Saab 9-3 Trim Levels Explained
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Thanks for the tutorial in Saabs. PS the sound of your car really grows on a person. I'm 69 and wouldn't actually drive something that made all that racket. But, it does make a statement going down the highway. It says don't F with me.
Haha, thank you Bryan :)
9-3 trims sure are confusing, thanks for clarifying but GM made it even more complex then that. The 5th letter on your VIN represents the trim level. And Saab reported 4 trim levels in US models: B = Linear, D = Arc, F = Vector and H = Aero. For example, 5th letter of my VIN is "F" for vector, and I still don't really know what makes it different from an Arc. Maybe the Arc trim for a Wagon was simply called the vector. I have no clue.
Didn't know that info about the VIN; I'll have to confirm on mine ;)
The vector is more sporty. For example it has the aero seats so they got better side hold then arc, but they came not with the aero colors.
Their only one coloured mostly.
The arc has black steering wheel controls and wood trim. 5he vector has silver trim on the steering wheel and around the gearshift er and doors as well.
I also heard from someone the vector should have another suspension but this is one thing I am not sure about.
@@54player54 yes. Vector had lower and stiffer suspension, I have a 2003
I just bought myself a Saab 9-3 1.8T and your videos are a nice godsend for me right now. Thank you for all the detailed Vids
Happy to help! Thanks
Great info for the up and coming Saab enthusiasts!
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I'm new to the world of Saab and have appreciated your channel. Lots of cool information.
Welcome aboard!
Thanks for what you do for the Saab community brother, currently working on my 04’ 93 Arc passed down from my mom, cant wait to get it back on the road.
thanks! Have fun with the project
Absolutely love my 03 Vector 6spd. Only one of 22 with graphite green (288). Bless your channel and the time you put into the videos. You've come a long ways, props 🤙
thanks Cameron!
I got a graphite green saab 93 vector from 03 but it’s 5 speed automatic
I was literally looking at getting a Saab 9-3 and stumbled upon this video and realized it just came out a couple hours ago😂😂😂 But thanks for the great info👍
lol nice! plenty of other saab content on my channel if you're interested ;)
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They made 2.0 aeros from 2008, thats the one I have. Also the turbo4 came with a bit more powerful opel engine that made 220hp stock.
Dammit, the arc with Turbo x wheels looks so good in the distance!
thanks man! and are you in the states? In the US, all aeros were V6's from 06-09
@@AutoAutopsy I am from Europe, more specifically from Latvia. You are right, also in Europe they made a very few 2.0 aeros, you cant even buy them anymore. Maybe thats why they never got to US.
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Thats weird.. Here in Finland Vector is the mid tier model. I had a 2.0t with 175hp and it was a vector with half leather interior etc.
well, in the USA they for B207R even outside of Aero as the base engine outside of Linear. And before facelift, they did not have the 1.8t (still 2liter, but only 150hp)
Yeah, like i said, different in Europe from US
Could you do a segment including the 2007 9-3 anniversary edition? You mentioned it very briefly but I love mine and would love more said about it.
yeah, i'd like to find one to review so could have the physical car to review!
I have a 2007 Anniversary Convertible, Jet Black Metallic , 2 tone SAAB embossed seats and a bunch of extras
it's easy in Europe too (or maybe not). We had Linear (15" wheels, even manual climate control, not body color of front spoiler, textile seats... mostly 2.2diesel and 1.8t - 2liter still), Arc - some more equipment including leather-ish seats mostly as 2.2TiD and 2.0t; Vector - 16 and 17" wheels available, sport seats as option, Xenons as option, small lip in color of the body, parking sensors, etc, mostly as 2.0t and 1.9TiD later. Then we go Aero, B207R 2.0T 210hp, since very beginning = also 2003. 6speed optional later only available, no diesel as Aero in pre-facelift, back wing spoiler, front bigger lip, side skirts, sport seats, etc. Later available also as 2.8T Aero too, besides 2.0T.
