Disney has no excuse whatsoever for the train wreck that ended up being Wish’s script. The original concept for the movie was actually quite interesting, with the star shapeshifter love interest and the king/queen villain duo. I would’ve LOVED a married Disney villain power couple. The fact that the original concept was rejected in favor of a preachy, illogical mess that called the heroic king the villain and the self-centered brat the hero is appalling. And the CGI looked like something from the early 2000s.
I'm not sold on the shapeshifting star love interest, but it sounds more interesting then what we got. I can see why they decided to drop it, though. I don't think the star being a love interest would've made much of a difference. Since the King's unreasonable wish keeping and the loss of wishes were the core concepts. In my opinion, a love story would've detracted even more from the badly thought out main concept - wish granting and magic - and felt more like filler to cover it up. But I'm not familiar with the original idea, so I can't say how important of a key role the love interest would've played. The married villain couple sounds cool and interesting. Gives off Disney-esque Bonnie and Clyde vibes. Which reminds me, I forgot to mention how bothered I was by how quickly the queen betrayed her husband and teamed up with a bunch of random kids to take him down. She wasn't very torn about it either. I was expecting her to have an inner conflict about it but at the end, she even seemed happy. Almost, as if she had finally managed to escaped an abusive relationship. Their relationship really felt off to me at the end there. Thanks for watching. I appreciate the comment.
@@Rebel_Rewrite That’s fair. Personally, I prefer the idea of the star shapeshifter romance, because love stories are such a vital part of Disney’s history. If Wish wants to claim to be a centennial celebration of Disney, I think paying tribute to their love stories is very important. But I couldn't agree more about the queen in the movie. I hated how she stabbed her husband in the back and couldn’t have cared less about saving him. The movie tried to claim that using the evil book even once would damn a person forever, but that made no sense at all. What the queen should’ve done was assume the book was lying (it was a book of evil after all) and fight to get the man she loved back. Disney’s history is big on saying that true love’s kiss is powerful enough to break any curse. How cool would it have been to have the VILLAIN, instead of a princess, saved by true love’s kiss?
That's a good point. Going back to the roots and paying homage to the classic, princess love stories could've been the right play here. Adding a novel twist like saving the villain instead of defeating and imprisoning him and you have an interesting new take on a classic story. Asha, the shapeshifting love interest, and the queen could've teamed up and tried to free Magnifico from the corruption of the book to save Rosas. With a scenario like this, further tension can be added if Asha secretly didn't believe in saving the King, and planned to betray the queen, should the opportunity arise. A movie like that could've been a great new gateway movie into classic fairy tales for a new generation while being novel, and nostalgic, for older generations.
I just though the main character was selfish. She got upset because he wouldn't grant her grandad wish and thats it . I think the King not granting some wishs because it might dangerous is a valid reason. The sudden turn of the King becoming evil was poorly executed.
Yeah, if the king's promises are to grant one wish a month and protect his kingdom, how is he supposed to protect them if there's a chance of endangering them for a dangerous/non-specific wish? Having so many lives under your responsibility is terrible, and even more so if you decide to take unnecessary risks...
How interesting there’s the comparison between Aladdin and Wish considering that Peter Jöback as the Swedish voice of Aladdin from the 90s made his return as the Swedish voice of King Magnifico.
You’re welcome and he got his wish granted for still being popular in Sweden as Aladdin, becoming a singer, playing musicals in United States and in England. Now he’s got a whole new Disney role 30 years later after Aladdin. He had so much fun playing Magnifico in Swedish 🇸🇪 and it took him one month for recording all songs and scenes that it’s now his favourite character. 😉
Also make the goat an actual character with actual jokes. Maybe he could of been the voice of reason like Sebastain was with Ariel or have him struggle with his new found awakening.
I knew I it was a generic story line from the moment I saw the trailer. Overly abusive greedy villain, not really fleshed out main character protagonists
I agree with a lot of your complaints about underdeveloped concepts such as Wish's underdeveloped magic system, lack of world-building, and poor characterization. I blame that on the movie's bad pacing. It was BLAZING fast. They wanted to fill in the gaps with songs, not plot development. -The people of Rosas are shown to be dancing, jubilant, and happy. There's no sign that this king is treating them terribly. There's no underlying current of misery or any subtle sign of a dysfunctional society. The worst he's doing is refusing to grant people's wishes, which actually makes sense given that there could be wishes that are dangerous, lethal, or otherwise negative. So, where's the problem? -They probably mention her dad twice in the movie, although he's talked about as if he was an important person in Asha's life. Why not explore her relationship with her dad? -The Star (who's quite squishy and cute like Kirby) is a threat to King Magnifico's power because he can also produce magic like Magnifico does. What dictates who's capable of producing magic in this setting? How does one learn how to become a wizard, or is a person simply born with magical powers? Why does simply looking into this magic book poison King Magnifico and turn him into flipping Lex Luthor? Why not show more of how the movie's magic system works? -King Magnifico is established to have had some signs of childhood trauma. They also show a tapestry that showed his hometown's destruction. What wish was granted that led to the destruction of his childhood hometown? How does that influence his obsession with not granting wishes out of some paranoia about the potential threat of granting every wish? Why not show more of this guy's background? -What the heck happened to the king? Why is he suddenly so narcissistic after a meeting with Rosa's townsfolk? Why is he suddenly so mean-spirited toward his wife in the last 30 min of the movie, when he had been treating her with respect the whole movie? Why not establish these bad character traits earlier on in the movie? All of these problems could've been resolved and all of these questions could've been answered with better pacing. One can't even say it was a casualty of the SAG-AFTRA and WGA (aka the Hollywood writer and actor) strikes because the production times of Across the Spider-Verse, Barbie, Ninja Turtles, Mario, and even Pixar's own Elemental coincided with the strikes, too. Those all did fine, overall. It almost makes me wonder if the movie was rushed out, maybe to meet Disney's 100th anniversary.
