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Lamar Jackson Is Destroying Defenses With The 49ers 2012 Offensive Scheme
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 6 ธ.ค. 2019
- This week’s film breakdown analyzes the Baltimore Ravens Quarterback Lamar Jackson and the offense the Ravens are running. The offensive coordinator, Greg Roman, designed the 49ers 2012-2014 offense with Colin Kaepernick, and is now using the same exact scheme and plays with Lamar Jackson. Using the coaches all-22 game film, this episode analyzes the zone read, and how Jackson and the Ravens are using it in 2019.
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Something crazy I found while doing research for this episode: In 2012, Jim Harbaugh and offensive coordinator Greg Roman dominated the NFL with a zone read scheme, taking the 49ers to the superbowl where they would lose to John Harbaugh’s Ravens. Also in 2012, Redskins offensive coordinator Kyle Shanahan used a similar scheme to aid Robert Griffin III to becoming the rookie of the year. Now in 2019, Greg Roman is using the same exact scheme with the Ravens, where Jim Harbaugh’s brother John is still the head coach, RG3 is the backup quarterback and who just beat Kyle Shanahan’s 49ers.
Can you say.... “SCHEMECEPTION”
That's probably partly why the 49ers held them to their lowest offensive output & only 1 sustained drive. The other TD came on a fumble & short field. Even with that, LJ was able to feast on the moments when their defense lacked discipline to keep their edges. Made for a great game.
2 words. Greg Roman.
@@mylestate I think the weather had a lot to do with the 49ers defense having the outing they did versus the Ravens 49ers defense is extremely fast and they like to play fast attack the ball they are very very fast and inclement weather and conditions of rain can sometimes stop your speed that you have on defense because of bad footing and not being able to cut as quickly as you would on dry ground weather really played a big part in this game for the 49ers and still the Ravens only won by three points and Lamar Jackson only had 105 yards passing and if Jimmy Garoppolo didn't fumble then the final score at the end of regulation would have been 17 to 13 San Francisco Jimmy garoppolo's fumble put them at 20 points on the afternoon.
Imagine this 49rs defense with navorro and willis... But this video shows how ludicrous it is that kapp is out of a job.
You know what really makes this scheme work? A really good o line and defense just like Kap had with the Niners. What is funny is pretty much every scheme works with a good o line and defense.
D ...isnt as good as niners imo
The line is the true battle
Ryan Pennington it doesn’t have to be as good as the niners to be a good D
Weird how this offensive line was one of the worst this year...
@@ryanpennington817 Ravens give up 2 less points a game and less rushing yards by 20 yards a game
It's like the football equivalent of the pick and roll
T S perfect 👌🏾
But the huge difference is that Lamar Jackson is very hard to contain. That speed can't be coached, those jukes and spin moves are from another planet.
That Ninja CJay right kap was straight line not only is Lamar straight line he got Barry Sanders agilit
@@HeCreative I'd say the same for Rg3 before his knee Injury, a great player but mainly just straightline speed. Lamar's extraordinary wiggle adds something the other 2 couldn't, where even if you have a defender where he is supposed to be, he can easily miss Lamar and give up the big play. Hopefully that will allow Lamar to last many more years then the other 2
Proper eye discipline by linebackers can stop Lamar. 49ers inexperienced linebackers bit on run fakes and gave up edge contain way too often against the Ravens. They will learn and correct that.
Loanword Eggcorn pats lbs wasn’t able to stop him
@Joyce Williams every inter city kid isn't juking out 200+ pounds trained professionals every week though
I feel bad for the Bengals, Browns and Steelers who have to play Lamar Jackson twice a year. That offense is a nightmare to deal with.
IF the Bengals draft Joe Burrow, there will be 3 heisman trophy winners in the AFC South duking it out for the crown each year.
He'll be figured out next season
Anthony p said that last year. The only reason he was stopped in the playoffs is because Marty Morningwig was the OC and didn’t adjust after halftime. When they let improvise and pass in the 4th it almost became a nail biter.
elopez1882 ikr those dbs and line backers probably don’t even have ankles anymore
@elopez1882 but the Browns are 1-0 vs the Ravens in 2019 though ;).
Im not sure this is the offense will be like this next year. I truly believe Lamar will become a deadly enough passer to not use his legs as much after this season. Lamar reads the field very well regardless PLUS Lamar is 22, led his team to the playoffs at 21
one bad hit the season is over, such a high risk high reward game plan. no one is really out there to be the back up besides *cough cough* kaep XD
He is a good pocket passer, that still doesn’t take into consideration that a large part of the Ravens game plan is the read option which will put him in harms way a lot. I just hope he continues to avoid taking big hits.
Wilson had to adapt to be a pocket passer Lamar will have to as well
If he makes another leap in his passing as big as he did this year. He will be truly unstoppable.