Problem of this is, you could even buy a Linear and order 90% of whatever equipment available into that, basically. Sooo... At the end of the day, some less generic = customized orders cars, can look like something they're not.
Then we got facelift, which now brought option of diesel Aero, a Z19DTR 1.9TTiD car, that however could be ordered also as a Vector or a Linear, even though it's not common. Also there are cars that have B207R Aero engine and are not Aeros, because, well, you could order just about anything. Just not XWD into Diesel or outside of Aero.
thanks for the rundown!
Yeah, it’s complicated. I have a 2008 model 2.0T Linear with 18” wheels, leather seats, parking sensors and a lot more. It has the B207R and is lowered. So it’s not easy to see the differences between the trims.
The licensplate on your TurboX is currently on a red Skoda in sweden :)
yep i know!
Your on it fella 👍 I have a 2011 93 ttid4 160bhp in the estate version, or as you cousin's across the pond call, the "sport wagon". Just had a set of aero wheels refurbed and it looks good. I know I'm a bit late to this particular video, but "better late than never" as we say.
Yep! We call them sport combis
I love Saabs
me too!
my dad wants to give me his 2007 9-3 aero and i can’t wait to to own it, i’ve been spending the last few weeks researching info abt this car and i’m ecstatic
Wow that’s awesome. Take care of it and I’m sure you’ll love it!!
Great breakdown of the various Saab levels; everything in a nutshell...PRECISE & SUCCENCT!
Happy to help! :)
They actually got rid of the 4 cyl submodel trims in 2006. Starting 2006 there was only the 2.0T and the Aero (v6)
That's what I thought; wasn't sure on the exact year of the switch. Thanks for clarifying!
@0.45: Exactly. "Thanks for the turbo and engine management technology. END OF LINE."
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Hi! I really liked this video! The final value of the unused last saab 9-3 was purchased for 465.000 SEK which is a USD value of 47000 approximately. Sadly the price was over my budget but I am happy with my 2004 9-3 aero 5-speed manual :)
it was! cool to see it sell, but wish it could have gone for more
@@AutoAutopsy I understand. But it was still 1500 dollars more than the sellers' estimations at least. Do you also have the problem that the shift knob can get loose sometimes?
I enjoy watching your videos and helpful tips
thanks!
Super helpful video! The naming is very confusing. I was wondering if you were going to mention my funky Turbo4 badging of the 2.0T towards the end - glad you did!
Haha 👍🏼😁
Funny. There’s actually a Linear Business without a turbo, the 1.8! Which I’m picking up tomorrow
Great! I know euro market had the 1.8 - so this video is mainly intended for the US market. Good luck with your new car!
I've used to be mk3 mondeo owner (European version of Ford Fusion) but now when i got saab things are a little bit different. Its kinda unique to own a car made by jet fighter's company which dosent exist any more. Plus its a quick, good looking, decent kinda Ronin like car!
yep!
Thanks for this tbh, a lot of people do not include trim information when talking about defunct or used cars that people like to mod. Since I am in the market, I want to know the trim types so I can make moves to buying the best car for the best build for me!
Happy to help!
Very good video! Can you make one for 9-5 as well? Thanks!
might have to!
Sorry dude. Even if you want the TurboX to be special, the XWD system is identical in all 9-3s that have it. The only difference is wether you had eLSD or not. The parts are all the same. There are some differences due to different mounting points on the B284 and the B207, but the parts themselves are identical, just look it up in the EPC. In 2008, only the B284 had XWD, but from 2009 and onwards it was an option with almost all engines and trims.
The different trim levels are a lot more similar in the US than the rest of the world. For example, the Linear in all other markets had really crappy seats with cloth and vinyl. The Arc had the same seats but in leather. The Vector had a body kit similar to the Aero, but never as aggresive, and some years, the top end engine was reserved for the Aero. There's also a 2006 only B284E, mostly sold in the US (very rare though), badging says 2.8T and it had 230hp. Compare with the ng9-5 that was sold in the US with the A28 V6, but not as Aero. In the rest of the world, the V6 was only sold as the Aero6.
