Cinematic Excrement: Episode 137 - Twilight Saga Retrospective

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  • Rather than just taking a second look at Breaking Dawn Part 2, let's revisit the saga that began my descent into madness.
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ความคิดเห็น • 517

  • @TheBeird
    @TheBeird 2 ปีที่แล้ว +94

    I'm not a fan of Bob Chipman, but he gave the funniest review of Breaking Dawn Part 2. He said something to the effect of; "I've watched movies while imagining better versions of them, whereas this movie imagines a better version of itself while I'm watching it!"

    • @suedenim
      @suedenim 2 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      My favorite reaction is the jaded Producer Guy on Pitch Meetings, who suddenly gets excited: "Did this movie just get GOOD?" Then he's totally deflated to the point of reconsidering his career choice when he learns it's just a dream sequence.

    • @louisduarte8763
      @louisduarte8763 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@suedenim Turned out resolving the cenruries-long conflict between vampires and werewolves was super-easy, barely an inconvenience.

  • @BrandonCroker
    @BrandonCroker 2 ปีที่แล้ว +35

    Kristen Stewart screaming at Jacob over Nessie is comedy gold and I will hear no argument about it.

    • @jbvader721
      @jbvader721 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      "YOU NICKNAMED MY DAUGHTER AFTER THE LOCH NESS MONSTER??!!!!" You gotta give to Stewart, she at least tried to be emotional there. Even if it was overdone. Yes, I'm saying she overacted at that moment. Try not to faint.

    • @BrandonCroker
      @BrandonCroker 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@jbvader721 True. Stewart really deserved better.

    • @theanonymouscritic1710
      @theanonymouscritic1710 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      It’s not comedy gold. It’s stupid and dull witted and something no normal person would say!!

  • @sailoritaly
    @sailoritaly 2 ปีที่แล้ว +93

    Also side note: Robert Patterson went from being a man-bat to the Batman

    • @TheMadTurtle
      @TheMadTurtle 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Marble corpse man
      Edit; Solomon Grundy to the Batman o.o

    • @warrirornunluv801
      @warrirornunluv801 ปีที่แล้ว

      Kristen Stewart trying to pick a monster, ending up to fight an Outer God

  • @troyschulz2318
    @troyschulz2318 2 ปีที่แล้ว +100

    I run my University’s bad movie club (the Anti-Cinema Cinema Club), and to close out our spring term we held a ROCKY HORROR-esque rowdy screening of TWILIGHT; replete with callouts, props (ie. waving a red flag whenever Edward does something creepy), a costume contest, My Chemical Romance and playing whiffle ball during the baseball scene. It was grand ol’ time and we’re turning it into an annual fixture, we’re gonna try to get Catherine Hardwicke to make an appearance.

    • @michaelstrong5383
      @michaelstrong5383 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      That sounds like a lot of fun and the only way of watching these movies.

    • @jbvader721
      @jbvader721 2 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      I watch it either with the Rifftrax commentary (the "... Line?" gag never gets old) or with the actual DVD commentary where Robert Pattinson and Kristen Stewart MST3K their own movie. I have to have booze with me because I can't watch it sober.

    • @troyschulz2318
      @troyschulz2318 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@michaelstrong5383 I think half the people there unironically love TWILIGHT because they grew up with it, but they mock it just the same.

    • @erichfiedler1481
      @erichfiedler1481 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      At least you're less rowdy than those teens who saw Minions: The Rise of Gru

    • @zombieedrea
      @zombieedrea 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@michaelstrong5383 Oh my god, this sounds SO FUN. This should be a staple everywhere like Rocky Horror and The Room showings. Especially with the Twilight renaissance happening. These films are trash but they're campy and so fun to mock. Your university is creative as hell. I hope Catherine Hardwicke eventually makes an appearance. Hell, can you imagine if Robert Pattinson were there? That'd probably be impossible but the thought makes me smile.

  • @1997residente
    @1997residente 2 ปีที่แล้ว +78

    Ah 2012
    How to forget such a nostalgic year. I was 15.
    -We were paranoid for a Mayan apocalyptic legend
    -Arctic Monkeys and Lana Del rey were rising
    -Slenderman popularity
    -SOPA and PIPA protests
    -KONY
    -Dark Knight trilogy ended
    -Hunger Games was beginning. Therefore, Jennifer Lawrence manía.
    - AVENGERS BABY !
    -GANGNAM STYLE
    -Oh and we were like "Twilight
    Is this still a thing?"

    • @michaelstrong5383
      @michaelstrong5383 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Can't believe it's been 10 years since then.

    • @tristanhartup4936
      @tristanhartup4936 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I was 16 that year, and I'm 26 this year... I am old.

    • @JimK2112
      @JimK2112 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Graduated from High school in 2012, I’m old 😂

    • @matthewhunter1193
      @matthewhunter1193 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I was only 11 then LOL. Wish I could go back.

    • @coolnerdlll6053
      @coolnerdlll6053 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I graduated preschool, started kindergarten, my last remaining great grandparent died and my family moved. Those were simpler times.

  • @coolnerdlll6053
    @coolnerdlll6053 2 ปีที่แล้ว +142

    I'm really into bad summaries of popular movies, and my favorite for Twilight is "A girl has to decide between necrophilia and bestiality."
    That sums it up pretty well.

