Indeed I hated Baten K at first but after getting into the story I started to get pulled & then I was hooked on it & the music. Then I was forcing myself to learn the card system which took me a long time but still was not a master on it. Only the basic understanding of the card system I was able to pick up so I could see what lies further with the story of 1 & 2. So this time around I hope to understand it better & hope they put in Qol improvements to make it easier to play & give more time to learn the card system without dying that much lol.
Indeed I hated Baten K at first but after getting into the story I started to get pulled & then I was hooked on it & the music. Then I was forcing myself to learn the card system which took me a long time but still was not a master on it. Only the basic understanding of the card system I was able to pick up so I could see what lies further with the story of 1 & 2. So this time around I hope to understand it better & hope they put in Qol improvements to make it easier to play & give more time to learn the card system without dying that much lol.
Last night I bought Tales of Vesperia: Definitive Edition from the Switch eShop for $6 total. The game was on sale plus I had $5 in gold points saved up which I used towards the purchase of the game. What a deal! Gonna pick up Tales of Symphonia too when there’s a price drop.
This game absolutely should have been $10 for the amount of effort they put in it. It feels like they made it $40 in an attempt to sell on people's nostalgia.
I remember when I first played it and I was like I just got a steal.. that game was easily worth $60 (imo) because of how much time I invested in it. And I got it for 15 at the time I think.
I loved this game as a kid! It was the first Tales of game I had ever played and made me obsessed with the series. I definitely bought this game for the switch and can't wait to replay it
I just made it to the ruins in the desert and holy crap the frames dropped so much when I entered. At times the audio is cut when someone speaks. The line could be "church of Martel" but the cut audio will be heard as "-hurch of Martel" I could've sworn every battle encounter would have the screen shatter effect before the battle starts but you just get a white screen before the battle starts. All this is what I've noticed so far. Remember I just made it to the ruins. I'd say I've played 7% of the game and noticed all these unusual changes
You are sooo right, I just finished the desert ruins and it almost made me stop playing, it’s absolutely horrible, as if you’re playing in slowmotion😢 I really loved ToS back in the gamecube days so I will probably finish this one as an hommage to the original but man, they f*cked up badly on this one🫣
Most of that team was probably more focused on, I don't know, making infinite amounts of Dragon Ball Xenoverse 2 DLC and didn't realize just how much people loved the original game.
Honestly I don't think games are the issue nowadays it's more the players in general being extremely spoiled now. Like, I get pointing certain things out, but it runs fine on xbox. These people just don't know how to game anymore.
@@xcorpsyx92 yeah you right now a days people like to talk bad but play the game, OK this game don't have 60 fps but for me it's not a issue at all and one thing if this would be the GameCube version the skits would not have audio xd I remember playing the GameCube vers and it was mute but this version have the Japanese voices for me it's a good thing xd I have fun playing this again and having fun
If only they fix that one mini game where you have to go up against that Raptor guy. I swear if you don't have an auto fire controller it's near impossible to beat him.
@@Archdornan9001 the test of strength part, where you had to mash the A button to push him off? I remember putting my finger on the A button and just sliding across it repeatedly, which was easier than just tapping it but I agree it should be changed.
I still think Symphonia needs a full-on remake, the GameCube game is just too archaic, it was already kinda unintuitive back in the early 2000s compared to Abyss and Vesperia.
I will be playing it tomorrow. It was in my Top 10 GameCube games for sure. I know this remaster is a letdown, but just to have it on the go, I’m still getting it. I wish it was done better like Metroid Prime but I’ll take what I can get. Maybe they will patch it up.
Get it on a sale or buy it used off ebay if you must absolutely have this game. Buying it new as is just tells them people are ok buying mediocre stuff
I wanted to play this game back in the day, and didn't get the chance. Given I didn't experience the 60 FPS(nor really care about FPS unless it's super noticeable), I think I'll be able to enjoy this on the Switch. Not rushing to pick it up, but I do want to get sometime this year.
YUP! I 100% feel the same way. I’ve loved every tales of game I have played thus far.. but have never played this one specifically. It looks cool to me.
@@Ihatevideogames334 It's okay to have different preferences and opinions when it comes to video games. While some people may enjoy certain games or game developers, others may not. It's important to remember that everyone's tastes are different, and that's perfectly fine.
I just wouldn’t pick it up for the switch period. You can get it on pc , Xbox or ps4/5 now so if you have one of those the game has no performance issues. All the problems he mentioned in this video are switch only problems
I'm having fun with Tales of Symphonia. I'm pretty sure they will have a patch. Every Nintendo Direct after the Switch cycle I kept asking for this game to come on the Switch. Now let's see that we can get Skies of Arcadia.
There won't be any significant patches, this game is based on the PS2 version and the already available pc, PS3 versions. What you see is what you get.
@@pr6046 it's not a good remaster for any platform. It's based on the PS2 PC and PS3 version. Not the GameCube version. Namco bandai lost the source code.
I loved this game back in the day, when we found out it was a 4 player Co-op experience my 3 friends and I played the ever linving daylights out of this game, then Abyss, Vesperia, Grace's, and we ended it on Xillia. It really is a shame what Tales games are becoming. I don't think they will ever go back to the 4Player ever again. Which was why I loved em.
I love Tales of Symphonia but given this remaster's issues maybe I'll stick with my GC copy. Back when I played ToS I nearly didn't finish it due to save file corruption. I have bad luck with GC memory cards. Glad I pulled through and finished ToS. It is a great RPG.
@@mrHowlll yeah I've noticed that on some of my comments on various channels. Either someone said something really nasty so yt yeeted it or it was a bot and got yeeted. Either way Def stick to the GCN version.
This was the first Tales game I ever played and funny thing is; I bought only because a buddy of mine bought it and I thought it looked interesting. Little did I know that it would be the gateway for me into the Tales series. So to see these bad reviews really breaks my heart because I have such a soft spot for this game. Truly a sad day.
Still got the GameCube version. The PS2 versions also came with the gem mechanic fixed. You could just originally get all the moves no matter how you used the gems. It was supposed to be that you can only go down a certain path, and if you want to change the path you unlearned the skills. I am not paying that much for it, when I have the GameCube game and it has no real problems. This version just is not something I am willing to shell out that much for without some proper enticements. Metroid prime 1 makes me want to part with my money.
It's pretty sad that I can boot up ToS via Dolphin on my Steam Deck at widescreen 800p60fps and get a better experience than a "modern HD port" that Namco expects people to pay full price for. For comparison, even if I did the same with Metroid Prime, I'd still choose the remastered version on switch for the graphical upgrades, qol features, and a greater ease of use getting motion controls to work. THAT'S what people want out of a modern port
I remember enjoying Tales of Symphonia on the gamecube, even though I've only played it to completion once. I actually still have a physical copy of it. I'm a bit disappointed that they couldn't figure out a way to make the ps2 version 60fps like the original. Kind of sad, but I'll probably just stick to the gamecube version. But like you said if it's cheap I might pick it up down the line.
Tales of Vesperia runs at 60 FPS on Nintendo Switch. This is very strange that an older game would not achieve similar performance however 30 FPS is not the end of the world. But having an inconsistent frame rate, that sucks.
Idk if its true but apparently some devs would delete the source code after developing the game. I doubt the source code was lost for the game. I would've just preferred a port of the chronicles collection rather than a remastered version.
The other thing to note is that this is Bandai's second attempt at remastering Symphonia. It was brought to the PS3 in 720p resolution. Not sure how the switch stacks up to PS3 specs, but that version also came bundled with the sequel.