From 2009, the 9-3 Aero could be had with the B207R, B207L BioPower, Z19DTR TTiD or the B284R. 2010 was the last model year the B284 was offered.
2011, the badging changed to be in line with the ng9-5 which had the Turbo4, Turbo4 BioPower, Turbo6, TiD and TTiD (no Turbo6 on the 9-3 though).
2012 was the last facelift of the ng9-3 called Griffin with the front bumper changed slightly to look more like the ng9-5. This is the same front bumper used on the NEVS 9-3. It also contained smaller changes to the interior, mostly the dashboard had a different color.
You're talking about Europe in here which completely negates what you're saying because I said this is for US ONLY!! Also, plenty of differences between the TX and other 9-3's (and yes, eLSD is a pretty significant difference). Watch here: th-cam.com/video/Er4eptbajhY/w-d-xo.html
Did they do away with the 2.0t toward the end? I've never gotten a clear answer on that.
I have a 2010 9-3, and I've never seen another one optioned like mine. For the most part, it's what would have previously been called a Linear. No sunroof, base stereo, no heated seats, no bluetooth, hidden turn down style exhaust, no nothing extra. Even most Linears seem to have at least some of that stuff. But it has is the mid-level 2.0T. All others I've seen this stripped have the lower spec 2.0t.
Depends on your location. If you're in the US, Saab did away with Arc/Linear names before 2010
SAAB got in trouble over the vector name. They had to change it to avoid getting sued
Thank you so much for this video! I have loved Saab's since I drove my friends 900 back in 87. I never thought I could afford one so I've never looked for one. The last two years I have seen them at where I could afford but was unsure of which model to get. I love the convertibles, and chatted with a guy that collects them. I was told NOT to get one that was later than 2005 because they were now 'GM' and not made as well, break down quicker, made cheaper, etc. Especially the 9-7X. Which really bummed me out because I'd love an SUV. Any input??
id say that was some pretty bad advice! GM took full ownership of saab in 2000. The NG 9-3's have a lot of GM influence, but are still great cars
@@AutoAutopsy I feel bad didn't think you'd responded, and just now saw it. I still haven't gotten one, didn't want to invest until I knew for sure which I wanted cause it'll be my 'last car'. I absolutely am torn between the 9-7X and convertible. I am thinking since I have always wanted a convertible, I will go with that. Especially how hot and humid it gets in Nebraska. lol There are a few for sale right now in my range, but still not sure which to get, and if the prices are good. Is there any way you can help with choosing? Are you on Instagram by any chance? If so, could I add you and show you what I am choosing between? In no rush (obviously) but would like to get one sooner than later at this point.
Thank you man for this video 👍🏼
I prefer pre facelift dash myself, nicer digital screen hvac, seperate sid, and the fitted nav looks much higher quality, they also dropped fibre optics from later dash, the later dash was cost cutting
I’d disagree but thanks for the feedback!
Great summary, I think it was very much needed for those who are looking to get a 9-3.
One thing worth mentioning about the infotainment is that the 03-06 didn't have GM's corporate dashboard, but instead a system developed in-house by Saab with fiber optics technology, truly born from jets: fiber optics is supposedly better at receiving a cleaner radio signal, and has a longer range. It also greatly reduces signal interference. It sucks big time, however, if the optic loop fails. It is also extremely difficult to install an aftermarket head unit. But why would you do that? I love the looks of that interior, way more saab-like than the 07+.
Overall, the 07+ interior is fresher and more modern, but the 40+ dash buttons of the older style was very funky, quite psychedelic at night.
Not many people realize this but there are so many cool features that the 9-3 has, and for nerds like me they are so worth mentioning in order to understand the mindset that went behind these cars. People that say "it's a rebadged Malibu" simply don't know the facts, or don't care to know. I was so amazed when I realized you could do an engine compression test through the Tech II. I wish I had never sold my Aero Combi.