Hao Ye Lamar takes more hit the pocket then actual runs lol watch his pocket awareness on his 2nd TD pass
“Gives him the Ty Lus treatment, and absolutely obliterates his ankles”😂 bruh that was beautifully said
Great breakdowns once again!! I absolutely loved “Lamar Jackson sends nick vigil into the sunken place “ 😂😂😂😂😂
He just asked his brother for the 2012 playbook
Jose51oh no this offense has some of the shit he ran in college due to Bobby petrino
When I hear people say "in the off season teams will have tape on the ravens and their offense will be over, or Lamar is a one hit wonder." Like every teams defense will evolve and the Ravens O will just stay the same with no improvements, adjustments or updated scheme.
Perhaps. But the delta won't be great on the offensive side. History has shown us that time and time again.
Dereginald .Batiste l agree. People just wanna stop Lamar so they could hate on him.
Dereginald. Batistae. 12 games in and this dude leads the nfl in TDpasss now my question is why ain't a pure pocket qb leading the nfl in TD passes?
@@ghostzion7756 leading in TD passes doesn't mean you're a better pure passer QB, just means you're getting better production from the QB position. There's a difference obviously.
RG3's mobility was put to such great use in 2012 that he produced like a top 5 QB. Once his mobility couldn't be used anymore he's essentially been reduced to not a lot.
Not saying Lamar will be reduced as such, but clearly he's not leading in TD passes because of his awesomeness at reading defenses or throwing the ball.
We've been down this road before.
All I'm saying you got guys that been in the nfl a min and never won anything that is making over 25million a yr. But for some reason every one want to see Lamar fail tho.
the biggest difference is back then it was strictly a run option now they have thrown in RPOs to the point it's virtually unstoppable now
The biggest difference is QB power and zone runs added with Lamar. Roman had some RPO with Kap, though it was mostly Read Option.
@@LoanwordEggcorn yea it wasn't a big thing back then
@@LoanwordEggcorn ppl keep saying this greg roman old offense its really not its actually bobby petrino offense thats why the RPOs are more prevalent
Lol. Theres no way to stop it. Its like having to running backs with to different footballs at the same time. Trust me theres no way to stop it with Lamar. All you can do is guess and hope that works.
@@wjacin when random crap-teams like the Browns can kick the shit out of a team like the Ravens, trust me...it can be stopped...and no, that's not a dig at the Ravens. Every team with a similar record in the playoffs has one inexplicable loss. Point being, there's no such thing as "unstoppable" in this case.
Chris Long on his podcast did a really long, in depth, crazy man connect the dots to how Greg Roman ended up on the Ravens and it all went back to one teammate of his on the Rams. It was actually really interesting and amusing when he broke it all down.
do you know what episode it was?
Greg Roman was on the staff before in 2006 with John Harbaugh before he was with San Fran.
@@jaymckay88 I think it was episode 10 part 2 with his brother Kyle
The difference here is Lamar has a much quicker release, an accurate arm, and the ability to make more than 1 read. Kaep had a long release, was in accurate, and had to have his read given to him before the play.
Agreed, much better passer than Kaepernick was. Also he takes angles that Kaepernick didn't, Kaep was fast but wasn't going to put his shoulder down and go through a defender on every single run, Lamar is definitely a running back that also knows how to throw the ball really well. Unfortunately the NFL has trained players, with yellow flags, to treat QBs as delicate flowers so no one has put the hit on him consistently so there's going to be a natural level of hesitation which is really an unseen weapon for the Ravens, hell after the SF game Harbaugh was screaming at defenders for hitting him hard near the sidelines calling it a cheap shot etc.
Lamar is not that amazing of a passer, but he is a superior athlete to Kap, way quicker and likely faster for his top speed. Kap had to get a running start before he would get to max speed, while Lamar is there immediately. Lamar Jackson is the greatest athlete at the quarterback position probably ever?
Still, Kapp could be a really good weapon on a team with a good QB.
@@jamesthomas1649 Perhaps...but Lamar is basically a clone, so tied?
People always sleep on Lamar's ability to read defenses. Ravens players LAST YEAR were already saying that Lamar read defenses better than Joe Flacco who was a 10 year veteran and this was before Lamar became a starter. Lamar's problem was accuracy and as you can see he's gotten much much better at that.
This is some high quality analysis
absolutely obliterates his ankles 😂😂
This was a beautiful breakdown. I could watch this all day. Keep it up
Zone Read Offense: You haven't even seen me in my Final form yet 😈
Calvin Parker defense: show me your full power !
I like how they added the inner harbor in baltimore in the backround of thr thumnail
I like how you added they like I'm not reading these. Shout out to Baltimore
I don't think the system failed with Kaepernick and Roman was offensive coordinator and Jim Harbaugh was head coach
They just plain flat out stopped using it from the pistol formation primarily
No, they flat out gave away a Alex Smith's job when they finally had the right personnel and he was killing people to try to install this exact offense without the right guys to pull it off.
