I love how the Onceler repeats what the Lorax says: “My biggering is triggering more biggering”, he’s actively acknowledging his flaws and does nothing to stop them, even encouraging them
To him they weren't flaws, but rather natural consequences of success, and envigorating ones on top of that. It's hard to correct a flaw when it's making you feel good
Love the change from "I must keep biggering" to "I won't stop biggering". He is becoming aware of his acts, changing his views on them, they aren't an obligation (I must) they are his will (I won't stop)
The Oncler told Ted “How Bad Can I Be?” because Ted was a child. “Biggering” being reality shows how adults will “Snuff Out The Light” of the true stories with darker and more realistic morals to “Tune Out” the next generation. For example, The Brothers Grimm’s stories are constantly changed over the years. Nobody really remembers how it really happened unless you read the true stories (which are either thrown out or dusted under the rugs of life).
"How Bad Can I Be?" is the story that the real life "Oncelers" aka. investors in the movie want tou to think about them, and "Biggering" is the cold hard truth they don't want you to hear.
What makes this cooler is that instead of "trees" it's "things" that he says are dying, meaning that he knows the greater-scale impact of his deforestation, endangering the lives of innocent creatures. It truly makes him a villain
Except that wasn't the point of the original. He wasn't trying to be evil he just wanted to capitalize on his neat idea. He was oblivious to the fact that creatures were dying not doing it intentionally. But by the time he figured out what he was doing his greed was too big.
@@Spiralredd he wasn't trying to be evil, sure. He was acting on his greed while not caring about the devastating effects on the eco system though. I think I'd call that quite evil. Evil people don't view themselves as evil. They do what they think is the correct thing, but their view of the world is warped by hate and greed, so they are actually commiting atrocities.
@@Idkpleasejustletmechangeitit wasn't him not caring it was him being oblivious like I said. And by the time he realized what he was doing he was too far gone
@@Spiralredd he'd be pretty fucking stupid if he was unable to realise the effect his actions have despite having two perfectly functioning eyes. You don't just accidentally turn the entire world into a wasteland. How would that even work? " *trips* *entire world turns into wasteland* oops! " Is that how it happens?
That line really gets you thinking like, he will do anything to be up and beyond, he doesn’t care who and what gets hurt. That’s what I see in this broken villain.
You also gotta remember, it’s not few, its some, there are more things dying to his hands than nature itself can take, and all that’s left to show for it is the snickering grin upon the Onecelors face
I love how the *hands* are sending Onceler up to the sky, instead of him growing. His company didn’t grow on its own, the reason he got as big as he did was because of his humongous fanbase. He knows he can get away with everything because his fans will defend and support him no matter what, and THIS is what ALSO triggers his biggering.
I even thought of an extension of that idea where the gloves descending on a healthy valley before grabbing the tree tufts which turn into thneeds and deteriorate in their hands
I really hope that the similarities to the late 70’s Pink Floyd albums in that part are intentional cus the sound, themes, and all around vibe perfectly match them
@@lamdontknow1547 I saw someone say on another video that How Bad Can I Be is the Onceler being an unreliable narrator and Biggering is how it really went down.
They made a huge mistake cutting this song... It's one of the best villain songs I've heard. I don't care if it's "anti-corporate" or "too scary for kids" it's actually true to the story. Also great storyboard
@@capitanaless1o493 i think there was 100% a way they could have implemented both songs to show the progression of the onceler's greed. going from "what i'm doing isn't so bad" to "im dont care what im doing i need everything"
@@stickguyy yeah like we get "how bad" and by the end of that song his family is like "we're running out of trees" then a few minutes later we get "biggering" which ends on a shot of the wasteland he left, at which point he realizes he fucked up
The army of green gloves is not only really cool imagery, it’s also an excellent reference to how only the Onceler’s arms were ever shown in the original book. Great work!
I also love the way it feels like it represents the vices the Lorax warned the Onceler of cultivating: Greed and pride. Greed: they reach out in all directions to grab and take for him as he keeps wanting more if not it all. Nowhere is safe from his reach. If it is something he wants or can get him what he wants, he'll take it and nothing can stop him now. Pride: they raise and elevate him higher and higher as his ego grows with his profits, till he's looking down on those he once saw as friends and now views as in his way, they and everyone else are now beneath him figuratively and literally from where he stands, now.
@@drippyneco9419 yeah I noticed it looked like one of those nazi propaganda posters. It’s interesting how this animatic portrays that as the onceler was growing so did a fascistic following grow around him. It’s seen in his employees and the crowd near the end too
OMG I just had the thought, wouldn't it be fucking awesome if the office was actually pristine white and monochrome, but as the song goes on, the inside of the building gets more and more red, until the line "a company's an animal" where everything inside is just red and green. Showing how the onceler, in his green suit representing pride, acts as a parasite inside the corporation, representing greed and literally inside the belly of the beast. I absolutely love the parallelism
This puts "how bad can I be" to shame. And I aslo like that he knows what he is doing to the environment, unlike the original he only recognizes untill the last tree, so this makes him a real villain.
"AND I'LL KEEP BIGGERING! AND THERES NOTHING YOU CAN DO TO STOP ME!" "there it is... The last one... That's whats gonna stop you" "What have I done?..."
I'd like to think he'd still have that last moment realization though, as he's at his peak, he sees the one thing that will destroy his company for good. realizing the lorax was right
@@fusionwing4208 yea, kinda like I 1972. It'd be more like the story. Like, with 2012 I genuinely believe he felt bad for destroying the forest. In 1972, it's like a realization as well, but not a "oh, dang I destroyed everything" more like "oh, dang, I'm not on top anymore" same like how it could be for biggering
Too bad schools only care about pushing kids to pass exams for content they won't even remember afterwards. It's just a competition of memory and another toxic practicality of capitalism.
wow that visual of all the hands reaching out with the "WHO CARES IF, SOME THINGS ARE DYIIIING!" was really good this definitely stands as one of the best visualizations of the song
The green hands, or rather what looks to be his own hands reaching out could be a symbolism of ego warps the perception of reality, or, meaning to symbolize how the customers and consumers are just as greedy and capable of greed as he is, because they're in fact the ones destroying the environment through him
Here’s the thing. I like How Bad Can I Be? It’s a glitzy pop song that showcases the PR campaigns to sanitize the company’s image, eventually starting to show the darkness underneath and is scary in its own right. The problem is that when it comes to the Onceler, it’s not played as a front; it’s played straight. It shows the Onceler getting caught up in his own messaging and being stunned at the end when the last tree is chopped down. Canonically, the Onceler has deniability. He doesn’t realize what he’s doing until it’s too late. It’s the exact sort of thing CEOs hide behind every time they do something horrible, and that’s the problem. This song, on the other hand, shows the Onceler knowing everything he’s doing and the impact of it. The movie is good, but if not for corporate meddling, it could have been incredible.
Exactly I wouldn't care about How Bad Can I Be if we also had Biggering afterwards to contrast with it and show that the first one is just a facade, but the fact they cut it and tried to make the Onceler a quirky figure that is good and doesn't realize he does bad is just ....... talk about misunderstanding the source material and making a much less compelling villain as a result. I just love the characterization Biggering does, yes he isn't fully aware of the weight of his actions, but he's still aware that he is doing something bad and willingly chooses to ignore it to pursue his own hubris. We were robbed of one of the greatest villain songs, Biggering would honestly have saved the movie and it's messaging (not 100% but it still would have improved it so massively it's not even funny)
That imagery of the once ler being lifted up by his fans and consumers wearing those iconic green gloves is brilliant. It shows how much his ego has grown. And it makes it even more crushing when the last tree gets cut down.
Woah can't believe I found this masterpiece by going down a rabbit hole about Lorax critiques. AMAZING work. It's so sad that Illumination scrapped biggering from the final product, but if they put it in then amazing fan works like this never would have come to existence, so for that I'm grateful.
It's probably a worthy sacrifice in order to get a good Lorax movie that respects the original book, presents the message the book had to give but for newer generations, and even does a better job at teaching the lesson the book already does a great job teaching by not only making The once-ler really be someone the audience can relate to and feel like it could easily be them going through the same things as the once-ler, but also showing how the companies and billionaires aren't the only ones to blame, but also the people who consume all of these products that destroy nature in order to produce (sometimes even in order to use), supporting and incentivating the companies to keep fabricating it regardless of it's consequences, by having O'hare and thneedvile citizens as a whole exist. Yes, literally having the movie as a whole be the same and just inserting this music on the point how bad can i be would usually play would not fix it, but you need to consider that biggering was made for a very different lorax movie as you can see it even more by listening to all of the other scrapped songs made for the movie, so if Ilumination was willing to let Biggering in, they probably would also be willing to do the whole movie as it was originally intended. In fact, this hypothetic scenario would probably also have a really different Ilumination that actually cares for the quality of their content, just like the Ilumination that did the first Despicable me (I know Ilumination didn't completely change from despicable me to the Lorax movie in terms of the people who work on it, but i mean that Ilumination was clearly going for different things when doing the first despicable me than most of their other movies), or maybe it would just take a little longer for them to start to choose profit over quality, and then we would have maybe, like, 3 good Ilumination movies instead of 1 Damn i wrote a lot more than i anticipated
As an eight year old kid in 2012, I absolutely loved How Bad Can I Be? As a nineteen year old adult in 2023, I realize Biggering is superior in every way.