Anyhow, I hope I didn't bore you with the mini technical observations.
yes, great point. Very difficult, if not impossible, to do something aftermarket for the head unit on 03-06
Just want to say that the 2009 Aero has the B284R
Depends on if it's FWD or XWD.
@@AutoAutopsy I don't believe that's true...at least I haven't seen anything that states that. I believe all aeros in 2009 had the B284R, even the convertibles.: www.newcartestdrive.com/reviews/2009-saab-9-3/. 2nd source: www.mycarspecs.com/car/2009-saab-9-3-cabriolet-aero
the turbo x and aero xwd is more or less the same. Just looks a bit different. You could get A Turbo-X package for the Aero XWD so they are the same.
That’s hardly the truth. See here: th-cam.com/video/Er4eptbajhY/w-d-xo.html
Hey dude I know you prolly don’t check comments on videos this old but I’m seriously considering a 2007 9-3 2.0T with 87k miles. I’ve seen your video on common problems and now I’m not so sure. They’re asking $2,900, which is my whole budget, and the gas gauge is messing up but other than that it’s just aesthetic issues. Any advice would be great, from anyone! Still on the fence. Thank you
that's a good price with that mileage! don't be stressed by that video, it's just common issues. they are generally reliable cars!
Auto Autopsy hey thanks for the reply! It’s a bit out of budget actually so a friend and I are gonna get an old civic and build it up. Appreciate the advice. I’d love to own a 9-3 one day. Your Turbo X is beautiful. Cool to see a channel centered around Saab.
Awesome video.. 2007 on the display of the dashboard thats pure GM for you....
i like it tbh
I don’t know if Europe got Arc, pretty sure we just had Linear, Vector, and Areo. Could be wrong.
Always enjoy your "Saab" stories; strangely though, I always carry on my day more enlightened.
Have you ever reviewed or featured the 2009 Saab 9-5 2.3L Turbo Griffin?
I have come accross a few Sid units for sale, I think the SID2 is the one I want. Post states it fits up to 2005.
I'm in the "planning stage" on installing a new HiRes Sony audio system... That being said, is it possible to install the SID2 in my 2009 9-5 Turbo griffin. I would really like to incorporate that device along with the new HiRes stereo I'm planning to install.
Also, is it true that's it's a must to warm up your car, with no reving, and more importantly cridical in colder weather?
Thanks! I’m not much of an expert on 9-5’s and I haven’t reviewed the Griffin. I would advise against “hard acceleration” while the engine is cold, but it’s not necessary to let the car fully warm up first, especially where I live
right on....with all the differences..geat job
Thanks!
Dream Saab: 2009 Saab 9-3 Aero XWD Manual Sedan
Good car for sure
we have a Twin turbo diesel 08 facelift 9-3 sportscombi, it's an aero and has 185hp stock and has dual exhaust (we have a maptun stage 1) (Z19DTR)
nice!
As for my 2004 93 ARC 2 door Conv - I find it extremely frustrating that the driver's side 'interior door mirror trim' has been discontinued. I literally need this piece because the bottom half it missing mine. No idea why they would discontinue a part like that. The passenger side is available, btw.
i'm almost certain you could find one secondhand on ebay or a parts car very easily!
Isn't the vector the mid tier trim?
in sweden its not vector/aero. we had linear, vector and aero. but we didnt have the arc. wierd.
strange! lol
@@AutoAutopsy also. the linear had 149. vector 185 and aero 210 hp.
I have an '06 SC and according to the window sticker it's just a "2.0T" no other trim designation
Yep, that’s around when they ditched linear/arc to my knowledge
What wheels and size do you have on the turbo X now? Will they fit a bone stock face lift 9-3?
yes, 19"
MAJOR IMPORTANT QUESTION !!! To me at least lol… can you swap the facelift parts over to a 2003 93t liner? I really want to put the facelift handles and lights on my 03’
Doors can be swapped, but the electronics are different to my knowledge. The front headlights require new bumper, fenders, hood, radiator support, modification to the headlight buckets, etc. It’s been done though
I know all about trim levels and the only ones that matter are '07-09 Aero Convertible and the Viggen Convertible. Just wish people would sell them before they put 100k miles on them or have had multiple owners.