@@brianharper6208 didn't give away Alex Smith job but he never learned to begin with spite of his draft status
Kaepernick earned it
Harbaughkept trying to use a system that wasn't best suited for him
One of the reasons he keeps getting destroyed by Ohio State
@@kkroyu he earned it? By having one good game against one of the worst teams in the NFL while Smith was held out for concussion protocol? How the hell is that earning it? Aldon Smith had 5.5 sacks by himself in that game you could have beaten the bears that night. Earned it... Whatever we were destroying everybody Alex was playing lights out you should go back and review
@@kkroyu Harbaugh wasn't the instigator, Greg Roman was trying to figure out exactly the stuff he's having success with in Baltimore now with all the wrong personnel and a QB nowhere near as good as a Lamar Jackson.
@@brianharper6208 do do you have any idea the level of scrutiny Alex Smith was under before that season?
Let's just say he wasn't exactly setting the world on fire
Kaepernick didn't go into using the pistol formation primarily until the Green Bay game.
The Atlanta game it was used sparingly
And of course in the Super Bowl against the Baltimore Ravens they only use it exclusively until they were down a ton of points.
Then that very next year the opening game against Green Bay they use it exclusively again and Kaepernick passed for over 400 yards and three touchdowns and they didn't touch it pretty much again until the playoffs
Kap's 2012 Divisional round game against the Packers. Is arguably, the most dominant QB performance, in NFL history. 250+ yards passing, and an NFL record, 180 yards rushing, and 4 total tds (2 passing 2 rushing). Green Bay had no answer for this brotha, on that day. And then the next week against Atlanta -- who did a great job taking away the QB run -- threw all over them. And led a great comeback victory , on the road in the Georgia Come. That got them to the Super Bowl. That's something jokers can never take away from Kap.
The Falcons were all over Colin and he let Frank Gore take over that game more than Colin's passing. It helps that Bowman and the defense shut out the Falcons in the second half. Zero points allowed after giving up 17 in the first half.
@@PaulGaither 16-21 for 223 yards 1 td and no turnovers is pretty efficient, I'd say. And yes, brotha Frank Gore -- as well as LaMichael James -- was abled to eat that day, why?... Because the fear of god brotha Kap was putting in NFL defenses, if you allowed him to keep that ball off the edge on those zone reads. So here's a play that shows you how impactful brotha Kap was, during that 2012 Super Bowl run. I believe the play happened in the second half, of that said NFC championship game. So they're (49ers) lined up in the pistol, the ball is hiked. Kap drops back to do a play action, off their zone read concept. And what do you know... Frank went to the left of Colin, instead of being to the right (where the play action mesh read occurs). So basically, Kap ends up doing a fake, to an invisible man (where Frank was supposed to be). And you know how the edge rusher for the Falcons responds? He actually paused, and honored the fake, although their was no man there for Kap to fake to. Now that's impact. Kap psychologically, had defenses and defenders, not being able to play reactionary instinctual football. It was ingrained in their minds, that you hold the edge, on those zone reads, to keep gap integrity, on brotha Kap if he keeps it. Put RESPEK on the brotha's name, and game.
@@araynova - And after all of that, Colin also:
1. Forced 3 passes in a row to Crabtree. On one down, the #2 read of the play was wide open to the TE on a curl in the end zone who sat in the zone. On 4th down with a time out in his pocket, the leader of the offense saw a cover zero. In the post game conference, he said that did NOT have a check against that and he chose to just throw a lob up to Crabtree. Good QBs know the situation and call the time out and they scheme up something else.
2. With first and 10 from the 18, 40+ seconds and two time outs, he just threw a lob to Crabtree who had Sherman all over him in 2013 (Jan 2014)
3. He continued to get exposed. Teams learned their code words and tendencies. The Rams knew what plays were coming and on one famous play, didn't even cover the WRs. With both WRs waving for the ball and his attention, Colin just handed it off to the HB for no gain or 1 yard when he had a TD to either side.
I was a fan on the 2012 ride. I was worried but faithful in 2013. I saw he made NO PROGRESS and was regressing by 2014 and became a joke.
Forget portests and other distractions; the truth is that he is trash at the NFL level.
