The Onceler gets darker and darker, with only his gloves being visible at times is a very nice callback to the original where only the Onceler's hands were shown.
Hey, shady doorags didn't expect to see you here. I know you as the guy who makes those great bojack horseman analysis vids(Granted you don't do those anymore because the shows over and what I assume you wanting to move on to different things) Also great detail you point out with The Onceler, because to me at least, it pays a good homage to the original classic while simultaniously repurposing scenes from the 2012 version which not only creates the best of both worlds, but shows The Oncelers decent into a shallow hallow corporate business CEO in a way that makes him realistic and terryfing.
Yes, i thibk they should keep on something similar, since it was meant to represent how the once-ler story could happen with anyone else, which was genius.
I love how the final Truffula seed got stuck in his machine by mistake and him removing it to fix the error is how he obtained the environment‘s last hope. That was a legitimately powerful moment.
A perfect showing on how he's not too much of a monster and still has some semblance of remorse This whole song could've saved the film a good percentage instead of feeling corporate
@@BasicallyEverythingML I don't blame him, he just wanted to make the story more family friendly for the ten year old boy outside his house who (knowing thneed-vill) hasn't heard a swear in his life.
@Klaus Blunk So, you're telling me the story the Once-Ler told Ted and us, the audience, wasn't the REAL story?! It was just a Pg version, but the actual version is so depressing?!
I fucking love how as time goes on, Onceler's face and body slowly becomes more obscured in darkness until only his green gloves are left visible. The pure-hearted man with dreams of grandeur is gone, replaced with the faceless embodiment of corporate greed that he was in the classic film. Such an incredible detail.
Agreed, like this is my favourite storyboard because it is just perfection in my eyes, also I also like that detail it really is so clever and I love it
This wasn't cut because it was "too relentlessly dark" for kids to handle. It was cut because the company funding the production team didn't want to portray corporate business in a negative light.
@@LeoSan031 I find it so humorous when corporations attempt to get people to sympathize for them in subtlety through articulating themselves to be innocent within the confines of scripted scenarios like "How Bad Can I Be, I'm Just Doing What Comes Naturally". And I always shake my head at how people literally fall for it, and then try to use the legacies of these animation companies to boost enthusiasm. It's like they're falling into exactly what this story was supposed to warn everyone about.
@@vibes8930 yeah like, also, what is even wrong that kids might get scared by this song? it's not like it's gonna give them a temporal trauma or full time nightmares, capitalism and greedy corporations are something to be taken seriously and not as "oh yeah, they're giving us money to buy you clothes or toys, etc etc, they're important 😍" climate change exists and kids are pretty much gonna be aware of that.
@@nicoleflores2054 They gave kids an unrealistic idea of how corporate America really is just because the company that animated this didnt want to make something that went against their motives. And I would be more mellow about it if this wasn't an expansion of a classic story, but not only does it fail to deliver on the foundation that it is one, it's a deliberate misfire because Illumination Entertainment wanted to water down the meanings of the themes of what made this story what it was for optimal benefit... *for themselves.* We as a people should be able to convey lessons to one another and listen to one another, not be prohibited from preaching valuable morals because companies don't want to participate with us in admitting to their errors.
One thing I appreciate in this animatic is how the Lorax shows the Onceler what he's doing to the environment during the Greed bit before all the trees are gone. Really emphasizes how he knows deep down that what he's doing is wrong but continues doing it for the sake of his pride.
The movie almost got it right, but they screwed it up by failing to take the final step. They refused to give the Onceler agency and instead went for the plausible deniability route, and the Onceler's character and the film's message about environmentalism and corporate greed suffered as a result of Illumination's cowardice and adamant refusal to face reality.
yeah he admits he knows its bad, that its hurting the environment, he listens to the lorax, and ignores his warnings. then he wishes he had listened. the movie once-ler is a super toned-down version of this, except they make it seem more like he isn't aware that what he's doing is hurting the environment. he's a dumber version of the once-ler
His Pride definitely is at a High since he never blames Greed. Money doesn't blind someone, but rather they Pride. A lot of companies may not even listen to their community because they are higher and they think the choices that they make is better than what communities and others may say. Onceler Pride is showing little care to the ones lower to him as he is now above them all. He is showing no care especially when he says "Who cares if some things are dying" showing that he literally knows his actions are wrong but his Pride is getting the better of him. He literally DOESN'T care about what the lorax and them are going to until all the trees are cut and his pride cannot be fed
4:03 this would've hit like a truck in the movie. The flashes between a past conflicted Oncler and an empty one telling the story, and the disappointed Lorax mixing with a terrified child listening to what happened. It would've stuck out and that's what illumination was afraid of.
@@Owenbot3000 there’s a soulless irony to a huge corporation taking on a film about corporate greed and the environmental damages. they’ve ruined so much of what the original message was, and it makes me miserable to know because the children are too naive to know or recognise that
@@Sputterbug oh absolutely but most probably won’t read the book. the worst part is kids are not stupid. they would have understood the message that the onceler CAN be bad and isn’t just misunderstood. Also the message about over consumption was vital. i’m pissed off that they thought kids wouldn’t get that.
He must’ve been like, “Holy crap! He’s beginning to sound like Mr. O’Hare!”, given that Audrey’s tree mural being cleaned off was foreshadowing on what happens next in the Once-Ler’s story.
The story of the Onceler has the potential to be one of the most tragic yet captivating tales in modern animation. I hope it’s given the chance one day.
They can’t even say this is “too dark for kids”, I showed this to my 8 year old brother and then watched the Lorax with him, and he was actually upset when Biggering didn’t show up
it's just an excuse that companies pretty much do now, i've seen kids seeing creepy shit and didn't have a big reaction. also, what's the point on making a movie about a dark story about corporations and corruption kid friendly??
Unfortunately, movies are made by artists and sold by corporations, so they get clipped whenever the brand is in danger. If artists alone had control, who knows what we could have had?
I only skimmed the comments, so I don't know if anyone else has pointed out that it appears the onceler is wearing a wedding ring as he's putting on the gloves. Could be reading too far into it, but since he's alone in the story, I'm guessing its meant to show that he chose his company over love.
@@vyx3872 hmmm, not sure,,,, actually it looks like a young version of Teds grandma! Maybe they were dating/were going to get married, had Teds mom? Maybe that’s why his grandpa isn’t around? It could be a fun theory! The Oncelers mom had straight blonde hair and a bigger nose, also the fox scarf… it could be cool if that was teds granny when younger.
love the fact that you included some of the imagery from the movie, especially near the end with the giant onceler looming over the forest creatures. that’s a powerful image on its own, and it works ten times better with the climax of biggering instead of the climax of how bad can i be.
A fanfic version of Lorax for Biggering is better. The Lorax: The Biggering Cut A very long movie longer that an hour and 30 minutes that makes development better and give characters more depth.
@@natschema @natschema his face disappearing was the best part it gave me actual goosebumps and may I ask it may come off as a bit rude but is the background at 4:32 their are stars at the top left and the clouds look likebstripes in the background is that suppose to represent usa or am I looking too much into it
I just realized that during the Lorax’s section, the chorus in the background is actually repeating him with a slight delay. Just another reason to love this song
One thing I noticed is that one newspaper says Trends 1964 while another later one says 1972: What awaits. Implying that The Once-Ler spends years tearing apart the environment for profit
I love how as the song goes on, the Once-ler’s face get shown less and less until his face is completely obscured. It’s a perfect representation of how he’s becoming corrupted and how he eventually becomes a completely empty shell of his former self.
Yeah, it does sound like an perfect representation of how far the Once-ler have fallen with letting greed and pride both consuming him. And yet Illumination thought it would be "too dark" for kids and instead made "How Bad Can I Be?" in the final cut.
@@billymccrary2246 no they cut it because it full on called out the corruption in cooperate businesses which they were too scared to do. The person who wrote Biggering and the original script said that illumination immediately made him redo everything to fit what they wanted for the movie
@@WrathVirusOfficial As I understand it, this song belongs to an original script where the plot was closer to the original material and was darker, like Thneedville was going to have darker tones like they can't see the sun because of the pollution, the buildings are broken, etc, and Ted's motivation was different, he only wanted the tree to have something that others don't have (basically greed) this is in the thneedville demo song, I remember that the writer mentioned that Illumination forced Ted's motivation to change. wanting the tree for a girl (something he didn't like) eliminate biggering and make a friendly movie
@@WrathVirusOfficial If you can see that the movie had potential just by listening to this song and the others that were eliminated from the movie that told a darker story closer to the original material, it's a shame that Illumination didn't give the writers creative freedom.
Biggering had the potential of being an iconic villain moment in animated history. But instead we got how bad can I be, catchy corporate song but a huge let down by comparison.
@@catarinalunar Considering how the majority of their films budgets are put towards marketing, and only really meet the bare minimum of a 5/6 out of 10, they aren’t improving.
And Microsoft and Apple and G--gle and Unilever and Nestlé and Tyson and Heinz and Yum! Brands and Frito-Lays and Coca-Cola and Dr. Pepper/7-Up and dozens, hundreds, maybe even thousands more. We've effectively sold our future for convenience. Doesn't matter in the slightest if we started the fire or not-- we keep the furnaces of global market capitalism lit and smoldering. The day of reckoning, though not at hand yet, is inevitable, and it will be painful.
@@a-s-greig Considering that capitalism is the only real way we can keep society afloat at this point is what makes it difficult however. Socialism has bee. Tried and lead to horrors beyond excuse and even countries such as Sweden that people like to describe as socialist swore it off because it was struggling under that system. We can't go back to bartering as it is not a instant transaction over distances. We cannot force companies to stop because then the people there will lose their way of maintaining themselves and we've seen that government sucks at helping. It's just how it seems to be, we either dismantle ourselves completely, which countries like China will never and would seize such an opportunity. Or we eventually come to a head with the only set of systems that we know truly works for more than a few decades. It's sad.
@@stealthbrawler If we're gonna pull through, we at least gotta find local answers to supply chain breakdowns. Return to subsistence agriculture, rely less on insane transportation distance for stupidly cheap disposable items. Bartering may be a thing of the past, but actually tracing out what should be coming from where and how far it should reasonably go makes a whole lot more sense for a sustainable future than international markets for junk food and a single contested pacific island being responsible for producing most of the world's semiconductors.
@@stealthbrawler Capitalism is not synonymous with or correlated to corpocracy, that is due to the neglect and unwillingness to control it in order to fill their own pockets of political bureaucrats, thus Companies keep getting more and more powerful so much so they have a stranglehold or could have a stranglehold on anything if they send enough money that way. Change can be made without the cost of the economy and of people's livelihoods though difficult that option is there and will continue to unless something isn't stopped. Furthermore Socialism is not synonymous with dictatorship it has only been tried a handful of times and each time has led to disaster mainly due to the fact that Socialism in these cases never came around legally and or naturally instead being forced on by strife where it is easy for power to be wrested from the hands that seek improvement look at Stalin in this instance, but that is not due to Socialism itself.
4:05 That look really touched me. On the cusp of success and wealth, deep down he feels guilty, but he's already lost control of himself to hold back his greed
I almost thought it was annoyance because the Lorax was still desperately trying to save him, but seeing your explanation it does feel even more painful
4:06 got me as well. It’s a really amazing detail a few people have noticed. A flashback between the heartbroken Lorax and a horrified Ted who’s listening to the empty shell of a man who tells the terrifying tale of how the trees ACTUALLY stopped growing. Honestly, while I enjoy HBCIB, Biggering DEFINITELY would’ve made the big leagues as one of the best animated villain songs in history.
Aaaaa, this is so good! I love how the Oncelers face gets progressivelly darker as he looses his humanity and practically becomes his company. Also, a smaller detail, but I really like how you showed the Onceler smoking a cigar, since cigars are aften used to represent wealth and power. Again, awesome work!
