I have 2 BPS knives. Both have excellent heavy leather sheaths that retain the knife well. Both have hex screws instead of the pins used by the DBK knife. They made a big mistake when they switched to the inferior pins.
The sheath on this one is nice and thick with good stitching. As far as the pins go I haven’t seen any looseness and I’ve done a good amount of batoning since buying the blade. I just try to keep the cons to the knife in perspective to the cost of the blade.
Great review! Looks really solid. Was very surprised on the dullness and the ferro rod. I have looked at BPS often and still may tackle one. I’ll pass on this one for sure
It’s still a solid knife for the price. Honestly I don’t care to strike my knives to a ferro rod but usually demonstrate it because many people do. The retention on the sheath is my only hang up. I was able to sharpen it pretty quickly so no real issue there.
The sheath on mine does the same thing and I bought it several months ago so it’s an ongoing issue. Doesn’t really bother me. Mine did come in very sharp so that’s a surprise. And it throws sparks. And the overall workmanship was pretty good for the price. I have two other models as well. The HK5 that I received is very nice.
Overall I really like it aside from the sheath issues. I was able to sharpen it up so no real issues there. Not throwing sparks is still complexing to me.
Just a suggestion-instead of putting a new hole in the retention strap, move the pin over about a half inch. Retention still isn’t great, but it’s better.
Thats weird mine strikes on a ferro, but i dont have that one ..i got the B1 1066 steel ..havent had a problem, i do however always have a stainless for a firecraft knife..i have the bs1 for fire crafting..works well ..
@@gimmedahhcookies4341 yeah, I'm not sure if it's maybe the heat treat or the spine just isn't sharp enough. I'd never seen a 90degree spine roll. I borrowed a friend's Adventurer in 1066 and it threw sparks well.
Everybody’s greatest criticism of this knife is the sheath and how easily the knife can be pulled out. which has nothing to do with whether the knife can fall out . the last time I checked most of my knives were vertical being worn and I’ve never had a knife fall out vertically even more so with the dangler on it. quite frankly, I think these criticisms for the most part are simply made up. I’ve never had a knife fall out in a vertical carry, whether it was a belt, knife attached or on a dangler.
The issue was quickly remedied with a quick paracord mod. But, the criticisms are not made up and the knife did fall out of the sheath while on a hike in thick bush. I don't carry the knife that often because I'm not a fan of the steel. Too soft. Thanks for checking out the video!
The knife does fall pit, especially for guys or ladies who go serious hikes through thick bush, or use them for work in wooded areas. A normal hike, is mostly fine, but if you move dynamically quite often, it will fall out sooner or later, especially as time goes by and the sheath begins to stretch out. I dint have this exact knife, but many like it, with the exact shealth. I hate these sheaths honestly, but that's because I move to much, climb, kneel, crawl, they get stuck on things, they snag, and the knife does fall out. I do understand I am not most people. The things I do are tge extreme of use, I live in the woods on a mountain, it's my life lol. I carry either horizontal or tight against my hip in a manner that won't be an issue. This can be solved though, you can tighten your shealth quite easily. Water or oil treatment will tighten it right up.
@@beentheredonethat5908 to be quite honest, I hardly ever carry this knife. I've have others in my collection I prefer to carry into the woods. Tops Tanimboca puukoo and Mora Garberg get the most rotation.
@@forestadventureswithscott8777 No I don't but a friend has the bushlore which is a great knife, I use the swamp romper and have no need of swapping it out. As a matter of interest I do have the mini bushlore and adore that knife, use it nearly every day.
