Wow, this was really good. My favorite part is "the celebration is not the same, there is a sadness involved..." that is the most Human statement I have hear a modern hunter say, and I felt it really deep in me. Thanks!
Please gentlemen keep videos just like this coming!!! Your experience and knowledge is really helpful for a second year bowhunter like myself. Good stuff boys🤘🤘👊👊
One caveat I always add to this conversation is from us southern whitetail bow hunters: the "when in doubt, back out" mantra is a rare thing for us. During our bow seasons (GA, for me specifically), the temperature only drops to maybe the mid 70s at night. If you are a hunter concerned with meat in any way, we ALWAYS laugh at these shows who just flippantly say "we'll back out and find him the AM." Well, that's great. Y'all live in a refridgerator, we don't. Lethal shots are paramount on our hunts or that deer is spoiled meat and/or coyote food.
I want to thank you guys for posting this video, and providing all the useful information. I have always been "scared" of hitting the shoulder, and have always been taught to aim for the crease. I shot a buck last night that was quartering towards me, and I went right up the front leg and made a perfect shot through the heart. If I had aimed at the crease, I likely would've caught one lung/liver/stomach, and it could have ended up being a very long evening. Instead, it was a blood trail as if someone had taken a bucket of blood and poured it the entire 75 yards until I found the animal expired. Thank you guys for the awesome information, and the always exciting content.
good stuff. I think another good thing to have in mind is how the deer will spin when quartered to. Ive never seen one spin into the sound of the shot. Knowing theyre going to open up those vitals for you on the drop is comforting.
Love these type of videos and how you explain your hunts I find it very educational. I am always looking for ways to help myself improve and watching your videos is a great tool for that they are very useful. Thank you.
I just got my first buck on public this weekend. I used the info in this video to move my aimpoint forward and lower on the deer. He went down within 40 yards. Thanks for all the helpful tips like this.
The buck I shot last year was slightly quartering to from the ground at 10-12yds...i remember it felt like an eternity of aiming even though in reality it was probably less than 2 seconds. Adrenaline causes you to hyper focus and time "stands still". Take your time to aim guys, itll pay off. I watched mine tip over cuz of it.
I’m glad I watched this because I gut shot a deer last year because I feared for ever that if I hit the leg or shoulder (this has been told to me over and over) it won’t pass. I basically found after actually looking at my shot and see where I aimed and how the deer dropped and turned even off by a few inches I was at the gut. The last shot I made that dropped a deer quickly got broken off immediately by the leg but dropped the deer quickly. After hearing this and seeing these shots I fear less and feel you should trust your gear and place it low and further forward.
My first shot on a deer was a week ago. I hit behind shoulder with a fixed blade. At 12 yards. Never could find the deer. Needless to say I’ll be aiming much further forward from here on out.
On the SD buck, I would of aimed in the pocket between the shoulder & brisket. Just a little right of where he hit the deer Double lung/heart and just ribs bones in the way. Great video as usual!👍
What's up guys. Loved the video. Very good subject to discuss. I've also changed my approach to shot placement. I've always aimed a little low, but not as far forward as I am now. Thanks to your videos I've learned quite a bit that I didn't know. I think this season is going to be prosperous one.
Maybe a similar video about where to hit turkeys? I took two shots this year that felt good and seem to cut feathers yet the bird just stood there after the shot and walked away. Close shots too 15-20 yards. Its amazing if you are off by an inch on a turkey compared to a bigger target like deer.
I think I would have difficulty aiming both that low and that far forward unless I practiced it all summer. I don’t care about scoring on 3d animals anyway but people I shoot with, mostly non hunters, think I missed my shot when I aim for the vital V. I’m happy with my shots and they coach me trying to get my shot center mass. I just smile and say I’ll try harder. I practice for short blood trails not perfect 3d scores. Great video boys.
Interesting. I have been burned so many times by shoulder bone shots that I started aiming further back to avoid that risk(and I am having more success as a result). Is the "low and forward" placement only for folks with pinpoint accuracy or is there something I am missing when it comes to the shoulder bone problem?
I've been bow hunting for over 50 years now and I can't tell you how many deer I've seen over the years with arrows and broadheads sticking out of their shoulder. There is a lot of pressure around me. I aim for the heart. If the deer doesn't move I get them and if they drop a little you still get the lungs. I rarely have a deer go over 35 to 40 yards when I hit the lungs. There is no pinpoint Accuracy when shooting a animal. A deer can move for a variety of reasons. I shot a buck in the heart once and found him 3 hours later and had to make a follow up shot. When cleaning him there was an x in the middle of his heart from the fixed blade broadhead I was shooting. There are no guarantees just do what works best for you Good luck this season.