    • @thefantasticretroreviewer3941
      @thefantasticretroreviewer3941 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      9:34, Tell me he almost like Dr. Frank-un-Furter in this shot here

    • @jesusrox4u
      @jesusrox4u ปีที่แล้ว

      Ha ha ha ha ha!!!!! 😂

    • @jeremyallen5974
      @jeremyallen5974 ปีที่แล้ว

      I'd much prefer the fur coat
      The fleas will be a bitch to deal with but it beats chilling with someone who could flip their psycho switch and play Operation! on me at even the slightest smell of blood

  • @heymistercarter.
    @heymistercarter. 2 ปีที่แล้ว +172

    Well, one good thing that came out of this franchise: the two lead actors went on to much bigger and better things with their careers that showed that they were not just "the Twilight people". Robert Pattinson has made a name for himself in critically acclaimed arthouse films and is even our current Batman. And Kristen Stewart has not only also done some great indie/arthouse work too, but she's also been nominated for a freaking Oscar! Yea, I'm pretty sure no one who saw her acting in this would imagine her eventually being referred to as "Academy Award Nominee Kristen Stewart". But I'm happy for the both of them, they both deserve the success they've found in recent years.

    • @coolnerdlll6053
      @coolnerdlll6053 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Good for them (especially Robert, because I loved him as Batman), but what happened to Taylor Lautner? He did a couple of Adam Sandler movies and then disappeared.

    • @johnnysparkle
      @johnnysparkle 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Launtner was in Shark Boy and Lava Girl but not in the sequel-ish

    • @andysorensen1737
      @andysorensen1737 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@coolnerdlll6053 Just looked him up. Not much movie wise, but he was on a British sitcom for a few years so good for him.

    • @tristanhartup4936
      @tristanhartup4936 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I'm happy for both of them too.

    • @jeremyusreevu237
      @jeremyusreevu237 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      And also the Rifftrax versions.

  • @jbvader721
    @jbvader721 2 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    If there was one thing that makes watching the first film worth watching, it is the DVD commentary. It is just two hours of Robert Pattinson and Kristen Stewart ripping into it MST3K-style while the director, Catherine Hardwicke is desperately trying/failing to make them stop. There's something almost beautiful in the knowledge that they were in just as much misery making these movies as we were watching them.

    • @matthewdaley746
      @matthewdaley746 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Like, the guy who cleans up, after, the elephants, says, watching great entertainment is, truly, far more exciting, than, making great entertainment.

  • @barbiquearea
    @barbiquearea 2 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    "Edward who claims to be in love with Bella also repeatedly reminds her he wants to eat her"
    Sounds like Edward takes relationship advice from Armie Hammer.

  • @VerdantRange
    @VerdantRange 2 ปีที่แล้ว +42

    10:50 Wait, Victoria wanting to kill Bella doesn't make sense? I'm not a Twilight fan, but this is clearly a case of revenge by proxy. "Edward and his family are responsible for the death of my lover, so I'm going to kill Edward's lover to make him suffer". Seems pretty clear cut. Besides, who would be easier to kill? The soft, squishy, mortal or the vampire that can go toe-to-toe with a werewolf so tough, punching one hurts a normal human hand.

    • @anikmonette2140
      @anikmonette2140 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      And then getting destroyed by Edward anyway because I pretty much doubt he'll let it slide...

  • @michaelstrong5383
    @michaelstrong5383 2 ปีที่แล้ว +48

    Robert Pattinson has been through quite the filmography so far in his career. Started off in the fourth Harry Potter movie, gained infamy for being in this franchise, starred in some arthouse/indie films to prove people he's a great actor, and became Batman himself.

    • @thecinematicmind
      @thecinematicmind 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Pattinson thankfully made Erod change his mind after his infamous tombstone tweet.

    • @yorkierussell9255
      @yorkierussell9255 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Don’t forget he was also one of the leads in a Christopher Nolan film. And now, in addition to being in Batman sequels, he’s going to be the lead in Bong Joon Ho’s next film, which is Bong’s latest after he cleaned house at the Oscars for Parasite. It starts shooting next month. Quite the filmography, indeed!

    • @rsfilmdiscussionchannel4168
      @rsfilmdiscussionchannel4168 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@thecinematicmind What was the tombstone tweet? I remember him saying “Man they really don’t want me to watch these movies” I know he reviewed The Batman but did he actually like it and Pattinson in the role?

    • @thecinematicmind
      @thecinematicmind 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@rsfilmdiscussionchannel4168 On the 27th June 2019 Erod responded to a Twitter user about giving the benefit of the doubt of Pattinson (related to Erod's surprise of Charlies Angels reboot trailer at the time) and Erod writes, "Josh I'm not watching that movie even if it had the secret formula to cure cancer. Feel free to carve that onto my fucking tombstone"

    • @rsfilmdiscussionchannel4168
      @rsfilmdiscussionchannel4168 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@thecinematicmind I remember that and his general Twitter behaviour and how he behaved during the Cinematic Venom Change the Channel drama made me swear off him and be embarrassed I was ever a fan of his. Not to mention he was just a terrible reviewer. Nowadays I’m more okay with him but I’m not keen on checking out anything he does.

  • @WalkmanWillWalkAllOverYou
    @WalkmanWillWalkAllOverYou 2 ปีที่แล้ว +37

    Remembering Twilight makes me appreciate The Batman even more.

    • @jbvader721
      @jbvader721 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      No love for The Lighthouse? HAAAARRRK!!

    • @thecinematicmind
      @thecinematicmind 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@jbvader721 and Good Time!

  • @trinaq
    @trinaq 2 ปีที่แล้ว +51

    All of the actors were far more talented than the material they had to work with. Many of them have gone on to better things, with Robert becoming the next Batman, and Kristen being Oscar Nominated for her work on "Spencer."