I appreciate your perspective on the issues you highlighted, but I disagree. I don't think these problems are directly related to the pacing of the story. The issues with Wish's underdeveloped magic system, lack of world-building, and poor characterization stem from the narrative structure and script development rather than the speed at which the plot unfolds. Here’s why: *World-Building and Magic System* : The movie's fast pacing contributes to a feeling of rushing through the story, but the real issue lies in the lack of detailed exposition and coherent rules for the magic system. World-building requires effort and integration into the plot, not just more screen time. The movie failed to implement its magic elements naturally into the narrative, regardless of pacing. *Characterization* : Developing characters, such as exploring Asha's relationship with her father or King Magnifico's background and motivations, depends on the quality of the script and the depth given to these characters. The movie is missing strategic flashbacks and character interactions necessary for the audience to gain the needed insight. *King Magnifico’s Transformation* : King Magnifico's abrupt change points to inconsistent character development rather than a pacing issue. Proper foreshadowing is the culprit, not the pacing framework. Effective storytelling ensures characters are believable and gradually develop. This is a matter of scriptwriting, not pacing. *Plot Development vs. Songs* : The decision to prioritize songs over plot development is a creative choice. It impacts how the story feels but doesn't inherently relate to pacing. The overuse of songs to supplement missing plot and character development resulted in a rushed pace due to missing context. In summary, while a slower pace or longer runtime might have provided more time to explore these elements, the core issue is how the existing time and narrative devices were badly constructed. Better integration of world-building, character backstories, and consistent character development are the actual culprits, regardless of the pacing. I also don't think the strike was the main reason. But it's possible that it influenced Wish's post-production phase. Even then, the influence would have been marginal, unless they pointed out it was crap and had to be reworked from the ground up. Thanks for watching and commenting.
I am not sure if wish was agenda driven or just a lazy "just for the sake of aniversary" project. I don't usually care about the visuals, but I atleast want a engaging storyline... honestly... you are right on alot of points... but for some reason I kinda want this movie to be a "bad ending scenario". They could've gone and made the movie in the way as "Asha wanting to set free the wishes for the people's sake" and then when magnifico gets captured we get a scene of realization, where magnifico gives out a "I told you so" speech. Magnifico could've been potrayed as a flawed king, who meant to do right, but got desperate at a sign of danger. The whole consuming wishes for magic is a great idea and Magnifico would have the outright evil and very darksided wishes as his main powersource, because he wanted to re-write and grant the vague or questionable wish in a way that would not only make a person happy, but also benefit the kingdom's peace. The book could've been sentient and give out faint whispers that go louder with each evil wish consumed. Only once magnifico runs out of evil wishes and the books voice is almost omnipresently loud he would consider taking the less incriminating wishes. then again I am probably trying to fix damage that is already done and ranting on a great youtube video that does what I am doing now probably better.
Regarding Disney's typical release schedule, they often aim for Thanksgiving/Christmas releases, tapping into the holiday season's family-oriented audience. This time around was the centennial anniversary and the producers intended to incorporate the wish-granting-theme for which Disney is known for. They just failed to create a compelling story and the movie ended up feeling *forced* to me. While a bad ending might not align with Disney's usual fare, introducing a darker turn in the middle of the movie - releasing all wishes and creating a chaos where laws of physics, and whatnot, were broken - could add tension and depth to the story without necessarily compromising its overall family-friendly appeal. The idea of Asha and the King being forced to work together as they strive to undo the chaos could create compelling character dynamics. The concept of the book whispering ominous thoughts is a great idea. Making it an ancient evil wizard's powerful tome, which starts out as a helpful companion but turns out to control it’s user, could’ve been a great twist. A plot device like a power hungry book that needs to consume wishes to grant wishes, could’ve also been interesting. When the King runs out of *bad* wishes to sacrifice, he’s forced to feed the book *vague* wishes, and eventually *good* wishes, but nothing helps to keep the whispers from becoming louder. This wouldn't just solve Magnifico's abrupt transition into a villain but provides a reason for him to collect and keep the wishes in the first place as well. Thanks for watching and I appreciate the thoughtful comment.
I'm glad you enjoyed my video. I am fully aware that criticizing someone else's work comes across as audacious and wanting to *improve* on it, may be perceived as insolent. But that is never my intention. I will praise the aspects I enjoy but I'm not afraid to point out what I dislike and why. I try to stay objective, provide constructive criticism, and not simply hate on someone else's efforts. My goal is to offer insights for improvement. The most important thing for me is explaining why I dislike certain plot points, or characters, etc, and provide a different - although, subjective - take on it. First and Foremost, I do it to improve my own abilities and foster my own growth. I create and post these videos online because I'm curious to know what other people think. I'm particularly interested to see if there a discrepancy between what I thought and how other people perceived it. If there are differences, I want to understand if it's an oversight or lack of insight, on my part. I made a video about Transformers 7 - Rise of the Beasts a while back and thought people would agree with my viewpoints. They didn't. The video was downvoted a lot, but nobody commented on it saying I was wrong either. I'm still not sure what the issue with that one was. WIthout feedback I'm unable to tell if I am in the wrong , if perhaps the video was badly produced, or simply recommend to the wrong people by the algorithm. Anyway, thanks for commenting. I appreciate the engagement.
