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I'm definitely biased since I own a few Saabs but like any other vehicle on the road issues come up with age and mileage. Maintenance is key and so are the parts used!
As an MOT test center technician in Sweden, whose dad worked for SAAB for 40 years I can give these tips as well. Other SAAB 9-3 9-5 problems too look for: Rust: Wheel wells(all saabs), Top mounts in the engine bay(9-3), rear rub frame(9-3), Outer beam under the doors often covered witch plastic linings(9-3, 9-5), Bracket mounting points for the tail hook(all saabs), Brake pipe by the gas tank(9-5). Body: Rear outer control arm bushings(9-3 and 9-5), The front sub frame rear bushings(9-5). All cars have their problems, even Volvo's with it's failing front control arm bushings, crank case ventilation and it's cracking refuel pipe. BMW has it's rusting brake lines and Mercedes just rust.... But all of this is just normal car problems. Saab cars are fricking amazing! You will get so much car for your money if you can get a descent one.
Well can u tell me what if I get white heavy smoke coming from under the car,it smokes bad then stops and don't come.back on until a hour later? It doesn't do all the time maybe 3 times a week what could that be?
Can anyone help please?. I have a 2005 saab 9-3 2.0t petrol automatic. B207 it mixes oil in the coolant bottle and spits it out with pressure. I have changed the head gasket, put a new thermostat in, new coolant pressure sensor, checked the oil cooler that seemed fine. What can my problem be? Could it be the gearbox oil mixing into coolant instead of engine oil?
I have a 2005 Aero convertible which I have had for six years - never let me down ! Has had new clutch and timing chains - 4 cylinder 2.0 petrol re mapped to 280Bhp No rust on it as have it waxoyled every other year Car has black diamond discs and pads , Bilstein shocks , Maptune exhaust Common problem is drain hole blocking in scuttle and water soaks carpet on passenger side U.k. Have had seatbelt issue - cost £150 to recondition Agree interior plastic is atrocious - had dash trim done in vinyl wrap and door pulls Key to these cars is finding an independent Saab specialist who knows what they are doing ! Everything available virtually from Sweden / had new roof fitted - needed two cables / came to U.K. in two days ! Lots of secondhand parts about Main reason I bought mine was 1 safety 9.3 convertible immensely strong 2 style - good looking 4 seater convertible 3 Individual not a BMW or Audi clone Wouldn’t buy a car that didn’t have comprehensive service history - service schedules quoted 18 months way to long - mine done every six months Parts are surprisingly cheap ! Swedish Govt underwrote parts production Plugs must be NGK ! Fully synthetic oil Change coolant every 36k Brake fluid every 24 k I change transmission fluid every 4 years Join owners club ! lots of information and knowledge Use genuine parts They are immensely strong 💪 just look at photos on line - I won’t drive anything else !
Good shout on the discs, i was looking for some slotted and drilled rotors since I've always thought they looked great. you have any images of how they look after the black coating wears off?
@@hass316 I've got a stock 2l aero (minus exhaust) if you were to drive while having fun every now and then around town you'll float between 20-25mpg. i get about 26-28mpg from how i drive. if you're super light on the throttle on the motorway, you'll get around 40 all this according to the SID. I haven't actually manually calculated the real mpg to confirm
-You need the battery cover. The battery cover, compartment and that duct leading into it will run cool air over it to help prolong the battery. -That overflow tank and the two hoses should be replaced every 5yrs since they sit right over the nuclear reactor. -The plastic vacuum line assembly behind the motor also cracks eventually, but not a bad job to replace. The hesitation and surge are likely due to vacuum leaks, or the purge valve on the rear of the intake. -The transmission issues are caused by not changing the fluid every 30k. Which is an odd issue, but a real requirement on the aisin warner transmission. Old fluid causes bad performance, and even failure to downshift to first gear at a stoplight. I had the fluid changed out twice over a few month period, then reset the battery and it shifted far better after the relearn period. -Check fuse 14, I believe, which is for the SID. Might be that simple. -The tensioner problem is actually pretty specific. One 2.0's you need to change both timing and balance chains around 160k miles, on the 2.8 it will typically last to 300k+, with the exception of the 2006 which had a slightly inferior design and might fail around 250k. With proper oil changes, the V6 really does not break chains, per our local saab repair shop that has been around for 50yrs. -Enthusiast forums, T8Suite, WIS and EPC are your friends if you own a saab. The power from Saab engines more than makes up for the little issues.
Front subframe rusting out is a huge issue on the newer generation - especially facelift models 2008 and newer. The ECU getting too hot in the 2.0T models. I would put those up top as #1 and 2.
for the battery, get the lid and intake. Get some auto insulation that has the silver face. Put a sheet in the battery cover and then surround the battery sides with this insulation also. I have had the same battery for three years. I also installed the metal tank and all silicone hoses
Bingo! One of the first things I did on my Aero was take apart the battery box and wrap it with DEI heat wrap. Never replaced a battery yet. Also wrap the wire harness and get shrouds for the coolant tank lines.
Do you leave battery cover off too? Would it makes sense to leave engine cover off and the metal plate covering coils on the 2.0 turbo on 2005 9-3 Aero. Seems they just hold heat in
I have owned Saabs for more years than I care to remember... I currently have 2 Aeros, one the same as the car here & one of the last face lifted gens.... I have never come across any of these "common problems" stated here.... have I just been lucky for all these years/cars or what?! I live in the UK & the only issue I have had is the water cooled inlet manifold on a TTiD Aero cracked... as for the rest of the so called common issues shown here.... nope, none! I find myself smiling at these videos : )..... nice wagon anyway!
Well since the average person buying these are buying them used cause they’re cheap they will be more likely to see these issues. I’d definitely chalk you up to being lucky. But common issues doesn’t necessarily mean you WILL have them. Thanks
Agree - think lots that come on used market are neglected or not serviced properly by a specialist ? Key to these cars is proper servicing and oil changes ! Neglect results in wear to timing chains and tensioner
Great video mate...I have a 2008 9-3Tid and I suffer some of the problems you've recorded. But they're still a stonking motor and above all,....Beinging a father; safe!
For the record, I love your Saab. I had a 06 Saab 9-3 and I am a fan for life, but repairs and such are tough and expensive. Unfortunately, it's good if you do all of the maintenance, however, if you get a neglected car, good luck.
Tell me if you think I got a good deal, about an hour ago I just purchased a Saab 9-3tid vector sport, it’s an 09 plate, AUTO, sitting on 90k @80k - Full service inc All filters, glow plugs and oil changed. Also had battery and discs and pads replaced at the same time. 86k - Oil change/pil filter replaced New aletrnator fitted last year. Waterpump and timing belt replaced at around 75k miles
As a '08 9-3 2.0T aero estate owner it's nice to see this video. Still love it and it puts a smile on my face and others. It's practical enough with the kids. I have had very few of the issues you mention after 5.5 years and it has been very reliable. First real maintenance was this year with new springs/dampers and a new PCB for the key lock. The car has about 200k kms at this moment, so it has just been run in ;) I hope to get a nice convertible again like the sweet vector I had.