@@natschema a person asked why the song was cut, because it was too dark. It is all about plausible deniability, the main person was "obvious" to it all. So he was made to look innocent so stuff like that is intentional.
This wasn't cut because it was "too relentlessly dark" for kids to handle. It was cut because the company funding the production team didn't want to portray corporate business in a negative light. And I actually think this illuminates the dangers of greed and portrays the once ler in a much more direct alignment with the original story. The more I watch this, the more I am disappointed that concepts like this didn't make it into the final movie.
When I first heard of this song, and how people were comparing it to the classic Disney villain song "Hellfire," I was *very* sceptical. Now I weep for what could have been. A goddamn rock opera extravaganza representing the Onceler's pride, becoming louder and more opulent, drowning out and burying his conscience.
I absolutely LOVE how much you referenced the original faceless Onceler. That is something so crucial to the original story and seeing how you adapted it fills me with glee
Yeah, the entire point of the Onceler in the original story is that he can be anyone, an allegory that all of us are just as prone to the greed and pride that corrupted him into making a horrible mistake, hence why he's faceless. A version like this that slowly causes him to literally lose himself until he becomes a shadow with arms would have been the perfect modernization of that concept, as everything that makes us who we are can and will erode and be erased by greed and pride if we allow it, and thus become the Onceler. It also, however, served to show that the Onceler was not beyond redemption either as he also represented how anyone can rebound from such mistakes too, as he kept that final seed and protected it by learning his lesson. It would have been incredible for a darker toned Lorax movie to have the Onceler in the post-book setting to slowly regain and colors and face by helping the protagonists, literally regaining his humanity in a sense.
@@worthybutter2004 The meta narrative reason is due to not trusting himself, as he is the one who started the mess in the first place. It's kind of like why Gandalf didn't trust himself to throw the One Ring into Mt. Doom himself: he knows that he can't trust himself to do what must be done so instead he looks for someone more reliable to guide and help to do so. It's a layer of a redemption narrative that shows that the road to redemption can be broken and undone if not careful, kind of like trying to rebound from a drug addiction.
It's scary at 4:16, and I don't see many people mention this, that when he says, "who cares if some things are dying," his contraption cuts the tree down and lands right onto a group of animals, killing them. Not just trees and bugs die, but those animals die too. I wouldn't be surprised if humans died from this ordeal too, such as the workers or innocent people
Tbh something like that shouldve been shown in film, Onceler in film looks like hes kind harmless guy and with scenes like those it would show how sinful onceler is more clearly
If you notice, it’s also a reference to the 1972 animated special with the shot of the crowd gathered around the “To Our Beloved Once-Ler” statue in celebration.
@@cookecountryballs7196I also love the context of the scene, with the Lorax there, and terrified that crowds of people are cheering on the man who betrayed him, causing him to want to keep on Biggering.
Just some of the MANY things I love about this storyboard: -The references to the OG movie with the Oncler's gloves only being visible for a few shots -The idea of Oncler's cigar becoming the smog from the factories is GENIUS -Oncler getting the Truffula seed at the end is a nice way of explaining how he has it later -4:23 THIS SHOT -4:34 THIS FUCKING SHOT Just a fucking fantastic job!
It is also worth mentioning the choir at 3:33 and what the Onceler is saying during the ceremony. If you think about it, they aren't actually singing Biggering but a rather nice song to celebrate the Thneedville opening ceremony, and the Onceler is probably telling a speech to cheer the crowd. However, we as the audience know the truth of the consequences of the Onceler's success, so practically they think they are praising a hero when in reality they are praising pride and greed, and the Onceler knows it.
No one gonna bring up how fucking dope it was when you switched to the old man Onceler talking to Ted? Makes it feel more epic like this is the Onceler singing it to Ted while imagining what happened
It's like there's still a small part of Onceler that still gets a rush from that successful man he once was and it scares Ted and maybe himself. Or specifically he is emphasizing that fearful nightmarish aspect of himself because it still traumatizes him and he wants to ensure that Ted really listens and takes it to heart so it doesn't happen again.
@@natschema It's the devil's favorite sin too if you've ever watched The Devil's Advocate with Keanu Reeves lol Fantastic job on the video btw. You really captured the essence of this song and story while paying respects to Seuss and Illumination visually, all while making it your own. Bravo! Brava! Bravissima 👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾
It also makes sense, since Pride is also sometimes deemed 'the original sin', due to the rest of the sins being able to be let back to Pride. In this case, the Onceler's Pride led to the sins of Greed, as seen by him furthering his own company, and Gluttony, taking more and more for his own benefit while giving next to nothing in return.
There’s something so incredibly hard hitting about 4:06, the disappointed expressions on the Lorax and the Kid’s face as he looks up at the man who caused all of the destruction, the green gloves still tying him back to his mistakes and holding him responsible. He truly is displayed as monstrous, but… Scarily human in a way. I’m not sure how they managed to so perfectly capture the vibe of the Onceler in a single song, but dam, they really managed to do it. … And then they went and dropped it for HOW BAD CAN I BE. Absolutely incredibly. At least we have talented artists on youtube to show what could’ve been.
It's the eyes for me. The eyes of the one telling the story are wild. Angry. Scared. Desperate. It's the eyes of someone whose seen the worst, done the worst, caused the worst, and is desperately and almost furiously trying to warn this poor confused and even more scared child of what has happened and what will repeat. Like he knows this is his and everything last chance, so much so they can barely process the sadness and pain in the eyes of a child as you tell them you are the reason their life is how it is, that the world is as broken and damaged as it is. And all he can hope for is this kid hears him through the pain and hate he may feel towards the monster trying to fix the world far to late.
Somebody spent the time writing a song that would've sent the message plain as day to the audience, but Illumination Studios said "that's a little too honest". If this song made it into the movie, I full heartily believe this would've saved the entire movie
It's like how the creators of oral wrote all of that script, but then adult swim said it was "too dark" even though they wanted it to get more dark. It's pretty dumb.
Just watched this back to back with the final film’s “How Bad Can I Be?” And while I like that song, this is just superior in every way. More sophisticated, more emotional, more dramatic, and a clearer message. Your animatic conveys all of that perfectly!
Don't be ridiculous. You know, in your heart of hearts, that the best thing to do would have been to have How Bad Can I Be? immediately be followed by a short-very short-bridge that leads directly into Biggering.
I really like how as it progresses his face becomes obscured while his hands are highlighted and focused. That would have been a real beautiful direction in storytelling considered you only see his hands and arms in the book.
@@zer289 Yup. It would put Once-ler into the perspective of the consumer by that point, since after his company's initial hype started to dwindle a little, people no longer personally think anything of the Once-ler himself, they instead think of his corporation first
I really love how you have the onceler yell "I won't stop" to the lorax at 3:54, like the onceler is throwing all of the lorax's efforts to save him and the environment straight back in his face. it's really that last straw that makes it clear that he's too far gone to listen
This episode, if animated with the song, would've singlehandedly made a movie. It's not only has a references to an original book, but also expanding its plot to the some extent. In the original, Lorax tried to convince Onceler to at least adequately use the nature's resources for its industry, to keep both Industry and nature alive. And here, Lorax is fighting something way more deep - the reason of that inadequate behaviour in the first place - the Pride in Onceler himself. He's not trying to save the trees, but the Onceler. The Greed took over Onceler, and Lorax warns him to stop feeding the internal beast, or it will grow bigger. But Onceler response is "You know what? I WANT it to grow bigger. And bigger. *AND BIGGER.* "
His face disappearing in oil and the gold coins dripping from the cigar gave me chills, imagine how powerful the movie would have been with this song and these scenes!
honestly it’s infuriating that they cut this song cause this would have been the perfect villain song for the once ler showing that it was not greed that turned him into this it was pride and anymore can easily become like this
@@liam6170 Exactly!! That was the whole point of the onceler originally. It’s easy for us to say “well I’m not that greedy, that would never happen to me.” But you know what’s so much easier to relate to than greed? Pride. Everyone has pride. It’s why we reflexively get defensive or hurt when someone points out our mistakes and flaws. It’s why we want others to love us, sometimes to the point of hiding who we truly are. It’s even why we hate ourselves, because our pride makes us feel like we need to be an unreachable ideal. Ah, it’s late and I’m rambling, but I hope that I said something that makes sense lol
@@axuwu6939I feel like what they should have done with the Once ler is that they should have made it so at the beginning he was just a small business man trying to just get by without causing harm to the trees or the environment and they could even show the Once lers and Lorax becoming good friends over time but over time you see the Once lers pride slowly grow over time were a part of him try's to convince himself to start chopping the trees down at first to make it faster but he refuses at first but over time he keeps trying to convince himself to do it until he finally lets his pride get the better of him becoming what he became in the song biggering but that's just my opinion
I really love how, at the end, the choir is saying "I won't stop biggering", as a reminder and reasurement to the Once-Ler that he needs to go on and keep destroyong. It could be interpreted that the choir is the Once-Ler's pride, telling him that it's what he's meant to do
I like how they keep the essence of the green gloves alive. A very important feature of the original story, and as Once ler loses his human essence and the only thing that is seen are his green gloves. The storyboard is amazing.
3:28-3:30 This is my 2nd favourite shot, the shot of Lorax being terrified as it reveals that to the Lorax, the people down there are cheering him on , making him Biggering more and more
This is the second amazing storyboard of this song I've seen so far. Now I don't wanna sound TOO ambitious but I'm just saying that with the growing numbers of people becoming aware of how they bastardised this movie, the fact that a lot of them are artists and that this story has in inherent environmentalist cause attached to it that could motivate certain individuals or groups to give it avid support... can it be done? Could a fan remake of the Lorax be done? *Should* it be done if it's possible to make it happen?
If any indie film does give it a go, then they *have* to add in "Biggering." It's too good to leave as just a soundtrack and some storyboards. It stays true to Dr. Seuss' original vision, it humanises the Once-ler, makes us understand why he never stops or slows down, and shows how anyone can go from an innocent harmless soul to a corporate sociopath. Not to mention the Lorax himself has more weight and agency added to his character, as he's not just trying to save the environment, but he's also trying to save the Once-ler from himself.
My favorite part is probably the Lorax and his monologue. Normally in the movie he doesn't really pose a threat and is just kind of s goofy little man, but in this he sounds serious and I really like that side of him. Something about the Lorax just not holding back and calling the Once-ler a Meatface or and idiot is just good to me.
I love that there is nods to not only the 2012 adaptation which although the technical worst adaptation still has many great and familiar visuals that are definitely feel at home in a Dr. Seuss word. Along a couple of visual elements from the storyboard by Whysoanimated/Gloriadrewthis. So overall, A+.
every now and again i come back to this because of how fucking amazing it is, but one thing that really just gets me is at 4:06 the onceler's EYES BRO. the desperate eyes while he's explaining his story and the cut backs to ted and the lorax and how scared ted looks is just so captivating and awful, but in the best way because of how deeply unsettling it is. i absolutely love how wild and unhinged he looks
I like also like the nod to the original lorax with the oncelers green gloves the only thing being highlighted while his clothes are greyed and face obscured by darkness, like the OG onceler just being a pair of gloves
@@RealDmrau567 I know you mean well and are smart but it’s pride, you see the song is basically saying (well only the Lorax part) Greed is in are natural, but pride isn’t, pride makes us keep going, going until we hit a barrier, that’s basically the message of the song. But you don’t have to read this. You can just skip this!