Igual, mi yo de chiquito amaba esta canción, unos 3 años después me olvide de la existencia de esta película, después me acordé por los memes que se hacen con la canción de" Cuán malo puedo ser?"(How bad can I be, pongo esto por qué no se si se tradusca bien) y me sigue gustando mucho la canción, pero Biggering, me deja sin palabras
Here’s the thing. I like How Bad Can I Be? It’s a glitzy pop song that showcases the PR campaigns to sanitize the company’s image and is scary in its own right. The problem is that it’s not played as a front; it’s played straight. It shows the Onceler getting caught up in his own messaging and being stunned at the end when the last tree is chopped down. Canonically, the Onceler has deniability. He doesn’t realize what he’s doing until it’s too late. It’s the exact sort of thing CEOs hide behind every time they do something shitty, and that’s the problem.
@_somerandomguyontheinternet_ I honestly just like Biggering more because he knows what he's doing is wrong, but doesn't care, which is how a lot of companies are like. And because it's got that awesome ending to it. 🤩
Everyone is begging for a proper full fledged animation for this song. It's robbery that it never made the cut because Illumination execs thought it was "too dark."
They didn't think it was too dark. That was just an excuse in my opinion. I think what they really didn't like was how it hit too close to home and made it seem like the Onceler wasn't the sweet innocent little man that was manipulated into bad deeds by his family that "How Bad Can I be" made him out to be
@@thallium.81 Yet one thing people forget is that, a sweet innocent person can be their own worst manipulator, by letting their gluttony run like wildfire.
The hands symbolising the people's good word for him and love for him lifting him up and raising him on a pedestal of his own destruction is so amazing and well done
The symbolism in this is top notch. I love the animals running away from the profit arrow, and the multitude of green gloves. The latter shows that it’s really not JUST the Oncler’s fault: it was also the system that allowed him to do it. I also love the “Too big to Fail” picture as well. I keep finding more perfectly placed small details each time I rewatch. Great work!
I agree. I do have an analysis that it’s not really the factory that was bad, just the greed and the imbalance behind the onclers goals. If the oncler planted seeds for everyone he cut down, or invented a device to harvest the material, or have his own tree grove within the factory to harvest material, then it’s help the environment and keep the economy going. Then again, we wouldn’t have the Lorax story we know today.
@@savannahhague4989 Indeed. Once-ler's mistake was his pride, he genuinely thought his company just couldn't fail, after all, it was so successful, no way he would just, ya know, run out of resources with the way he recklessly was harvesting the trees for the thneeds
And if that isn't made clear...look at the painting of the Once-ler where it says "too big to fail". That's the mentality Once-ler himself had, both in HBCIB and Biggering
@@savannahhague4989 Well the Lorax is also a critique of the inherent flaw of "unlimited production, limited resources", which we see in the world to this day. There is realistically nothing the Onceler could have done to stop the general course of the trees, because if he cuts down on his production he loses revenue and if profits go down then shareholders lose confidence, and it also may open the window for competitors to come in who may or may not care being sustainable.
Probably one of my favorite differences about both songs is that in “How Bad Can I Be?” The Onceler says ”Who cares if some trees are dying?” Whereas in “Biggering” he says “Who cares if some THINGS are dying?” The difference being that the Onceler in the cut version is far more aware of his actions than he was in “How Bad Can I Be?” and is fully aware that it isn’t just trees that are dying from what he is doing.
I love how here 3:13 the poster says “To Big To Fail” showing how companies think once a product is selling well. It doesn’t matter the negative effect that come out of it or anything else cause the company thinks and is so high on ego they believe it can’t fail no matter what happens.
Everything looks so complete and clean, you even kept the cuteness of the Once-Ler while leaving no doubt of his sins, by bringing this song to life. The shot angles and cuts truly make this for me. I love your art style, and this deserves all the love it can get and more!
The image of the Once-Ler gloved hands being the crowd is by far the most impactful image. Although the Once-Ler in the past was meant to be a stand in for big business, it also overlooked the other side of the coin; the people who enable them by buying their products. Especially now a days with some corporations having such a large customer base it's at points hard to solely blame the faceless company. The Lorax move could've really benefited from the message saying that "Yes, YOU can become a Once-Ler if you fall to greed". Instead they went with car commercials, pancake ads, and removing the song that would wrap it all up.
I feel as if Illumination shouldn’t have been put in charge of making this movie based on Seuss' work. Maybe it should’ve been a different studio. One that actually cared about the book's timeless message.
@@worthybutter2004, maybe Studio Ghibli could’ve been in charge of making The Lorax? If they could make a movie adaption of Howl’s Moving Castle with gorgeous animation and an amazing English dub voice cast, I think they could’ve done The Lorax right.
@@worthybutter2004 , I mean, I do remember Studio Ghibli having one movie known as Tales From Earthsea that had a villain with no sympathy or tragic backstory. That’s just my opinion but if you suggest any more animated studios, let me know on the double because I’m actually one of the many people who actually WANT this song to have a scene.
You have got to appreciate the audio symbolism when the Lorax is talking. There's a literal choir singing behind him throughout his speech because he is PREACHING to the Onceler.
I really like this video. It really helps to realize that "Biggering" is definitely better than "How bad can I be". Because it reveals all the potential that this song had.
I absolutely love how the Onceler walks away from the Lorax as he’s trying to save him, then has security drag him off. It perfectly represents how soulless and punishing of good people corporates are, and how the Onceler knows what he’s doing is wrong but is unwilling to listen or even care. Both the song animation paint him as an actual villain and not some lanky kid who did an oopsie and damn near ruined the entire planet
This could've easily been one of the best villain songs in animation. It's sad because I feel that the once-ler had potential to be a good and interesting antagonist but sadly this was made by illumination.
@@marcelasaenz713Mario movie was trash what you mean they made Luigi into a bit@h boy under his brother and they only do something with him in the very end, super lazy writing
It was in the original plans of the film that the boy was materialistic and consumerist at first, but upon hearing the story of the onceler his vision changes.
@@_somerandomguyontheinternet_ Not only did they remove the letters that showed materialism, they also removed the letters that reflected that the city was a dystopia, mentioning things like they cannot see the sun, there is smoke, alarming chemicals, and they showed that the citizens were consumerists and were not naive to the pollution of the city, they even knew who was the cause by mentioning a hill with the name of its founder that they would turn it into a pizza chain and apparently Ted was originally going to be a spoiled and consumerist child who only wanted a tree because no one in the city city had one having selfish desires and who believed himself superior to others, among other things
covering his eyes with shadows once he really delves deep into biggering showing a loss of humanity but also showing a bit of the original movie's thing of having him be more faceless so he can be anyone
Oh, I love it! Once-ler is much more innocent here than I've seen in other "Biggering" animatics. Don't get me wrong, I think it's cool and shows how he didn't become this corporate monster in one second. Everything is so clean, and I just adore your style, especially how you drew his hair and face. Once-ler's movements are quite expressive, and the use of colours only adds to the overall picture of making the characters the main spotlight. You've done an outstanding job. Thank you.
Love the symbolism of the green arms representing his growing influence on the world around him and a neat reference to the book where he only see his arms.
This goes so incredibly hard. The whole feel of Biggering is captured perfectly both in the expressions of the characters and the general tone of the actions being taken. The Lorax specifically impressed me a lot, his body movement showed his anger and desperation for the Once-ler to realize the true weight of his actions. Also you kinda made him scary ngl.... Who knew a fluffy orange creature could have such an intense glare?
Already in the song it seems very serious, in some animatics sometimes the Lorax becomes a little scary especially when he says "pride" that part gave me chills, good job
Illumination seriously needs to make a 2nd movie about the lorax from the oncelers pov with this song in it. It starts out with how sheltered and alone the onceler was when he was younger and how that drove him to madness. With the new technology and advanced animation, it could be the greatest movie of the year.
the multiple hands reaching out and making way for the onceler's corporate ascendancy as a metaphor for the invisible hand driving market forces and carrying him to the (literal) top is brilliant. extremely inspired stuff in the last third, awesome work!
