Belgian Draft Horses-national exhibition-an accident is in a small corner
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- 125th national Belgian draft horse exhibition- competition of the stallions of 4 years old - beautiful stallions but an accident is in a small corner
Prijskamp voor de hengsten van 4 jaar - 8 december 2019
These handlers have no idea what they're doing and the horses have no idea what the people want from them. Dangerous combination.
Well written and so real !
Seriously! Yanking at their mouths constantly and those damn plastic bags..ughh. If I’m this frustrated watching, can’t imagine how those horses must feel.
@@Jessica-uf3zp my thoughts exactly!! These are large, beautiful and powerful animals. This horse reacting this way doesn't surprise me at all, seeing how the handler was constantly jerking on the lead
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What's the point of this? If it's to show everyone how NOT to handle a horse, I get it.
Hahahaha..... Right?
I have a Belgian Draft. He’s the same size as the ones shown in the video. They are very placid, caring and loving horses. They are also extremely powerful. The pulling on the bit is not needed, reassurance would of been better from the handler. They look highly anxious and he obviously spooked at the end.
It's not yanking on the bit, they're yanking on the chain that they run through the mouth. It doesn't hurt, it's a reminder tool to respect the handlers
@@kelseyplagman2570 suuuure A chain doesn't hurt at all. What are you even talking about!? The best reminder is gentle, thorough training, not a chain or a bit or a whip or spurs.
@@jj_hoolio these are 2 year olds, still having the mentality of a yearling. These bit chains aren't made like regular chains, they're smooth and flatter. They're meant to be in the mouth for control purposes, if they hurt the horse would be flinching a lot more
@@kelseyplagman2570, these are 4 year olds. It is even in the video and also in the description. The chain does not go though the mouth, but under the chin and though the rings of the bit. Something you can also see in de video. They have a bit in their mouth and yanking it like that hurts.
The chain also hurts. The chain is something we call "hengstenketting" (stallion chain)
This is a way to control a stallion. This last man is clearly afraid of his own horse.
Even though the are strong, this yanking is not necessary. You don't know what you are talking about. Doesn't hurt? It hurts like hell. Maybe you should go to these shows sometimes and work with these horses, so you learn something.
@@NienkeJoe I've worked with drafts all my life and have gone to many shows, I never showed because we didn't use ours for shows. The stallion chain, bit chain, control chain, people call it didnt things can go over the nose, under the chin(but it's not effective) and most commonly, through the mouth, under the top lip across the gum or through the mouth across the tongue. They're using the last method. These chains aren't built like regular chains, they're smooth and flat, to avoid pinching or abrasion, and cause much less pressure than a bit. And since the amount of pressure is given on an equal surface, the amount of force it would take to hurt is a lot. Much more than the yanking on the video. The horse's head barely moves during the yanks.
Handler with huge belly is being pretty hard on the horse's mouth.
He is really a disgusting egotripper, not capable of handling that horse. 🙄
Doesn’t want the horse to make the same mistake he did
Bloody disgraceful the way they are yanking on their mouths and waving bags at them what a joke this isn't horsemanship
Agree they are disgraceful and a joke.
As if that wasn’t bad.. look at his tail!?
@@StariaWolfHeartYT I agree the tail was cut off
@@StariaWolfHeartYT The tail doccing for working drafts IMO is not wrong.
The tail is docced so it won't be ripped off (literally) or get stuck in the pulling tack. It's not for looks, just for safety. The tail (as in the bony structure) isn't longer than 40-50cm by nature.
This is just like with cattle dogs like the Australian shephard. Often farmers would rather doc the tail than to have to risk their dog being trampled by the herd of cattle and bulls because one of then stepped on the tail.
If it's docced for aesthetics that's a whole different thing.
@@marialindell9874 with the way these men treat the horse I don’t believe that.
Appalling. There is absolutely nothing admirable here except the fact that these beautiful horses don’t actually throw their weight around and fix the stupid people.
Poor horse nil tail so cruel and absolutely no need for this. This barbaric practice and should be illegal. These people don't know how to show a horse
jo bond it is illegal in the Netherlands! But the breeders don’t care and go to a different country to dock the tails 😞 I believe the studbook (KVTH) changed the rules now and horses born after a certain year that don’t have a full tail anymore (except when they have vet papers for it) aren’t accepted.
Tanja Ariens that’s so sad just shows the disregard for the horses welfare and lack of knowledge.
