erm.... he deliberately accelerates like mad to stay level with her and prevent the overtake. Listen to the audio. He's clicking up through the gears as fast as he physically can. He knows exactly what he's doing. They're *both* muppets.
The cycle lane is nowhere near wide enough anyway. If it isn't a wide lane, segregated by hardware (bollards, kerbs etc.) it isn't a cycle lane, if it doesn't offer protection, it is just conscience washing for the local council. That, even though he wasn't in a cycle lane when the collision occurred.
In Amsterdam assault on the driver would be justified. The status quo in the UK is very sad. Putting cyclists in hospital by assault with a deadly weapon and getting away with it.
The UK has become a third-world country without laws, justice or security
Cyclist are deadly hear in the UK and now we even have cycle lanes for them with bollards up and they still cycle in front of cars most (not all) cyclist are idiots without much understanding of the roads lights etc
Cyclist = women drivers again most not all
@@stevenrobertson8866 I'd LOVE for there to be cycle lanes with bollards between them and the road. Not all the UK is London...
@@derkylos lmao not all the UK is London sorry pal I'm Scottish and these are in Edinburgh 🤣🤣 love how when the UK is mentioned everyone immediately thinks London 🤦
@@stevenrobertson8866 it says a lot about England as I've seen thes in other parts of Scotland as well
100% deliberate. It should be at least driving without due care
"I'm an ex police officer"
No wonder you got fired then.
LOL immmmagine if he'd said that to her
She’s probs retired Tim
Why was she fired?
Old pals act No case ???
That lady needs her license taken away!
No remorse, no asking if he was all right, just straight into a barrage of abuse and false accusations. This is a common pattern of behaviour for those who know they are in the wrong.
I’m recently out of hospital myself after being knocked off my own bicycle in a similar situation. I can only hope the cyclist here recovers safely.
The Motorist in my opinion was disgusting by not even asking how the cyclist was after knocking him off his bike , I drive a HGV and always give cyclists plenty of room and never get upset when I can’t overtake them until it is safe to do so
Thank you David. In my area the HGV drivers often give me good amount of space and are patient where required. In return if it is safe for me to pull out of their way so they can continue on I will do. It doesn't cost more than 15/20 seconds and we're all winners.
I get a bit upset when they are riding on the fog line (that would be the stripe at the (in the UK) left of the road if it isn't a term used in the UK) at a much lower speed than traffic, when there is plenty of space outside the lane for them to ride safely, because that's a bit inconsiderate. but I won't crowd a cyclist. that would be failing to drive with due care.
@@kenbrown2808 you do realise that they are traffic? They are not some interloper but traffic
@@bigted1347 wait. they're not a tree growing in the road? my horticulture class lied to me?
yes, they are traffic. they are traffic which is traveling significantly lower than the average speed in such a manner that makes it difficult if not impossible to overtake safely and legally, when they could safely allow traffic to overtake. this makes me a bit upset, just like it makes me upset when a person in a car dawdles along in such a manner that traffic that has someplace to be cannot overtake and get along about their business.
is this a concept that is particularly hard to understand?
@@kenbrown2808No. You come across as selfish and self entitled because a bike is legally on the road and your journey might take an extra minute. You have explained your entitlement very well. Kudos
The car driver could have easily got around him. And after the incident she wasn't concerned that she'd knocked someone over. She was prepared to walk through a traffic junction to complain. Says it all about who she is.
She also does something I hate - "I've been driving for X years!" As though that makes them good.
So you're saying the last time you had any training or took any sort of exam was three decades ago, when traffic was a lot less, standards were a lot lower and the Highway Code was a dozen versions old...
It's such a weak argument to propose and stinks of entitlement. If anything it shows that their misconceptions of the highway code have been implemented for 30+ years. There are drivers who have been driving for only a year that will know better than her. I'm glad the cyclist had a quick response to it
I genuinely think people should be re-tested. What other licence increases the standards but just grandfathers in everyone?