I love all the things with the onceler that the other comments have said, but something I especially love is how the Lorax is portrayed here. He knows there’s nothing he can do but talk. He’s not some all powerful guardian, he can’t send the fury of the forest after the onceler and send him packing. But he still *tries.* You can see it from the look of his eyes and how he moves in his speech, he is doing EVERYTHING he can to protect his home, the forest he exists to be the guardian of. He’s trying his absolute best to get through to the man he once viewed as someone he could possibly call a friend. His efforts aren’t just to save the forest, they’re to save a man from being consumed by his pride and greed. And yet, it’s not enough. But even after that, the Lorax tries. He evacuates as many animals as he can, even stands against him still in the face of his monstrous machines, unnatural heaps of metal that the Lorax could never hope to stop. And yet he still tries to save what he can, what little is left. And while he fails, it’s an amazing effort made by someone who could do nothing but talk. He’s lost, yes, but he saved every little thing he could. And yet at the end, when the onceler’s greed has caught up to him and he’s lost near everything he could use to keep his business going, the Lorax is still there. Not to say “I told you so”, but from the way he’s standing, because he feels sorry for the man. The man he once called a possible friend, who fell into a pit of greed, and didn’t even attempt to climb out of it, despite his best efforts to urge him to. But still, he’s there after all that. Just find it interesting how perfectly he’s portrayed here.
this is actually fucking amazing! i'd pay good money to see this fully animated. the shots are immaculately constructed, with such evocative visuals. i particularly love the hands carrying onceler, alluding to how the onceler was only shown as hands in the original book, kinda making it REALLY feel like the movie onceler is just another in the line represented by the book onceler. all the cuts to different things hes describing are also really good. i love the shot where his hat covers up the whole frame, almost like its his ego itself overpowering and consuming your sight. and honestly some of the implied differences in narrative in this compared to the film and books, and particularly the direction of making the onceler just anyone, kind of also elevate this. lorax seeming more like hes trying to save onceler kind of imply that in a wider narrative using this the writer could easily lean more into the "greed could overpower anyone you know" angle, which i feel is a rather interesting take on the same concept initially given by the lorax story. granted, though, thats just my reading. interesting tho overall, love this to bits!
no es cualquier proyecto escolar, ES UN PROYECTO ESCOLAR UNIVERTSITARIO EN LA UNIVERSIDAD DE ARTES DONDE ESTUDIO EDD GOULD EL CREADOR DE EDDSWORLD la primer vez que tengo 100 likes :D
its nice to see this song is getting the attention it deserves. It really is a shame it never saw the light of day. It really could have made the movie incredible with its powerful storytelling.
If this song was in the movie, it would be a different movie. This animation is seriously amazing, it is incredibly how well you were able to portray this song, with the Lorax having the classic moment when the hero gets thrown out of the villain's giant complex, while explaining to the villain all their problems and resonating with the villain too much for them to be at ease. The difference is that in this, the Onceler doesn't really give up, he gives into his thoughts and doesn't stop until his plans are finished. Really, I can't overstate how good this is.
En serio no entiendo: Cómo es que "la afición", "los fans", "los novatos" hagan mejor trabajo que los profesionales. Es la mejor animación que he visto de este rolón, es una de mis canciones favoritas y nadie había podido animarla con la justicia que lo hiciste. Felicidades, Mucho éxito
🔥 Yo te respondo esa pregunta: Si ves los storyboards oficiales del Lorax y comentarios de los creadores, ellos tenían una idea más compleja y madura para desarrollar la película. Y se notaba que sabían lo que hacían con solo echar un vistazo al arte oficial. Lo que pasó fue que los ejecutivos de Illumination les prohibieron y censuraron muchísimas cosas, y el resultado fue lo que obtuvimos. Toda una pena.
@@TedWiggins y sabiendo que esta es la segunda peli animada del estudio después de Mi villano favorito 1 (siendo una peli que a veces es madura) es triste como el estudio se alejó de lo que fue su primer peli y hicieron más películas con trama simplona.
"¿Cómo es que los fans hacen mejor trabajo que los profesionales?" Pues a la hora de hacer un proyecto como una película o una obra, los trabajadores tienen que ser supervisados por moderadores. Los fans en cambio tienen más libertad y se les permite más creatividad.
[Onceler] At first I didn't realize I needed all this stuff I had a little cottage And that cottage was enough A place where I could sit and knit A place where I could sell my Thneeds But now I've had a little time To re-assess my needs And I need a bigger office I need a bigger chair A bigger desk, a bigger staff A bigger hat to wear Because I'm biggering I'm figuring I'm biggering And biggering is triggering More biggering [Lorax] Hey, listen up, meathead I'm going to say this once, and I'm not gonna repeat it Greed ya see, it's like a little pet, alright? And the more and more and more that you go and feed it The more hungry it'll get But you know, you really can't blame greed No, that's stupid You see, it's gotta worm inside Oh yeah, that's right It's one that always needs to feed And it is never satisfied You get it? But the more you try to find it The more it likes to hide Now listen that is nasty little worm And I like to call it pride See, now that's why you're biggering Listen here, idiot I'm figuring on biggering But that biggering's just triggering more biggering Got that? Alright [Onceler] There is a principle of nature That most every creature knows It's called survival of the fittest And this is how it goes The animal that wins has got to Claw and kick and punch The animal that doesn't Winds up someone else's lunch A company's an animal That's trying to survive (survive) It's struggling, and fighting Just to keep itself alive I must keep biggering I'm figuring I'm biggering Though biggering is triggering more biggering I won't stop Biggering I'm figuring I'm biggering And biggering is triggering more biggering And the customers are buying And the money multiplying And the pr people lying And the lawyers are denying Who cares if some things are dying? I don't wanna hear your crying This is all so gratifying
I absolutely LOVE your incorporation of the green-gloved hands of the masses. It really drives in how much influence and power he’s gained over them and how their drone/sheep-like behavior has help enabled him to get to this point! INCREDIBLE job!
I really love how you drew this, especially the part where he calls in a security guard to come get the Lorax. It hits a lot harder because it's such a cold and impersonal method of dealing with someone who was once a friend, at least in this universe.
The absolute shivers that went over my entire body when I saw the crowd of green gloves. It's not just him, it's all of us also. Buying things we don't really need, but want, even at the cost of nature. His company couldn't grow if people didn't buy. Yeah some people might not be aware, but some most definitely are. Amazing imagery.
The biggering has so much potencial to make Lorax at least 60% better. I do like How bad can i be,but biggering actually reaches the issue along with original Onceler’s personality. This Is trurly amazing MV thank you! ❤️❤️
While I'll always have a soft spot for the animatic that introduced me to this song, I have to say that your animatic here is superior. The clean line work looks great, and you really made it look cinematic, with proper cuts, and dramatic angles and "camera positions". And the symbolic hands at the end were absolutely amazing, along with the rising profit line earlier, making it feel like it's taking some style from How Bad Could I Be's visuals, in that it's got some abstraction, non-literal visuals that help get the point across.
Lorax of 1972 had a dark vibe the colours and the designs and the best part that the ending isn't satisfying because ends with onceler giving the seed and it ends, it doesn't show Ted going to the town and making the trees grow again and it was on porpuse because explains that we need to do something. And the fact that the Once Ler doesn't have a face show that Once Ler was created to represent the companies as a whole. The 2012 version is fine but "The Lorax" is a book that would have an amazing adaptation, more darker, mature and realistic. Because the message that we're killing our planet hits hard when you realise that you're part of the problem, and Biggering shows me how much pontential it had.
This is not the only song eliminated, originally it was planned that the film would be darker and more faithful to the book, this due to the other original songs on the soundtrack that indicated a darker and more serious tone, the studio forced the scriptwriters to changing the entire movie to be children's, it was studio interference that ruined this movie and all the potential it had
@@estrella-om7tu I know, they originally were going to make Ted a selfish kid that wants a tree just because he wants everything, and and he would learn that being selfish was the reason that there wasn't anymore trees, but instaed made him a sassy teenager that wants to impress a girl.
@@Sub_marino Yes, also that Thneedville was going to be a dystopia where the citizens could not see the sun because of the pollution, the buildings were destroyed, everyone was aware but they became consumerist and materialistic, from here you can understand Ted's mentality, a hill is also mentioned named after the former founder of thneedville, which was the only thing that stayed the same but will be replaced by a pizza chain, this is on the thneedville demo song
I like that in your version we often don't see the Once-ler's face. In the original the Once-ler wasn't meant to be a person - he was meant to be a presentation of every person. We all could become a Once-ler, it wasn't a fault found in just one young man. It is a fault in humans pride over our ability to dominate our surrondings.
1:21 This speech would have offended EVERY company out there. One of the things Biggering has that How Bad Can I Be? doesn't is that it actually TALKS to the cooperate leaders. This speech literally says, "Yes, this is you. And these are the things that YOU did, and why you do it." Without this part, in the final part of the song where Once-ler says, "Who cares if some things are dying?" wouldn't have been as impactful as it was.
no me engañen, eso no es un proyecto escolar, eso es lo que presento alguien de illumination y ellos lo descartaron en favor de cuan malo puedo ser, de verdad parece profesional! increible es quedarse corto!