The thing with read-option is either way the offense gains yards
I thought once I saw Mike Vick, that he would be the closest thing I'd ever see, to Michael Jordan on the football field. 10 years later, I'd be gifted to seeing *The Gift,* that is Lamar Jackson. The brotha literally impacts every element of the game, and transcends, the X's and O's. To best put it. This brotha has god gifted Instinctual Awareness. The way he feels pressure, contact, and defenders, is like something I've never seen before. He's literally the real life adaptation, of Goku's Ultra Instinct ability. Like I've stated since watching the October 1st 2016 matchup against Clemson.. this brotha, is the best football player in the world. And the NFL was gonna have a real problem, once he entered the league. And not only did he enter the league -- and has since tore it up to shreds -- he's actually doing it for my team, and OUR city. And he's doing it in a way, that's untraditional, and unrelatable, to most. From his box braids, to the South Floridian accent, to his very dark pigmented skin, and plays the QB position how brothas traditionally play it, in the hood.. which is straight Street Ball style. Couldn't be more proud as a fan of Lamar's, and couldn't be prouder, of having this brother being the face of our franchise, and city. Great analysis by the way.
I've been hearing "Cheat Code" but I think "The Gift" is my new favorite name for Lamar.
@@christopherbaby3842 yes brother Chris. All I keep hearing Lamar truthers ask.. "Is it sustainable?". "What happens when he gets injured?". "What about 10 years from now, will he still be effective?". And the all so common "What happens when the league, 'figures him out'?". Lol. That's my personal favorite one by the way. Like they don't understand that it's a two way street, and Lamar can continue to evolve as well, just like the defense can. I don't know what the future holds, and we can use the past as a teacher to learn from. I live in the right now. Which is The Present. Which is why Lamar is, *The Gift.*
If the 49ers rookie Linebackers had better eye discipline and didn't bite on run fakes so often, they would have won the game. This is a common rookie mistake and they will learn from it, and correct their errors.
This takes nothing away from Lamar, who is clearly very talented.
Lamar is more like Iverson.
@@coreyg3670 I can dig it. Complete game changer. Both on the field, and culturally as well. AI was nasty, at Bethel High School.
Greg Roman and Jim Harbaugh lost that SuperBowl with awful play calling at the end.
They needed just some yards to score the game winning TD. They had Randy Moss, Delanie Walker and Vernon Davis as redzone target, Frank Gore was on fire and Kaepernick could run. What did they call? consecutive throws to Crabtree on the same corner
The ravens made 49ers abandon the zone read/read option in the super bowl. Cause kap was getting touched/hit on everyplay: they couldnt afford to get him hurt in the Super Bowl. That’s why the play calling changed a lot.
@@3Vizo - Wrong. They were avpiding it most of the game and going back to the well is how they got back in the game. They were unstoppable innthe 4th quartet and with 2nd and goal from the 5... they called 3 passes to Crabtree in a row.
Hell, on 2nd and goal from the 5 they had a read option to the left, snapped the ball and Colin had the edge to win the game as the refs came running in blowing the whistle because Harbaugh had called a time out to avoid a delay of game.
Paul Gaither the blackout got them back into the game. They barely used the read option on their comeback they change their playcalling. Telling me I’m wrong ahahahah
@@3Vizo Blackout has nothing to do with that. They justade an adjustment
@@3Vizo - Watch the game again idiot. Here is the link. The come back stars at the 6min mark. They used it almost exclusively, combined with the read option play action.
th-cam.com/video/BKNj4XHGDv0/w-d-xo.html
A major difference is the Heisman package with Lamar, RG III, and Ingram. That is a lot of plays in itself!
It's like the Exodia of football formations
..and now their cleaning out their lockers😂😂..
Ironically, what killed the zone read in 2013-ish was the Ravens. They asked for clarification, could you unload on a QB who was executing a fake run. The NFL's answer was emphatic, hell yes. The Ravens pummeled Kaepernick in the Superbowl. I'm waiting for teams to revisit this strategy when playing the Ravens, bringing things full circle.
There will one day be a Lamar Jackson movie. Blee Dat.
They definitely could win the Superbowl. This year is going to be amazing !
I'm kind of hoping they don't win since it's a younger team. Might get complacent next year vs them failing and then getting hungrier yue following years
@Pelom Pelon how not? The ravens didn't win......
@Pelom Pelon no one was worried about the titans I just said I was hoping the Ravens didn't win
After about 2-3 seasons, the Greg Roman offensive scheme hits a clear ceiling.
If the Ravens aren’t careful, they might have their version of the 2014 49ers season.
It’s been widely discussed that it’s NOT the “same exact scheme”. It’s SOME of that scheme with a LOT of other schemes as well
The key to stopping the zone read, is just assume the QB has the ball and just always hit him, every play, until they don't think it's a good idea to let their QB get turned into mashed potatoes.
Risks to that as well. If the DE targets QB every play, RB will most likely get 5-10 yds every play. Pick your poison.
THIS KID MADE ME WATCH NFL FOOTBALL AGAIN !
Seems that we're assuming that Lamar will remain the same...I don't think this will be the case...His passing will be even better than it was this year...Then what? He will evolve this off season just like he did last off season....Its only going to get worse....If u think he's hard to defend now its going to be even more nightmarish next season....His passing craft will only get better....He's not even close to his final form....