Yes, just more time to learn bad habits.
Please don't tar us with the same brush, Adam. I've been driving 45 years. Even though I'm saying it myself, I am a superb driver. Experience is a fantastic thing. I can see things developing before my passengers can. I have avoided so many accidents by anticipation and observation. I can pick up on 'body language' and second-guess. I have undergone the RoSPA course, been trained by Thames Valley Police's top traffic cop, and undergone skidpan testing - all many years ago, but I still practice all I was taught. I've only had one 'my fault' accident, and that was 20 years ago (and even that involved a speeding driver, but I was classed by the insurer as at fault). I drive a van during the day, and a car at weekends. Thanks.
@@barryfoster453 Hey Barry. Sorry if it seemed like that was an age thing, it wasn't meant against any particular group. It just bugs the crap out of me when people think doing something for long is the same as doing it well. Sounds like you did the smart thing and took further training over time, so your standards will be much higher than most. I'm on about those like a certain person I know who has been 'riding for over a decade', by getting their CBT every 2 years on the back of a 125...
30 years plus driving, ROSPA advanced trained, GTI driver here, who has just bought himself a Specialized hybrid and who hasn't cycled for 16 years. Your content looks pretty good, so just subbed 👍
Totally the ‘ex police officer’s’ fault, never overtake a cyclist in slow moving traffic such as this. If you know they’re there give them plenty of room regardless of where the driver think they’re going.
I’ve learnt a lot from the likes of cycling channels such as CyclingMikey and motorbike channels like RoyalJordanian to understand the vulnerable cyclists are.
Thank you good sir for those channel names, I will seek them out and binge watch 'em. :D
CyclingMikey at Gandelf Corner is brilliant, can’t say I’m too fond of CycleGaz
Crimebodge Crimebodge Crimebodge 🙄
While I agree about the vulnerability of cyclists ; I am not a fan of CyclingMikey and his militant and often obstructive tactics , which he has been warned about by the police before .
I also do not find his activities ethical , since he goes on crusades looking for people to ‘snitch’ on ; he might have done well in 1930s Germany, but in the USA or South Africa , someone would just have shot him by now , so why does he think it acceptable here .
I am not condoning phone use or off siding around bollards , neither of which I ever do myself ; but he is not a police officer and it is simply not his place to do these things . One day he will cross the wrong person and end up dead or crippled .
@@derekheeps1244 You seem a bit entitled and butthurt. The law is the law, being a police person or not doesn't matter. People are prosecuted for breaking the law. No one makes them do it, they just feel entitled to do it.
No wonder there's a poor standard of driving when the authorities do nothing.
it's because they are Lazy ..... Now if the Cyclist had been one of our Diverse friends ...the car driver would have been sent to prison for the rest of her life
@@oddjobtriumph1635 what do u mean by diverse?
@@jackbardenpromotion he’s being a nob bringing race into this for no reason, just ignore him.
@@oddjobtriumph1635 nothing to do with race here...
@@TrequartistaFM just thought i would jump on the Bandwagon.... seeing as all the woke leftie numpties bring race into everything.... just thought i would give it a go.... am i not allowed the same right as the other idiots? .. please enlighten me
The police in this country are a joke. This should be an open and shut case of dangerous driving. They have video of the event, of the person and her car number plate.
This is a slam dunk for them, an easy conviction for their targets and removing someone from the roads who is genuinely a danger to other road users ... but no. Instead they turn a blind eye.
Just shocking from the car driver. She could see he was there and she didn’t even give him a chance. As you said Ashley, it is an assault.
This is a valuable lesson. If you ever get knocked off your bike on purpose by an agressive driver don't stand around arguing. As soon as they come yelling at you about cycle lanes say nothing and just start hitting them mercilessly until they're unconscious on the ground then steal their car and if anything happens just say you had a cousin who was once roommates with a police officer and you'll get off free.
You must use cycle lanes where possible!