Me acuerdo cuando apenas salio y tenia como 20 mil vistas, y mira ahora, tiene más s de 1 millón de vistas. Me encantó, sobre todo como plasmas ese ambiente oscuro que combina con el instrumental
Something about the fact that, he knows what he’s doing wrong in this song, says something. In how bad can I be, he literally sings about how he doesn’t think he does anything wrong, and when he sees the last tree fall, he is HEARTBROKEN, just look at his face. In this song, he hears the Lorax and acknowledges him, he KNOWS he’s wronging, but he doesn’t care. He says literally that he “doesn’t wanna hear your crying”, he knows what he’s doing is causing pain to things, but only cares about biggering, and speaking of hurting things, he says “who cares if some things are dying” compared to how bad can I be says “a few trees”, so in the song he acknowledged that he’s hurting more than just trees. Great song, it sucks they didn’t use it since it sounds too much like illumination them self
If this had ever been released properly, it would have stood alongside Hellfire as one of the greatest villain songs of all animated movies, and possibly of all time.
I always re visit this animatic from time to time and ive really come to appreciate how well everything is drawn and planned. Its very beautiful and you make a good plan of what the song could've been. I especially love the detail how everyone is wearing green gloves to show the once-lers influence has grown an then it all circles around in the end and it shows a tidal wave of green gloves coming after the lorax and it really shows the power a strong influence can have over people and its empowering. I very much enjoy this animatic and I am still glad you made this MASTERPIECE of an animatic and I hope this gets even MORE attention that it truely deserves.
lo que más me gusta es que no adaptaron al 100% los sketchs originales de la pelicula ,y crearon una animacion totalmente diferente a lo que originalmente se iva a hacer ,no se limitaron a apenas seguirlos ,y crearon algo nuevo ,es increible
incredible how he comments how companies are animals struggling to survive, while everything he does is check sales and looks out his window. because at this point he has hired people just so they could hire people.
Them changing the songs also changed how much of villain he could have actually been in the movie, like the them changing the lines of him saying "who cares if some things are dying" to "who cares if a few trees are dying" which changes how much he realizes his impact going from him knowing it, but still not caring, to him being naive and not knowing the impact of what he is doing
And thing is, one can easily lead into the other. Biggering works as a great followup to How Bad Can I Be, showcasing just how far gone the Once-ler was until the last tree was cut down
qué hermoso ver que la gente se esfuerza por sus proyectos de arte, de verdad que esto es TREMENDA joya, me encanta como lograron expresar la canción con lo visual, simplemente perfecto
Ok, vi el storyboard oficial de esta canción, vi otros animatics y mucho más y aún así Aún así, tu has logrado de verdad el mejor resultado con ésto, incluso haces lograr hacer ver aún más malvado al Once-Ler que en el storyboard oficial de la canción, de verdad, maravilloso, maravilloso trabajo
Wow. Oh my god. Oh my gosh. This was so good. Soooo much better than what was in the film and not just the music, your animation fit so beautiful and built to such intensity. It gave me chills and emotions especially the green hands lifting him up towards the sky but instead of heaven it all goes dark and red like hell??? The quick cuts and so much fluidity that really builds and works with the music. And the bitter irony of him hanging paintings of the trees in his office??? This is all so genius and must have taken so much time and effort. This is sick and I love it thank you for blessing the world with your creation and talent
This makes me think that during its production up until mid-way, 2012's Lorax was going to be at least slightly darker in tone overall, this song being one indicator.
Not only this song, the other demo songs on the soundtrack indicate that originally the movie was going to be darker and more faithful to the book, but we already know how it ended, a shame
I love your animation, it perfectly captures the idea of the song and the original message of the Lorax, well done! I especially love how you've portrayed the green gloves as alegory for consumerism just like it was shown in the 1972 movie and the original book. It's amazing
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I love how in this, the Lorax isn’t just trying to save the Trees, he’s trying to save the Once-ler
yes I love that. He genuinely cares about the onceler in this version and doesn’t want him to succumb to his pride and greed
ARTHUR MORGAN? I@M PLAYING YOUR GAME RIGHT NOW TO?!
@@Sonnyboi75 And here is the fate
@@WarCriminalsimp what
@@AngelTheOfficialand he knows if he saves the guy, he hits two birds with one stone.
I love how the Onceler repeats what the Lorax says: “My biggering is triggering more biggering”, he’s actively acknowledging his flaws and does nothing to stop them, even encouraging them
To him they weren't flaws, but rather natural consequences of success, and envigorating ones on top of that. It's hard to correct a flaw when it's making you feel good
@@paulcarter9652not even consequences, they’re the goal
That's the best part of this song: he knew what he was doing, and did it anyway
Love the change from "I must keep biggering" to "I won't stop biggering". He is becoming aware of his acts, changing his views on them, they aren't an obligation (I must) they are his will (I won't stop)
@@gatlinggun511exactly. The goal post just keeps moving a millionaire wants a billion dollars, billionaires want a trillion etc.
As a wise commenter once said
"How bad can I be is the story the Onceler told Ted, Biggering is what actually happened"
It's also the story he tells himself.
its also the story the pr people decided to lie about and change to how bad can i be to make their company seem more innocent ironically
The Oncler told Ted “How Bad Can I Be?” because Ted was a child. “Biggering” being reality shows how adults will “Snuff Out The Light” of the true stories with darker and more realistic morals to “Tune Out” the next generation.
For example, The Brothers Grimm’s stories are constantly changed over the years. Nobody really remembers how it really happened unless you read the true stories (which are either thrown out or dusted under the rugs of life).
"How Bad Can I Be?" is the story that the real life "Oncelers" aka. investors in the movie want tou to think about them, and "Biggering" is the cold hard truth they don't want you to hear.
Oh 😮 I can feel that
What makes this cooler is that instead of "trees" it's "things" that he says are dying, meaning that he knows the greater-scale impact of his deforestation, endangering the lives of innocent creatures. It truly makes him a villain
literally makes him a real villain
Except that wasn't the point of the original. He wasn't trying to be evil he just wanted to capitalize on his neat idea. He was oblivious to the fact that creatures were dying not doing it intentionally. But by the time he figured out what he was doing his greed was too big.
@@Spiralredd he wasn't trying to be evil, sure. He was acting on his greed while not caring about the devastating effects on the eco system though. I think I'd call that quite evil. Evil people don't view themselves as evil. They do what they think is the correct thing, but their view of the world is warped by hate and greed, so they are actually commiting atrocities.
@@Idkpleasejustletmechangeitit wasn't him not caring it was him being oblivious like I said. And by the time he realized what he was doing he was too far gone
@@Spiralredd he'd be pretty fucking stupid if he was unable to realise the effect his actions have despite having two perfectly functioning eyes. You don't just accidentally turn the entire world into a wasteland. How would that even work? " *trips* *entire world turns into wasteland* oops! " Is that how it happens?
The idea of Danny Devito giving an animated speech about greed in the middle of a rock song is just so funny to me
On god. I just checked newest comments bruh.
can we marry
@@izvmiq7259sure 👍
I’m so glad Biggering is still getting attention even after all this time, it genuinely does go hard.
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#releasethebiggeringcut
With the recent Lorax meme, more people are reacting to "The Lorax" animatics!
Ikr
Absolutely love how this version has him say “Who cares if some *things* are dying.” Rather than “Who cares if a few trees are dying.”
Right? It gives so much more weight to his actions and shows how it can affect *everyone* rather than one thing
And also he kinda stops before he says some things, it's a really good detail
That line really gets you thinking like, he will do anything to be up and beyond, he doesn’t care who and what gets hurt. That’s what I see in this broken villain.
Literally it means that Once-ler does not even consider trees as living beings, but only as objects
You also gotta remember, it’s not few, its some, there are more things dying to his hands than nature itself can take, and all that’s left to show for it is the snickering grin upon the Onecelors face
I love how the *hands* are sending Onceler up to the sky, instead of him growing. His company didn’t grow on its own, the reason he got as big as he did was because of his humongous fanbase. He knows he can get away with everything because his fans will defend and support him no matter what, and THIS is what ALSO triggers his biggering.
It also serves as a wonderful call back to the original book.
I even thought of an extension of that idea where the gloves descending on a healthy valley before grabbing the tree tufts which turn into thneeds and deteriorate in their hands
And on top of that, it *also* acts as an amazing piece of metacommentary to the actual fanbase of the Lorax movie.
@@NickAndriadzeand all the corporate commercials for the Lorax movie. Truffula approved cars?
HUMONGOSAURIO
3:04 never fails to send chills down my spine because it's like a parallelism to "How Bad Can I Be" but with a darker tone.
it's just so epic. The tone, the guitar, the chorus
This song strikes like napalm while the other one I the final cut of the film hits like a wet noodle
I kinda wish we had both biggering and how can I be. That would make the shared part really good. :)
I really hope that the similarities to the late 70’s Pink Floyd albums in that part are intentional cus the sound, themes, and all around vibe perfectly match them
@@lamdontknow1547 I saw someone say on another video that How Bad Can I Be is the Onceler being an unreliable narrator and Biggering is how it really went down.
cant believe we almost got a punk rock version of the lorax
Can't believe we were robbed of that
They made a huge mistake cutting this song... It's one of the best villain songs I've heard. I don't care if it's "anti-corporate" or "too scary for kids" it's actually true to the story. Also great storyboard
For me It how bad can i be would go at the beginning and biggering near the end
@@capitanaless1o493 i think there was 100% a way they could have implemented both songs to show the progression of the onceler's greed. going from "what i'm doing isn't so bad" to "im dont care what im doing i need everything"
@@stickguyy yeah like we get "how bad" and by the end of that song his family is like "we're running out of trees" then a few minutes later we get "biggering" which ends on a shot of the wasteland he left, at which point he realizes he fucked up
Anti corporatism is the point of this story.