You make him sround like a Grey alien.how do catch captain American .
Until he gets hit one too many times and pulls his hammy or breaks an arm. Or even worse, get CTE. He will not last as long as Brady.
@@ChefofWar33 The supposed extra risk for a running QB is overstated at best.
www.footballoutsiders.com/extra-points/2019/injury-proneness-running-qbs-overstated
I mean, he already has the 11th best passer rating ever. So I don't think he can get MUCH better than this.
Yippie37 he’s 22, this is his baseline
Love the "Flows" instrumental beat play ing
I love that he is my qb. Go ravens
This is not the Zone Read, this is the classic Veer Option. However nice breakdown
Show as much film as possible... You still ain't gonna stop him... He's just SPECial...🤨... Just remember he's just 22...
@Richard HART you must be a pats fan...
Great videos Alex thank you very much!! How a defense can stop this Ravens?
Another defender in the box is necessary to take on that "F Blocker" the TIght End/Full Back coming across the formation. By bringing another defender into the box, that makes the defense more susceptible to the pass, and will make Lamar effective. I think he'll slow down a bit next year, but will still be an incredible player. Hope he stays healthy!
I called it the 3 card Monty offense when Kap was doing it. Follow the football if you can.
This is why Colin has been pushing to get back in. The NFL. He see’s what Jackson is doing and says I do that too and I did it before him. Jackson is just doing what Cap would have done if he was still in the NFL.
Jonas Beach yea, right he had 5 years, an he still never reach this level
I believe the 49ers have the group to deal with it but they lack discipline against this which is vital in order to stop this.
@Joyce Williams I'm not talking about the juke that's just skills can't stop that, what I'm talking about is the pistol offense.
So the moral of the story is....
"Nobody Cares. Work Harder."
Yep! And they said the college scheme wouldn’t work in the NFL. Bring back Kap!
As a longtime 49ers fan, I just want to say... Greg Roman's scheme never crumbled. The 49ers collapse was mostly due to lack of personnel on the field, and drama in the front office. Any type of run-heavy office has to be paired with an above-average office to win games. We went from having one of the most talented rosters, especially on defense, to just being gutted on both sides of the ball. Three of the best interior linebackers in the league, all gone due to injury and early unexpected retirement. Two of the best defensive linemen in the league, gone. 1st rounder RT, unexpected retirement. It was just all bad. And since we had to pay Colin, it's not like you just get to throw money at the situation. You've gotta draft your way out of it over the course of years. Gladly, we did. Replacing all that missing talent on defense by spending 4 1st round picks on defensive linemen.
fantastic content
I’ve been trying to tell my non 49er friends that the ravens are pretty much doing what we did to go to Super Bowl but no body listens
@Richard HART and you were right so far
That was great!
Is there a copy of Romans 49ers playbook anywhere online?
I post some of the plays on my Twitter
Includes one from Roman, Shanahan, and Sean Payton.
That could be Jim on the sideline using the same scheme and no one would no because they look so similar
Great film breakdown. Thee absolute best I’ve seen
Thanks Justin, appreciate it
you have to reverse the scrape exchange and have the DE on Lamar every time with the LBs vs the RB because you cant trust anyone to tackle Lamar in the open field. A DE could shut down the qbs option to run at the mesh point.
It’s sad to say and I hope it never happens, but once his acl or mcl tear he will never b the same
I totally agree Jimmy, it's a difficult thing to say, and I pray he has perfect health throughout his career, but based on percentages and the punishment he takes, it looks like something bad could happen.
We all seen wut RG3 was like before and after his injury, I hope Lamar never has to go thru that and stays healthy and becomes a pocket passer to prolong his career
JSway 24 you do know acl tear dsnt need to happen from a hit you can tear it from cutting and juking, ppl tear it from just walking.... and he is nothing new as a running qb, Vick and Cunningham was doing what he is doing a long time ago
JSway 24 so me saying I hope it never happens is me wishing injury on him🤔 ok buddy when you learn how to read and understand we can talk but till then. Hope you have a blessed day
JSway 24 😂😂😂😂 dumb ass I’m not white so why would I be mad at his race, I never sed he wasn’t good learn how to not reach for racism as a excuse to help a argument that you are have ur self, the fact that you went to race when race was never mentions shows how young minded you are 😂😂😂😂
same scheme but has a better feel for throwing between the numbers. when kaep ran it vernon davis career went south lol
BlakDynamite615 bruh facts!!
They are even using the “Who’s got it better than us!? Nooooobody” slogan that Jim used
Funny how this is in my recommendations. I was talking about this 2 weeks ago with a few friends. But Lamar Jackson in my opinion is better than Krapanick.