Thank you !! I put a lot of effort researching and typing up the bio to put the links. I unfortunately don’t have the Saab anymore though. So there will not be anymore Saab videos
I have 3 06 9 3 Sportcombi for these past 3 yrs all V6 aero and I dont have any the problem you described All 3 are So Cal cars so definitely no rust issues only problem I had was one of them has ICM3 problem
The 9-5 is another quality. Much better but it still have some Opel part which causes the problems. The starter and engine bushes are really common. An old 900. Is the best Saab ever. They don't have faults like the new one does. The answer to that is GM. Motors. Opel parts... But still a newer Saab is better than most other cars
The blower motor failing is a common prob too apparently. Dried leaves collect in the engine bay (at the top) and then the multch bungs up the motor. Goot vid, very informative as am just about to purchase one.
had to clean the TB in my 2004 9-5. It was nasty. I then drilled a small hole in the air intake so I could spray TB Cleaner occasionally. I insert a threaded screw to plug it up
Good informative info overall. i would be more specific with the engine your referring to. A newbie would think your referring to all 9-3's. b207 vs b284 different common issues. thanks
@@S0rr0w93 UK owner here as well... all 4 arches are mint on both Aero's. I didn't get any rust on the ones before, or the ones before that either... bizarre!
if you had the standard 4 cylinder 16 vall turbo engine you would never have this issue with the turbo and battery , as they said on the factory in us when they was into saab they said by them self " saab did know what they did when they keep the 4 cylinder engine " the car was much better when it was pure swedish , really one of the best car ever build in the world special the 900 and 9000 serie car
Loving this one thanks for sharing very information blessed love to all knowledge is power hopefully everyone pays attention keep up the good work 🙏🏿🙏🏿🙏🏿🇯🇲🇯🇲🇯🇲
I have the 2.8T manual transmission and the alternator is different than the automatic. So I had to get a local company to 3D print one because the could not find one. If esaabparts or Orio can’t find the parts get ready to pay through the nose asking someone to 3D print something for you or a rebuild.
Never had any fuel pump issues in any of my ng 9-3s (4) the 07 aero will throw a code occasionally for a fuel pressure regulator but gauge has worked my biggest issue I’ve been having is the f40 auto trans failing valve body due to lack of maintenance… fluid service is big on these car
❤️ our saab bought it for 900 dollars in 2014 with a 100k miles about to turn 200k this year. My 03 linear has most of these problems. Mine also had a water leak by the cabin air filter that killed the blower motor that would have totally been preventable by resealing the plastic filter retainer on the firewall. Also don't forget about the oil leaks on the b207 they are everywhere as the car ages.
2006-2008 2.0T B207 engine has problems with the intake valves. This is a very costly repair, I just completed this on my 2007. Saab requires you to purchase the cam locks to re-time the cam sprockets to the timing chain/crank sprocket, very dumb design as the camshafts are already keyed for sprockets, but there are no keyways on the sprockets themselves. Also, I had to repair 3 of the 4 door lock latches on mine, as they would not trigger the dome light. Radiator hose tee on the B207 engine, near the intake, those are prone to fail. Rear tail light lenses pop off of the tail light housing. I have never seen this happen on any other make or model. Seems like every other day someone has this problem on the Saab FB page(s). Gasket on the cabin air filter housing allows water to enter the cabin of the vehicle. Fuel tank straps have poor rust-resistant coatings on them. I'm sure there are a dozen more common problems. I can't recommend a Saab to anyone at this point.
I leased the first V6 Sport Combi Wagon (4th Saab) with all the whistles and bells in Florida right off the boat from Jville. Awesome looking car, but the v6 made the front end plow (too heavy) and the constant droning exhaust note drove me crazy. When the lease ran out I leased a Mazda CX 7 Turbo, which I liked a lot. Turned it in at lease end and bought my current 9-5 Wagon
Mine came with 3 keys. 2 standard keys and a valet key. Most common problem, engine turns but car doesn't start (disconnect the battery, wait 10 seconds, reconnect and try again). Another goodie, the slide out cup holder locks in and won't slide out anymore (pull the dashboard apart and release it from the inside). Gear box problem, contact Saab dealer (crankshaft position sensor is failing). Fuel level sensor, ahh yes. GM used a float that dissolves or wears out (empty the tank and drop the fuel tank and replace the float). Stability module reports a problem when humidity is high. I haven't found a cure for that beyond avoiding puddles. Saabs eat low beam headlight bulbs. I get about 3 - 5 months on a Sylvannia H7. The owner's manual specifies Mobile1 motor oil. All cars with shoulder strap belts have wind up springs. The springs usually last 5 to 20 years, but eventually a new belt windup spring is needed.
@@brobno9 yes that is right. It was in excellent condition with all the service records but I didnt purchase because of the miles on the odo. I will look for one with low miles. Saabs are becoming rare. Barely I can see one in the road.
@@boyasia5874 I see.... may I ask where you are? I am in the UK & there are plenty available. You must be abroad? On a footnote, never let mileage put you off a Saab. Change the oil regularly with fully synthetic & maintain properly... we have guys in my local Saab club in excess of 300k miles, still pulling like the day they rolled out of Trollhattan!
Somebody help , When stopped the car is making tickling noises , when accelerating it stopped making noise , when i press full the gas pedal the car after 2.5-3k rpms starts to shaking, I changed coil and spark plugs and still have the problem!!
If you have a convertible the hydraulic lift rams for the top will leak. Guaranteed. New ones are hideously expensive, but you can have them rebuilt much cheaper.
Bought one of these, compered to volvo the rost alot. I have rust the same location. And i have yet to see one without the rust. They are super common here live in Sweden
Good information to know. Thank you! I'm trying to find part number for back lift struts (2006 Saab 9-3 Combi Sport) any idea where i can search? I purchase once before and received the wrong ones. Thanks
Ok I have a 2k7 Fusion Blue Areo SportCombi. Can confirm the coolant reservoir issue, battery heat, coil packs (ya get faster at it each time). No fuel sensor issues or CIM issuess. But..... #6 fuel pump went in 3 weeks ago with as many years. Automatic transmission is a beast! 185k on it with 100k of it VTuner Stage 2 with Snow Performance Methanol Injection. Tortured actually and its still strong. It is a great car but you'll become a mechanic to keep it going. Super satisfaction when clowning in a Saab Wagon
Regarding the coolant expansion tank - that's as far as I know only an issue with the V6 engine. Regarding the battery - are you sure that the overheating/battery draining isn't due to missing the cover for the battery? It's supposed to be cooled via the venting tube.
Hi! Maybee Im lucky, but I found a really low mileage 2011 Saab 93 Sport Combi Linear, with only one previous owner( old lady), its been garage kept, so its really a pearl. No rust on any fenders, but underneath, the rust protection is deteriorate, so I have already a special guy who deals with older cars, and he will sandblaster it under completely, and then paint it with Zink paint, before he add more of the normal protection, the whole procedure takes minimum 4 days to do. its woth it due the car is almost like new. The automatic transmission oil, is due to be changed after 6 years or at 120 000km, this is very important. I hade 15 years ago a Saab 95 T 2.3, it was a great car, but I must say this 93 is more funny to drive, have just tuned it as step one, and increase the horse power from 150 to 200hk, so it runs great. I see you have a V6 engine. what year model is it? You are right the passenger spring are commonly cracked, not on my car(yet), but we will se, I would not be surprised, I have heard about this on the 93:s Thanks for the tip about the cup holder, not to use an open can, I always use a pet bottle with the cork on, but its really a good tip I have a 1.8T gasoline bio power, and ok its a low mileage car, so I have not experience any of your problems (yet), but personally, I stayed away from the V6 engines, due to high consumption. And the V6 engine is I think a GM product, which is also sitting in many Holding cars in Australia. Ok its more power in the V6, but if you tune the Saab 4 cylinder engines, you get a good kick out of them, with much lower gasoline consumption. I really love this car, and I will treat it lika a baby. Thanks also for the advice about the cam chain tension adjuster, I will keep my ears open. Thanks for a very informative video, its always good to listen on others experience made.
Saab 93 aero v6. 6 years owned only 1 battery, coolant overflow tank, no rust, no suspension issues, 1 rear engine mount, no engine or transmission issues. Mines 2006 model. Dont believe everything you read and you bought a lemon
I didn’t really have many issues so I’d hardly classify it as a lemon. Going based off forum posts of people’s issues and random articles on the internet these were the most common issues I found. Also , the higher mileage the car the more likely you will have issues, it’s really dependent on maintenance and upkeep from prior owners
@@Neptune8 Ah... so the issues you pointed out, aren't necessarily on YOUR 9-3, just what you heard?.... I classed it as a lemon as I thought you had all these issues lol... now it makes sense.... rust is rust, my 2 Aeros have mint arches but my friend has 1 arch that needs replacing & another has both rears just beginning to bubble, nature of the beast i suppose... be thankful its not a late 90's to early 00's Merc! They're worse than Lancia's for rot lol!
