love your LP attack. I am a penholder and I attack with my forehand with LP as if its an inverted rubber. my backhand is short pips. thanks for sharing your video. you have good backhand attack with your long pimples. what rubber do you use on the forehand? and which LP do you use?
@@kavarasings9813 Thank you. I usually change rubbers very often, to test material. Last season I spent several weeks with short pips on the forehand and long pips on the backhand. Since summer I have been playing with Grass dtecs aceed green OX on the backhand and TSP ventus spin on the forehand. This week I returned to my beloved Curl P1 0.5 and ventus spin. I also try different woods, but I currently compete with hinoki Darker's woods
This is surely great tutorial. I just have two questions: 1. Do you use hand wrist in your hitting or is it more tensed? 2. How the ball does not go high, because, in your supination technique, I see that you open the blade. So, how do you adjust the possibility of the ball going over the table. And is it the same technique for both backspin and topspin
When I teach the technique at initiation, I tell them to first get used to rotating the forearm (supinate), when it is acquired, if you use the wrist the hit has more power. Yes, I use the wrist at the end of the hit That is the most difficult part, each blade-rubber combination has an angle, with some pimples you have to open more for topspin balls and with others more for backspin. as you know it's practice, and not change the material much, like I do 😊
Im a pimple user and i taught how to used pimps in attack. For me you can used this like a backspin but you need to wrist and arms to make it possible... One thing you need to choosed which service of your opponent can you used it. It is more effective in side spin or side chop but when it comes to chop you need to put extra effort or power to make it possible... Dont make it super late if you use it a little bit late or on the rise of the more effective
@@bunso5103 What you say is true, in many cases. But with OX pimples and stiff woods (but not too hard) it can be easier to attack balls with backspin than side spin or side chop. The only bad thing is that the ball he returns can be easily attacked. Of course, once the gesture is internalized, the wrist must be incorporated, not just the forearm
I've been playing long pips for three years, and compared to you, I'm very, very weak. Looking at your attack, it is hard to believe that you are attacking with a long pips. It looks fantastic. How to train it?
I have two defensive blades: STIGA Defensive Wood NCT and Sauer & Troger Firestarter. I play Tibhar Q5 SOUND on FH and Sauer & Troger Hellfire on BH. I tried similar moves to yours but it was a big misunderstanding in my performance. What should I pay the most attention to? Where to start learning such plays?
@@andrzej7954 Focus only on the supination of the forearm. Don't work with your shoulder. Only forearm, How hitting the ball but starting with the blade more open
@@andrzej7954Tip. récord yourself with your mobile phone, so you can see how you do the gesture and correcto It if necesary. It is very importante so that you can do It correctly
No crees que la Rosewood OX es una madera demasiado rápida y rígida para el uso de picos largos? Yo uso la RWV y es una madera bastante exigente para ser de 5 capas , y sobre todo escupe mucha bola...
Con los TroubleMaker OX la siento muy bien, puedo atacar, cortar atrás, empujar, es una madera dura pero no tan rígida. Con la Carbonado 145 que lleva carbón me cuesta bastante atacar con los picos, esta es más rígida. ¿RWV es la Rosewood V? yo elegí la XO por una cuestión de peso, buscaba una madera más rápida entorno a los 80gr
@@SeghosTableTennis sí, RWV es la Rosewood normal de 5 capas. La mía pesa en torno a 87-88, pero es cierto que algunas son muy ligeras y en torno a los 80 y pocos gramos. La carbonado 145 es más rápida, la mía en velocidad se asemeja más a la 45 normal solo que tiene un toque más seco y rígido y resulta menos elástica.
eso depende más de como te encuentres tu más cómodo. De la dos formas es posible, aunque sea más común el pico largo al revés, si te sientes cómodo bloqueando y controlando el juego de revés y picando con la derecha con el pico largo es perfectamente válido, pero como te decía eso depende de lo que resulte más cómodo a tu estilo de juego y con lo que tengas más control
Genial el vídeo. Hay muy poca gente capaz de desarrollar esa técnica y mucho más difícil enseñarla. Poca gente sabe lo extremadamente difícil que es atacar con esa confianza con gomas de pico largo.
Yo siempre intento que aprendan así, porque no limitas el gesto de revés, si alguna vez quieren pasar a corto o lisa es fácil adaptarse. Pero efectivamente no siempre es posible
In the last video there are 2 errors: 1 - As you hit the ball you go backwards. 2 - Your arm is very stiff at all times, and that doesn't help at all to get the ball over the net. / Although the OX do not help in the attack and you have to use your arm more, you already have control in the attack technique. You might want to use the rubber with some sponge to increase the speed of the attack (up to 1.0-1-3). Greetings.
