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What Life Is Like On An Israeli Kibbutz | Zionism Revisited | Unpacked
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In 1909 when young Jews founded the first Kibbutz, they had no idea that they would be forming a symbol of Israel’s rebirth. These agricultural communities innovated the communal experience as an experiment in Democratic Socialism.
Jews from all over the world came to Israel in an attempt to find their identity and participate in advancing the country agriculturally, industrially and socially.
Over time, as individualism grew, kibbutzim have changed and adapted in order to thrive and yet, the kibbutz movement will forever be known for shaping Israel as it is today.
With all this and more, Netflix star Seni will take you on a journey through the proud tradition of socialist Zionism expressed in one of Israel's most successful social experiments.
Chapters
00:00 Intro
00:35 What is a kibbutz and how did they function?
01:21 Socialist ideology of kibbutzim
01:52 Zionist ideology of kibbutzim
02:12 Short history of the kibbutz movement
03:18 Early laboratories for feminism
03:36 Downsides to intense idealism
04:22 Growth and popularity of the kibbutz movement
04:46 Kibbutz volunteers (including Jerry Seinfeld)
05:39 Decline of the kibbutz movement
06:04 Individualization of Israeli society
06:28 Changes to kibbutz life
06:43 Kibbutz privatized business models
07:25 Agricultural and industrial output
07:41 Israel as a "values nation"
08:35 Outro
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Special Thanks: Kibbutz Sasa, Kibbutz Ma'agan Michael, Kibbutz Neot Semadar, Kvutzat Reut-Beit Yisrael
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I grew up like this on my dad's farm in Tennessee. It's like living Amish...very Spartan, very homely. We raised our own food in a family community. Everyone worked and we shared money and responsibility. My father was our bank and we all loved and respected each other. May God bless Israel and watch over humanity.
You've fallen into their trap. They want you to believe there are only 2 sides and that you must choose to support one. It's all a set up, from all this Jewish propaganda you're suddenly seeing to the fact the spread Muslims across the globe to start a war without borders
Sir do you understand how Spartans were like?
Though not Jewish myself, i as a South African, experienced my time of 12 months on Kibbutz Hulata in 1985 as a wonderful absolute highlight of my life. It remains that until today, 37 years later. I lost my heart 💓 in this wonderful country and nation of Israel, and have visited it at least 20 times since then as a tourist, discovering more and more of its ancient to modern history, and loving the Israeli way and the Hebrew language that binds it's people together
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You go wherever settler colonialism goes don’t you? I can tell you’re a boer from your last name, and you seem to love Israel too.
We love apartheid ❤.
Excellent overview of kibbutz life through the 113 years of its existence. As a 76 year old veteran of two kibbutzim over the last 53 years, and as a former shaliach (envoy) of the Jewish Agency, I can say that you explained it well. Thank you.
I volunteered on two kibbutzim when I was 18, and traveled to Egypt and it was an amazing experience. Highly recommend it to anyone eligible for birthright, or even as a cheap way to do some traveling. It becomes a second family among the volunteers, and it’s truly a wonderful experience. I’m a Christian now, and would love to get back to Jerusalem and see all of the holy sights again.
Sorry for you.
@@Lagolop
I’m blessed in more ways than I can count. Please find someone who needs your sympathy/pity. Thank you 🙏
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If it was so great, why don’t you live there there’s a reason why it’s cheap
@@mld4852
You can’t just stay in a foreign country indefinitely, genius. Why don’t people choose to live in any of the places they travel to? Please utilize some common sense and logic. Have you done any traveling? Where? Did you like it? Why don’t you live there? 😂
“Some call it Communism, I call it Judaism.” - Rabbi Stephen Wise
-Genrikh Yagoda
I lived on Kibbutz Kfar Giladi in 1982 and in 1988. Wonderful experience! I like the Kibbutz lifestyle - I felt I belonged within a strong, closely knit community. If i were young again, I would definitely go back and work and live there longer! I very highly recommend it to anyone looking for adventure and a broader perspective of the world and the people of the world, as volunteers from many countries often congregate on kibbutzim. It was truly fantastic!
Why would you have to be young?
Interesting that all the people mentioned at the beginning are all wealthy celebrities and/or politicians. I’m not sure they still live by the socialist “share the wealth” ideals today.
Bernie Sanders talks a good game, but he’s a wealthy man, living a privileged life.
It seems any group starting out as socialist inevitably leads to a capitalist lifestyle.
It’s human nature to want to keep what you earn, especially if you feel someone else is not putting in the same level of work.
