They sold the DD1 stem for $30 for Black Friday 2023, had no intention of upgrading but couldn't pass up that deal. Finally got around to getting the wheel side, got the $100 one. I used to not think I had any noticeable flex with my formula v2.5, until I tried with the QR2, it actually did eliminate the little bit that was there, but I don't think I would have upgraded at full price.
Just pre ordered the QR2 type c bundle last night. I didn't really have any issue with the QR light, slightly over tightening it would snug it up nicely.
@@JCRacing57but why is it a nice upgrade. Can you explain the exact difference to the QR Lite. I have only one wheel and a QR Lite which is veeery strong thightened.
I still use V2.5. The universal hub and one wheel are too old to upgrade to QR2. I've seen mentioned on Fanatec website that they may make adapter for base side to QR1. I hope so because replacing wheels and base would be too expensive.
sadly i dont think they will as all the belt driven wheels have been discontinued, i think when your ready a 8NM CSL DD should be in your sights, especially on like a black friday sale! Great wheel base
Unless you have one of the new wheelbases that comes with the QR2 preinstalled I don't see the point ( unless you deliberately flex your wheel in an unnatural way u don't notice it or you got a QR1 from the bad batch and didn't replace it ) I have both plastic and metal qr1 and they are both fine running the 6nm dd csl ( or whatever they call it lol )
Nice review! I am planning to upgrade to dd in the future. The quick release was the main reason to choose moza over fanatec. Now with the new qr fanatec has solved one of their biggest issues.
Mine qr lite was rattling like crazy!. I put a piece of tape between the wheelbase and stem so the wheel is now firm and snug, zero play and rattling anymore.. but of course i cant easily take off the wheel now, its there forever i supose.. becouse when i take it off i need to go to the whole proces to make it snug again with a piece of tape😢
my clubsport-steering-wheel-porsche-918-rsr looks like has QR1 but not the kind that detaches easily looks like would need some aftermarket mods to convert to QR2... was looking at new Clubsport DD 12nm looks like it says "*Older QR1 Steering Wheels without an exchangeable quick release require the QR1 Base-Side (Type-F) accessory." but cant find such accessory on the website...
Yes I think that wheel is too old to be upgraded I’m afraid. There are some great newer wheels though that arnt much money if you want to upgrade of course. But if your happy with your current setup, it’s not worth buying a whole new rim just for QR2
I'm sticking with the QR1 lite as long as I can. I ordered a new clamp with 2 bolts and there's no disconnects or flex anymore so it's working well enough for me :)
Just ordered the CSL bundle with the QR1 and to me, this is Fanatec offering a lower price to try to nickel and dime you for more as I would of had to buy the base side and wheel side QR2 which would of added 120 to a touted value bundle and make it meh value.
Thank you for the video, Fanatec said it will give a better FFB feeling, better fidelity, did you notice something different on that aspect or is exactly the same?
I upgraded from a QR-Lite on a CSL DD 8Nm. If you have the wheelbase mounted rigidly to an 8020 rig for example, it does give a better feeling yes. It's hard to describe but the ffb comes through cleaner and more detailed. Not a night and day difference, but it is there. If on the other hand your wheelbase is desk mounted like in the video, that's where most of your flex will be coming from, so I don't think you'd feel a difference.
Only the full metal version is acceptable. And the price of this (wheel + base Side) is so ridiculously high compared to other existing qr systems, it is embarassing. So glad I left that ecosystem 2 years ago!
At least, they have eliminated the weakest point of the fanatec hardware. And regarding price/quality ratio their wheels are without competition. @@JCRacing57
@JC Racing Is the QR2 compatible with the CSL Elite Steering Wheel Mclaren gt3 v2 (for xbox)? It looks similar to the one shown in this video but I am not 100% sure. If so, do i just buy the QR2 and thats it? or anything else needed to make it compatible? Thanks!