I’m here because this past weekend I liver shot buck at 31 yards and tracked him 210 yards. I jumped him out where he was bedding and never found him again a.
Where’s the turkey videos?! They hit a brick wall? You’ve created a pile of redneck addicts and now we’re all suffering from withdrawals! Haha. Love you guys
Another point is being able to hold your bow up for a minute at a time, it should be trained like a workout, multiple times a week leading up to opening day.
So, are you guys aiming for the intrance or the exit ? I read a book about bow hunting that was the best way to aim for the exit. By orienting the vitals to be in the line of the arrow. Because the deer may never give you a broad side angle or picture perfect?
Great content! I recently watched a video, can’t remember who it was, but they were showing how much more explosive a deer can react when it’s head is down in sort of the feeding position compared to the head straight up. I never noticed it before but they’re already in that compressed spring position like a sprinter would be. Just thought I’d share!
I’m not sure y’all will see this comment, but figured I give a shout. I’m a now retired college athlete and avid competitor. I have had my fair share of high stakes moments, however, nothing makes my adrenaline race more than preparing for a shot. How do y’all battle your “nerves” and what allows you to stay so calm? Great video as always!
Another excellent educational video. You guys are always willing to take the time to show us how it should be done. I hope Zach is doing better and staying off his feet. Get well soon, we want to see you out there in the woods.
Very good video! RF would be proud. Forward placement, heavy arrows, solid, sharp broadheads = game changer. I wish I had known this stuff 30 years ago…thanks for sharing solid and helpful information with your hunting followers.
Being able to have confidence in your equipment is also a huge key. a 340 shaft with a 200 grizzly stick, or an Iron will, wide, single bevel!! getting caught up in speed bows & mechanicals has ruined confidence for prime shot placement for lots of hunters. fearing to hit the front shoulder. Lose a little speed, & increase your Impact performance. I'm shooting a mathews switch back xt at 62 pounds 28" draw. My arrow set ups are 550+ grain. A single shoulder doesn't stop them & makes an already really quiet Bow even better.
Im always worried I’m going to hit the shoulder blade when aiming at the shoulder instead of meat and as of right now I don’t think I have the arrow setup to punch through a shoulder bladebut don’t know for sure because I haven’t hit a shoulder blade yet
After hearing RF discuss jumping the string and his indication that the fletchings were the more probable culprit causing animals to jump before impact, I had to stand down range and listen to a couple shots. Those fletchings sound like a pissed off Hornet buzzing past. The twang of the bow almost goes unnoticed by comparison. These animals can easily hear the fletchings ripping the air and the only way to interpret that sound is a threat.
Agree with shot forward in vital v. Right over the heart, through both lungs. Sharpening your broadheads if less than shaving sharp helps increase hemorrhaging and decrease clotting
Great video. Very glad you point out the placement of the ten ring on 3d deer targets. Fine to practice hitting them, but know where to aim on real, live game. We owe that respect to the game. Again great video, good visual examples. 👍
By aiming further forward have you ever had problems “hitting the shoulder” and therefore not getting good penetration? I know this is part of the reason you guys promote fixed blades, but for younger hunters or those pulling less poundage can shoulder shots be problematic?
That was the best explanation. I’ve tried to explain to my boy shot placement, and when to shoot or not too. This explains it all. Thanks for another great video.
Man what a great video! I can’t get enough of Greg’s insight on deer hunting Dan might be the big buck serial killer but Greg is the deer terminator! He’s a machine! Good luck to all this upcoming season and be safe!🦌
Yeah I can't stand it when out-of-state Hunters come to our state and just think they can throw a arrow in a dear anywhere to try to put it down ...just gets on my nerves ,no wonder I find so many dead heads in the woods ,people owe it to the animal to put a good shot on it!
Hi, guys great video,... And you guys are correct... If you look at a deers anatomy, front leg bone structure, when a deer is standing, full erect.., For them to move quickly or jump ,... the only way for that to happen, the very first movement, has to be " down ", For this to happen. That is why we all have to remember, this vitally important information... Always aiming low, is always your best 😊 bet!" ! Even if you may miss", you will usually miss clean with no harm to the animal,whatsoever. Hit," and it is usually a success!!! 😁😃👍 Luv ya guys!, greatjob once again, keep up the good 👍 work!