@@rohamcsigusz yes. and they completely ruined that in the movie by changing the message
The army of green gloves is not only really cool imagery, it’s also an excellent reference to how only the Onceler’s arms were ever shown in the original book. Great work!
I also love the way it feels like it represents the vices the Lorax warned the Onceler of cultivating: Greed and pride.
Greed: they reach out in all directions to grab and take for him as he keeps wanting more if not it all. Nowhere is safe from his reach. If it is something he wants or can get him what he wants, he'll take it and nothing can stop him now.
Pride: they raise and elevate him higher and higher as his ego grows with his profits, till he's looking down on those he once saw as friends and now views as in his way, they and everyone else are now beneath him figuratively and literally from where he stands, now.
I was hoping someone else noticed that
Yes, because if he has a face and skin colour, he can't be all of us.
Also looks like they're Heiling
@@drippyneco9419 yeah I noticed it looked like one of those nazi propaganda posters. It’s interesting how this animatic portrays that as the onceler was growing so did a fascistic following grow around him. It’s seen in his employees and the crowd near the end too
OMG I just had the thought, wouldn't it be fucking awesome if the office was actually pristine white and monochrome, but as the song goes on, the inside of the building gets more and more red, until the line "a company's an animal" where everything inside is just red and green. Showing how the onceler, in his green suit representing pride, acts as a parasite inside the corporation, representing greed and literally inside the belly of the beast. I absolutely love the parallelism
you are a genius
mind blown
Green is usually the color for greed too
Holy Mother of ideas
Christmas-
This puts "how bad can I be" to shame. And I aslo like that he knows what he is doing to the environment, unlike the original he only recognizes untill the last tree, so this makes him a real villain.
"AND I'LL KEEP BIGGERING! AND THERES NOTHING YOU CAN DO TO STOP ME!"
"there it is... The last one... That's whats gonna stop you"
"What have I done?..."
Tbh he even acts more evil here than the 1972 one in my opinion
@@irmaventura1433 yea, you definitely have a point
I'd like to think he'd still have that last moment realization though, as he's at his peak, he sees the one thing that will destroy his company for good. realizing the lorax was right
@@fusionwing4208 yea, kinda like I 1972. It'd be more like the story. Like, with 2012 I genuinely believe he felt bad for destroying the forest. In 1972, it's like a realization as well, but not a "oh, dang I destroyed everything" more like "oh, dang, I'm not on top anymore" same like how it could be for biggering
That moment you realize a company cut out a song about corporate corruption because it was to real for them
THIS is what schools should motivate students to make. What an amazing work of art!
this is a school proyect actually
Too bad schools only care about pushing kids to pass exams for content they won't even remember afterwards. It's just a competition of memory and another toxic practicality of capitalism.
Yeah sure, make a bunch of ten year olds draw the equivalent of the Mona Lisa for five minutes.
guys, nobody tell him about the existance of art schools
@@theringmaster6434 You do know that Art School is a thing, right?
wow that visual of all the hands reaching out with the "WHO CARES IF, SOME THINGS ARE DYIIIING!"
was really good
this definitely stands as one of the best visualizations of the song
Does anyone else want to use this song in their own movie or something?
@Rion yes
That part literally gave me chills with the awesome visuals included.
The green hands, or rather what looks to be his own hands reaching out could be a symbolism of ego warps the perception of reality,
or,
meaning to symbolize how the customers and consumers are just as greedy and capable of greed as he is, because they're in fact the ones destroying the environment through him
Silencio ingles✋
a school project can be better than the whole movie
Facts
it's a good video but the movie is way better ☠️
Please 3D animate this
@@horse3987the movie is actual cancer
@@BaronVladHarkonnen tell me another joke
This song would’ve literally changed a whole generation if they had kept it in the movie.
Ironically a big corporation forced Illumination to remove it
Precisely why it was cut. Who made this, after all?
@@theregalproletariatBig money got scared that the song was basically a slap in the face
@@balsamicsalad160 Which is incredibly ironic how big companies decided that reality was too scary, the one that they perpetuate and create
"We can't do that, it'd make us look bad!"
Here’s the thing. I like How Bad Can I Be? It’s a glitzy pop song that showcases the PR campaigns to sanitize the company’s image, eventually starting to show the darkness underneath and is scary in its own right.
The problem is that when it comes to the Onceler, it’s not played as a front; it’s played straight. It shows the Onceler getting caught up in his own messaging and being stunned at the end when the last tree is chopped down. Canonically, the Onceler has deniability. He doesn’t realize what he’s doing until it’s too late. It’s the exact sort of thing CEOs hide behind every time they do something horrible, and that’s the problem.
This song, on the other hand, shows the Onceler knowing everything he’s doing and the impact of it. The movie is good, but if not for corporate meddling, it could have been incredible.
Exactly
I wouldn't care about How Bad Can I Be if we also had Biggering afterwards to contrast with it and show that the first one is just a facade, but the fact they cut it and tried to make the Onceler a quirky figure that is good and doesn't realize he does bad is just ....... talk about misunderstanding the source material and making a much less compelling villain as a result. I just love the characterization Biggering does, yes he isn't fully aware of the weight of his actions, but he's still aware that he is doing something bad and willingly chooses to ignore it to pursue his own hubris.
We were robbed of one of the greatest villain songs, Biggering would honestly have saved the movie and it's messaging (not 100% but it still would have improved it so massively it's not even funny)
@@sephikong8323 I agree Biggering could have worked as a dark reprise to How Bad Can I Be.
Wow, this is probably one of the best biggering storyboards out there, this goes hard
It's not an storyboard, it's an animatic.
@@ethandouro4334 eh an animatic is just the good parts of a storyboard with music
@@Sputterbug no it's not 💀
@Ethan d'Ouro i mean tbf its a more cleaned up storyboard with more leaning into the actual product so??? Idk 😭
@@marcoTHECOOLESTCAT yes! But they are still different.
That imagery of the once ler being lifted up by his fans and consumers wearing those iconic green gloves is brilliant. It shows how much his ego has grown. And it makes it even more crushing when the last tree gets cut down.
Literally…and the part when he’s telling Ted what he did was so upsetting!! Ted is 12 and how old is the once-ler?!
@@ThunderClanFan22he's probably like 70 or something
Woah can't believe I found this masterpiece by going down a rabbit hole about Lorax critiques. AMAZING work. It's so sad that Illumination scrapped biggering from the final product, but if they put it in then amazing fan works like this never would have come to existence, so for that I'm grateful.
I agree!
It's sad that they trashed the movie until it became a soulless corporate animation. Ironic.
Ye
It's probably a worthy sacrifice in order to get a good Lorax movie that respects the original book, presents the message the book had to give but for newer generations, and even does a better job at teaching the lesson the book already does a great job teaching by not only making The once-ler really be someone the audience can relate to and feel like it could easily be them going through the same things as the once-ler, but also showing how the companies and billionaires aren't the only ones to blame, but also the people who consume all of these products that destroy nature in order to produce (sometimes even in order to use), supporting and incentivating the companies to keep fabricating it regardless of it's consequences, by having O'hare and thneedvile citizens as a whole exist.
Yes, literally having the movie as a whole be the same and just inserting this music on the point how bad can i be would usually play would not fix it, but you need to consider that biggering was made for a very different lorax movie as you can see it even more by listening to all of the other scrapped songs made for the movie, so if Ilumination was willing to let Biggering in, they probably would also be willing to do the whole movie as it was originally intended.
In fact, this hypothetic scenario would probably also have a really different Ilumination that actually cares for the quality of their content, just like the Ilumination that did the first Despicable me (I know Ilumination didn't completely change from despicable me to the Lorax movie in terms of the people who work on it, but i mean that Ilumination was clearly going for different things when doing the first despicable me than most of their other movies), or maybe it would just take a little longer for them to start to choose profit over quality, and then we would have maybe, like, 3 good Ilumination movies instead of 1
Damn i wrote a lot more than i anticipated
@@JosoezinduASMRpog Why are you defending illumination lmao
As an eight year old kid in 2012, I absolutely loved How Bad Can I Be?
As a nineteen year old adult in 2023, I realize Biggering is superior in every way.