They implementation of Super Mario Games into actual plot points in the movie (Super Smash Bros., Mario Kart, Jumpman, etc.) gave the movie an additional level of depth. Honestly, I was expecting something similar in Wish, but it turned out ot be such a let down. There are a few Easter Eggs, like; Magnifico will become the mirror on the wall in snow white, and then there is a Peter Pan looking adult who wants to fly. Also, I think Asha is supposed to be a new iteration of cinderella's fairy godmother. But the Easter Eggs are too subtlety hinted at and easily missed.
There are 6 voice actors of King Magnifico who also voiced a character in The Super Mario Bros Movie: - Raphael Rossatto: Mario & Magnifico in Brazilian Portuguese 🇧🇷 - Máté Szabó: Toad & Magnifico in Hungarian 🇭🇺 - Uroš Buh: Toad & Magnifico in Slovenian 🇸🇮 - Christos Thanos: Donkey Kong & Magnifico in Greek 🇬🇷 - Kenneth Christensen: Donkey Kong & Magnifico in Danish 🇩🇰 - Jeppe Beck Laursen: Bowser & Magnifico in Norwegian 🇳🇴
Voice actors are often used multiple times for various roles. American voice actor Christopher Sabat for example has been in many popular anime that have aired from the year 2000 onward.
@@Rebel_Rewrite True but it depends on the voice director’s decision. For example, France went with French actor Lambert Wilson from The Matrix movies and Mrs. Harris Goes To Paris. He played in English then dubbed himself in French but even if he looks like Magnifico, his voice doesn’t fit at all that I cringed from both of his speaking and singing voice! Oh how I wished they would brought back iconic Disney voices or an actual voice actor who would fit better for Magnifico. As for Asha’s French voice, she’s the perfect cast and for her first time role in voice acting, Océane Demontis did an excellent work. 😉
I agree with most of your points, except for your note about Magnifico being good-natured and having the best interest of his people at heart at 5:50. Magnifico is an obvious narcissist, but he only seems benevolent at first because the people aren't questioning or challenging him in anyway. The first time he's questioned even a little bit he snaps and says he gets to decide. If he does anything nice for the people, it's only because he needs their undying loyalty and gratitude. He even quantifies that in his song about how many wishes he granted, as if to say "this amount seems just right to get the love and admiration I need from the people." If he really cared about them, he'd be granting wishes daily, at least the ones he deemed wouldn't be detrimental to Rosas. The movie isn't super clear on this, but I wonder if Magnifico knew that taking the wishes was causing people to feel like they've lost a part of themselves (at least at the beginning before he used the plot device book). On another point, I also found it annoying that the movie made it seem like the people were all living their best lives, except for Simon. He's the only character that seems to be suffering, though that may be because the focus is on the 7 characters under 18, except Simon who has lost his wish when he turned 18. Another glaring issue is the grandfather's wish. They clearly state the grandfather is 100 years old, but Magnifico looks to be in his 40s. When Magnifico either became king or figured out magic, did he round up everybody over 18 and collect all their wishes in bulk? Depending on when Magnifico started this, that was probably sometime in the last 20 years, so Sabino would have been 80 or older. For 80 years he never bothered to fulfill his own wish to inspire young people, which is just ridiculous. Even if somehow he would have figured it out in those 20 years, you'd think his wife or the other people in town would know what Sabino wanted to do with his life. Heck, I know that the person at Kroger I see a couple times a month has a kid and wants to be a nurse. You'd think a small town would have everybody knowing what their neighbors dreams are. Ryan George had a joke in his Pitch Meeting video about nobody ever writing down their wishes or telling anybody else about them before they're taken. Even if it didn't occur to somebody to write down their wishes in a normal situation, you'd think you'd write it down when you knew it would disappear as soon as you turned 18 and the king took it, at least from talking to other people who had that happen to them. Maybe an unmentioned rule of the magic is you can't talk about or write down your wish or it'll never come true.
My wording in the video was poor. I made Magnifico sound more caring than he was, but his motivation was to prevent the same tragedy he suffered as a child from happening again. What really bothered me about him was that he had no narcissistic tendencies at first and seemingly acquired them on a whim once questioned. The transition wasn't gradual; it felt abrupt and forced to me. If the movie had made it clear that he wasn't doing it for the good of the people but that he wanted to primarily protect himself-being self-absorbed-by policing others, I would've been okay with it. In one frame in the movie at around 1:21:05, right when Magnifico was imprisoned in the crystal, you see a mask resembling the magic mirror from Snow White. I assume that's the reason he was almost forced to develop narcissistic tendencies to create that Easter egg. I did not perceive him as a well-rounded character but rather one that was changed to fit the part when needed. Asha lived with her Grandfather and Mother all her life, and with her father until he died. Therefore, if losing a wish made them so depressed or sad, wouldn't Asha have noticed that? You could even make a counter-argument here that forgetting your wish and the worries that come along with it will help you lead a long life. After all, Saba made it all the way to 100. The last two points are excellent. I'd guess Magnifico's age to be around 50-55+, but regardless of his age, Saba would've been 65 at the lowest when Rosa's was established. That means he spent a large portion of his life pursuing his dream before giving it up willingly. If you're a parent, wouldn't you know about your child's wish or have a vague idea what it might be? The only explanation I can think of is that the wish is magically removed from everyone once it is handed over. I appreciate the comment and the insight. Thank you for watching.
