Windows 11 vs Ubuntu vs Fedora 39 vs Arch Linux - Speed Test!

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  • @ernon69
    @ernon69 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +535

    Please pay more attention to GB and GiB, plus I like to see the real number, assuming your storage is 512GB I made the true calculation in GB:
    Fedora - 7.7 GB
    Arch - 45 GB
    Ubuntu - 49.2 GB
    Windows - 72 GB

    • @draftofspasiba2
      @draftofspasiba2 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Fr

    • @CA-JA
      @CA-JA 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Is arch using GiB or GB ?

    • @LordHonkInc
      @LordHonkInc 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

      @@CA-JA4:10 it shows GiB

    • @Batwam0
      @Batwam0 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +37

      I was quite surprised Ubuntu and Arch could take this much space. That didn’t look right 😮

    • @Mauzy0x00
      @Mauzy0x00 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

      All of these tests with endeavor are taken with a grain of salt

  • @foolmeonce-tc3ei
    @foolmeonce-tc3ei หลายเดือนก่อน +91

    Edge opens faster on Windows 11 because it was running in the background already.

  • @azenyr
    @azenyr 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +289

    Note that Edge on Windows 11 is always preloaded in the background at all times. You can disable this, but its enabled by default which means its still on your ram even if you don't use it

    • @aladdin8623
      @aladdin8623 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +25

      Not only ram but it occupies vram like some other apps in windows. This results in less free vram for games.

    • @aladdin8623
      @aladdin8623 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +16

      Especially ngreedia gpu owners may not like to have even less vram :)

    • @astronemir
      @astronemir 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      I mean we can also optimize the shit out of our Linux kernels never mind the desktop environment and distro. I think it makes sense to test vanilla like this. Was really informative

    • @arshkhanlm3086
      @arshkhanlm3086 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

      @@aladdin8623 NVIDIA GeForce more like NVIDIA GeNocide (They are building a supercomputer for Israel)

    • @EquaTechnologies
      @EquaTechnologies 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Teams too, it makes your fan race, like really.

  • @notuxnobux
    @notuxnobux 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +155

    The reason things like kdenlive loaded faster on arch linux is because it ran kde plasma. The qt and other libraries are already loaded as they are used by other processes

    • @chickenbobbobba
      @chickenbobbobba 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

      thats a solid point, itd be very interesting to see a comparison between windows, and a distro like fedora with different DEs / WMs (eg gnome, kde, xfce and / or lxde, and maybe i3 / sway)

    • @SloppyPuppy
      @SloppyPuppy 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Makes sense, integrated tool chains.

  • @danielhalachev4714
    @danielhalachev4714 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +77

    The Python results are not surprising, because on Windows, Python can't use the fork() system call so they have to make an entirely new process for parallel computing.

    • @overlord1995
      @overlord1995 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

      That's a really interesting explanation, thanks. I remember for a uni class I had to create my own shell on Linux, implement some of my own commands (the coolest one was my simplified version of Neofetch), so I had to make a forking function to allow me to run my own shell
      Although of course, my shell was written in C

    • @opposite342
      @opposite342 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

      ​@@overlord1995I had to do a similar thing. Actually looking back it was pretty interesting although I probably was frustrated at the time of implementing it.

  • @goldenmatrix
    @goldenmatrix 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +353

    Just one thing, 435 Gib are equal to 467 Gb so windows is last 😢

    • @piman13_71
      @piman13_71 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +22

      I really don't get why windows continues to use GB when everything else seemingly uses ... idk which there called like we keep representing Gib as GB and that gets so confusing

    • @LaugeHeiberg
      @LaugeHeiberg 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +44

      ​@@piman13_71It's metric vs binary
      Funny how metric is the one that makes less sense

    • @piman13_71
      @piman13_71 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@LaugeHeiberg Ya but honestly what bothers me most is why we don't just pick Binary and go with it. OMG some idiot who didn't know now thinks he has more storage! THAT'S IT! nothing else changes because windows is the only one who uses the messed up version

    • @uuu12343
      @uuu12343 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      Goddamn it, Gibi vs Giga strikes again

    • @darkiceywolf2953
      @darkiceywolf2953 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      Well, no, there's gigabit, and there is gigabyte those are two different mesurments infact isps will usually advertise there speed in gigabit not gigabyte.

  • @ricardog.s2505
    @ricardog.s2505 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +37

    If I'm completely honest as a Linux user of two years, the differences aren't that high right now between distros and Windows, but when I started using it there was a clear advantage for Windows in most things while Linux was behind or close behind, but right now this isn't the case and that speaks really good for Linux devs and distro maintainers

    • @bobdouglass8010
      @bobdouglass8010 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      I have been exclusively on kde and macos for a couple years now. when I use windows i'm shocked at how clumsy the experience is, like system-wide freezes while explorer decides whether or not a network mount is viable

    • @demoonk420
      @demoonk420 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      still bad support nvidia, flickering and other.

    • @kishirisu1268
      @kishirisu1268 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      So you finally have workimg language switcher on linux after 20 years of development? I dont ask about multimonitor support, next 30 yeras and job done LOL

    • @Azertyyys
      @Azertyyys 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@bobdouglass8010so shocking. Rare ass freezes when you do a super specific task, that linux is better at because its an ancient ass OS that still relies on terminal heavily.