Igual, mi yo de chiquito amaba esta canción, unos 3 años después me olvide de la existencia de esta película, después me acordé por los memes que se hacen con la canción de" Cuán malo puedo ser?"(How bad can I be, pongo esto por qué no se si se tradusca bien) y me sigue gustando mucho la canción, pero Biggering, me deja sin palabras
Here’s the thing. I like How Bad Can I Be? It’s a glitzy pop song that showcases the PR campaigns to sanitize the company’s image and is scary in its own right.
The problem is that it’s not played as a front; it’s played straight. It shows the Onceler getting caught up in his own messaging and being stunned at the end when the last tree is chopped down. Canonically, the Onceler has deniability. He doesn’t realize what he’s doing until it’s too late. It’s the exact sort of thing CEOs hide behind every time they do something shitty, and that’s the problem.
@_somerandomguyontheinternet_ I honestly just like Biggering more because he knows what he's doing is wrong, but doesn't care, which is how a lot of companies are like. And because it's got that awesome ending to it. 🤩
As an 11 year old in 2023, the only valuable thing to be sucked out of How Bad Can I Be are the memes and the instrumental
@@DesprezoRascunhoschad opinion kiddo
4:18 The "Who cares if some things are dying"
Good lord... MUSICALLY AND VOCALLY BRILLIANT AND THE STORYBOARD IS BRILLIANT.
Everyone is begging for a proper full fledged animation for this song. It's robbery that it never made the cut because Illumination execs thought it was "too dark."
They didn't think it was too dark. That was just an excuse in my opinion. I think what they really didn't like was how it hit too close to home and made it seem like the Onceler wasn't the sweet innocent little man that was manipulated into bad deeds by his family that "How Bad Can I be" made him out to be
@@thallium.81 Yet one thing people forget is that, a sweet innocent person can be their own worst manipulator, by letting their gluttony run like wildfire.
dont you think it describes higher ups in coompanies too much
And this robbery is triggering more biggery!
How Bad Can I Be is a total bop, but this is just 🤌
The hands symbolising the people's good word for him and love for him lifting him up and raising him on a pedestal of his own destruction is so amazing and well done
That’s actually the most perfect way of describing that symbolism, bravo mate
The symbolism in this is top notch. I love the animals running away from the profit arrow, and the multitude of green gloves. The latter shows that it’s really not JUST the Oncler’s fault: it was also the system that allowed him to do it. I also love the “Too big to Fail” picture as well. I keep finding more perfectly placed small details each time I rewatch. Great work!
I agree. I do have an analysis that it’s not really the factory that was bad, just the greed and the imbalance behind the onclers goals. If the oncler planted seeds for everyone he cut down, or invented a device to harvest the material, or have his own tree grove within the factory to harvest material, then it’s help the environment and keep the economy going. Then again, we wouldn’t have the Lorax story we know today.
@@savannahhague4989 Indeed. Once-ler's mistake was his pride, he genuinely thought his company just couldn't fail, after all, it was so successful, no way he would just, ya know, run out of resources with the way he recklessly was harvesting the trees for the thneeds
And if that isn't made clear...look at the painting of the Once-ler where it says "too big to fail". That's the mentality Once-ler himself had, both in HBCIB and Biggering
@@savannahhague4989 Well the Lorax is also a critique of the inherent flaw of "unlimited production, limited resources", which we see in the world to this day. There is realistically nothing the Onceler could have done to stop the general course of the trees, because if he cuts down on his production he loses revenue and if profits go down then shareholders lose confidence, and it also may open the window for competitors to come in who may or may not care being sustainable.
@@jose13neo Yup, as Once-ler puts it "if he didn't do it, someone else would"
Probably one of my favorite differences about both songs is that in “How Bad Can I Be?” The Onceler says ”Who cares if some trees are dying?” Whereas in “Biggering” he says “Who cares if some THINGS are dying?” The difference being that the Onceler in the cut version is far more aware of his actions than he was in “How Bad Can I Be?” and is fully aware that it isn’t just trees that are dying from what he is doing.
I love how here 3:13 the poster says “To Big To Fail” showing how companies think once a product is selling well. It doesn’t matter the negative effect that come out of it or anything else cause the company thinks and is so high on ego they believe it can’t fail no matter what happens.
It's also a reference to wall street, when people used to say the American banks were "too big to fail," then the wall street crash happened.
This is a verbatim shot from the actual film.
Everything looks so complete and clean, you even kept the cuteness of the Once-Ler while leaving no doubt of his sins, by bringing this song to life. The shot angles and cuts truly make this for me. I love your art style, and this deserves all the love it can get and more!
I gues artstyle does matter, you can somehow make the onceler devolve into a corporate monster but still manage to keep him a tumblr fangirl magnet
@@harbour2118 not sure why the sexism was necessary but this is a common occurrence in anime.
@@Sputterbug i wasnt being sexist, i just noticed there were fangirls were hogging over him like hoes on santa
@@Sputterbug can you explain to me how that’s sexist?
@@faresalsayed9005 his ass prob thought fangirl was sexist cuz he didnt mention fanboys too
The image of the Once-Ler gloved hands being the crowd is by far the most impactful image. Although the Once-Ler in the past was meant to be a stand in for big business, it also overlooked the other side of the coin; the people who enable them by buying their products. Especially now a days with some corporations having such a large customer base it's at points hard to solely blame the faceless company.
The Lorax move could've really benefited from the message saying that "Yes, YOU can become a Once-Ler if you fall to greed". Instead they went with car commercials, pancake ads, and removing the song that would wrap it all up.
I feel as if Illumination shouldn’t have been put in charge of making this movie based on Seuss' work. Maybe it should’ve been a different studio. One that actually cared about the book's timeless message.
@@worthybutter2004, maybe Studio Ghibli could’ve been in charge of making The Lorax? If they could make a movie adaption of Howl’s Moving Castle with gorgeous animation and an amazing English dub voice cast, I think they could’ve done The Lorax right.
@@Beanie-Inkling2749 Hmm, not my personal choice, but an interesting one.
@@worthybutter2004 , I mean, I do remember Studio Ghibli having one movie known as Tales From Earthsea that had a villain with no sympathy or tragic backstory. That’s just my opinion but if you suggest any more animated studios, let me know on the double because I’m actually one of the many people who actually WANT this song to have a scene.
@@worthybutter2004I was thinking Dreamworks lol
The Art Style gives me major Golden Age Disney/2D DreamWorks vibes, love it!
@mohamed zayan I think it's more about the Lorax himself and the layout. Golden Disney did have a thing for big mustaches.
“WHO CARES IF SOME THINGS ARE DYINGGGGGGGG!!!! I DON’T WANNA HEAR YOUR CRYINGGGGGGGG!!!!”
*Bro that honestly hits way to close to home…*
You have got to appreciate the audio symbolism when the Lorax is talking. There's a literal choir singing behind him throughout his speech because he is PREACHING to the Onceler.
I really like this video. It really helps to realize that "Biggering" is definitely better than "How bad can I be". Because it reveals all the potential that this song had.
This song literally means
“The more you get the more you want”
I like how the hands lifting up the once-ler is symbolic of how the consumers demand fuels greed.
I absolutely love how the Onceler walks away from the Lorax as he’s trying to save him, then has security drag him off. It perfectly represents how soulless and punishing of good people corporates are, and how the Onceler knows what he’s doing is wrong but is unwilling to listen or even care. Both the song animation paint him as an actual villain and not some lanky kid who did an oopsie and damn near ruined the entire planet
The Lorax’s design is actual adorable tho
He look like a pet lol
The green hand visuals were absolutely stunning. They are so powerful.
This could've easily been one of the best villain songs in animation. It's sad because I feel that the once-ler had potential to be a good and interesting antagonist but sadly this was made by illumination.
In my opinion they messed up on how bad can I be, it kinda took away the message until the very end of the movie tbh.
@@marcelasaenz713And minions rise of gru, Most people enjoyed it and me too
@@marcelasaenz713Mario movie was trash what you mean they made Luigi into a bit@h boy under his brother and they only do something with him in the very end, super lazy writing
@@marcelasaenz713 ***all a days
Despicable Me was real good and the second one is kinds underrated.
I think Biggering actually fits well with the character arc Ted was going to have about being materialistic and always needing more stuff.
It was in the original plans of the film that the boy was materialistic and consumerist at first, but upon hearing the story of the onceler his vision changes.
They also altered the lyrics of the opening song to be less materialistic
@@_somerandomguyontheinternet_ Not only did they remove the letters that showed materialism, they also removed the letters that reflected that the city was a dystopia, mentioning things like they cannot see the sun, there is smoke, alarming chemicals, and they showed that the citizens were consumerists and were not naive to the pollution of the city, they even knew who was the cause by mentioning a hill with the name of its founder that they would turn it into a pizza chain and apparently Ted was originally going to be a spoiled and consumerist child who only wanted a tree because no one in the city city had one having selfish desires and who believed himself superior to others, among other things
covering his eyes with shadows once he really delves deep into biggering showing a loss of humanity but also showing a bit of the original movie's thing of having him be more faceless so he can be anyone
Imagine making one of the rawest villain songs in history and then just not using it
Oh, I love it! Once-ler is much more innocent here than I've seen in other "Biggering" animatics. Don't get me wrong, I think it's cool and shows how he didn't become this corporate monster in one second.