sounds a big ignorant lmao
@@AutoAutopsy should've put an I kid at the end. Seriously though the Convertible versions actually have better weight distributions than the sedans and due to to the extra rigidity and safety added from being convertibles performed better in safety tests and were the highest safety rated vehicles ever until recently (at least from what I remember it's been a while since I read up on it). Still if I didn't have a thing for drop tops I would have no problem with a Viggen or Aero sedan. My first Saab was a 9-3 2.0t sedan.
Хороший познователиный обзор. Рад что во всем мире не равнодушные к Сааб лиди болеют этим вирусом
we love Saabs over here in the US!
so what is my 2007 9-3 2.0T ? its automatic
I've got a vector anniversary edition convertible in silver 1.9tid 175hp tuned by hirshe
great
I came across saabs and fell in love, havnt gotten one yet cant decide what model to get what would you recommend for modifying on a lower end budget
I’d get a NG 9-3 (shown here) since they probably have the best aftermarket support
I found a first gen 9-3 aero (206hp) 5-door in good condition and great price for my teenage budget, do I go for it as my first car?
automatic tho!
the first gen's didn't have aero's. in europe, the Viggen was called the aero, but it had the 2,3, not the 2.0 and produced more power (230-250 I believe). if its been well maintained and you're willing to do the repairs yourself, I say go for it
Hey do you know any caster adjusting kit for a 03-11 Saab 9-3? I can’t manage to find one
I do not! I'd ask in a FB group!
Very useful 👌
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probably got rid of the V6 due to fuel efficiency, gas prices jumped up ridiculously and they were trying to find ways to sell more cars. truck sales and other gas hogs sales were down, makes since. its why i wont buy v6 saab
gas would be the only reason i think. but the v6 is a superior engine for performance!
More V6 engine creates major torque steering problems. The i4 turbo is a superior choice for this front wheel drive car.
We've got a 2006 SAAB 9-3 SPORTS WAGON vector which comes with the sports seats and from factory a 1.9tid diesel engine in the uk
nice!
What time is it
I have a 2011 9-3 turbo4!!!
I have a question tho! My saab came with the basic radio (opposite of yours). Is yours touchscreen? Does it have Bluetooth capability for music & phone? (mine only offers phone - must use plug in Bluetooth receiver & go to empty radio channel to listen to music off phone). If yours is Bluetooth capable for music & phone, is it possible to upgrade my radio to it?
It's this unit, which is touchscreen: th-cam.com/video/tGdV9rHtqyM/w-d-xo.html
You can get bluetooth adapters for either units, but you can also just put something aftermarket in
Mine was specced quite odd, I have the 2007 60th anniversarry editoin, so it has the dark grey sporty seats, 17 inch wheels, b207R, fog lights, etc but don't have the aero body and have wood trim, seems like 9-3 purgatory
but frankly I feel grateful, I got the updated interior while still keeping the classic lines, I prefer it over the facelift
yeah, it's an anniversary so that makes sense!
is saab still exist???
no new ones are still made!
7:47 my parents have exactly the same car! Same colour, same wheels and the V6.
nice!
I’ve got a 2003 9-3OG
nice! assuming it's a vert, haha
hello i have a saab 9-3 2.0t 2007 linear. Do you know what turbo it has
Linears weren’t made in 2007. If it’s a true linear, it’s a Garrett. Otherwise, it’s a TD04.
You really don't know a SAAB 9-3 2nd generation linear, arc, aero, x till you live in a state that the temperature drops to - 30°F and 3ft if snow. Saab computers hate the cold. Warning lights everywhere. My 05 9-3. Driver door won't open from the inside unless its above 30°F. Got to roll down the window and open from the outside.