    • @MF2_ETaube
      @MF2_ETaube 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      It's just crazy how good is GNU/linux.

  • @HerrDoktorWeberMD
    @HerrDoktorWeberMD 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +128

    windows losing in the read/write and other CPU tests can probably be chalked up to a couple things... mainly, linux dev hasn't focused on graphics cards quite as long as windows has, but also, windows is probably tying up a good chunk of the CPU and RAM bandwidth to compile and transmit every moment of your existence to Microsoft so they can sell it to advertisers

    • @looncraz
      @looncraz 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      The main slow down is undoubtedly from Windows Defender, every action is being scanned and monitored by an anti-virus that none of the Linux distros have.

    • @nahidahmed9153
      @nahidahmed9153 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@looncraz i am sure thats the reason

    • @edelzocker8169
      @edelzocker8169 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@looncraz clamAV is installed on my system and realtime protection is on but it always says 0% cpu...

    • @Codyslx
      @Codyslx 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Good ole tin foil hat innit.

    • @kyledupont7711
      @kyledupont7711 22 วันที่ผ่านมา

      You will get better fps in linux because you cant figure out how to get your monitor to display at native resolution

  • @kuretaxyz
    @kuretaxyz 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +121

    Great comparison, thanks for the video. However, if you are going to call EndeavorOS Arch Linux, you might as well call Ubuntu Debian ☺

    • @fireninja8250
      @fireninja8250 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      I'm on Debian switching from Ubuntu. They're basically the same so I don't get your point.

    • @AzureUnlinked
      @AzureUnlinked 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Ubuntu is bloated as heck and uses snap, meaning dependencies dont get shared amongst packages. I guess thats about it​@@fireninja8250

    • @da_pwo
      @da_pwo 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@fireninja8250 same with endeavouros and arch

    • @bibekshah3701
      @bibekshah3701 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      ​@@fireninja8250, most cases, yes. This video is a comparison of minor differences. It's entirely different. Also, KDE and gnome is a whole different thing, back when I used either of those, KDE was like giga slow.

    • @OkarinHououinKyouma
      @OkarinHououinKyouma 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      If you enable the Ubuntu repo on Debian, you are basically using Ubuntu.

  • @frankhuurman3955
    @frankhuurman3955 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

    always love comparison videos like this, thanks :)
    tiny suggestion for next time: when you call out the time of one of the OS-es, stick that time in the screen of that OS. This way we can also visually compare them which is easier than running back the video to hear your voice. (and stop + remove the timer once the last OS has done its thing)

  • @AQDuck
    @AQDuck 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +83

    I know that Endeavour is about as close to Arch you can get without being vanilla Arch, but it's a bit misleading to call it "Arch" in a benchmarking video, especially when you check things like boot speed, storage, etc.
    Also I think going with Plasma for Endeavour nerfed it a bit extra, I think either going with Endeavour default (XFCE) or GNOME would be more fair.
    Not saying you shouldn't have used Endeavour, just call it "Endeavour".

    • @KajuTheRudeMonke
      @KajuTheRudeMonke 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      I agree

    • @iandieb
      @iandieb 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      Yeah, it's just like saying you are testing Debian while actually using Ubuntu.

    • @Kashim_o
      @Kashim_o 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Endeavouros default is no longer XFCE, they switched to KDE a few months ago

    • @MisterZig0
      @MisterZig0 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ​@@Kashim_oI did not know that, my live/installer USB is still using xfce.

    • @OkarinHououinKyouma
      @OkarinHououinKyouma 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Lmao going with Plasma gave advantage to KDE

  • @technofi2554
    @technofi2554 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +48

    Please do this test again after kernel 6.9 is released later this year!
    Would be cool to see an intel vs AMD laptop comparison as well as desktop etc

  • @user-dz3ph7dl4m
    @user-dz3ph7dl4m 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +96

    Surprising battery result - great to see

    • @bkmnst
      @bkmnst 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

      yeah, really surprising, considering hw acceleration in chromium is not a strong point of linux

    • @absor2820
      @absor2820 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@bkmnst Yes, I'm curious if it's a local video playback test with VLC and hardware acceleration on

    • @chickenbobbobba
      @chickenbobbobba 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@bkmnst iirc there is some work happening to make hw acceleration work nicely on linux, so really hoping to see when that comes out

    • @AndRei-yc3ti
      @AndRei-yc3ti 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@chickenbobbobba acceleration already works in firefox apparently

    • @chickenbobbobba
      @chickenbobbobba 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@AndRei-yc3ti neat

  • @bvd_vlvd
    @bvd_vlvd 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    Ubuntu did surprisingly well. Fedora and Arch are both running a lot newer kernel versions so I thought Fedora would beat Ubuntu in virtually every task since you didn't go for 23.10, but Ubuntu ended up getting a lot of Ws against Fedora!

  • @medisshehi9335
    @medisshehi9335 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +51

    Honestly, have been playing on linux for 2 years now and the situation is really improving, some games are implementing the linux compatible EAC (example For Honor) so all it's missing is some open source nvidia drivers

    • @ShrootBuck
      @ShrootBuck 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      Even those are getting pretty good, didn't the nvk driver outperform official nvidia drivers on some stuff?