Gracias a ti por el apoyo, anima a seguir subiendo videos. En uno o dos días voy a subir otro vídeo probando varios picos largos para atacar, y la próxima semana otro para defender
Without knowing your style of play it is more complicated, but I leave my opinion. I played with that combination rubbers with a butterfly matshusita pro (the old one) with a classic defensive style, it is a rather slow wood-only racket. With Ox close on the table I personally like rather rigid and hard blade but only wood. But the best advice I can give you is to look for one that you like, if possible try a teammate's and once that you choose one with which you feel comfortable, do not make changes and train with it, you will master your material more and more, and the same applies to rubbers.
@@SeghosTableTennis I am playing at the table and recently I tried stiga infinity vps v but it was too fast, maybe it's better to try tibhar stratus powerwood? I play Chinese sticky gum on the forehand and use the pin to lead the ball to the attack
@@crystaL-mr3qu I haven't tried those woods, but from what I've read the Infinity has good characteristics to play with ox pipmples, if you find it too hard, the S. power wood will be more comfortable, but as I mentioned in the previous message, try not to change too much material. "Chinese sticky gum", does it have an optimizer?). I find a Chinese rubber without an optimizer too hard for the Infinity with the SPW it would combine better
@@SeghosTableTennis okay i try SPW, i playing dhs hurricane 3 neo 2.15mm 39 degrees on fh, without booster the stiga was too fast, mayber better spw i try
You can also use it, you will have to practice with your rubber. I have tried with the dr neubauer ABS 2 EVO 2.5 mm, I suppose it is similar to your rubber. It is a very slow rubber, and the ball tends to fall off. I personally prefer long pimples, because my game is more active, but each player has their own style of play.
@@rahimtalib8269 soon I will post a video with the best long pimples to attack (in my opinion). the best or suitable can be ambiguous terms. The easiest to manage, the one that generates the most disturbance, with or without a sponge...please give me a few days to up video
I’d love to play against this long pips guy. He would hardly get any points. 1- attack his serves (very mediocre serves) 2- counter the backhand with flat (open racket) backhand. 3- for variety, role the ball nice and slow and deep to his background and wait for an easy ball to hit. I still think long pips and anti rubber should be banned. They only work against new players and gives unfair advantage to the user.
I'll love it, it'll be fun so you can test my services ;). What you say are proper tactics against long pimples, and I agree that playing against pimples is fun. I respect your opinion, but I do not share it, different materials give the game more variety, enrich the game, make it more fun and It forces players to think and not be mini robots.
@@zenjo6214 Long pips is disadvantageous against club players and beginners. It takes a while to learn to play against them. 99% table tennis players are club players. Junk robber players, including this particular player win games above their skill level, thanks to their rubber. I don't see how uncommon playing surfaces helps the sport. You don't see junk string rackets in tennis, for good reason.
how about short pips? should they be banned too? Have you try playing with long pips? its not easy to master it. Also , once a player has a rating of 1650 or above, pimples do not worry them. if you are a good inverted player, pimples poses no problem at all. Maybe you need to improve your skills so you can play against all types of rubbers. from your comment, you must be a sub 1600 player. ratings central is an international scoring system. you can google it.
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Review long pimples to attack th-cam.com/video/rPxN7vbZjoI/w-d-xo.html
love your LP attack. I am a penholder and I attack with my forehand with LP as if its an inverted rubber. my backhand is short pips. thanks for sharing your video. you have good backhand attack with your long pimples. what rubber do you use on the forehand? and which LP do you use?
@@kavarasings9813 Thank you. I usually change rubbers very often, to test material. Last season I spent several weeks with short pips on the forehand and long pips on the backhand. Since summer I have been playing with Grass dtecs aceed green OX on the backhand and TSP ventus spin on the forehand. This week I returned to my beloved Curl P1 0.5 and ventus spin. I also try different woods, but I currently compete with hinoki Darker's woods
This is surely great tutorial. I just have two questions:
1. Do you use hand wrist in your hitting or is it more tensed?
2. How the ball does not go high, because, in your supination technique, I see that you open the blade. So, how do you adjust the possibility of the ball going over the table. And is it the same technique for both backspin and topspin
When I teach the technique at initiation, I tell them to first get used to rotating the forearm (supinate), when it is acquired, if you use the wrist the hit has more power. Yes, I use the wrist at the end of the hit
That is the most difficult part, each blade-rubber combination has an angle, with some pimples you have to open more for topspin balls and with others more for backspin. as you know it's practice, and not change the material much, like I do 😊
Im a pimple user and i taught how to used pimps in attack. For me you can used this like a backspin but you need to wrist and arms to make it possible... One thing you need to choosed which service of your opponent can you used it. It is more effective in side spin or side chop but when it comes to chop you need to put extra effort or power to make it possible... Dont make it super late if you use it a little bit late or on the rise of the more effective
@@bunso5103 What you say is true, in many cases. But with OX pimples and stiff woods (but not too hard) it can be easier to attack balls with backspin than side spin or side chop. The only bad thing is that the ball he returns can be easily attacked. Of course, once the gesture is internalized, the wrist must be incorporated, not just the forearm
im having a hard time with pimple racket with no sponge on backhand. i hope there is one more vid about this. thank u
03:42 Имитация BH гладкой и с шипами периодически меняя стороны
04:24 Тренировка с партнером, который играет BH короткими шипами
thanks for the translation, it sure helps other users
I've been playing long pips for three years, and compared to you, I'm very, very weak. Looking at your attack, it is hard to believe that you are attacking with a long pips. It looks fantastic.
How to train it?
most of the time I train other people. I train about two hours a week for myself
I have two defensive blades:
STIGA Defensive Wood NCT and Sauer & Troger Firestarter.
I play Tibhar Q5 SOUND on FH and Sauer & Troger Hellfire on BH.
I tried similar moves to yours but it was a big misunderstanding in my performance.
What should I pay the most attention to? Where to start learning such plays?
@@andrzej7954 Focus only on the supination of the forearm. Don't work with your shoulder. Only forearm, How hitting the ball but starting with the blade more open
@@SeghosTableTennis I'm starting training with your tips
@@andrzej7954Tip. récord yourself with your mobile phone, so you can see how you do the gesture and correcto It if necesary. It is very importante so that you can do It correctly
Can you share with me a bit of experience on the long spike attack technique? thank
Could you be a little more specific about what you want to know? Thanks
No crees que la Rosewood OX es una madera demasiado rápida y rígida para el uso de picos largos?
Yo uso la RWV y es una madera bastante exigente para ser de 5 capas , y sobre todo escupe mucha bola...
Con los TroubleMaker OX la siento muy bien, puedo atacar, cortar atrás, empujar, es una madera dura pero no tan rígida. Con la Carbonado 145 que lleva carbón me cuesta bastante atacar con los picos, esta es más rígida. ¿RWV es la Rosewood V? yo elegí la XO por una cuestión de peso, buscaba una madera más rápida entorno a los 80gr
@@SeghosTableTennis sí, RWV es la Rosewood normal de 5 capas. La mía pesa en torno a 87-88, pero es cierto que algunas son muy ligeras y en torno a los 80 y pocos gramos. La carbonado 145 es más rápida, la mía en velocidad se asemeja más a la 45 normal solo que tiene un toque más seco y rígido y resulta menos elástica.
Tienes algun video similar pero con picos largos con esponja, uso Victas P4
Tenemos pendiente sacar un video de los mejores picos para defender atrás entre los que estará el P4
estimado una consulta derecha picos largos curl 2 y reves joola espress o mejor al reves?
eso depende más de como te encuentres tu más cómodo. De la dos formas es posible, aunque sea más común el pico largo al revés, si te sientes cómodo bloqueando y controlando el juego de revés y picando con la derecha con el pico largo es perfectamente válido, pero como te decía eso depende de lo que resulte más cómodo a tu estilo de juego y con lo que tengas más control
Muy util...
Muchas gracias!
Genial el vídeo. Hay muy poca gente capaz de desarrollar esa técnica y mucho más difícil enseñarla. Poca gente sabe lo extremadamente difícil que es atacar con esa confianza con gomas de pico largo.
Yo siempre intento que aprendan así, porque no limitas el gesto de revés, si alguna vez quieren pasar a corto o lisa es fácil adaptarse. Pero efectivamente no siempre es posible
Pienso igual que tu. Saludos desde Argentina.
In the last video there are 2 errors: 1 - As you hit the ball you go backwards. 2 - Your arm is very stiff at all times, and that doesn't help at all to get the ball over the net. / Although the OX do not help in the attack and you have to use your arm more, you already have control in the attack technique. You might want to use the rubber with some sponge to increase the speed of the attack (up to 1.0-1-3). Greetings.
thanks for your contributions
Se podría poner los subtítulos en espanish, plis?
Ya tienes los subtítulos en español 👍
Y para cualquier duda, ya sabes pregunta
I cant for the life of me start attacking with the Troublemaker 😢 I had way better performance with my old Feint Long III
With Feint Long III it is easy to attack, but the ball barely truble
I'll try following your tips and start attacking more with Troublemaker!