    • @chasehedges6775
      @chasehedges6775 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      💯💯💯💯

    • @thecinematicmind
      @thecinematicmind 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Robert Pattinson’s performances in The Childhood of a Leader, Good Time, High Life, The Lighthouse and The Devil All The Time are proof he can act.

    • @claudettewright365
      @claudettewright365 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@thecinematicmind I don’t think most people who’ve been paying attention over the last couple of years questions whether Robert can act. He’s nothing less than incredible. He completely disappears in every role, and finds a way to make each one distinct. Not many actors nowadays in his generation can do that! I also think he’s up there with Saoirse Ronan with his ability to nail a wide range of accents, maybe even better since he tends to do very regionally specific accents that can be hard to nail.

    • @umachan9286
      @umachan9286 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      The issue is that these actors are best known for this series. Well that's not completely true. Taylor Lautner will always be Sharkboy to a lot of people. But anyway what didn't help is the massive amount of hype these movies got, the fact that Kristen played Bella with all the charm and charisma of a block of wood and that people actually thought Stephanie Meyer was a good writer.
      We can all thank "The Host" for showing Hollywood that she's a hack and the Twilight series was just pure dumb luck.

  • @razrhiannaspiers8506
    @razrhiannaspiers8506 2 ปีที่แล้ว +37

    One of the only TH-camrs I scream out loud “YES” when there’s a new episode out 🤘

  • @ashleightompkins3200
    @ashleightompkins3200 2 ปีที่แล้ว +26

    I'll say it, the worst thing that this series did was the harm it did to the Quileute people. They're still getting screwed over by this crap

  • @toecutterjones
    @toecutterjones 2 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    As a formerly tweenage girl of the early 90's I can say that most girls that age think of love in this intense toxic way (because they're 12) but the majority of us grow out of it by graduation.

    • @ph89787
      @ph89787 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      From which stage of schooling?

  • @animeotaku307
    @animeotaku307 2 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    The worst part about BD part 2’s twist is that it contradicts canon. According to the books’ lore, Alice can’t see the future if werewolves (sorry, “shifters”) and hybrids are involved. So Meyer was okay throwing out a crucial piece of her world building just so none of her characters would die.

    • @eamonndeane587
      @eamonndeane587 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      To quote Lina Lamont "GEE This is DUMB!"
      Just to be clear I'm talking about Meyer's Writing incompetence, not your comment.

    • @arvinroidoatienza7082
      @arvinroidoatienza7082 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@eamonndeane587I mean, this was only in the movie. I guess she thought the book ending was boring. Which actually was

  • @wstine79
    @wstine79 2 ปีที่แล้ว +31

    Edward: "I've been waiting for you, Smeg head. When you left me I was but a vampire, now I am the Batman!"

    • @chasehedges6775
      @chasehedges6775 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Star Wars reference

    • @buckoQuentin
      @buckoQuentin 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Careful, when "the Batman" gets mad, he roids up and give you a super beat down.

    • @dvass7253
      @dvass7253 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Only The Batman Who Laughs, Ed.

  • @MrHootiedean
    @MrHootiedean 2 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    OMG, I had never seen the robot baby before! My poor brain wasn't ready for that. And if I were Kristen and Rob, I would be so offended someone thought that's what our offspring would look like. WTF?!!!

    • @erichfiedler1481
      @erichfiedler1481 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I agree, even all the animatronic Chucky's look less creepy than that baby, and those were MEANT to be scary as fuck

  • @MedicineMundy
    @MedicineMundy 2 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    Ahh Twilight; The film that caused scene girls to mark their necks with 2 uneven red sharpie marks and fall for toxic teenage boys that wear Halloween fangs to school.
    Well done on this review, Sean! Proud of you! 😎👉👉

  • @justinriley
    @justinriley 2 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    Crazy to think you've been doing this for 12 years. I've been watching you since 2012.

  • @arklestudios
    @arklestudios 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Dominic Noble did a series of videos looking at the books and the frustrating thing about Meyer is that there are genuinely well written moments in the books. The problem is it becomes clear in context that those good parts were completely by accident.

  • @mimihunter5559
    @mimihunter5559 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    I happened to see Breaking Dawn part II opening night in the theater and the the crowd reaction to the battle scene at the end was like nothing I have experienced before or since. There was screaming, sobbing and almost total hysteria. The woman next to me was weeping uncontrollably. The way the crowd reacted you would have thought they had been forced to watch beloved family members murdered right in front of them. If it hadn’t turned out to be fake, I am certain there would have been a riot afterwards.

  • @Hewylewis
    @Hewylewis 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Robert pattinson: Started out a sparkling vampire, ended up Batman! :D What a career!

    • @thecinematicmind
      @thecinematicmind 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      He started out in Goblet of Fire.

    • @Hewylewis
      @Hewylewis 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@thecinematicmind I meant what he was BEST known for career wise.

    • @moviesmemesandstuff2759
      @moviesmemesandstuff2759 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I was always on the firm belief that Robert was ALWAYS a great actor. He just needs the right material and the right filmmaker to work with. And it's definitely been paying off in the last few years, with him being a fantastic Batman now.

    • @Hewylewis
      @Hewylewis 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@moviesmemesandstuff2759 I'm surprised that Bella's actress could be good, too. I just find it a shame that in some reviews I see, she's always dredded when viewed in any movie that isn't Twilight. Honestly, I liked her in Zathura.

  • @brandonmclendon5368
    @brandonmclendon5368 2 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    Well at least Robert Pattinson went off to be a critically acclaimed actor and become Batman, and Kristen Stewart is an Oscar nominee. Next time, we’ll be talking about a movie so bad, that George Clooney told the producers “Fuck Off” when he was approached to appear in the film.