    • @Timely-ud4rm
      @Timely-ud4rm 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

      Those open-source NVIDIA drivers do exist! They've recently added support for Vulkan, and while there are still features missing, the project is making significant progress.

    • @ProtossOP
      @ProtossOP 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      @@ShrootBuckiirc in some games it did by a few percent, nothing crazy though. Too bad initial support is for 16/20 series and higher, my poor 1060 is crying.

    • @medisshehi9335
      @medisshehi9335 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@Timely-ud4rm I remember that we got them but are still at 60% performance on avarage, but at this point I can see them getting close to proprietary in 1-2 years

    • @justinchristy9047
      @justinchristy9047 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      IS "GREEN LUMA " supported on linux? Also can we mod games in linux like skyrim, gta v etc?

  • @oscarcharliezulu
    @oscarcharliezulu 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Is there a way to test for the most reliable or ‘available’ in terms of reboots needed, bsod’s or any type of outage, updates, etc?

  • @xbeast7585
    @xbeast7585 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Thank You So Much I Appreciate Your Efforts So Much ❤

  • @limeisgaming
    @limeisgaming 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    What File systems and partitioning schemes did you use on the Linux installations ?

  • @adonnen
    @adonnen 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +65

    Would be interesting (and useful) to see the benchmarks in wsl.

    • @theworldoffun8997
      @theworldoffun8997 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      wsl is a virtual machine, dude. Results are gonna be lower

    • @adonnen
      @adonnen 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +16

      @@theworldoffun8997 Obviously. But how much lower? How much worse than bare-metal linux? Can it beat native Windows for some of the poorer-optimized workloads? These are really Practical issues.
      Honestly, just seeing a short or addendum would be nice, though I know it's not likely he sees this.

    • @BestSpatula
      @BestSpatula 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@theworldoffun8997 wsl is not a virtual machine, wsl2 is.

    • @emeukal7683
      @emeukal7683 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@adonnenit's alot lower. But on any quadcore laptop u can use any terminal application just fine on windows. Or learn powershell and use remmina for ssh.

    • @BattousaiHBr
      @BattousaiHBr 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@BestSpatula wsl2 superseded wsl1, when people say "wsl" they are referring to wsl2.

  • @Bob-qz5yj
    @Bob-qz5yj 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    what settings did you use for these? Both windows and fedora come with profiles which can heavily skew the results depending on what you're aiming for

  • @alexsalois5372
    @alexsalois5372 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    I really appreciate that you used proper benchmarking software like phoronix test suite! I would appreciate more charts with numbers that have more significant digits. IE 1.244K vs 1.2K. The charts you generated did look nicer! Keep it up!

  • @premnathd
    @premnathd 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I have been using Fedora for a month on my laptop. I am suprised at the battery performance of my laptop. When I close the lid the battery use to drain in a few hours but on Fedora, it doesn't drain and wakes up quickly on opening the lid again. Even when opening after 2 days, the battery has not dropped much. Similar to what I have seen on my M1 Macbook Air. Is this the same with other linux distros as well or only with Fedora ?

  • @miguelborges7913
    @miguelborges7913 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +20

    GiB not the same as GB

  • @aerohk
    @aerohk 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    great test, thanks for the work

  • @agoniavr
    @agoniavr 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Not directly related to the video but I noticed you have a iMac behind you, may I ask what you use it for? Is it for proprietary software reason or something else?
    I'm curious because I also love Linux but I always have to keep either a Windows or MacOS pc around to use some software that I really really need like Lightroom, the VSTs I use to record guitar in Reaper which also work as standalone amps on these os and so on.

  • @blueSurfer
    @blueSurfer 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    I moved from win 10 -> win 11 -> Ubuntu -> fedora in a span of one week.Fedora is working smoothly for now.I did face some issues initially but it is fine now

  • @SifatUllah-12
    @SifatUllah-12 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    about the file copying test, I have a computer running Linux, and my laptop on Windows 11. And copying anything to / from my pendrive is faster than Windows, BUT, WITH ONE QUIRK. Idk why but in Linux, whenever I finish copying files to my pendrive, it takes some time when I try to eject it. But in Windows, as soon as the transfer is finished, I can immediately eject it.
    So ultimately, In Linux, its transfer time + eject time. Where in Windows, its only the transfer time.
    If anyone has any logical explanation for this please clarify.

    • @iijj22gg
      @iijj22gg 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      The Linux kernel makes your file available at it's new location faster by moving most of the data and updating the filesystem, while in the background it's still moving the rest of the data (like from the USB to your hard drive). Why? Developer obsession. If you didn't want to detach the drive right away, you wouldn't notice a thing.

    • @SifatUllah-12
      @SifatUllah-12 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @iijj22gg What is "Developer Obsession"?
      And it's this a bit misleading? Like it shows the copying is complete, but if you try to eject it, is says "Do not remove, writing data to usb". Why not just show the real speed in the first place?
      I'm guessing the answer is "developer obsession", so, I'd be greatful if you clarify this term also.