Bernie and Noam are both utter drek.
It's easy to volunteer somewhere temporarily, but living that way permanently is an entirely different matter.
what would be the point of naming the none famous volunteers?
@@Danielst15lm
I think a better endorsement for the socialist-group living format would be for them to name famous residents who _stayed_ in communal living _after_ becoming rich and famous.
Watched this with great interest. Perhaps if more Countries had a similiar thing. Where people work together for the betterment of the land. Living off their land and truly being a close knit community. Then the world in my view would benefit and be a much better place. 💪🏼🙏🏻💪🏼🙏🏻
Yes def the only place on the world so far...
I really wanted to volunteer in a kibbutz while young, I regret not taking the chance and doing it.
Wow, interesting. Me as a Turk, i always dreamed of forming this kind of life style movement in my country.
How can Turks be so pathetic to Europe and Israel just like Indians inferiority complex
And Islamist terrorists are intent on tearing it down.
Very interesting! The narrator is beautiful and speaks in a way that makes it fun to listen and watch. Good job!
I (not a Jew) was a volunteer at Kibbutz Ginosar on the Sea of Galilee in the early 70s. I loved my time there. It was one of the best experiences in my life. Unfortunately, I knew very little about Jewish history. The main thing I knew about Israel, and it was the same for all my friends, was the Six Day War. I worked in the banana groves. Ginosar and the Sea of Galilee were 209 meters under sea level, which is why bananas grew so well there.
I know some history of a kibbutz. So simple, so powerful; when people unite, knowing they can only gain, never loose. Basis of a strong, healthy nation ❤️
I love the ending to this - the kibbutz ideals can still apply over the whole country, even if the original kibbutzim have largely vanished
You forgot Simon leBon of Duran Duran. Volunteered in kibbutz Gvuloth
Thank you for the history lesson. I never knew any of this. You are a good teacher. And you made it interesting
She is lying 🤥
6:43 socialism doesn't mean " no property". You can have a society of equals and at the same time private property of goods that came from your work.
I am from India and here Hindus Muslims Christians and a lot of other religions co exist as one nation for centuries. There are certain problems but we live just fine as people elsewhere in the world. They don't need separate nations for Israel or Palastine. Only One Like Ours......
It's Friday October 20, 2023. I had lived on Kibbutz Givat Brenner as a Ulpan student and worker in 1995. .....Plus I have visited several every time I was in Israel. .... This video is a very good summary about Kibbutz.. I have wanted to start one in the U.S as a Co-op for living in a city and each persons either works in the city or at the Co-op.
Good video , , one of our tutors a long time back in 77 told us that the theoey of kibbutzim were to intoduce a communist ideal by the method of cells that would grow to their own limit wirhin a society whereas the Russian method was to have a huge social upheaval . Looks like it was the Chinese method too.
Over the years I've mentioned on odd occasion that the israeli kibbutzim are examples of successful communism and it's the first time they've heard such a reference always. It was a teacher's college as they were then . I think the subject was social studies cum history.
That endless debating and brainstorming is something which i know exactly what you're saying . Looks like there was plenty of debating and brainstorming for that raid on Entebbe too .
There is a reason why the USSR was, at least during its early existence and before the revisionist era, pro-Israel. Stalin himself made his support for Zionism and a Jewish homeland well-known. The Kibbutz lifestyle is one that champions progress, hard work, and hands-on learning. We should all be striving in one way or another to live like that.
There’s something I admire about the movement - living off the land, hard work and pragmatism. But Kibbutzim aren’t “socialist” they’re flat-out communist! I know a guy who literally wasn’t allowed to own a certain kind of frying pan because not everyone in the kibbutz had one. 🤦♂️ They’re just too communistic!
There is a broad range of kibbutzim and kibbutz movements in Israel. Most are secular, dome very religious. Some are wealthy (their farms and industries became successful), others not so well off. Increasingly there is ownership of private property and personal luxuries, but some have remained true their roots where everything is shared. I lived on two - when I was a young man and up to the challenge.
I heard kibbutz during my time as community organizer in a world bank project in resource management of upland communities. it was in 1993 in the Philippines.
4:06 Choamsky was disgusted by the fact Stalinists were allowed to Kibbutz
I don't blame him. Stalin was an antisemitic idiot.
I've spent time on several kibbutzim and they really had such an idyllic feeling, very peaceful and bucolic.
Sadly, although as mentioned in the video they've learned to adapt, they've become somewhat of a romantic anachronism.