Dude... this is infinitely better than "How bad can I be." Seriously, the false grandeur of the chorus and tone show that he thinks himself to be a magnate of humanity and progress and wealth. He knows that he's destroying everything, but what's the worth of someone else's everything compared to HIS everything? This song, especially toward the end, just hits the right buttons for "going forward, but in the wrong way." Waaay better than what we got. The visuals here are straight out of a kids movie as well. Not overly dark to be morbid for the kids (like dying animals and people suffering from pollution illnesses), but dark enough to get the message and tone across. Like him at his podium like a dictator, lights upon him from below, and his crazy smiling face as he justifies his horrible actions as well as him dripping with oil, face concealed, looming like a great demon over the land he rendered bare. Everything is perfect. He's dark and grizzled, but not overly so. This achieves a balance of kid-friendly and extremely dark and evil.
Reminds me of those old-school 2D-animated films that Don Bluth and Gary Goldman made WAY back in the 1980s and 1990s. They were kid-friendly, G-Rated and had cutesy characters, sure, but had their dark and malicious moments. Thumbelina, Pebble and the Penguin, All Dogs Go to Heaven, Ferngully, Secret of NIMH, Anastasia, An American Tail, etc.
The amazing thing about this song is you could remove the whole environmental/save the tree thing and it will still be great. The Lorax, rather than talking about the trees, he is talking about Greed and Pride and talks to the once-ler like a horrified friend seeing his friend turn into a monster. This doesn’t just apply to corporate greed, but and many other aspects of life.
That wouldve been dope, while the movie would less focus on the environment which was the main point of the OG lorax, this really hits farther home with the focus on human greed and pride
It really changes the context because Biggering portrays the Lorax not just trying to save the forest, but also the Onceler from himself. Really makes the Lorax way better as a character by highlighting how tragic his futile efforts were.
Dude you should get a kickstarter and make the Lorax the way it should have been made buy the rights to biggering from illumination and stick it in your movie as long as you don’t sell the movie as far as I’m aware you’re not violating copyright by remaking the movie, and I don’t think the kickstarter counts because that’s not you selling the movie that’s people paying you to make the movie. Plus making the movie free would be an excellent contrast to the story and a great way to ensure that many people can see it.
Your art style gave me life, I love the unhinged look that the Once-ler has, and he fully embraces a corrupted business with little things such as the cigar, the mockery of The Lorax by throwing his words back at him, and just how money-hungry his grins are. 10/10
I love how at the end, the onceler’s face slowly starts getting more obscured until you can’t see any of his facial figures. This was very well done, you’re very talented!
This song is so dark and cool that I still can't believe Illumination, one of the most childish and simplistic animation companies on the market, did this.
Well illumination one of the most childish and simplistic animation companies on the market Cut this song from the final movie The message was “too real” so they cut it and pretended that it was “too dark” Kinda shows how childish they are
Everyone’s seen the GODLE OG fanimatic on TH-cam, which is really true to the tone of the book, but what I love about yours is that you use designs and imagery from the movie. This was great!
@@WakerOfTheSky I feel like this animatic has some things over the other, but I think I prefer how the other one had that bit of the Onceler trying to shake hands with the Lorax and getting rejected by him. I prefer how Oncelers care for the enviroment and the friends he made slowly diminished right up until that point where he powers up the town.
@@thatguysinthecornertooelec3700yeah about that animatic I’m confused on the storyboard I have a lot of questions but my most important question is where is the once-ler singing the song? Also can you give me an full analysis about that Storyboard please
@@WakerOfTheSky For where the Onceler is singing in the final part...I dunno. I think him quietly and reluctantly thinking over what he's gonna do next while the music is blaring out makes for a great dramatic contrast, but still, I dunno. As for an analysis of the animatic as a whole, I couldn't really do it justice, but there are probably a dozen people who have in the comment section of that animatic, with a particularly great example being one that points out how the Lorax is symbolic of the Oncelers conscious (with him literally shown to be coming out of his chest, i.e. his heart).
Something I've noticed, this animation doesn't just reference the movie and the events that happened before the main story, but it also references the original 1976 animation, as the longer the video gets and the farther the once-ler goes into the corporate nightmare has created, his face eventually becomes a non-existent blur, in some frames you only see his arms and the iconic green gloves, which in a way references how he's barely human anymore and that those green gloves are the only things remaining of his once-great corporate empire... This song in this animatic truly tell the story of a once kind man with relatively Noble goals and it is dark descent into a hell of his own making..... Wow...
Nooo, you also had some sequences that were so SICK, DUDE! The last one where his face is all black and then you pass through the factory gave me so many chills. So good, so damn good
Me too, that’s the best, the pull back through the machinery, like…just *thinking* about it again gives me chills. This whole thing is so excellent, I’ve watched this video three times today (i only heard this song for the first time yesterday).
every single frame of this had me literally glued, but 3:35 and the part where the onceler crawls out jesus fucking christ. that was so intense, from the choir and the lorax looking so terrified, the perspective and the smile on the onceler's face AND THE REFLECTION IN THE GLASSES. this is so beautifully intense and horrible, i literally cant get over everything about this WELL DONE!!!!
Probably one of my favorite differences about both songs is that in “How Bad Can I Be?” The Onceler says ”Who cares if some trees are dying?” Whereas in “Biggering” he says “Who cares if some THINGS are dying?” The difference being that the Onceler in the cut version is far more aware of his actions than he was in “How Bad Can I Be?” and is fully aware that it isn’t just trees that are dying from what he is doing.
I love the little details in this! For example in the beginning, where it shows his desk, there's a photo of a lady which I assumps it's young Grammy Norma. And in the scene where it's only showing The Once Ler's hand. Which is a reference to the 1972 special and the Original book. Love it so muchh:
"Who care if somethings are dying? I don't wanna hear your crying!" The Lorax to a New Gen: I didn't just loose the trees.... I lost a good friend as well. He wasn't even the Once-Ler anymore. He was monster, beyond coming back. Money corrupts, and it corrupted him to the point I don't think even he regonized himself.
This makes it more shocking since we see how a friendship is destroyed little by little. In this song, the Lorax not only wanted to save the trees, he wanted to save the once-ler.
This is awesome, I really like how you blended some of the imagery from the movie with your own ideas, and I REALLY love the bit at 3:28 where you showed the green Onceler arms from the book
A few parallels I noticed between How Bad Can I Be and Biggering: •In How Bad Can I Be, The Lorax is solely concerned with saving the truffula trees. In Biggering, not only is he trying to save the environment, he’s also trying to save the Onceler himself. •In How Bad Can I Be, the whole thing still remains somewhat catchy, despite the last part getting louder and more abrasive, whereas in Biggering, it’s not your convential song, but rather like those you hear in a musical: ones that tell a story. Its a biopic. While How Bad Can I Be constantly pleads its innocence, Biggering never even tries to mask what its doing. It never once tries to reassure or convince. It instead showcases a man's eventual descent into corporate greed and something toeing the line of insanity. •And the most interesting one, while in How Bad Can I Be it says “Who cares if a few trees are dying?,” Biggering instead uses the words, “Who cares if a few *things* are dying?” This is implying that instead of just the trees dying like we saw in the movie, like true industrial destruction, it ruins so much more than that. We’re talking animals and maybe even *people.* Conclusion? Take it for what you will. I think both songs are good, but to me, Biggering really does just pack more of a punch, specifically in that it is not afraid to lean on the darker side, whereas How Bad Can I Be simply asks the question, but never really gets the person thinking about it. And to everyone saying they wish this was in The Lorax instead, I totally agree. However, because Biggering is darker than the entirety of the movie combined, I feel like the movie would either have to be severely or entirely changed to make such a piece fit. And really, I don’t see Illumination doing a super serious type movie anytime soon. It’s just not their style.
2:54 I like the implication in this shot, that being that unlike in the final film, the mother doesn't actually want what's going on, but goes along with it for the sake of her son
I've been obsessed with this song and animatic for quite a bit now! It's SOOO good!! THIS is what Illumination should've done for the movie. Not only keep the song in, but also have them reference the original faceless Once-ler from Seuss' book. As a fan of Seuss, i've always been ticked off by how they gave the Once-ler a face, unlike the book where all we ever saw of his body was his glowing yellow eyes and, most famously, his green-gloved arms. Showing him fully just took away the mystery of the character. But what this artist came up with was a GENIUS idea: the Once-ler in the film could've become faceless as soon as he begins to lose his sanity. Imagine if that idea was incorporated into the feature. All in all, this was great to watch (even though i've already watched a few times before writing this comment). I honestly think you did Seuss' work justice better than most film studios have tried.
@@cookecountryballs7196 Yeah, but then again, they weren't a big studio at the time, having made only two films at this point. Despicable Me, which was well received and Hop which was poorly received. So, one good film, one bad film, where do we go from here? Plus, they're owned by Universal, a big corporation, which is, ironically, the very thing Seuss criticised in his book. I mean, how do you even make an anti-corporate movie when your studio is, in fact, owned by one? It'd be quite tricky to do so, i reckon. But here's hoping one day, The Lorax gets a proper adaptation that isn't the 1972 TV special.
As someone who’s been obsessed with Biggering for years, as well as the concept of the Lorax from the Original TV movie and the early draft of the 2012 film. I don’t know how I missed this but this animatic is literally perfect! The timings with the song is impressive, but you also created your own unique narrative around the song to portray the Oncelers rise! My favourite part is how you recreate the Onceler celebration from the 70s telemovie but with the addition of the Lorax as a public display. Literally putting him through the survival of the fittest! The Onceler is depicted as distant representation of capitalism to the citizens of Thneedville, using the classic hand iconography, but with the Lorax he gets all close and personal, his modern human face on full display. I also love how the Onceler commands the crowd like a Tsunami, a full demonstration of his ultimate capitalist control over the masses!
Holy shit. I love the call back to the original movie in this with the hands. I know my personal vision had Oncer's face be more and more hidden the more corrupted he got. No family or anything else. It was just his own huger driving his biggering and the more he fed it the more he was lost to it. I kinda wished the Lorax was just his own imagination and getting a glimpse at the end of him with the mustache and eyebrows like the Lorax. Him being the one saying, "Unless..."
This really does everything I want from a Biggering animatic. Most of them start out with the Once-Ler already big, but the song really seems to imply it starts off with him nearer the beginning of his journey. Doing it this way lets us really see the moment he looks at what he's doing and *decides* that Biggering is worth whatever he has to kill. And like other folks have said, increasingly darkening his face and letting him be symbolized more by his gloved hands, grasping to claim everything, really really works. That reworked shot from the original movie of him standing over the forest is *particularly* effective, with his face almost dripping with darkness like some kind of eldritch horror. Damn good work.
Loved that shot at 1:59-2:00 where Once-ler slips down a hill. Either to represent the metaphorical slippery slope or his slipping into corporate madness. Either way it is awesome!
I also love how he looks up to the swirling clouds to see the Lorax looking down at him. Almost as if he's being judged for his sins by God Himself. A man, corrupted beyond redemption in his lifetime, looking at the spirit whose home he destroyed.
I like the addition of the once ler smoking a cigar, creating more and more smoke to the point where it blocks his face at the end. We know exactly who made all that smoke appear
Honestly sucks that animation takes so long to make even in storyboard format like this because the visual flow and imagery you chose for the song are really good, like REALLY GOOD! Especially everything after 3:34 very creative, very fitting and emotionally very powerful, But it's very rough sometimes and it hurts the watch experince but damn was that well put together, I can definitely see you getting hired as a storyboard artist with just a bit more polish
4:05 - 4:10 This part reminds you that the Once-ler is telling the story to the kid. The Once-ler isn't holding back. He's channeling the same cruel, manic energy that drove him to destroy the valley, using it to tell the story to a disappointed and horrified boy. Also love how the boy and the Lorax are in the same spot, as the boy will be entrusted to carry on the Lorax's mission.
I love how you incorporated some of the How Bad Can I Be scene in this. Like this is probably what this song could’ve been had Illumination kept it in.