I've seen pictures of sheath modification of moving the retention stud over down the leather about a full stud distance away take care of the retention part and you don't have to cut another hole in the strap where it snaps over the stud, so it doesn't show the modification when closed. I have this same knife and I still haven't decided on what to do about it yet but I am going to have to sharpen mine. I think for the spine, I'm going to use a card scraper burnisher to burnish the spine myself and maybe that might help with throwing sparks, haven't tried it yet though. I don't want to have to buy another sheath for it because it feels like such a waste of what seems like really good quality leather, I'd rather modify what it came with and make use of it. Just thought I'd share what I've seen others do already that fixed the problem. Last thing I'd mention about mine: I don't have AC in my house, just open up the windows for air at night and close them up when it starts to get warm for the day, and it's fine. But the humidity lately has been going between %55-70 and the knife, stored in the sheath, has been flash rusting. I've been using a Sandflex fine grit sand block (it's kinda like a grit impregnated rubber) to knock off the rust and does so without affecting the factory finish at all. I'm currently looking around for ways to treat the metal to where I won't have to deal with flash rust too much but not sure what would be best yet. I did wash the knife off one time so far when I first got it, and the wood handle scales have raised the grain. I didn't soak it in water, didn't leave it in water at all, and I didn't leave water on it - it was just washed and rinsed in the sink, and the dried immediately afterwards. So, I'm going to have to sand the handle scales to knock off the splintery fibers to keep them from poking my hand, and I'm going to have to treat the wood. I have thought about treating the raw side of the leather sheath on the insides as well. Might use Obenaufs for the leather and some boiled linseed oil for the handle scales. If you find a way to replace the rivets with the screws like the other BPS knives use, let us all know! :)
@@licustoms Lots of good info there. I have had a small amount of flash rust on the blade but nothing too bad. I typically don't store my carbon steel knives in their leather sheaths for that reason alone. My house stays pretty dry and I run a dehumidifier so not any humidity to speak of. I do like to hike and camp in light rain so I usually get my knives really dry before I do put them up for storage. Thanks for all the tips!
@@forestadventureswithscott8777 th-cam.com/video/aga9M7In05o/w-d-xo.html I found a video that shows the modification! Much easier than writing it out to see the simple change. Cheers and take care!
Needs a convex edge, in my opinion .the spine is too soft for fire , and maybe it was a dud .I have an adventure and a small one forgetting the name but strikes a rod great forro rod ,God bless you and your family and happy camping 🏕 🙏 😀 😊 👍. Lee
*The knife locking strap is incorrectly installed (in the wrong direction). Rotate 180°. Das exakt gleiche Messer funktioniert bei mir mit Feuerstahl einwandfrei.*
Good review and the same complaints every other person who reviewed this knife has. I don't see what's special about the design. It looks like almost every other small camp knife I have. I think the BPS Adventurer makes a lot better knife even if it's a bit longer. You should have tested the firesteel that came with it with the scraper on your other firesteel to see if the firesteel is any good. But you sponsored DBG (Dutch Bushcraft Girls) since they get 10% of every sale. And these girls must have seen these complaints but didn't take any action and neither did BPS. DBK only plays around in their backyard and their original knife wasn't even tested long term out in nature. They just imitated a BRK but since BRK didn't want to make it they went to TRC. TRC makes very good knives by themselves and I like them. But DBK is a no for me.
I hear ya. It’s not a bad knife at all. Rather good for the price. The sheath has its issues but not a deal breaker and I’ll do a short on how I remedied the retention problem. For someone who can’t afford the TRC version of the DBK design this is a good option imo.
@@forestadventureswithscott8777 I understand what you mean. I don't think the retention is fixed easily. But if you absolutely want a knife with some connection to the Dutch Bushcraft Girls (DBK) this is of course a cheaper option. But if you have to fix the sheath problem, if possible, or have to get another sheath the knife sheath combination suddenly isn't budget any more. Even when it comes to budget knives it has to perform out of the box. BPS has other models that fit that bill but even a Hultafors GK is much stronger, has better carbon steel, comes with a functional ok plastic sheath and is 5 times cheaper. You can buy a firesteel with a striker anywhere, like the one you used, and still keep money in your pocket.
I have multiple Moras that are cheaper, sharper and just better blades right out of the box. And I have ESSE’s, Helle’s & Tops knives that are double the price, or more, than the DBK designed BPS knife. Not trying to beat a dead horse but for $45 it’s a solid knife for that price. The sheath retention has been fixed with a simple paracord wrap and after spending maybe 30 minutes with a whetstone the knife is sharp. I typically don’t use my knives for striking ferro rods but like do it for demonstrations for videos so I’m not really upset with the spine edge rolling just as long as I can scrape fatwood or birch bark with it it’s all I need. As far as the DBK channel goes I just like to get a laugh out of those guys and see what trending in the bushcraft knife world. Cheers and have a good one!