Some handy points. I’d only say, it’s frustrating to watch you pointing at things in complete darkness and thinking we can see what you’re trying to show us. Food for thought 😉
I had a 2006 9-3 aero turbo manual. I got it initially in July 2008 with 10,000 miles on it. It was beautiful and drove very well. I beat plenty of bmw’s and Mercedes with that v6 turbo. The white leather was super clean. The manual transmission became problematic around 55k miles on it and burned through many clutches for no apparent reason. The electronics started to break, like the sun roof around 60 k miles, the window pulley system broke on two sides. The dash buttons started to wear down showing a plastic white behind the film. The rubber glass seals around the windows cracked and chipped off. As beautiful as the car was at first...it became obvious Saab’s weren’t made like German competitors. The dash at night was something I’ll never forget. Super clean and green. I still have a love for Saab’s when I see them but I don’t recommend anyone goes and buys one at all. Best to leave them be. Saab story.
As a Saab fan who has owned more than I care to remember.... you can blame GM trying force Saab into making a lower quality vehicle than they wanted them to... that is why they pulled the plug. Sounds like you got a lemon. I have never had any of the common issues I keep hearing about lol I guess I just take care of mine... I have 2 friends who have migrated from BMW to Saab, not just because they can outrun them either. My 2 Aeros currently have 130k & 127k on the clocks..... apart from general maintenance & 1 cracked inlet manifold on my TTiD, between them they owe me a windshield washer pump, a pair of wiper blades & an EGR valve replacement.... not bad for a combined ownership of 6 years!
Good looking 9-3…I had the sedan in the same color, 06 aero 2.8l V6 modified and chipped. Loved the hell out of it. Yes there are some aggravating things with the model, but I would have strangers come up and compliment it all the time which felt good. Yes the #5 coil is a B!^
My thought ... don't attach heavy additional keys to the ignition key.... obviously fluids in that area are not a good thing but heavy keys are probably not good either .. get snagged..etc etc
Actually a lot of the time it's the fuse for the steering wheel lock if your battery keeps going dead this is what happens but also the hole is at the bottom of your ignition if you stick a paper click in that it unlocks it you're welcome
"Low oil pressure" is also a common issue for TTID, which requires a "O ring replacement" somewhere under the oil pump - as far as I know. The problem appears when you have a cold engine start. The light on the dashboard flashes only for a second, and not more. But how serious is that issue? There are different opinions in different Saab forums. My Saab is having this issue for a few months, but I am planning to fix it only in the upcoming yearly service in the summer, and not urgently. What is your opinion? Does it damage the engine? I think, if I wait a minute to warm up the engine, there sould not be a problem, the oil pressure should be built up in a few seconds anyway.
Woo hoo. I'm 11 for th 14 you mentioned. Don't have the V6 otherwise I might be all 14 and could add a few others including the key fob melting into a sludgy goo. Still going at 217,000 (touch wood) Is it weird to still love the car?
Have also an annoying thing ever since I bought it brand new on 2008...the vibrations make the rear mirror vibrate and it is annoying as hell when trying to see who's behind you...NEVER...but NEVER saw that on a car...
You bought it brand new & didn't take it back to the showroom under warranty? Only time any if mine had vibration is when a wheel weight fell off.... a trip to the balancer & all good.
Tell me if you think I got a good deal, about an hour ago I just purchased a Saab 9-3tid vector sport, it’s an 09 plate, AUTO, sitting on 90k @80k - Full service inc All filters, glow plugs and oil changed. Also had battery and discs and pads replaced at the same time. 86k - Oil change/pil filter replaced New aletrnator fitted last year. Waterpump and timing belt replaced at around 75k miles
check the carfax , if its had some of the more expensive items done , id say go for it. If you have the extra money to get any big maintenance done go for it. if the answer to these are both no then don't do it
your wrong about timing chain tensioners at @15:50 because over time over time because of build up and sludge and all that the noise you'll hear that sounds like it might be something from a Honda but its not this its lifters and not the tensioner on this vehicle just know the block is all have it and you are pretty accurate on the rest of the stuff but just want to help people out too
Change the oil regularly, use top quality fully synthetic oil to cope with the heat these engines run at....& have the sump dropped & sludge removed. Sorted.
@@brobno9use a strong addative and run the motor for 20 mins "do not rev it !" Then drop the oil , clean out the oil f housing with carb/brake cleaner and the threads on it too after removing the o ring seal! Fit new filter and seal,fasten it up! If the oil that came out was just dirty and no sludge, no need to drop the sump! The really good addatives do theur job very well!
@goldeneagle99 You dont know what is lurking in the bottom of the sump until you drop it. Last oil I drained looked decent enough but history had no sign of it, so dropped the sump & glad I did seeing what was left inside. ONLY the 2.3L B235 lumps suffer from this but that's usually down to crap ownership & missing changes. You are talking about off the shelf engine flush.... its ok, I guess.
The routine repairs aside, would you recommend a Saab, or is one better off with a Japanese car, insofar as reliability? I have long admired Saabs and want a car that's fun and enjoyable to drive, which they certainly seem. Thank you.
Reliability wise .. really it depends on the previous owner but from just an objective standpoint, I’d say it’s a toss up. The aero is a lot harder to work on due to its big engine and limited work space. Which leads to another point , do you think you can work on your car on your own ? If you can then I’d suggest get what want . Having the ability to know what the common issues are gives you the upper hand when going to buy one. Overall If you need it to commute and you NEED %100 reliability then I’d say get a Japanese car but for the price of the Saab (they also have low resale value) I’d suggest a Saab or a Volvo (both are quite enjoyable if you ask me)
Ravi Sriram Find yourself a 2.0T Aero petrol. In any of its guises its a better bet than the V6 for me. If you are in the US you cannot get the 1.9 diesel I think? Reliability wise, I have just had my 3rd anniversary of ownership (it is a 2007) & it owes me a windshield washer pump & a pair of wiper blades. Always change the oil before its due, & ALWAYS use the best fully synthetic. Mine gets Mobil 1 every time. Good luck!
(I have the 1.8 i Estate. Not in the USA. Without a turbo = better) But. The windows. Keep in mind to open the window once and wile. The windows stick to the rubber and when you open them after a long time the window motor breaks.
A Saab 9-3? Saab did not make a 9-3 non turbo, whatever the spec... 9-3's badged as 1.8 are in fact a 2.0 with small turbo. They made the 900 in a non turbo version though. Why does no turbo mean better? It is the other way round haha
@@brobno9 You're incorrect, maybe not all markets are the same. Here in EU for the 2nd gen 9-3 you have four choices in 4 cylinder petrol engines: the 1.8i, 1.8t, 2.0t and 2.0T 1.8t, the 2.0t and 2.0T is the same B207 engine, with a different tune which gives 150hp, 175hp and 210hp. The 1.8i is a complete different block (Vauxhaul / Opel Z18XE I believe) and has 122hp. On the highway these seem to cruise at very high rpm.. These have a less bullet proof reputation than the B207.. Check "saab 9-3 wiki" for a complete listing of engines.
@winandd8649 Well for a kick off... Saab never made a 1.8 anything?! They're ALL 2.0.... so you're incorrect on Saab class 101. B- for almost saving it with the correct HPs across the range though. I'm also in the UK, a 30 minute drive from Abbott Racing Saab HQ, where all mine are looked after... so when it comes to Saab.... what would you like to know?