Perfect timing! I loved Tales of Vesperia DE on the Switch. Was looking forward to Symphonia, but won't pay more than 15-20 Euro physical if they keep combat at 30 fps.
I love this game! It's the first Tales game I ever played. I was deployed to Germany when I first played this game. I also have the PS3 remaster version of the game too!
This is a shame. Last year I dug the wii out of my cupboard, bought a copy of symphonia on gamecube for £20 and had an absolute blast with it! Given the prices of a wii these days it'd genuinely be cheaper to get the console and a gamecube copy rather than this switch 'remaster'!
I probably was 12 when this came out and i always wished for an rpg like pokemon but with combat like a fighting game. So when this came out i needed it asap. And the story was more mature then anything i played before this.
Played this through on GCN loved it my real first action based RPG, so much fun!! Sad to hear the remaster is not the greatest but anyone on the fence just do it the game is worth your time. Also, the disk for GCN is extremely expensive.
Looks good but not paying that amount for it right now...I'd imagine with the backlash it's getting it will go on sale sooner rather than later. That's what they do and I will just wait....plus Octopath Traveler 2 is almost here. I'll buy that instead right now.
If they increase the difficulty to make it where using all the cool combat abilities doesn't just make you OP this would be a great game. I almost quit playing because of that around when you get to a new area I think right before Colete (that was her name right) gets her wings.
Man, I remember renting this game like 5 times from Blockbuster as a kid because I enjoyed it so much. My parents got me Dawn of the New World for the Wii a few years later, but I still never had the original. About 4 years ago, I found a complete in-box copy at a used game store for 20 bucks and instantly picked it up. Never got around to replaying it, so when I heard about the remaster, I was beyond excited. Bought it because I figured it had the potential to be a limited run game. Was going to play it after finishing Hogwarts Legacy, and then Prime remastered, but now...idk... I might just dust off my old Gamecube and replay what is to this day one of the games I'm most fond of.
TBH you may as well play both versions, if you can stomach it. The GameCube version is superior in many ways, but this Switch/Playstation version does have a lot of extra costumes, skits, attacks for the characters, enemies, etc. only in that version. There's also a terrible glitch in the Switch version where some of the English dialog is cut out! So yeah, I'd recommend playing GameCube more, but the Switch version has exclusive content too.
@Aninymouse interesting, it's on my backlog still, so it's gonna be a little while before I can get to it. Hopefully by then they implement some patches!
It's good to hear where they ported the game from, I heard someone get it wrong and say they ported the Steam version. I beat the game about 11 times and I really wish the developers put some effort into the remaster, it's painful to see it at 30 FPS and the fact that they seemingly slowed down the Toize Valley mine which was already tedious.
These issues are only on switch. This is the problem with you Nintendo Fanboys ,if you really cared about the game why not play it on LITERALLY EVERY OTHER CONSOLE smh
That game was great. Just Bandai Namco want the money without the work! Great theme song and ending is interesting. I played it on the GameCube. Rented it at your local Movie Gallery which is dead now.
I mean I personally wouldn't care if they just straight up ported the PS3/PC/GC version without making any changes (sides upscaling if they did the GC version as PS3/PC already got that done more or less) as that would help further with game preservation/bringing it to new audiences (like the many people that don't play PC/don't have a PS3/GC) however it should've been priced appropriately for a 20 year old game that already got a remaster when this remaster added almost nothing...it should've been $20 or a bit less and absolutely no more than $25. The ONLY justification for this $40 or even up to a $60 price point would've been if they added Dawn AND Phantasia Nakiri Dungeon X (best version of Phantasia on PSP with a lot of new content and of course localized it and KEPT all the skits this time (GBA, only official version of Phantasia, removed all optional skits from the game to make it wasier to translate)) so that we'd have all the games that occur in the Aselia world. Sides that the ONLY other way to justify a higher/standard price would've been if they went with a full on remake of the game (granted has it's own issues such as that would likely mean content would be removed such as some optional locations, enemies that don't have a model in any recent game, some minor side quests/storyline, etc and more likely than not they'd need to replace all the VAs due to either them being too high budget now that Namco won't want to use them OR they have either retired/passed away in the years since Symphonia first came out...and personally I never liked anyone's performance that voiced Lloyd after Scott Menville and I cannot see anyone but Cam Clarke playing Kratos tbh)...it also probably wouldn't take them a few more years to do something like this so they probably should've aimed for the 25th anniversary in 2028 to celebrate Symphonia again with such a remake (other main reason they likely chose Symphonia this year was cause it's the 20th anniversary for the game and Japanese fans/devs love to do stuff for 10 year anniversaries for whatever reason...while we do anniversaries too in the west it's generally the first 10 year and then the 25th and every 25th year after that we celebrate (i've never really seen anyone celebrate the 20th, 30th, 40th, 60th, 70th, 80th, 90th, etc for anything in the US in grand fashion...at best maybe birthdays (granted that's a yearly thing) but other occasions not really at all sides the first 10th/25th/every 25 years after the first 25th). The game's my favorite game of all time and I want to play it handheld however I'm gonna be waiting for a price drop to 20 or less before I pick it up (have too many other new games I also want to buy and not enough cash as I used to either).
I wonder if the rumors I've heard of them losing the GC source code are true. That would explain A LOT. But then at that point I almost wonder why you wouldn't just wrap an emulator shell around a modified rom of the GC version and ship that instead. Sure it's not technically "running native" but if the product is higher quality at this point who cares? It's clear the PS2 version of the game isn't up to snuff
That 30fps is a big no for me I mean if the frame rate is still the same I can just play chronicles on PS3 with both games included...No way am I playing 30fps on a PS5.
I dont "hate" it and it looks BEAUTIFUL and i never had 60FPS so I dont miss anything here... but it DESPERATELY NEEDS TO PATCH: - drastic FPS drops in Desert sand or heat/magma or other effects. - absurd loading times - annoying white screen when battle starts Definetly inacceptable basics. But its in my eyes patchable and I hope they will solve it. In days where patch were not possible this would have never passed QA. Now with "patching" we can simply drop QA and just release and post patch in some months but first make the customer angry.
I took a chance and bought Tales Of Symphonia for GameCube and after putting maybe 15 or so hours in I just quit. Same thing with Chrono Trigger or many of the Mana games I just get bored and loose interest mindlessly hitting attack. It's weird too because I love Zelda but there's puzzles and things to break up the monotony or keep you engaged while many others do not.
I know its more work, but if they lost the code then I wish they should've just did what square did with Kingsom hearts and FF8. Just build it from the ground up again.
I only bought this game because Metroid Prime Remastered sold out everywhere but on Amazon where it was $89.99-$99.99. To be fair, every store in my city only had one copy of this game left in stock so it's selling out nearly as fast as Metroid Prime Remastered is.
I bought it on PS4 and I play it on my PS5 it runs very well and looks beautiful to me with fast loading times. I love this game and have it on GC and PS3 as well. It's my second favorite RPG of all time and I actually enjoy the remaster. The battle and everything looks fine to me, I'm not someone who cares a bunch about fps unless it looks like a PowerPoint presentation. I haven't reached Triet yet, so let's hope that the PS4 version is better in this regard also.
I’ve had this game for a while. Got it for like $2 at a yard sale years ago and never got around to playing it. So I might still get this Switch version at some point. Still… some of these remasters are sus….
