King Candy's name DOESN'T fit into Sugar Rush beyond a surface level though All the other Sugar Rush racers have very punny names, but King Candy sounds like something an uninspired guy would come up with for a character name Which fits Turbo perfectly
Yeah, he cares more about racing and being the center of attention than anything else, including coming up with good names. Although, King Candy is still a better name than The Snuggly Duckling (at least IMO). Also, some racers have pun names, but others are portmanteaus (Vanellope, for example).
Also, most of the designs are very gimmicky and specific, with limited color pallettes to reflect their design. Candlehead is green and pink and looks like a cupcake or birthday cake. Taffyta is pink and white with green accents, and she looks like a strawberry. King Candy's design is much more traditional; white, crimson, greenish-gray, and gold colors and a design inspired by royal attire, not a specific food. Even Vanellope's original design suggests a cake, with a mainly pink design.
@@NapaCat Wow, you've got quite an eye for detail! That does remind me: In the ToucanLDM video Wreck-It Ralph Meets My Little Pony, Pinkie briefly sees the racers as desserts: Candlehead is a slice of chocolate cake on a dish of mint-chip ice cream, Snowanna Rainbeau is a snow cone, Crumbelina di Carmelllo she sees as a cookies 'n' cream cake on a cone with chocolate-chip ice cream, and Gloyd Orangboar is seen as a Mellowcreme pumpkin candy on a candy corn. I wouldn't be surprised if these desserts are on what these racers were based!
The twist works, as the plot doesn't revolve around Candy being Turbo. If he wasn't Turbo, then he'd still be a good villain, since his hatred of Vanellope still makes sense as it's not out of nowhere, unlike Prince Hans, Dawn Bellwether and Professor Callahagn. It's amazing that the writers did so, so well with this miracle of a twist villain!
I might argue that Bellwether was a pretty good twist villain in her own right. They certainly gave her a functional foreshadowing - as they did with Turbo - and a clear-enough motivation by showing how Lionheart basically abuses her as his subordinate. I think that it was always going to be tricky in a movie like Zootopia (which confronted deeply entrenched systemic issues) to create a believable villain, but I think that Bellwether was… technically proficient, to say the least.
@@mozambiquemorbid2441 Okay... But at the same time it really comes out of nowhere. Seriously in the final act, she's just there with barely any fanfare, and at that point the movie is really trying dam hardest to make it seem impactful, when basically nothing really came before it to set it up. It's just there because... Irony?
@@dtierhero2271 It's interesting, I knew Bellwether was going to be the twist villain when the Lion got jailed, and I knew that at some point Wilde was going to "go Savage", I just didn't know how it was going to be revealed and done. So the foreshadowing is definitely there. I did like the blueberry and carrot pen hustle call-back too.
The only real problem with Callaghan is his attempt to dismiss his hand in Tadashi's death. There was at least a build up and mystery around the twist.
It’s not that I even hates Vanellope. To him, she’s just a minor inconvenience in what is his ultimate plan which is to become ruler of a game. He’d probably do the same thing in any other racing arcade game. But also, I’m not sure the movie would’ve worked without the twist. Since we don’t know why he wanted to delete her code until it’s revealed that it is Turbo and that he wants to become the game’s ruler.
The best part is how Turbo's final form as the Cybug has the front part of the bug broken open and his head emerging from it. It didn't eat him and mimic him...he took control of it and parasitized the bug like some kind of digital Cordyceps.
the interesting part, technically...the cy-bug ate "king candy" thus why the king candy head is the changed one, but the Turbo one is still fits with what you said of turbo taking control
Turbo didn't take over the cy-bug, he literally _melded_ with it. Callhoun foreshadows by warning the Hero's Duty player "cy-bugs become what they eat." So after the cy-bug ate him, Turbo's consciousness remained and the bug's body transformed accordingly. Which is more disturbing than a digital Cordyceps, in my opinion, haha... Whereas Cordyceps turns sentient beings into instinct-driven zombies (so to speak), cy-bugs are neutral, instinct-driven critters with the potential to become fully-sentient hybrid monsters.
I think Turbo's referring to just becoming a virus. Callhoun warns that "cy-bugs become what they eat," which implies that after the cy-bug ate him, Turbo literally melded with the thing.
@@FoxMoon89it also has the terrifying implication that when Callhoun’s husband got eaten by a bug, it transformed into him in front of her and she had to kill the monster her husband became, not just the bug that ate him.
Yea, Sometimes you don't need a reason for someone to be evil, sometimes you just need a bad guy to be bad for the sake of it so the plot can move forward or so you have someone for a Hero to oppose. And while yes Villains with depth are good. There's upsides to just having a plain simple villain, like you don't have to alot of heavy lifting to give the villain a backstory and then there's the comedy potential and etc...I mean look at Jack Horner for example. Point is, sometimes things don't need a meaning to work, there doesn't have to be a "Why" for things to land. Overall a Villain is good aslong as you execute it well as Rayen said.
I think the difference there is that movie has three villains; Death, Goldy and Horner. Death is a force of nature, he's unstoppable and you can just hope to escape him and there no 'evil' to him. He's just what he is and Puss' hubris has brought Death down on himself, so we don't see Death as a villian in that same sense, but as a force that Puss needs to find a way to overcome. That makes Death less a main story villain and more the villain in Puss' personal story and character arc. Goldy is very clearly the villain that can be redeemed and has a relateable motivation of wanting to find a family (but not looking at what she has before her) and the more we delve into her story, the more we want to see that, so it feels so good to see her and the bears get their happy ending. Horner only works as straight up, unashamed evil because he bounces off the other two villains given he's somewhat like them, but also not. Death cannot be stopped, but can be impressed; Horner cannot be impressed at all and sees himself as superior and is somewhat a force that pushes through, no matter the cost. Goldy and the Bears can be redeemed and 'fixed' and eventually are when Goldy stops looking for whats out of her reach and what she has; Horner has nothing to redeem, he knows he's bad and embraces it, never caring about what he has (like his speech about all the things his family gave him and calls it 'useless crap') but only what he wants. We can also relate to Horner's motivation that he had nothing of the special powers of other magical creatures, but we can see it with Goldy being the same as him, that he has no interest in any form of redemption and is just rotten to the core. Goldy on the same point, didn't let her jealously of no power define her, but more about her family and people she built relations with. At the end, while her relationships with the bears and Puss and co is what saves Goldy, Horner's lack of relationships does him in when the cricket and phoenix basically leave him to get his upcomance. If you were to take Death and Goldy out of Last Wish, Horner solo would be a *terrible* villain and likely would not be able to hold that movie up on his own.
I think it also works just cause he’s so unapologetically evil and is fully aware of it, while going all out of this fact. Such has his childish laugh or doing evil acts without a second glance like it’s nothing, such as: Cricket: “You’re not gonna shot a puppy are you?!” Jack: “yeah in the face, why?” Basically he’s so evil that you can’t take him seriously, and the film is aware of this and doesn’t take him seriously, even if he’s a real threat.
Alright, not to be the giant Hans twist defender here but Anna only knew him for a day WE only knew him for a few canonical days, the point is that when you know someone for a day and then immediately decide to get engaged there will be red flags that you either missed or have not showed through the person because it’s only been a day. It makes it less satisfying but slightly more realistic. And yes, it could have been a lot better, but I see why they took the direction.
Considering how her and her game are relatively new, she’s probably not familiar with the term “going Turbo”, unlike most of the 80s/90s video game characters are.
I find it such an interesting idea because Turbo wasn't really a twist VILLAIN, but a twist character who happened to be a villain. What do I mean by this? It's not like he wasn't ALWAYS the villain, and just happened to turn out evil in a twist, he was ALWAYS an antagonist who was clearly in on the constant tormenting of Vanellope and allowed it to happen under his rule. The twist wasn't the fact that he was the villain, no- the character he ACTUALLY was is what became the twist though. It finally assigned motive to his actions and revealed WHY he was the way he was.
However, all of his actions become so much more frightening and important when you know he’s turbo. King Candy wasn’t entirely “evil” King Candy wasn’t entirely invalid in his concern to keep the game safe, but when he’s revealed it makes sense as to why he was so desperate to keep it safe! And he becomes evil enough to try and kill Ralph.
@@lyzzistormnightcore I guess it's really like turning from one type of villain to another, in this case lawful evil to chaotic evil in DnD terms. He was always doing things that are morally bad, but he was justifying it with upholding law and protecting his citizens. The only thing that the twist changed is from him doing it to protect the others, to him doing it to protect himself and his new world. After all, if he modified his appearance and everyone's memories using the game code, its very well possible that being forced to leave the game could revert those changes, ESPECIALLY if the game needed to be reset as a result of it. The point is, he wasn't suddenly a villain, he was just a villain for new reasons that were previously not apparent about him.
"King Candy" was the film's antagonist, but he's not initially depicted as a villain. Antagonists oppose or challenge the protagonists' goals, but they're not always villains (characters with selfish or malicious motives). His plea to Ralph that he's protecting Venellope by not letting her race comes off as authentic until the reveal that she's possibly not a glitch at all.