@@xPandabeer it's also elegal in Belgium but they just do it because it's "pretty" :( which is so sad
Yes, cutting tails and ears off animals to make them "prettier" is absolutely sickening!
It really hurts to see this as someone who grew up on a stud farm with shows like that. If you want a nice and clean show run, never ever hold the horse so close to you, it needs space to be able to show a proper run and pulling on the mouth like that is just an absolute no go. You’ll just make the horse aggressiv or scared and it’ll never show its full potential.
The man got what he deserved
You'd think that after 125 years of this National show, someone would have realized how to do it right? Why is this even allowed? People are watching this like it's normal to chase horses around with whips in a show. The horses are terrified. Yet still trying to do their best. Being studs, even being in the show ring with another young stud can be dangerous. Yet these ones are very well behaved. I'm just gobsmacked. I did not know that this kind of showing even happened in other countries. Would never happen in Canada. Not even once. The spectators would whip the crap out of the handlers if they saw something like that and he'd be banned for life.
It’s rare for me to make a negative comment but this is an example of people that don’t have love and compassion for horses. If they did, first of all the horses would have their beautiful tails. That is so wicked to chop off their tails, especially to that extreme. That is their natural defense against biting insects. Yanking on the lead like that further showed how much he doesn’t know about handling horses. I hate to see people treat animals this way. I’ve never been a fan of cutting their tails or breaking the bone in order for it to be arched up for showing. It’s an unnecessary cruelty. They can never swish their tails at the bugs that bite them.
Absolutely!
I agree except I think the docked tails are for pulling carts so that their tails would never end up in a wheel
I’m not a fan of docking horses tails, they do not break the bone on saddlebreds, they cut a tendon. Not a fan of that either.
Totally agree with you!! Also chasing a 4 year old Belgium Draft horse with a whip with a plastic bag on the end isn't gonna help. I do know that whips with plastic bags in the end can be a training device to stop horses being scared but they weren't using it for that reason.
They're just animals. People that can spend $30,000 for a horse can keep the insects from biting in a barn, with spray, and hired handlers, right?
Quote of Ray Hunt ; " When you get bitten or kicked by a horse, you do something wrong." I couldn't say it more clear!!
The horse is never wrong! ;) I think this people are far away from the idea of horsemanship that mr. Hunt exposes...
@@AleixEstrade bruh, this are drafthorses. This is fucking show. LET THEM Jezus christ
Poor poor poor horse. The horse in common is the most mistreated creature in the world, although humanity has to be grateful for all what these animals have done for us in history.
So, clearly low-skill handlers aside, anyone got a good explanation for why they are STILL cropping draft horse's tails off in this day and age???
It's completely despicable. How is the horse supposed to protect itself from flies?
@@itsemilee1502 completely agree i hate it!! and in dogs too
@@nathaliewade752 We just bought our first Belgian and she has had her tail cropped, not quite as barbaric as this horse, but flies are horrid this year and her little tail does nothing against her giant frame.
That's what fly spray is for. I reccomend CV 80D or something similar. It's often used in dairy barns to eliminate flies. It's a big aerosol can and the stuff drops flies out of the air. I've sprayed it on everything from newborn calves to elderly horses, and the only thing it hurts is insects.
@@kuroshi2798 well... good recommendation on the fly spray.... still doesn't explain the mindless stupidity and cruelty involved in making a show animal more 'fashionable '.
Where’s his tail? Did they cut it? THAT’S HIS SPINE
These people lack skills as trainers. I wouldn't behave well either with someone yanking my halter and threatening me with whips.
Good job. He successfully taught the horse that it can rip the lead out of his hands and get rid of him if it just tries hard enough. That's how people create dangerous horses. Applause.
There is so many things wrong here. There's so much stress put on that horse though the whole thing from poor handlers, the horse simply responded to the situation. Honestly, being someone who is used to Arabs, Anglo Arabs, Andalusians, Thoroughbreds, and Mustangs, I find it amazing this horse stayed as calm as it was for so long.
I applaud the horse for giving that handler the push.
The yanking of the bit is not needed and could've had a more positive result with a different approach or more training to slow down naturally. I am not one for docked tails for any animal, its cruel and not needed in today's world. A more experienced and gentle handler could have provided a different outcome. Horses are sensitive to who's near them, handling them and a crowd also plays into the mind of a horse. You can see the horses ears, eyes and body language not communicating with the handler. I'd would not have that trainer/handler/shower with a horse I owned. Overall handsome 4yr old.