@@forestadventureswithscott8777 I just don't like knives I have to 'repair' right out of the box. And when you actually go out in the bush the sheath is very important. The difference between having your knife or having lost it. So if everybody, including you, gives it a bad review it's most likely a shit knife. The other BPS knives usually get a good review so how did these two 'desingners' even manage to fuck it up? Because they have no bush experience. They don't test the knives themselves or have anybody else with experience test them in the bush. I admit their channel can be funny but I don't buy knives from clowns. And that's what they are. So for people on a budget I say it's ok to buy a BPS knife just not this one. And also don't understand why you are making excuses for these girls.
@@StevanOutdoor what is your deal? your criticisms of the knife seem pretty valid but your misogyny here isn't even just casual, it's aggressive. I mean, unless you are willing to hear people tee off on you for being a dumpy, overweight boomer instead of engaging with the subject at hand? But no, I think I'll just stick to thanking you for pointing out the flaws in the product. You know, instead of harping on about you on a personal level in a really weird, aggressive way that's unwarranted.
Also, I think the DBK channel is VERY entertaining compared to most other bland knife reviewers. Yes, they can be over the top but they are quite creative.
Awful knives, you could buy three mora robust knives for the same price, well in the UK anyway. I'm not influenced by the Ukraine, Russia propaganda when purchasing a knife. In my experience the steel used for making these knives is awful, utter rust buckets.
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I have 2 BPS knives. Both have excellent heavy leather sheaths that retain the knife well. Both have hex screws instead of the pins used by the DBK knife. They made a big mistake when they switched to the inferior pins.
The sheath on this one is nice and thick with good stitching. As far as the pins go I haven’t seen any looseness and I’ve done a good amount of batoning since buying the blade. I just try to keep the cons to the knife in perspective to the cost of the blade.
From the complete BPS line of knives this is the worst. It's garbage actually
Great review! Looks really solid. Was very surprised on the dullness and the ferro rod. I have looked at BPS often and still may tackle one. I’ll pass on this one for sure
It’s still a solid knife for the price. Honestly I don’t care to strike my knives to a ferro rod but usually demonstrate it because many people do. The retention on the sheath is my only hang up. I was able to sharpen it pretty quickly so no real issue there.
When the girls (DBK) tested that knife they broke the tip off so it's not solid.
The sheath on mine does the same thing and I bought it several months ago so it’s an ongoing issue. Doesn’t really bother me. Mine did come in very sharp so that’s a surprise. And it throws sparks. And the overall workmanship was pretty good for the price. I have two other models as well. The HK5 that I received is very nice.
Overall I really like it aside from the sheath issues. I was able to sharpen it up so no real issues there. Not throwing sparks is still complexing to me.
Mine could barely cut wood when new. With the regrind, it is much better, but it was a significant amount of work to fix.
Yeah, I spent a significant amount of time sharpening the V edge. Did you give it a convex? I saw a TH-cam video where someone did that.
@@forestadventureswithscott8777 that might have been me. I completely re-ground it. To make the edge very thin.
Sounds like my Benchmade Bushcrafter, but haven't gotten around to reprofiling the blade yet.....stock blade geometry sucks
I had the same issues; thus, I returned it. The second I purchased worked fine as far as throwing sparks and leather sheet retention
I wish I had of returned mine when the opportunity was there. I don't carry at all but I think my son will get some good use out of it. Cheers
Just a suggestion-instead of putting a new hole in the retention strap, move the pin over about a half inch. Retention still isn’t great, but it’s better.
Thanks for the tip! I haven’t modified it yet so I’ll keep that in mind.
Great review on the knife🔪🗡
Thanks. I enjoyed making the video.
Thats weird mine strikes on a ferro, but i dont have that one ..i got the B1 1066 steel ..havent had a problem, i do however always have a stainless for a firecraft knife..i have the bs1 for fire crafting..works well ..
@@gimmedahhcookies4341 yeah, I'm not sure if it's maybe the heat treat or the spine just isn't sharp enough. I'd never seen a 90degree spine roll. I borrowed a friend's Adventurer in 1066 and it threw sparks well.
Everybody’s greatest criticism of this knife is the sheath and how easily the knife can be pulled out. which has nothing to do with whether the knife can fall out .
the last time I checked most of my knives were vertical being worn and I’ve never had a knife fall out vertically even more so with the dangler on it. quite frankly, I think these criticisms for the most part are simply made up.
I’ve never had a knife fall out in a vertical carry, whether it was a belt, knife attached or on a dangler.