This is great info you guys are sharing. I'm a 20 yard and in guy. I have taken a deer a little farther (25 yds), but I know 20 yards is my true max. Shot angle is important to me (ground/tree stand). I too, shoot into the vital V a little tighter (and yes, I have hit too far forward before, but I have also hit to far back an those seem to be the longest track jobs). Knowing your bow and being honest of it's capabilities is probably underrated. Great Video.
I wish every hunter would have to see at least one video like this before being able to buy a license. We see so many hunters? that hit deer in the wrong places. Too many see the tv hunters taking high lung hits as common and the thing to do. They need to learn what and where the “ golden triangle “ is. And where to aim from elevated places. Taking long? distance shots ( IMO 35 yards max) shouldn’t be taken unless you’re trying to finish killing a wounded animal. Another issue that gets me so damn mad is the guy, not a hunter IMO, that starts shooting two weeks or even three weeks before opening day. That is a huge part of WHERE TO SHOOT A DEER as most of these people just find hair and shoot.
There seem to be a lot of videos on the market showing “kill shots” for example something like “30 kill shots in 30 seconds”. as an archery deer hunter in Minnesota what I’m most interested in is, yes, the point of impact, giving me a chance to test my understanding against the video, but more than that I value what happens after the shot. I realize it’s hard to both hunt and film But those first few seconds after the shot are drilled into my memory. I’m searching for indications that tell me something about the shot, good or bad. Lacking that kind of video follow up a detailed description Of the thoughts that run through the mind of the hunter as he tries to make order out of what just happened can be very helpful. Your video and others by the hunting public attempt to do just that. I commend you and like other comments I urge you to keep it up.
I’m all for killing deer with the bow. It’s my passion. That said, I disagree on this subject. Practice, practice, practice good techniques. When you start getting good shots on target, practice even more. I don’t often hear about unrecovered deer from those who who don’t skip practice. Find the farthest distance you are comfortable taking a kill shot at then double that distance and practice there. I will never aim for the heart. That’s is the best cut of meat on the dear! I think it is a terrible offense to waste the heart. You do not have to hit the heart. The double lung is more than adequate to kill any deer.
Great information on deer anatomy. I feel like there is a lot of misinformation on bears though. "Shoot middle of the middle". I've killed 3 bears with a bow, all shot in the vital V and all heart shot. In my experiences their organs are not "farther back" as advertised. Can you shed any light?
I still second guess myself when I see the shot hit right where THP and Ranch Fairy tell me to hit. It’s just so much lower and farther forward than the generic “behind the shoulder” way of thinking. And yet the deer almost always has a triangular hole through its heart.
I have a decent bow, plenty of speed, so not sure why this works for me but after getting ducked on 28 times in a row when I started bow hunting, I started putting the pin 2" below the deer center vitals and I've drilled em every time since.
In my experience, the lungs are a priority to the heart. Behind the shoulder in the vital V will achieve the quickest kill. A wide cutting broadhead in the V region with sufficient energy to create a pass-through is the ticket.
Your bow should shoot relatively flat out to 25 yards... I like the fact that you pre-ranged before hand. The constant ranging on deer that are clearly within range is very ameture for lack of better term.
can you elaborate a little bit on. where to aim from shooting from an elevated position??? I feel like I have heard so many different things. Should you. aim low?
i shot a doe this year that appeared broadside but was very slightly turned. I aimed straight up the leg lower one third and hit two inches forward on a slightly quartering away. I give her a couple hours and went and got my dog. She was dead, but upon inspection, the arrow never entered the cavity.
Great video, very informative. I got my first bow, and shot a doe the other day. Unfortunately, I bumped it and four of us searching for hours never recovered the deer. Watching to make sure I make a better shot in the future!
Can you guys make a video on when to not eat the meat. Like after you back and and come in the next day. What’s yaks take on not keeping the meat. Thanks
Really good info guys. I shot a buck last year, nice 8 point, 9 yards from the ground, hit slightly high but still center lungs. The arrow stopped half way through. He snapped 6 inches off the fletch end on a tree. Waited about 45 minutes before I started looking for blood, but I saw the arrow as he ran off, knew it was a good hit. Followed blood for about 100 yards, then backed out. He ran 450 yards before I lost blood. Had a dog come in and couldn't find him. Looked for 3 days and never recovered him. I decided right then I needed to step up my arrow set up and my shot placement. Thanks guys for the videos! Great work! Ps, ended up with a doe 2 weeks later, same spot.