I don’t even bother to remember the protagonist name. She is so boring. Your main character or characters should never be boring nor unforgettable. Even a bad character is better cause you can remember them. It’s boring/forgettable characters that are the worse. They make me feel nothing about them.
It's important to create characters that resonate with the audience. Asha was no different than any of the other forgettable background characters. Thank you for sharing your thoughts.
Yeah, what a lousy movie. And the movie's defenders are making lame points in a childlike viewpoint. They can't possibly think that such a childish teenager who blew a tantrum because the king told her no for asking for her grandpa's wish is the hero of the story. Her character arc sucked, no development, no charm, no anything.
It's sad to see after 100 years of being in the business and with a huge budget at their disposal, Wish is the best they can come up with. Thanks for commenting.
@@Rebel_Rewrite yeah, anytime. I'm just so disappointed with the movie's execution and direction. It totally sucks. And it totally bothers me that people who do love this movie are delusional over the plot line and soundtrack. Disney is just trying to gaslight us into thinking which is lesser of two evils or something.
I'm really curious to konw what the people who worked on this (animators, marketing dept, etc.) thought about the movie, because at some point they had to realize that it's trash. Somehow everybody just seemed to have accepted the fact and continued polishing the turd, as they say.
@@Rebel_Rewrite yeah, they act as if they're proud of it being a masterpiece when really it's not. They ought to be embarrassed that not too many people like this piece of crap.
I didn’t enjoy the movie. And the people who enjoys it, be my guest. The movie is terrible in the worst of ways. Asha who is the antagonist of the film couldn’t accept no for an answer. Not only that, she has the audacity to convinced the queen that her husband is evil. Which btw, why Amaya sided with Asha?? Amaya should know her husband more than this entitled brat. Plus, Asha left out a very, VERY important detail to her generic friends when Magnifico told her his tragic story. You know, the almost burnt tapestry as a reminder; where the king was just a wee boy and lost his parents by selfish and greedy people and burn everything into the ground. Yeah, Asha left that whole info and never brought it up. And Amaya too, surprisingly.
I'm blaming the writers for not being able to write an interesting story. I never blamed the artists. I even praised Chris Pine for giving a good voice over performance.
Now that Wish is on Disney+ aswell of the confirmation during the end credits: After Peter Jöback the Swedish voice of Aladdin as King Magnifico, Jannike Kruse the Norwegian voice of Jasmine from Aladdin in the 90s also made her return as the Norwegian voice as Queen Amaya so it’s like Aladdin & Jasmine got both their whole new wish granted with a royal transition from Agrabah to Rosas. 🧞♂️⭐️
@@Rebel_Rewrite Hopefully with better written story and new characters who would be more important and useful into their role. Jannike Kruse is also celebrating her 30th anniversary of animated dubbing and it’s great that she’s got a new Disney role in Norwegian many years later! 🇳🇴
i just felt like this movie was too rushed i am so happy in the last few days of 2023 i got to see wonka instead of this mvie at the cinema. whil wonka on the other hand wasn't rsuhed at all
Wonka was everything Wish should've been. Heartwarming story, good characters, simple plot, good visuals and music. I saw a few reviews complain about Wonka that there's not enough of a connection to the old Wonka (Charlie and the chocolate factory, 1971) which makes no sense. It's a new take on the story for a new generation of children, not a continuation of a story targeted at ~50 year old adults. Thanks for watching and commenting.
I agree and disagree with that statement. Watching the same thing over and over again is boring, but it also depends on how memorable the plot is. Charlie and the chocolate factory is very unique. It was rebooted in 2005, therefore an *updated* version to watch is available. Rebooting such an updated version in 2023 doesn't make much sense. But there are other instances where periodically updating a movie makes sense. One example I can think of is the latest iteration of A Star Is Born, starring Lady Gaga and Bradley Cooper. The original is from 1937. It was rebooted with respectively contemporary popular actors in 1954, then in 1976, and lastly in 2018. Another one might be made in ~2045. And then there are monster movies like Godzilla. The plot or premise never changes but it's still always popular.
Disney has no excuse whatsoever for the train wreck that ended up being Wish’s script. The original concept for the movie was actually quite interesting, with the star shapeshifter love interest and the king/queen villain duo. I would’ve LOVED a married Disney villain power couple. The fact that the original concept was rejected in favor of a preachy, illogical mess that called the heroic king the villain and the self-centered brat the hero is appalling. And the CGI looked like something from the early 2000s.
I'm not sold on the shapeshifting star love interest, but it sounds more interesting then what we got. I can see why they decided to drop it, though. I don't think the star being a love interest would've made much of a difference. Since the King's unreasonable wish keeping and the loss of wishes were the core concepts.
In my opinion, a love story would've detracted even more from the badly thought out main concept - wish granting and magic - and felt more like filler to cover it up.
But I'm not familiar with the original idea, so I can't say how important of a key role the love interest would've played.