@@brobno9 I don't understand what you're saying? 1.8i is 1.8 liter in size. If you mean that it's not a real Saab engine you're correct. Like I said It's a GM engine, but this was one of the engines available for the 9-3. I thought you meant that there was never a Saab 9-3 with a non-turbo 1.8 liter engine. So sorry if I did not understood correctly
@winandd8649 Here we go.... its a model number like a BMW 340i... its not a 4.0ltr is it? Same principle. 1.8t Insignia denotes a 2.0ltr turbo, smallest turbo charged hp in the range for the 93. Simple as that. ALL 93s are 2.0ltr. End of
@@Neptune8 my car starts fine ticks over fine but as soon as I drive it and it wants to boost it cuts out. cleaned my egr valve and filter on throttle body and was caked in soot so cleaned it and still doing same thing. could it be fuel pressure. no leaks or nothing on my engine as it's solid and clean
My '08 V6 aero's automatic transmission is/was like that, slippy as hell in hot weather. "Flushing" (as in draining and replacing the resevoir'd fluid, letting it circulate, and then repeating) did not help. It just got worse and worse and now the transmission is just holding on by a thread. The car has enough problems that I'm getting rid of it and looking into locating a clean 2.0T instead. Before the aero, my '05 arc was a great car for 7 years with only a few minor problems until I (stupidly) crashed it.
Glad I came across this video. Seen an 07 wagon for sale and I like the lines but this guy is rattling off problems I never had with any vehicles I owned. Don't need a new hobby.
It is interesting how most of the problems presented are related to the 2.8 V6, which is the rarest engine, and your video is "generally" about 9-3 ... The other 90% of the problems you mentioned are the same for any 15-year-old car , any brend. Someone wrote nice comment bellow... You should not believe everything that is written on the Internet. For example, you mention spark and coils as a saab problem, but every v6 car actually has the same problem - position ... Every used car has to replace strut mounts & bearings at some point and no, they don't goes bad once a month on a saab ...
I have a Saab sportswagon diesel automatic and it has been an absolute pain. Alternator, cim, cost me over £1100 and the car is not the same after the new cim was fitted. I had a Saab before and that was a pain also. I foolishly bought the second Saab thinking they can't all be poor, but i can honestly say saab is the worst car i have ever owned. Over engineered and too many electronic gadgets which are expensive. I totally hate Saab's. Unreliable and pure rubbish.
Was thinking of getting the Saab sportswagon I have a Skoda Octavia scout 2010 has done loads of miles and still drives well is and everything works have just put new timing belt and water pump in I get around 55mpg. Looking at some of the comments i think I’ll keep it lol 🤔
You repeated state "you will have this issue" or "they all do this". I am on my 7th Saab, and have experienced almost none of these issues. Particularly rust, have had none! I think you bought yourself a lemon there!
Lemon.. not exactly. You are on your 7th Saab and experienced no issues? That’s highly unlikely, in fact that’s almost statistically impossible. You have either been really lucky , or have been buying from people who took care of all the issues, or you buy and sell before the issues happen. But I’m happy you’re having a great experience with them
@@candy-le4nh 2002 engine blown twice .The first blown at 90k then secondhand replacement engine piston blown at round about 170k sold it to junk yard on the same day.
R rover Jaguar Fiat Peugeot Vaaxhall Ford Merc Porsche Kia "BMW" SHITRON 😂 newer toyota Newer honda Are all problematic..many far more than any saab ! Audi Vw Seat,all 👉💩🤣
@@urbanjam_1139 didn't say they aren't...all the ones listed are 10 to 20 times worse especially landrover,r rover,jaguar, vauxhall, fiat,renault,shitron, porsche, audi,vw,seat,merc a.k.a renault lmao... Ford... Tesla lmao Bmw are shocking and owned by pricks with no soul 👉💯🤣
@@Hasdac That is too a degree true, we were forced by GM to implement some of the electronics in the 9-3. The original patented Saab solutions were "copied" to GM and sourced at the lowest bidder! It got even worse a couple of years after each models introduction, when GM appointed Opel as responsible for the all cost reduction of both Saab /Opel & Vauxhall! GM=Gangster Motors 🤬
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That's rust is GM fault
Replacing spark plugs and coils is expensive
The SID dasplay is $300 for a new one so yeah
I'm definitely biased since I own a few Saabs but like any other vehicle on the road issues come up with age and mileage. Maintenance is key and so are the parts used!
This is so true. I bought a Chinese fuel pump and it failed two weeks later , had to get another one
As an MOT test center technician in Sweden, whose dad worked for SAAB for 40 years I can give these tips as well. Other SAAB 9-3 9-5 problems too look for: Rust: Wheel wells(all saabs), Top mounts in the engine bay(9-3), rear rub frame(9-3), Outer beam under the doors often covered witch plastic linings(9-3, 9-5), Bracket mounting points for the tail hook(all saabs), Brake pipe by the gas tank(9-5). Body: Rear outer control arm bushings(9-3 and 9-5), The front sub frame rear bushings(9-5).
All cars have their problems, even Volvo's with it's failing front control arm bushings, crank case ventilation and it's cracking refuel pipe.
BMW has it's rusting brake lines and Mercedes just rust....
But all of this is just normal car problems. Saab cars are fricking amazing! You will get so much car for your money if you can get a descent one.
Well can u tell me what if I get white heavy smoke coming from under the car,it smokes bad then stops and don't come.back on until a hour later? It doesn't do all the time maybe 3 times a week what could that be?
@@chitownchicago1234 from the exhaust?
The only time another badge will be entertained on my driveway is when I physically cannot find another Saab to buy....
completely few weeks my exhaust smoke its way out. Experienced on Means your turbo
Can anyone help please?. I have a 2005 saab 9-3 2.0t petrol automatic. B207 it mixes oil in the coolant bottle and spits it out with pressure. I have changed the head gasket, put a new thermostat in, new coolant pressure sensor, checked the oil cooler that seemed fine. What can my problem be? Could it be the gearbox oil mixing into coolant instead of engine oil?
Well,I've got a 2006 2.0t and its great. Starts 1st time and drives great. Regular oil change and drive it every day,it just keeps going.
I have a 2005 Aero convertible which I have had for six years - never let me down ! Has had new clutch and timing chains - 4 cylinder 2.0 petrol re mapped to 280Bhp
No rust on it as have it waxoyled every other year
Car has black diamond discs and pads , Bilstein shocks , Maptune exhaust
Common problem is drain hole blocking in scuttle and water soaks carpet on passenger side U.k.
Have had seatbelt issue - cost £150
to recondition
Agree interior plastic is atrocious - had dash trim done in vinyl
wrap and door pulls
Key to these cars is finding an independent Saab specialist who knows what they are doing ! Everything available virtually from
Sweden / had new roof fitted - needed two cables / came to U.K. in two days ! Lots of secondhand parts about
Main reason I bought mine was
1 safety 9.3 convertible immensely strong
2 style - good looking 4 seater convertible
3 Individual not a BMW or Audi clone
Wouldn’t buy a car that didn’t have comprehensive service history - service schedules quoted 18 months way to long - mine done every six months
Parts are surprisingly cheap ! Swedish Govt underwrote parts production
Plugs must be NGK !
Fully synthetic oil
Change coolant every 36k
Brake fluid every 24 k
I change transmission fluid every 4 years
Join owners club ! lots of information and knowledge
Use genuine parts
They are immensely strong 💪 just look at photos on line - I won’t drive anything else !
Mate what kind of mpg do you get on motorways? And general town driving?
Good shout on the discs, i was looking for some slotted and drilled rotors since I've always thought they looked great. you have any images of how they look after the black coating wears off?
@@hass316 I've got a stock 2l aero (minus exhaust) if you were to drive while having fun every now and then around town you'll float between 20-25mpg. i get about 26-28mpg from how i drive. if you're super light on the throttle on the motorway, you'll get around 40
all this according to the SID. I haven't actually manually calculated the real mpg to confirm
-You need the battery cover. The battery cover, compartment and that duct leading into it will run cool air over it to help prolong the battery.