I've never had a deer "jump the string". I shoot Hoyt, I don't shoot heavy arrows, I use the factory arrows (Goldtips) and strip the vains off cut them down to the right draw length on the shelf and use short vains of my choice. I use a 125 grain mechanical ( rocket )broadheads which is a small diameter. I will use silencers and stabilizers. My goal is too have a quiet bow, and decent speed and I know where to hit my target. It's never failed me. I set my daughter's bow up the same way and she shoots a 50 lbs Hoyt and gets full pass throughs. Silent and deadly...
The biggest thing that’s helped me is forcing myself not to pick up the bow right away. Let my heart rate slow down, and then going through my shot process slowly and pulling though the shot.
Nice. The only comment I would add is that the aiming point for bear is vastly different. I remember several years ago, the new "game face" of the Block came out. Anatomically speaking the aiming point for a walking bear's heart was way off the mark. I wondered who the designer was, and if they ever got any flack from real life hunters. What's you opinion on bear?
I learned just how low you can hit a deer during the 2022 season. Using my 350 legend sighted in at 100yrds. I had a buck 148yrds away standing in a bedding area locked down on a doe. I knew the bullet would drop but I had no idea how much. Aiming at the shoulder with a perfect broadside shot I squeezed the trigger. Gun fires and the deer jumps out from the bedding into the open field. Sitting there thinking why on earth this deer isn't running I quickly considered a follow-up shot. Reaching for the bolt to put another round in the chamber I watch my first ever split brow tine 8 point drop on the spot. Walking up to the deer I find the entry hole 3 inches up from the bottom of the deer. While field dressing the deer I found the bottom point of the heart was blown out and the bullet remained in the chest cavity. I learned a lot that night and will definitely remember to factor in bullet drop more as well as energy loss on longer shots. This hunting story is much longer than what I wrote and is one I'll be telling till the end of time.
First you guys are awesome! Keep the videos coming. The crew is what makes it… alright my question is… what kind of 3D decoy do you recommend? Is there a brand or model that you think is the best? If the vital area is focused on the corner of the foam insert, do you paint an area in lower corner? How do you go about setting up your 3D decoy? Thank you for your time.
2 years ago my daughter shot a nice 10 pt through the heart. It ran 40 yards and we watched it pile up, but there was almost no blood trail. Last year, I was filming a guy and he shot a buck through the heart, almost cutting the heart in half. It walked a few yards, then trotted off, dying about 100 yards away. That deer didn’t bleed much, either, and the track job was actually a little tricky. Yes, a heart shot is lethal, but I’ll always go for double lungs.
That was waaaay low at 7:49. No way that was double lung. Bad shot. If you had not hit the heart it would have been single lung, gone! You needed to aim 6” higher to center punch, double lung, right over the heart.
Wow, this was really good. My favorite part is "the celebration is not the same, there is a sadness involved..." that is the most Human statement I have hear a modern hunter say, and I felt it really deep in me. Thanks!
Me too. I've always felt that way when I recover a deer that didn't expire quickly.
Please gentlemen keep videos just like this coming!!! Your experience and knowledge is really helpful for a second year bowhunter like myself. Good stuff boys🤘🤘👊👊
Agreed! Would love more videos like this
One caveat I always add to this conversation is from us southern whitetail bow hunters: the "when in doubt, back out" mantra is a rare thing for us. During our bow seasons (GA, for me specifically), the temperature only drops to maybe the mid 70s at night. If you are a hunter concerned with meat in any way, we ALWAYS laugh at these shows who just flippantly say "we'll back out and find him the AM." Well, that's great. Y'all live in a refridgerator, we don't. Lethal shots are paramount on our hunts or that deer is spoiled meat and/or coyote food.
2nd year hunting, first year with a bow. Thanks for the video!!
The education you guys continue to provide is wonderful!! Keep it coming THP!
Love the content! As someone who is just getting into bowhunting, this info is worth it's weight in gold. Please do more stuff like this!
I want to thank you guys for posting this video, and providing all the useful information. I have always been "scared" of hitting the shoulder, and have always been taught to aim for the crease. I shot a buck last night that was quartering towards me, and I went right up the front leg and made a perfect shot through the heart. If I had aimed at the crease, I likely would've caught one lung/liver/stomach, and it could have ended up being a very long evening. Instead, it was a blood trail as if someone had taken a bucket of blood and poured it the entire 75 yards until I found the animal expired. Thank you guys for the awesome information, and the always exciting content.
good stuff. I think another good thing to have in mind is how the deer will spin when quartered to. Ive never seen one spin into the sound of the shot. Knowing theyre going to open up those vitals for you on the drop is comforting.