@@KILLER.KNIGHT you cant use your car as a force to push someone out of the way mate its traffic you arent going anywhere any faster why are you protecting someone being aggressive for no reason
@@user-fk9vm6no5i I’m not doing that. Just because I’m telling how to behave doesn’t mean I’m siding with the bully drivers!
@@KILLER.KNIGHT no. Idiot you don’t have to.
@@KILLER.KNIGHT Really, since when, my copy of the Highway Code doesn't even say I should never mind must. Most painted cycle lanes are literally worse than nothing in terms of cycle safety.
No wonder so many people have so little trust in the police.
Cyclist should send the video to crimebodge
Superintendent Ted Hastings, whilst watching this video: 'Sweet Mary, Joseph and the wee donkey, here we go again.'
Why bother behaving in a rational or decent manner when you can get away with anything
They can't use the 'lack of funding or resources' defence for this one, since all the evidence is there for them to see on the video.
They've got better things to do than babysit pain in the arse cyclists
An overtake wasn't even necessary. Considering the traffic was slow moving
Unfortunately some ignorant drivers cannot stand driving behind a bicycle.
Classic example here of a cycle lane that does more harm than good. The cyclist rightly recognises that the lane is too narrow and puts them way too close to the cars in heavy traffic.
As a cyclist myself the only thing i might do differently here is take up and even more primary position - any less than fully in the middle of a lane of traffic and some drivers think they can bully their way past you. Incredibly dangerous and the cyclist is in no way at fault, but in the UK we are dealing with generations of drivers who have no conception of how to share the road.
I'm a driver and I have known for well over 40 years that a cyclist, as a road user, has the right to use the entire carriageway. All of it. It's in the Highway Code and was taught to schoolchildren as young as 6 as part of Cycling Proficiency (is that even a thing nowadays?). There has never been an obligation to cringe into the gutter to allow cars to overtake, because of the possibility of having to avoid raised ironworks / drains / detritus. That being said, if their speed is impeding the flow of traffic, they should move to the left of the carriageway to allow overtaking (and that overtaking is only to be done by the driver when safe and not requiring encroachment back into the carriageway, crowding the cyclist into the kerb). Also in the Highway Code.
Note "should move". Not "must move". Because their use of the road in a safe manner for themselves and others, avoiding hazards and obstacles, etc., outweighs the desire of someone behind who wants to travel faster. Just like any other road user.
Mrs ex-Copper has no excuse for not knowing what was in the code (and still is) when she passed her test.
"You were being difficult!"
*proceeds to knock him over*
What a vicious woman!
Total karen
THATS NO WOMAN
Typical of most cyclists, should have been in the cycle lane, instead rides in the middle of the car lane just to try and be clever and hold cars up and then punches the car for overtaking. Totally deserved it , more should be knocked over.
@@MW-ro7vc there was no bike lane
@@johnwilson9328 there was when he the problem started watch it again
Safety first. Always safety first. Even if a cyclist were to be in the wrong position, never drive in a manner that could endanger them. It's scary that how this woman behaved. She shouldn't be allowed behind the wheel.
Terrifying!
You know that goes both ways, right? If this 'cyclist' rode daily in a major American city he would be dead within a year. "The bike lane has nothing to do with it" The only way to ride a bike in traffic, and survive, is to assume that every car is actively trying to kill you.
@@Johnny-rj9on imagine siding with corrupt police, nutter
@@Johnny-rj9on wtf are you on.. Laying blame on the poor guy on his bike..
If that was a police officer in the bike would that woman run him off his bike... Nope
@@daipigeon7561 Hopefully police officers would have more self-preservation than this fool.
The way Cheshire police and iopc handled this case was appalling and makes me think that the old bint was X copper and just goes to show how the police can be corrupt when protecting their own.
She was a police officer tells you a lot. What about the Highway Code 1.5m safe space when overtaking a cyclist. Maybe this doesn’t apply to police officers.