    • @iijj22gg
      @iijj22gg 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@SifatUllah-12 Basically the devs who worked on this were obsessed with storage management, to the point where people have made debatable decisions. Although to further clarify, an entirely different set of developers worked on the GUI app you used to drag and drop the file, and I've only seen one or two file managers with a lingering visual indicating the kernel is still cleaning up in the background.

  • @saffanalvy
    @saffanalvy 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Awesome video, thanks.

  • @RavensLolz
    @RavensLolz 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +24

    I installed Fedora 39 a week back. After setting up thr nvidia drivers, it is butter smooth, uses very less ram (2gb) as compared to windows 11 microwin (4gb).

    • @chickenbobbobba
      @chickenbobbobba 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      im on nobara linux (fedora based) and it uses 1.3gb idle, which is sooo nice on my laptop with 8gb ram. windows took 4.5gb on the OEM install

    • @MF2_ETaube
      @MF2_ETaube 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      On a 8gb laptop, using win11 is painful an extreme debloat still uses more gb of ram, compared to just a standart fresh install of GNU

    • @Zerahu
      @Zerahu หลายเดือนก่อน

      went to actual arch linux on my laptop recently and with hyprland loaded it idles at 600mb of ram. Insane difference from windows 😂

    • @MF2_ETaube
      @MF2_ETaube หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@Zerahu I just recently installed fedora on my laptop also did some light debloating, because half of the stuff in fedora really isn't useful, like calendar, software center, virtual machine, ibus extensions. And now my laptop uses a whooping 1gb of Ram, compared to always 2,5gb on a heavy debloat of windows. Even with firefox, just 2gb

    • @Zerahu
      @Zerahu หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@MF2_ETaube nice man gotta love to hear it. Same with my system now, during workload with around 6-10 browser tabs open my system is chilling around 2-3G of ram which is so nice. Windows was maxxing out those 8gbs I got all the time. I used ubuntu for a couple months first though which also ran quite alright but arch is simply on something else ahhah

  • @n3kowarrior
    @n3kowarrior 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    4:12 have you cleaned old pacman packages on Arch based system?

    • @Zerahu
      @Zerahu หลายเดือนก่อน

      He was wrong here as there is a big difference between GiB and Gb in terms of storage

  • @rumplin
    @rumplin 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Hint: When you copy stuff on windows and you click on "Fewer details" it will transfer faster, because it's not doing the caluclation for speed anymore.

  • @massformationpsychosis7681
    @massformationpsychosis7681 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +28

    Nice..
    Also, these bots need to stop lmao

    • @matthewbass8152
      @matthewbass8152 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      What’s ur worst job lol

    • @TechHut
      @TechHut  3 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

      Right, like at least make sense lol

  • @marioandresheviacavieres1923
    @marioandresheviacavieres1923 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    great report

  • @cracklingsoda
    @cracklingsoda 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great video!🎉🎉🎉

  • @kelton5020
    @kelton5020 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Do you run these tests more than one to get average

  • @Agasis-42
    @Agasis-42 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    What is that usb with the removable nvme called?

  • @jadrankodolovcak627
    @jadrankodolovcak627 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Nice tube, would like to see some video encoding results in test like that. Especially if you will do N100 benchmarks.

  • @FlorinArjocu
    @FlorinArjocu 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    What versions of the kernel did the 3 Linux machines have? If it is a new CPU, battery life should be better on new kernels.

  • @oimateusaqui
    @oimateusaqui 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    I have a tablet (nabu) that runs Windows 11 and Ubuntu 23.10 (both aarch64), so this video came in very handy 😁

  • @rc2276
    @rc2276 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Well done. All this extensive testing would have taken you ages.

  • @mitch5222
    @mitch5222 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Anyone has any idea how to use linux when everybody is using windows in my company and i cannot use linux due to sharing same git repository. Problem is file permission and some naming in branches (capitalized naming) and windows users can have problems due to that. I tried mounting ntfs git drive but was a mess too.

  • @BUDA20
    @BUDA20 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    on EndeavourOS installing using BTRFS automatically selects zstd disk compression and it will be the smaller install from that point forward (yes, zstd is great)

  • @Pieteros21
    @Pieteros21 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    mine fedora already has kernel 6.7.4 for few days ... i wonder when mesa 24 ?

  • @CyberTechSRB
    @CyberTechSRB 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    I use Fedora KDE variant and works nice for me + its installed on kingston sata SSD.

  • @DaNiePred
    @DaNiePred 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Would be interesting to see which filesystems the different Linuxes were installed to and if baremetal or LVM is used. I am sure this makes a difference in the test results.

  • @Hansjohannessen
    @Hansjohannessen 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Could you give a pros and cons with twingate vs wireguard?

  • @Mereo110
    @Mereo110 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    What was the testing methodology? Did you repeat the tests at least 3 times for each OS?

    • @TechHut
      @TechHut  3 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      Yes, I repeated tests for all the synthetic benchmarking. Also repeated the side by sides just to make sure there wasn't any abnormalities from the initial recording. I ran the geekbench tests three times and phoronix test suite does three runs and gives us the average. Computer had about 10 minutes of idle time between each benchmark.