Karen Brody. I fully agree with you. I hate to see the pulling hard on those bits, it must hurt the poor horses mouths. The docking of the tails is an outdated and disgusting practice with any animal. The judging of horses has now become a very cruel practice.
Docking a dogs tail for example is not cruel. Apparently you’ve never seen a breed prone to happy tail. It’s almost cruel not to.
@Kitty Yes we agree. The op was any animal. I simply pointed out that some dog breeds are better off with a docked tail. As for the horse we agree. And as for your comment about selfish breeding desires. This concept people have that people should not mess with animals is in itself arrogance. You are shunning the hard work these animals and the people that worked with them did to build our modern world. You take for granted the lack of hard work you have to do. I honor my horses by giving them a job. They are my machinery. The fact is the modern horse is a human invention. True wild horses are nowhere near the size of domestic horses. Mustangs are not wild they are feral, and they often die of starvation because the land can not sustain their population. People have taken Rick’s words and twisted them to something else. I suggest you open your mind and learn from others that are not “animal activists”. Most of which are some of the most evil, vile, and selfish people on the planet. I suggest you educate yourself through real outdoorsmen like Rick. For example do you know outdoor sports enthusiasts donate more money and land to protect and repopulate endangered animals than anything groups like PETA have ever or will ever do because the truth is they could care less.
I have seen very large draught horses like this one being shown in-hand with much less fuss and much more success, and in far more distracting environments too. If that man isn’t the owner then thank goodness the horse doesn’t have to go home with the prat.
My clydesdale was rescued at the age of five from an abusive situation.
He had been shown in the ring and was terrified of noise and clanking et cetera.
From the minute I had him, he was never hit him again. He became so trusting that he would literally try to do anything to please, but he never ever got over all the fears of being ill treated.
I somehow feel with this horse in the ring he will be punished when he returns home. There is zero rapport between the horse and the handler even allowing for the fact that the horse was young
That is horse abusing! Nothing else, poor ones
They cut his ENTIRE tail off! I thought this was finally illegal
That poor horse😳🙈that man should not be handling that horse like that
That 'man' has no business being a handler! Disgraceful...his fear was on full display. He truly deserved more than a tumbling. A suckers bet that abuse was later inflicted on that majestic equine. Plus, what's with the heinous mutilation of the tail!!! Humans...and their twisted vision of 'style' for convenience or ill-conceived flare and fashion
Well.. who didn’t see that coming?
Yup, inevitable. And when it did happen I thought, "Ha, there he went with his white suit, right in the poop."
Don't stick anything in a horse's mouth and use it as a handle.
No need for the mouth jabbing it looks cruel and is cruel,
Utter utter cruelty.
I can’t understand why he keeps yanking in his head collar there no need the horse not being bad at all and wow karma started quick lols 😂
AND WHATS THE POINT OF THIS "SHOW"
Sorry Belgium but in what century do we find ourselves. Docking tails??????? What a disgrace!
I feel sorry for the horses. The horse involved in the accident appears to have narrow bit in its mouth which the handler is constantly yanking on. I can see the horses aren’t happy but the handlers are too focused on showing and winning to care about the horses.
This is a stallion this is stallion behavior do your research before coming at people when you know nothing at all
SuGaR aNd SpIcE most horses, stallions or not, rarely respond well to handlers yanking on their mouths in such a manner
SuGaR aNd SpIcE I’ve worked and shown horses for more than 55 years. I know what I’m talking about.
@@biddydibdab9180 I have worked with horses all my life I know what I'm talking about to just because you worked with horses doesn't mean your always right and that's my opinion
SuGaR aNd SpIcE but...you’ve also worked with horses so that also doesn’t mean your right
STOP PULLING ON HIS MOUTH AND MAYBE HE WONT ACT UP
If Rick Gore saw this he'd have a stroke
It looks to me that the handler is nervous and anyone that knows horses. Knows that a horse can feel nervousness in you whether you're a Rider or a Handler
Love belgians. My gf rode a half Belgian for pretty hardcore trail riding and the horse never had any issues, so robust! Please consider not cropping the tails♡♡♡♡
Cut off their tails?
Wtf were they doing anyways What did they think was going to happen?!?! Looked to me like a fearful handler with a lack of confidence!!!
The guy who fell over is a cruel dork - unnecessary yanking on the horses mouth. Feel so sorry for these horses surrounded by these sadists.