@@FoxMoon89 it’s true that he was depicted as authentic until the twist, but that doesn’t change the fact that he willingly allowed and encouraged a stigma against a literal child with monstrous signs like we saw at the Go Kart Factory, and how he had his entire army chasing after both Ralph and Vanellope, which no reasonable man should need to do. “Villain” is a term of moral perspective, so a character like Death Wolf in Puss in Boots is an antagonist, but not a villain (as he is a force of nature. Some argue that his bias against Puss makes him villainous, but he changes his perspective when Puss changes for the better, AND one could argue that he was only biased towards Puss in the same way death is biased towards people who do things that are statistically dangerous, like skydiving or playing football), whereas Jack Horner is a villain but not really that much of an antagonist. Jack Horner plays the role of an antagonist about as well as Goldilocks and the three bears do for 90% of the movie, and even Kitty was the same for the first portion of it. But, he was DEFINITELY a villain, even if barely a relevant antagonistic force in the movie. So, back to this movie, King Candy is absolutely an antagonist, but he also shares some of the moral similarities with a villain, they just become far MORE pronounced at the twist. Really, it could be thought of that his clear allowance of Vanellope’s treatment was intended to be FORESHADOWING for the final reveal, putting it all into perspective, but the actions were always evil.
@@GameJam230 I'd still argue antagonist over outright villain because his intentions/morals initially seem more subjective. Sending his guard after her seems extreme until the reminder that glitches can and _have_ led to games being unplugged. Turbo invading Road Blasters got _both_ games unplugged, so a well-meaning but paranoid king who let fear overtake reason and compassion is a reasonable interpretation of King Candy pre-final act. That's actually the direction I thought the film might be going when King Candy's reaction to Venellope escaping was fear/worry, rather than anger. Without knowing his real motives or identity, his nervousness makes you wonder if his actions are malicious or a product of fear and paranoia (and to what degree his fears are real or imagined). Don't misunderstand - stigmatizing someone is _absolutely_ wrong and inexcusable. But motives rooted in safety/survival concerns are different from malice or disregard in there's a potential for change and accountability if the underlying fears are resolved or conquered .
Wow. No wonder they've been doing what they're doing, they clearly know what good writing is and refuse to have it. It's like Trash TV, but for movies. For all time's sake, can't we have Disney go bankrupt at least once?
I've said it before, I'll say it again. Hans would have been an amazing twist villain if he never tried to deceive Anna, that he kissed her... *_and nothing happened._* He would absolutely lose it, go insane, and go on a savage quest to slaughter Elsa because "it's the only way to save Anna", just make him NOT A LIAR, and he would work perfectly.
Think about that scene after Hans first meets Anna. His horse accidentally drops him in the water, but he doesn't mind at all and smiles like he's genuinely so content that not even getting soaked can sour his mood. Most importantly, he was alone, so there was no need to put on a good guy performance. That scene is a big part of why Hans is a bad twist villain. Twist villains hint about what they're like under their benevolent facade when they can get away with it. Take Hal Stewart from Megamind: he throws out a lot of hints that he's very selfish and creepy under his well-meaning but socially awkward guy appearance. But Hans barely if at all hints that he's a manipulator, and all his deeds and the above scene paint him as good as he acts, so his whole "I never actually loved you" bit is shoehorned as a result. Maybe if he went on his way after meeting Anna in a manner that hints that he loses interest in her as soon as she's out of sight, that could actually set up the twist.
One of my favorite touches in the movie is the fast forward in the arcade at the beginning. When you see Sugar Rush get installed the audience can see Vanellope on the side of the arcade cabinet. First time viewing though most people would miss it, or wouldn't pay it any mind, especially since it is at the very start of the movie.
She's also wearing a very different outfit with, if I recall correctly, a completely different color scheme, which makes her image both even easier to miss and serve as much heavier foreshadowing if someone _does_ catch it and recognize her face later! Brilliant, love it, 11 out of 10 detail choice.
Ya know that makes me wonder what the game would’ve been like if Turbo never invaded, because Vanellope is supposed to be the princess. It makes me wonder if her personality would be slightly different than our Vanellope, and what her fully design would look like since our Vanellope made her outfit herself
Whenever I heard about Turbo before his reveal, I thought he was just a bad omen, a cautionary tale, and other stuff that meant he wasn’t gonna matter any more than that. But all the mentions of him and the story were parts of the big foreshadowing to his reveal
I feel like this video repeats itself a lot. You should rewrite your script because you have good things to say but I stopped watching at 9:17 where I felt you’ve repeated stuff too much without anything new and I felt the video is going nowhere. I’m not trying to be mean, I just want you to know how I felt watching this for your future benefit.
No you're write don't feel bad about pointing incorrect and terrible writing It's criticism, hating is saying....... " this video is trash because I don't like his voice and I could do better because I my voice is better...." You're giving criticism, allowing the creator to reflect and opted a resolution.
I watched this video on 1.25x speed then switched to 1.75x speed because this guy took too long to reach the prompt The first 15 minutes is just filler, all he does is retell the whole movie, scene by scene, like an audiobook. Which is insane because we're here to listen for a new idea/perspective of the question/prompt. Which he didn't deliver correctly.
Another clue of Turbo’s identity is him getting scared of getting hurt when Ralph threatens him, even though if he was genuine he would just revive, but since he doesn’t belong to the game he would die for good. Another clue is also his code box being significantly bigger than the other NPCs of the game
I wondered why it was so much bigger! Now I realize it's cause it used to take a lot more complex code to make a racing game that old VS penelope's newer, optimized obe
@@dollmaker6599 yeah!! Until today I thought it was just symbolic thing showing he didn't belong there, or because he thought he was better than everyone else so his was bigger But no (I mean, yes, but also) It's literally the amount of space needed for the code getting improved drastically over time! Wow!
A very VERY subtle cue was the sound the crown makes when landing on his head. Watch the scene he meets up with Ralph to convince him to stop what he’s doing and listen closely when he’s jumping around. The crown makes a sound like metal hitting something also inanimate- like plastic.
Jack Horner in specific as a stand out. Though at the same time I think he only shined because the film made use of multiple antagonists, the big bad wolf with logical motivation, the goldilocks family with their redemption, etc. Just a really well done film overall.
"Pure evil" works perfectly, but not as a twist villain. If Ursula or Jafar were presented as a good buy for 80% of the movie to suddenly make a turn at the end, they would be awful. If your character is pure evil just let them be evil from the start so the audience can enjoy seeing their plan come to fruition.
@@AgusSkywalker, I wouldn't consider Ursula "Pure Evil" considering that she cares for her two eel minions Flotsam and Jetsam, praising them when they do things for her and even mourning them after accidentally "erasing" them with the trident.
@@Yipper64 Pretty much this. A pure evil villain needs something to bounce off of generally. Horner only works because of Death and Goldy also there and how they all have different values to the same ideas and how their differences shape them. The fact that Goldy is saved because of the relationships she forges in the journey, while Horner burns every bridge to get what he wants is a prime example.
I think what makes him so perfect, is that him being Turbo explains SO much all at once! It's the piece that makes everything else make sense. Twists like that are the perfect kind. You build up so many questions, and answer them all at once.
Not sure if it's noted, but for those who can recognise voices would hear that during the Turbo backstory, Turbo's voice is exactly the same as King Candy's (both voiced by Alan Tudyk).
narrator and video both feel very-very close to whatever the giraffe-furry guy who review cartoons here on youtube is called, barely any difference aside from the voice itself.
The part at the end with the bullet points sounded so GPTslop that I immediately clicked on the channel just to see if the description would say that using AI scripts is its gimmick or something.
i came to the comments expecting it to be filled with this! it was like the same paragraph over and over. at one point i was like did i restart the video💀
And that’s why Ralph Breaks the Internet is the Worst Disney Movie because it ruins the two main protagonists/Sends one of the worst morals/messages I’ve seen, and it completely ignores everything from the first movie!
Another good misdirect that ends up actually adding to Turbo/King Candy being the big villain is when he says to Ralph, "You're not going 'Turbo,' are you?!" He seems as disgusted and terrified of that idea as everyone else. We later find out, though, that that's because he's worried that Ralph will take his place.
"there's nothing more boring than a villain who's just evil for the sake of evil" Man, you can throw a dart into a crowd of pre-2005 Disney (animated) villains and hit maybe 1 or 2 who have an actually complicated motivation. The vast majority are evil for the sake of evil and are *amazing*. Scar, Jafar, Maleficent, etc.
I will die on this hill: Hans would have worked as a twist villain if it weren't for the scene right after him and Anna meet where he watches her leave with Goo-Goo eyes and a warm smile. No one is watching him he doesn't have to perform for anyone and yet he's acting like a smitten teenager, without that scene everything else works, it's just maybe a little too subtle. Hans is the classic charming guy who only reveals how horrible and abusive he is once you are completely powerless against him.