  • @wandererstraining
    @wandererstraining 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Any ideas about why that render was nearly twice as fast on Fedora compared to Ubuntu?

  • @Dobaspl
    @Dobaspl 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    Copying in windows and linux is not the same. In Linux, the fact that the system shows copying completed does not mean that the process is finished. Even in the case of SSD, Linux still needs a few seconds in the background to save the cache. So unless you changed your configuration before the test, this one is not reliable.

    • @nipunamarasekara607
      @nipunamarasekara607 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      I had the same experience. When windows says copying the file is done, it's done and device can be removed right away. But in linux systems it's still running in background for some reason. Until it properly finished user cannot safely eject the device.

    • @Dobaspl
      @Dobaspl 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      @@nipunamarasekara607 It's even worse when we talk about moving files. The system erases files from the source before providing a write to the target. If the connection is interrupted during this time, the files are lost (excluding recovery tools from the source). And if you turn off the cache, copying takes forever. But the cache is not the problem, Windows also uses it, the problem is that the GUI does not know that the copying is still in progress, but it should be.

    • @altosack
      @altosack 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@dreaper5813- I last used Windows in 2000 before I quit that job (they were still using NT, not 2000). Now, if a company makes it a requirement to use Windows, (barely metaphorical!) red flags and blaring sirens keep me on the right path.

    • @Dobaspl
      @Dobaspl 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      @@dreaper5813 Which doesn't change the facts. The comparison of the copying process presented in the video makes absolutely no sense. In typical home use, Linux does not copy files any faster or better than Windows.

    • @ParasAryan
      @ParasAryan หลายเดือนก่อน

      @dreaper5813 skill issue

  • @MannyGraal
    @MannyGraal 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Hey Techhut, it's good to know you are still making videos. 👍Hope everything is going well

    • @TechHut
      @TechHut  3 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      It's been busy! Content should pick up. Just graduated university.

    • @MannyGraal
      @MannyGraal 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@TechHut Graduation is huge, congrats! You must be feeling so relieved from that. Looking forward to the future videos. I'm currently excited to test out the pop OS cosmic desktop when it comes out to beta.

  • @isoEH
    @isoEH 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Appreciated!

  • @JohnUntivero
    @JohnUntivero 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Interested to see these benchmarks, but with wsl2 included

  • @user-kv5he9np2y
    @user-kv5he9np2y 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    For gaming who are the best? OS or distros

  • @stanleyb5974
    @stanleyb5974 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great comparison. Wish you also do a side by side comparison with Linux Mint.

  • @ExponentialWorkload
    @ExponentialWorkload 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    For arch, you can get a way lower space footprint if you install a more minimal initial packageset during the setup; e.g. just installing GNOME + base stuff, or plasma + base stuff - a base plasma system can take up less than 6GB in many cases. I have a feeling that using endeavouros may have also affected boot times significantly

  • @alx8439
    @alx8439 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Another important measurement that was missed is how much RAM was occupied by system processes

  • @npgoalkeeper
    @npgoalkeeper 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Fedora battery life should improve even more next release when they transition from PPD to tuneD, and it might be getting x86 micro architecture levels (x64 v1/v2/v3) later down the line, similar to SuSE, for slightly better performance

  • @AswinC2
    @AswinC2 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I wonder if using endeavour xfce would make any difference 🤷‍♂

  • @chopin4525
    @chopin4525 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    Why using Crafty instead of some other modern open source engine like Stokfish? The project has been abandoned a long time ago and very likely the code does not scale well on modern CPU or even older ones considering how much time has passed.

    • @TechHut
      @TechHut  3 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

      I'll note this for future benchmarking videos. Thank you.

    • @chopin4525
      @chopin4525 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@TechHut No problem, asked out of curiosity! 👍

  • @rutra8002
    @rutra8002 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    why u use endevaouros instead of arch?

  • @supernovice8350
    @supernovice8350 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    May I know the device specs? At least I wanna know the battery capacity.

  • @AndersHass
    @AndersHass 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    It will take longer but you could consider calculating the storage of preinstalled programs to get a better picture of the size of the OS.

  • @ashishkushwaha6430
    @ashishkushwaha6430 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Finally after a long time .
    This video i always want ❤❤❤❤🎉🎉

  • @OldDogZeroTricks
    @OldDogZeroTricks 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    What smartphone is that?

  • @thekaczynsky88
    @thekaczynsky88 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    Was core isolation disabled on win11? It lowers performace a lot

    • @timothygibney159
      @timothygibney159 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Yep and memory protection made Linux look faster

  • @NickOfTime99
    @NickOfTime99 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    One test that would be interesting to see but would take a lot of time: power off laptop, wait one week, turn it back on and see how long it takes to install updates from the OS.

    • @iijj22gg
      @iijj22gg 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Windows might not have any updates at all (but Windows updates are annoying anyway), Ubuntu might have a few things, idk about Fedora. Arch would update like half the system lol.

    • @kruknimbalt2787
      @kruknimbalt2787 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@iijj22gg Well, it's Arch's feature, so this comparison may be not a good idea to do

  • @ruelsmith
    @ruelsmith 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Interesting. I have Windows 11 and Fedora 39 in a dual boot setup, and Fedora certainly seems a bit snappier. I know that something is causing my 500 Mb internet to slow to a crawl in Windows 11, that didn't happen in Windows 10, and I have yet to pin it down (lots of users got a similar experience). Fedora has no such issue. As a matter of fact, somehow it gets a blistering 630 Mb/sec.