QR1 and CSL DD PRO core are not made of aluminum. This metal is similar to steel. It is very durable and reliable. QR2 is soft aluminum that is deformable and its price is $100, seriously. I have no problems with QR1..
I hear you and felt the same but upgraded my DD2 and my wheel to a QR2 pro and I will tell you it's a massive difference. It's like going from my CSW 2.5 to DD2 all over again. So much more fidelity and feel and I never noticed the flex in my QR1. If you have the coin spend the money
@@carownervirus4438 thats because ur not using QR1 screw, or there is something wrong with ur QR1 screw, there is no flexing in my QR1 at all, as long u use the screw
@@moncimoov The issue with QR1 is that it is not able to cope with variations in manufacturing tolerances. Some people like you have a QR1 setup that is rock solid but others have a QR1 that is a sloppy, noisy mess in comparison.
Mine is aforesaid sloppy mess, even with the screw torqued to the.point it's about to strip threads there is the slightest give. I also maintain the qr1 is not a quick release, if you need a tool, it ain't quick.
@@JCRacing57 They said in their product release that they have plenty of stock on hand and yet a few days after release there's a one month wait for stock..lol
@@JCRacing57does QR2 come fitted or come with the new 15NM on pre order? Also, I’m upgrading from g29 on Ps5. I’m really unsure if I should get 5nm for about €300 8NM for about €600 or the new 15NM for €1000. I don’t want to pay €1000 if it’s too much nm and I also don’t want to buy lower and not be enough. Any1 got any advice? I’d be annoyed if I buy 15NM and only have at 5NM.
You fanatec shills are hilarious, spend a little more money go with simagic or moza. You know wheel bases you can use with NRG quick releases. Just because bmw used it doesn’t mean it’s the best thing since slice bred
I’m not a shill, trust me Fanatec has its own issues, but Fanatec has a very large proportion of sim hardware sold, most people have had their DD1 / 2’s and CSL DD’s sense before Moza Racing even existed as a company. And this is a fantastic upgrade for those people, and a very rigid QR system that is one of if not the best in the sim market now.
They sold the DD1 stem for $30 for Black Friday 2023, had no intention of upgrading but couldn't pass up that deal. Finally got around to getting the wheel side, got the $100 one. I used to not think I had any noticeable flex with my formula v2.5, until I tried with the QR2, it actually did eliminate the little bit that was there, but I don't think I would have upgraded at full price.
Just pre ordered the QR2 type c bundle last night. I didn't really have any issue with the QR light, slightly over tightening it would snug it up nicely.
I didnt have any issues with my QR lite either, but the QR2 was a nice upgrade
@@JCRacing57but why is it a nice upgrade. Can you explain the exact difference to the QR Lite. I have only one wheel and a QR Lite which is veeery strong thightened.
But every other race car uses a normal QR LOL that you can get the mounts for $40 and put what ever wheel you want.
@@Chris_2709i am experiencing disconnection issues with the qr1 lite so have ordered the qr2 to mitigate this
@@Chris_2709force feedback details are better with qr2, and generally just better in every single way down the road
if it is enough for a race car i think its ok for a sim, i hope its the same as the rece car part
the Gold one is the exact same part as the M4 GT3 / GT4 use, its FIA Certified, The rest are not, but the black one is of almost identical quality
I still use V2.5. The universal hub and one wheel are too old to upgrade to QR2. I've seen mentioned on Fanatec website that they may make adapter for base side to QR1. I hope so because replacing wheels and base would be too expensive.
sadly i dont think they will as all the belt driven wheels have been discontinued, i think when your ready a 8NM CSL DD should be in your sights, especially on like a black friday sale! Great wheel base
Unless you have one of the new wheelbases that comes with the QR2 preinstalled I don't see the point ( unless you deliberately flex your wheel in an unnatural way u don't notice it or you got a QR1 from the bad batch and didn't replace it ) I have both plastic and metal qr1 and they are both fine running the 6nm dd csl ( or whatever they call it lol )
yeah i said in my review, unless you have an issue with your QR1, your probably good just sticking with it for awhile
Nice review! I am planning to upgrade to dd in the future. The quick release was the main reason to choose moza over fanatec. Now with the new qr fanatec has solved one of their biggest issues.