Also, at least in times past or at their height, although they've made up 2-3% of Israel's population, the members are highly respected in Israeli society and they've made up about 25% of the members of the elite military units, officer corps and Knesset members.
I like the premise of the Kibbutz! So sad what happened 7 Oct 2023.
Wow, very very informative!! Thanks for sharing.
Sorry it took me so long to get back with you I have been in the hospital for a little over two months now I’m slowly getting better now but I still watch all your stuff that comes out new thank you so much
Glad to hear you’re on the mend.
Best time in my life I am not Jewish but felt part of the community and part of the country. I’ll always be loyal to 🇮🇱
It's because you're an NPC
I'm not Jewish either, but the idea of a Kibbutz seems like a wonderful idea. It's almost like a fantasy. Everyone working toward one goal. I wish I could experience this life for one year! It seems like a peaceful.and fair way to live. Perhaps I'm wrong, I don't know..the whole idea is enticing to me!
I support Israel and Zionism! Victory for Israel!
Great video, i'd love to visit one some day.
Kibbutz was certainly a romantic, arguably admirable idea. I am not sure if building them on other people's land is.
@@eehkoh7935 who are you to say who's land is who's ?
@@heavenbound1536 who has the right then? The ones with bigger guns, missiles, and planes? Seems like that to me.
@@eehkoh7935 with a short view on history that may seem as so......if you open Torah......or look at ancient history up until today it would make me think otherwise..... Israelites , Hebrew s , to the Jews of today..... were not the ones with the bigger guns etc but always managed to not only survive but thrive amidst their enemies......I would think there is something else happening and going on..... what do you think ?
@@heavenbound1536 Romans, Babylonians, Assyrians were the ones with the bigger guns, weren't they?
Arabs could have made the desert bloom ell, they chose not to.
I'm not necessarily pro or anti Israel, but I remember (IF the video doesn't say so, I probably won't watch) Chomsky had a very negative experience in Israel in the early 50's. Thought the Jews in Israel were very racist.
Yep. I read that too Re Chomsky.
My girlfriend who is Israeli was raised in a kibbutz.
What was her experience growing up there as a child. How did it shape her to whom she is now, if I may know?
I’m Catholic, but I spent one summer on what was then the last Jewish settlement on the Gaza Strip. We had a childrens house. The kids lived separately from their parents.
So did I in 1968.. a wonderful experience
And BTW I can’t listen to this girl because she speaks in vocal fry and croak
I guess that's something similar to the American Peace Corps. Good idea, it should still be running strong in these times.
My grandfathers grandfather was a founding member of degania and it’s 1 of the most beautiful places in Israel
Kibbutz for life❤️
Love this!
The amazing transformation of the land, to me, proves who the real landowners are.
Few of the Palestinians did much with that hidden treasure for the hundreds of yeasts they had control of it.
** haters, do not reply **
this is my opinion
well said.
Your words remind me of King Solomon. Two woman appeared before him, both claiming a baby belonged to them. Alright, he said, we'll cut the baby in two, then you each get a half. The woman who was not the baby's mother agreed. The real mother did not, saying no, give her the baby. King Solomon knew from their responses who the real mother was. Those who know the history of the transformation of the land of Israel know who the real owners are.
Figures that you would support the removal of the Palestinians. Something like that happened before in the 20th century.
That could be an excellent argument to erradicate a whole people, adults and children, at gunpoint from their houses. A great argument it would be, if mass expulsion were legal and moral.
That is flat out false, in fact many of the zionist settlers ate the start of the 20th century were instructed by Palestinian farmers.
Thank you for this video about the kibbutz. Recently young people from Israel came to our church to talk about their lives in the Kibbutz. They all have fond memories and how much they loved their kibbutz. I woke up my curiosity and I found your video which brought so much more interesting information.
Perhaps Chomsky and Sanders should have gone to work in private enterprise .
Thank you for this video. I did not know what they were. When the attack from Hamas happened, the kabbutz gates looked like a gated community for the fancy shmantsy, lol.
I was a hippy in early 70s. Not the sex and drugs type but more the visionary. Simple living type. So many of us would have loved Kibbutz life. It also sounds like the early Christian church. Simple living is good for the soul, in my opinion.
Homestead life is close and that is popular here, but not with community. Community is best part! I believe if we in America want to have a good future we will create real communities to help each other and work together because the structure is going downhill fast.
I hope healing is happening in Israel and rebuilding will be possible with no terrorist predators. Prayers.
Curious.