This was very useful. I’m currently writing a apocalyptic sci-fi book and was originally just going to have the traitor to the good guys legit just pull a gun on them at some point but now I can modify that idea. A. Her brother (who is also a traitor) could be the one who is revealed and it takes a while later for it to register with the Heroes that she might be working with her brother B. I could give her the motivation that one of the heroes wronged her in the past. C. Could give her an annoyed personality throughout the book. D. Could also shift the focus to some characters whose loyalties are still in question.
You could also have that character avoid going to a place where a confrontation happened that led to her deciding to betray the party. Give her more of a reason besides "these people did something to me, so I'll do it to them", maybe some sort of psychosis or paranoia based on the fact it is the apocalypse. Logically, the other characters would begin to suspect her once her brother is revealed as a traitor, so make her give them a reason to believe she wouldn't betray them too. Maybe she kills her brother in front of everyone and says it's so he won't hurt them, but in reality, it's because he became a liability to her plan.
you have to allude to others being the villain throughout but not too obvious. This is written in many books even simple ones like 'April fools' where the twist villain appears, or 'party line'.. two middle school books that have 'twist plots'.
@@rushinkomg that’s actually really good i was thinking the same about them logically thinking she would be in cahoots with the brother but her killing him bc he fucking up the plan & being the traitor at the end would be a great twist
Wreck-it-Ralph is so GOATED! Turbo is a great twist villain, done perfectly. This is literally my favourite movie of all time, partly ‘cause of nostalgia though
Glad someone brought this up I thought my video looped or something at 8:55 just being almost word for word from 1:50 I know he said as mentioned before but man you gotta word it differently
Randomalistic recently made a video on this exact topic in Wreck-It-Ralph, and the video has gotten a ton of traction and over 300k views. If the script is actually AI generated, I bet the person who made it is trying to capitalize off of Randomalistic's super popular (and very well made) video essay. It kind of worked, since the only reason I clicked on this video is because of Randomalistic's essay.
Padding an essay by repeating oneself is not a concept invented or popularized by AI. I'm so tired of how apparently everyone has forgotten that humans are, in fact, not idealized perfect beings, and blame all sorts of things humans have been doing on their own for ages on AI.
@@somdudewillson well... maybe this was written by a middle schooller for a school project they procrastinated on until the last second? Plus, there are all of the basic errors that wouldn't be there with a slight bit of fact checking...
This is like the video version of repeating yourself in an esay 3x to make it longer. This vid should’ve legitimately been like maybe 10 mins long lmao.
Wreck-It-Ralph was peak storytelling, across the board. There are a lot of characters, but the movie never feels spread too thin, etc. Incredible efficiency and potency in storytelling.
Did you see the things that are just wrong throughout, interpretations things that actually happened in the movie, the script even goes back to say something different about a scene he already covered, that being where Turbo is revealed first he says "the old code takes over as they are racing and he is revealed" then a few minutes later says "turbo reveals himself on purpose" as if he wasnt just glitching out his persona as he was getting frustrated to the point it disappeared
@@nothingishere2837 There is someting funny yet creepy about AI text. Like you want to shout out how its wrong but it dont care, it cant. It just a endless stream of bs and hot air.
You know for a villain, Turbo/Candy’s plan is very insanely smart. He wants to be the star of the game, but realizes that there may always be another arcade console that will be the “next big thing” that kids are gonna wanna play. So what better way than to disguise himself as a racer PC, let alone be one of the main characters of it, in order for him to get all the attention he wants. With Sugar Rush, he just so happen to get a two for one by turning Vanellope into a glitch, removing any memory that she’s the kingdom’s ruler, SO THAT HE CAN HE BE THEIRS. But he made ONE FATAL MISTAKE. He forgot to repaint the castle. Seriously, to this day I’m surprised nobody has ever caught that detail…..
"theres nothing more boring than a villian thats evil for the sake of evil" Jack Horner is a huge exception, he was wonderfully executed, he is just evil because yes, but all his reasonins are very clear since the beginning, he just doesnt care about anything else but his own good, and its amazing
Pretty late but one thing I noticed in King Candy’s design is that he doesn’t have much candy in his outfit. The other racers and Vanellope have some form of candy in their outfit. Another thing I noticed is King Candy’s racing car. It’s mostly white and also doesn’t have much candy, absent of color. This is the complete opposite of sugar rush since almost everywhere you look there is color and vibrant.
I wouldn’t say that turbo’s motivation is a sympathetic one because his motivation isn’t that he wanted to be remembered and didn’t want to die (at least that’s not his main motivation portrayed) but instead it was to be the main character and for everyone to love him, which he selfishly sacrifices innocent characters in another, more popular, game out of jealousy to make him the one in the spotlight again
I would say Ratcliffe's motivation is to simply be like other conquerors like Cortez and Pizzaro who are mentioned by name in the song "Mine Mine Mine."
He's in a sense a TRIPLE twist villain. First is the twist that could be seen from a mile away, that Kind Candy is actually a villain. Next is the shocking reveal that he's turbo. Finally, he shows up a third time as a glitchy cy-bug creature. I feel like these all qualify as some level of twist, which makes him the perfect twist villain.
I think a great contributing factor is also the fact that King Candy was established as his own antagonist before the twist set in. You wouldn't expect an already-established villain to later turn out to be a twist villain. King Candy already had his own agenda and distinguished set of motivations. He had everything he needed to be his own character. That's why you would never see it coming. You look at him and think you already know everything about him and what's doing, but you don't.
I liked Callahan, a grieving father who’s sense of reason has been corrupted by his pain over the loss of his daughter is a great story, I don’t understand why people seem dislike him so much.
Despite the fact that you got a lot of plot points from the movie wrong, such as who tells what happened with turbo (that was Felix, NOT Calhoun) and why the cybugs attacked sugar rush (they had slowly been festering under the surface on they’re own, King Candy had no relation to them at all) this was a fairly good review of the twist villain. What made it so refreshing was that the twist wasn’t that he was the villain, but that the villain was a different villain.
4:08 I think you’re mistaken on who was the character explaining turbo’s backstory! It was Felix who told Calhoun about turbo’s backstory since she was newly plugged in and didn’t know about it yet! :3
The sheep in zootopia was shown being bullied or pushed or Stepped On by every Predator that she came in contact to what do you mean there was no precedence for her being evil or that they showed absolutely nothing in the movie for her to suddenly change. Ever since she was in they show the chance for her to be the bad guy
Because they don't establish anything of her being evil. There's no clues or small details that add up. Yes, she gets pushed about, but rewatching Zootopia, I can't see previous scenes with her that hint to her being the ultimate mastermind. There's no big clues that we overlooked besides she's a meek character getting pushed about. Sure, she has motivation and reason, no disputing that. But her reveal as the villain doesn't change really any context of previous scenes with her or the overall secret story of the movie's villain. It's just *dropped* on us to gasp and be surprised without the actual build up. Think of it this way; Zootopia is a buddy cop mystery movie. Except when rewatching, there's no clues to the villain's identity or motives beforehand, meaning it fails as a mystery given that you can't solve the mystery from the clues. The villain is just... revealed in a way to surprise and shock you. It's why some of the newer Scooby Doo shows are bad compared to older ones, because they focus on the funny gags and villains that make no sense, vs having an actual mystery you can work out before the story does it for you.
Hey had a solid idea for the sheep’s character, she just didn’t have enough presence in the movie to really flesh it out. She was supposed to be a Palpatine-like character, manipulating things behind the scenes, trying to get the protag on her side, etc. we saw her getting pushed around, and she just happened to be there to get Judy on the job and supported Judy from the beginning. However, she has so little presence, we basically forget about her by the time of the reveal. If they made the sheep become Judy’s first friend in Zootopia, and had her reach out to Judy every so often, calling her to let Judy vent her frustrations, helping Judy get a good lock on her door because Judy is just one little prey animal in a big city of predators, and it’s just not safe, offering to pull some strings to get Judy a real case, warning Judy to not get too close to the fox, just in case. These small things would have added for substance to her character and given us more hints about how she feels about predators and how smart she actually is, it could also have made the reveal more meaningful to Judy and us if the sheep was a friend instead of a background character.
i see a bunch of comments proposing this was an AI-script, or AI video, so probably there was very little involvement with an actual human who might have watched and/or analyzed the movies.
an amazing hint towards King Candy being Turbo...was his fear and panic when Ralph tried to attack him, because he's NOT from Sugar Rush meaning he would not regenerate, he'd actually die if Ralph squashed him
1:51 I honestly don’t think he cares about either of those things at all. It’s just a thin veil for staying in power. He literally breaks tradition by game jumping so that he can disturb the order, and feed his own ego. He’s only intolerant to Vanellope because he knows that She’s a direct threat to the status quo that “King Candy” benefits from the most.