This is what really makes my blood boil. The woman clearly used her 2 tonne car as a weapon and should be charged as such. If she is ex-police she likely worked for Cheshire police and they’re clearly protecting their own. There must be another (national) body which Cheshire police is accountable too. And if I were the cyclist I would likely take it up with my local MP.
Yep, and she knew she'd be protected. Hopefully he'll be able to make a claim in civil court.
Why would she be in cheshire police not merseyside police? and a fiesta isn't 2 tonnes 😂
True, but a fiesta ain't 2 tonnes but still true
One tonnes or two tonnes, it makes no difference to the cyclist she’s just assaulted with her car.
Also it was Cheshire police dealing with the incident and were so quick to defend her. Although she may have been part of any police force in that region.
@@amritbhupal8514 The cyclist also assaulted her car.
Her language and manor indicate she was an ex copper and showed zero compassion to the rider who had invisible injuries. I sure hope the cyclist takes it further with a private prosecution and a real judge will decide in favour of the cyclist.
Finally guys, please invest in cameras, this shows you why it’s worth it. Great review as always
I dunno. She’s nothing like any police officer I’ve ever come across, serving or ex.
never ride un camera'd!!!!!!
Licences should be revoked for this type of stupidity 🙄
Thanks Ashley for the way that you have presented this video.
Regarding the collision, whilst the cyclist could have arguably taken action that might have avoided the collision it doesn't change the fact that car driver knocked the cyclist off his bike. The highway code now lays out a clear duty of care that different road users have owe each other. By taking a primary position on the road, as you say, the cyclist was doing nothing wrong. I'm a cyclist too, and I often feel intimidated by close passes, cyclists have an aversion to them and this case illustrates clearly how close passes can turn into collisions. It hardly delays motor vehicle drivers to wait for a gap before overtaking - that's on a clear road - but this happened in slow moving traffic (thankfully), so the motorist wouldn't have been delayed.
I too can't understand why no action was taken by the Police, the cyclist not just had the incident on camera, but presumably had witnesses too.
Unbelievable woman, how can she think she's in the right?
because she's a woman
@@oddjobtriumph1635 Don't be sexist, men can be every bit as guilty of this
@@oddjobtriumph1635 bit of a dim responce come on up hold your own integrity because she worked for the police and she likly had nothing to do with traffic as she knows very little.
... because she's ex-plod
She has hair like a candy floss and is an ex copper, im sure she has all sorts of dillusions of superiority
I’m seriously concerned that this is the police’s attitude to cyclists!
In many communities yes
Good to see this doing the rounds again one year on.
I think it’s shocking that the Highway Code has had to be amended in order that life threatening drivers AND the police can be made aware of what is clearly dangerous driving.
This should have gone in front of a judge.
Yes, I would like to see this go to trial. It seems like the former police officer has friends in high places to get off with this assault.
100% this should have been dealt with in court with a jury.
Pink hair, says it all. Don't knock people of their bikes, end of.
Judges typically defer to police. They really do look after their own.
Thank you, Ashley. I agree with your analysis of the situation.
I am a solicitor in Scotland. English and Scottish law differs in many ways, but much less so in regards to the application of the Road Traffic Act 1988.
There is also the possibility of an assault at common law.
Had the driver of the Fiesta sought my advice then I would recommend a plea of guilty. The Procurator Fiscal in Scotland would most likely prosecute this as a contravention of section 2 of the Road Traffic Act 1988.
The penalties applying are disqualification from driving, and an order to resit the whole test of competence to drive.
Imprisonment is also a penalty, but I’d be confident that our “former Police Officer” is otherwise of good character?
Clearly she drove him off the road on purpose. She knew exactly what she was doing and is why it was the first thing she said. She knows that really she shouldn't have done it but tries desperately to justify her stupidity by saying that she did it because he wasn't using the bike lane. Only another corrupt cop would come up with any excuse for this vile incident that she caused. Should have her licence removed for at least 10 years. The police's response and subsequent lack of accountability is another clear example of why you can never trust anything the police say or do.