Why can't you have a private Kibbutz? I.E. you buy in or you can charge a fee. Communal areas are rented. But, if you so choose, you can pay for the space of others. You can certainly be an individualist AND a capitalist and still wish to live in a tight knit community.
Does anybody know the backing song during the "Growth and popularity..." section?
Why is this sponsored ?
The Kibbutz are a fascinating. In the 70s and 80s is was even a place where European leftist with sympathy for the Palestinian cause could stay. Remember we had one tell us about her experiences in one when I was in 7th grade.
I know. Under the Arabs Israel became swampland. Israelites tried to change that by growing trees.
Brilliant!!!
Excellent educational documentary! Sound American but looks Israeli.
Thanks🌠
بنيتم ما بنيتم على جماجم الاطفال والنساء
مجازركم ( دير ياسين ) واخواتها وصمة عار في جبين الانسانية
الغرب الذي زرعكم في أرضنا العربية يعتبركم اداة لتحقيق مصالحه الاستعمارية لا أكثر
والغرب الذي كان يظطهدكم طوال التاريخ
لم يساعدكم حينها الا نحن العرب وادخلناكم بلداننا ومنازلنا وتقاسمنا معكم كل شي
فكان ردكم الجحود للوفاء هل هذا رد المعروف منكم !!
وفي النهاية اقول
قوة الحق اقوى من كل شي وحتماً سيعود صاحب الارض ولو بعد حين
Beautifully said.
We think you've left out a lot of information regarding Israel' pioneering and founding their home.....works for your narrative,,I guess
Idk of Bernie sanders will still do it after what the IDF has done all these years
People are smart and educated these days is not anymore like 50’s then they don’t buy your BS
Winter is coming...
In -1909 the land used to be called Palestine 🇵🇸 😂😂😂 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
And before that israel, and before than canaan 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
@@satrioem6162 keep dreaming no one cares what your Harry Potter Bible said 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
And now it’s called Israel and the scrapyard next door is called palestine
😅😅😅 no such thing as Palestinians
We have similar communities like this where I live. Hutterites, Amish, Brethren, Mennonites, A Jewish Amish group led by a Rabbi who moved here from New York and various communal groups with varying degrees of communal living. The group I belong to are made up mostly of Crypto Swiss Jews, Swiss Mennonites, Socialist Mennonites from Bern area Switzerland or Zimmerwald Switzerland, Greens. My family clan lives in one house to several houses on one estate practicing Judaism at home and Mennonite in public. Currently we have 42 living and combining resources under one household. Here we don't call it socialism we call it religious duty to change or improve the world.
I am with you!
I wish I can join Kibbutz
do you?
You can I think
That Israelis were so lucky to find all that land completely unoccupied to raise their Kibbutz, didn't they?
Why did they need self-defense with assault rifles? Wasn't that an absolutely peaceful land?
Dr. Ruth Westheimer too!
I like the values of Israeli Kibbutz
That's a very beautiful side of the Jews' culture.
It's absolutely horrible that these people were not armed. What is Israel thinking? So sad!
Very interesting.
Bapak Zionis ????!!!
Communism, bolsheviks.
Praying for Israel's safety... 🙏
That’s the best explanation of what a KIBBUTZ is, has been, it’s unparalleled roots and B”H, I’ve learnt MORE in this subject today than ever before 🔵⚪️🔵⚪️🙏🏻
Am Israel Chai 🇮🇱🇺🇸
As a Canadian born from Canadian English British parents I would go to Israel and fight for the right to exist. Just as my grandfathers did
Who do you have to ask permission from to have sex with your wife own something for yourself or does your neighbor come in and have sex with your wife and you get to go over there and own the TV
@The city of the King, Paslms 122:6.
Pray for the peace of Jerusalem, they
will prosper that love you. God bless!!!
Free 🇵🇸
Misusing the term socialism, it is communalism. People are free to belong or not. Socialism is centralized government power and does not co-exist well with democracy.
The Kibbutz is like the American Peace Corps adventure but with a strong cultural element. Way back then it was out of necessity, everyone was very poor and many newly arrived, so it was good to automatically live and work in a group of like-minded people. But this lady is not honest. It didn't fit when Israelis began to prosper. Socialism in all it's forms kills free thought, individuality and initiative, and mediocrity sets in. She seems to be glorifying communism, which is a form of socialism. I'll keep freedom and liberty over socialism, thank you.
This is why the kibbutz is very different today from what it was. It's totally capitalist and individual now. I have relatives in 2 different kibbutz and they are very conservative capitalists.