Wow, where do I even begin? I love the context clues that the Lorax exists in the Once-Ler's imagination (honestly I wish they took that angle with the film). I love how gradual you can see Onceler changing from his humble beginnings to faceless corporate emperor of Thneedville. There's even a reference to the first movie where you only see his green gloves peaking out of the doorway as he's gesturing to his new "utopia" (soon-to-be-dystopia) to the Lorax. I also really like that he goes from ignoring the Lorax to straight up bullying him as he shoves him around. Also, I did notice certain shots were repurposed from "How Bad Can I Be" into this with much more sinister ~flair~ and it's married with the song so well. 10/10 storyboard I'm floored.
-Use a ton of the budget on an amazing song -Make the song accurately portray corporate greed -Oops, that sounds like us -Cancel the song -Make a crappy song that portrays companies much lighter -Refuse to elaborate -Release the movie
Kinda sad that The Lorax, a book about the negative effects of capitalist greed over (this case) nature was transformed into a marketable product subtracting all the deep and dark meaning of the original source material just to sell it better and be able to sponsor it widely, by... a company. Awesome work done here buddy, you really made me have goosebumps with that smoke scene.
Watching this was legitimately terrifying. When it ended up cutting to the scene of the Once-ler's auditorium with the people singing, just like the 1972 short, it honestly really hit me in a way I wasn't expecting. I don't think I've been so afraid and inspired and in awe all at once in a long time. You really brought this song to life. This is the version we deserved.
Excellent use of color and just great all around. The jaded expression you give the Onceler imparts a great sense of time and everything he's already willingly done to get where he is. Parts I especially liked: 01:45 with the Lorax appearing on the Oncler shoulder like a conscience even though it's not where he's physically standing, and 03:54 where he's saying, "I won't stop," directly to the Lorax , deliberately turning away from other options.
This implies that the Lorax can still see his old self and does everything possible to save him and return to what he was before, but unfortunately it is too late.
I like the idea that I saw in one discussion about the two songs saying How Bad Could I Be could have happened earlier in the movie and Biggering could have been the dark reprisal with The Onceler becoming more and more corrupt and less apologetic. All they would have to do is remove the end of How Bad Can I Be and I think it could work.
@@redstreak9430 That's what I've been saying since I heard this song for the first time: "How Bad Can I Be?" would be the first version of the song with the Onceler being more innocent and human, then slowly transforming into a greedy business man coming up with "Biggering" as the reprise. I could've been so great.
This song and this animatic in particular are up there with the presentation from some of the greatest animated musical numbers: Hellfire from Hunchback and The Plagues from Prince of Egypt. Striking visuals, operatic choir, and just absolutely hard hitting in every way
i am extremely late to this but wow, i've watched loads of Biggering storyboards lately and this one takes the cake as the best one i've seen. the amount of research done for this and the references are just second to none, really good work
I know this is repeating a lot of other comments, but basically every shot in this is amazing. The symbolisms in it are amazing, and something I noticed on a repeat watch is the always darkening backgrounds showing the onceler’s transition into cooperate madness. And this is something to do more with the song itself, but I love how in the first half it sounds a lot more like a 70’s sort of psychedelic rock, almost kind of surf rock style song, then it turns into a sort of hard rock song similar to that of a band like muse. I love every part of this.
I actually really like this storyboard version. I like how you took inspiration from the original movie and book, and how after the wardrobe change, you started focusing more on just the arms, and showing more and more of the Once-ler's face hidden in shadow. It made it feel like throughout the song, the Once-ler was losing his identity to greed and corruption until nothing of who he once was was left. Added more weight to it I think.
Details i loved in this: (btw this is my 4th comment on this video lol i just keep coming back) 0:59, i like how he programmed his desk to lift up whenever he wants just reminding himself that he is in charge, he is so coaught up in his ego that he litteraly raises up his desk just to give himself the feeling of being superior. 2:12 now i can't really tell but i see this as if he is running from the trees being cut down (he is basically running away from his mistakes and trying his hardest to ignore them), that is just brilliant! oh and that suit up scene in 2:24? PURE PERFECTION!!! Now not many people have pointed it out, but at exactly 3:56 if you pause, you see the onceler's green arms are pulling the metal thing using the string above which could indicate that the onceler is pulling himself up, he has got so famous and popular that there is no human above him anymore, nobody can help him, only HE can help himself (am i going too deep? i might be...) Now everyone pointed it out but the scene at 4:04, i liked it, but i really didn't get much chills from it as i got in like the suit up scene idk why people are praising it that much. Still very creative tho. 4:23, THIS now THIS is the image that perfectly sums up any corprate company, them starring at you like they are bigger than you, better than you, with th eir world ending machines surrounding them, the smoke covering their face to show how mysterious they are, the positions their hands are in basically showing that they know what they are doing, they know it is bad but they "like it that way". And of couse, the last hope for the environement (the truffula seed) being ironicaly found in one of the pipes that keeps the workshop running, the same workshop that is contributing to the destruction of the environement showing that even if these companies are doing what they doing, deep inside they hope that some being, some minor coincidence can help them get rid of their greed. If you read all of the text, thank you :)
I love this so much! Just seeing him getting more and more corrupted and wanting to bigger his company is actually really nice to see. I want this fully animated even if it’s not in the movie, it’d just like to see it. This kinda answers some mystery questions I had surrounding the Onceler, like did he build Theadville or did someone else and he just had the idea?
This animatic is FILLED with so much GENIUS ideas, oh my god. I've been sitting with my jaw on the floor the whole time! Brilliant work, i'm simply speechless holy hell
I just realised that a slightly altered line is soooo much darker In the movie he sings "Who cares if a few trees are dying." In Biggering it's "Who cares if some *things* are dying." It was more than just the trees dying, it was the animals perishing from his greed too, and possibly people from the fumes...dang
Just a fun comparison, 1:02 3:42 I think one of the coolest things about this song is how the music is “biggering” as the song goes on. It’s a nice touch to the story this song tells
UNLESS there’s a chance that it could become a Broadway horror comedy musical, much like Little Shop of Horrors or even be the next adult R-rated version of Suessical for the next generations. This song would be included in the soundtrack and maybe have Ethan Slater as the Lorax along with many other well-known Broadway actors/actresses to play the characters we all know and love. I’d watch the musical in a heartbeat.
I love these re-imagining of the other story bord video, the transition from the past leading to the present. His eyes becoming more violent and deranged, and lastly how his face becomes more and more covered. With addition with his gloves becoming the only colored part of him, really giving a nice "Foreshadowing to his future self" (And a great callback to the original). I honestly love how this was put together, and would be hyped to hear if someone fully animated it :)
The Onceler gets darker and darker, with only his gloves being visible at times is a very nice callback to the original where only the Onceler's hands were shown.
Hey, shady doorags didn't expect to see you here. I know you as the guy who makes those great bojack horseman analysis vids(Granted you don't do those anymore because the shows over and what I assume you wanting to move on to different things) Also great detail you point out with The Onceler, because to me at least, it pays a good homage to the original classic while simultaniously repurposing scenes from the 2012 version which not only creates the best of both worlds, but shows The Oncelers decent into a shallow hallow corporate business CEO in a way that makes him realistic and terryfing.
Yes, i thibk they should keep on something similar, since it was meant to represent how the once-ler story could happen with anyone else, which was genius.
Darker yet darker
One could say he wants to keep his hands clean from his dirty work, that's for sure
@@gresdude3918 clever
I love how the final Truffula seed got stuck in his machine by mistake and him removing it to fix the error is how he obtained the environment‘s last hope. That was a legitimately powerful moment.
Maybe I’m not remembering something but I’m glad he actually finds the seed in this song instead of just having it out of nowhere
@@jjonahjameson8934 Nah, he really got it out of nowhere in the movie
Ah I had to watch that the second time. That actually makes sense.
That's great because it actually shows where he got it.
A perfect showing on how he's not too much of a monster and still has some semblance of remorse
This whole song could've saved the film a good percentage instead of feeling corporate
I absolutely love the comment made on the original story board
"Biggering is what really happened
How bad can I be is what they portray in the court"
Damn
Biggering is what actually happened.
How bad can I be is just how once-ler told it to ted.
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I don't blame him, he just wanted to make the story more family friendly for the ten year old boy outside his house who (knowing thneed-vill) hasn't heard a swear in his life.
@Klaus Blunk So, you're telling me the story the Once-Ler told Ted and us, the audience, wasn't the REAL story?! It was just a Pg version, but the actual version is so depressing?!
@@Mr.Needle-Hamster it would make a lot of sense if so
I fucking love how as time goes on, Onceler's face and body slowly becomes more obscured in darkness until only his green gloves are left visible. The pure-hearted man with dreams of grandeur is gone, replaced with the faceless embodiment of corporate greed that he was in the classic film. Such an incredible detail.
Agreed, like this is my favourite storyboard because it is just perfection in my eyes, also I also like that detail it really is so clever and I love it
When his face is covered by the oil it really finishes this image. He no longer has a face and is just pure greed at that point.
Something that really should've happened in the actual film.
And would be an nice transition.
I still can't believe they made a pink Floyd song for this film
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Would've made this movie better.
Such a shame that they cut it
Yos I inmediately thought of The Wall while listening to it
@@askatuproductions I think this would be a better "Dark side of the moon" track
This wasn't cut because it was "too relentlessly dark" for kids to handle. It was cut because the company funding the production team didn't want to portray corporate business in a negative light.
They didn't want to expose themselves.
@@LeoSan031 I find it so humorous when corporations attempt to get people to sympathize for them in subtlety through articulating themselves to be innocent within the confines of scripted scenarios like "How Bad Can I Be, I'm Just Doing What Comes Naturally". And I always shake my head at how people literally fall for it, and then try to use the legacies of these animation companies to boost enthusiasm. It's like they're falling into exactly what this story was supposed to warn everyone about.
@@vibes8930 yeah like, also, what is even wrong that kids might get scared by this song? it's not like it's gonna give them a temporal trauma or full time nightmares, capitalism and greedy corporations are something to be taken seriously and not as "oh yeah, they're giving us money to buy you clothes or toys, etc etc, they're important 😍" climate change exists and kids are pretty much gonna be aware of that.
@@nicoleflores2054 They gave kids an unrealistic idea of how corporate America really is just because the company that animated this didnt want to make something that went against their motives. And I would be more mellow about it if this wasn't an expansion of a classic story, but not only does it fail to deliver on the foundation that it is one, it's a deliberate misfire because Illumination Entertainment wanted to water down the meanings of the themes of what made this story what it was for optimal benefit... *for themselves.* We as a people should be able to convey lessons to one another and listen to one another, not be prohibited from preaching valuable morals because companies don't want to participate with us in admitting to their errors.
@@nicoleflores2054 it really is ironic because everything here is exactly what Dr Deuss's book was trying to tell us about
One thing I appreciate in this animatic is how the Lorax shows the Onceler what he's doing to the environment during the Greed bit before all the trees are gone. Really emphasizes how he knows deep down that what he's doing is wrong but continues doing it for the sake of his pride.
Hes at the point of no return and he knows it.
The movie almost got it right, but they screwed it up by failing to take the final step. They refused to give the Onceler agency and instead went for the plausible deniability route, and the Onceler's character and the film's message about environmentalism and corporate greed suffered as a result of Illumination's cowardice and adamant refusal to face reality.
yeah he admits he knows its bad, that its hurting the environment, he listens to the lorax, and ignores his warnings. then he wishes he had listened. the movie once-ler is a super toned-down version of this, except they make it seem more like he isn't aware that what he's doing is hurting the environment. he's a dumber version of the once-ler
His Pride definitely is at a High since he never blames Greed. Money doesn't blind someone, but rather they Pride. A lot of companies may not even listen to their community because they are higher and they think the choices that they make is better than what communities and others may say.