Everything is so clean, and I just adore your style, especially how you drew his hair and face. Once-ler's movements are quite expressive, and the use of colours only adds to the overall picture of making the characters the main spotlight.
You've done an outstanding job. Thank you.
Love the symbolism of the green arms representing his growing influence on the world around him and a neat reference to the book where he only see his arms.
This goes so incredibly hard. The whole feel of Biggering is captured perfectly both in the expressions of the characters and the general tone of the actions being taken. The Lorax specifically impressed me a lot, his body movement showed his anger and desperation for the Once-ler to realize the true weight of his actions. Also you kinda made him scary ngl.... Who knew a fluffy orange creature could have such an intense glare?
Already in the song it seems very serious, in some animatics sometimes the Lorax becomes a little scary especially when he says "pride" that part gave me chills, good job
Illumination seriously needs to make a 2nd movie about the lorax from the oncelers pov with this song in it. It starts out with how sheltered and alone the onceler was when he was younger and how that drove him to madness. With the new technology and advanced animation, it could be the greatest movie of the year.
I don't know if they'd care too much about doing that, tbh.
@@worthybutter2004 because everyone likes and loves the movie. Illumination is greedy.
@@DRXXMURjust like onceler 💀
…anyone but illumination, honestly. They screwed up bad, and they’d screw up again.
People said DreamWorks should redirect The Lorax cuz You know DreamWorks... They do Dark Stuffs Sometimes
the multiple hands reaching out and making way for the onceler's corporate ascendancy as a metaphor for the invisible hand driving market forces and carrying him to the (literal) top is brilliant. extremely inspired stuff in the last third, awesome work!
whoever decided not to putt this in the movie was definitely biggering.
I love all the things with the onceler that the other comments have said, but something I especially love is how the Lorax is portrayed here.
He knows there’s nothing he can do but talk. He’s not some all powerful guardian, he can’t send the fury of the forest after the onceler and send him packing. But he still *tries.* You can see it from the look of his eyes and how he moves in his speech, he is doing EVERYTHING he can to protect his home, the forest he exists to be the guardian of. He’s trying his absolute best to get through to the man he once viewed as someone he could possibly call a friend. His efforts aren’t just to save the forest, they’re to save a man from being consumed by his pride and greed. And yet, it’s not enough.
But even after that, the Lorax tries.
He evacuates as many animals as he can, even stands against him still in the face of his monstrous machines, unnatural heaps of metal that the Lorax could never hope to stop. And yet he still tries to save what he can, what little is left.
And while he fails, it’s an amazing effort made by someone who could do nothing but talk.
He’s lost, yes, but he saved every little thing he could.
And yet at the end, when the onceler’s greed has caught up to him and he’s lost near everything he could use to keep his business going, the Lorax is still there. Not to say “I told you so”, but from the way he’s standing, because he feels sorry for the man. The man he once called a possible friend, who fell into a pit of greed, and didn’t even attempt to climb out of it, despite his best efforts to urge him to.
But still, he’s there after all that.
Just find it interesting how perfectly he’s portrayed here.
Imagine creating one of the best villain songs ever made. And then not using it
this is actually fucking amazing! i'd pay good money to see this fully animated. the shots are immaculately constructed, with such evocative visuals. i particularly love the hands carrying onceler, alluding to how the onceler was only shown as hands in the original book, kinda making it REALLY feel like the movie onceler is just another in the line represented by the book onceler. all the cuts to different things hes describing are also really good. i love the shot where his hat covers up the whole frame, almost like its his ego itself overpowering and consuming your sight.
and honestly some of the implied differences in narrative in this compared to the film and books, and particularly the direction of making the onceler just anyone, kind of also elevate this. lorax seeming more like hes trying to save onceler kind of imply that in a wider narrative using this the writer could easily lean more into the "greed could overpower anyone you know" angle, which i feel is a rather interesting take on the same concept initially given by the lorax story. granted, though, thats just my reading. interesting tho
overall, love this to bits!
This song is actually good enough to be a fully realised villain song, and it's only the demo! Imagine if they could polish it a bit more!
Being a demo it sounds incredible I can't imagine it being finished
What an outstanding work of art! 🌟
Indeed is!
¿Esto de verdad es un proyecto escolar? Para mí es increíble.
no es cualquier proyecto escolar, ES UN PROYECTO ESCOLAR UNIVERTSITARIO EN LA UNIVERSIDAD DE ARTES DONDE ESTUDIO EDD GOULD EL CREADOR DE EDDSWORLD
la primer vez que tengo 100 likes :D
Probablemente esté estudiando animación, y tengo entendido pueden tener este tipo de proyectos. Está increíble el resultado
@@baconwings8816 :0
@@baconwings8816 :OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
this reply section taught me spanish
its nice to see this song is getting the attention it deserves. It really is a shame it never saw the light of day. It really could have made the movie incredible with its powerful storytelling.
Petition to have biggering animated by the Lorax animators
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If this song was in the movie, it would be a different movie.
This animation is seriously amazing, it is incredibly how well you were able to portray this song, with the Lorax having the classic moment when the hero gets thrown out of the villain's giant complex, while explaining to the villain all their problems and resonating with the villain too much for them to be at ease. The difference is that in this, the Onceler doesn't really give up, he gives into his thoughts and doesn't stop until his plans are finished.
Really, I can't overstate how good this is.
En serio no entiendo:
Cómo es que "la afición", "los fans", "los novatos" hagan mejor trabajo que los profesionales.
Es la mejor animación que he visto de este rolón, es una de mis canciones favoritas y nadie había podido animarla con la justicia que lo hiciste.
Felicidades,
Mucho éxito
🔥 Yo te respondo esa pregunta:
Si ves los storyboards oficiales del Lorax y comentarios de los creadores, ellos tenían una idea más compleja y madura para desarrollar la película. Y se notaba que sabían lo que hacían con solo echar un vistazo al arte oficial.
Lo que pasó fue que los ejecutivos de Illumination les prohibieron y censuraron muchísimas cosas, y el resultado fue lo que obtuvimos. Toda una pena.
@@TedWiggins y sabiendo que esta es la segunda peli animada del estudio después de Mi villano favorito 1 (siendo una peli que a veces es madura) es triste como el estudio se alejó de lo que fue su primer peli y hicieron más películas con trama simplona.
"¿Cómo es que los fans hacen mejor trabajo que los profesionales?"
Pues a la hora de hacer un proyecto como una película o una obra, los trabajadores tienen que ser supervisados por moderadores. Los fans en cambio tienen más libertad y se les permite más creatividad.
[Onceler]
At first I didn't realize
I needed all this stuff
I had a little cottage
And that cottage was enough
A place where I could sit and knit
A place where I could sell my Thneeds
But now I've had a little time
To re-assess my needs
And I need a bigger office
I need a bigger chair
A bigger desk, a bigger staff
A bigger hat to wear
Because I'm biggering
I'm figuring I'm biggering
And biggering is triggering
More biggering
[Lorax]
Hey, listen up, meathead
I'm going to say this once, and I'm not gonna repeat it
Greed ya see, it's like a little pet, alright?
And the more and more and more that you go and feed it
The more hungry it'll get
But you know, you really can't blame greed
No, that's stupid
You see, it's gotta worm inside
Oh yeah, that's right
It's one that always needs to feed
And it is never satisfied
You get it?
But the more you try to find it
The more it likes to hide
Now listen that is nasty little worm
And I like to call it pride
See, now that's why you're biggering
Listen here, idiot
I'm figuring on biggering
But that biggering's just triggering more biggering
Got that? Alright
[Onceler]
There is a principle of nature
That most every creature knows
It's called survival of the fittest
And this is how it goes
The animal that wins has got to
Claw and kick and punch
The animal that doesn't
Winds up someone else's lunch
A company's an animal
That's trying to survive (survive)
It's struggling, and fighting
Just to keep itself alive
I must keep biggering
I'm figuring I'm biggering
Though biggering is triggering more biggering
I won't stop
Biggering
I'm figuring I'm biggering
And biggering is triggering more biggering
And the customers are buying
And the money multiplying
And the pr people lying
And the lawyers are denying
Who cares if some things are dying?
I don't wanna hear your crying
This is all so gratifying
I absolutely LOVE your incorporation of the green-gloved hands of the masses. It really drives in how much influence and power he’s gained over them and how their drone/sheep-like behavior has help enabled him to get to this point! INCREDIBLE job!
I really love how you drew this, especially the part where he calls in a security guard to come get the Lorax. It hits a lot harder because it's such a cold and impersonal method of dealing with someone who was once a friend, at least in this universe.
The absolute shivers that went over my entire body when I saw the crowd of green gloves. It's not just him, it's all of us also. Buying things we don't really need, but want, even at the cost of nature. His company couldn't grow if people didn't buy. Yeah some people might not be aware, but some most definitely are. Amazing imagery.