    • @jbvader721
      @jbvader721 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Never saw this happening in our 2022 Bingo Cards. But, I ain't mad.

    • @erichfiedler1481
      @erichfiedler1481 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      And this is gonna be incredible and insane, especially when Nostalgia Critic reviewed this film a few years back

    • @yorkierussell9255
      @yorkierussell9255 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@jbvader721 Honestly, same! (Except, it was around 2019 when The Lighthouse was getting Oscar buzz for me).

    • @jbvader721
      @jbvader721 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@yorkierussell9255 I'm still sore about both Pattinson and Dafoe getting snubbed for their performances in "The Lighthouse". I know the Academy looks down upon horror but this was ridiculous to the point of insulting.

  • @eamonndeane587
    @eamonndeane587 2 ปีที่แล้ว +29

    Charlie Swan deserved a better daughter.
    Also Aro's Laugh in these films makes ne wish that Michael Sheen had been cast as the Joker.
    Having seen Dominic Noble's Twilight Reviews of the Books, those Novels deserve more of the Flack than the films do.

    • @coolnerdlll6053
      @coolnerdlll6053 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      I read the books. Charlie was far and away the best character and Bella trashed him every chance she got. I subscribe to Team Mustache Dad.

    • @jbvader721
      @jbvader721 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@coolnerdlll6053 I've been on Team Mustache Dad since 2008.

    • @yorkierussell9255
      @yorkierussell9255 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Billy Burke needs more love for his performance. He did a great job as Charlie.

    • @yorkierussell9255
      @yorkierussell9255 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@coolnerdlll6053 Facts!

    • @roberttreacy8271
      @roberttreacy8271 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Two things:
      1) Charlie and Aro are the only likable characters in Twilight IMO.
      2) Michael Sheen would be an awesome Joker.

  • @moonman375
    @moonman375 2 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    divergent "final book two part" was such a bomb it killed the concept dead cold, to the point even the MCU avoided calling infinity war "part 1" and chose to call part 2 "endgame"

    • @tristanhartup4936
      @tristanhartup4936 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      But not dying out entirely as the next two mission impossible movies are doing it now

    • @coolnerdlll6053
      @coolnerdlll6053 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I couldn't even finish the Allegiant movie. I loved the books and the first two movies were okay, but it was so bad. People who hate the Percy Jackson movies don't even understand how much worse it could have been.

    • @OverlyPositiveFanboy
      @OverlyPositiveFanboy 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Across the Spider-Verse Part 2 is now called Beyond the Spider-Verse. Also, Justice League was originally announced as a two-parter before ditching it and having Part 2 just be a sequel... that never got made.

  • @A_Dopamine_Molecule
    @A_Dopamine_Molecule 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    I remember when my English professor back in college actually asked us to read Twilight as an example of what not to do in creative writing... I both love and hate that this is true.

    • @galeforce3192
      @galeforce3192 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I actually envy you. The closest that happened in my college was a classmate mentioning "the drivel that was Fifty Shades of Grey" in my junior year; this was in 2012. That was the first time I heard of that. I later read the first book out of sheer morbid curiosity. I only made it halfway through the book, but boy did it do a great job of teaching me what not to do.
      Context: I majored in English precisely so I'd have a good background for becoming a novelist. I'm still working on my first novel, but I have 14 chapters done.

  • @jib7026
    @jib7026 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Robert Pattinson said in an interview that Edward in real life would be "an axe murderer".

    • @matthewdaley746
      @matthewdaley746 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Mike Myers married one in a film that's, so, very, criminally underrated.

    • @jbvader721
      @jbvader721 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      He knew our pain and suffering all too well.

    • @matthewdaley746
      @matthewdaley746 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @jbvader721 Totally, his own would soon be forthcoming, and, never, ended.

  • @globetrekker86
    @globetrekker86 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Yes! The Smeghead’s screen rants are back. The best belated birthday present I could ask for. Thank you, Sean! 😀

  • @davidcopplestone6266
    @davidcopplestone6266 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    IIRC "50 Shades of Grey" was originally written as Twilight fan fiction.

    • @jbvader721
      @jbvader721 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Garbage from Queen Garbage of the Garbage Dynasty. That's what I call it.

    • @SuperMarkerComicBro
      @SuperMarkerComicBro 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Honestly, gives me a bit of faith in my novel. If a BDSM fanfic of _twilight_ can become a successful series, then my _Smash Bros._ fanfic-turned-original novel has a chance, too.

    • @erichfiedler1481
      @erichfiedler1481 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@jbvader721 good one Eustace 👍

    • @erichfiedler1481
      @erichfiedler1481 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I've read Sunestone, and it's a way better BDSM love story than the entire 50 Shades trilogy

    • @antibishonen
      @antibishonen 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I learned that the hard way.

  • @KylieWilson
    @KylieWilson 2 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Thank you so much for that footage of Michael Sheen as Nero, I haven’t laughed that hard in ages.
    Movie 43 next?! Woof…
    When you eventually finish your Razzies series, you should review the 365 Days series, those pieces of crap are right up your alley. I believe it was “inspired” by 50 Shades and somehow is 100 times more problematic than THAT series if you can believe it. And every review I’ve seen of those movies usually has the comments section filled with embarrassed Polish people apologising that it is a Polish product.

    • @matthewdaley746
      @matthewdaley746 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      OT, but, if there's a European country that's had a, worse, 20th Century, And, Beyond, I'm unaware of it, first, the Nazis sought to, completely, annihilate them, second, their, "liberators," the Russians, subjected them to decades of Communism, third, their entire government died in a plane crash, Poland, really, needs a hug.