Onceler Pride is showing little care to the ones lower to him as he is now above them all. He is showing no care especially when he says "Who cares if some things are dying" showing that he literally knows his actions are wrong but his Pride is getting the better of him. He literally DOESN'T care about what the lorax and them are going to until all the trees are cut and his pride cannot be fed
It’s almost like the Lorax is his conscience, even being his shadow in the hallway scene. And the Lorax is him depressing his conscience.
The new Amazon's biopic looks lit.
Bello trovarti qui sotto, Mortebianca
I thought it was Facebook.
@@itsblitz4437 I thought it was Nestle
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4:03 this would've hit like a truck in the movie. The flashes between a past conflicted Oncler and an empty one telling the story, and the disappointed Lorax mixing with a terrified child listening to what happened. It would've stuck out and that's what illumination was afraid of.
And it's purely shown through a visual design
No explaining or needless exposition
I'm pretty sure I heard that higher ups were worried about getting a bad rep or something
@@Owenbot3000 there’s a soulless irony to a huge corporation taking on a film about corporate greed and the environmental damages.
they’ve ruined so much of what the original message was, and it makes me miserable to know because the children are too naive to know or recognise that
@@lunos5026 kids arent THAT naive. show them the book and they'll figure out how empty the illumination movie is
@@Sputterbug oh absolutely but most probably won’t read the book. the worst part is kids are not stupid. they would have understood the message that the onceler CAN be bad and isn’t just misunderstood.
Also the message about over consumption was vital. i’m pissed off that they thought kids wouldn’t get that.
4:06 ted realises how big of a monster the man was he is talking to
He must’ve been like, “Holy crap! He’s beginning to sound like Mr. O’Hare!”, given that Audrey’s tree mural being cleaned off was foreshadowing on what happens next in the Once-Ler’s story.
The story of the Onceler has the potential to be one of the most tragic yet captivating tales in modern animation. I hope it’s given the chance one day.
UNLESS
Pretty sure universal own the rights now so...
I will do it myself someday
UNLESS.
-UNLESS SOMEONE LIKE YOU CARE'S A WHOLE AWFUL LOT NOTHING IS GOING TO GET BETTER IT'S NOT-
They can’t even say this is “too dark for kids”, I showed this to my 8 year old brother and then watched the Lorax with him, and he was actually upset when Biggering didn’t show up
it's just an excuse that companies pretty much do now, i've seen kids seeing creepy shit and didn't have a big reaction.
also, what's the point on making a movie about a dark story about corporations and corruption kid friendly??
Unfortunately, movies are made by artists and sold by corporations, so they get clipped whenever the brand is in danger. If artists alone had control, who knows what we could have had?
Honestly I don’t even dislike this film, it was fun, but it could have been great and that makes me sad
I want to learn to animate
@@sneakaboo3486 same
I only skimmed the comments, so I don't know if anyone else has pointed out that it appears the onceler is wearing a wedding ring as he's putting on the gloves. Could be reading too far into it, but since he's alone in the story, I'm guessing its meant to show that he chose his company over love.
Yes, right on point
0:49
You could see a photo of his wife(?
pretty sure thats his mom
@@vyx3872 hmmm, not sure,,,, actually it looks like a young version of Teds grandma! Maybe they were dating/were going to get married, had Teds mom? Maybe that’s why his grandpa isn’t around? It could be a fun theory! The Oncelers mom had straight blonde hair and a bigger nose, also the fox scarf… it could be cool if that was teds granny when younger.
I actually realized he was wearing a wedding ring when he puts his gloves on the first time I watched this video.
I love how the Onceler is shown smoking cigars. He’s becoming addicted to them as he becomes addicted to biggering.
Damn I didn't knew that
Nice observation
The visual metaphor of the consumer voting with their dollar.
love the fact that you included some of the imagery from the movie, especially near the end with the giant onceler looming over the forest creatures. that’s a powerful image on its own, and it works ten times better with the climax of biggering instead of the climax of how bad can i be.
Thank you! I was afraid I was a bit extra on making his face disappearing into schloppity-schlopp (oil). Glad that is worked out well :)
@@natschema yeah of course dude. thought this animatic was a good combination of the movie and the animatic everyone already knows for biggering
A fanfic version of Lorax for Biggering is better.
The Lorax: The Biggering Cut
A very long movie longer that an hour and 30 minutes that makes development better and give characters more depth.
@@natschema @natschema his face disappearing was the best part it gave me actual goosebumps and may I ask it may come off as a bit rude but is the background at 4:32 their are stars at the top left and the clouds look likebstripes in the background is that suppose to represent usa or am I looking too much into it
@@Ahmadabdal_ I believe that’s supposed to represent pollution being so bad you can’t properly see the stars
I just realized that during the Lorax’s section, the chorus in the background is actually repeating him with a slight delay. Just another reason to love this song
I also heard a Hammond Organ in the Lorax’s section. It’s hard to hear though.
I’m glad I’m not the only one who heard that too.
I hear that in alot if things when i listen to them, its all i focus on
One thing I noticed is that one newspaper says Trends 1964 while another later one says 1972: What awaits. Implying that The Once-Ler spends years tearing apart the environment for profit
Also I like years
69 likes! *_O H Y E A H_*
Nice one
i mean. its taking us decades towards destroyed the environment. the onceler is so greedy he fucking speed ran it in 8 years
@@lewismartin3430 Glitchless
this scene wouldve literally changed my life if I saw it in theaters as a kid
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I love how as the song goes on, the Once-ler’s face get shown less and less until his face is completely obscured. It’s a perfect representation of how he’s becoming corrupted and how he eventually becomes a completely empty shell of his former self.
Yeah, it does sound like an perfect representation of how far the Once-ler have fallen with letting greed and pride both consuming him.
And yet Illumination thought it would be "too dark" for kids and instead made "How Bad Can I Be?" in the final cut.
@@billymccrary2246 no they cut it because it full on called out the corruption in cooperate businesses which they were too scared to do.
The person who wrote Biggering and the original script said that illumination immediately made him redo everything to fit what they wanted for the movie
@@WrathVirusOfficial As I understand it, this song belongs to an original script where the plot was closer to the original material and was darker, like Thneedville was going to have darker tones like they can't see the sun because of the pollution, the buildings are broken, etc, and Ted's motivation was different, he only wanted the tree to have something that others don't have (basically greed) this is in the thneedville demo song, I remember that the writer mentioned that Illumination forced Ted's motivation to change. wanting the tree for a girl (something he didn't like) eliminate biggering and make a friendly movie
@@estrella-om7tu would have been better than what they gave us that’s for sure
@@WrathVirusOfficial If you can see that the movie had potential just by listening to this song and the others that were eliminated from the movie that told a darker story closer to the original material, it's a shame that Illumination didn't give the writers creative freedom.
Biggering had the potential of being an iconic villain moment in animated history. But instead we got how bad can I be, catchy corporate song but a huge let down by comparison.
this could've changed illumination's career tbh
@@nicoleflores2054 for Illumination's career to change, they have to be the ones to change first
@@vriska9001 some of their movies are raising quality tho
How Bad Can I Be? and Biggering are perfect companion pieces to each other though, the former immediately followed by the latter.
@@catarinalunar Considering how the majority of their films budgets are put towards marketing, and only really meet the bare minimum of a 5/6 out of 10, they aren’t improving.
All I can think of when lessening to this song is corporations like Disney and Amazon and how they keep on biggering.
And Microsoft and Apple and G--gle and Unilever and Nestlé and Tyson and Heinz and Yum! Brands and Frito-Lays and Coca-Cola and Dr. Pepper/7-Up and dozens, hundreds, maybe even thousands more.
We've effectively sold our future for convenience.
Doesn't matter in the slightest if we started the fire or not-- we keep the furnaces of global market capitalism lit and smoldering. The day of reckoning, though not at hand yet, is inevitable, and it will be painful.
@@a-s-greig Considering that capitalism is the only real way we can keep society afloat at this point is what makes it difficult however. Socialism has bee. Tried and lead to horrors beyond excuse and even countries such as Sweden that people like to describe as socialist swore it off because it was struggling under that system.
We can't go back to bartering as it is not a instant transaction over distances.
We cannot force companies to stop because then the people there will lose their way of maintaining themselves and we've seen that government sucks at helping.
It's just how it seems to be, we either dismantle ourselves completely, which countries like China will never and would seize such an opportunity. Or we eventually come to a head with the only set of systems that we know truly works for more than a few decades.
It's sad.
@@stealthbrawler If we're gonna pull through, we at least gotta find local answers to supply chain breakdowns. Return to subsistence agriculture, rely less on insane transportation distance for stupidly cheap disposable items. Bartering may be a thing of the past, but actually tracing out what should be coming from where and how far it should reasonably go makes a whole lot more sense for a sustainable future than international markets for junk food and a single contested pacific island being responsible for producing most of the world's semiconductors.
@@stealthbrawler Capitalism is not synonymous with or correlated to corpocracy, that is due to the neglect and unwillingness to control it in order to fill their own pockets of political bureaucrats, thus Companies keep getting more and more powerful so much so they have a stranglehold or could have a stranglehold on anything if they send enough money that way. Change can be made without the cost of the economy and of people's livelihoods though difficult that option is there and will continue to unless something isn't stopped. Furthermore Socialism is not synonymous with dictatorship it has only been tried a handful of times and each time has led to disaster mainly due to the fact that Socialism in these cases never came around legally and or naturally instead being forced on by strife where it is easy for power to be wrested from the hands that seek improvement look at Stalin in this instance, but that is not due to Socialism itself.
Capitalism - meh, its better than most.
Nordic/Socialist/Welfare Capitalism - hell yeah
4:05 That look really touched me. On the cusp of success and wealth, deep down he feels guilty, but he's already lost control of himself to hold back his greed
I almost thought it was annoyance because the Lorax was still desperately trying to save him, but seeing your explanation it does feel even more painful
4:09 Too
@@Aaa-vp6ugthat frame of the once-ler’s face engulfed in smog is so well done
4:06 got me as well. It’s a really amazing detail a few people have noticed. A flashback between the heartbroken Lorax and a horrified Ted who’s listening to the empty shell of a man who tells the terrifying tale of how the trees ACTUALLY stopped growing.
Honestly, while I enjoy HBCIB, Biggering DEFINITELY would’ve made the big leagues as one of the best animated villain songs in history.
Aaaaa, this is so good! I love how the Oncelers face gets progressivelly darker as he looses his humanity and practically becomes his company.
Also, a smaller detail, but I really like how you showed the Onceler smoking a cigar, since cigars are aften used to represent wealth and power.
Again, awesome work!
Thanks! I did realise in the movie why he doesn’t have that cigar, so I decided to add it.
@@natschema a person asked why the song was cut, because it was too dark. It is all about plausible deniability, the main person was "obvious" to it all. So he was made to look innocent so stuff like that is intentional.
I suppose they don't want to show tobacco related products because it would inspire kids to smoke.
This wasn't cut because it was "too relentlessly dark" for kids to handle. It was cut because the company funding the production team didn't want to portray corporate business in a negative light. And I actually think this illuminates the dangers of greed and portrays the once ler in a much more direct alignment with the original story. The more I watch this, the more I am disappointed that concepts like this didn't make it into the final movie.
@@vibes8930 one reason was that it was too relentlessly dark.
When I first heard of this song, and how people were comparing it to the classic Disney villain song "Hellfire," I was *very* sceptical. Now I weep for what could have been. A goddamn rock opera extravaganza representing the Onceler's pride, becoming louder and more opulent, drowning out and burying his conscience.