Love these type of videos and how you explain your hunts I find it very educational. I am always looking for ways to help myself improve and watching your videos is a great tool for that they are very useful. Thank you.
I just got my first buck on public this weekend. I used the info in this video to move my aimpoint forward and lower on the deer. He went down within 40 yards. Thanks for all the helpful tips like this.
The buck I shot last year was slightly quartering to from the ground at 10-12yds...i remember it felt like an eternity of aiming even though in reality it was probably less than 2 seconds. Adrenaline causes you to hyper focus and time "stands still". Take your time to aim guys, itll pay off. I watched mine tip over cuz of it.
Vital information. 😏 This info you guys and Troy put out is gonna help a lot of hunters if they use it. 🤙🏼
I’m glad I watched this because I gut shot a deer last year because I feared for ever that if I hit the leg or shoulder (this has been told to me over and over) it won’t pass. I basically found after actually looking at my shot and see where I aimed and how the deer dropped and turned even off by a few inches I was at the gut. The last shot I made that dropped a deer quickly got broken off immediately by the leg but dropped the deer quickly. After hearing this and seeing these shots I fear less and feel you should trust your gear and place it low and further forward.
WOW!! You guys nailed it with this one. I agree 100%! Awesome Video. Keep the content coming!!
the devilish grin at 09:25. That's the goal. :D
My first shot on a deer was a week ago. I hit behind shoulder with a fixed blade. At 12 yards. Never could find the deer. Needless to say I’ll be aiming much further forward from here on out.
On the SD buck, I would of aimed in the pocket between the shoulder & brisket. Just a little right of where he hit the deer Double lung/heart and just ribs bones in the way. Great video as usual!👍
So glad you mentioned the 3d targets
Nothing like free lessons from The Hunting Professionals, THP 👍👍✌️.
Great content guys thanks
What's up guys. Loved the video. Very good subject to discuss. I've also changed my approach to shot placement. I've always aimed a little low, but not as far forward as I am now. Thanks to your videos I've learned quite a bit that I didn't know. I think this season is going to be prosperous one.
I appreciate Zach sporting the Whitetail Adrenaline shirt.
Maybe a similar video about where to hit turkeys? I took two shots this year that felt good and seem to cut feathers yet the bird just stood there after the shot and walked away. Close shots too 15-20 yards. Its amazing if you are off by an inch on a turkey compared to a bigger target like deer.
Would enjoy a video based on setups in relation to sign, trails, food, water. I have my own ways, but would like to see y’all’s as well!
I think I would have difficulty aiming both that low and that far forward unless I practiced it all summer. I don’t care about scoring on 3d animals anyway but people I shoot with, mostly non hunters, think I missed my shot when I aim for the vital V. I’m happy with my shots and they coach me trying to get my shot center mass. I just smile and say I’ll try harder. I practice for short blood trails not perfect 3d scores. Great video boys.
There's an old saying that will help all bow hunters, aim for your exit hole, not your entrance
NICE! I'm an old hunter, and I've never heard that.
Interesting. I have been burned so many times by shoulder bone shots that I started aiming further back to avoid that risk(and I am having more success as a result). Is the "low and forward" placement only for folks with pinpoint accuracy or is there something I am missing when it comes to the shoulder bone problem?
I've been bow hunting for over 50 years now and I can't tell you how many deer I've seen over the years with arrows and broadheads sticking out of their shoulder. There is a lot of pressure around me. I aim for the heart. If the deer doesn't move I get them and if they drop a little you still get the lungs. I rarely have a deer go over 35 to 40 yards when I hit the lungs. There is no pinpoint Accuracy when shooting a animal. A deer can move for a variety of reasons. I shot a buck in the heart once and found him 3 hours later and had to make a follow up shot. When cleaning him there was an x in the middle of his heart from the fixed blade broadhead I was shooting. There are no guarantees just do what works best for you Good luck this season.
great video! Thanks!
Awesome video! Maybe in the future you guys could do a video on your favorite strategies for ranging shots.
Great video and good information…
I’m here because this past weekend I liver shot buck at 31 yards and tracked him 210 yards. I jumped him out where he was bedding and never found him again a.
Where’s the turkey videos?! They hit a brick wall? You’ve created a pile of redneck addicts and now we’re all suffering from withdrawals! Haha. Love you guys
Great info. Keep it coming
It’s like “behind the shoulder” should be “above the elbow” lol! This video is AWESOME!!!
Loved this! Do you guys have one for elk?