    • @KylieWilson
      @KylieWilson 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@matthewdaley746 i went there last month for a short trip and everyone was so nice to me and made me feel welcome

    • @matthewdaley746
      @matthewdaley746 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@KylieWilson Yeah, they have this feeling of boundless optimism, I have no idea what it springs from, I guess they think things can't, possibly, get, worse, as they've survived, so, much.

    • @matthewdaley746
      @matthewdaley746 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@stonegasman3866 Seemingly, through, blackmail, apparently.

  • @moviesmemesandstuff2759
    @moviesmemesandstuff2759 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I'm so glad both Robert Pattinson and Kristen Stewart found a way to fix their careers after this franchise. Hell, even back in the Twilight days, I was one of the people who always thought these two were both great actors and deserved better, so I'm glad to see it finally paying off in the last few years.
    As for Taylor Lautner..... I still don't know what to think of the guy, even to this day. He just kinda.... disappeared after the Twilight saga ended. You don't really see him that much anymore today. Does that mean he'll make a big comeback somewhere down the road? I don't know. But if he ever does, let's hope it's for the better.

    • @matthewdaley746
      @matthewdaley746 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      For him, this series, was, far, less, a, ruination, and, more, a, mercy-killing, otherwise.

    • @tristanhartup4936
      @tristanhartup4936 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I've only heard that Lautner did a couple of Adam Sandler movies and a stint on a British sitcom but not much else.

    • @matthewdaley746
      @matthewdaley746 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@tristanhartup4936 The, suffering, wasn't, prolonged.

  • @TheFLAMEXD
    @TheFLAMEXD 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    I don't really blame Peter Jackson for how The Hobbit turned out. When you consider the kind of hell the behind-the-scenes was, it's a miracle Hobbit even saw the light of day.

    • @coolnerdlll6053
      @coolnerdlll6053 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Well, I love Desolation and the other two were okay, so it wasn't a huge loss.

    • @jbvader721
      @jbvader721 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      "Why does it hurt so much?"
      "Because it was studio mandated-I mean, because it was real."

    • @naamadossantossilva4736
      @naamadossantossilva4736 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      That trilogy irritates me on a personal level because there was more material.Aragorn's journeys as Thorongil could have been the third movie.

    • @erichfiedler1481
      @erichfiedler1481 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      At least the extended cuts were better

  • @gracekim25
    @gracekim25 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    The one thing I'm thankful for Twilight for is you being on youtube and the meme moments from this film series

    • @theanonymouscritic1710
      @theanonymouscritic1710 หลายเดือนก่อน

      If that’s the case, that’s a shame because his reviews are dishonest, unfunny trash that have nothing interesting to say about the films and you must have serious brain damage.

  • @brandyloutherback9288
    @brandyloutherback9288 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    The best part of the saga is Rosalie being over Bella's crap!

  • @leonardodavi2695
    @leonardodavi2695 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I tried to read the Twilight book (key word here being "tried") and to be honest, defining Meyer's writing as "challenging" was a pretty big courtesy on your part.

  • @Yumifreak3
    @Yumifreak3 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Hello! Looong time viewer, rare time commenter.
    Thank you for providing much needed insight to movies I haven’t or have seen, and being a great source of entertainment for us, your viewers, for many years.
    I remember enjoying the Twilight reviews especially, given how much of a “Twilight hater” I was back in the day. But after seeing your reviews of 50 Shades of Gray and how much of a rip off of Twilight it was, it really gave me a whole new appreciation for the Twilight saga and more so for Robert Pattinson’s acting career (hearing his acting was incredibly limited in the film series). And I want to thank you for providing such insight on both sides. Because I’ve totally missed the merits Twilight had when my views were completely clouded with “worst love story ever”.
    Even more so considering this is one of my sister’s favorite franchises that I would shoot down a lot as a kid, but now feel myself pleasantly willing to join in on her movie nights and enjoy it for what it is, and appreciate it for being such a unique film that got many budding actors their start, and for providing laughs when things in the films don’t make sense.
    Thank you for doing this retrospective, Smeghead!

  • @SiRenfield
    @SiRenfield 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    My only guess as to why conservatives haven’t gone after Twilight in recent times is ,as many have pointed out, the series contains some subtle but pretty noticeable Mormon propaganda so I guess that part “balances” it out

    • @whenfatkillsfat803
      @whenfatkillsfat803 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      And it’s pro submissive women message regarding Bella.

    • @SiRenfield
      @SiRenfield 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@whenfatkillsfat803 Pretty much what I was getting at

    • @tristanhartup4936
      @tristanhartup4936 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      I remember hearing from another video that the Volturi in the series is essentially a vampiric version of the Vatacan, this series is pretty much like Mormonism vs. Catholicism

    • @louisduarte8763
      @louisduarte8763 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@tristanhartup4936 Would that make Aro and his minions the Vampiric Inquisition?

    • @jbvader721
      @jbvader721 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@louisduarte8763 "Nobody expects the Vampiric Inquisition!" Ah, it doesn't have the same ring to it.

  • @dirufanboy1971
    @dirufanboy1971 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    STILL Team Moustache Dad.

  • @Fatamorgana420
    @Fatamorgana420 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The "I like watching you sleep" would be funny if I was able to get any quality sleep. Seriously, how am I not certified basket case given my sleep patterns? Oh wait...

  • @kingsford3657
    @kingsford3657 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    0:02 as soon as it popped up, I immediately heard this line in AB’s voice from the final scene in Episode 50.