I love this game and sucks about switch version and that they didn’t do gamecube version AND they didn’t include sequel like ps3 collection. I own it on gamecube, ps3, and now Xbox one haha. There are some Tales games that never came to the west and one on the vita not many have played so hope those get remasters soon too. Also Skies of Arcadia is due next for a remaster! Pleaseee and put in love next time and make it actually bettwr
Reason why Bandai Namco used the PS3 version for the remastered port was cause they lost the source code for the GameCube version thus why they couldn't use the GameCube version for any future remastered. It's the same reason why we never seen a Panzer Dragoon Saga remastered. If Bandai Namco wants a Tales of Symphonia in 60fps they either had to remake the game from the ground up or find those lost source codes. Same thing for Sega as well, if they want Panzer Dragoon Saga, the game either had to be remake from the ground up or Sega had to start spying on their employees to see if anyone steal the source codes or not. Also the reason the PS2 version is running the game at 30fps instead of 60fps was cause the PS2 clock speed is much lower than the GameCube. PS2 clock at 147 Mhz while GameCube clock at 162 Mhz so TOS had to cut back most of the framerates in able to keep the full game intact while adding a few minor contents.
as someone who played the GameCube version to completion when I was younger and is now playing through the remaster i never noticed any difference in framerate or performance
Great vid RGT 85. Yh it's unforgivable that the Switch Version is the Worst Version aaround and not Remastering the GC Version of Symphonia was a big mistake aswell.
It's because back then most games ran at 60 frames per 2nd In a way to me it just felt like analog and digital T v's were forcing the 60 frames on you instead of allowing companies to choose but because we have HD technology On a game like tales of Symphonia 60 frames really doesn't a fancy enough game to make 60 frames really worth it For instance Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles 2 The arcade game on an NES The rock steady battle at the beginning of the game felt like 30 frames But when you play the actual arcade machine version of it like I'm actual machine or the one in the kalamanga collection you can see there's a difference in roxpetty speed between the arcade version indicating the home version felt like 30 frames while the arcade version actually did feel like 60 because of the pace and speed rock steady was moving it when you fought him as a boss At the very beginning of the game of the original arcade game and turtles 2 He felt slower like a 30 frame character on the original nintendo but on the arcade version he felt like he was actually running at 60 Because he was fighting and hitting and moving faster on the arcade version Well in turtles 2 Rock steady feels slow and sluggish And the 60 frames are probably only used back then to make games play and look nicer but now that we have HD technology companies can choose to make a game run at 60 or 30 depending on how much real time is in a game since tales of symphonia doesn't have much real time in it the company thought 60 frames was not necessary and went with the 30 And plus the remastered version is the steam version Where you can choose between 2 intro musics in Japanese The Japanese game cube Intro Japanese singer version of the song and then you also have the PS2 version of the song Which personally I think the PS2 version of the song is better cause it seems more suited to the remastered version of the game Whether a game is 60 frames or 30 frames does not matter As long as you play and enjoy the game that's all that matters That's why the company keeps using 30 frames Cause you fans complain too much they're teaching you a lesson stop complaini mean and play the game for what it is an a games are meant for entertainment you play a game for a game that it's frame rate good grief as long as 30 or 60 frames mix the game plable which frame rate they use doesn't matter Cause I play games at both frame rates 30 and 60 and I'm fine with either one as long as I can play and enjoy the game and have good HD resolution quality I am perfectly happy Because the Tennessee P resolution and the improved visual ness of the game is more than enough to make up for the lack of the 60 frames and being only 30 You people play breath of the wild and it's 30 frames and you're not complaining about that and that game is actually an excellent Japanese anime artwork And yet look it The original Hyrule warriors On the switch runs at 1080P and 60 frames Well age of calamity It's only 720 and 30 frames per 2nd Making you wonder why is the newer Hyrule Warriors age of calamity Have weaker resolution and weaker frame rate when it's the new route game and the older game has better resolution and better frame rate If you want to talk about an nintendo game that's been remastered correctly from gamecube look at twilight princess HD That's remastered the right way it may have the stamps in it for the mevers but technically it's mastered the correct way But you don't work for the company so you have no idea the reason why they chose this version of symphonia as a remastered So you really shouldn't criticize the company it might have been the only choice they had cause remember certain data could be corrupted of previous versions or source codes can be lost and they only used what they had that was the only option at the time If you worked at a video game company and own the company even you would realize sometimes situations like that require sacrifices in order to make fans happy sacrifices have to be made because of what's available to you cause there's a passage of time where certain data of games cannot be put on modern day technology or a certain data can be corrupted because of the passage of time or certain source codes could be lost Or certain games cannot be salvaged and they have to use a different version that actually woodwork so sacrifices have to be made so you fans need to realize that you fans do not have any idea of what decisions companies have to make in order to give you your favorite games back so you should appreciate what they can give you Instead of complaining about it Cause usually there is a perfectly good logical reason why they picked this symphonia has a remustard it was probably the only choice they had that would allow us to play it again so stop complaining It might have been the only choice the company had that would have a workable version on the systems they were bringing it to where would actually work on those systems because of what actually support the technology it was probably the only choice they had you shouldn't really complain you fans complained too much when you have no idea what goes on in a video game company Sometimes people like you make me sick Cause you just don't get it Sometimes companies have to make sacrifices I've seen a lot of TH-cam videos where people explain sometimes when somebody remasters something sometimes they had to remaster a Pacific version of music or movie or a game cause sometimes sacrifices have to be made because it is the only version available to them that would actually work on the modern day technologies they're gonna put it on so you should be happy you can play it at all So stop being a little B Cause you have no idea what goes on in the company why they make the choices they do sometimes sacrifices have to be made in order to give fans what they want It may not be the ideal version but as long as it is the game you like that's all that matters even if it's not the same version as long as the game still gives you that same nostalgic feeling that's all it really matters It's like you play a game for a frame rate and not cause you actually like the game that's pathetic
People that I've heard hating on this is because it is the same port we got on ps3 with nothing new added from what I've heard and as such it is only 30 fps. Pair that with the fact the ps3 version came with Symphonia and it's sequel and this version is just the original Symphonia game without it's sequel.
Last time i played the game was the pc release in 2016 i was disapointed it ran at 30fps but i still played tru it i just downloaded a 60fps patch mod and it runs great its so weird bandai namco couldnt remaster the game to run at 60 fps especially since the HD version was released in 2014 PC 2016.
@@Ihatevideogames334 I'm sorry to hear that you don't enjoy the Tales of Symphonia game or the Tales series in general. It's understandable that not everyone likes the same type of game or game genre. Action RPGs and Role Playing Games can have a lot of complex mechanics and storylines that may not appeal to everyone. Regarding your dislike of Japanese Role Playing Games, it's worth noting that the gaming industry in Japan has a rich history of producing games with unique and innovative storytelling, gameplay mechanics, and character designs that have gained a loyal following around the world. That being said, everyone has different preferences, and it's okay to not enjoy a particular type of game or game developer. Lastly, Namco has been responsible for creating some of the most iconic and beloved games of all time, such as Pac-Man, Tekken, and Soul Calibur. However, not every game from a particular company will appeal to everyone, and that's perfectly fine. Ultimately, it's up to each individual to decide which games they enjoy playing.
Tales of symphonia remastered is the steam version What you get remember originally games are made in a computer in the 1st place when they're developed then they're reconfigured and retreat to run on whatever system they put on so they can understand the system and it's controller To realize you're not running off as device with a keyboard To play a game realizing you're actually on a home so they make minor tweaks And people shouldn't complain About If symphonia remastered
3 years ago I bought it on Steam and it was really buggy. After 2hrs I walked away. Then I hear it was getting remastered for the Switch and I was hyped, until this video. Almost pre-ordered it too. Glad I didn't.
In regards to the "Will they ever patch it?" debate, I just noticed they're finally getting around to patching last year's "Chrono Cross" remaster, so....maybe the "Tales of Symphonia" remaster will be playable a year from now?