The married villain couple sounds cool and interesting. Gives off Disney-esque Bonnie and Clyde vibes. Which reminds me, I forgot to mention how bothered I was by how quickly the queen betrayed her husband and teamed up with a bunch of random kids to take him down. She wasn't very torn about it either. I was expecting her to have an inner conflict about it but at the end, she even seemed happy. Almost, as if she had finally managed to escaped an abusive relationship. Their relationship really felt off to me at the end there.
Thanks for watching. I appreciate the comment.
@@Rebel_Rewrite That’s fair. Personally, I prefer the idea of the star shapeshifter romance, because love stories are such a vital part of Disney’s history. If Wish wants to claim to be a centennial celebration of Disney, I think paying tribute to their love stories is very important.
But I couldn't agree more about the queen in the movie. I hated how she stabbed her husband in the back and couldn’t have cared less about saving him. The movie tried to claim that using the evil book even once would damn a person forever, but that made no sense at all. What the queen should’ve done was assume the book was lying (it was a book of evil after all) and fight to get the man she loved back. Disney’s history is big on saying that true love’s kiss is powerful enough to break any curse. How cool would it have been to have the VILLAIN, instead of a princess, saved by true love’s kiss?
That's a good point. Going back to the roots and paying homage to the classic, princess love stories could've been the right play here. Adding a novel twist like saving the villain instead of defeating and imprisoning him and you have an interesting new take on a classic story.
Asha, the shapeshifting love interest, and the queen could've teamed up and tried to free Magnifico from the corruption of the book to save Rosas. With a scenario like this, further tension can be added if Asha secretly didn't believe in saving the King, and planned to betray the queen, should the opportunity arise.
A movie like that could've been a great new gateway movie into classic fairy tales for a new generation while being novel, and nostalgic, for older generations.
I just though the main character was selfish. She got upset because he wouldn't grant her grandad wish and thats it . I think the King not granting some wishs because it might dangerous is a valid reason. The sudden turn of the King becoming evil was poorly executed.
Yes, she was very selfish. Her grandfather never asked for his wish to come true. She decided that on her own. Thanks for watching and commenting.
Yeah, if the king's promises are to grant one wish a month and protect his kingdom, how is he supposed to protect them if there's a chance of endangering them for a dangerous/non-specific wish? Having so many lives under your responsibility is terrible, and even more so if you decide to take unnecessary risks...
How interesting there’s the comparison between Aladdin and Wish considering that Peter Jöback as the Swedish voice of Aladdin from the 90s made his return as the Swedish voice of King Magnifico.
Interesting coincidence. Maybe Peter Jöback likes wishes. Thanks for commenting.
You’re welcome and he got his wish granted for still being popular in Sweden as Aladdin, becoming a singer, playing musicals in United States and in England. Now he’s got a whole new Disney role 30 years later after Aladdin. He had so much fun playing Magnifico in Swedish 🇸🇪 and it took him one month for recording all songs and scenes that it’s now his favourite character. 😉
Asha is my favorite disney villain
She's right up there with Jafar and Scar. 😂
Ooh, sick burn! Guess Disney didn't expect that, huh? Woof! 😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣
Also make the goat an actual character with actual jokes. Maybe he could of been the voice of reason like Sebastain was with Ariel or have him struggle with his new found awakening.
The goat and the star were both wasted character opportunities, in addition to her 6 random friends. Thanks for commenting.
Wish is the type of movie youll forget about a week after its released 💀💀
Very true. The forgettable movie title doesn't help either. Thanks for commenting.
@@Rebel_Rewrite LMAO RIGHT, AND YW
@@Rebel_Rewrite Even Wish the online shop aswell which is so fitting. And that’s why in some countries they changed the name. 😂
I knew I it was a generic story line from the moment I saw the trailer.
Overly abusive greedy villain,
not really fleshed out main character protagonists
You’re being WAY too kind dude, I’d forget it by the third day after seeing it 😏😏😏
I agree with a lot of your complaints about underdeveloped concepts such as Wish's underdeveloped magic system, lack of world-building, and poor characterization. I blame that on the movie's bad pacing. It was BLAZING fast. They wanted to fill in the gaps with songs, not plot development.
-The people of Rosas are shown to be dancing, jubilant, and happy. There's no sign that this king is treating them terribly. There's no underlying current of misery or any subtle sign of a dysfunctional society. The worst he's doing is refusing to grant people's wishes, which actually makes sense given that there could be wishes that are dangerous, lethal, or otherwise negative. So, where's the problem?
-They probably mention her dad twice in the movie, although he's talked about as if he was an important person in Asha's life. Why not explore her relationship with her dad?
-The Star (who's quite squishy and cute like Kirby) is a threat to King Magnifico's power because he can also produce magic like Magnifico does. What dictates who's capable of producing magic in this setting? How does one learn how to become a wizard, or is a person simply born with magical powers? Why does simply looking into this magic book poison King Magnifico and turn him into flipping Lex Luthor? Why not show more of how the movie's magic system works?
-King Magnifico is established to have had some signs of childhood trauma. They also show a tapestry that showed his hometown's destruction. What wish was granted that led to the destruction of his childhood hometown? How does that influence his obsession with not granting wishes out of some paranoia about the potential threat of granting every wish? Why not show more of this guy's background?
-What the heck happened to the king? Why is he suddenly so narcissistic after a meeting with Rosa's townsfolk? Why is he suddenly so mean-spirited toward his wife in the last 30 min of the movie, when he had been treating her with respect the whole movie? Why not establish these bad character traits earlier on in the movie?
All of these problems could've been resolved and all of these questions could've been answered with better pacing.