Yeah defenitally! Compitition breeds better and cheaper products!
I have a dd gt pro 8nm for iracing with qr1 and open wheel clubsport wheel… will i get performance boost if i get the qr2?
Mine qr lite was rattling like crazy!. I put a piece of tape between the wheelbase and stem so the wheel is now firm and snug, zero play and rattling anymore.. but of course i cant easily take off the wheel now, its there forever i supose.. becouse when i take it off i need to go to the whole proces to make it snug again with a piece of tape😢
my clubsport-steering-wheel-porsche-918-rsr looks like has QR1 but not the kind that detaches easily looks like would need some aftermarket mods to convert to QR2... was looking at new Clubsport DD 12nm looks like it says "*Older QR1 Steering Wheels without an exchangeable quick release require the QR1 Base-Side (Type-F) accessory." but cant find such accessory on the website...
Yes I think that wheel is too old to be upgraded I’m afraid. There are some great newer wheels though that arnt much money if you want to upgrade of course. But if your happy with your current setup, it’s not worth buying a whole new rim just for QR2
I'm sticking with the QR1 lite as long as I can. I ordered a new clamp with 2 bolts and there's no disconnects or flex anymore so it's working well enough for me :)
yeah, QR1 is still very good!
Heheh.. After using my CSL DD for a couple of weeks it burned and now I'm waiting for the support to answer and get the RMA process going..
@@MikaTarkelawait whatttt 😭
I I’m gonna buy a ready2race bundle with a QR2 LITE WHEEL SIDE. But do I need a base side with it to connect the wheel to the base or isn’t it needed?
it is needed
nice video, but it's kind of hard to tell whether the new QR flex or not when your base is shaking this much. Please get a proper cockpit.
Got one now!
Do you also have small upside down movement on the ring you pull back? Mine feels a bit loose so it causes a small upside down movement.
Yes, definitly. I just change all my 6 wheels and DD2 QR.
Nice man! :D
Isn't qr1/plastic qr the most issues of csl dd? Have any tried aliexpress qr2 for csl ?
I was lucky enough to get the wheel base type C stem for $19.99 was a few days during Black Friday.
Yeah it was a pretty killer sale!
Just ordered the CSL bundle with the QR1 and to me, this is Fanatec offering a lower price to try to nickel and dime you for more as I would of had to buy the base side and wheel side QR2 which would of added 120 to a touted value bundle and make it meh value.
yeah if your just getting in until QR2 gets cheaper it might be best to stick to QR1
Thank you for the video, Fanatec said it will give a better FFB feeling, better fidelity, did you notice something different on that aspect or is exactly the same?
no no difference, if u already have QR1
@@moncimoov it will be a much better feeling for the many QR1 users who have a bad QR1 setup due to the known issues with the design.
I upgraded from a QR-Lite on a CSL DD 8Nm. If you have the wheelbase mounted rigidly to an 8020 rig for example, it does give a better feeling yes. It's hard to describe but the ffb comes through cleaner and more detailed. Not a night and day difference, but it is there. If on the other hand your wheelbase is desk mounted like in the video, that's where most of your flex will be coming from, so I don't think you'd feel a difference.
For the love of God, go get a moza desk clamp for your DD. It is by far the best clamp for fanatec wheel bases 👍
ive got a rig now! 😂
the best 1 is made by fanatec its 100 usd
Idk why but my wheel constantly disconnects, anyone know what might cause this? I just bought a brand new set up (DD pro + clubsport v2)
Only the full metal version is acceptable. And the price of this (wheel + base Side) is so ridiculously high compared to other existing qr systems, it is embarassing. So glad I left that ecosystem 2 years ago!
its price will defenitally go down as its intigrated into the ecosystem as the years go on, but there is defenitaly some steep compitition!