@@brunobarcelos2621 try to follow the advice in this video, about 3:30 minut
Gracias por el video. Me he suscrito al canal. Uso Dornenglanz OX con Stiga VPS.
Gracias a ti por el apoyo, anima a seguir subiendo videos. En uno o dos días voy a subir otro vídeo probando varios picos largos para atacar, y la próxima semana otro para defender
Это полезное для меня видео, я играю длинными шипами. Большое спасибо!
I'm glad it helped you, thanks for comment
против чайников хоть доской для резки хлеба можно играть ))
What blades would you recommend for Chinese sticky gum on fh and long pips ox on bh?
Without knowing your style of play it is more complicated, but I leave my opinion. I played with that combination rubbers with a butterfly matshusita pro (the old one) with a classic defensive style, it is a rather slow wood-only racket.
With Ox close on the table I personally like rather rigid and hard blade but only wood. But the best advice I can give you is to look for one that you like, if possible try a teammate's and once that you choose one with which you feel comfortable, do not make changes and train with it, you will master your material more and more, and the same applies to rubbers.
@@SeghosTableTennis I am playing at the table and recently I tried stiga infinity vps v but it was too fast, maybe it's better to try tibhar stratus powerwood? I play Chinese sticky gum on the forehand and use the pin to lead the ball to the attack
@@crystaL-mr3qu I haven't tried those woods, but from what I've read the Infinity has good characteristics to play with ox pipmples, if you find it too hard, the S. power wood will be more comfortable, but as I mentioned in the previous message, try not to change too much material. "Chinese sticky gum", does it have an optimizer?). I find a Chinese rubber without an optimizer too hard for the Infinity with the SPW it would combine better
@@SeghosTableTennis okay i try SPW, i playing dhs hurricane 3 neo 2.15mm 39 degrees on fh, without booster the stiga was too fast, mayber better spw i try
Avalox P500
Boleh ke saya guna cara ini dengan getah Anti saya..saya guna Dr neubauer ABS PRO anti
You can also use it, you will have to practice with your rubber. I have tried with the dr neubauer ABS 2 EVO 2.5 mm, I suppose it is similar to your rubber. It is a very slow rubber, and the ball tends to fall off. I personally prefer long pimples, because my game is more active, but each player has their own style of play.
@@SeghosTableTennis ..jika saya bertukar pada long pimple, boleh kah saya tahu jenis long pimple apa yang sesuai untuk backhand attack?
@@rahimtalib8269 soon I will post a video with the best long pimples to attack (in my opinion). the best or suitable can be ambiguous terms. The easiest to manage, the one that generates the most disturbance, with or without a sponge...please give me a few days to up video
@@SeghosTableTennis ...ok terima kasih atas perkongsian dan saya tunggu video dari anda😊
@@rahimtalib8269 th-cam.com/video/rPxN7vbZjoI/w-d-xo.html
Mantaap
Thanks
blocking with longpips close to the table and mid/far please 🙏
ok, we take note
I need to learn it also.
I’d love to play against this long pips guy. He would hardly get any points.
1- attack his serves (very mediocre serves)
2- counter the backhand with flat (open
racket) backhand.
3- for variety, role the ball nice and slow and
deep to his background and wait for an
easy ball to hit.
I still think long pips and anti rubber should be banned. They only work against new players and gives unfair advantage to the user.
I'll love it, it'll be fun so you can test my services ;). What you say are proper tactics against long pimples, and I agree that playing against pimples is fun.
I respect your opinion, but I do not share it, different materials give the game more variety, enrich the game, make it more fun and It forces players to think and not be mini robots.
Lol embrace the game. Various different playstyles and strategies to win. Thats what makes it fun!
So long pips are a disadvantage and easy to play against. But they should be banned because they give an unfair advantage. Your logic is irrefutable 🤣
@@zenjo6214 Long pips is disadvantageous against club players and beginners. It takes a while to learn to play against them. 99% table tennis players are club players. Junk robber players, including this particular player win games above their skill level, thanks to their rubber. I don't see how uncommon playing surfaces helps the sport. You don't see junk string rackets in tennis, for good reason.
how about short pips? should they be banned too? Have you try playing with long pips? its not easy to master it. Also , once a player has a rating of 1650 or above, pimples do not worry them. if you are a good inverted player, pimples poses no problem at all. Maybe you need to improve your skills so you can play against all types of rubbers. from your comment, you must be a sub 1600 player. ratings central is an international scoring system. you can google it.
Kpl
Pardon my ignorance, what is the meaning of Kpl?
Incredible video 😊
Gracias
@@SeghosTableTennis Spanish 🇪🇸 👍 super