Also, these fan-made storyboards are *fucking amazing.*
Biggering could be the new helfire
@@frostyguy1989agreed, the storyboards have such a creative mind to them it’s nuts, this one is a example of it I FUCKING LOVE THIS OME
I absolutely LOVE how much you referenced the original faceless Onceler. That is something so crucial to the original story and seeing how you adapted it fills me with glee
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@@lucaslucas3670 Qué?
Yeah, the entire point of the Onceler in the original story is that he can be anyone, an allegory that all of us are just as prone to the greed and pride that corrupted him into making a horrible mistake, hence why he's faceless. A version like this that slowly causes him to literally lose himself until he becomes a shadow with arms would have been the perfect modernization of that concept, as everything that makes us who we are can and will erode and be erased by greed and pride if we allow it, and thus become the Onceler.
It also, however, served to show that the Onceler was not beyond redemption either as he also represented how anyone can rebound from such mistakes too, as he kept that final seed and protected it by learning his lesson. It would have been incredible for a darker toned Lorax movie to have the Onceler in the post-book setting to slowly regain and colors and face by helping the protagonists, literally regaining his humanity in a sense.
@@joshuakim5240 Why didn't he plant it himself tho?
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The meta narrative reason is due to not trusting himself, as he is the one who started the mess in the first place. It's kind of like why Gandalf didn't trust himself to throw the One Ring into Mt. Doom himself: he knows that he can't trust himself to do what must be done so instead he looks for someone more reliable to guide and help to do so. It's a layer of a redemption narrative that shows that the road to redemption can be broken and undone if not careful, kind of like trying to rebound from a drug addiction.
It's scary at 4:16, and I don't see many people mention this, that when he says, "who cares if some things are dying," his contraption cuts the tree down and lands right onto a group of animals, killing them. Not just trees and bugs die, but those animals die too. I wouldn't be surprised if humans died from this ordeal too, such as the workers or innocent people
That scene is very strong and dark. If that scene had come out, it would have become one of the darkets scenes
Tbh something like that shouldve been shown in film, Onceler in film looks like hes kind harmless guy and with scenes like those it would show how sinful onceler is more clearly
Noticed how the Onceler's arms are they only thing colored near the end. Very nice detail🙂
3:29 I love this scene, it was a great reference to the classic Onceler just by showing his arms.
If you notice, it’s also a reference to the 1972 animated special with the shot of the crowd gathered around the “To Our Beloved Once-Ler” statue in celebration.
@@colonelmustang854yeah the 1 millionth thneed
@@cookecountryballs7196I also love the context of the scene, with the Lorax there, and terrified that crowds of people are cheering on the man who betrayed him, causing him to want to keep on Biggering.
Just some of the MANY things I love about this storyboard:
-The references to the OG movie with the Oncler's gloves only being visible for a few shots
-The idea of Oncler's cigar becoming the smog from the factories is GENIUS
-Oncler getting the Truffula seed at the end is a nice way of explaining how he has it later
-4:23 THIS SHOT
-4:34 THIS FUCKING SHOT
Just a fucking fantastic job!
It is also worth mentioning the choir at 3:33 and what the Onceler is saying during the ceremony. If you think about it, they aren't actually singing Biggering but a rather nice song to celebrate the Thneedville opening ceremony, and the Onceler is probably telling a speech to cheer the crowd. However, we as the audience know the truth of the consequences of the Onceler's success, so practically they think they are praising a hero when in reality they are praising pride and greed, and the Onceler knows it.
@@arqueusdestar1715 oh illumination screw you
@@arqueusdestar1715 this is such incredibly analysis
@@nicoleflores2054 Thank you, I'm glad you think that.
Yeah I agree this storyboard art is close to the original storyboard, and kudos to the artist, took a lot of work to make this look good. Good job.
No one gonna bring up how fucking dope it was when you switched to the old man Onceler talking to Ted? Makes it feel more epic like this is the Onceler singing it to Ted while imagining what happened
IKR?
I only just made that connection.
Best part of the song and it’s like 2 seconds
It's like there's still a small part of Onceler that still gets a rush from that successful man he once was and it scares Ted and maybe himself. Or specifically he is emphasizing that fearful nightmarish aspect of himself because it still traumatizes him and he wants to ensure that Ted really listens and takes it to heart so it doesn't happen again.
Can imagine he's telling the boy "I don't wanna hear you cryin'!" as he's telling this part of the story.
damn, great way to show the utter crescendo into that maniacal pride and greed at the end
Thanks! Pride is my favorite sin in story telling.
@@natschema pride also the original 7 sins
@@natschema It's the devil's favorite sin too if you've ever watched The Devil's Advocate with Keanu Reeves lol
Fantastic job on the video btw. You really captured the essence of this song and story while paying respects to Seuss and Illumination visually, all while making it your own. Bravo! Brava! Bravissima 👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾
@@Regmuslima The Devil’s Advocate is one of my favorite movies. And Thank you 😊
It also makes sense, since Pride is also sometimes deemed 'the original sin', due to the rest of the sins being able to be let back to Pride. In this case, the Onceler's Pride led to the sins of Greed, as seen by him furthering his own company, and Gluttony, taking more and more for his own benefit while giving next to nothing in return.
There’s something so incredibly hard hitting about 4:06, the disappointed expressions on the Lorax and the Kid’s face as he looks up at the man who caused all of the destruction, the green gloves still tying him back to his mistakes and holding him responsible.
He truly is displayed as monstrous, but… Scarily human in a way. I’m not sure how they managed to so perfectly capture the vibe of the Onceler in a single song, but dam, they really managed to do it.
… And then they went and dropped it for HOW BAD CAN I BE. Absolutely incredibly.
At least we have talented artists on youtube to show what could’ve been.
It's the eyes for me. The eyes of the one telling the story are wild. Angry. Scared. Desperate. It's the eyes of someone whose seen the worst, done the worst, caused the worst, and is desperately and almost furiously trying to warn this poor confused and even more scared child of what has happened and what will repeat. Like he knows this is his and everything last chance, so much so they can barely process the sadness and pain in the eyes of a child as you tell them you are the reason their life is how it is, that the world is as broken and damaged as it is. And all he can hope for is this kid hears him through the pain and hate he may feel towards the monster trying to fix the world far to late.
Unfortunately, Illumination is run by spineless cowards who are too afraid to take any sort of risk or even stick one toe into mature topics.
Somebody spent the time writing a song that would've sent the message plain as day to the audience, but Illumination Studios said "that's a little too honest". If this song made it into the movie, I full heartily believe this would've saved the entire movie
Y se abria colocado como la mejor canción de un villano
Many times does HBCIB say “Biggering” but it never hits as much.
The (Cut) Song That Could Have Saved The Onceler
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It's like how the creators of oral wrote all of that script, but then adult swim said it was "too dark" even though they wanted it to get more dark. It's pretty dumb.
I love how the Oncelor’s work gloves get bigger, as if to emphasize how his ego and greed keep growing as he grows in wealth.
Just watched this back to back with the final film’s “How Bad Can I Be?” And while I like that song, this is just superior in every way. More sophisticated, more emotional, more dramatic, and a clearer message. Your animatic conveys all of that perfectly!
How bad can i be is a generic villain pop song while this is an emotional pink floyd parody
This is a way better villian song
A transition of one man's dream being corrupted by his greed and pride, the moment he sees the damage it's too late
Don't be ridiculous. You know, in your heart of hearts, that the best thing to do would have been to have How Bad Can I Be? immediately be followed by a short-very short-bridge that leads directly into Biggering.
Biggering is supirroior then that sudo pop rock shit
Tbh I think they should’ve kept both How bad can I be and Biggering.
I really like how as it progresses his face becomes obscured while his hands are highlighted and focused. That would have been a real beautiful direction in storytelling considered you only see his hands and arms in the book.
It would be a tribute to the time in the oncerler and book where you could only see his green gloves.
@@zer289 Yup. It would put Once-ler into the perspective of the consumer by that point, since after his company's initial hype started to dwindle a little, people no longer personally think anything of the Once-ler himself, they instead think of his corporation first
I really love how you have the onceler yell "I won't stop" to the lorax at 3:54, like the onceler is throwing all of the lorax's efforts to save him and the environment straight back in his face. it's really that last straw that makes it clear that he's too far gone to listen
And even in the original song it sounds like hes yelling at someone in anger and then goes back to singing this banger all happy
With every animatic I see for this song I'm reminded of how ROBBED we were- this is incredible, holy shit
They stole a masterpiece from us
This episode, if animated with the song, would've singlehandedly made a movie. It's not only has a references to an original book, but also expanding its plot to the some extent. In the original, Lorax tried to convince Onceler to at least adequately use the nature's resources for its industry, to keep both Industry and nature alive. And here, Lorax is fighting something way more deep - the reason of that inadequate behaviour in the first place - the Pride in Onceler himself. He's not trying to save the trees, but the Onceler.
The Greed took over Onceler, and Lorax warns him to stop feeding the internal beast, or it will grow bigger. But Onceler response is "You know what? I WANT it to grow bigger. And bigger. *AND BIGGER.* "
His face disappearing in oil and the gold coins dripping from the cigar gave me chills, imagine how powerful the movie would have been with this song and these scenes!
honestly it’s infuriating that they cut this song cause this would have been the perfect villain song for the once ler showing that it was not greed that turned him into this it was pride and anymore can easily become like this
@@liam6170 Exactly!! That was the whole point of the onceler originally. It’s easy for us to say “well I’m not that greedy, that would never happen to me.” But you know what’s so much easier to relate to than greed? Pride. Everyone has pride. It’s why we reflexively get defensive or hurt when someone points out our mistakes and flaws. It’s why we want others to love us, sometimes to the point of hiding who we truly are. It’s even why we hate ourselves, because our pride makes us feel like we need to be an unreachable ideal.
Ah, it’s late and I’m rambling, but I hope that I said something that makes sense lol
@@axuwu6939I feel like what they should have done with the Once ler is that they should have made it so at the beginning he was just a small business man trying to just get by without causing harm to the trees or the environment and they could even show the Once lers and Lorax becoming good friends over time but over time you see the Once lers pride slowly grow over time were a part of him try's to convince himself to start chopping the trees down at first to make it faster but he refuses at first but over time he keeps trying to convince himself to do it until he finally lets his pride get the better of him becoming what he became in the song biggering but that's just my opinion
Gold coins? Dude those are sparks
I really love how, at the end, the choir is saying "I won't stop biggering", as a reminder and reasurement to the Once-Ler that he needs to go on and keep destroyong. It could be interpreted that the choir is the Once-Ler's pride, telling him that it's what he's meant to do
I like how they keep the essence of the green gloves alive. A very important feature of the original story, and as Once ler loses his human essence and the only thing that is seen are his green gloves. The storyboard is amazing.
3:28-3:30 This is my 2nd favourite shot, the shot of Lorax being terrified as it reveals that to the Lorax, the people down there are cheering him on , making him Biggering more and more
"Oh look! It's nature boy!"
This is the second amazing storyboard of this song I've seen so far. Now I don't wanna sound TOO ambitious but I'm just saying that with the growing numbers of people becoming aware of how they bastardised this movie, the fact that a lot of them are artists and that this story has in inherent environmentalist cause attached to it that could motivate certain individuals or groups to give it avid support...
can it be done? Could a fan remake of the Lorax be done? *Should* it be done if it's possible to make it happen?
#ReleaseTheBiggeringCut
But seriously though, I hope so.
DUDEEEEEEE MY THOUGHTS EXACTLY!!! I HOPE IT HAPPENS ONE DAY
Amazing Idea!
The concept of the Lorax story isn't owned by any individual company! We can totally do it as an indie film!