One can't even say it was a casualty of the SAG-AFTRA and WGA (aka the Hollywood writer and actor) strikes because the production times of Across the Spider-Verse, Barbie, Ninja Turtles, Mario, and even Pixar's own Elemental coincided with the strikes, too. Those all did fine, overall. It almost makes me wonder if the movie was rushed out, maybe to meet Disney's 100th anniversary.
I appreciate your perspective on the issues you highlighted, but I disagree. I don't think these problems are directly related to the pacing of the story. The issues with Wish's underdeveloped magic system, lack of world-building, and poor characterization stem from the narrative structure and script development rather than the speed at which the plot unfolds.
Here’s why:
*World-Building and Magic System* : The movie's fast pacing contributes to a feeling of rushing through the story, but the real issue lies in the lack of detailed exposition and coherent rules for the magic system. World-building requires effort and integration into the plot, not just more screen time. The movie failed to implement its magic elements naturally into the narrative, regardless of pacing.
*Characterization* : Developing characters, such as exploring Asha's relationship with her father or King Magnifico's background and motivations, depends on the quality of the script and the depth given to these characters. The movie is missing strategic flashbacks and character interactions necessary for the audience to gain the needed insight.
*King Magnifico’s Transformation* : King Magnifico's abrupt change points to inconsistent character development rather than a pacing issue. Proper foreshadowing is the culprit, not the pacing framework. Effective storytelling ensures characters are believable and gradually develop. This is a matter of scriptwriting, not pacing.
*Plot Development vs. Songs* : The decision to prioritize songs over plot development is a creative choice. It impacts how the story feels but doesn't inherently relate to pacing. The overuse of songs to supplement missing plot and character development resulted in a rushed pace due to missing context.
In summary, while a slower pace or longer runtime might have provided more time to explore these elements, the core issue is how the existing time and narrative devices were badly constructed. Better integration of world-building, character backstories, and consistent character development are the actual culprits, regardless of the pacing.
I also don't think the strike was the main reason. But it's possible that it influenced Wish's post-production phase. Even then, the influence would have been marginal, unless they pointed out it was crap and had to be reworked from the ground up.
Thanks for watching and commenting.
I am not sure if wish was agenda driven or just a lazy "just for the sake of aniversary" project. I don't usually care about the visuals, but I atleast want a engaging storyline... honestly... you are right on alot of points... but for some reason I kinda want this movie to be a "bad ending scenario". They could've gone and made the movie in the way as "Asha wanting to set free the wishes for the people's sake" and then when magnifico gets captured we get a scene of realization, where magnifico gives out a "I told you so" speech. Magnifico could've been potrayed as a flawed king, who meant to do right, but got desperate at a sign of danger. The whole consuming wishes for magic is a great idea and Magnifico would have the outright evil and very darksided wishes as his main powersource, because he wanted to re-write and grant the vague or questionable wish in a way that would not only make a person happy, but also benefit the kingdom's peace. The book could've been sentient and give out faint whispers that go louder with each evil wish consumed. Only once magnifico runs out of evil wishes and the books voice is almost omnipresently loud he would consider taking the less incriminating wishes. then again I am probably trying to fix damage that is already done and ranting on a great youtube video that does what I am doing now probably better.
Regarding Disney's typical release schedule, they often aim for Thanksgiving/Christmas releases, tapping into the holiday season's family-oriented audience. This time around was the centennial anniversary and the producers intended to incorporate the wish-granting-theme for which Disney is known for. They just failed to create a compelling story and the movie ended up feeling *forced* to me.
While a bad ending might not align with Disney's usual fare, introducing a darker turn in the middle of the movie - releasing all wishes and creating a chaos where laws of physics, and whatnot, were broken - could add tension and depth to the story without necessarily compromising its overall family-friendly appeal.
The idea of Asha and the King being forced to work together as they strive to undo the chaos could create compelling character dynamics.
The concept of the book whispering ominous thoughts is a great idea. Making it an ancient evil wizard's powerful tome, which starts out as a helpful companion but turns out to control it’s user, could’ve been a great twist.
A plot device like a power hungry book that needs to consume wishes to grant wishes, could’ve also been interesting. When the King runs out of *bad* wishes to sacrifice, he’s forced to feed the book *vague* wishes, and eventually *good* wishes, but nothing helps to keep the whispers from becoming louder. This wouldn't just solve Magnifico's abrupt transition into a villain but provides a reason for him to collect and keep the wishes in the first place as well.
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I like channels that don't just dunk on media that they think is bad, but offer how they would fix the issues. Keep it up!
I'm glad you enjoyed my video.
I am fully aware that criticizing someone else's work comes across as audacious and wanting to *improve* on it, may be perceived as insolent. But that is never my intention. I will praise the aspects I enjoy but I'm not afraid to point out what I dislike and why.
I try to stay objective, provide constructive criticism, and not simply hate on someone else's efforts. My goal is to offer insights for improvement. The most important thing for me is explaining why I dislike certain plot points, or characters, etc, and provide a different - although, subjective - take on it.
First and Foremost, I do it to improve my own abilities and foster my own growth. I create and post these videos online because I'm curious to know what other people think. I'm particularly interested to see if there a discrepancy between what I thought and how other people perceived it. If there are differences, I want to understand if it's an oversight or lack of insight, on my part.