  • @arvinroidoatienza7082
    @arvinroidoatienza7082 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    15:52 Pattinson didn't call out that one. While filming Twilight, Meyer gave him a draft of Midnight Sun, basically Twilight in Edward's perspective, so Pattinson already knew at that time about Edward's backstory. Midnight Sun also includes a moment where he contemplates killing Bella and them her classmate ace murder style and well...we can't really blame Pattinson for hating the character.

  • @IsraelLlerena
    @IsraelLlerena 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I remember first seeing your episodes on the movies so many years ago and it’s so cool to hear you add more recent references into this video. This is so cool!

  • @theunwelcome
    @theunwelcome 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    "next time we'll look at a terrible anthology comedy movie. It can't be worse than The Underground Comedy Movie... can it?" it took me this long to realize what amazing foreshadowing that was!

  • @Hewylewis
    @Hewylewis 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Actually, according to werewolf folklore, werewolves are just people who turn into wolves, and they can do so at will and at any time of day. Hollywood invented the whole "can only change at the full moon" thing. So... Twilight actually got it right, surprisingly.

    • @erichfiedler1481
      @erichfiedler1481 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      That is interesting, which means Wolf Children and Wolfwalkers are better films with werewolves than Twilight, I'm not wrong

    • @Hewylewis
      @Hewylewis 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@erichfiedler1481 You're not wrong. It's just surprising that Twilight got the werewolf mythology somewhat right.

    • @georgeray1906
      @georgeray1906 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Well to be fair wolves are nocturnal creatures so it somewhat makes a lot of sense for people become werewolves by the full moon and if there's people who can turn into wolves at will in any time of day then the full moon could amplify their strength.

  • @starwarsgeek3339
    @starwarsgeek3339 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I’ve been a dedicated fan since the Eragon review. You’re videos bring me so much joy and entertainment, and I feel I need to repay the favor in some way. In case this guy isn’t on your radar, I highly recommend you watch a Neil Breen movie! His films are peak so-bad-it’s-good!

  • @TheHeroOfTomorrow
    @TheHeroOfTomorrow 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    One good thing is that you're almost done with the Worst Picture Project--just 10 more to go. (Possibly 11 if this lasts long enough.)

  • @toecutterjones
    @toecutterjones 2 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    Michael Sheen should be in every post credits scene.

  • @roberttreacy8271
    @roberttreacy8271 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    24:47 What about Last Ounce of Courage? That came out in 2012, and that didn’t get one Razzie nomination.

    • @antibishonen
      @antibishonen 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Yeah, it's that forgettable (thankfully). I rather deal with that than 'that' Sandler 'comedy movie'.

  • @RazorRex
    @RazorRex 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I'm liking these revisiting reviews.

    • @biggeek2256
      @biggeek2256 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Oh hey! I didn't know you also watch Smeaghead

    • @coolnerdlll6053
      @coolnerdlll6053 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      There's three more to go: Saving Christmas plus retrospectives of the Fifty Shades and Fantastic Four series.

    • @RazorRex
      @RazorRex 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@biggeek2256 Nice to see you too didn’t know who had a YT channel.

  • @scipioafricanus5871
    @scipioafricanus5871 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I am glad they didn't go with the creepy doll... because that would've been instant nightmare fuel right there.

    • @jbvader721
      @jbvader721 ปีที่แล้ว

      M3GAN has entered the chat.

    • @scipioafricanus5871
      @scipioafricanus5871 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@jbvader721 Annabelle: Am I a joke to you?

  • @alexanderklepp
    @alexanderklepp 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Nice job on this Twilight retrospective. I actually agree that I think Twilight got more hatred than it deserved especially towards Kristen Stewart who thankfully has gone on to earn a lot more respect and better films. Same goes for Robert Pattinson as he was a great Batman. I'm very excited for the next CE as it will be the first one in a while that won't be a second look. The question is how much hatred will it get from you?

  • @rbfloat
    @rbfloat 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Is it just me or does Stephanie Myers seem incapable of writing a healthy relationship? Like it's worrying that Twilight doesn't have a single relationship that is healthy

  • @c0mf0rta61ynum6
    @c0mf0rta61ynum6 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    17:51 Another reason Republicans wouldn't call that "grooming" is because Renesmee fits the ideal age range of the kind of people they are most into. Just ask Matt Gaetz!

    • @liampatrick3110
      @liampatrick3110 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      At least Republicans don't refer to pedophiles as MAPs!!

  • @roberttreacy8271
    @roberttreacy8271 2 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    8:14 Aro’s laugh never fails to amuse me.

  • @thecratfywonderworld6910
    @thecratfywonderworld6910 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    This is your first reviewed movie ever.... it's like heaven watching u talk about it again xd

  • @thefantasticretroreviewer3941
    @thefantasticretroreviewer3941 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    9:34, This shot right here, he almost looks like Dr. Frank-N-Furter from The Rocky Horror Picture Show for some reason.

  • @TomMSTie1138
    @TomMSTie1138 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Michael Sheen's O face: thank you Smeg Head, for finding something that makes my skin crawl more than the Imprinting.😫

  • @THECRAZY320
    @THECRAZY320 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I’ll be interested to see what movie 43 brings to this series. Georg rockall Schmidt did a good job reviewing it

    • @MrChaotic4
      @MrChaotic4 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Sure, Movie 43 pissed me off, but that's what it was trying to do, so I can only get so mad about that.

  • @michaeloconnor5904
    @michaeloconnor5904 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    "In the words of Han Solo, 'this is where the fun begins'".
    Me: It's an older code, sir, but it checks out.

  • @slambangaction
    @slambangaction 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I still find it baffling that David Slade, the director of Eclipse, just three years earlier made one of the best vampire films of all time (in my opinion), 30 Days of Night. If you want genuinely creepy, intelligent bloodsuckers in a true horror setting (you know, the genre that vampires are SUPPOSED to be from), then you can't do much better than that film.