-That overflow tank and the two hoses should be replaced every 5yrs since they sit right over the nuclear reactor.
-The plastic vacuum line assembly behind the motor also cracks eventually, but not a bad job to replace. The hesitation and surge are likely due to vacuum leaks, or the purge valve on the rear of the intake.
-The transmission issues are caused by not changing the fluid every 30k. Which is an odd issue, but a real requirement on the aisin warner transmission. Old fluid causes bad performance, and even failure to downshift to first gear at a stoplight. I had the fluid changed out twice over a few month period, then reset the battery and it shifted far better after the relearn period.
-Check fuse 14, I believe, which is for the SID. Might be that simple.
-The tensioner problem is actually pretty specific. One 2.0's you need to change both timing and balance chains around 160k miles, on the 2.8 it will typically last to 300k+, with the exception of the 2006 which had a slightly inferior design and might fail around 250k. With proper oil changes, the V6 really does not break chains, per our local saab repair shop that has been around for 50yrs.
-Enthusiast forums, T8Suite, WIS and EPC are your friends if you own a saab.
The power from Saab engines more than makes up for the little issues.
thank you , more comments that help the community are much appreciated!
nice calm video with ultra cool green dash lights ..i love the 9-3 convertible
Saab 9-3 Aero '03-'07....Best looking convertible ever made.... In my opinion anyway.
Front subframe rusting out is a huge issue on the newer generation - especially facelift models 2008 and newer. The ECU getting too hot in the 2.0T models. I would put those up top as #1 and 2.
for the battery, get the lid and intake. Get some auto insulation that has the silver face. Put a sheet in the battery cover and then surround the battery sides with this insulation also. I have had the same battery for three years. I also installed the metal tank and all silicone hoses
I hope there’s others reading this
Bingo! One of the first things I did on my Aero was take apart the battery box and wrap it with DEI heat wrap. Never replaced a battery yet. Also wrap the wire harness and get shrouds for the coolant tank lines.
Do you leave battery cover off too? Would it makes sense to leave engine cover off and the metal plate covering coils on the 2.0 turbo on 2005 9-3 Aero. Seems they just hold heat in
Really appreciate this man, it’s handy having all this info in one concise video.
thanks , thats what i hoping to help with !
I have owned Saabs for more years than I care to remember... I currently have 2 Aeros, one the same as the car here & one of the last face lifted gens.... I have never come across any of these "common problems" stated here.... have I just been lucky for all these years/cars or what?! I live in the UK & the only issue I have had is the water cooled inlet manifold on a TTiD Aero cracked... as for the rest of the so called common issues shown here.... nope, none! I find myself smiling at these videos : )..... nice wagon anyway!
Well since the average person buying these are buying them used cause they’re cheap they will be more likely to see these issues. I’d definitely chalk you up to being lucky. But common issues doesn’t necessarily mean you WILL have them. Thanks
Agree - think lots that come on used market are neglected or not serviced properly by a specialist ? Key to these cars is proper servicing and oil
changes ! Neglect results in wear to timing chains and tensioner
Great video mate...I have a 2008 9-3Tid and I suffer some of the problems you've recorded. But they're still a stonking motor and above all,....Beinging a father; safe!
For the record, I love your Saab. I had a 06 Saab 9-3 and I am a fan for life, but repairs and such are tough and expensive. Unfortunately, it's good if you do all of the maintenance, however, if you get a neglected car, good luck.
Tell me if you think I got a good deal, about an hour ago I just purchased a Saab 9-3tid vector sport, it’s an 09 plate, AUTO, sitting on 90k
@80k - Full service inc All filters, glow plugs and oil changed. Also had battery and discs and pads replaced at the same time.
86k - Oil change/pil filter replaced
New aletrnator fitted last year.
Waterpump and timing belt replaced at around 75k miles
@@gullyfx1 same here. I had a 1998 Saab 9-3 and it flew but I always had transmission problems so I had to get rid of it. I miss it though
As a '08 9-3 2.0T aero estate owner it's nice to see this video. Still love it and it puts a smile on my face and others. It's practical enough with the kids. I have had very few of the issues you mention after 5.5 years and it has been very reliable. First real maintenance was this year with new springs/dampers and a new PCB for the key lock. The car has about 200k kms at this moment, so it has just been run in ;) I hope to get a nice convertible again like the sweet vector I had.
Wow...this is one of the best SAAB Video's out there on TH-cam.
You got yourself a subscriber!
Thank you !! I put a lot of effort researching and typing up the bio to put the links. I unfortunately don’t have the Saab anymore though. So there will not be anymore Saab videos
Had that exact combi, same color, 06 Aero. Very sexy wagon, lots of fun to use and drive, and really a handy wagon.
Really appreciate the in depth content and solutions! Thanks!
Thank you for viewing the video! Glad I could help
You got it , shock tower bearings and engine mounts I would add. 🥲
Thank you very much with the important informations!
I have 3 06 9 3 Sportcombi for these past 3 yrs all V6 aero and I dont have any the problem you described All 3 are So Cal cars so definitely no rust issues only problem I had was one of them has ICM3 problem
Banging or clicking while turning can also usually be a knuckle bushing, it happens to the 9-5's quite often after reaching about 200000kms
The 9-5 is another quality. Much better but it still have some Opel part which causes the problems. The starter and engine bushes are really common.
An old 900. Is the best Saab ever. They don't have faults like the new one does. The answer to that is GM. Motors. Opel parts... But still a newer Saab is better than most other cars
The blower motor failing is a common prob too apparently. Dried leaves collect in the engine bay (at the top) and then the multch bungs up the motor. Goot vid, very informative as am just about to purchase one.
Door lock mech issues
I have one of these and my CID and the fuel gage failed. But no others. I like the car very much.
had to clean the TB in my 2004 9-5. It was nasty. I then drilled a small hole in the air intake so I could spray TB Cleaner occasionally. I insert a threaded screw to plug it up
I drive a 9-3 and every time I drive it, I’m waiting for something to happen. I’ve become paranoid, but I can’t seem to part with it!
exactly how i felt when i got rid of it
Good informative info overall. i would be more specific with the engine your referring to. A newbie would think your referring to all 9-3's. b207 vs b284 different common issues. thanks
i clarify a bit more in the pinned comment below , but timing issues, rust and suspension issues are common on all b204, b207 and b284 saabs
I have a 2003 93 with 207,000 on it. Still runs strong despite it having some electrical problems
I have a 2004 93 vector sport 1.9tid and dont haveany of those issues, not even the rust issue you mentioned
Mines at 140,000 now and has lived next to the sea for the last 10 years, not a single patch of rust anywhere 🤔
Lucky dude. UK owner and my arches and underneath have rust :(
SUPER RARE instance, are you garaging the Saab ?
@@S0rr0w93 UK owner here as well... all 4 arches are mint on both Aero's. I didn't get any rust on the ones before, or the ones before that either... bizarre!
@@brobno9 don't think it helps it's spent a lot of its life up in Scotland 🤦🏻♂️
@@S0rr0w93 That could well be an issue, I'll grant you that! Apart from the rust problems, anything else?
if you had the standard 4 cylinder 16 vall turbo engine you would never have this issue with the turbo and battery , as they said on the factory in us when they was into saab they said by them self " saab did know what they did when they keep the 4 cylinder engine " the car was much better when it was pure swedish , really one of the best car ever build in the world special the 900 and 9000 serie car
Loving this one thanks for sharing very information blessed love to all knowledge is power hopefully everyone pays attention keep up the good work 🙏🏿🙏🏿🙏🏿🇯🇲🇯🇲🇯🇲
I have the 2.8T manual transmission and the alternator is different than the automatic. So I had to get a local company to 3D print one because the could not find one. If esaabparts or Orio can’t find the parts get ready to pay through the nose asking someone to 3D print something for you or a rebuild.