I made a video about Transformers 7 - Rise of the Beasts a while back and thought people would agree with my viewpoints. They didn't. The video was downvoted a lot, but nobody commented on it saying I was wrong either. I'm still not sure what the issue with that one was. WIthout feedback I'm unable to tell if I am in the wrong , if perhaps the video was badly produced, or simply recommend to the wrong people by the algorithm.
Anyway, thanks for commenting. I appreciate the engagement.
The Super Mario Bros movie is the exact opposite when it comes to references as in easter eggs.
They implementation of Super Mario Games into actual plot points in the movie (Super Smash Bros., Mario Kart, Jumpman, etc.) gave the movie an additional level of depth.
Honestly, I was expecting something similar in Wish, but it turned out ot be such a let down.
There are a few Easter Eggs, like; Magnifico will become the mirror on the wall in snow white, and then there is a Peter Pan looking adult who wants to fly. Also, I think Asha is supposed to be a new iteration of cinderella's fairy godmother. But the Easter Eggs are too subtlety hinted at and easily missed.
There are 6 voice actors of King Magnifico who also voiced a character in The Super Mario Bros Movie:
- Raphael Rossatto: Mario & Magnifico in Brazilian Portuguese 🇧🇷
- Máté Szabó: Toad & Magnifico in Hungarian 🇭🇺
- Uroš Buh: Toad & Magnifico in Slovenian 🇸🇮
- Christos Thanos: Donkey Kong & Magnifico in Greek 🇬🇷
- Kenneth Christensen: Donkey Kong & Magnifico in Danish 🇩🇰
- Jeppe Beck Laursen: Bowser & Magnifico in Norwegian 🇳🇴
Voice actors are often used multiple times for various roles. American voice actor Christopher Sabat for example has been in many popular anime that have aired from the year 2000 onward.
@@Rebel_Rewrite True but it depends on the voice director’s decision. For example, France went with French actor Lambert Wilson from The Matrix movies and Mrs. Harris Goes To Paris. He played in English then dubbed himself in French but even if he looks like Magnifico, his voice doesn’t fit at all that I cringed from both of his speaking and singing voice! Oh how I wished they would brought back iconic Disney voices or an actual voice actor who would fit better for Magnifico.
As for Asha’s French voice, she’s the perfect cast and for her first time role in voice acting, Océane Demontis did an excellent work. 😉
You seem to be very interested in voice acting. Is voice acting an interest of yours?
I agree with most of your points, except for your note about Magnifico being good-natured and having the best interest of his people at heart at 5:50. Magnifico is an obvious narcissist, but he only seems benevolent at first because the people aren't questioning or challenging him in anyway. The first time he's questioned even a little bit he snaps and says he gets to decide. If he does anything nice for the people, it's only because he needs their undying loyalty and gratitude. He even quantifies that in his song about how many wishes he granted, as if to say "this amount seems just right to get the love and admiration I need from the people." If he really cared about them, he'd be granting wishes daily, at least the ones he deemed wouldn't be detrimental to Rosas. The movie isn't super clear on this, but I wonder if Magnifico knew that taking the wishes was causing people to feel like they've lost a part of themselves (at least at the beginning before he used the plot device book).
On another point, I also found it annoying that the movie made it seem like the people were all living their best lives, except for Simon. He's the only character that seems to be suffering, though that may be because the focus is on the 7 characters under 18, except Simon who has lost his wish when he turned 18.
Another glaring issue is the grandfather's wish. They clearly state the grandfather is 100 years old, but Magnifico looks to be in his 40s. When Magnifico either became king or figured out magic, did he round up everybody over 18 and collect all their wishes in bulk? Depending on when Magnifico started this, that was probably sometime in the last 20 years, so Sabino would have been 80 or older. For 80 years he never bothered to fulfill his own wish to inspire young people, which is just ridiculous. Even if somehow he would have figured it out in those 20 years, you'd think his wife or the other people in town would know what Sabino wanted to do with his life. Heck, I know that the person at Kroger I see a couple times a month has a kid and wants to be a nurse. You'd think a small town would have everybody knowing what their neighbors dreams are. Ryan George had a joke in his Pitch Meeting video about nobody ever writing down their wishes or telling anybody else about them before they're taken. Even if it didn't occur to somebody to write down their wishes in a normal situation, you'd think you'd write it down when you knew it would disappear as soon as you turned 18 and the king took it, at least from talking to other people who had that happen to them. Maybe an unmentioned rule of the magic is you can't talk about or write down your wish or it'll never come true.
My wording in the video was poor. I made Magnifico sound more caring than he was, but his motivation was to prevent the same tragedy he suffered as a child from happening again. What really bothered me about him was that he had no narcissistic tendencies at first and seemingly acquired them on a whim once questioned. The transition wasn't gradual; it felt abrupt and forced to me. If the movie had made it clear that he wasn't doing it for the good of the people but that he wanted to primarily protect himself-being self-absorbed-by policing others, I would've been okay with it.
In one frame in the movie at around 1:21:05, right when Magnifico was imprisoned in the crystal, you see a mask resembling the magic mirror from Snow White. I assume that's the reason he was almost forced to develop narcissistic tendencies to create that Easter egg. I did not perceive him as a well-rounded character but rather one that was changed to fit the part when needed.
Asha lived with her Grandfather and Mother all her life, and with her father until he died. Therefore, if losing a wish made them so depressed or sad, wouldn't Asha have noticed that? You could even make a counter-argument here that forgetting your wish and the worries that come along with it will help you lead a long life. After all, Saba made it all the way to 100.