    • @no-prophet
      @no-prophet 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      I use Arch (btw) and I get like 5 Tb/sec when it's cold outside, every other Friday I get even 10 Tb/sec, but only if my dog had already eaten. I've heard that a lot of other users get the similar experience even if they don't have dogs. Weird, isn't it?

    • @ruelsmith
      @ruelsmith 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @no-prophet I tried Arch (btw), and it gave my dog diarrhea, and he caught a case of Parvo, too, so I deleted that unholy satanic rectal exam distro and installed a more pleasant experience. Now my dog is feeling much better and actually behaves well. Wierd, huh?

    • @NotSeggsySage
      @NotSeggsySage 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      I think you mean Mbps/MBps or something. ( If this was a joke i didn't get it, don't blame me).

    • @ruelsmith
      @ruelsmith 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@NotSeggsySage correct. Sorry. Had multiple things going at a time. Brain fart...

  • @MT-nn2ii
    @MT-nn2ii 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I also noticed this when I wanted to choose my Linux distribution to replace Windows. I found the Fedora distribution particularly heavy and slow, I'm not sure why.
    So, "finally", i switched to Debian 12 + Gnome. It's not too bad for the moment.

  • @morfyum
    @morfyum 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    File transfer results not real. On Linux systems need "sync" command after copy/move because Kernel does not finished in background.

  • @nichohells
    @nichohells 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    But, why compare the LTS version of Ubuntu instead of just Mantic Minotaur vs Fedora 39?

  • @pabloqp7929
    @pabloqp7929 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I other criteria than speed would make for a far more genuine benchmark

  • @andreiguzovski7774
    @andreiguzovski7774 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    My main concern was always battery life on laptop being worse and quirks with Nvidia GPU swapping. How does Linux handle this nowadays? By test it seems superior, but I would appreciate any comments on that.

    • @giedmich
      @giedmich 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      playing 10h 720p@30 fps video is NOT a battery test... 9 out of 10 times windows laptop battery will be much better, don't listen to these nonsense "benchmarks" about battery, strangely all these TH-cam videos about linux battery life are super strange and has nothing to do with real world

  • @Xxgamer1783xX
    @Xxgamer1783xX 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I did a fresh install of EndeavourOS a few days ago on a 25GB partition (I chose GNOME over KDE, changed nothing else regarding packages) and mounted /home from another partition. Installed nothing since then, did one update of packages and my root partition right now sits at ~7,3 of 25 GB. So you can get away with way less space then the mentioned 45GB (converted from the free space in GiB).

  • @mahdinhabib9699
    @mahdinhabib9699 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Can you compare between CutefishOS vs Deepin ?

  • @Holzf43ller
    @Holzf43ller 15 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I think booting up on windows is pretty fast fresh after installation, especially with just a few things installed. when you have it work ready, with office, maybe discord steam and things the booting takes a lot longer. this is my experience. i switched from windows to manjaro and arch btw after that and it made a huge impact. especially on bare arch. i used the same programs as in windows and my booting time went from almost 2min 30s to windows desktop to around 50 seconds. with the exception that when i am on the desktop in arch everything is loaded. an i could start right away. whereas in windows i have to wait a few minutes for it to be fully usable.

  • @chorba
    @chorba 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Surprising results for Ubuntu overall, I expected it to go last of the Linux distros

  • @lePirateMan
    @lePirateMan 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I use arch (btw) with cinnamon on my laptop and i get into the gui in 20 seconds, this includes loging in to the CLI, launching the gui and logging into the gui
    Cpu: Intel i5-1145G7 (8) @ 4.400GHz

  • @AQDuck
    @AQDuck 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Genuinely surprised that Windows lost the battery war, that's like the one thing I expected Windows to dominate on (even though Linux is more efficient, battery power is infamously bad)

    • @mfb4730
      @mfb4730 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      In General battery life seems to be much better on Linux than a few years ago.
      But It really depends on the device. Drivers are a big factor in that.
      I tried it myself on two devices, my Asus Zenbook gets even more battery life in Arch than Windows. The MSI Laptop I tried gets much less battery life than in Windows. Both Laptops were configured with TLP.

  • @mamdouh-Tawadros
    @mamdouh-Tawadros 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thank you.

  • @ZerosTest
    @ZerosTest หลายเดือนก่อน

    Why Windows has OpenGL and DirectX but Linus had only OpenGL? Aren't supposed to be there a vulkan too? ( Which performance better on linux that OpenGL )

  • @livemadseason
    @livemadseason 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Oh yes I do notice - baseon my laptop:
    - estimated battery life watching video - win - 1h30, Linux- 6h (I may have had some driver issues with windows as I compare it to your results, but my laptop has nvidia 😀)
    - Updates used to restore all the bloat that I had carefully disabled and removed on windows - not happening on Linux
    - If I want to quickly check something on a laptop I have not used in a month it does not give me forced updates and 1h wait until I see desktop on Linux 😀
    - If I want to install something I do not need to browse internet for hours to find the small tool that does it.