If any indie film does give it a go, then they *have* to add in "Biggering." It's too good to leave as just a soundtrack and some storyboards. It stays true to Dr. Seuss' original vision, it humanises the Once-ler, makes us understand why he never stops or slows down, and shows how anyone can go from an innocent harmless soul to a corporate sociopath. Not to mention the Lorax himself has more weight and agency added to his character, as he's not just trying to save the environment, but he's also trying to save the Once-ler from himself.
My favorite part is probably the Lorax and his monologue. Normally in the movie he doesn't really pose a threat and is just kind of s goofy little man, but in this he sounds serious and I really like that side of him. Something about the Lorax just not holding back and calling the Once-ler a Meatface or and idiot is just good to me.
I love that there is nods to not only the 2012 adaptation which although the technical worst adaptation still has many great and familiar visuals that are definitely feel at home in a Dr. Seuss word. Along a couple of visual elements from the storyboard by Whysoanimated/Gloriadrewthis. So overall, A+.
every now and again i come back to this because of how fucking amazing it is, but one thing that really just gets me is at 4:06 the onceler's EYES BRO. the desperate eyes while he's explaining his story and the cut backs to ted and the lorax and how scared ted looks is just so captivating and awful, but in the best way because of how deeply unsettling it is. i absolutely love how wild and unhinged he looks
I love the fact that at the end, we get shown the seed. It shows that the Once-ler actually realize what he is doing and keeps the seed just in case.
I love how the ending shot just shows that the Once-ler has accepted his darkside.
And that he’s going crazy and losing his mind because of his greed,.
That's scary to see a man go crazy and lose his mind because of greed, that does give bad vibes
I like also like the nod to the original lorax with the oncelers green gloves the only thing being highlighted while his clothes are greyed and face obscured by darkness, like the OG onceler just being a pair of gloves
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I know you mean well and are smart but it’s pride, you see the song is basically saying (well only the Lorax part) Greed is in are natural, but pride isn’t, pride makes us keep going, going until we hit a barrier, that’s basically the message of the song.
But you don’t have to read this. You can just skip this!
Dude... this is infinitely better than "How bad can I be." Seriously, the false grandeur of the chorus and tone show that he thinks himself to be a magnate of humanity and progress and wealth. He knows that he's destroying everything, but what's the worth of someone else's everything compared to HIS everything? This song, especially toward the end, just hits the right buttons for "going forward, but in the wrong way." Waaay better than what we got.
The visuals here are straight out of a kids movie as well. Not overly dark to be morbid for the kids (like dying animals and people suffering from pollution illnesses), but dark enough to get the message and tone across. Like him at his podium like a dictator, lights upon him from below, and his crazy smiling face as he justifies his horrible actions as well as him dripping with oil, face concealed, looming like a great demon over the land he rendered bare. Everything is perfect. He's dark and grizzled, but not overly so. This achieves a balance of kid-friendly and extremely dark and evil.
Reminds me of those old-school 2D-animated films that Don Bluth and Gary Goldman made WAY back in the 1980s and 1990s. They were kid-friendly, G-Rated and had cutesy characters, sure, but had their dark and malicious moments.
Thumbelina, Pebble and the Penguin, All Dogs Go to Heaven, Ferngully, Secret of NIMH, Anastasia, An American Tail, etc.
The amazing thing about this song is you could remove the whole environmental/save the tree thing and it will still be great. The Lorax, rather than talking about the trees, he is talking about Greed and Pride and talks to the once-ler like a horrified friend seeing his friend turn into a monster.
This doesn’t just apply to corporate greed, but and many other aspects of life.
Yes. So much
Yeah. You can put this song in any situation relating to just profits, and it would still fit perfectly.
Like he's giving him an intervention before he loses his friend to addiction which is how Buggering is described in the song so it fits.
That wouldve been dope, while the movie would less focus on the environment which was the main point of the OG lorax, this really hits farther home with the focus on human greed and pride
It really changes the context because Biggering portrays the Lorax not just trying to save the forest, but also the Onceler from himself. Really makes the Lorax way better as a character by highlighting how tragic his futile efforts were.
Dr. Seuss Midnight Paintings reference
1:20 “Gosh! Do I Look as Old as That?”
1:56 “Cat Carnival in West Venice”
Dude you should get a kickstarter and make the Lorax the way it should have been made buy the rights to biggering from illumination and stick it in your movie as long as you don’t sell the movie as far as I’m aware you’re not violating copyright by remaking the movie, and I don’t think the kickstarter counts because that’s not you selling the movie that’s people paying you to make the movie. Plus making the movie free would be an excellent contrast to the story and a great way to ensure that many people can see it.
I know it’s a slim chance that you will but if you do I’m in to donate.
Wait…
…WHAT?!?
@Mister Animado YT nvm
@Mister Animado YT I mean I heard about someone called Loot bear that's trying to do a remake of the lorax with others
Your art style gave me life, I love the unhinged look that the Once-ler has, and he fully embraces a corrupted business with little things such as the cigar, the mockery of The Lorax by throwing his words back at him, and just how money-hungry his grins are. 10/10
I love how at the end, the onceler’s face slowly starts getting more obscured until you can’t see any of his facial figures. This was very well done, you’re very talented!
This song is so dark and cool that I still can't believe Illumination, one of the most childish and simplistic animation companies on the market, did this.
i mean, Set it Free along with Don't You Worry About A Thing exists as well and they're pretty great songs coming from that company.
Well illumination one of the most childish and simplistic animation companies on the market
Cut this song from the final movie
The message was “too real” so they cut it and pretended that it was “too dark”
Kinda shows how childish they are
@@myselfhello6128 fact is that Illumination cut out this song becuase of the fact that mirrored their company too much
Everyone’s seen the GODLE OG fanimatic on TH-cam, which is really true to the tone of the book, but what I love about yours is that you use designs and imagery from the movie. This was great!
Godly*
To be honest in my opinion I think this is better than that one especially this part 3:54 of the song really fits this scene
@@WakerOfTheSky I feel like this animatic has some things over the other, but I think I prefer how the other one had that bit of the Onceler trying to shake hands with the Lorax and getting rejected by him. I prefer how Oncelers care for the enviroment and the friends he made slowly diminished right up until that point where he powers up the town.
@@thatguysinthecornertooelec3700yeah about that animatic I’m confused on the storyboard I have a lot of questions but my most important question is where is the once-ler singing the song?
Also can you give me an full analysis about that Storyboard please
@@WakerOfTheSky For where the Onceler is singing in the final part...I dunno. I think him quietly and reluctantly thinking over what he's gonna do next while the music is blaring out makes for a great dramatic contrast, but still, I dunno. As for an analysis of the animatic as a whole, I couldn't really do it justice, but there are probably a dozen people who have in the comment section of that animatic, with a particularly great example being one that points out how the Lorax is symbolic of the Oncelers conscious (with him literally shown to be coming out of his chest, i.e. his heart).
Something I've noticed, this animation doesn't just reference the movie and the events that happened before the main story, but it also references the original 1976 animation, as the longer the video gets and the farther the once-ler goes into the corporate nightmare has created, his face eventually becomes a non-existent blur, in some frames you only see his arms and the iconic green gloves, which in a way references how he's barely human anymore and that those green gloves are the only things remaining of his once-great corporate empire... This song in this animatic truly tell the story of a once kind man with relatively Noble goals and it is dark descent into a hell of his own making..... Wow...
Nooo, you also had some sequences that were so SICK, DUDE! The last one where his face is all black and then you pass through the factory gave me so many chills. So good, so damn good
Aw Thanks! Glad you loved it!
That scene is chilling
Me too, that’s the best, the pull back through the machinery, like…just *thinking* about it again gives me chills. This whole thing is so excellent, I’ve watched this video three times today (i only heard this song for the first time yesterday).
"Biggering" already hits pretty hard but the imagery from this truly sends it over the top. Brilliant
every single frame of this had me literally glued, but 3:35 and the part where the onceler crawls out jesus fucking christ. that was so intense, from the choir and the lorax looking so terrified, the perspective and the smile on the onceler's face AND THE REFLECTION IN THE GLASSES. this is so beautifully intense and horrible, i literally cant get over everything about this WELL DONE!!!!
Probably one of my favorite differences about both songs is that in “How Bad Can I Be?” The Onceler says ”Who cares if some trees are dying?” Whereas in “Biggering” he says “Who cares if some THINGS are dying?” The difference being that the Onceler in the cut version is far more aware of his actions than he was in “How Bad Can I Be?” and is fully aware that it isn’t just trees that are dying from what he is doing.
I love the little details in this! For example in the beginning, where it shows his desk, there's a photo of a lady which I assumps it's young Grammy Norma. And in the scene where it's only showing The Once Ler's hand. Which is a reference to the 1972 special and the Original book. Love it so muchh:
"Who care if somethings are dying? I don't wanna hear your crying!"
The Lorax to a New Gen: I didn't just loose the trees.... I lost a good friend as well. He wasn't even the Once-Ler anymore. He was monster, beyond coming back. Money corrupts, and it corrupted him to the point I don't think even he regonized himself.
This makes it more shocking since we see how a friendship is destroyed little by little. In this song, the Lorax not only wanted to save the trees, he wanted to save the once-ler.
This is awesome, I really like how you blended some of the imagery from the movie with your own ideas, and I REALLY love the bit at 3:28 where you showed the green Onceler arms from the book
A few parallels I noticed between How Bad Can I Be and Biggering:
•In How Bad Can I Be, The Lorax is solely concerned with saving the truffula trees. In Biggering, not only is he trying to save the environment, he’s also trying to save the Onceler himself.
•In How Bad Can I Be, the whole thing still remains somewhat catchy, despite the last part getting louder and more abrasive, whereas in Biggering, it’s not your convential song, but rather like those you hear in a musical: ones that tell a story. Its a biopic. While How Bad Can I Be constantly pleads its innocence, Biggering never even tries to mask what its doing. It never once tries to reassure or convince. It instead showcases a man's eventual descent into corporate greed and something toeing the line of insanity.
•And the most interesting one, while in How Bad Can I Be it says “Who cares if a few trees are dying?,” Biggering instead uses the words, “Who cares if a few *things* are dying?” This is implying that instead of just the trees dying like we saw in the movie, like true industrial destruction, it ruins so much more than that. We’re talking animals and maybe even *people.*
Conclusion? Take it for what you will. I think both songs are good, but to me, Biggering really does just pack more of a punch, specifically in that it is not afraid to lean on the darker side, whereas How Bad Can I Be simply asks the question, but never really gets the person thinking about it. And to everyone saying they wish this was in The Lorax instead, I totally agree. However, because Biggering is darker than the entirety of the movie combined, I feel like the movie would either have to be severely or entirely changed to make such a piece fit. And really, I don’t see Illumination doing a super serious type movie anytime soon. It’s just not their style.
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I like the implication in this shot, that being that unlike in the final film, the mother doesn't actually want what's going on, but goes along with it for the sake of her son
“Someone should have told illumination teenagers actually like sociopathic characters”
They should have told you that to illumination
The once-ler fandom would’ve gone even harder on oncest‘s innocent sub and evil dom dynamic
I've been obsessed with this song and animatic for quite a bit now! It's SOOO good!!
THIS is what Illumination should've done for the movie. Not only keep the song in, but also have them reference the original faceless Once-ler from Seuss' book. As a fan of Seuss, i've always been ticked off by how they gave the Once-ler a face, unlike the book where all we ever saw of his body was his glowing yellow eyes and, most famously, his green-gloved arms. Showing him fully just took away the mystery of the character.
But what this artist came up with was a GENIUS idea: the Once-ler in the film could've become faceless as soon as he begins to lose his sanity. Imagine if that idea was incorporated into the feature.
All in all, this was great to watch (even though i've already watched a few times before writing this comment).
I honestly think you did Seuss' work justice better than most film studios have tried.