They must've lost the original GameCube source at some point. Is the only reason that everything has been done from the PS2 version since then. Especially in Japan, they did NOT preserve their old stuff very well. I mean, I get it, they probably didn't think it would ever come up again... But now 20 years later, it's really hurting them.
Well, i don't get it either. Its an Amazing game. I didn't play ToS when it came out. I've got it cib for the GC just for the collection. In 2014 i got ToS Chronicles for the PS3 which includes ToS & ToS Dawn of the New World. I still play it in the PS3 (currently on a new PT) and i will get the PS4 version too. I'ts easily my fav title from the Tales Of series so far. Even considering that Tales of Xillia, Tales of Graces, and Tales of Destiny are some of my all time Tales of games. The game is worth every cent, and its awesome that its now available on newer platforms.
Honestly I don't think games are the issue nowadays it's more the players in general being extremely spoiled now. Like, I get pointing certain things out, but it runs fine on xbox. These people just don't know how to game anymore.
I spent years trying to find the game I forgot the name of it , I found it again purchased for ps4 and I’m was so excited to play again . I do wish they added more stuff
This is such a shame to hear, I was honestly hoping to have the Remastered version on my Switch to play someday but it seems that I should just play the GameCube version if I ever want to replay it.
Anybody feels the same about Nier Automata on switch? I played the demo on ps4 then bought it on switch, because everyone was saying its one of the best ports, and immediately thought, no no no no and stop playing because now I'm gonna have to get it on ps4 to have a far better experience. The best port to me is Bioshock trilogy. That thing is freaking flawless on switch and interestingly runs at 30fps but i dont even notice. It's butterly smooth.
If people can, I'd highly suggest tracking down and picking up the first HD Remaster, *Tales of Symphonia Chronicles* for PS3 instead. It also has the sequel, *Dawn of the New World* added.
I wanted to buy this game since I enjoyed tales of vesperia on my switch. It’s so sad to see that this game has performance issues. I heard very good things about this game and it’s just disheartening to see that they didn’t optimize this game well for the Nintendo switch. I’ll consider buying it once the game is on sale and if they fix all the bugs in the game.
I think they hate the remaster for having a lower framerate. The Switch version is apparently the worst port. 1:07 I want that to get remade. I played Tales of Symphonia on the Game Cube. I think Bandai Namco lost the source code for the original. The PS2 version does have better looking visuals. 3:21 Did he steal it? 5:20 I do not remember Colette wearing that. 30 FPS is far from unplayable. It will do. 7:36 PeePeePee! I like the fact that Lloyd sounds like Robin from Teen Titans. I have the PC version of this game. You might need to make a few adjustments to actually play the game though since there are issues with the steam version and it may not start up. I can mod it to be 4K which isn't entirely necessary but there doesn't seem to be a patch for frame rate. Is it too difficult to fix? Despite the issues it was better than the Switch Version.
Yup, they lost the source code for the GC version so they’ve been using the PS2 version. And the costumes that the party is wearing @5:20 are cameo outfits put in the game through Symphonia Chronicles: Guy from Abyss for Lloyd, Rita from Vesperia for Colette, Luke from Abyss for Genis, and Ludger from Xillia 2 for Kratos in that clip.
Skies of Arcadia and tales of symphonia, the one two punch of awesome. I best both games but seeing the latter remastered makes me happy. No one shoukd hate on this AT ALL.
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My heart is broken. Shoutout to Rob.
Indeed I hated Baten K at first but after getting into the story I started to get pulled & then I was hooked on it & the music. Then I was forcing myself to learn the card system which took me a long time but still was not a master on it.
Only the basic understanding of the card system I was able to pick up so I could see what lies further with the story of 1 & 2. So this time around I hope to understand it better & hope they put in Qol improvements to make it easier to play & give more time to learn the card system without dying that much lol.
Indeed I hated Baten K at first but after getting into the story I started to get pulled & then I was hooked on it & the music. Then I was forcing myself to learn the card system which took me a long time but still was not a master on it.
Only the basic understanding of the card system I was able to pick up so I could see what lies further with the story of 1 & 2. So this time around I hope to understand it better & hope they put in Qol improvements to make it easier to play & give more time to learn the card system without dying that much lol.
A PC with Intel graphics could run this at 60 frames per second…
On ps4/5 xbox consoles all run at a locked 30FPS, stop playing third party games on the switch.
But it is namco bandai's fault that they lost the source code to the GameCube version.
Last night I bought Tales of Vesperia: Definitive Edition from the Switch eShop for $6 total. The game was on sale plus I had $5 in gold points saved up which I used towards the purchase of the game. What a deal! Gonna pick up Tales of Symphonia too when there’s a price drop.
Tales of Vesperia is steady the best value in recent RPG memory.
This game absolutely should have been $10 for the amount of effort they put in it.
It feels like they made it $40 in an attempt to sell on people's nostalgia.
I remember when I first played it and I was like I just got a steal.. that game was easily worth $60 (imo) because of how much time I invested in it. And I got it for 15 at the time I think.
That is a great game.
@@Ihatevideogames334 good thing you shared that you tool.
played this over and over on many consoles....a good winter play, with a hot coffee and after a heartbreak haha....nostalgia at its best
I agree 100% that back in my “youth” youth…Tales of Symphonia shined through its combat system. It was my favorite rpg of GC.
@@Ihatevideogames334 stop spamming
@@Ihatevideogames334 you alos hate your life
I loved this game as a kid! It was the first Tales of game I had ever played and made me obsessed with the series. I definitely bought this game for the switch and can't wait to replay it
@@Ihatevideogames334 Good for you
Me too 🥲
PS 3 and Gamecube are better see the videos and youll see why
This game is way too underrated. It has a beautiful story telling that’s filled with emotions
At 20 fps I'll pass
You mean overrated
@@standingintherain6519 it was 60 FPS on the GameCube, not like it matters since they’ll never touch it again...:(
@@thatanonwholurksmoar7386 as a Tales game? Probably. As a game in general? This is like “hidden behind the back alley” underrated
@@thatanonwholurksmoar7386 Let me guess. A Vesperia stan?
I just made it to the ruins in the desert and holy crap the frames dropped so much when I entered. At times the audio is cut when someone speaks. The line could be "church of Martel" but the cut audio will be heard as "-hurch of Martel"
I could've sworn every battle encounter would have the screen shatter effect before the battle starts but you just get a white screen before the battle starts.
All this is what I've noticed so far. Remember I just made it to the ruins. I'd say I've played 7% of the game and noticed all these unusual changes
Geez instead of remastered they should have called it re butchered!
The PS4 version has the shattering effect, I don't know why they screwed up the Switch version that much.
@@nworder4life it seriously made me stop playing it. I should've went for literally any other console
@@Yukielia I’m guying it for ps4 thanks for confirming
You are sooo right, I just finished the desert ruins and it almost made me stop playing, it’s absolutely horrible, as if you’re playing in slowmotion😢 I really loved ToS back in the gamecube days so I will probably finish this one as an hommage to the original but man, they f*cked up badly on this one🫣
That's such a letdown, this is such an amazing game from the GC Era. It's disappointing to see it not get more love from the team that remade it.
Most of that team was probably more focused on, I don't know, making infinite amounts of Dragon Ball Xenoverse 2 DLC and didn't realize just how much people loved the original game.
I never owned a GC so this is ALL I have to base it off
Honestly I don't think games are the issue nowadays it's more the players in general being extremely spoiled now. Like, I get pointing certain things out, but it runs fine on xbox. These people just don't know how to game anymore.