Another point is being able to hold your bow up for a minute at a time, it should be trained like a workout, multiple times a week leading up to opening day.
You guys are the best. Thank you for all you do to educate the hunting community.
That knuckle is all that scares me I put 125 grain thunderhead about two inches of penetration about six inches above that heart
So, are you guys aiming for the intrance or the exit ? I read a book about bow hunting that was the best way to aim for the exit. By orienting the vitals to be in the line of the arrow. Because the deer may never give you a broad side angle or picture perfect?
Great content! I recently watched a video, can’t remember who it was, but they were showing how much more explosive a deer can react when it’s head is down in sort of the feeding position compared to the head straight up. I never noticed it before but they’re already in that compressed spring position like a sprinter would be. Just thought I’d share!
I’m not sure y’all will see this comment, but figured I give a shout. I’m a now retired college athlete and avid competitor. I have had my fair share of high stakes moments, however, nothing makes my adrenaline race more than preparing for a shot. How do y’all battle your “nerves” and what allows you to stay so calm? Great video as always!
Another excellent educational video. You guys are always willing to take the time to show us how it should be done. I hope Zach is doing better and staying off his feet. Get well soon, we want to see you out there in the woods.
Element crew needs to arch this…😄🏹
Very good video! RF would be proud. Forward placement, heavy arrows, solid, sharp broadheads = game changer. I wish I had known this stuff 30 years ago…thanks for sharing solid and helpful information with your hunting followers.
Kinda crazy you didn't know this 30 years ago. It was much more prevalent back then....
Yep! The 'Vital V'
Being able to have confidence in your equipment is also a huge key. a 340 shaft with a 200 grizzly stick, or an Iron will, wide, single bevel!! getting caught up in speed bows & mechanicals has ruined confidence for prime shot placement for lots of hunters. fearing to hit the front shoulder. Lose a little speed, & increase your Impact performance. I'm shooting a mathews switch back xt at 62 pounds 28" draw. My arrow set ups are 550+ grain. A single shoulder doesn't stop them & makes an already really quiet Bow even better.
Shot placement is most important as knowing where to set the stand
What about head up or down that makes a difference
Im always worried I’m going to hit the shoulder blade when aiming at the shoulder instead of meat and as of right now I don’t think I have the arrow setup to punch through a shoulder bladebut don’t know for sure because I haven’t hit a shoulder blade yet
After hearing RF discuss jumping the string and his indication that the fletchings were the more probable culprit causing animals to jump before impact, I had to stand down range and listen to a couple shots. Those fletchings sound like a pissed off Hornet buzzing past. The twang of the bow almost goes unnoticed by comparison. These animals can easily hear the fletchings ripping the air and the only way to interpret that sound is a threat.
After over 50 kills, If there's one thing I've learned....aim low!!! These guys are dead on!!!!!
Agree with shot forward in vital v. Right over the heart, through both lungs. Sharpening your broadheads if less than shaving sharp helps increase hemorrhaging and decrease clotting
Sitting here in the hospital with my day old daughter watching you guys
Great video. Very glad you point out the placement of the ten ring on 3d deer targets. Fine to practice hitting them, but know where to aim on real, live game. We owe that respect to the game. Again great video, good visual examples. 👍
A+++!!! Please... MORE of these type videos! Love when you get together as a group and breakdown hunts, covering the details.
Awesome. Good luck this season guys!
By aiming further forward have you ever had problems “hitting the shoulder” and therefore not getting good penetration? I know this is part of the reason you guys promote fixed blades, but for younger hunters or those pulling less poundage can shoulder shots be problematic?
That was the best explanation. I’ve tried to explain to my boy shot placement, and when to shoot or not too. This explains it all. Thanks for another great video.
Man what a great video! I can’t get enough of Greg’s insight on deer hunting Dan might be the big buck serial killer but Greg is the deer terminator! He’s a machine! Good luck to all this upcoming season and be safe!🦌
Yeah I can't stand it when out-of-state Hunters come to our state and just think they can throw a arrow in a dear anywhere to try to put it down ...just gets on my nerves ,no wonder I find so many dead heads in the woods ,people owe it to the animal to put a good shot on it!
Hi, guys great video,...
And you guys are correct...
If you look at a deers anatomy, front leg bone structure, when a deer is standing, full erect..,
For them to move quickly or jump ,... the only way for that to happen, the very first movement, has to be " down ",
For this to happen. That is why we all have to remember, this vitally important information...
Always aiming low, is always your best 😊 bet!" !
Even if you may miss", you will usually miss clean with no harm to the animal,whatsoever.