Hands down
Only time will tell, Kap had to play in the NFC west not some crappy teams like the Bengals and Browna
@@MacMyKitty lamar played the NFC west this year
@@haroldpierce1987 So? Still played to crappy teams, and lost to the Browns
@@MacMyKitty browns have talent just no chemistry and Baker Mayfield regressed. It's still the NFL brodie. As with all pro sports anybody can be beat.
So what your saying is it’s going full circle so the ravens are gonna lose to the Niners in the superbowl
lights out
Hao Ye I see what ya did there
@@Tytanzzz tbh there is a really good chance raven vs 9ers. Pats usually doesn't really well in playoff when they have an amazing season
FINALLY someone understands why I made this video
bro espn needs to sign you
A lot of Y-lead option Run/Passes to go with, And a little bit of flex-bone. It's crazy because many of Qbs like Lamar could have flourished in the NFL if the teams actually played to their strengths. I'm just glad John Harbaugh had the balls to want to branch out and do something different from the ordinary...Because why not?. Now every one wants a Lamar type of player when they passed them up for years.
Seems like an opportune time to get good ol' 5-2 back in the rotation - maybe run it out of modified wide 9
We miss kap. Bring him back
Six Twozero no 💀
Adrian Ibarra shut up
tito thomas I wasn’t talking to you. Mind your own business buddy
Psn: HeartBreakBed wdym, Jimmy G fits Kyle Shanahan’s offense better than Kap, there’s no point in bringing Kap back
Imagine the Ravens had McCaffery or Barkley and Kittle or Kelce
Ezekiel Elliot would fit better in this offense since he's more of a pure runner and not a receiver back
As a 49er fan, late last season and early this season I immediately recognized that Roman had instituted the same offense he made with Kap years ago. It's basically identical with only some minor tweaks and changes to give the illusion that it's different, but it's not. I would compare it to making 2 identical cakes, but one cake gets pink frosting, and the other cake has white frosting. But at the end of the day they're still the same cakes, just a different outside "look". Kap and this same offense eventually got figured out and the style went out of vogue, it'll happen again with the Ravens within the next season or two. One thing is for certain, Greg Roman is truly the epitome of the phrase 'one trick pony".
Must respect to Kap ✊🏾
thanks for uploading this video.
RG3, Kaepernick = Morpheus
Lamar Jackson = Neo
I believe the key to deciphering the enigma that is this ravens offense is identifying the position of the tight end, then youll be able to know if its a motion slap one way, or if its a same side slap. Then you can train the linebackers and safeties to not try to hit lamar as hard, but force him out of bounds for minimal to no gains. And even if he chooses not to go out of bounds, by then the rest of the defense will be able to swarm Lamar.
It's a good idea, but sometimes they break tendencies and run away from the tight end
It's funny because every Niner fan remembers how we lost that SB and we're all dumbfounded as to why we didn't use the same methods used by the Ravens to stop Kaep to shut down Lamar.
Kaep Isn't Lamar. That's the reason they were able to stop him then and why the niners WEREN'T able to stop Lamar this year. Lamar is just an all out baller, and the way to contain him is to draft defensive players who can ball on his level. Scheme cannot stop talent. ONLY TALENT CAN BEAT TALENT.
@@mad_j1749 Have you ever coached?
@@mad_j1749 lol stop gobbling his nuts he'll be figured out next season or injured defenses always find ways that's why defense wins championships
Bad eye discipline by rookie 49ers linebackers is what gave up edge contain to Lamar. If the Linebackers stay in their assignments, they would have stopped more of Lamar's runs to the edges. This is a very common rookie mistake, and they will correct it. Play correctly in the scheme, and 49ers win.
49ers team is very young and still learning how to play. It will be good for a long time, but is still learning and improving. Same with the Ravens. Could be a rivalry for many years.
The difference is that defense had Ray Lewis and Ed Reed.
We heard the same off season argument last year. The ravens will not (probably) maintain historic numbers year after year, but ultimately scheme isn't everything. I think the biggest cause for teams falling off ends up being that they lose key personnel. Their coordinators will end up getting head coach jobs elsewhere. Their star players will age, sign with other teams, and get hurt. The biggest reason for the ravens current success really is that their past 2-3 years of drafts & free agency has brought in an unusually high quality of players. They have 12 pro bowlers, at least half of which weren't even with the team 2 years ago and the other half weren't considered for pro bowls in years past likely due to the fact that the success of the team is making them get more attention.
I never forgot Roman and Tyrod Taylor were good for about 28pts per game.
MJ and the triangle offense succeeded as well as it did because they had MJ as the center piece of it in Chicago. Same thing holds true for Roman and his triple option offense. It works as well as it does because LJ is the center piece. Concepts are only as good as the athlete that executes them. Lamar is so dang talented as a football player, that he makes any concept that is good look great.
ravens have mastered throwing in the pocket and running the ball.
Lamar takes some of the fewest hits of all QBs, so let’s drop the whole “is it sustainable” talk.