The biggering has so much potencial to make Lorax at least 60% better. I do like How bad can i be,but biggering actually reaches the issue along with original Onceler’s personality. This Is trurly amazing MV thank you! ❤️❤️
The Lorax calling him an idiot like that.
I see how it was 2 dark for the Lorax now.
what are you talking about
While I'll always have a soft spot for the animatic that introduced me to this song, I have to say that your animatic here is superior. The clean line work looks great, and you really made it look cinematic, with proper cuts, and dramatic angles and "camera positions". And the symbolic hands at the end were absolutely amazing, along with the rising profit line earlier, making it feel like it's taking some style from How Bad Could I Be's visuals, in that it's got some abstraction, non-literal visuals that help get the point across.
Lorax of 1972 had a dark vibe the colours and the designs and the best part that the ending isn't satisfying because ends with onceler giving the seed and it ends, it doesn't show Ted going to the town and making the trees grow again and it was on porpuse because explains that we need to do something. And the fact that the Once Ler doesn't have a face show that Once Ler was created to represent the companies as a whole. The 2012 version is fine but "The Lorax" is a book that would have an amazing adaptation, more darker, mature and realistic. Because the message that we're killing our planet hits hard when you realise that you're part of the problem, and Biggering shows me how much pontential it had.
This is not the only song eliminated, originally it was planned that the film would be darker and more faithful to the book, this due to the other original songs on the soundtrack that indicated a darker and more serious tone, the studio forced the scriptwriters to changing the entire movie to be children's, it was studio interference that ruined this movie and all the potential it had
@@estrella-om7tu I know, they originally were going to make Ted a selfish kid that wants a tree just because he wants everything, and and he would learn that being selfish was the reason that there wasn't anymore trees, but instaed made him a sassy teenager that wants to impress a girl.
@@Sub_marino Yes, also that Thneedville was going to be a dystopia where the citizens could not see the sun because of the pollution, the buildings were destroyed, everyone was aware but they became consumerist and materialistic, from here you can understand Ted's mentality, a hill is also mentioned named after the former founder of thneedville, which was the only thing that stayed the same but will be replaced by a pizza chain, this is on the thneedville demo song
@@estrella-om7tu Thats art
Dios...la película la pudo dar tanto con esta canción,y llegar a ser de las que se quedan tanto en tu cabeza que jamás,pero le tuvieron miedo al éxito
I like that in your version we often don't see the Once-ler's face. In the original the Once-ler wasn't meant to be a person - he was meant to be a presentation of every person. We all could become a Once-ler, it wasn't a fault found in just one young man. It is a fault in humans pride over our ability to dominate our surrondings.
The first few seconds had me thinking about a version of the movie where after this song they stop showing the Onceler's face at all.
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This aint a School Project, this is better than the whole movie
4:33 bro just said "nah im just make my voice even more high pitch"
1:21 This speech would have offended EVERY company out there. One of the things Biggering has that How Bad Can I Be? doesn't is that it actually TALKS to the cooperate leaders. This speech literally says, "Yes, this is you. And these are the things that YOU did, and why you do it." Without this part, in the final part of the song where Once-ler says, "Who cares if some things are dying?" wouldn't have been as impactful as it was.
no me engañen, eso no es un proyecto escolar, eso es lo que presento alguien de illumination y ellos lo descartaron en favor de cuan malo puedo ser, de verdad parece profesional! increible es quedarse corto!
Mepa que no te leíste la descripción XDDD
@@nath601 mepa que no te leiste mi comentario completo, dije claramente "parece profesional" no "es profesional"
@@nath601 Esa compresión lectora esta faltante xDDD
Me acuerdo cuando apenas salio y tenia como 20 mil vistas, y mira ahora, tiene más s de 1 millón de vistas.
Me encantó, sobre todo como plasmas ese ambiente oscuro que combina con el instrumental
Something about the fact that, he knows what he’s doing wrong in this song, says something. In how bad can I be, he literally sings about how he doesn’t think he does anything wrong, and when he sees the last tree fall, he is HEARTBROKEN, just look at his face. In this song, he hears the Lorax and acknowledges him, he KNOWS he’s wronging, but he doesn’t care. He says literally that he “doesn’t wanna hear your crying”, he knows what he’s doing is causing pain to things, but only cares about biggering, and speaking of hurting things, he says “who cares if some things are dying” compared to how bad can I be says “a few trees”, so in the song he acknowledged that he’s hurting more than just trees. Great song, it sucks they didn’t use it since it sounds too much like illumination them self
Cada canción representa una parte diferente de la inconciencia ambiental
Biggering wasn't scrapped because it was too scary for kids.
It was scrapped because it was too scary for adults.
Lol
If this had ever been released properly, it would have stood alongside Hellfire as one of the greatest villain songs of all animated movies, and possibly of all time.
4:08 bruhhh omgg
Esto no es un proyecto escolar, es arte
Es mejor que toda la película
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I love the animatic, it reminds me of some badass anime, especially when the Once-ler holds his hat and opens the doors. Like, IT JUST GOES SO HARD
I always re visit this animatic from time to time and ive really come to appreciate how well everything is drawn and planned. Its very beautiful and you make a good plan of what the song could've been. I especially love the detail how everyone is wearing green gloves to show the once-lers influence has grown an then it all circles around in the end and it shows a tidal wave of green gloves coming after the lorax and it really shows the power a strong influence can have over people and its empowering. I very much enjoy this animatic and I am still glad you made this MASTERPIECE of an animatic and I hope this gets even MORE attention that it truely deserves.
I have watched this animatic an unhealthy amount of times. You really did a great job!
I like the analogy the Lorax makes of greed and pride being a pet with a parasite the parasites the problem but the pet is fueling it.
lo que más me gusta es que no adaptaron al 100% los sketchs originales de la pelicula ,y crearon una animacion totalmente diferente a lo que originalmente se iva a hacer ,no se limitaron a apenas seguirlos ,y crearon algo nuevo ,es increible
incredible how he comments how companies are animals struggling to survive, while everything he does is check sales and looks out his window. because at this point he has hired people just so they could hire people.
Them changing the songs also changed how much of villain he could have actually been in the movie, like the them changing the lines of him saying "who cares if some things are dying" to "who cares if a few trees are dying" which changes how much he realizes his impact going from him knowing it, but still not caring, to him being naive and not knowing the impact of what he is doing
And thing is, one can easily lead into the other. Biggering works as a great followup to How Bad Can I Be, showcasing just how far gone the Once-ler was until the last tree was cut down
qué hermoso ver que la gente se esfuerza por sus proyectos de arte, de verdad que esto es TREMENDA joya, me encanta como lograron expresar la canción con lo visual, simplemente perfecto
Ok, vi el storyboard oficial de esta canción, vi otros animatics y mucho más y aún así
Aún así, tu has logrado de verdad el mejor resultado con ésto, incluso haces lograr hacer ver aún más malvado al Once-Ler que en el storyboard oficial de la canción, de verdad, maravilloso, maravilloso trabajo
there is no official storyboard…
@@leeshapon no lo hay? Oh, que extraño, entonces lo que debí ver fue un fake, mala mía
@@TherealBochiomototaxi É, não tem storyboards oficiais para a animação, mas há alguns glimpses pelo o que sei.
@@TherealBochiomototaxi TODOS los que hay son fan
@@TherealBochiomototaxi hablas del de whysoanimated? ese es fanmade pero muchos lo confunden y piensan que es oficial
I love how you included original lorax architecture looks! This was amazing
4:09 was done so flawlessly and is my favorite part of both the song and the animatic! Incredible job!
Wow. Oh my god. Oh my gosh. This was so good. Soooo much better than what was in the film and not just the music, your animation fit so beautiful and built to such intensity. It gave me chills and emotions especially the green hands lifting him up towards the sky but instead of heaven it all goes dark and red like hell??? The quick cuts and so much fluidity that really builds and works with the music. And the bitter irony of him hanging paintings of the trees in his office??? This is all so genius and must have taken so much time and effort. This is sick and I love it thank you for blessing the world with your creation and talent
This song slaps on so many levels. I don't even have to explain it's brilliance.
Man, I hope you get recognition. You are really talented, and that’s one of the best fan versions of a song clip ever. Keep on doing the good work!
this isn’t a animatic. it’s a masterpiece.
A true work of art. Nothing short of a true masterpiece. Amazing work! Keep doing what you do, no matter what others say!
This makes me think that during its production up until mid-way, 2012's Lorax was going to be at least slightly darker in tone overall, this song being one indicator.
Not only this song, the other demo songs on the soundtrack indicate that originally the movie was going to be darker and more faithful to the book, but we already know how it ended, a shame
I love your animation, it perfectly captures the idea of the song and the original message of the Lorax, well done!
I especially love how you've portrayed the green gloves as alegory for consumerism just like it was shown in the 1972 movie and the original book. It's amazing