The issue was quickly remedied with a quick paracord mod. But, the criticisms are not made up and the knife did fall out of the sheath while on a hike in thick bush. I don't carry the knife that often because I'm not a fan of the steel. Too soft. Thanks for checking out the video!
The knife does fall pit, especially for guys or ladies who go serious hikes through thick bush, or use them for work in wooded areas. A normal hike, is mostly fine, but if you move dynamically quite often, it will fall out sooner or later, especially as time goes by and the sheath begins to stretch out.
I dint have this exact knife, but many like it, with the exact shealth. I hate these sheaths honestly, but that's because I move to much, climb, kneel, crawl, they get stuck on things, they snag, and the knife does fall out.
I do understand I am not most people. The things I do are tge extreme of use, I live in the woods on a mountain, it's my life lol. I carry either horizontal or tight against my hip in a manner that won't be an issue.
This can be solved though, you can tighten your shealth quite easily. Water or oil treatment will tighten it right up.
@@beentheredonethat5908 to be quite honest, I hardly ever carry this knife. I've have others in my collection I prefer to carry into the woods. Tops Tanimboca puukoo and Mora Garberg get the most rotation.
Fantastic review there but it would not sway me from buying another Condor, health to you.
I’ve been eyeing both the Bushlore and the indigenous puukko for awhile now. Do you have either?
@@forestadventureswithscott8777 No I don't but a friend has the bushlore which is a great knife, I use the swamp romper and have no need of swapping it out. As a matter of interest I do have the mini bushlore and adore that knife, use it nearly every day.
I've seen pictures of sheath modification of moving the retention stud over down the leather about a full stud distance away take care of the retention part and you don't have to cut another hole in the strap where it snaps over the stud, so it doesn't show the modification when closed. I have this same knife and I still haven't decided on what to do about it yet but I am going to have to sharpen mine. I think for the spine, I'm going to use a card scraper burnisher to burnish the spine myself and maybe that might help with throwing sparks, haven't tried it yet though. I don't want to have to buy another sheath for it because it feels like such a waste of what seems like really good quality leather, I'd rather modify what it came with and make use of it. Just thought I'd share what I've seen others do already that fixed the problem.
Last thing I'd mention about mine: I don't have AC in my house, just open up the windows for air at night and close them up when it starts to get warm for the day, and it's fine. But the humidity lately has been going between %55-70 and the knife, stored in the sheath, has been flash rusting. I've been using a Sandflex fine grit sand block (it's kinda like a grit impregnated rubber) to knock off the rust and does so without affecting the factory finish at all. I'm currently looking around for ways to treat the metal to where I won't have to deal with flash rust too much but not sure what would be best yet. I did wash the knife off one time so far when I first got it, and the wood handle scales have raised the grain. I didn't soak it in water, didn't leave it in water at all, and I didn't leave water on it - it was just washed and rinsed in the sink, and the dried immediately afterwards. So, I'm going to have to sand the handle scales to knock off the splintery fibers to keep them from poking my hand, and I'm going to have to treat the wood. I have thought about treating the raw side of the leather sheath on the insides as well. Might use Obenaufs for the leather and some boiled linseed oil for the handle scales. If you find a way to replace the rivets with the screws like the other BPS knives use, let us all know! :)
@@licustoms Lots of good info there. I have had a small amount of flash rust on the blade but nothing too bad. I typically don't store my carbon steel knives in their leather sheaths for that reason alone. My house stays pretty dry and I run a dehumidifier so not any humidity to speak of. I do like to hike and camp in light rain so I usually get my knives really dry before I do put them up for storage. Thanks for all the tips!
@@forestadventureswithscott8777 th-cam.com/video/aga9M7In05o/w-d-xo.html I found a video that shows the modification! Much easier than writing it out to see the simple change. Cheers and take care!
Wow. All the bps knives I got were sharp. Maybe it's cause it's dbk?
Needs a convex edge, in my opinion .the spine is too soft for fire , and maybe it was a dud .I have an adventure and a small one forgetting the name but strikes a rod great forro rod ,God bless you and your family and happy camping 🏕 🙏 😀 😊 👍. Lee
I’ve heard of a few people putting a convex on it. Might look into it myself. Thanks for the tip.