@@xcorpsyx92 yeah you right now a days people like to talk bad but play the game, OK this game don't have 60 fps but for me it's not a issue at all and one thing if this would be the GameCube version the skits would not have audio xd I remember playing the GameCube vers and it was mute but this version have the Japanese voices for me it's a good thing xd I have fun playing this again and having fun
Starfox adventures would be a great remaster
If only they fix that one mini game where you have to go up against that Raptor guy. I swear if you don't have an auto fire controller it's near impossible to beat him.
@@Archdornan9001 the test of strength part, where you had to mash the A button to push him off? I remember putting my finger on the A button and just sliding across it repeatedly, which was easier than just tapping it but I agree it should be changed.
One of my favs from GC
Nah star fox assault would be better
Visually maybe, gameplay they would have to change a bunch of random things in it. I'd honestly rather we get the N64 prototype brought back instead
The patches fixed almost everything wrong with the game. Give it another try.
I still think Symphonia needs a full-on remake, the GameCube game is just too archaic, it was already kinda unintuitive back in the early 2000s compared to Abyss and Vesperia.
Doesn't fix 30fps. Literally a deal breaker
@@montgomeryfitzpatrick473 The Gamecube version is the only one that runs at 60 FPS
Needs 60fps.
@@montgomeryfitzpatrick473 nah
I will be playing it tomorrow. It was in my Top 10 GameCube games for sure. I know this remaster is a letdown, but just to have it on the go, I’m still getting it. I wish it was done better like Metroid Prime but I’ll take what I can get. Maybe they will patch it up.
Get it on a sale or buy it used off ebay if you must absolutely have this game. Buying it new as is just tells them people are ok buying mediocre stuff
Spoken like a true SIMP SHILL
I wanted to play this game back in the day, and didn't get the chance. Given I didn't experience the 60 FPS(nor really care about FPS unless it's super noticeable), I think I'll be able to enjoy this on the Switch. Not rushing to pick it up, but I do want to get sometime this year.
60fps is very noticeable when looking at fast paced gameplay
YUP! I 100% feel the same way. I’ve loved every tales of game I have played thus far.. but have never played this one specifically. It looks cool to me.
@@Ihatevideogames334 It's okay to have different preferences and opinions when it comes to video games. While some people may enjoy certain games or game developers, others may not. It's important to remember that everyone's tastes are different, and that's perfectly fine.
I just wouldn’t pick it up for the switch period. You can get it on pc , Xbox or ps4/5 now so if you have one of those the game has no performance issues. All the problems he mentioned in this video are switch only problems
@@DingoOnMy40 nah the dude is just a troll with bad taste lol
I'm having fun with Tales of Symphonia. I'm pretty sure they will have a patch. Every Nintendo Direct after the Switch cycle I kept asking for this game to come on the Switch. Now let's see that we can get Skies of Arcadia.
There won't be any significant patches, this game is based on the PS2 version and the already available pc, PS3 versions. What you see is what you get.
Meanwhile the other consoles have no issues. Man you Nintendo fans are such tools
@@pr6046 it's not a good remaster for any platform. It's based on the PS2 PC and PS3 version. Not the GameCube version. Namco bandai lost the source code.
@@MrDarkAvitar it only runs like garbage on the switch
@@pr6046 and? That still matters
I loved this game back in the day, when we found out it was a 4 player Co-op experience my 3 friends and I played the ever linving daylights out of this game, then Abyss, Vesperia, Grace's, and we ended it on Xillia. It really is a shame what Tales games are becoming. I don't think they will ever go back to the 4Player ever again. Which was why I loved em.
I've heard Beseria and Arise were good.
@@akl2k7 unfortunately they aren't multiplayer 😕. I've heard that they are alright as well. But still wish they were multiplayer.
@@akl2k7 I actually hated Arise.
I think berseria still have co-op multiplayer.
@@sanic007same here it was bad
I love Tales of Symphonia but given this remaster's issues maybe I'll stick with my GC copy.
Back when I played ToS I nearly didn't finish it due to save file corruption. I have bad luck with GC memory cards. Glad I pulled through and finished ToS. It is a great RPG.
Switch is pathetically weak.
Weird. It says I have 2 replies but I can't see them. Oh well.
@@mrHowlll yeah I've noticed that on some of my comments on various channels. Either someone said something really nasty so yt yeeted it or it was a bot and got yeeted. Either way Def stick to the GCN version.
Its really bad
This was the first Tales game I ever played and funny thing is; I bought only because a buddy of mine bought it and I thought it looked interesting. Little did I know that it would be the gateway for me into the Tales series. So to see these bad reviews really breaks my heart because I have such a soft spot for this game. Truly a sad day.
I ended up cancelling my preorder. If they lower the price or patch it good I may still pick it up now. I loved this game on the Gamecube.
Still got the GameCube version. The PS2 versions also came with the gem mechanic fixed. You could just originally get all the moves no matter how you used the gems. It was supposed to be that you can only go down a certain path, and if you want to change the path you unlearned the skills.
I am not paying that much for it, when I have the GameCube game and it has no real problems.
This version just is not something I am willing to shell out that much for without some proper enticements.
Metroid prime 1 makes me want to part with my money.
It's pretty sad that I can boot up ToS via Dolphin on my Steam Deck at widescreen 800p60fps and get a better experience than a "modern HD port" that Namco expects people to pay full price for.
For comparison, even if I did the same with Metroid Prime, I'd still choose the remastered version on switch for the graphical upgrades, qol features, and a greater ease of use getting motion controls to work. THAT'S what people want out of a modern port
Spot on, just said similar and I also am picking up physical Metroid at launch.
I remember enjoying Tales of Symphonia on the gamecube, even though I've only played it to completion once. I actually still have a physical copy of it. I'm a bit disappointed that they couldn't figure out a way to make the ps2 version 60fps like the original. Kind of sad, but I'll probably just stick to the gamecube version. But like you said if it's cheap I might pick it up down the line.
Okay I know this sounds crazy... but I've been loving this. I didn't go in expecting anything, and it's been a blast
Tales of Vesperia runs at 60 FPS on Nintendo Switch. This is very strange that an older game would not achieve similar performance however 30 FPS is not the end of the world. But having an inconsistent frame rate, that sucks.
Don't forget, this game along with Symphonia 2: Dawn of New Age also came out on PS3 as Tales of Symphonia Chronicles!
Yup, so them rereleasing Symphonia alone for the same price (if not more) as they did Symphonia Chronicles is infuriating
The updates made this nearer to the GameCube ver.
Apparently the source code was lost for the original GCN version, so likely no 60fps ever incoming...
The other issues are just depressing.
This happens all too often I feel. How do you lose a damn game. Lol
Idk if its true but apparently some devs would delete the source code after developing the game. I doubt the source code was lost for the game. I would've just preferred a port of the chronicles collection rather than a remastered version.
The other thing to note is that this is Bandai's second attempt at remastering Symphonia. It was brought to the PS3 in 720p resolution. Not sure how the switch stacks up to PS3 specs, but that version also came bundled with the sequel.
I would've preferred a port of that instead of another remaster
Perfect timing! I loved Tales of Vesperia DE on the Switch. Was looking forward to Symphonia, but won't pay more than 15-20 Euro physical if they keep combat at 30 fps.
I Pick it up day one and been playing it and enjoy it!
I have it on PS2, PS3, Gamecube, PC and now on Switch!
I’m expecting mine to come in today. I saw someone’s play through and was shocked on how bad it was.
I love this game! It's the first Tales game I ever played. I was deployed to Germany when I first played this game. I also have the PS3 remaster version of the game too!