Hit," and it is usually a success!!! 😁😃👍
Luv ya guys!, greatjob once again, keep up the good 👍 work!
This is great info you guys are sharing. I'm a 20 yard and in guy. I have taken a deer a little farther (25 yds), but I know 20 yards is my true max. Shot angle is important to me (ground/tree stand). I too, shoot into the vital V a little tighter (and yes, I have hit too far forward before, but I have also hit to far back an those seem to be the longest track jobs). Knowing your bow and being honest of it's capabilities is probably underrated. Great Video.
I wish every hunter would have to see at least one video like this before being able to buy a license. We see so many hunters? that hit deer in the wrong places. Too many see the tv hunters taking high lung hits as common and the thing to do. They need to learn what and where the “ golden triangle “ is. And where to aim from elevated places. Taking long? distance shots ( IMO 35 yards max) shouldn’t be taken unless you’re trying to finish killing a wounded animal. Another issue that gets me so damn mad is the guy, not a hunter IMO, that starts shooting two weeks or even three weeks before opening day. That is a huge part of WHERE TO SHOOT A DEER as most of these people just find hair and shoot.
Lots of respect for you guys. Your videos have helped me become a better hunter. This video was very informative. Thanks THP
There seem to be a lot of videos on the market showing “kill shots” for example something like “30 kill shots in 30 seconds”. as an archery deer hunter in Minnesota what I’m most interested in is, yes, the point of impact, giving me a chance to test my understanding against the video, but more than that I value what happens after the shot. I realize it’s hard to both hunt and film But those first few seconds after the shot are drilled into my memory. I’m searching for indications that tell me something about the shot, good or bad. Lacking that kind of video follow up a detailed description Of the thoughts that run through the mind of the hunter as he tries to make order out of what just happened can be very helpful. Your video and others by the hunting public attempt to do just that. I commend you and like other comments I urge you to keep it up.
Love all these types of videos cause you have so much footage to show examples. Appreciate you guys
definitely one of the best videos detailing good shot placement, been hunting over thirty years and still learning from you guys!
Do they teach this is hunters education courses? If not , why??
I’m all for killing deer with the bow. It’s my passion. That said, I disagree on this subject.
Practice, practice, practice good techniques. When you start getting good shots on target, practice even more. I don’t often hear about unrecovered deer from those who who don’t skip practice.
Find the farthest distance you are comfortable taking a kill shot at then double that distance and practice there.
I will never aim for the heart. That’s is the best cut of meat on the dear! I think it is a terrible offense to waste the heart. You do not have to hit the heart. The double lung is more than adequate to kill any deer.
Heading out now, thanks for the peptalk. I didnt really need one, but im feeling extra sharp right now.
Good stuff dudes. Jolly good. Thank you. And i agree fully with your tactics.
Great information on deer anatomy. I feel like there is a lot of misinformation on bears though. "Shoot middle of the middle". I've killed 3 bears with a bow, all shot in the vital V and all heart shot. In my experiences their organs are not "farther back" as advertised. Can you shed any light?
I still second guess myself when I see the shot hit right where THP and Ranch Fairy tell me to hit. It’s just so much lower and farther forward than the generic “behind the shoulder” way of thinking. And yet the deer almost always has a triangular hole through its heart.
I have a decent bow, plenty of speed, so not sure why this works for me but after getting ducked on 28 times in a row when I started bow hunting, I started putting the pin 2" below the deer center vitals and I've drilled em every time since.
In my experience, the lungs are a priority to the heart. Behind the shoulder in the vital V will achieve the quickest kill.
A wide cutting broadhead in the V region with sufficient energy to create a pass-through is the ticket.
Your bow should shoot relatively flat out to 25 yards... I like the fact that you pre-ranged before hand. The constant ranging on deer that are clearly within range is very ameture for lack of better term.
Just know expandable broadheads are not preferred close to bone . Actually I don't prefer them at all
I always learn something from every episode. Thank you for making these videos 🙏
can you elaborate a little bit on. where to aim from shooting from an elevated position??? I feel like I have heard so many different things. Should you. aim low?
I’d love to hear how you guys get past buck fever! How you stay calm and execute the shot without losing focus
😂 if you watched their deer hunts from last season, you'd see they don't.
i shot a doe this year that appeared broadside but was very slightly turned. I aimed straight up the leg lower one third and hit two inches forward on a slightly quartering away. I give her a couple hours and went and got my dog. She was dead, but upon inspection, the arrow never entered the cavity.