"There's nothing more boring than a villain who's evil for the sake of evil." _Jack Horner entered the chat._ _Bowser entered the chat._ _Dr. Robotnik entered the chat._
That's because it is with the loops it goes around and the things that are wrong, or the scene where Turbo is revealed being shown twice with two different descriptions of why he showed up 1 being the games original code is shining through when that can only happen after Penelope finishes the race, and that he chose to reveal himself which made no sense. when the actual reason is pretty obvious that he couldnt contain his form as King Candy as he was getting ever so frustrated with the fact his whole scheme could fall apart so he glitched back into Turbo. or when it says "Turbo Summons the Cybugs" thst is obviously wrong
You know Elsa actually had a bad feeling about hans from the first look she saw at him. It appears she has a keen eye and knows politics better than anna Hans acted so well no one else suspected he even took control over the entire country and still no one suspected the reason he failed was because he became impatient and didn't see anna's death through or else he would have had all. secondly the sheep from zootopia. When you think about it she was actually a perfect villain who was always behind the shadows and nobody would really suspect like a wolf in a sheeps cloathing. The whole point is it is a mystery series and the whole point was to find out a criminal hiding in plain sight.
Just a slight correction, Turbo/King Candy doesn't summon Cybugs, that's just something else that is also happening at the same time. Cybugs are essentially a third party until Turbo gets eaten by one.
in my opinion, while Bellwether wasn't a good twist villain, she was a solid villain, villain. Like, her actions made sense. Her plan was fear. Dart predators and make them go savage. The issue was that they kept going missing. So she used a eager, gullible, rookie cop to do her dirty work for her. After all, if they remain missing, her plan won't work. And it would be far too suspicious if she found them (Or maybe she didn't know where they were, which would give another reason why she helped.) So, while her being a twist villain failed, her plan as a villain was solid and it actually worked. At least until the cop figured out what was happening and then things fell apart. Adding to this, I have a feeling she didn't frame the mayor. Again, her plan was to dart predators as a fear tactic. It doesn't make sense for Bellwether and the mayor to be in cahoots. Odds are, they had no idea what the other was doing. I think Lionheart actually was doing his best to understand what was happening and fix it. Which made him look bad when the animals were found.
Great video! I think the greatest twists (whether villain, plot, etc.) in a story are the ones that very few pick up on the first time viewing, but then when you go back and review the story, you see all the breadcrumbs and it recontextualizes so many other moments in the story. That’s what makes the plot twist in the Sixth Sense so great - when the big twist happens, all of the clues become obvious and then it makes you rethink and reinterpret all previous scenes in the movie.
"Turbo simply didn't want to be unplugged and forgotten" I only half agree with that. Turbo's real issue was that he couldn't stand being upstaged. THAT'S why he left his game, invaded another game, glitched out, and got both games unplugged. THEN, like a coward he went into hiding and did the same thing to vanillope. Only that time he learned from his mistakes and was able to perfectly hide in plain sight. If his plan was to avoid being forgotten he technically got his wish and gained a reputation as a cautionary tale. Nobody in the arcade forgot about Turbo.
4:06 It was actually Felix who explained going Turbo to Calhoun, since her game just got plugged in and Felix’s game was around long enough to even get to the tell the tale
i don't want to pull nasty acusations but... i cant shake off the feeling this was AI written. i maight be imagening things tho, ive been spending lotsa time with GPT wrighting face video scripts, so i maight just imagening
there’s 3 types of ways a twist villain can be played out. 1. we see both sides. we see the antagonist doing suspicious things on their own but also dropping hints while talking to the protagonists 2. we get a full villain pov like in joker. we get to see him change into a villain because of being looked down upon by society 3. we get just the protagonist view like in zootopia. we don’t see any scenes of just her doing suspicious. we just get the protagonists pov and i personally believe that works well for zootopia. it’s not ment to really be a twist villain. but YOU get the detective pov. it’s like you’re the detective and you’ve just cracked the case by finding the main guy
I'd like to say the twist also works because turbo wasn't setup as a villain, he was setup as an example of what people thought ralph was becoming. 'going Turbo' was always shown in the context of, 'this is what happens when a character leaves thier game'. So king candy being turbo felt like those threads were being tied together. King Candy knew how to access the game code because he'd done it before as Turbo. Candy being Turbo brings further context to his actions, in a way that makes sense. while also being a reflection on Ralphs actions and desires.
Alright, not to be the giant Hans twist defender here but Anna only knew him for a day WE only knew him for a few canonical days, the point is that when you know someone for a day and then immediately decide to get engaged there will be red flags that you either missed or have not showed through the person because it’s only been a day. It makes it less satisfying but slightly more realistic. And yes, it could have been a lot better, but I see why they took the direction.
Wait you have a point! I never really thought about it after watching the movie years ago but the explanation does make sense, I like that you pointed that out :)
A good reference for how to write twist villains is Attack On Titan. Without spoiling who the twist villains are, the show does a really good job at foreshadowing it.
The reveal of King Candy being Turbo was so great and one of my favorites in years. Another slightly subtle hint that I've seen brought up outside of what we're shown in the movie itself, is the casting of Alan Tudyk. A lot of people know him for playing twist villains (though I honestly can't think of too many times he has played a villain). It was his casting in Big Hero Six that also helped the initial belief that his character was the villain there as well. For myself, his story and methods were actually kind of creepy. Im generally fascinated by glitches in video games. Its a level of uncanny valley for me. Its not meant to be there, we arent suppised to see it, and often its off from the overall vibe of the game. On all levels its wrong. So Turbo goibg into other games feeds into that same feeling for me. Great all around imo
I found Hans realistic though. Plenty of slim ball guys seem fine at first and don't drop hints that they're, well, slim balls. Once his real side comes through, then it's like "oohhhh....." he has too many older brothers and he "fell" for her so fast and he was so dedicated, that's why. It was all a good act. Not ever person who is a bad news is a dumb as Turbo, some are actually pretty clever.
It would've worked uf he actually kissed her kept up the facade and when nothing happened left her to die, that makes all the difference to make it work better, alomg with making him seem annoyed with Anna at some times
@@nothingishere2837 Hans revealed his plot because he understood that the kiss wouldn't have worked and Anna would've found out upon the kiss failing to cure her sickness.
@@nothingishere2837 no it wouldn't have. If he never reveals his motives, he's just evil for the sake of being evil. His reveal shows that, despite the audience's belief, his intentions aren't genuine, and he believes that Anna has no chance of living, as he wouldn't have revealed his plans had she plausibly been able to stop him
I feel like Spiderman: Homecoming is another example of a great plot twist/villain reveal. The best plot twists don't have to be a big twisty plot twist, they can be the most obvious twist but the story has to be so gripping that you're not bored enough to notice. How good a plot twist is, isn't based on the twist, it's based on how good the story is around it to distract you from the twist.
king candy was never evil to be evil. he saw what the glitch he caused did to the other games, and he was afraid the same would happend to the candy racing game
Yup. Keeps repeating the same points over and over again while also contradicting some (like how it initially says part of why King Candy is a good twist villain is because "he's obviously evil but it's his true nature that's a surprise", but then minutes later says "he's a good twist villain because they do a good job of establishing him as one of the good guys".
That first mention of Turbo deserves special attention. If you're not a gamer then you see it as some gamer slang you don't recognize, but if you are a gamer then you remember third party controllers being advertised with a turbo button. A button which allows you to cheat by circumventing human limits to have the controller autopress the buttons for you far more rapidly than you would normally be able to. So to bring that back to Ralph, it sounds like the other villains are concerned that Ralph is attempting to break the rules of his game to be something that he is not. In essence, if you are a gamer then you are privy to a major plot point before the introduction of the film's antagonist.
Hans was obvious in a way. Disney doesn't do love triangles. And then Kristoff was introduced, who ended up being the more obvious love interest. it was obvious. "You just met him, you can't marry a man you just met." We just missed it at first, because we are so USED to that formula from Disney. it was a play on the Disney princes, marrying the princesses they barely know. He gave no warnings to us - but everyone else in that movie did.
In a writing perspective it was obvious, as evidenced by the statements you pointed out. Like as an outside onlooker audience if you were analyzing the writing it just made sense Hans isnt end game. But I also get what the video is saying. If you were not being analytical on how the character was written and how Disney tried to subvert the princess tropes, like a POV as a character in the story, then Hans really lacked the compelling points within the plot in-universe to be a satisfying twist villain.
@@shinryouzenHans wasn't supposed to be satisfying upon the reveal. Hans was supposed to scare the audience. In Wreck it Ralph, people know that something is up with King Candy, and the audience is hesitant to trust him, as his malicious nature is hinted at early on in the film. In Frozen, the audience trusts Hans's intentions, despite not wanting him to marry Anna. Upon a rewatch, it's easier to spot his manipulation tactics, but the thing that makes him a good villain is that he manipulates the audience as well as the characters in the film. I personally don't prefer either villain to the other, but I don't think either of their twists is inferior to the other.
@@neonmenace1592 If Hans was handled as he was in order to scare the audience, then scaring the audience is an inferior or subordinate narrative consideration to foreshadowing and payoff. King Candy/Turbo is more satisfying to watch and rewatch in every way.