She was at fault! The cycling lane clearly ended and she continued trying to take over the lane even when the cyclist was not in the wrong. I got knocked off my bike over twenty years ago and was left by the driver and had to drag myself and my bike over a mile to work. I had a shoulder injury, muscle damage, and as I didn't know then a disk problem. The police were informed but nothing was done. I have had to stop work and walk on sticks due to a back injury. My job was as a teacher/lecturer which I loved doing every day! Its hard somedays to get out of bed and I am now on high doses of morphine and various other medicines I have to take now for the pain. The driver is probably died now!
Also as he said there's no loegal requirement to use painted bucycle gutters anyway. Which is a good thing because they aren't safe and prone to just suddenly disapear without warning anyway.
Sorry to hear that. Sounds like hell. I used to love cycling but I've been put off by some of the terrible driving I've seen. I reported a close pass with video evidence a couple of years ago but the police must be busy because they haven't got back to me yet.
If you really are a teacher / lecturer then surely you can spell "disc"
Battle to get past to save 5 seconds, then spends 20 minutes arguing the toss!
She wasn't interested in saving time. She wanted to teach the cyclist a lesson for not having used the miniscule "cycle lane" which had already ended by the time she deliberately collided with him and knocked him off his bike. She must have seen him crash to the ground as she shoved past him, was she at all concerned he was hurt once he'd picked himself up and was wheeling his bike across the junction to where he eventually pulled up? No, she wasn't - she approached him , hackles up and going straight onto the offensive, delivering her rant on how he'd brought it on himself. Cheshire Police should be investigated for the absolutely appalling way in which they approached the incident in the first place and for their complete failure to adequately review the case. I'd love to hear what's happened regarding this, after the video was made.
Sorry, this is from South Africa, but as soon as I saw the "Fish" on the back of her car, it was obvious that this "christian" had God on her side as she would never do anything wrong. Please forgive my sarcasm.
That’s shocking. Police are totally corrupt.
They are not man.
@@ThePhoenix109 When the police completely ignore a genuine complaint when it’s against a former police office, what else is it?
Let’s give the benefit of the doubt here and say they didn’t know she was a police officer. Then it’s laziness or incompetence at best.
I think we already knew that there are bent coppers.
The only questions is how many, including the ones who cover up for the bent ones.
@@ThePhoenix109 in this case they are
@@ThePhoenix109 Are you a corrupt copper? You must be, else you are blind or simply didn't watch this video.
It was indeed an assault using a car. I just can't believe it wasn't persecuted.
*prosecuted*
@@musography6958 Thanks! I threw there my spanglish, sorry.
The prime example of a Karen, if she really is an ex police officer, that's concerning
Not for the police it ain’t.
Adam : In fact it could be construed as attempted murder !
Factor in HIS speed and HER speed. It is very clear he was keeping up with the flow of traffic speed. Cycle lane or not. This means SHE will gain NO ground of distance by overtaking. She has not been inconvenienced AT ALL by loss of ground or TIME. The only ground to be gained here is HER own POWER EGO.
The risk to reward is as such, EGO versus LIFE. CAR versus CYCLE. = ?
If she is not ex cop she may be dating/married to a cop and the have closed ranks, perhaps pass the case to local MP to be addressed
MP is a great shout
Why do I get the feeling that she was a desk sergeant or something else non field related and was using it to intimidate?
The MPs and the cops will be in the same freemasonic lodge in some cases.
The guy was going the same speed and keeping up with traffic there was actually no reason to bother him let alone do what she did. Some people just HAVE to cause problems where there are none and ruin people's day.
Looking at the badges on the back of the car, clearly someone who's quite precious about driving.
3:34 _"As soon as I knew you were being difficult and not using the bike lane"_
That makes it premeditated.
She is admitting she already had an aggrievance before anything happened.