:/
The 2012 9-3 had the a20nft
ht (The ng 9-5 engine) And griffin was the 2012 MY
correct! minor detail I missed
I'm looking to get a Saab 9-3 convertible. Does anyone have suggestions for any Texas-based (Austin, hopefully) enthusiast groups for these cars?
yes, i know there's a texas group on facebook. i'd also recommend joining some nationwide ones like saab owners use, saabs of america, etc
What about the 93 biofuel models I think they change the bigger turbo as well
Not sold in America though
Vector vs. Aero.Aero has sport lower suspension.ECU works more aggresively.209 HP ready to action(pure arabic blood insead 209 lazy horses to pull heavy weagon)faster reaction on acceleration pedal and always ready to action,if you know what I mean...
thanks for sharing!
Cool. Thank you.
:)
Hey, i think your secretary is removing posts. He's also tagging 9-3 content in 9-5 searches. You should have a sit-down with him.
I was looking at the wrong video, my bad
What? All of this is done by myself anyways. nothing has been removed to my knowledge
@@AutoAutopsy I clicked on the wrong video. My mistake. You have 2 thumbnails that look alike. Thank you for the Saab content.
Dont forget the 9-3 carlsson
Not sold in America, therefore not relevant in this video 🙃
@@AutoAutopsy oh yes true true
Hello, I have this question that I have done research, but have found nothing. In your 2008 turbo x you don't have the torque limitor in the first gears. Do you know, when in the 2009 model year they brought e-lsd to the aero xwd trim level, did they also bring the stronger gearbox without the torque limitor to that model year?
To witch engine?
@@blackbirdsweswe8367 2.8t V6 280hp
Nope, another identifying and unique factor of the TX is no torque limiter in 1st
@@AutoAutopsy Thanks!
Those ricer rims look absurd I can’t believe you took off the stock wheels for those
Boomer
Auto Autopsy fair enough you got me there
Lol
My 2010 XWD 2.0 has dual exhaust outlet. The single outlet would not fit with the XWD
Also L4 had non e/LSD
V6 had e/LSD
Yeah, i kinda alluded to that! thanks for clarifying
my 5th vin letter is an A
What about my 1999 Saab 9-3 se
Completely different so this video wouldn’t apply. I’m not super knowledgeable on the older Saab’s but I assume that’s the basic/entry level trim!
@@AutoAutopsy oh ok thanks tho
those rims looks so sexy on the x
Thanks!
Hey there! I have an interesting question that might be in your wheelhouse and pertains to this video I think. The fifth character in my VIN is a "D" indicating it is a 9-3 ARC. The badge on the back has a 2.0"t" (lowercase). This makes me so confused. Is it the 175hp indicated by the "t" or the 210hp indicated by the ARC trim? The million dollar question huh?!?! P.S I don't have a million dollars, so if yo answer this, unfortunately, I won't be making you a TH-cam millionaire...LMAO
lol, well i would look at other indicators as well - such as the actual power output by checking which turbo it has, the body kit (side skirts/bumper lip) color, etc
@@AutoAutopsy SO, after much research, I have determined that the car is a 2.0T Arc for sure. multiple thing confirm it. What i think happened is the person that owned it before me debagged the car and it was rebadged incorrectly. The badges were not in the stock location and they were also reversed in location. Dead giveaway. Also I an 1/8 mile pull and plugged the numbers into a HP calculator and it showed 210 HP. Plus like you said, all the other details about the car say its an Arc. So in the end, taking the badges off my car gained me 35 HP. Now that is a cheap performance upgrade if I've ever heard of one!
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You mentioned the 9-4X it's the same as Cadillac SRX Only better
How about the 9-7X AERO basically a TBSS only better
yep!
pls...put the real TurboX wheel on the REAL TurboX car immediately!
It is a mistake you do not make in Sweden!
Nope. Deal with it lol
this guy is hot
Сааб 2007 более удачный на мой вкус. Ручки дверные и молдинг по кругу. После 2008 упростили и удешевили.
some believe 07 is the best year - old exterior with new interior. it all comes down to personal preference!
Why talk so fast very stressed
slow the video down then ;)
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