At least, they have eliminated the weakest point of the fanatec hardware. And regarding price/quality ratio their wheels are without competition. @@JCRacing57
@JC Racing Is the QR2 compatible with the CSL Elite Steering Wheel Mclaren gt3 v2 (for xbox)? It looks similar to the one shown in this video but I am not 100% sure. If so, do i just buy the QR2 and thats it? or anything else needed to make it compatible?
Thanks!
yep! Thats the wheel i have, works for Xbox and PC
Do you not need both the QR2 wheel side and base side?
@@Dannykholden I think so
Thinking about getting this as my dd cal keeps disconnecting, like 1 month old im so mad lol
I don’t think that would fix it, could be a faulty USB C cable, I’d try a different one and see
Is the new QR 2 more Safe than previous QR1 and is this is more responsive ?
Idk what you mean by safe. It’s mainly a lot sturdier and ridged. No more side to side or up and down wiggle
@@JCRacing57 Safe means is this more safe from breaking pins of the connector
@@JCRacing57 And is this more responsive?
QR1 and CSL DD PRO core are not made of aluminum. This metal is similar to steel. It is very durable and reliable. QR2 is soft aluminum that is deformable and its price is $100, seriously. I have no problems with QR1..
I hear you and felt the same but upgraded my DD2 and my wheel to a QR2 pro and I will tell you it's a massive difference. It's like going from my CSW 2.5 to DD2 all over again. So much more fidelity and feel and I never noticed the flex in my QR1. If you have the coin spend the money
@@carownervirus4438 thats because ur not using QR1 screw, or there is something wrong with ur QR1 screw, there is no flexing in my QR1 at all, as long u use the screw
@@moncimoov The issue with QR1 is that it is not able to cope with variations in manufacturing tolerances. Some people like you have a QR1 setup that is rock solid but others have a QR1 that is a sloppy, noisy mess in comparison.
Mine is aforesaid sloppy mess, even with the screw torqued to the.point it's about to strip threads there is the slightest give. I also maintain the qr1 is not a quick release, if you need a tool, it ain't quick.
You should buy it...IF YOU CAN... IF THEY HAVE STOCK!!
lmao, yeah fanatec can be quite poor with stock and shipping times
@@JCRacing57 They said in their product release that they have plenty of stock on hand and yet a few days after release there's a one month wait for stock..lol
@@anthonylee5305 thats the fanatec experiance 😅😂
U happy with qr2 so far
Yes! Besides some scratching on the black wheel stem its perfect
@@JCRacing57does QR2 come fitted or come with the new 15NM on pre order? Also, I’m upgrading from g29 on Ps5. I’m really unsure if I should get 5nm for about €300 8NM for about €600 or the new 15NM for €1000. I don’t want to pay €1000 if it’s too much nm and I also don’t want to buy lower and not be enough. Any1 got any advice? I’d be annoyed if I buy 15NM and only have at 5NM.
bro should have used the money for the metal desk clamp
Really sorry but anyone who is talking about material flex while driving a table clamp on a wooden table is not a reliable source of information
On an FGT Elite now and it’s rock solid! But trust me I had that table clamp on TIGHT, and it was quite the thick desk as well, wasn’t going anywhere
O pay 20 nucks in black friday for usb c
no
then why are you here :P
You fanatec shills are hilarious, spend a little more money go with simagic or moza. You know wheel bases you can use with NRG quick releases. Just because bmw used it doesn’t mean it’s the best thing since slice bred
I’m not a shill, trust me Fanatec has its own issues, but Fanatec has a very large proportion of sim hardware sold, most people have had their DD1 / 2’s and CSL DD’s sense before Moza Racing even existed as a company. And this is a fantastic upgrade for those people, and a very rigid QR system that is one of if not the best in the sim market now.