I had bought myself a DS when I was deployed....when they first came out lol. That was 20 years ago. Holy sh*t.
I have the GameCube and ps3 versions of this as well. So yes ill be getting it on ps4 though not switch.
@@veevendetta3448 20 years ago? How? The DS came out in 2004.
This is a shame. Last year I dug the wii out of my cupboard, bought a copy of symphonia on gamecube for £20 and had an absolute blast with it! Given the prices of a wii these days it'd genuinely be cheaper to get the console and a gamecube copy rather than this switch 'remaster'!
I probably was 12 when this came out and i always wished for an rpg like pokemon but with combat like a fighting game.
So when this came out i needed it asap.
And the story was more mature then anything i played before this.
okay RGT you keep saying you're not a nintendo youtuber, but the cold truth is that we are all here for your nintendo content.
Played this through on GCN loved it my real first action based RPG, so much fun!! Sad to hear the remaster is not the greatest but anyone on the fence just do it the game is worth your time. Also, the disk for GCN is extremely expensive.
Looks good but not paying that amount for it right now...I'd imagine with the backlash it's getting it will go on sale sooner rather than later. That's what they do and I will just wait....plus Octopath Traveler 2 is almost here. I'll buy that instead right now.
If they increase the difficulty to make it where using all the cool combat abilities doesn't just make you OP this would be a great game. I almost quit playing because of that around when you get to a new area I think right before Colete (that was her name right) gets her wings.
Such a shame. I canceled my preorder of this because I had too many things preordered all coming out at the same time kind of glad I did now
Man, I remember renting this game like 5 times from Blockbuster as a kid because I enjoyed it so much. My parents got me Dawn of the New World for the Wii a few years later, but I still never had the original. About 4 years ago, I found a complete in-box copy at a used game store for 20 bucks and instantly picked it up. Never got around to replaying it, so when I heard about the remaster, I was beyond excited. Bought it because I figured it had the potential to be a limited run game. Was going to play it after finishing Hogwarts Legacy, and then Prime remastered, but now...idk... I might just dust off my old Gamecube and replay what is to this day one of the games I'm most fond of.
TBH you may as well play both versions, if you can stomach it. The GameCube version is superior in many ways, but this Switch/Playstation version does have a lot of extra costumes, skits, attacks for the characters, enemies, etc. only in that version.
There's also a terrible glitch in the Switch version where some of the English dialog is cut out! So yeah, I'd recommend playing GameCube more, but the Switch version has exclusive content too.
@Aninymouse interesting, it's on my backlog still, so it's gonna be a little while before I can get to it. Hopefully by then they implement some patches!
It's good to hear where they ported the game from, I heard someone get it wrong and say they ported the Steam version. I beat the game about 11 times and I really wish the developers put some effort into the remaster, it's painful to see it at 30 FPS and the fact that they seemingly slowed down the Toize Valley mine which was already tedious.
Sad that the performance issues are so prevalent, I wanted to get this but it's not worth it if it doesn't play well
@@Ihatevideogames334But I love Final fantasy but I’m picky.
These issues are only on switch. This is the problem with you Nintendo Fanboys ,if you really cared about the game why not play it on LITERALLY EVERY OTHER CONSOLE smh
You glossed over skies of Arcadia way too fast. That was by far the best RPG of that era.
I can stand behind that
🤔 it’s definitely top 5
That game was great. Just Bandai Namco want the money without the work! Great theme song and ending is interesting. I played it on the GameCube. Rented it at your local Movie Gallery which is dead now.
I mean I personally wouldn't care if they just straight up ported the PS3/PC/GC version without making any changes (sides upscaling if they did the GC version as PS3/PC already got that done more or less) as that would help further with game preservation/bringing it to new audiences (like the many people that don't play PC/don't have a PS3/GC) however it should've been priced appropriately for a 20 year old game that already got a remaster when this remaster added almost nothing...it should've been $20 or a bit less and absolutely no more than $25.
The ONLY justification for this $40 or even up to a $60 price point would've been if they added Dawn AND Phantasia Nakiri Dungeon X (best version of Phantasia on PSP with a lot of new content and of course localized it and KEPT all the skits this time (GBA, only official version of Phantasia, removed all optional skits from the game to make it wasier to translate)) so that we'd have all the games that occur in the Aselia world.
Sides that the ONLY other way to justify a higher/standard price would've been if they went with a full on remake of the game (granted has it's own issues such as that would likely mean content would be removed such as some optional locations, enemies that don't have a model in any recent game, some minor side quests/storyline, etc and more likely than not they'd need to replace all the VAs due to either them being too high budget now that Namco won't want to use them OR they have either retired/passed away in the years since Symphonia first came out...and personally I never liked anyone's performance that voiced Lloyd after Scott Menville and I cannot see anyone but Cam Clarke playing Kratos tbh)...it also probably wouldn't take them a few more years to do something like this so they probably should've aimed for the 25th anniversary in 2028 to celebrate Symphonia again with such a remake (other main reason they likely chose Symphonia this year was cause it's the 20th anniversary for the game and Japanese fans/devs love to do stuff for 10 year anniversaries for whatever reason...while we do anniversaries too in the west it's generally the first 10 year and then the 25th and every 25th year after that we celebrate (i've never really seen anyone celebrate the 20th, 30th, 40th, 60th, 70th, 80th, 90th, etc for anything in the US in grand fashion...at best maybe birthdays (granted that's a yearly thing) but other occasions not really at all sides the first 10th/25th/every 25 years after the first 25th).
The game's my favorite game of all time and I want to play it handheld however I'm gonna be waiting for a price drop to 20 or less before I pick it up (have too many other new games I also want to buy and not enough cash as I used to either).
I picked it up physically at Just Press Play and I think it plays decent, I originally played it on the ps3
After Tales of Vesperia I think I had to also pick this one up :D
I wonder if the rumors I've heard of them losing the GC source code are true. That would explain A LOT.
But then at that point I almost wonder why you wouldn't just wrap an emulator shell around a modified rom of the GC version and ship that instead. Sure it's not technically "running native" but if the product is higher quality at this point who cares? It's clear the PS2 version of the game isn't up to snuff
That 30fps is a big no for me I mean if the frame rate is still the same I can just play chronicles on PS3 with both games included...No way am I playing 30fps on a PS5.
I've played Tales of Symphinia on Nintendo GameCube, and I bought this game on Switch just the other day! I'm so happy to buy it!
Short answer: because its easier to hate than to understand
I dont "hate" it and it looks BEAUTIFUL and i never had 60FPS so I dont miss anything here...
but it DESPERATELY NEEDS TO PATCH:
- drastic FPS drops in Desert sand or heat/magma or other effects.
- absurd loading times
- annoying white screen when battle starts
Definetly inacceptable basics. But its in my eyes patchable and I hope they will solve it.
In days where patch were not possible this would have never passed QA. Now with "patching" we can simply drop QA and just release and post patch in some months but first make the customer angry.
I took a chance and bought Tales Of Symphonia for GameCube and after putting maybe 15 or so hours in I just quit. Same thing with Chrono Trigger or many of the Mana games I just get bored and loose interest mindlessly hitting attack. It's weird too because I love Zelda but there's puzzles and things to break up the monotony or keep you engaged while many others do not.
My favorite NintendoTuber back at it again with another video 😉
I know its more work, but if they lost the code then I wish they should've just did what square did with Kingsom hearts and FF8. Just build it from the ground up again.
I only bought this game because Metroid Prime Remastered sold out everywhere but on Amazon where it was $89.99-$99.99. To be fair, every store in my city only had one copy of this game left in stock so it's selling out nearly as fast as Metroid Prime Remastered is.