Thank you very much, great video :)
That is a beautiful Sportcombi
Never had any fuel pump issues in any of my ng 9-3s (4) the 07 aero will throw a code occasionally for a fuel pressure regulator but gauge has worked my biggest issue I’ve been having is the f40 auto trans failing valve body due to lack of maintenance… fluid service is big on these car
F40 is manual
Yeah, I have a facelift version of the saab 9-3 station wagon and the coil spring (from the passenger side) broke last year :)
And I have the same passenger broken spring in the real
How did it sound or feel? I think mine might of cracked as well. It sounds like a wobbly metal noise over bumps and it's harsh
❤️ our saab bought it for 900 dollars in 2014 with a 100k miles about to turn 200k this year. My 03 linear has most of these problems. Mine also had a water leak by the cabin air filter that killed the blower motor that would have totally been preventable by resealing the plastic filter retainer on the firewall. Also don't forget about the oil leaks on the b207 they are everywhere as the car ages.
2006-2008 2.0T B207 engine has problems with the intake valves. This is a very costly repair, I just completed this on my 2007. Saab requires you to purchase the cam locks to re-time the cam sprockets to the timing chain/crank sprocket, very dumb design as the camshafts are already keyed for sprockets, but there are no keyways on the sprockets themselves. Also, I had to repair 3 of the 4 door lock latches on mine, as they would not trigger the dome light. Radiator hose tee on the B207 engine, near the intake, those are prone to fail. Rear tail light lenses pop off of the tail light housing. I have never seen this happen on any other make or model. Seems like every other day someone has this problem on the Saab FB page(s). Gasket on the cabin air filter housing allows water to enter the cabin of the vehicle. Fuel tank straps have poor rust-resistant coatings on them. I'm sure there are a dozen more common problems. I can't recommend a Saab to anyone at this point.
Yes had throttle body problem - tried used ones but failed after about 6 months - Neo Brothers UK have new ones warranted 12 months £186
I leased the first V6 Sport Combi Wagon (4th Saab) with all the whistles and bells in Florida right off the boat from Jville. Awesome looking car, but the v6 made the front end plow (too heavy) and the constant droning exhaust note drove me crazy. When the lease ran out I leased a Mazda CX 7 Turbo, which I liked a lot. Turned it in at lease end and bought my current 9-5 Wagon
Mine came with 3 keys. 2 standard keys and a valet key. Most common problem, engine turns but car doesn't start (disconnect the battery, wait 10 seconds, reconnect and try again). Another goodie, the slide out cup holder locks in and won't slide out anymore (pull the dashboard apart and release it from the inside). Gear box problem, contact Saab dealer (crankshaft position sensor is failing). Fuel level sensor, ahh yes. GM used a float that dissolves or wears out (empty the tank and drop the fuel tank and replace the float). Stability module reports a problem when humidity is high. I haven't found a cure for that beyond avoiding puddles. Saabs eat low beam headlight bulbs. I get about 3 - 5 months on a Sylvannia H7. The owner's manual specifies Mobile1 motor oil. All cars with shoulder strap belts have wind up springs. The springs usually last 5 to 20 years, but eventually a new belt windup spring is needed.
T.y.. Your vid helped me decide whether to purchase or not a 9-3 2.0t 180k on the odo for 4k.
That’s the whole point of the video ! I’m glad I was able to shed some light on the information
180k on the clock & they're asking 4k?!?
@@brobno9 yes that is right. It was in excellent condition with all the service records but I didnt purchase because of the miles on the odo. I will look for one with low miles. Saabs are becoming rare. Barely I can see one in the road.
@@boyasia5874 I see.... may I ask where you are? I am in the UK & there are plenty available. You must be abroad? On a footnote, never let mileage put you off a Saab. Change the oil regularly with fully synthetic & maintain properly... we have guys in my local Saab club in excess of 300k miles, still pulling like the day they rolled out of Trollhattan!
Somebody help , When stopped the car is making tickling noises , when accelerating it stopped making noise , when i press full the gas pedal the car after 2.5-3k rpms starts to shaking, I changed coil and spark plugs and still have the problem!!
If you have a convertible the hydraulic lift rams for the top will leak. Guaranteed. New ones are hideously expensive, but you can have them rebuilt much cheaper.
Bought one of these, compered to volvo the rost alot. I have rust the same location. And i have yet to see one without the rust. They are super common here live in Sweden
Good information to know. Thank you! I'm trying to find part number for back lift struts (2006 Saab 9-3 Combi Sport) any idea where i can search? I purchase once before and received the wrong ones. Thanks
Wow! You have my car!
Ok I have a 2k7 Fusion Blue Areo SportCombi.
Can confirm the coolant reservoir issue, battery heat, coil packs (ya get faster at it each time).
No fuel sensor issues or CIM issuess. But..... #6 fuel pump went in 3 weeks ago with as many years.
Automatic transmission is a beast! 185k on it with 100k of it VTuner Stage 2 with Snow Performance Methanol Injection. Tortured actually and its still strong.
It is a great car but you'll become a mechanic to keep it going. Super satisfaction when clowning in a Saab Wagon
I am looking for a 2006-2008 9-3 Aero SC with a manual or a Volvo V50 T5 AWD with manual. Thanks for posting this.
In my opinion the Volvo would be a better buy , they’re just as rare but the Volvo community is FAR more friendly
Regarding the coolant expansion tank - that's as far as I know only an issue with the V6 engine. Regarding the battery - are you sure that the overheating/battery draining isn't due to missing the cover for the battery? It's supposed to be cooled via the venting tube.
Hi!
Maybee Im lucky, but I found a really low mileage 2011 Saab 93 Sport Combi Linear, with only one previous owner( old lady), its been garage kept, so its really a pearl.
No rust on any fenders, but underneath, the rust protection is deteriorate, so I have already a special guy who deals with older cars, and he will sandblaster it under completely, and then paint it with Zink paint, before he add more of the normal protection, the whole procedure takes minimum 4 days to do. its woth it due the car is almost like new.
The automatic transmission oil, is due to be changed after 6 years or at 120 000km, this is very important.
I hade 15 years ago a Saab 95 T 2.3, it was a great car, but I must say this 93 is more funny to drive, have just tuned it as step one, and increase the horse power from 150 to 200hk, so it runs great.
I see you have a V6 engine. what year model is it?
You are right the passenger spring are commonly cracked, not on my car(yet), but we will se, I would not be surprised, I have heard about this on the 93:s
Thanks for the tip about the cup holder, not to use an open can, I always use a pet bottle with the cork on, but its really a good tip
I have a 1.8T gasoline bio power, and ok its a low mileage car, so I have not experience any of your problems (yet), but personally, I stayed away from the V6 engines, due to high consumption.
And the V6 engine is I think a GM product, which is also sitting in many Holding cars in Australia.
Ok its more power in the V6, but if you tune the Saab 4 cylinder engines, you get a good kick out of them, with much lower gasoline consumption.
I really love this car, and I will treat it lika a baby.
Thanks also for the advice about the cam chain tension adjuster, I will keep my ears open.
Thanks for a very informative video, its always good to listen on others experience made.
Hi. I'm interested in the gear gator you have on. How did you do it please with the auto transmission? Cheers
i considered making a video about it. i wasnt sure if that would interest people though. but stay tuned to the channel i might just do it anyway
Just found the video.
Saab 93 aero v6. 6 years owned only 1 battery, coolant overflow tank, no rust, no suspension issues, 1 rear engine mount, no engine or transmission issues. Mines 2006 model. Dont believe everything you read and you bought a lemon
100% agree!