    • @jbvader721
      @jbvader721 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      It falls down once again to the source material Slade was working with. 30 Days of Night was based on a pretty decent comic book series that had a great concept (the vampires not only have shark-like fangs all over their teeth but speak their own language). And Twilight was well...Twilight.

  • @SubvertHQSG
    @SubvertHQSG 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Obi-Wan Jabroni. Priceless.

  • @kayatuschling8706
    @kayatuschling8706 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    09:24 OMG I watched Michael Sheen as Nero years ago and I've been looking for that line for years!!

  • @NuclearLemonade
    @NuclearLemonade ปีที่แล้ว +1

    To be fair, the Oscars showered Return of the King with awards (including Best Picture) to “honor the entire trilogy”. You could argue the Razzies did likewise for Breaking Dawn Part 2.

  • @antibishonen
    @antibishonen 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    24:24 Holy Edward Batman, you finally mention the Razzies snub DragonBall the movie.

  • @shainewhite2781
    @shainewhite2781 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Oh, YES!!! Have not seen one of these in a while .

  • @poker8100
    @poker8100 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Why the prodigal son has returned

  • @johnockershausen3951
    @johnockershausen3951 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Woof, Movie 43. A very strong contender for worst film of the decade. I suppose its main competition would be Hilary's America, Fifty Shades of Grey, and in some circles (including this channel) Cats

  • @charliemijatovic8562
    @charliemijatovic8562 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    If you want to see Sheen in a role basically made for him check his portrayal of Kenneth Williams in Fantabulosa

  • @NinaEinstein2006
    @NinaEinstein2006 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Did you know that before Summit Entertainment got the film rights to the franchise it was originally pitched to Paramount Pictures & MTV Films early in its production?

  • @bluebethlehem
    @bluebethlehem 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Nikki Reed can act, she was in the movie *THIRTEEN*

  • @2TCHOLMES
    @2TCHOLMES ปีที่แล้ว +1

    13:52 I know this isn’t relevant to Twilight, but I stand by what I said previously: I think splitting Deathly Hallows into two movies was a good idea. The two movies together clock in at 276 mins, which is a four-and-a-half hours. If they’d tried to make it three hours for one movie, that would’ve meant either cutting out even more from the book (potentially leaving important questions and conflicts unresolved), drastically changing the story or have the pacing be set on fast forward. I honestly cannot imagine how they could fit everything into one movie.

  • @Genethagenius
    @Genethagenius ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Pattinson KILLED it as Batman! I was seriously surprised, but have to give him all the respect now.

  • @bubbles581
    @bubbles581 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Ok i thought breaking dawn part 2 was the best one lol i LOOOOVVVEEDDD the way the end of the fight happened

  • @das81
    @das81 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    In Argentina those novels were like The plague. Even their knock offs were popular... Ugh.

  • @jib7026
    @jib7026 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    In fact a merge between new moon and eclipse, would actually be a better film than new moon & eclipse on their own.

  • @ethal1222
    @ethal1222 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Anyone else notice that Henry Creel/001/Vecna is one of the members of the vampiric council?

    • @jbvader721
      @jbvader721 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Well, Stranger Things have happened. Heh heh. I'll see myself out.

  • @JohnSmith-qn3ob
    @JohnSmith-qn3ob 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Now we have to wait another 2 months before we get the next CE episode

  • @davidcopplestone6266
    @davidcopplestone6266 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Love the T-shirt!

  • @Betta66
    @Betta66 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Did you intentionally misattribute a Star Wars quote? Either way, I hope the Star Wars fans don't find your address.

    • @dvass7253
      @dvass7253 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      He didn't. Han did say it in A New Hope when the Falcon was leaving Tatooine and the Star Destroyers showed up, but it was Anakin who popularized it in Revenge of the Sith. And admittedly, Anakin said it better.

  • @filmunion8194
    @filmunion8194 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Alexander Sig -Magneto
    Michael Sheen- Professor X

  • @estebannoguera7126
    @estebannoguera7126 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    The people in this movie deserve better.
    Also Charly is the best character.

  • @delaneymiller5822
    @delaneymiller5822 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    God Movie 43 is next. That was like part 1 of a double tap of terrible anthology comedies that year with The 2nd being InAPPropriate comedy (how that didn't tie I will never know).

  • @AlexSpalex1
    @AlexSpalex1 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    19:40 I always thought the puppet version looked liked what happen if you tried to make a human out of a King Spaniel.

  • @jeanpablodelizdavila3456
    @jeanpablodelizdavila3456 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    For those wondering what were the other Worst Picture nominees aside from That’s My Boy
    BattleShip
    The Oogieloves in the Big Balloon Adventure
    A Thousand Words
    I’m surprised One for the Money wasn’t nominated along with several other awful movies that released that year.

    • @thecinematicmind
      @thecinematicmind 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      The Oogieloves easily, once seen you can't unseen.

    • @michaelstrong5383
      @michaelstrong5383 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I forgot how many crappy films was released that year. If not for Twilight, I can see Oogieloves or That's My Boy winning the Razzie.

    • @coolnerdlll6053
      @coolnerdlll6053 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I've only seen Sean's reviews for all of those, but I can't see how he thinks That's My Boy was worse than Oogieloves. At least That's My Boy was a professionally made movie.

    • @thecinematicmind
      @thecinematicmind 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@coolnerdlll6053 Oogieloves really should had won Worst Cast by a landslide.