I was so excited about this release😓. I have nearly as many hours invested in it as I did melee
I’m just happy to have access to the game again.
The worst is the dead silence from Bandai Namco...like if they would just acknowledge this problem and try to fix it!
I bought it on PS4 and I play it on my PS5 it runs very well and looks beautiful to me with fast loading times. I love this game and have it on GC and PS3 as well. It's my second favorite RPG of all time and I actually enjoy the remaster. The battle and everything looks fine to me, I'm not someone who cares a bunch about fps unless it looks like a PowerPoint presentation. I haven't reached Triet yet, so let's hope that the PS4 version is better in this regard also.
Totally agree, was really looking forward to replay this one on the Nintendo Switch. A real shame that they dropped the ball on this one.
I’ve had this game for a while. Got it for like $2 at a yard sale years ago and never got around to playing it. So I might still get this Switch version at some point. Still… some of these remasters are sus….
@@Ihatevideogames334 I get hating Namco, especially since they've clearly gone globalist, but in regards to everything else...
Get some help.
I don’t mind the 30 fps I still love this game. Played it on GameCube, ps3, and I can’t wait to replay it on my ps5.
It's very sad for a game of this high quality. Personally I played on steam and it worked smoothly. Totally recommend playing on steam
I never played this series but I want to give it a try but after hearing the performance issues, I pray that they do a patch.
I doubt
Tales of Vesperia Definitive Edition is a blast. Highly recommended. Battle runs at 60fps
I love this guy hahah
You're the best RGT !!!
I own the remaster on PC already. I'll wait for a sale & get it then. 💜I do love ToS, it's my favorite.
Wait, if you have it already, why are you going to get it again?
I love this game and sucks about switch version and that they didn’t do gamecube version AND they didn’t include sequel like ps3 collection. I own it on gamecube, ps3, and now Xbox one haha. There are some Tales games that never came to the west and one on the vita not many have played so hope those get remasters soon too. Also Skies of Arcadia is due next for a remaster! Pleaseee and put in love next time and make it actually bettwr
Reason why Bandai Namco used the PS3 version for the remastered port was cause they lost the source code for the GameCube version thus why they couldn't use the GameCube version for any future remastered. It's the same reason why we never seen a Panzer Dragoon Saga remastered. If Bandai Namco wants a Tales of Symphonia in 60fps they either had to remake the game from the ground up or find those lost source codes. Same thing for Sega as well, if they want Panzer Dragoon Saga, the game either had to be remake from the ground up or Sega had to start spying on their employees to see if anyone steal the source codes or not. Also the reason the PS2 version is running the game at 30fps instead of 60fps was cause the PS2 clock speed is much lower than the GameCube. PS2 clock at 147 Mhz while GameCube clock at 162 Mhz so TOS had to cut back most of the framerates in able to keep the full game intact while adding a few minor contents.
as someone who played the GameCube version to completion when I was younger and is now playing through the remaster i never noticed any difference in framerate or performance
Great vid RGT 85.
Yh it's unforgivable that the Switch Version is the Worst Version aaround and not Remastering the GC Version of Symphonia was a big mistake aswell.
I don't hate it. In fact I've never even heard of this game🤷♂️
To be honest not a lot of people have
Maybe because it’s before your time
@Ten Eleven man I'm 45 year's old and was in my 20's when that game was first released. I'm an NES and SNES kind of guy😎
Welcome to the club. Never heard of this either. 40 bucks… nope.
@@teneleven2818 Unless this is from the early 70s ain’t before my time.
It's because back then most games ran at 60 frames per 2nd In a way to me it just felt like analog and digital T v's were forcing the 60 frames on you instead of allowing companies to choose but because we have HD technology On a game like tales of Symphonia 60 frames really doesn't a fancy enough game to make 60 frames really worth it For instance Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles 2 The arcade game on an NES The rock steady battle at the beginning of the game felt like 30 frames But when you play the actual arcade machine version of it like I'm actual machine or the one in the kalamanga collection you can see there's a difference in roxpetty speed between the arcade version indicating the home version felt like 30 frames while the arcade version actually did feel like 60 because of the pace and speed rock steady was moving it when you fought him as a boss At the very beginning of the game of the original arcade game and turtles 2 He felt slower like a 30 frame character on the original nintendo but on the arcade version he felt like he was actually running at 60 Because he was fighting and hitting and moving faster on the arcade version Well in turtles 2 Rock steady feels slow and sluggish And the 60 frames are probably only used back then to make games play and look nicer but now that we have HD technology companies can choose to make a game run at 60 or 30 depending on how much real time is in a game since tales of symphonia doesn't have much real time in it the company thought 60 frames was not necessary and went with the 30 And plus the remastered version is the steam version Where you can choose between 2 intro musics in Japanese The Japanese game cube Intro Japanese singer version of the song and then you also have the PS2 version of the song Which personally I think the PS2 version of the song is better cause it seems more suited to the remastered version of the game Whether a game is 60 frames or 30 frames does not matter As long as you play and enjoy the game that's all that matters That's why the company keeps using 30 frames Cause you fans complain too much they're teaching you a lesson stop complaini mean and play the game for what it is an a games are meant for entertainment you play a game for a game that it's frame rate good grief as long as 30 or 60 frames mix the game plable which frame rate they use doesn't matter Cause I play games at both frame rates 30 and 60 and I'm fine with either one as long as I can play and enjoy the game and have good HD resolution quality I am perfectly happy Because the Tennessee P resolution and the improved visual ness of the game is more than enough to make up for the lack of the 60 frames and being only 30 You people play breath of the wild and it's 30 frames and you're not complaining about that and that game is actually an excellent Japanese anime artwork And yet look it The original Hyrule warriors On the switch runs at 1080P and 60 frames Well age of calamity It's only 720 and 30 frames per 2nd Making you wonder why is the newer Hyrule Warriors age of calamity Have weaker resolution and weaker frame rate when it's the new route game and the older game has better resolution and better frame rate If you want to talk about an nintendo game that's been remastered correctly from gamecube look at twilight princess HD That's remastered the right way it may have the stamps in it for the mevers but technically it's mastered the correct way But you don't work for the company so you have no idea the reason why they chose this version of symphonia as a remastered So you really shouldn't criticize the company it might have been the only choice they had cause remember certain data could be corrupted of previous versions or source codes can be lost and they only used what they had that was the only option at the time If you worked at a video game company and own the company even you would realize sometimes situations like that require sacrifices in order to make fans happy sacrifices have to be made because of what's available to you cause there's a passage of time where certain data of games cannot be put on modern day technology or a certain data can be corrupted because of the passage of time or certain source codes could be lost Or certain games cannot be salvaged and they have to use a different version that actually woodwork so sacrifices have to be made so you fans need to realize that you fans do not have any idea of what decisions companies have to make in order to give you your favorite games back so you should appreciate what they can give you Instead of complaining about it Cause usually there is a perfectly good logical reason why they picked this symphonia has a remustard it was probably the only choice they had that would allow us to play it again so stop complaining It might have been the only choice the company had that would have a workable version on the systems they were bringing it to where would actually work on those systems because of what actually support the technology it was probably the only choice they had you shouldn't really complain you fans complained too much when you have no idea what goes on in a video game company Sometimes people like you make me sick Cause you just don't get it Sometimes companies have to make sacrifices I've seen a lot of TH-cam videos where people explain sometimes when somebody remasters something sometimes they had to remaster a Pacific version of music or movie or a game cause sometimes sacrifices have to be made because it is the only version available to them that would actually work on the modern day technologies they're gonna put it on so you should be happy you can play it at all So stop being a little B Cause you have no idea what goes on in the company why they make the choices they do sometimes sacrifices have to be made in order to give fans what they want It may not be the ideal version but as long as it is the game you like that's all that matters even if it's not the same version as long as the game still gives you that same nostalgic feeling that's all it really matters It's like you play a game for a frame rate and not cause you actually like the game that's pathetic
Wait a second... "Lloyd Irving" is the name of the main character!? WTF that's hilarious for some reason, Lloyd 🤣 hellyeah!