One thing though, that I think is interesting about Turbo is how much more deliberate he is as King Candy. Gone are the days where he’d just do damage on a whim (like entering a certain Roadblasters) out of pure jealousy and spite. With his new alter ego, he seems more in control of himself, using his random laughter as a way to vent and keep himself in line so that he can keep going with his plans to fully control Sugar Rush. It just seems like in his 15+ years of being a game jumper, he’s learned a lot about how to put up a convincing facade.
Why does this video feel like 3 separate videos merged into a compilation? You keep introducing other twist villains like 4 times as if you haven't talked about them yet.
The fact that at the end he mostly remains as candy and not turbo is kinda genius Like the audience sees as king candy as the villain since his character was fleshed out
Another example of a bad twist villain is scooby doo mystery incorporated. I actually put the pieces together as soon as baylor hotner appears after the cry baby clown and photography. Its bad
I will never forget the feeling of pure shock and gasps everyone in the theater had when Turbo revealed himself. It was just so perfect and unexpected, which is a real shame that said feeling has yet to be replicated in any of future movies to date...
What I find makes the reveal so good is that it doesn’t add any new story points. The pieces are all present throughout the story, the only thing the twist provides is the connection
this was such a great analysis of the movie. I really enjoyed it and wish it had more success than it did. The sequel was a little off, but the concept as a whole was solid. I'll admit the twist of king candy caught me off guard. I wasn't sure what was going on but i enjoyed every minute of it. from the nostalgia to the concept of video games being a living, breathing universe.
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King Candy's name DOESN'T fit into Sugar Rush beyond a surface level though
All the other Sugar Rush racers have very punny names, but King Candy sounds like something an uninspired guy would come up with for a character name
Which fits Turbo perfectly
Yeah, he cares more about racing and being the center of attention than anything else, including coming up with good names.
Although, King Candy is still a better name than The Snuggly Duckling (at least IMO).
Also, some racers have pun names, but others are portmanteaus (Vanellope, for example).
That was my first thought aswell glad you pointed that at
that doesn't hold water.. sometimes devs don't name characters that well. I see stupid names in games all the time that feel uninspired.
Also, most of the designs are very gimmicky and specific, with limited color pallettes to reflect their design. Candlehead is green and pink and looks like a cupcake or birthday cake. Taffyta is pink and white with green accents, and she looks like a strawberry.
King Candy's design is much more traditional; white, crimson, greenish-gray, and gold colors and a design inspired by royal attire, not a specific food. Even Vanellope's original design suggests a cake, with a mainly pink design.
@@NapaCat Wow, you've got quite an eye for detail!
That does remind me: In the ToucanLDM video Wreck-It Ralph Meets My Little Pony, Pinkie briefly sees the racers as desserts: Candlehead is a slice of chocolate cake on a dish of mint-chip ice cream, Snowanna Rainbeau is a snow cone, Crumbelina di Carmelllo she sees as a cookies 'n' cream cake on a cone with chocolate-chip ice cream, and Gloyd Orangboar is seen as a Mellowcreme pumpkin candy on a candy corn.
I wouldn't be surprised if these desserts are on what these racers were based!
The "you hit a guy *with* glasses, well played" part was and still is the best part in my opinion.
I like how it also shows Ralph’s intelligence and reminds us he isn’t just a brute
it’s classically cartoonish in all the best ways, just like king candy
facts!
Bro i was rolling on the fucking floor when i heard them singing like in the wizard of oz
One of my absolute favorite lines from anything.
The twist works, as the plot doesn't revolve around Candy being Turbo. If he wasn't Turbo, then he'd still be a good villain, since his hatred of Vanellope still makes sense as it's not out of nowhere, unlike Prince Hans, Dawn Bellwether and Professor Callahagn. It's amazing that the writers did so, so well with this miracle of a twist villain!
I might argue that Bellwether was a pretty good twist villain in her own right.
They certainly gave her a functional foreshadowing - as they did with Turbo - and a clear-enough motivation by showing how Lionheart basically abuses her as his subordinate. I think that it was always going to be tricky in a movie like Zootopia (which confronted deeply entrenched systemic issues) to create a believable villain, but I think that Bellwether was… technically proficient, to say the least.
@@mozambiquemorbid2441 Okay... But at the same time it really comes out of nowhere. Seriously in the final act, she's just there with barely any fanfare, and at that point the movie is really trying dam hardest to make it seem impactful, when basically nothing really came before it to set it up. It's just there because... Irony?
@@dtierhero2271 It's interesting, I knew Bellwether was going to be the twist villain when the Lion got jailed, and I knew that at some point Wilde was going to "go Savage", I just didn't know how it was going to be revealed and done. So the foreshadowing is definitely there. I did like the blueberry and carrot pen hustle call-back too.
The only real problem with Callaghan is his attempt to dismiss his hand in Tadashi's death. There was at least a build up and mystery around the twist.
It’s not that I even hates Vanellope. To him, she’s just a minor inconvenience in what is his ultimate plan which is to become ruler of a game. He’d probably do the same thing in any other racing arcade game.
But also, I’m not sure the movie would’ve worked without the twist. Since we don’t know why he wanted to delete her code until it’s revealed that it is Turbo and that he wants to become the game’s ruler.
Another reason the twist worked is because the twist wasn’t just “oh no, he’s evil!”
Instead, it is "Oh no, it's Him."
Yeah, the twist isn't revealing that he is the villain, simply revealing why he's the villain.
But the whole "Oh no, he's evil!" Does work
Look at Jack Horner. He's evil just for the sake of being evil and he's great.
@@RandomDrawer_tm I mean on one hand that is true but on the other it wasn’t a twist, he made it blatantly obvious that he was evil from the get go
@@RandomDrawer_tm the twist being " oh no, he's evil" not that the character is just evil for the sake of it
The best part is how Turbo's final form as the Cybug has the front part of the bug broken open and his head emerging from it. It didn't eat him and mimic him...he took control of it and parasitized the bug like some kind of digital Cordyceps.
He did call himself a virus.
the interesting part, technically...the cy-bug ate "king candy" thus why the king candy head is the changed one, but the Turbo one is
still fits with what you said of turbo taking control
Turbo didn't take over the cy-bug, he literally _melded_ with it. Callhoun foreshadows by warning the Hero's Duty player "cy-bugs become what they eat." So after the cy-bug ate him, Turbo's consciousness remained and the bug's body transformed accordingly.
Which is more disturbing than a digital Cordyceps, in my opinion, haha... Whereas Cordyceps turns sentient beings into instinct-driven zombies (so to speak), cy-bugs are neutral, instinct-driven critters with the potential to become fully-sentient hybrid monsters.
I think Turbo's referring to just becoming a virus. Callhoun warns that "cy-bugs become what they eat," which implies that after the cy-bug ate him, Turbo literally melded with the thing.
@@FoxMoon89it also has the terrifying implication that when Callhoun’s husband got eaten by a bug, it transformed into him in front of her and she had to kill the monster her husband became, not just the bug that ate him.
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I disagree, Pure evil villains can be entertaining, It's just depends on how you execute them.
Both executing them as a character and “executing” them
Yea, Sometimes you don't need a reason for someone to be evil, sometimes you just need a bad guy to be bad for the sake of it so the plot can move forward or so you have someone for a Hero to oppose. And while yes Villains with depth are good. There's upsides to just having a plain simple villain, like you don't have to alot of heavy lifting to give the villain a backstory and then there's the comedy potential and etc...I mean look at Jack Horner for example. Point is, sometimes things don't need a meaning to work, there doesn't have to be a "Why" for things to land. Overall a Villain is good aslong as you execute it well as Rayen said.
Jack Horner for example.
@@legendarygodzilla14no one can mention what he did wrong, like specifically.
@@legendarygodzilla14And Hades.
Toon - "there is nothing more boring than a villain that's just evil for the sake of evil"
Jack Horner - "oh well..."
I think the difference there is that movie has three villains; Death, Goldy and Horner.
Death is a force of nature, he's unstoppable and you can just hope to escape him and there no 'evil' to him. He's just what he is and Puss' hubris has brought Death down on himself, so we don't see Death as a villian in that same sense, but as a force that Puss needs to find a way to overcome. That makes Death less a main story villain and more the villain in Puss' personal story and character arc.
Goldy is very clearly the villain that can be redeemed and has a relateable motivation of wanting to find a family (but not looking at what she has before her) and the more we delve into her story, the more we want to see that, so it feels so good to see her and the bears get their happy ending.
Horner only works as straight up, unashamed evil because he bounces off the other two villains given he's somewhat like them, but also not. Death cannot be stopped, but can be impressed; Horner cannot be impressed at all and sees himself as superior and is somewhat a force that pushes through, no matter the cost. Goldy and the Bears can be redeemed and 'fixed' and eventually are when Goldy stops looking for whats out of her reach and what she has; Horner has nothing to redeem, he knows he's bad and embraces it, never caring about what he has (like his speech about all the things his family gave him and calls it 'useless crap') but only what he wants.