Does it really have to be so severely binary? You can have aspects of both while maintaining the lifestyle. Obviously they do not want freeloaders who are physically capable but they also do not want workaholics to claim dominance over others opportunity to simply exist.
Kibbutz is like a successful Communism
Yes, somehow they have blended socialism (in a good way) with democracy! There are many many committees on a Kibbutz and everyone has something to say and it is encouraged! They are great places! I wish I could create one here on Ontario, Canada but everyone is "too for themselves". What i mean is people here lice more on an indivudual basis rather than group. However, I strongly believe in free will so I'm don't mean that as a criticism. Only that Kibbutz life is a chosen mindset but it is not for everyone. And that's ok.
It can work i believe but only in smaller communities. Forcing others to go with this plan only crates death and destruction!!!!
Kind of. Picture it without suppression of human opinions or thought. And a high degree of personal autonomy as long as it doesn't impact the kibbutz negatively.
@@virginiagreene3610 well if you are serious, about wishing to join or start one, my wife and i are looking to buy some land, and doing exactly that, near Orlando, fl united states
Its democratic communism
you basically glossed over the Stalin aspect.
That is the key to everything. we still have these sickos in Israel, ruining our beautiful country. I say this as a former Soviet citizen.
When I went, you couldn't get into Nazareth. It was communist. Israel truly is multi party.
Jackanory Jackanory..... what an unbelievably sanitised version of events. And where are the Palestinians in all of this? Sanitised out of your story
I had a meal at a kibbutz. They def try to make money off tourism. Don't get me wrong, I am not putting them down. Whatever you have to do to make a living
**Came to Palestine....Israel wasnt created until 1948**
Isreal has existed since 3000 BC....
Maybe you need to read a bit about history
@@marovahauhulh7054 No it hasnt lol....Show me israel on a map made BEFORE 1948....My Dad is literally older than the nation of israel.
Your dad is not older than the Bible
@@RutherfordBeehayze-kw2mz Palestine isn't a place. The name means nothing.
The Roman Empire wanted to erase from the history the juddea so called the Holy Land Palestine - but they couldn't wipe the people.. so did the Ottoman Empire - by naming the Land Palestine doesn't mean Jews were not there.. they were there way before Christians and Muslims.. so stop calling them occupiers.. Jews were on that land for the last 5000 years..
So, what happens to the sick, elderly, & disabled.
They are being taken care of.
I was wondering about that? Are they housed, fed, helped?
It’s not a luxurious life, but they are well cared for. I remember thinking it was a good life for children, safe and secure for the elderly and disabled. Kibbutzniks and volunteers in their prime work hard to sustain a decent life for all.
Watching this 10/14/2023 they’re at war…so horrifying
Working or kibbutzim and highly democratic social activities and successful communism ON OTHERS' LANDS by force.SHAMe On YOU
But y do u have to steal plalistiniain land, netanyahu allowed this attack to happen to force Palestinians out of Gaza
David Ben gurion was never on a kibbutz he had Jerusalem airport named after him
@ 8:30 who will kibbitz about the kibbutz
Communists beginnings.
Very impressive and interesting ❤❤❤❤
Kinda like a hippy commune.
There is a reason why nobody stayed in Kibbutz their whole life.
Same with standard - school . . . its only interim . . .
People should in this generation demand vital services be extended to NEW LOTS into the desert so people and youth can start out NOT IN LARGE CITIES where it only drives up prices of rents and makes all but rich unable to afford it . There needs to be ways for the young to get a lot build a small place to start out and to have basic services in place without bankrupting them as it is impossible to on their own so kibbutz are not healthiest so the proper counties and districts with NEW LOTS to let all young or old start out tax free for first 5 years when they are trying to build a home nd business then they can pay after that. Would be best if government made it priority to do this soon all cant go to Tel aviv it is not life in over crowded cities where they cant start new businesses.
Feminism must always be explained and turns into a great procession procession
Kibbutz > Homeowner Association
Palestine looks pretty 🇵🇸🇵🇸
i love everything Jewish!
Mennonites, Amish, convents, etc, have the same system.
Excellent documentary
And we saw what socialism gun policies did to innocent civilians that were unarmed.
Socialism had failed everywhere it's tried. This video is proof whether that's what you meant or not.
Hivemind drivel. Define socialism real quick
In the back of the “Jews” mind is that. “We have to secure a land for our own because we don’t want to happen AGain of what happen in Germany? I get it but don’t expect it’ll be peaceful it’s because your powerful(nato)