    • @jeanpablodelizdavila3456
      @jeanpablodelizdavila3456 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@coolnerdlll6053 Sean never compared the 1997 nominees, but I think Batman and Robin was the Worst Picture of 1997 by a landslide.

  • @JenMistress
    @JenMistress 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I just now noticed something I didn't notice before, your second look videos didn't have numbers on them. How did I notice it now? I have a playlist of your Cinematic Excrement videos on TH-cam, mostly because they do make me laugh, but I was wanting to make sure I had all the recent ones, so went to check by numbers. It was then I realized this is 137, and 136 was Transformers The Movie, 2nd Looks of Last Airbender and Jack and Jill didn't have numbers. Thinking that's odd, decided to scroll up, and sure enough, found it again, Gigli 130 and Dirty Love 131, where as 2nd Look Catwoman, no number, then again with Surviving Christmas 127, Freddy Got Fingered 128 with 2nd Look Battlefield Earth no number. Guess you've been doing it that way all along, and I just now noticed it. 😂🤣 Anyways, thank you, Sean, like I said, whole reason I made the playlist is you make me laugh, which does help.

  • @xgray2012
    @xgray2012 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Well, I guess it's safe to say that the Devil's Film porno parody of the Twilight saga are more enjoyable to watch than the actual movies, themselves.

  • @suzialvesdecarvalhogarcia5016
    @suzialvesdecarvalhogarcia5016 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    i can´t find the Dungeons and Dragons episode. So sad, is my favorite.
    PS: I love you channel!!!!! Hugs from Brazil!!!!

  • @BrandonCroker
    @BrandonCroker 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Ahh, a simpler time when vampires sparkled and wolves were shirtless most of the time…

  • @globetrekker86
    @globetrekker86 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    But, Sean, you said Edward is physically attracted to Bella. Ergo, his desire to *eat* her makes perfect sense

  • @slashermaster28
    @slashermaster28 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Movie 43 is next. Oh boy. I hope there is at least some mention of how that's basically the Action 52 of movies, what with it being named after the number of segments it has and all of them being garbage. I've never seen a single reviewer make that connection before.

  • @HD_Segal
    @HD_Segal 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    August 2022: "Movie 43"
    September 2022: "Saving Christmas" (2nd Look)
    October 2022: "Fantastic Four" and "Fifty Shades of Grey" (2nd Looks)
    November 2022: "Hillary's America: The Secret History of the Democratic Party (2nd Look)
    December 2022: "The Emoji Movie"
    January 2023: "Holmes & Watson"
    February 2023: "Cats"
    March 2023: "Absolute Proof"
    April 2023: "Diana the Musical"
    May 2023: Worst Picture Razzie winner released in 2022

    • @antibishonen
      @antibishonen 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Would not be surprised if he'll hold Saving Christmas for December.
      It's a scapegoat not to review A Madea Christmas.
      Would also not be surprised if Fifty Shades (retrospective) would be on February.

    • @tristanhartup4936
      @tristanhartup4936 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I imagine Fant4stic and Fifty Shades would be separate videos, plus the Fifty Shades video would also be a retrospectic seeing as how he had reviewed both Fifty Shades Of Grey and Fifty Shades Darker in the past but has yet to review Fifty Shades Freed.

  •  7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    The reason why the first Twilight was blue-tinted is because it's set in the Pacific Northwest where everything is perpetually overcast. I should know. It's like films and shows being yellow-tinted because it's set in the Southwest, where everything is perpetually sunny. Again, I should know.

    • @theanonymouscritic1710
      @theanonymouscritic1710 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Silly observation really.

    •  6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@theanonymouscritic1710 Well, it's true. "Untraceable" is set in Portland and it's also blue-tinted.

    • @theanonymouscritic1710
      @theanonymouscritic1710 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      No I meant that the complaint Smeghead was making about the blue tint was silly.

  • @politicscommentator
    @politicscommentator 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I recommend watching Cinema Therapy's take on the Twilight films. They do a good job analyzing from a film and psychology aspect.

  • @Digilady99
    @Digilady99 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank GOD Kristen Stewart and Robert Pattinson went on to do better projects and further their careers. Pattinson is now an iconic comic book hero and Stewart became an Oscar nominated actress for portraying Princess Diana.

    • @jbvader721
      @jbvader721 ปีที่แล้ว

      One of the rare occasions where I'm glad to live in the Twilight Zone.

  • @ssoory6343
    @ssoory6343 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    These movies look like somebody spilled their liquid detergent on the camera lens and no one gave a shit about cleaning it.

  • @StormCrownSr
    @StormCrownSr ปีที่แล้ว +1

    10:47 no no, on this one the story is right. Edward took her mate, so she wants to take his.
    That makes perfect sense, at least to me.

  • @kiprandom7208
    @kiprandom7208 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Pattinson is in a really good movie called Good Time. Its like a really bad night in the life of decent guy in bad situation. I was shocked it was the twilight guy

  • @louisduarte8763
    @louisduarte8763 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    12:43 I think, by that point, the "teen-targeted supernatural romance/dystopia books into movies" gravy train ran out of steam. Especially since Woodley has even less charisma than Stewart.
    12:53 I thought splitting The Hobbit into 3 movies was the studio's idea.
    15:55 Can't wait for your 50 Shades Retrospective.
    19:42 Welcome to my Nightmares/Excuses to drink heavily"!
    22:29 A lot of Doctor Who plots get resolved by just talking it out, and those get HEAPS of praise.

    • @jbvader721
      @jbvader721 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      On the clusterf** that was the "Hobbit" trilogy, my first thought was, "Didn't Lindsay Ellis dedicate an entire video essay trilogy on that very subject matter?"