Lamar Jackson gets hit more than any quarterback in the league. Facts
Here are some facts and data to back it up.
1. Sacks. Lamar is amongst the lowest in sacks (22) in 13 games. And he's #1 among full time QBs with at least 9 starts in yards lost from sacks, with only 106.
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Only Carr, Goff, and Prescott are lower among QBs who have played 13 games. And a good chunk of Lamar's "sacks" ended with him scrambling out of bounds for a loss.
2. Big hits in the pocket. Being in the pocket when it collapses is dangerous. And the more pass attempts you do, the more prone you are to big hits. Many QBs take big shots just as the camera pans as he throws the ball. Fewer pass attempts and sitting out 4th quarters in blowouts help to keep Lamar from taking big hits.
3. Scrambling. Unlike other runners like Cam Newton who try to run over defenders, Lamar craftily avoids big hits. Most of Lamar's designed runs are sweeps where he is tackled safely by the sidelines. When Lamar is shifty and goes inside, he avoids the big hit, so when he is tackled, he is usually tackled from BEHIND, and not in FRONT taking on all that contact. By being used to running, he knows when to get down and out of bounds. Many pocket passers when they run, they get down late, because they aren't used to it. So they take huge hits.
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Lamar wouldn't have taken this hit. He would have found a way to get out of bounds or get his head down earlier. If you notice, Lamar doesn't slide feet first. If the hit is coming, he simply falls down head first without sliding avoiding the big hit.
Shifty runners stay healthy longer. Look at the careers of Vick, Young, Wilson, Tarkenton, Cunningham, etc. Bruisers like Cam are prone to getting hurt.
In NO WAY am I saying Lamar doesn't get hit at all. I am saying he takes the fewest BIG direct hits of any other QB in the league. It's hard to find video of him taking big shots.
Here is a video showing how he avoids the big hit. Any other QB would get hurt.
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Guess I'll wait for the inevitable RG3 mention because no one else can name another running quarterback whose career ended early from running the ball...
American boi Sure. It’s just observation from others.
We will have a national TV game on Thursday Night. We can now all watch the game and count the number of direct hits each QB takes...
@@citrustaco 9:37 in this video he takes a helmet to helmet hit that most QBs don't take. I agree he's good at avoiding things most of the time, but a runner will always take more overall hits than a pocket passer
It's crazy because if you look at all of highlights from highschool up to now, he's been playing QB like this all his life lol.... those instincts isn't something you learn he been had it #ravensflock💪💪
Love watching rocket man
System crumbled because we didn’t have good te play we lost walker and Davis became ineffective lost the entire line up from offense to defense
I agree but the Ravens have multiple good young TE's so that shouldn't be an issue going forward with them
BTW Lamar has 6 games of 3 passing TDs this season
Lol. The scrape is no good if the linebacker can't catch the QB.
"Absolutely O bliterated his ankles!"
the tone is so similar to fivepointvids
I was thinking the same thing but Jackson is a way better passer than KP.
I feel like Jim harbaugh told his brother our old playbook
Great video
You don't believe San Francisco's defense handled that offense well? Sure, they may have given up a bunch of rushing yards, however they only gave up two TDs all day.. And at the end of the day, what matters MORE than TD's? They held Baltimore scoreless through the entire second half, up until that FG they hit in the closing seconds to win..
So while SF certainly done a better job in defending against this offense, it wasn't nearly as bad as it could've been.. They gave their offense a chance to win that game, and you can't really ask a whole lot more from your defense than that.. It's not their fault that Shanny blew it with that ridiculous play-call on 4th and 1..
49ers did a good job at stopping the Ravens. Held them to half of their normal score.
However 49ers inexperienced Linebackers had bad eye discipline on too many plays and gave up edge contain, allowing Lamar to run to the outside too often. He ran much less than usual, but still, the Linebackers made to many mistakes. This is a very common rookie Linebacker mistake. They will learn from it and correct it.
Both teams are good. Both are young and improving, especially the 49ers. Lots of very young, talented players gaining experience and improving every week.
The 49ers played Lamar tough, that's fersure, but he rushed for over 100 yards, juked a couple guys out of their shoes, and had some nice throws in TERRIBLE conditions. I wouldn't say he "destroyed" the 49ers, but he played great, and is league MVP.
@@AlexRollinsNFL - Well I would definitely agree that he's an MVP candidate for sure, and there's no arguing against your point that he put up good numbers on the ground. I also agree that he made the Niners defenders look silly a couple times throughout that game, but SF definitely did a better job slowing that offense down than any other defense has since Baltimore has been on this streak of dominance..