Never forget that large horses do not feel large, and are easily frightened.
Lovely lads are full of sparkle.
I know they need brakes, but jabbing the bits is painful and winds them up.
They're yanking on a chain through the mouth, it doesn't hurt.
2 Horse handler stop pulling that chain when it stands still
I cant stant horse with no tail looks dumb still great looking horse even without his tail
why dock the tails let alone this severely? there's no tail at all. shameful. the horses are yanked and prodded and horribly treated by the handlers who are obviously not in good control. even though these were stallions, the belgians are calm and usually well mannered. what is wrong here?
No way am I subscribing to this channel!
This is outrageous abuse, by total sadistic idiots. Yanking at their mouths constantly, and poking them with sticks.
These poor creatures are confused and scared.
Stud chains in the mouth cause too much pain. See the foam? Even a novice knows better.
Shameful!!
Can’t believe how badly these poor horses are being treated judge should have asked both of them to leave the ring due to bad horsemanship
What is the purpose for cutting off their tails? Horses need their tails to swat at bugs.
Jerking on the bit I wish the handler had to go through the same torture , make him know how painful it is.
Stunning animals 💕
Absolutely disgusting that these horses have been fully docked!
Animal Cruelty .....removing horses dock should be a criminal charge😡😡
Why do they doc the tails??? What’s the point?
It is (supposedly) because a driving horse could swish his tail over the reins and cause the driver to lose control. This can happen but most people with carriage horses can deal with it. It's really just a tradition now and illegal in some places.
They would look a lot better with the tails they were born with, I know docking is common for drafts but damn it should have to be THAT short!
Yes yanking on the bit will do the thing
Poor horse still gential giant being in loud scarry arena with some ass hole draging them around by their face
That older guy at 2:45 just ran to the other side in front of a trotting horse, almost under his neck and then yanked reins very hard just before tripping causing that horse pain. That's why that horse got scared and just ran away instinctively. I can't see a really disobedient horse on whole video...
Why are their tails cut off? How are they supposed to swat flies????
Well, those people want to show horses and don´t teach them, how to behave. Belgian Draft Horses are very, very calm horses and mostly you can do everything with them. But you have to teach them how to do, when they go in a show. What this people are doing, is casing big horses around and pluck around in their mouth. You can´t say to a horse be nice and friendly and then there is someone with a whip and a platic bag on it behind, casing the horse in front. These horses must get confused. Teach them how to get led in the walk and in the trott and you will have no problem. This is not nice.
Goes to show that humans aren't they only creatures that don't like to get jerked around. Otherwise, these are lovely horses 🐎 😀
If only these idiots realized that the whole time they were scaring the crap out of these horses and generally being the worst human beings possible, any one of these huge horses could have killed them with one well-timed kick, but, chose not to. Even with all the abuse, in that very noisy and distracting environment, the horses tried their best and did whatever they thought they needed to do. The one who spooked, which was not his fault, will no-doubt be punished for that. It just makes me sick to my stomach. That man didn't get enough of what he deserved. I feel no shame in saying that either.
I grew up in the show ring. Not with drafts. But it's pretty much the same thing when you're 8 years old handling a full grown quarter horse. All horses have the ability to hurt you if they need to. But they choose not to. They choose to work with us and for us. Can we not appreciate that fact and give them the respect they deserve?
Tonight I really hope I dream about a beautiful draft horse kicking the living daylights out of an elderly man with a totally useless whip in his hands for his defense. I will awake smiling.
The tail 😣🙄
Bloody awful handling, yanking on mouth, that horse just wanted out of there 😡. Not only that, his hindquarters hadn't been groomed.
DONT CUT OFF DA TAIL
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Very clearly at 2:44 he was running in front of the horse WHILE yanking at the chain, and the horse was stressed enough from the beginning based on the ears flicking. The guy is lucky he didn’t get ran over and stepped on. I don’t understand how someone who can’t handle a horse is trying to show one
Stop yanking on him! Jesus he’s wanting to please but your confusing him. Sad.
The Handlers are worst 😒
When you show dogs you don't chase them or wave flags to build up anxiety! The point is to show the horse has natural grace not to startle the shit out of a beautiful soul.
I don’t like the way they yanking on the mouth or chin! Poor horseman ship! Go back to school. Try a little kindness. Your in the wrong business!
Why are these people running around while grabbing a horse?
2 or more whips on either side, chain AND bit through mouth and a super crowded stadium. No need to terrorize these animals to show off their majesty!