We can also relate to Horner's motivation that he had nothing of the special powers of other magical creatures, but we can see it with Goldy being the same as him, that he has no interest in any form of redemption and is just rotten to the core. Goldy on the same point, didn't let her jealously of no power define her, but more about her family and people she built relations with. At the end, while her relationships with the bears and Puss and co is what saves Goldy, Horner's lack of relationships does him in when the cricket and phoenix basically leave him to get his upcomance.
If you were to take Death and Goldy out of Last Wish, Horner solo would be a *terrible* villain and likely would not be able to hold that movie up on his own.
@@okuraorca oh well... I agree
Horner solo would be pretty terrible.
but still! He is not boring😁
I think it also works just cause he’s so unapologetically evil and is fully aware of it, while going all out of this fact.
Such has his childish laugh or doing evil acts without a second glance like it’s nothing, such as:
Cricket: “You’re not gonna shot a puppy are you?!”
Jack: “yeah in the face, why?”
Basically he’s so evil that you can’t take him seriously, and the film is aware of this and doesn’t take him seriously, even if he’s a real threat.
Alright, not to be the giant Hans twist defender here but Anna only knew him for a day WE only knew him for a few canonical days, the point is that when you know someone for a day and then immediately decide to get engaged there will be red flags that you either missed or have not showed through the person because it’s only been a day. It makes it less satisfying but slightly more realistic. And yes, it could have been a lot better, but I see why they took the direction.
@@girlpower_gacha well yeah he was largely a jab at old princesses falling in love at first sight, but he was still pretty mediocre.
Calhoun didn’t know about Turbo’s backstory and it was Felix who told her about Turbo.
Probably a mis remember
They were just plug in
@@calebpettigrew6835 correct, the words of that one solder, 'we've been plugged in a week!" so she is very new.
Considering how her and her game are relatively new, she’s probably not familiar with the term “going Turbo”, unlike most of the 80s/90s video game characters are.
I had to hit J fast to confirm if my ears did hear the sound of another blaintaint mistake in a YT video
I find it such an interesting idea because Turbo wasn't really a twist VILLAIN, but a twist character who happened to be a villain. What do I mean by this? It's not like he wasn't ALWAYS the villain, and just happened to turn out evil in a twist, he was ALWAYS an antagonist who was clearly in on the constant tormenting of Vanellope and allowed it to happen under his rule. The twist wasn't the fact that he was the villain, no- the character he ACTUALLY was is what became the twist though. It finally assigned motive to his actions and revealed WHY he was the way he was.
However, all of his actions become so much more frightening and important when you know he’s turbo. King Candy wasn’t entirely “evil” King Candy wasn’t entirely invalid in his concern to keep the game safe, but when he’s revealed it makes sense as to why he was so desperate to keep it safe! And he becomes evil enough to try and kill Ralph.
@@lyzzistormnightcore I guess it's really like turning from one type of villain to another, in this case lawful evil to chaotic evil in DnD terms. He was always doing things that are morally bad, but he was justifying it with upholding law and protecting his citizens. The only thing that the twist changed is from him doing it to protect the others, to him doing it to protect himself and his new world. After all, if he modified his appearance and everyone's memories using the game code, its very well possible that being forced to leave the game could revert those changes, ESPECIALLY if the game needed to be reset as a result of it.
The point is, he wasn't suddenly a villain, he was just a villain for new reasons that were previously not apparent about him.
"King Candy" was the film's antagonist, but he's not initially depicted as a villain. Antagonists oppose or challenge the protagonists' goals, but they're not always villains (characters with selfish or malicious motives). His plea to Ralph that he's protecting Venellope by not letting her race comes off as authentic until the reveal that she's possibly not a glitch at all.
@@FoxMoon89 it’s true that he was depicted as authentic until the twist, but that doesn’t change the fact that he willingly allowed and encouraged a stigma against a literal child with monstrous signs like we saw at the Go Kart Factory, and how he had his entire army chasing after both Ralph and Vanellope, which no reasonable man should need to do.
“Villain” is a term of moral perspective, so a character like Death Wolf in Puss in Boots is an antagonist, but not a villain (as he is a force of nature. Some argue that his bias against Puss makes him villainous, but he changes his perspective when Puss changes for the better, AND one could argue that he was only biased towards Puss in the same way death is biased towards people who do things that are statistically dangerous, like skydiving or playing football), whereas Jack Horner is a villain but not really that much of an antagonist. Jack Horner plays the role of an antagonist about as well as Goldilocks and the three bears do for 90% of the movie, and even Kitty was the same for the first portion of it. But, he was DEFINITELY a villain, even if barely a relevant antagonistic force in the movie.
So, back to this movie, King Candy is absolutely an antagonist, but he also shares some of the moral similarities with a villain, they just become far MORE pronounced at the twist. Really, it could be thought of that his clear allowance of Vanellope’s treatment was intended to be FORESHADOWING for the final reveal, putting it all into perspective, but the actions were always evil.
@@GameJam230 I'd still argue antagonist over outright villain because his intentions/morals initially seem more subjective. Sending his guard after her seems extreme until the reminder that glitches can and _have_ led to games being unplugged. Turbo invading Road Blasters got _both_ games unplugged, so a well-meaning but paranoid king who let fear overtake reason and compassion is a reasonable interpretation of King Candy pre-final act.
That's actually the direction I thought the film might be going when King Candy's reaction to Venellope escaping was fear/worry, rather than anger. Without knowing his real motives or identity, his nervousness makes you wonder if his actions are malicious or a product of fear and paranoia (and to what degree his fears are real or imagined).
Don't misunderstand - stigmatizing someone is _absolutely_ wrong and inexcusable. But motives rooted in safety/survival concerns are different from malice or disregard in there's a potential for change and accountability if the underlying fears are resolved or conquered .
and for some reason Disney pretended he didn't exist for years. He has such potential with a personality like this
The reason is obvious they hate good twist villains
@@Dovah_Slayer sadly, I think they did it to divert attention to Frozen as if the one with Hanz was the real first plot twist
Wow. No wonder they've been doing what they're doing, they clearly know what good writing is and refuse to have it. It's like Trash TV, but for movies. For all time's sake, can't we have Disney go bankrupt at least once?
I'm gonna watch that 2 hour long Turbo video again.
The Turbo-tastic vortex continues to SPIIIIIIN
@@Crazylom Yup! :D
agree
Same
its way better than this video. This video sucks.
Felix told Calhoun the story. Calhoun didn't know because she was new to the arcade
this video feels like it was written by AI
@@DouglasWalrathI had the exact same thought
@@DouglasWalrathFr they are constantly repeating the intro to each of the sections. Weird asf
He even says so exactly in the movie.
@@DouglasWalrath now that you mention it, yes, even the description looks like something an ai make
Wow i cant believe this came out just 5 days after randomalistic’s 2 hour analysis on the exact same topic. Great and interesting timing!
can you believe it was also MADE in five days! funny how that timing and toootally not blatant copying works 💀/lh
@@allien.777I wasn’t sarcastic enough in my comment lmao
@gooseyloosey0 SORRY lol yea fair i wasnt really trying to dig at you either, just the video uploader 💀
Turbo did NOT summon the Cybuggos
Yeah, I heard that and just thought “You’re giving Turbo way too much credit, dude”
Was looking for this comment lol
I knew it, I almost gasslit myself into thinking I was remembering wrong
I've said it before, I'll say it again. Hans would have been an amazing twist villain if he never tried to deceive Anna, that he kissed her... *_and nothing happened._* He would absolutely lose it, go insane, and go on a savage quest to slaughter Elsa because "it's the only way to save Anna", just make him NOT A LIAR, and he would work perfectly.
That actually would've made it so much better-
Oh, yeah, I forgot about the evil out of nowhere because evil villain.
Yeah well. But might have required creativity on Disney's part.
That or have Hans make the decision to go evil later. Maybe that duke guy gets it into his head that this is his chance at ruling, eggs him on.
Think about that scene after Hans first meets Anna. His horse accidentally drops him in the water, but he doesn't mind at all and smiles like he's genuinely so content that not even getting soaked can sour his mood. Most importantly, he was alone, so there was no need to put on a good guy performance.
That scene is a big part of why Hans is a bad twist villain. Twist villains hint about what they're like under their benevolent facade when they can get away with it. Take Hal Stewart from Megamind: he throws out a lot of hints that he's very selfish and creepy under his well-meaning but socially awkward guy appearance. But Hans barely if at all hints that he's a manipulator, and all his deeds and the above scene paint him as good as he acts, so his whole "I never actually loved you" bit is shoehorned as a result. Maybe if he went on his way after meeting Anna in a manner that hints that he loses interest in her as soon as she's out of sight, that could actually set up the twist.
One of my favorite touches in the movie is the fast forward in the arcade at the beginning. When you see Sugar Rush get installed the audience can see Vanellope on the side of the arcade cabinet. First time viewing though most people would miss it, or wouldn't pay it any mind, especially since it is at the very start of the movie.
She's also wearing a very different outfit with, if I recall correctly, a completely different color scheme, which makes her image both even easier to miss and serve as much heavier foreshadowing if someone _does_ catch it and recognize her face later! Brilliant, love it, 11 out of 10 detail choice.