The sheath on mine is lock tight, without the strap closed it passes the upside down and shake the beans out of it test. 🙃
That’s great. I read that they have tightened up the retention since their early runs.
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*The knife locking strap is incorrectly installed (in the wrong direction). Rotate 180°. Das exakt gleiche Messer funktioniert bei mir mit Feuerstahl einwandfrei.*
Nothing unusual...Apokalypse knives for 500 bucks have no 90 degrees spine too..no problem to have firestriker with
That is one hard firesteel, lol!
Good review and the same complaints every other person who reviewed this knife has. I don't see what's special about the design. It looks like almost every other small camp knife I have. I think the BPS Adventurer makes a lot better knife even if it's a bit longer. You should have tested the firesteel that came with it with the scraper on your other firesteel to see if the firesteel is any good. But you sponsored DBG (Dutch Bushcraft Girls) since they get 10% of every sale. And these girls must have seen these complaints but didn't take any action and neither did BPS. DBK only plays around in their backyard and their original knife wasn't even tested long term out in nature. They just imitated a BRK but since BRK didn't want to make it they went to TRC. TRC makes very good knives by themselves and I like them. But DBK is a no for me.
I hear ya. It’s not a bad knife at all. Rather good for the price. The sheath has its issues but not a deal breaker and I’ll do a short on how I remedied the retention problem. For someone who can’t afford the TRC version of the DBK design this is a good option imo.
@@forestadventureswithscott8777 I understand what you mean. I don't think the retention is fixed easily. But if you absolutely want a knife with some connection to the Dutch Bushcraft Girls (DBK) this is of course a cheaper option. But if you have to fix the sheath problem, if possible, or have to get another sheath the knife sheath combination suddenly isn't budget any more. Even when it comes to budget knives it has to perform out of the box. BPS has other models that fit that bill but even a Hultafors GK is much stronger, has better carbon steel, comes with a functional ok plastic sheath and is 5 times cheaper. You can buy a firesteel with a striker anywhere, like the one you used, and still keep money in your pocket.
I have multiple Moras that are cheaper, sharper and just better blades right out of the box. And I have ESSE’s, Helle’s & Tops knives that are double the price, or more, than the DBK designed BPS knife. Not trying to beat a dead horse but for $45 it’s a solid knife for that price. The sheath retention has been fixed with a simple paracord wrap and after spending maybe 30 minutes with a whetstone the knife is sharp. I typically don’t use my knives for striking ferro rods but like do it for demonstrations for videos so I’m not really upset with the spine edge rolling just as long as I can scrape fatwood or birch bark with it it’s all I need. As far as the DBK channel goes I just like to get a laugh out of those guys and see what trending in the bushcraft knife world. Cheers and have a good one!
@@forestadventureswithscott8777 I just don't like knives I have to 'repair' right out of the box. And when you actually go out in the bush the sheath is very important. The difference between having your knife or having lost it. So if everybody, including you, gives it a bad review it's most likely a shit knife.
The other BPS knives usually get a good review so how did these two 'desingners' even manage to fuck it up? Because they have no bush experience. They don't test the knives themselves or have anybody else with experience test them in the bush. I admit their channel can be funny but I don't buy knives from clowns. And that's what they are.
So for people on a budget I say it's ok to buy a BPS knife just not this one. And also don't understand why you are making excuses for these girls.
@@StevanOutdoor what is your deal? your criticisms of the knife seem pretty valid but your misogyny here isn't even just casual, it's aggressive. I mean, unless you are willing to hear people tee off on you for being a dumpy, overweight boomer instead of engaging with the subject at hand? But no, I think I'll just stick to thanking you for pointing out the flaws in the product. You know, instead of harping on about you on a personal level in a really weird, aggressive way that's unwarranted.
DBK reminds me of dumb and dumber!
Hahaha, I could see that but I do like watching their reviews.
@@1800moonSugar I didn't know I had an obligation to do anything for the knife community.I thought all of this was voluntary.
Also, I think the DBK channel is VERY entertaining compared to most other bland knife reviewers. Yes, they can be over the top but they are quite creative.
..😂😂Lmao, that's funny. I be watching their funny antics.
Awful knives, you could buy three mora robust knives for the same price, well in the UK anyway. I'm not influenced by the Ukraine, Russia propaganda when purchasing a knife. In my experience the steel used for making these knives is awful, utter rust buckets.