It's so sad, it's illumination..
@@cookecountryballs7196 Yeah, but then again, they weren't a big studio at the time, having made only two films at this point. Despicable Me, which was well received and Hop which was poorly received. So, one good film, one bad film, where do we go from here?
Plus, they're owned by Universal, a big corporation, which is, ironically, the very thing Seuss criticised in his book. I mean, how do you even make an anti-corporate movie when your studio is, in fact, owned by one? It'd be quite tricky to do so, i reckon.
But here's hoping one day, The Lorax gets a proper adaptation that isn't the 1972 TV special.
As someone who’s been obsessed with Biggering for years, as well as the concept of the Lorax from the Original TV movie and the early draft of the 2012 film. I don’t know how I missed this but this animatic is literally perfect! The timings with the song is impressive, but you also created your own unique narrative around the song to portray the Oncelers rise!
My favourite part is how you recreate the Onceler celebration from the 70s telemovie but with the addition of the Lorax as a public display. Literally putting him through the survival of the fittest! The Onceler is depicted as distant representation of capitalism to the citizens of Thneedville, using the classic hand iconography, but with the Lorax he gets all close and personal, his modern human face on full display. I also love how the Onceler commands the crowd like a Tsunami, a full demonstration of his ultimate capitalist control over the masses!
Holy shit. I love the call back to the original movie in this with the hands. I know my personal vision had Oncer's face be more and more hidden the more corrupted he got. No family or anything else. It was just his own huger driving his biggering and the more he fed it the more he was lost to it.
I kinda wished the Lorax was just his own imagination and getting a glimpse at the end of him with the mustache and eyebrows like the Lorax. Him being the one saying, "Unless..."
This really does everything I want from a Biggering animatic. Most of them start out with the Once-Ler already big, but the song really seems to imply it starts off with him nearer the beginning of his journey. Doing it this way lets us really see the moment he looks at what he's doing and *decides* that Biggering is worth whatever he has to kill. And like other folks have said, increasingly darkening his face and letting him be symbolized more by his gloved hands, grasping to claim everything, really really works. That reworked shot from the original movie of him standing over the forest is *particularly* effective, with his face almost dripping with darkness like some kind of eldritch horror. Damn good work.
The song starts off saying, "at first" I would do a flashback for the start
Loved that shot at 1:59-2:00 where Once-ler slips down a hill. Either to represent the metaphorical slippery slope or his slipping into corporate madness. Either way it is awesome!
I also love how he looks up to the swirling clouds to see the Lorax looking down at him. Almost as if he's being judged for his sins by God Himself. A man, corrupted beyond redemption in his lifetime, looking at the spirit whose home he destroyed.
I like the addition of the once ler smoking a cigar, creating more and more smoke to the point where it blocks his face at the end. We know exactly who made all that smoke appear
Honestly sucks that animation takes so long to make even in storyboard format like this because the visual flow and imagery you chose for the song are really good, like REALLY GOOD! Especially everything after 3:34 very creative, very fitting and emotionally very powerful, But it's very rough sometimes and it hurts the watch experince but damn was that well put together, I can definitely see you getting hired as a storyboard artist with just a bit more polish
4:05 - 4:10 This part reminds you that the Once-ler is telling the story to the kid. The Once-ler isn't holding back. He's channeling the same cruel, manic energy that drove him to destroy the valley, using it to tell the story to a disappointed and horrified boy. Also love how the boy and the Lorax are in the same spot, as the boy will be entrusted to carry on the Lorax's mission.
I love how you incorporated some of the How Bad Can I Be scene in this. Like this is probably what this song could’ve been had Illumination kept it in.
Wow, where do I even begin? I love the context clues that the Lorax exists in the Once-Ler's imagination (honestly I wish they took that angle with the film). I love how gradual you can see Onceler changing from his humble beginnings to faceless corporate emperor of Thneedville. There's even a reference to the first movie where you only see his green gloves peaking out of the doorway as he's gesturing to his new "utopia" (soon-to-be-dystopia) to the Lorax. I also really like that he goes from ignoring the Lorax to straight up bullying him as he shoves him around. Also, I did notice certain shots were repurposed from "How Bad Can I Be" into this with much more sinister ~flair~ and it's married with the song so well. 10/10 storyboard I'm floored.
-Use a ton of the budget on an amazing song
-Make the song accurately portray corporate greed
-Oops, that sounds like us
-Cancel the song
-Make a crappy song that portrays companies much lighter
-Refuse to elaborate
-Release the movie
Kinda sad that The Lorax, a book about the negative effects of capitalist greed over (this case) nature was transformed into a marketable product subtracting all the deep and dark meaning of the original source material just to sell it better and be able to sponsor it widely, by... a company. Awesome work done here buddy, you really made me have goosebumps with that smoke scene.
Meanwhile, at least we had Wall-E. Even Pixar made a better Lorax Movie that we got.
Dude. Making the cigar smoke the smog at the end was GENIUS.
Smoking is a drug an Addiction,
It is the poisoning of oneself
Just like greed.
Watching this was legitimately terrifying. When it ended up cutting to the scene of the Once-ler's auditorium with the people singing, just like the 1972 short, it honestly really hit me in a way I wasn't expecting. I don't think I've been so afraid and inspired and in awe all at once in a long time. You really brought this song to life. This is the version we deserved.
This song deserved to be in the movie
I'm obsessed with these two frames 2:59 and 3:01 they're so well done. This is by far my favorite biggering storyboard.
Excellent use of color and just great all around. The jaded expression you give the Onceler imparts a great sense of time and everything he's already willingly done to get where he is. Parts I especially liked: 01:45 with the Lorax appearing on the Oncler shoulder like a conscience even though it's not where he's physically standing, and 03:54 where he's saying, "I won't stop," directly to the Lorax , deliberately turning away from other options.
This is beautifully in form, presentation, and message.
Thank you! It really means a lot :D
3:53 Lorax wants to reach out to past Once-ler
I'm not crying...
This implies that the Lorax can still see his old self and does everything possible to save him and return to what he was before, but unfortunately it is too late.
I like how in “How Bad Can I Be?” The Lorax is trying to save the trees, but in “Biggering” he’s trying to save the Onceler.
This makes the Lorax a better character since he tries to save the one he considers his friend, which makes his farewell more impactful.
I like the idea that I saw in one discussion about the two songs saying How Bad Could I Be could have happened earlier in the movie and Biggering could have been the dark reprisal with The Onceler becoming more and more corrupt and less apologetic. All they would have to do is remove the end of How Bad Can I Be and I think it could work.
@@redstreak9430 That's what I've been saying since I heard this song for the first time: "How Bad Can I Be?" would be the first version of the song with the Onceler being more innocent and human, then slowly transforming into a greedy business man coming up with "Biggering" as the reprise. I could've been so great.
I love how the Onceler becomes more and more of a shadow as he loses himself to his greed and, more importantly, *pride.*
This song and this animatic in particular are up there with the presentation from some of the greatest animated musical numbers: Hellfire from Hunchback and The Plagues from Prince of Egypt. Striking visuals, operatic choir, and just absolutely hard hitting in every way
3:41 - 4:41 this has to be the best part.
If they had this in the movie, people would respect it more!
May I attempt to animate this?
Yes you may :D
@@natschema heres a rough animation of what I'm working on.
th-cam.com/video/7F3shelNh7E/w-d-xo.html
Have you made it yet?
@@senipain2785 Nah. It's just a rough
Are you still working on it?
Out of all storyboards of this song i've seen on TH-cam, this one is my favorite
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I love how you included the theory that Ted's grandmother was Onceler's lover.
i am extremely late to this but wow, i've watched loads of Biggering storyboards lately and this one takes the cake as the best one i've seen. the amount of research done for this and the references are just second to none, really good work
I know this is repeating a lot of other comments, but basically every shot in this is amazing. The symbolisms in it are amazing, and something I noticed on a repeat watch is the always darkening backgrounds showing the onceler’s transition into cooperate madness. And this is something to do more with the song itself, but I love how in the first half it sounds a lot more like a 70’s sort of psychedelic rock, almost kind of surf rock style song, then it turns into a sort of hard rock song similar to that of a band like muse.
I love every part of this.
4:06 The same look from the Lorax now with the boy looking at him through the window. The boy's reaction shows how the onceller chose to be a monster.
I actually really like this storyboard version. I like how you took inspiration from the original movie and book, and how after the wardrobe change, you started focusing more on just the arms, and showing more and more of the Once-ler's face hidden in shadow. It made it feel like throughout the song, the Once-ler was losing his identity to greed and corruption until nothing of who he once was was left. Added more weight to it I think.
Details i loved in this: (btw this is my 4th comment on this video lol i just keep coming back)
0:59, i like how he programmed his desk to lift up whenever he wants just reminding himself that he is in charge, he is so coaught up in his ego that he litteraly raises up his desk just to give himself the feeling of being superior.
2:12 now i can't really tell but i see this as if he is running from the trees being cut down (he is basically running away from his mistakes and trying his hardest to ignore them), that is just brilliant!
oh and that suit up scene in 2:24? PURE PERFECTION!!!
Now not many people have pointed it out, but at exactly 3:56 if you pause, you see the onceler's green arms are pulling the metal thing using the string above which could indicate that the onceler is pulling himself up, he has got so famous and popular that there is no human above him anymore, nobody can help him, only HE can help himself (am i going too deep? i might be...)
Now everyone pointed it out but the scene at 4:04, i liked it, but i really didn't get much chills from it as i got in like the suit up scene idk why people are praising it that much. Still very creative tho.
4:23, THIS now THIS is the image that perfectly sums up any corprate company, them starring at you like they are bigger than you, better than you, with th eir world ending machines surrounding them, the smoke covering their face to show how mysterious they are, the positions their hands are in basically showing that they know what they are doing, they know it is bad but they "like it that way".
And of couse, the last hope for the environement (the truffula seed) being ironicaly found in one of the pipes that keeps the workshop running, the same workshop that is contributing to the destruction of the environement showing that even if these companies are doing what they doing, deep inside they hope that some being, some minor coincidence can help them get rid of their greed.
If you read all of the text, thank you :)
I love this so much! Just seeing him getting more and more corrupted and wanting to bigger his company is actually really nice to see. I want this fully animated even if it’s not in the movie, it’d just like to see it. This kinda answers some mystery questions I had surrounding the Onceler, like did he build Theadville or did someone else and he just had the idea?
This animatic is FILLED with so much GENIUS ideas, oh my god. I've been sitting with my jaw on the floor the whole time! Brilliant work, i'm simply speechless holy hell
I just realised that a slightly altered line is soooo much darker
In the movie he sings "Who cares if a few trees are dying."
In Biggering it's "Who cares if some *things* are dying." It was more than just the trees dying, it was the animals perishing from his greed too, and possibly people from the fumes...dang
Just a fun comparison,
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I think one of the coolest things about this song is how the music is “biggering” as the song goes on. It’s a nice touch to the story this song tells
I Can't believe Illumination had the chance to make one of the best Dr. Seuss's book adaptation and ended up just fucking with everything.
UNLESS there’s a chance that it could become a Broadway horror comedy musical, much like Little Shop of Horrors or even be the next adult R-rated version of Suessical for the next generations.
This song would be included in the soundtrack and maybe have Ethan Slater as the Lorax along with many other well-known Broadway actors/actresses to play the characters we all know and love.
I’d watch the musical in a heartbeat.
I love these re-imagining of the other story bord video, the transition from the past leading to the present. His eyes becoming more violent and deranged, and lastly how his face becomes more and more covered. With addition with his gloves becoming the only colored part of him, really giving a nice "Foreshadowing to his future self" (And a great callback to the original).
I honestly love how this was put together, and would be hyped to hear if someone fully animated it :)