  • @olnnn
    @olnnn 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Graphics performance is going to be somewhat dependent on whether it's amd, intel or nvidia, and what application it is.

  • @onlyspaceghost
    @onlyspaceghost หลายเดือนก่อน

    would be great to run the arch test in gnome so we can rule out slight performance differences between kde and gnome

  • @bhargavjitbhuyan9394
    @bhargavjitbhuyan9394 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I have horrible battery life and personal hotspot network speed slowing down issues.
    Please help. (I use a laptop).

    • @Maxume
      @Maxume 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      If you're using Linux, install and run TLP. There's a GUI version that's a little easier to understand than the command line version. Depending on how much of a performance hit you are willing to take, you can extend the battery life dramatically. I can double my laptop's battery life without a very noticeable performance hit but if need be, that time can be tripled or even quadrupled, with varying levels of performance impact.

    • @bhargavjitbhuyan9394
      @bhargavjitbhuyan9394 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@Maxume it causes very serious performance loss. Just too many dropped frames in a 1080p60 yt video. I am using auto cpufreq. I will try tlp again.

    • @Spartan2.
      @Spartan2. 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Same problem with archlinux, than i switched to hyprland compositor

    • @Maxume
      @Maxume 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@bhargavjitbhuyan9394 I don't know what to tell you. You are never going to have better battery life if you aren't willing to sacrifice some performance. So you'll have to decide in the end what's more important but compromises will have to be made. I tried auto cpufreq and while it certainly didn't appear to affect performance, it didn't improve battery life by even 15minutes either.

    • @bhargavjitbhuyan9394
      @bhargavjitbhuyan9394 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Maxume I am talking about absolute performance dips. My laptop can easily play 4k60 yt videos in windows with the battery saver turned on. And on linux (my distro is endeavourOS, this issue doesn't occur in ubuntu but I don't like the ubuntu desktop environment called gnome and I want a dual boot system and also, I don't like snaps. I prefer kde) the videos have too many dropped frames. Why??

  • @matthiasbendewald1803
    @matthiasbendewald1803 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great comparison, I love those videos, thank you! Also quite subjective, only some praising of Linux in there.
    What is missing is a good summary. All the numbers were quite over the place, my brain starts melting to compile this all to one coherent picture. I love the phoronix guys, they always put a geometric mean graph/table at the end, which will take all results and compile one mathematically fair summary out of it.
    Also gaming is very complex. There is so much going on, every game will behave different on the systems, so using one benchmark is not enough to make any conclusion that linux lags behind. I think that it still does, but not as clear as it seemed in this benchmark.

  • @Lojcs0
    @Lojcs0 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    You should try the graphics test with unigine dx11 running under wine. That was significantly faster than native opengl when I tried it (~10%)

  • @HamidKarzai
    @HamidKarzai 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    In my opinion Endeavor is a pretty bad experience, I rate it worse than Mankato. I just don't like the default behaviors at all and it's also bloated feeling. Regular Arch with the stuff I need, configured to my liking, is miles better than anything else

  • @Kerdam78
    @Kerdam78 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I swap between windows 11 and Nobara (Fedora) both installed in separate SSD's. Every chance I have I am in Linux unless I absolutely need to do something in windows. Its laggier. slower to respond. Animations don't feel as fluid. Of course both are on same hardware and 240Hz screen. I consistently get errors or common windows issues doing things. I try to spend my time in Linux.

  • @SloppyPuppy
    @SloppyPuppy 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Love the video, it's great that your making linux related content, and in a simple format educational to less knowledgeable people, however I feel like you are missing the point with some of these, linux being just the kernel means that its so modular with what you can attach to it or remove from it as the whole OS, for example linux + gnu base which is common is running on all these distributions I believe, however not all use systemd, that can affect performance, another thing to note is that the file transfer test is mostly influenced by the file system used, endevour os by default uses btrfs, even though ext4 has faster transfer rates, endevour won out here, I don't know how you configured each.
    In conclusion I'd recommend talking about the specific parts of each system that might influence it, because linux in reality is like lego, it's programmer's/tinker's minecraft 2, you can create whatever you imagine, and you can hack it to do whatever you imagine.
    The video is newb friendly but I like to go into shallow detail just so the person listening has something to grip on to learn further.

  • @mitcoes
    @mitcoes 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Recently there was a German article that found that most Windows games are now faster with Linux with proton, than natively.
    Also Endeavor OS, as any arch have different kernels, ZEN, LTS, and RT, and other distros too I suggest you to use these variants in benchmarks to show which are better for each task.
    Last but not least, copy ext4 to ext4, btrfs to btrfs, xfs to xfs, zfs to zfs, ntfs to ntfs and extfat to extfat, copy/write are available on Linux, and with WSL on Windows and you can also add cross copying to show how the OSs perform.
    I dual boot MS WOS and Endeauvor OS, sometimes I do not use MS WOS for months, and I have to update it, and each time is slower the update, compared to any Linux, and also it feels slower it seems the mouse latency is less on Linux and the browser (now almost all chromium inside) is faster.