I don't get it, what's funny?
@@corey2232 idk it's just a funny hero name to me, reminded me of Lloyd Christmas from 'Dumb and Dumber'
@@egrytznr8893 LOL
People that I've heard hating on this is because it is the same port we got on ps3 with nothing new added from what I've heard and as such it is only 30 fps. Pair that with the fact the ps3 version came with Symphonia and it's sequel and this version is just the original Symphonia game without it's sequel.
Last time i played the game was the pc release in 2016 i was disapointed it ran at 30fps but i still played tru it i just downloaded a 60fps patch mod and it runs great its so weird bandai namco couldnt remaster the game to run at 60 fps especially since the HD version was released in 2014 PC 2016.
@@Ihatevideogames334 I'm sorry to hear that you don't enjoy the Tales of Symphonia game or the Tales series in general. It's understandable that not everyone likes the same type of game or game genre. Action RPGs and Role Playing Games can have a lot of complex mechanics and storylines that may not appeal to everyone.
Regarding your dislike of Japanese Role Playing Games, it's worth noting that the gaming industry in Japan has a rich history of producing games with unique and innovative storytelling, gameplay mechanics, and character designs that have gained a loyal following around the world. That being said, everyone has different preferences, and it's okay to not enjoy a particular type of game or game developer.
Lastly, Namco has been responsible for creating some of the most iconic and beloved games of all time, such as Pac-Man, Tekken, and Soul Calibur. However, not every game from a particular company will appeal to everyone, and that's perfectly fine. Ultimately, it's up to each individual to decide which games they enjoy playing.
@@DingoOnMy40 Don't give them the time of day, they're probably a bot.
Ok. As someone who got to play the GameCube version and remembers the variance in console versions back then. They're crazy.
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Tales of symphonia is an amazing game, i haven't tried it the remaster but loved the og
@@Ihatevideogames334 OK but what kind of games do you love?
I still have my gc copy, thank hod! I never sell my stuff unless I really need the money or the product was faulty.
Tales of symphonia remastered is the steam version What you get remember originally games are made in a computer in the 1st place when they're developed then they're reconfigured and retreat to run on whatever system they put on so they can understand the system and it's controller To realize you're not running off as device with a keyboard To play a game realizing you're actually on a home so they make minor tweaks And people shouldn't complain About If symphonia remastered
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3 years ago I bought it on Steam and it was really buggy. After 2hrs I walked away. Then I hear it was getting remastered for the Switch and I was hyped, until this video. Almost pre-ordered it too. Glad I didn't.
In regards to the "Will they ever patch it?" debate, I just noticed they're finally getting around to patching last year's "Chrono Cross" remaster, so....maybe the "Tales of Symphonia" remaster will be playable a year from now?
They must've lost the original GameCube source at some point. Is the only reason that everything has been done from the PS2 version since then. Especially in Japan, they did NOT preserve their old stuff very well. I mean, I get it, they probably didn't think it would ever come up again... But now 20 years later, it's really hurting them.
Well, i don't get it either. Its an Amazing game.
I didn't play ToS when it came out. I've got it cib for the GC just for the collection.
In 2014 i got ToS Chronicles for the PS3 which includes ToS & ToS Dawn of the New World. I still play it in the PS3 (currently on a new PT) and i will get the PS4 version too. I'ts easily my fav title from the Tales Of series so far. Even considering that Tales of Xillia, Tales of Graces, and Tales of Destiny are some of my all time Tales of games. The game is worth every cent, and its awesome that its now available on newer platforms.
This looks like a straight port of the PC version released eight years ago. Then charge three times the price of that version. 🤷♂️
I am playing and enjoying the game. I never had a game cube or PS3 so I am enjoying it for what it is. It is still a great game
As much as I love TOS, I would rather play it via dolphin than get the switch version.
I have a pal and ntsc-u copy so have no guild in emulating it.
Honestly I don't think games are the issue nowadays it's more the players in general being extremely spoiled now. Like, I get pointing certain things out, but it runs fine on xbox. These people just don't know how to game anymore.
I spent years trying to find the game I forgot the name of it , I found it again purchased for ps4 and I’m was so excited to play again . I do wish they added more stuff
Turok evolution remake with online multiplayer would be fantastic
This is such a shame to hear, I was honestly hoping to have the Remastered version on my Switch to play someday but it seems that I should just play the GameCube version if I ever want to replay it.
Because it doesn’t have “Metroid Prime 2: Echoes” and “Metroid Prime 3: Corruption” in it.
Anybody feels the same about Nier Automata on switch? I played the demo on ps4 then bought it on switch, because everyone was saying its one of the best ports, and immediately thought, no no no no and stop playing because now I'm gonna have to get it on ps4 to have a far better experience. The best port to me is Bioshock trilogy. That thing is freaking flawless on switch and interestingly runs at 30fps but i dont even notice. It's butterly smooth.
Skies of arcadia legends was on the gamecube.
I hope they remaster that omg
My favorite JRPG
Supposedly they lost the source code for the Gamecube version.
If people can, I'd highly suggest tracking down and picking up the first HD Remaster, *Tales of Symphonia Chronicles* for PS3 instead. It also has the sequel, *Dawn of the New World* added.
I wanted to buy this game since I enjoyed tales of vesperia on my switch. It’s so sad to see that this game has performance issues. I heard very good things about this game and it’s just disheartening to see that they didn’t optimize this game well for the Nintendo switch. I’ll consider buying it once the game is on sale and if they fix all the bugs in the game.
After experiencing a gazillion fps it's hard to play anything under 60.
I think they hate the remaster for having a lower framerate. The Switch version is apparently the worst port. 1:07 I want that to get remade. I played Tales of Symphonia on the Game Cube. I think Bandai Namco lost the source code for the original. The PS2 version does have better looking visuals. 3:21 Did he steal it? 5:20 I do not remember Colette wearing that. 30 FPS is far from unplayable. It will do. 7:36 PeePeePee! I like the fact that Lloyd sounds like Robin from Teen Titans.
I have the PC version of this game. You might need to make a few adjustments to actually play the game though since there are issues with the steam version and it may not start up. I can mod it to be 4K which isn't entirely necessary but there doesn't seem to be a patch for frame rate. Is it too difficult to fix? Despite the issues it was better than the Switch Version.
Yup, they lost the source code for the GC version so they’ve been using the PS2 version. And the costumes that the party is wearing @5:20 are cameo outfits put in the game through Symphonia Chronicles: Guy from Abyss for Lloyd, Rita from Vesperia for Colette, Luke from Abyss for Genis, and Ludger from Xillia 2 for Kratos in that clip.
I played it on the GameCube. I played it on the ps3 . and I'll play it again on the Switch . it is still a wonderful game .
I don't know about you, but my wife and I have been loving this game! And I've played through the GC version many times.
Skies of Arcadia and tales of symphonia, the one two punch of awesome. I best both games but seeing the latter remastered makes me happy. No one shoukd hate on this AT ALL.
I think it's more about loving the game, but hating how the remaster was butchered.