You're never going to completely stop an athlete like Lamar Jackson.. He's gonna get his stats one way or the other. And even though they gave up over a hundred yards rushing to him, I still believe they did a pretty good job of containing that offense as a whole.. Not to mention they gave their own offense the opportunity to go win that game in the end, and they blew it.. And that's what this loss boils down to - missed opportunities on offense. Baltimore came into that game averaging something like 36 points per game, and that Niner D held them scoreless through the entire second half, right up until they hit that game winning field goal.. Unfortunately, Jimmy G and the offense couldn't do anything to capitalize on that..
And the saying too lol in the locker room .. “Who’s got it better than us”
Love these videos
Lamarvelous 💜
Love his skills and he is humble. GO RAVENS!
So basically you are saying that this year's ravens are just a god send. The Ravens had an absolute steal during the draft 2 years ago but no one realized until now 🤯. Not to mention an offensive coordinator and team that was literally meant to work with Lamar in the first place. Hopefully this team will be one to remember
Brett Kollman and you would be a great collaboration whenever the season has ended so you guys can recap this entire Regular season.
Why do I get the feeling Jackson wins mvp QB over Wilson when Wilson should’ve won mvp THIS TIME?
as a Die Hard Niner fan this thumbnail BLowsMyMIndDdD
Love to see that o run that on old school 3-4 instead of these overload 4-3 that sets up as a 5-2.
I saw a lot of guys covering the wrong gap. They look unsure what gap they where to be covering.
very perceptive Sarah, the Steelers 3-4 was the only defense to give Lamar trouble this year. Was easier to fill and fold and scrape exchange within that scheme
Obviously, Roman has made tweaks to his offense at each of his stops, but you're absolutely right that the overall scheme is the same. The Niners in 2012 were built on defense, and didn't typically need much from their offense. But their offensive stats that year somewhat mirror this Ravens team's: 2500 rushing yards, split mostly among 3 players (Gore, Kendall Hunter, Kaepernick), and a passing offense (albeit one with an 1100 yard receiver in Crabtree and also featuring a 35 year old Randy Moss) with a large chunk of yardage and TDs from its TEs.
But I'll tell you what -- check out the 2015 Buffalo Bills season. They didn't have nearly the same caliber of players as either of these other two teams, but Greg Roman was their OC that year. Tyrod Taylor threw for 3000 yards, 20 TDs, and 6 INTs. LeSean McCoy ran for almost 900 yards, Tyrod and Karlos Williams for 500 each. Sammy Watkins had a 1000 yard receiving season, but Charles Clay (at that time a hot TE around the league) had 50+ receptions for over 500 yards and 3 TDs. It's virtually the same as well. Eerily, in fact.
Yes, It's The same! RPO'S! But it worked like a Charm! 14&2! GO RAVENS!!!!!
Moves like Sayers and Sanders and an arm that is greatly improved. These by themselves don't guarantee success. Reading the defenses by hours of study are also needed. Lamar puts in the time and has proven that he understands these defenses. The difference between Jackson and Flacco is that Jackson WILL go through his reads. With Jacksons agility, the linebackers have to STAY in their lanes and NOT blitz because they KNOW that if they miss (and most do) Lamar will have an open lane, The defenses worst nightmare? Lamar in open space.
Dean Pees is the kryptonite to this offense.
Counter for a counter n don't forget it can turn that run into a pass
I believe you're thinking of an RPO, this is zone read. The ravens do run some RPOs but wasn't talked about in the video
@@AlexRollinsNFL that y I love our OC give ur offense more options defense adjust ok cool hey let's adjust the offense unlike last year playoff. That why I like there chances against any defense
@@kennethpowell7832 Yeah, best QB in 2019 and my pick to win the superbowl
Well shouldn't a "QUARTERback" actually be able to RUN the ball around 25% of the time? Hmmmmm.....!
Funny I saw this when we (Niners) played them. Their whole game looked like exactly what Roman was trying to run with us (And I'm guessing the real reason we gave Alex Smith's job to Kap) just with a much better QB to run it. Roman tried to institute this at the wrong time in SF, seems to be working better in Baltimore but we'll see. It has failed before.
It's not the same offense. Roman added QB power runs, QB zone runs, etc. in addition to what he did with Kap. Lamar is a much better passer and a shiftier runner than Kap.
@@LoanwordEggcorn Kaepernick 2.0 all the same shit he'll be figured out soon enough
Anthony p are you going to write that on every post🤨 OK! We get it, ppl with figure it out.
@@alonmars2590 last i checked no one stopping me lil bitch
@@LoanwordEggcorn Fair enough, no not exactly the same but a more evolved version of the same stuff. I was impressed, really haven't seen that kid play much before last week except highlights he is what they say he is lol.
Soooo true and NFL defenses are about to catch up over next few weeks
And as much as I hate the Patriots, it will be them that do it 1st. Pats have shown they are a different team in the playoffs.
You know why I'm here right?
@@WilsonianGarveyite so you dont get fined ;)
9:21... that poor man's ankles.. So sad
You find every single way to mention the 49ers somehow dude.