I didn’t really have many issues so I’d hardly classify it as a lemon. Going based off forum posts of people’s issues and random articles on the internet these were the most common issues I found. Also , the higher mileage the car the more likely you will have issues, it’s really dependent on maintenance and upkeep from prior owners
@@Neptune8 Ah... so the issues you pointed out, aren't necessarily on YOUR 9-3, just what you heard?.... I classed it as a lemon as I thought you had all these issues lol... now it makes sense.... rust is rust, my 2 Aeros have mint arches but my friend has 1 arch that needs replacing & another has both rears just beginning to bubble, nature of the beast i suppose... be thankful its not a late 90's to early 00's Merc! They're worse than Lancia's for rot lol!
Yum your missing the cover for the battery which keeps it cool with outside air flowing into battery
So....why not route the battery in the rear loading area ?.
i"m in the uk,i have a 1.9tid linear sports wagon,its totality cack,spent 850 pounds on it....still cant find 1st gear...i want to see it gone
My driver headlight HID bulb isn’t working. It’s not the bulb as replacement and swapping sides and still the same... anyone had this?
Belive its the module on the headlight.. saw a video take headlight off module on the bottom of the headlight assembly
Check module, also check the wiring , my fog bulb needed new ground wires
Nice content
Thank you for viewing, hope it helps
I have Saab 93 combi 2006 , the only problem, but the mayor one is rusted K-frame and ther is none on the market 😢
Some handy points. I’d only say, it’s frustrating to watch you pointing at things in complete darkness and thinking we can see what you’re trying to show us. Food for thought 😉
True but i shoot solely on my iPhone and unfortunately i no longer have this saab so I can’t remake the video
good Job . Thanks
I had key problem with my manual 93 and cost me over $600 to get fixed plus a tow cause it happened at work. Ugghh
I had a 2006 9-3 aero turbo manual. I got it initially in July 2008 with 10,000 miles on it. It was beautiful and drove very well. I beat plenty of bmw’s and Mercedes with that v6 turbo. The white leather was super clean. The manual transmission became problematic around 55k miles on it and burned through many clutches for no apparent reason. The electronics started to break, like the sun roof around 60 k miles, the window pulley system broke on two sides. The dash buttons started to wear down showing a plastic white behind the film. The rubber glass seals around the windows cracked and chipped off. As beautiful as the car was at first...it became obvious Saab’s weren’t made like German competitors. The dash at night was something I’ll never forget. Super clean and green. I still have a love for Saab’s when I see them but I don’t recommend anyone goes and buys one at all. Best to leave them be. Saab story.
As a Saab fan who has owned more than I care to remember.... you can blame GM trying force Saab into making a lower quality vehicle than they wanted them to... that is why they pulled the plug. Sounds like you got a lemon. I have never had any of the common issues I keep hearing about lol I guess I just take care of mine... I have 2 friends who have migrated from BMW to Saab, not just because they can outrun them either. My 2 Aeros currently have 130k & 127k on the clocks..... apart from general maintenance & 1 cracked inlet manifold on my TTiD, between them they owe me a windshield washer pump, a pair of wiper blades & an EGR valve replacement.... not bad for a combined ownership of 6 years!
Good looking 9-3…I had the sedan in the same color, 06 aero 2.8l V6 modified and chipped. Loved the hell out of it. Yes there are some aggravating things with the model, but I would have strangers come up and compliment it all the time which felt good. Yes the #5 coil is a B!^
My thought ... don't attach heavy additional keys to the ignition key.... obviously fluids in that area are not a good thing but heavy keys are probably not good either .. get snagged..etc etc
Actually a lot of the time it's the fuse for the steering wheel lock if your battery keeps going dead this is what happens but also the hole is at the bottom of your ignition if you stick a paper click in that it unlocks it you're welcome
"Low oil pressure" is also a common issue for TTID, which requires a "O ring replacement" somewhere under the oil pump - as far as I know. The problem appears when you have a cold engine start. The light on the dashboard flashes only for a second, and not more. But how serious is that issue? There are different opinions in different Saab forums. My Saab is having this issue for a few months, but I am planning to fix it only in the upcoming yearly service in the summer, and not urgently. What is your opinion? Does it damage the engine? I think, if I wait a minute to warm up the engine, there sould not be a problem, the oil pressure should be built up in a few seconds anyway.
With all the problems you listed, how can saab still be reliable???
There's an OEM battery insulation meant for the Australian/HOT climate market. Saves some wear and tear on the battery. part no.12782451
Woo hoo. I'm 11 for th 14 you mentioned. Don't have the V6 otherwise I might be all 14 and could add a few others including the key fob melting into a sludgy goo. Still going at 217,000 (touch wood) Is it weird to still love the car?
Have also an annoying thing ever since I bought it brand new on 2008...the vibrations make the rear mirror vibrate and it is annoying as hell when trying to see who's behind you...NEVER...but NEVER saw that on a car...
You bought it brand new & didn't take it back to the showroom under warranty? Only time any if mine had vibration is when a wheel weight fell off.... a trip to the balancer & all good.
Tell me if you think I got a good deal, about an hour ago I just purchased a Saab 9-3tid vector sport, it’s an 09 plate, AUTO, sitting on 90k
@80k - Full service inc All filters, glow plugs and oil changed. Also had battery and discs and pads replaced at the same time.
86k - Oil change/pil filter replaced
New aletrnator fitted last year.
Waterpump and timing belt replaced at around 75k miles
theres a 2003 saab 93 with 90k miles for 2k$ should I buy it??
check the carfax , if its had some of the more expensive items done , id say go for it. If you have the extra money to get any big maintenance done go for it. if the answer to these are both no then don't do it
Anyone know how these 9-3's do in the snow?
Look on the net. There are videos .
Hey !
things is not Forever. You had to fix this kinde of isue on al cars.
All 9-3's from that generation had cup holders in the dashboard so problem solved about saving the ignition key sensor
your wrong about timing chain tensioners at @15:50 because over time over time because of build up and sludge and all that the noise you'll hear that sounds like it might be something from a Honda but its not this its lifters and not the tensioner on this vehicle just know the block is all have it and you are pretty accurate on the rest of the stuff but just want to help people out too
Change the oil regularly, use top quality fully synthetic oil to cope with the heat these engines run at....& have the sump dropped & sludge removed. Sorted.
Thanks for helping out
@@Neptune8 If it helps keep another Saab on the road I'm happy : )
@@brobno9use a strong addative and run the motor for 20 mins "do not rev it !" Then drop the oil , clean out the oil f housing with carb/brake cleaner and the threads on it too after removing the o ring seal!
Fit new filter and seal,fasten it up!
If the oil that came out was just dirty and no sludge, no need to drop the sump! The really good addatives do theur job very well!
@goldeneagle99 You dont know what is lurking in the bottom of the sump until you drop it. Last oil I drained looked decent enough but history had no sign of it, so dropped the sump & glad I did seeing what was left inside. ONLY the 2.3L B235 lumps suffer from this but that's usually down to crap ownership & missing changes. You are talking about off the shelf engine flush.... its ok, I guess.
The routine repairs aside, would you recommend a Saab, or is one better off with a Japanese car, insofar as reliability? I have long admired Saabs and want a car that's fun and enjoyable to drive, which they certainly seem. Thank you.
Reliability wise .. really it depends on the previous owner but from just an objective standpoint, I’d say it’s a toss up. The aero is a lot harder to work on due to its big engine and limited work space. Which leads to another point , do you think you can work on your car on your own ? If you can then I’d suggest get what want . Having the ability to know what the common issues are gives you the upper hand when going to buy one.
Overall If you need it to commute and you NEED %100 reliability then I’d say get a Japanese car but for the price of the Saab (they also have low resale value) I’d suggest a Saab or a Volvo (both are quite enjoyable if you ask me)
Ravi Sriram Find yourself a 2.0T Aero petrol. In any of its guises its a better bet than the V6 for me. If you are in the US you cannot get the 1.9 diesel I think? Reliability wise, I have just had my 3rd anniversary of ownership (it is a 2007) & it owes me a windshield washer pump & a pair of wiper blades. Always change the oil before its due, & ALWAYS use the best fully synthetic. Mine gets Mobil 1 every time. Good luck!