Great video, very informative. I got my first bow, and shot a doe the other day. Unfortunately, I bumped it and four of us searching for hours never recovered the deer. Watching to make sure I make a better shot in the future!
simple, you always aim for the texas 11 point. gotta make that video!!
You can not tell me this dude is not a dweeb. “Im on a hunting podcast, shit, I need all my camo on!!” 🤣🤣
I think you need to get ben back on and talk about trees/plants/ etc. You did a podcast last year on it that was interesting and helpful.
Can you guys make a video on when to not eat the meat. Like after you back and and come in the next day. What’s yaks take on not keeping the meat. Thanks
Im a fan but this info should be classified as common sense for a person who hunts deer but its not. Modern hunters are just fanboy hunters
Since I've gotten a phase 4, i haven't had a deer react to bow sound. It's just so quiet
Very informative guys good job!
Really good info guys. I shot a buck last year, nice 8 point, 9 yards from the ground, hit slightly high but still center lungs. The arrow stopped half way through. He snapped 6 inches off the fletch end on a tree. Waited about 45 minutes before I started looking for blood, but I saw the arrow as he ran off, knew it was a good hit. Followed blood for about 100 yards, then backed out. He ran 450 yards before I lost blood. Had a dog come in and couldn't find him. Looked for 3 days and never recovered him. I decided right then I needed to step up my arrow set up and my shot placement. Thanks guys for the videos! Great work! Ps, ended up with a doe 2 weeks later, same spot.
Can I still shoot tight to the shoulder if I’m not shooting heavy arrows
I've never had a deer "jump the string".
I shoot Hoyt, I don't shoot heavy arrows, I use the factory arrows (Goldtips) and strip the vains off cut them down to the right draw length on the shelf and use short vains of my choice. I use a 125 grain mechanical ( rocket )broadheads which is a small diameter. I will use silencers and stabilizers.
My goal is too have a quiet bow, and decent speed and I know where to hit my target. It's never failed me. I set my daughter's bow up the same way and she shoots a 50 lbs Hoyt and gets full pass throughs. Silent and deadly...
The biggest thing that’s helped me is forcing myself not to pick up the bow right away. Let my heart rate slow down, and then going through my shot process slowly and pulling though the shot.
Nice. The only comment I would add is that the aiming point for bear is vastly different. I remember several years ago, the new "game face" of the Block came out. Anatomically speaking the aiming point for a walking bear's heart was way off the mark. I wondered who the designer was, and if they ever got any flack from real life hunters.
What's you opinion on bear?
Such good content. I cant wait for this season. Thanks guys
I learned just how low you can hit a deer during the 2022 season. Using my 350 legend sighted in at 100yrds. I had a buck 148yrds away standing in a bedding area locked down on a doe. I knew the bullet would drop but I had no idea how much. Aiming at the shoulder with a perfect broadside shot I squeezed the trigger. Gun fires and the deer jumps out from the bedding into the open field. Sitting there thinking why on earth this deer isn't running I quickly considered a follow-up shot. Reaching for the bolt to put another round in the chamber I watch my first ever split brow tine 8 point drop on the spot. Walking up to the deer I find the entry hole 3 inches up from the bottom of the deer. While field dressing the deer I found the bottom point of the heart was blown out and the bullet remained in the chest cavity. I learned a lot that night and will definitely remember to factor in bullet drop more as well as energy loss on longer shots.
This hunting story is much longer than what I wrote and is one I'll be telling till the end of time.
ABSOLUTELY WHAT I'VE BEEN LOOKING FOR!! GREAT SUBJECT
my fear is hitting shoulder bone...any thoughts?
First you guys are awesome! Keep the videos coming. The crew is what makes it… alright my question is… what kind of 3D decoy do you recommend? Is there a brand or model that you think is the best? If the vital area is focused on the corner of the foam insert, do you paint an area in lower corner? How do you go about setting up your 3D decoy? Thank you for your time.
2 years ago my daughter shot a nice 10 pt through the heart. It ran 40 yards and we watched it pile up, but there was almost no blood trail. Last year, I was filming a guy and he shot a buck through the heart, almost cutting the heart in half. It walked a few yards, then trotted off, dying about 100 yards away. That deer didn’t bleed much, either, and the track job was actually a little tricky. Yes, a heart shot is lethal, but I’ll always go for double lungs.
That was waaaay low at 7:49. No way that was double lung. Bad shot. If you had not hit the heart it would have been single lung, gone! You needed to aim 6” higher to center punch, double lung, right over the heart.
it literally smoked the heart do you need glasses