The last two points are excellent. I'd guess Magnifico's age to be around 50-55+, but regardless of his age, Saba would've been 65 at the lowest when Rosa's was established. That means he spent a large portion of his life pursuing his dream before giving it up willingly. If you're a parent, wouldn't you know about your child's wish or have a vague idea what it might be? The only explanation I can think of is that the wish is magically removed from everyone once it is handed over.
I appreciate the comment and the insight. Thank you for watching.
You have potential
Thank you! I appreciate the kind words.
they make those disney cartoon movies just to sell Huggies training diapers pants
Even if they licensed Wish designs to diaper companies, the profits won't be nowhere near enough to cover the losses.
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I don’t even bother to remember the protagonist name. She is so boring. Your main character or characters should never be boring nor unforgettable. Even a bad character is better cause you can remember them. It’s boring/forgettable characters that are the worse. They make me feel nothing about them.
It's important to create characters that resonate with the audience. Asha was no different than any of the other forgettable background characters. Thank you for sharing your thoughts.
Yeah, what a lousy movie. And the movie's defenders are making lame points in a childlike viewpoint. They can't possibly think that such a childish teenager who blew a tantrum because the king told her no for asking for her grandpa's wish is the hero of the story. Her character arc sucked, no development, no charm, no anything.
It's sad to see after 100 years of being in the business and with a huge budget at their disposal, Wish is the best they can come up with.
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@@Rebel_Rewrite yeah, anytime. I'm just so disappointed with the movie's execution and direction. It totally sucks. And it totally bothers me that people who do love this movie are delusional over the plot line and soundtrack. Disney is just trying to gaslight us into thinking which is lesser of two evils or something.
I'm really curious to konw what the people who worked on this (animators, marketing dept, etc.) thought about the movie, because at some point they had to realize that it's trash. Somehow everybody just seemed to have accepted the fact and continued polishing the turd, as they say.
@@Rebel_Rewrite yeah, they act as if they're proud of it being a masterpiece when really it's not. They ought to be embarrassed that not too many people like this piece of crap.
I didn’t enjoy the movie. And the people who enjoys it, be my guest. The movie is terrible in the worst of ways. Asha who is the antagonist of the film couldn’t accept no for an answer. Not only that, she has the audacity to convinced the queen that her husband is evil. Which btw, why Amaya sided with Asha?? Amaya should know her husband more than this entitled brat. Plus, Asha left out a very, VERY important detail to her generic friends when Magnifico told her his tragic story. You know, the almost burnt tapestry as a reminder; where the king was just a wee boy and lost his parents by selfish and greedy people and burn everything into the ground. Yeah, Asha left that whole info and never brought it up. And Amaya too, surprisingly.
Its the first disney movie were the villainess wins
Depends. Does Maleficent count or not? 🤔
once again Disney is dead
Let's hope Inside Out 2 isn't too much of a failure. Pete Docter isn't directing or credit as a writer, therefore my expectations are fairly low.
@@Rebel_Rewrite Bro. It's just a movie. It had a Beautiful concept on adventure and experience and now you complain in that!!!!😡😡😡
I'm confused, which movie are you talking about, Wish?
@@Rebel_Rewrite Yes. Wish. Cause you were blaming the artist. They did nothing wrong.
I'm blaming the writers for not being able to write an interesting story. I never blamed the artists. I even praised Chris Pine for giving a good voice over performance.
Now that Wish is on Disney+ aswell of the confirmation during the end credits: After Peter Jöback the Swedish voice of Aladdin as King Magnifico, Jannike Kruse the Norwegian voice of Jasmine from Aladdin in the 90s also made her return as the Norwegian voice as Queen Amaya so it’s like Aladdin & Jasmine got both their whole new wish granted with a royal transition from Agrabah to Rosas. 🧞♂️⭐️
Let's hope the next Disney project they collaborate on will be a bigger success.
@@Rebel_Rewrite Hopefully with better written story and new characters who would be more important and useful into their role.
Jannike Kruse is also celebrating her 30th anniversary of animated dubbing and it’s great that she’s got a new Disney role in Norwegian many years later! 🇳🇴
i just felt like this movie was too rushed i am so happy in the last few days of 2023 i got to see wonka instead of this mvie at the cinema. whil wonka on the other hand wasn't rsuhed at all
Wonka was everything Wish should've been. Heartwarming story, good characters, simple plot, good visuals and music. I saw a few reviews complain about Wonka that there's not enough of a connection to the old Wonka (Charlie and the chocolate factory, 1971) which makes no sense. It's a new take on the story for a new generation of children, not a continuation of a story targeted at ~50 year old adults.
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@@Rebel_Rewrite also its supposed to be a prequel to gene wilder also who wants wonka movie with the same damn story that is overdone
I agree and disagree with that statement. Watching the same thing over and over again is boring, but it also depends on how memorable the plot is. Charlie and the chocolate factory is very unique. It was rebooted in 2005, therefore an *updated* version to watch is available. Rebooting such an updated version in 2023 doesn't make much sense.
But there are other instances where periodically updating a movie makes sense. One example I can think of is the latest iteration of A Star Is Born, starring Lady Gaga and Bradley Cooper. The original is from 1937. It was rebooted with respectively contemporary popular actors in 1954, then in 1976, and lastly in 2018. Another one might be made in ~2045.
And then there are monster movies like Godzilla. The plot or premise never changes but it's still always popular.