    • @derekmin6592
      @derekmin6592 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Can you tell me the address of this article? Thanks!

    • @mitcoes
      @mitcoes 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@derekmin6592 COMPUTERBASEBETRIEBSSYSTEMBERICHTE
      Linux-Gaming: Mit welcher Distribution laufen Windows-Games am besten? if links are censored

  • @stoicswe
    @stoicswe 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Most of the time, when switching from Windows to Ubuntu, there tends to be a lot of compatibility issues for me whenever I try to do a Linux sprint for a time. There's just not enough stability for imo for my use case typically. In terms of performance, I have noticed that generally Ubuntu, openSUSE, Fedora...etc, those tend to run faster overall on my machine (and take up fewer resources in general). Its just every time I try to setup drivers, specific games I want to play, and more (like my Index for instance) there is just always some compatibility issue with any Linux flavor I have tried that makes the OS a no-go for me (no matter how much tinkering I try to do to fix it). Love Linux when I've used it...but sadly Linux does not love me back lol. Glad to see though in general that Valve has been doing an excellent job getting Linux compatibility off the ground (and slowly growing market share there).

    • @MellowTheHusky
      @MellowTheHusky 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Well that depends on the graphics card you have.
      If u have an nvidia u need to make sure to install the proprietary drivers.
      If u have amd u will be fine and don't have to do anything unless u have problems.. (wich most likely will never happen unless u didn't do updates for years)
      When it comes to gaming u can almost get any game running as long as it doesn't have easy anti-cheat. And yes some games WILL get u to your limit in order to work (but that's part of the fun (and the learning curve) I guess)

  • @MrFrog222
    @MrFrog222 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Many of the tests like storage, battery and general performance can't really be measured on Endeavour OS to then say that its that way on Arch too because Arch is much less bloated.

  • @thelanavishnuorchestra
    @thelanavishnuorchestra 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I don't have comparable machines to test on, but I can say that Windows performance in the wild is vastly different than a test system. I support hundreds of users and it certainly gives me a jaded perspective on the performance of Windows. Decent systems, generally, but they often run slow. I tune them up to make them perform better, but they're not great. Now, I have a Windows computer I use sometimes, for games or to run the LogMeIn cliet that they've failed to provide for Linux for a decade. Mostly RDPing into it from my Linux main computer. And, it's an older PC with a 6th Gen CPU. It seems to run quite well for it's age. Of course, I haven't put Windows 11 on it, so that probably has some bearing. And it's my computer, so conforming to my standards and not loaded with lots of background bloat.
    Non-tech people using their Windows PCs are the biggest performance hit is what I'm saying.

  • @Johnscompany
    @Johnscompany 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    i use kubuntu for music production, and the rt low latency kernel on it, and the performance on lowest latency its a win for me.

  • @robertheinrich2994
    @robertheinrich2994 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I switched from win 11 to linux mint during christmas.
    i7 7700HQ, 1070gtx in an HP omen laptop.
    but I changed SSD and ram (from 512gb ssd and 16gb ram to 4tb ssd and 64gb ram).
    so I cannot truly compare the two. I had a period of a bit over a month where I ran windows with 64gb ram, it worked better, and switching to linux + faster SSD just ramped up the speed again.
    essentially, what I can say to everyone who wants to try: just do it, it isn't hard.

  • @noober09
    @noober09 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    link to USB C pen drive please?

  • @simozonelayer
    @simozonelayer 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I switched from OSX and Windows to Linux as my work daily driver. There was a pretty noticeable increase in the speed applications would load and running especially using i3WM with very little bells and whistles.
    Unfortunately, Linux isn't perfect as a work daily driver due to the amount of Windows/OSX products I have to use like Active Directory and Horos, but it's still nice to get away from Windows and OSX for a while.

    • @WololoWololo2
      @WololoWololo2 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Use Garuda Linux in latest version and keep updating it, Linux improves a lot with every updates

  • @KennerMarqueti
    @KennerMarqueti 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Impressed by fedora small size. Ultimately I think most people choose os based on convenience. I had SO many problems with fedora in the short time I tried it I just couldn't keep using it and went back to my windows + Ubuntu routine. When I tried manjaro it was great for a while, until I let the machine offline for a few months and got stuck in dependency hell. Arch I only used for a uni project, performance was great on a very bad laptop, but instalation was too cumbersome and, against, convenience. So yeah, I don't think Ubuntu is perfect and honestly I have a lot of problems/disagreements with it, same goes for windows, but they are the simplest to live with for my use. It's really hard to try and bring people to Linux if they can't first, do their job, and second, keep the machine running for a long time.

  • @riseabove3082
    @riseabove3082 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Copy a file over the network from a Linux Server (any Linux desktop distro will do) over SMB and Windows will beat them ALL hands down. Only way you can get Linux to come close is to pre-add the network drive during boot-up basically outside of the GUI. For whatever reason, Windows beats it hands down when copying over the network.

    • @kruknimbalt2787
      @kruknimbalt2787 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I don't think that this is the issue for everyday desktop for most of the users

  • @timothygibney159
    @timothygibney159 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    You need to disable memory protection in windows 11 to make it equal. It’s not fair as Linux doesn’t have this security feature