Ya know that makes me wonder what the game would’ve been like if Turbo never invaded, because Vanellope is supposed to be the princess. It makes me wonder if her personality would be slightly different than our Vanellope, and what her fully design would look like since our Vanellope made her outfit herself
Whenever I heard about Turbo before his reveal, I thought he was just a bad omen, a cautionary tale, and other stuff that meant he wasn’t gonna matter any more than that. But all the mentions of him and the story were parts of the big foreshadowing to his reveal
I feel like this video repeats itself a lot. You should rewrite your script because you have good things to say but I stopped watching at 9:17 where I felt you’ve repeated stuff too much without anything new and I felt the video is going nowhere. I’m not trying to be mean, I just want you to know how I felt watching this for your future benefit.
This is a common shortcoming of ai-generated scripts.
No you're write don't feel bad about pointing incorrect and terrible writing
It's criticism, hating is saying.......
" this video is trash because I don't like his voice and I could do better because I my voice is better...."
You're giving criticism, allowing the creator to reflect and opted a resolution.
I watched this video on 1.25x speed then switched to 1.75x speed because this guy took too long to reach the prompt
The first 15 minutes is just filler, all he does is retell the whole movie, scene by scene, like an audiobook. Which is insane because we're here to listen for a new idea/perspective of the question/prompt. Which he didn't deliver correctly.
Lol i stopped at the same time
I literally just paused the video cause I thought the video looped or something
Another clue of Turbo’s identity is him getting scared of getting hurt when Ralph threatens him, even though if he was genuine he would just revive, but since he doesn’t belong to the game he would die for good.
Another clue is also his code box being significantly bigger than the other NPCs of the game
I wondered why it was so much bigger! Now I realize it's cause it used to take a lot more complex code to make a racing game that old VS penelope's newer, optimized obe
@@SpecialInterestShow yup, coding has a improved significantly since his time
@@dollmaker6599 yeah!! Until today I thought it was just symbolic thing showing he didn't belong there, or because he thought he was better than everyone else so his was bigger
But no (I mean, yes, but also) It's literally the amount of space needed for the code getting improved drastically over time! Wow!
A very VERY subtle cue was the sound the crown makes when landing on his head.
Watch the scene he meets up with Ralph to convince him to stop what he’s doing and listen closely when he’s jumping around.
The crown makes a sound like metal hitting something also inanimate- like plastic.
@@RogueT-Rex8468 I'm not sure I understand. Are you saying turbo is made of plastic?
I’m going to disagree on the “pure evil” villain point you made. Those characters rock ever since the twist era sort of ended
Jack Horner in specific as a stand out.
Though at the same time I think he only shined because the film made use of multiple antagonists, the big bad wolf with logical motivation, the goldilocks family with their redemption, etc.
Just a really well done film overall.
"Pure evil" works perfectly, but not as a twist villain. If Ursula or Jafar were presented as a good buy for 80% of the movie to suddenly make a turn at the end, they would be awful. If your character is pure evil just let them be evil from the start so the audience can enjoy seeing their plan come to fruition.
@@AgusSkywalker, I wouldn't consider Ursula "Pure Evil" considering that she cares for her two eel minions Flotsam and Jetsam, praising them when they do things for her and even mourning them after accidentally "erasing" them with the trident.
@@Yipper64 Pretty much this.
A pure evil villain needs something to bounce off of generally. Horner only works because of Death and Goldy also there and how they all have different values to the same ideas and how their differences shape them.
The fact that Goldy is saved because of the relationships she forges in the journey, while Horner burns every bridge to get what he wants is a prime example.
@okuraorca Or as more of a force of nature, Sauron isn't seen for most of the movie or book, yet he is a constant threat to our heroes and the world
I think what makes him so perfect, is that him being Turbo explains SO much all at once! It's the piece that makes everything else make sense.
Twists like that are the perfect kind. You build up so many questions, and answer them all at once.
Not sure if it's noted, but for those who can recognise voices would hear that during the Turbo backstory, Turbo's voice is exactly the same as King Candy's (both voiced by Alan Tudyk).
So happy Wreck It Ralph is getting recognized more and more as an actual masterpiece of a movie.. jt's been deserving of this for a while.
Me too I haven’t thought about it in a while and just rewatched it so I’m glad it’s getting attention again bc it’s so good!
holy jesus is this video padded. this could’ve easily been half as long
It also gets stuff wrong a lot throughout, it feels AI generated
Anything is possible with AI
narrator and video both feel very-very close to whatever the giraffe-furry guy who review cartoons here on youtube is called, barely any difference aside from the voice itself.
I’m glad I’m not the only one that notices that this shit goes in circles
Loving all the King Candy love recently, hopefully Wreck-it-Ralph gets more recognition as a modern classic
I agree!!
this script sounds so AI augmented. Like it was made in pieces that never realized how repetitive they sound.
The part at the end with the bullet points sounded so GPTslop that I immediately clicked on the channel just to see if the description would say that using AI scripts is its gimmick or something.
I agree or he's just a bad writer cause he just got stuff wrong aswell, "Turbo summons the Cybugs" being one of the obvious ones
He just repeats the same thing in different orders. It's so odd
i came to the comments expecting it to be filled with this! it was like the same paragraph over and over. at one point i was like did i restart the video💀
@@nothingishere2837and "Calhoun tells the story of Turbo" bro that was Felix telling the story
And that’s why Ralph Breaks the Internet is the Worst Disney Movie because it ruins the two main protagonists/Sends one of the worst morals/messages I’ve seen, and it completely ignores everything from the first movie!
There's worse Disney movies
@@anonymouslucario285indeed there is much worse Disney movies, but i can agrue that Ralph Breaks The Internet is definitely in my top 10 worst list
And that end credit scene, where they plagiarise Monty Python's "Wafer Thin Mint" sketch had no place in a kid's movie!
@@joshpetzoldt6344 I agree Ralph should be punished by blowing 1,000,000,000,000,000,000 huge balloons!
4:31 nft jumpscare
Who else is here after watching that recent 2 hour Turbo video from that bird PNG-tuber? Absolutely peak analysis if you haven’t seen it yet.
That's so real
Can you please give a channel name
@@WillowPillows Randomalistic or smt along those lines
@@WillowPillows randomalistic
@gooseyloosey0 too late, already stayed up until 9am last night watching their video
4:30 no way bro snuck his nft into this video 💀
Another good misdirect that ends up actually adding to Turbo/King Candy being the big villain is when he says to Ralph, "You're not going 'Turbo,' are you?!" He seems as disgusted and terrified of that idea as everyone else. We later find out, though, that that's because he's worried that Ralph will take his place.
This video went in so many circles
script made by ai
"there's nothing more boring than a villain who's just evil for the sake of evil"
Man, you can throw a dart into a crowd of pre-2005 Disney (animated) villains and hit maybe 1 or 2 who have an actually complicated motivation. The vast majority are evil for the sake of evil and are *amazing*. Scar, Jafar, Maleficent, etc.
Or go to 2022 Dreamworks, Jack Horner
I will die on this hill:
Hans would have worked as a twist villain if it weren't for the scene right after him and Anna meet where he watches her leave with Goo-Goo eyes and a warm smile. No one is watching him he doesn't have to perform for anyone and yet he's acting like a smitten teenager, without that scene everything else works, it's just maybe a little too subtle. Hans is the classic charming guy who only reveals how horrible and abusive he is once you are completely powerless against him.
This was very useful. I’m currently writing a apocalyptic sci-fi book and was originally just going to have the traitor to the good guys legit just pull a gun on them at some point but now I can modify that idea.
A. Her brother (who is also a traitor) could be the one who is revealed and it takes a while later for it to register with the Heroes that she might be working with her brother
B. I could give her the motivation that one of the heroes wronged her in the past.
C. Could give her an annoyed personality throughout the book.
D. Could also shift the focus to some characters whose loyalties are still in question.
That is- WOW. What’s this gonna be called?
You could also have that character avoid going to a place where a confrontation happened that led to her deciding to betray the party. Give her more of a reason besides "these people did something to me, so I'll do it to them", maybe some sort of psychosis or paranoia based on the fact it is the apocalypse.
Logically, the other characters would begin to suspect her once her brother is revealed as a traitor, so make her give them a reason to believe she wouldn't betray them too. Maybe she kills her brother in front of everyone and says it's so he won't hurt them, but in reality, it's because he became a liability to her plan.
this sounds awesome but I feel like if she's grouchy and annoyed it might be too obvious, a character who's seemingly likeable might be more shocking
you have to allude to others being the villain throughout but not too obvious. This is written in many books even simple ones like 'April fools' where the twist villain appears, or 'party line'.. two middle school books that have 'twist plots'.