Horse says “go ahead... keep yanking on my face - see what happens”
AWFUL to see. What happened to their tails?
The horse is confused. Too many mixed signals
I hate the chains, the yanking on their mouths, and cutting their tails so short that their genitals are exposed to the elements. This is barbaric. None of it would fly in America in fact it's illegal to dock tails here.
This is a good video showcasing total incompetence by all the handlers! Also, what is the justification in completely destroying the appearance of these beautiful horses by completely cutting off their tails. They should be banned from owning and breeding horses. Obviously they only care about the money their horse can generate. I hate that attitude!
Why cut the tails of?
You can tell this isn't in America because the song Sweet Caroline is playing but nobody is singing along.
Who else was highly concerned with how he was holding those lead ropes and all that yanking isn't gonna do anything
Yup, bunched up or loops around the hand like that is just asking for a drag or stripped fingers.
That accident was th handlers own fault, HE crossed in front of th horse too close and th horse clipped him because he got cut-off, th same exact way one would cause a car accident by cutting off another driver on th hwy. I'm a horse person without horses anymore, but I'm wrkn on fixing that problem. TRUE happiness, is riding your horse, your OWN horse that becomes almost like an extension of your own body once you know each other very well. My black paint mare, MarryAnn that I had, she knew when I wanted her t pick up speed,or turn or whatever. I didn't need t kick at all, I leaned forward and squeezed with th legs and she knew, and we flew. Th stable I was boarding her at in Arizona,th handlers let her water go dry, I caught it one day when I came t ride my other horse and told them about it and I'm pretty sure that's what killed her. I couldn't afford an autopsy at th time but I moved my remaining 2 horses to another location and told them all about what happened so they'd be VERY careful with my animals. Th assholes tried t tell me that she died of a heart attack..... just standing in her pen. NOPE, she would've died giving birth to her foal th year before,her heart was also checked by th vet at that time or shed've died while we were running at her top speed in th desert. She was so beautiful too,RIP my beautiful MarryAnn.
Where was the tail on that horse?????????????? He was clearly abused by people in his past.
This is an unprepared horse. He is watching worriedly on both sides of himself for the people with whips. A rush job on the handlers behalf. Only makes himself look bad.
What are they doing to this horse
Where the hell is its tail??
No tail! He'll no! Just not right.
What a joke these people should be embarrassed, terrible handlers and no horsemanship. Young stallions in a stressful environment, what is with the multiple people stalking and chasing with bags like predators?? Also giving confusing signals left and right. Smh 🤦🏻♀️
Get someone who knows what they are doing. It’s a frightening strange world for this young horse. Docked tails are a disgrace. They don’t dock dogs anymore they must stop with horses too!
Wow the handler fell... Didnt see that coming....
You really don't want to hear my comment that trainer should not be allowed around any horse yanking on hat bit like that is cruel it's hurting the horse's mouth, he should be banned from ever showing a horse in an arena with people, the horse is nervous and that trainer is adding to it, If that man treated one of my horses like that I would use that whip on him.
These prats deserve all they get!!! You can see in plain sight that the bit is far to small causing pain in the mouth!! Why do they disrespect these beautiful animals. This is so unnatural for any horse. Shame on them!!
They do NOT need that treatment when asked to do something. Well trained means the horse understands what you want him to do. Next time start training earlier and develop a bond of trust. Neither one was thinking of the horse.
Those docked tails are hideous.
Hi im Danielle and I love Belgique horses aldo I tink that that horse was exited aldo that breed is yugely sweet and hisy to work with im sorry for the horse.🐎💗
So sad, poor horse was terrified !!!
He shd b charged with animal cruelty, cutting off the horses tail! hows the horse going to swat flies away in the summer?
Beautiful horses, horrible handlers- such bullies!
I am a teenager that Handel's Belgian drafts bigger than that and the yanking on the chain is unnecessary. These horses are spooked by the other people that are carrying whips coming behind them and it just scares the horse all around and this is very much not how you want to handle a horse. For all of you people saying that horses are treated cutely at my farm are horses are well loved even if they misbehave from time to time we all are sad to see someone miss treating our horses or any horses for that matter.
This is soooo disgusting!!!!! It is sickening. These beautiful horses do not deserve this!!!
Y r they hiding the horse s tale?
The horse looks so funny without the tale!!!
Stop yanking on them. I know this happened a while ago but damn
big, strong, couragous and beautiful