Where do you live ?
In "nordic countries", ok to buy Saab, but not elsewhere...
@@brobno9nahh..limited torque....
@@goldeneagle99 LOL... 483nm from my TTiD says different.
The turbo is not placed there on the normal 4 cylinder moter man :) Dont forget to mention you got at V6
(I have the 1.8 i Estate. Not in the USA. Without a turbo = better) But. The windows. Keep in mind to open the window once and wile. The windows stick to the rubber and when you open them after a long time the window motor breaks.
A Saab 9-3? Saab did not make a 9-3 non turbo, whatever the spec... 9-3's badged as 1.8 are in fact a 2.0 with small turbo. They made the 900 in a non turbo version though. Why does no turbo mean better? It is the other way round haha
@@brobno9 You're incorrect, maybe not all markets are the same. Here in EU for the 2nd gen 9-3 you have four choices in 4 cylinder petrol engines:
the 1.8i, 1.8t, 2.0t and 2.0T
1.8t, the 2.0t and 2.0T is the same B207 engine, with a different tune which gives 150hp, 175hp and 210hp.
The 1.8i is a complete different block (Vauxhaul / Opel Z18XE I believe) and has 122hp. On the highway these seem to cruise at very high rpm..
These have a less bullet proof reputation than the B207..
Check "saab 9-3 wiki" for a complete listing of engines.
@winandd8649 Well for a kick off... Saab never made a 1.8 anything?! They're ALL 2.0.... so you're incorrect on Saab class 101. B- for almost saving it with the correct HPs across the range though. I'm also in the UK, a 30 minute drive from Abbott Racing Saab HQ, where all mine are looked after... so when it comes to Saab.... what would you like to know?
@@brobno9 I don't understand what you're saying? 1.8i is 1.8 liter in size. If you mean that it's not a real Saab engine you're correct. Like I said It's a GM engine, but this was one of the engines available for the 9-3.
I thought you meant that there was never a Saab 9-3 with a non-turbo 1.8 liter engine.
So sorry if I did not understood correctly
@winandd8649 Here we go.... its a model number like a BMW 340i... its not a 4.0ltr is it? Same principle. 1.8t Insignia denotes a 2.0ltr turbo, smallest turbo charged hp in the range for the 93. Simple as that. ALL 93s are 2.0ltr. End of
mine can't rust it's plastic
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@@Neptune8 lmao I've a problem Neptune can you help me mate
@@Neptune8 my car starts fine ticks over fine but as soon as I drive it and it wants to boost it cuts out. cleaned my egr valve and filter on throttle body and was caked in soot so cleaned it and still doing same thing. could it be fuel pressure. no leaks or nothing on my engine as it's solid and clean
@@kingmiles009 what engine ? Have tried changing plugs and coils ?
@@Neptune8 it's the 1.9 150bhp vector estate
Dude, you'll never sell your car! 😁
Too late late lol
O8 facelift 2.0t on full tank it’ll show empty just a quirk not really a big deal
That's what you get when Saab sells out to GM?
The T 8 computers are starting to go on 9-3's. Unlike the 9-5 computers they are nearly impossible to find.
My transmission is acting up a bit when it`s reeeeally hot,hoping a flush will fix it.Love the car otherwise.
My '08 V6 aero's automatic transmission is/was like that, slippy as hell in hot weather. "Flushing" (as in draining and replacing the resevoir'd fluid, letting it circulate, and then repeating) did not help. It just got worse and worse and now the transmission is just holding on by a thread. The car has enough problems that I'm getting rid of it and looking into locating a clean 2.0T instead. Before the aero, my '05 arc was a great car for 7 years with only a few minor problems until I (stupidly) crashed it.
Glad I came across this video. Seen an 07 wagon for sale and I like the lines but this guy is rattling off problems I never had with any vehicles I owned. Don't need a new hobby.
It is interesting how most of the problems presented are related to the 2.8 V6, which is the rarest engine, and your video is "generally" about 9-3 ... The other 90% of the problems you mentioned are the same for any 15-year-old car , any brend. Someone wrote nice comment bellow... You should not believe everything that is written on the Internet. For example, you mention spark and coils as a saab problem, but every v6 car actually has the same problem - position ... Every used car has to replace strut mounts & bearings at some point and no, they don't goes bad once a month on a saab ...
I have a Saab sportswagon diesel automatic and it has been an absolute pain. Alternator, cim, cost me over £1100 and the car is not the same after the new cim was fitted. I had a Saab before and that was a pain also. I foolishly bought the second Saab thinking they can't all be poor, but i can honestly say saab is the worst car i have ever owned. Over engineered and too many electronic gadgets which are expensive. I totally hate Saab's. Unreliable and pure rubbish.
Was thinking of getting the Saab sportswagon I have a Skoda Octavia scout 2010 has done loads of miles and still drives well is and everything works have just put new timing belt and water pump in I get around 55mpg. Looking at some of the comments i think I’ll keep it lol 🤔
Hungarian subtitle please👍🏻👏🏻🤩
Older Made in Sweden SAAB seem to be of Better Build Quality than later year ones made by GM!
You repeated state "you will have this issue" or "they all do this". I am on my 7th Saab, and have experienced almost none of these issues. Particularly rust, have had none! I think you bought yourself a lemon there!
Lemon.. not exactly. You are on your 7th Saab and experienced no issues? That’s highly unlikely, in fact that’s almost statistically impossible. You have either been really lucky , or have been buying from people who took care of all the issues, or you buy and sell before the issues happen. But I’m happy you’re having a great experience with them
@@Neptune8 I think you need to read what I said.
mans yappin abt stuff he dont know
Bro, I m intersted in buying one and listening to your list and waiting for you to shut up 🤣
So don’t buy a Saab?
Saab 93 1.9 TiD najgori ikad proizveden
Pos made by Swedish 😆 🤣 😂
Do you even know cars bro?
Saab never built a estate car. This a GM Vector not a true Saab. Make no wonder it's crap.
Saab cars are the worst I have 95 aero bought it new have so much mechanical issues and endless problems .
Which model/year of 95?
@@candy-le4nh 2002 engine blown twice .The first blown at 90k then secondhand replacement engine piston blown at round about 170k sold it to junk yard on the same day.
R rover
Jaguar
Fiat
Peugeot
Vaaxhall
Ford
Merc
Porsche
Kia
"BMW"
SHITRON 😂
newer toyota
Newer honda
Are all problematic..many far more than any saab !
Audi
Vw
Seat,all 👉💩🤣
@@goldeneagle99 you are wrong saab is most problematic I have driven other that you listed
@@urbanjam_1139 didn't say they aren't...all the ones listed are 10 to 20 times worse especially landrover,r rover,jaguar, vauxhall, fiat,renault,shitron, porsche, audi,vw,seat,merc a.k.a renault lmao...
Ford...
Tesla lmao
Bmw are shocking and owned by pricks with no soul 👉💯🤣
The electrics are crap GM ran Saab into the ground...Saab 9-3 is just a vauxhall underneath
Wrong! Saab actually got a lot of whipping from GM management, due to that GM was dissatisfied about the lack of c/o from GM/Opel /Vauxhall
@@bengtmowitz5012 my Saab 9-3 is junk no one wants to work on it. It's not moved because of crap electronics GM fail.
@@Hasdac That is too a degree true, we were forced by GM to implement some of the electronics in the 9-3. The original patented Saab solutions were "copied" to GM and sourced at the lowest bidder! It got even worse a couple of years after each models introduction, when GM appointed Opel as responsible for the all cost reduction of both Saab /Opel & Vauxhall! GM=Gangster Motors 🤬
@@bengtmowitz5012GREMLIN MOTORS...
Ha