@@rushinkomg that’s actually really good i was thinking the same about them logically thinking she would be in cahoots with the brother but her killing him bc he fucking up the plan & being the traitor at the end would be a great twist
Wreck-it-Ralph is so GOATED! Turbo is a great twist villain, done perfectly. This is literally my favourite movie of all time, partly ‘cause of nostalgia though
Was this script written by AI? The way you blatantly repeat yourself several times at best is padding the run time but it gives off the cadence of AI.
Glad someone brought this up I thought my video looped or something at 8:55 just being almost word for word from 1:50 I know he said as mentioned before but man you gotta word it differently
Randomalistic recently made a video on this exact topic in Wreck-It-Ralph, and the video has gotten a ton of traction and over 300k views. If the script is actually AI generated, I bet the person who made it is trying to capitalize off of Randomalistic's super popular (and very well made) video essay.
It kind of worked, since the only reason I clicked on this video is because of Randomalistic's essay.
I was wondering if anyone else thought this. The intro sounds straight out of ChatGPT...
Padding an essay by repeating oneself is not a concept invented or popularized by AI. I'm so tired of how apparently everyone has forgotten that humans are, in fact, not idealized perfect beings, and blame all sorts of things humans have been doing on their own for ages on AI.
@@somdudewillson well... maybe this was written by a middle schooller for a school project they procrastinated on until the last second? Plus, there are all of the basic errors that wouldn't be there with a slight bit of fact checking...
This is like the video version of repeating yourself in an esay 3x to make it longer. This vid should’ve legitimately been like maybe 10 mins long lmao.
Wreck-It-Ralph was peak storytelling, across the board. There are a lot of characters, but the movie never feels spread too thin, etc. Incredible efficiency and potency in storytelling.
That brief scene where Sonic explains how you never regenerate if you die outside your own game is one of the best exposition I’ve ever seen.
I’m am so intrigued at how much of a nothing burger this ai slop essay was
Ok so I’m not the only one who noticed he seems to be repeating the same paragraph over and over again but with different wording
@@azoth8031 Definitely. It’s like the introduction paragraph lasted for ten minutes
welcome to AI, a hole lot of nothing packed as something.
Did you see the things that are just wrong throughout, interpretations things that actually happened in the movie, the script even goes back to say something different about a scene he already covered, that being where Turbo is revealed first he says "the old code takes over as they are racing and he is revealed" then a few minutes later says "turbo reveals himself on purpose" as if he wasnt just glitching out his persona as he was getting frustrated to the point it disappeared
@@nothingishere2837 There is someting funny yet creepy about AI text.
Like you want to shout out how its wrong but it dont care, it cant.
It just a endless stream of bs and hot air.
You know for a villain, Turbo/Candy’s plan is very insanely smart.
He wants to be the star of the game, but realizes that there may always be another arcade console that will be the “next big thing” that kids are gonna wanna play. So what better way than to disguise himself as a racer PC, let alone be one of the main characters of it, in order for him to get all the attention he wants.
With Sugar Rush, he just so happen to get a two for one by turning Vanellope into a glitch, removing any memory that she’s the kingdom’s ruler, SO THAT HE CAN HE BE THEIRS.
But he made ONE FATAL MISTAKE.
He forgot to repaint the castle. Seriously, to this day I’m surprised nobody has ever caught that detail…..
"theres nothing more boring than a villian thats evil for the sake of evil"
Jack Horner is a huge exception, he was wonderfully executed, he is just evil because yes, but all his reasonins are very clear since the beginning, he just doesnt care about anything else but his own good, and its amazing
Pretty late but one thing I noticed in King Candy’s design is that he doesn’t have much candy in his outfit. The other racers and Vanellope have some form of candy in their outfit. Another thing I noticed is King Candy’s racing car. It’s mostly white and also doesn’t have much candy, absent of color. This is the complete opposite of sugar rush since almost everywhere you look there is color and vibrant.
I wouldn’t say that turbo’s motivation is a sympathetic one because his motivation isn’t that he wanted to be remembered and didn’t want to die (at least that’s not his main motivation portrayed) but instead it was to be the main character and for everyone to love him, which he selfishly sacrifices innocent characters in another, more popular, game out of jealousy to make him the one in the spotlight again
I would say Ratcliffe's motivation is to simply be like other conquerors like Cortez and Pizzaro who are mentioned by name in the song "Mine Mine Mine."
Someone call Hbomberguy, someone's plagiarising
pls 💀 u right
He's in a sense a TRIPLE twist villain. First is the twist that could be seen from a mile away, that Kind Candy is actually a villain. Next is the shocking reveal that he's turbo. Finally, he shows up a third time as a glitchy cy-bug creature. I feel like these all qualify as some level of twist, which makes him the perfect twist villain.
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I think a great contributing factor is also the fact that King Candy was established as his own antagonist before the twist set in.
You wouldn't expect an already-established villain to later turn out to be a twist villain.
King Candy already had his own agenda and distinguished set of motivations. He had everything he needed to be his own character. That's why you would never see it coming. You look at him and think you already know everything about him and what's doing, but you don't.
I liked Callahan, a grieving father who’s sense of reason has been corrupted by his pain over the loss of his daughter is a great story, I don’t understand why people seem dislike him so much.
Sponsorblock has absolutely demolished this video, lmao!
Despite the fact that you got a lot of plot points from the movie wrong, such as who tells what happened with turbo (that was Felix, NOT Calhoun) and why the cybugs attacked sugar rush (they had slowly been festering under the surface on they’re own, King Candy had no relation to them at all) this was a fairly good review of the twist villain. What made it so refreshing was that the twist wasn’t that he was the villain, but that the villain was a different villain.
4:08
I think you’re mistaken on who was the character explaining turbo’s backstory! It was Felix who told Calhoun about turbo’s backstory since she was newly plugged in and didn’t know about it yet! :3
Saw wreck it ralph in theaters opening night, and the audible gasps throughout the theater at the abrupt Turbo reveal was unforgettable.
The sheep in zootopia was shown being bullied or pushed or Stepped On by every Predator that she came in contact to what do you mean there was no precedence for her being evil or that they showed absolutely nothing in the movie for her to suddenly change. Ever since she was in they show the chance for her to be the bad guy
Because they don't establish anything of her being evil. There's no clues or small details that add up.
Yes, she gets pushed about, but rewatching Zootopia, I can't see previous scenes with her that hint to her being the ultimate mastermind. There's no big clues that we overlooked besides she's a meek character getting pushed about. Sure, she has motivation and reason, no disputing that. But her reveal as the villain doesn't change really any context of previous scenes with her or the overall secret story of the movie's villain. It's just *dropped* on us to gasp and be surprised without the actual build up.
Think of it this way; Zootopia is a buddy cop mystery movie. Except when rewatching, there's no clues to the villain's identity or motives beforehand, meaning it fails as a mystery given that you can't solve the mystery from the clues. The villain is just... revealed in a way to surprise and shock you. It's why some of the newer Scooby Doo shows are bad compared to older ones, because they focus on the funny gags and villains that make no sense, vs having an actual mystery you can work out before the story does it for you.
Hey had a solid idea for the sheep’s character, she just didn’t have enough presence in the movie to really flesh it out. She was supposed to be a Palpatine-like character, manipulating things behind the scenes, trying to get the protag on her side, etc. we saw her getting pushed around, and she just happened to be there to get Judy on the job and supported Judy from the beginning. However, she has so little presence, we basically forget about her by the time of the reveal. If they made the sheep become Judy’s first friend in Zootopia, and had her reach out to Judy every so often, calling her to let Judy vent her frustrations, helping Judy get a good lock on her door because Judy is just one little prey animal in a big city of predators, and it’s just not safe, offering to pull some strings to get Judy a real case, warning Judy to not get too close to the fox, just in case. These small things would have added for substance to her character and given us more hints about how she feels about predators and how smart she actually is, it could also have made the reveal more meaningful to Judy and us if the sheep was a friend instead of a background character.
i see a bunch of comments proposing this was an AI-script, or AI video, so probably there was very little involvement with an actual human who might have watched and/or analyzed the movies.
an amazing hint towards King Candy being Turbo...was his fear and panic when Ralph tried to attack him, because he's NOT from Sugar Rush
meaning he would not regenerate, he'd actually die if Ralph squashed him
1:51 I honestly don’t think he cares about either of those things at all. It’s just a thin veil for staying in power. He literally breaks tradition by game jumping so that he can disturb the order, and feed his own ego. He’s only intolerant to Vanellope because he knows that She’s a direct threat to the status quo that “King Candy” benefits from the most.
"There's nothing more boring than a villain who's evil for the sake of evil."
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Did you only make this to capitalize off of Randomalistics video less than a week ago? This sounds like chatGPT slop.
That's because it is with the loops it goes around and the things that are wrong, or the scene where Turbo is revealed being shown twice with two different descriptions of why he showed up 1 being the games original code is shining through when that can only happen after Penelope finishes the race, and that he chose to reveal himself which made no sense.
when the actual reason is pretty obvious that he couldnt contain his form as King Candy as he was getting ever so frustrated with the fact his whole scheme could fall apart so he glitched back into Turbo. or when it says "Turbo Summons the Cybugs" thst is obviously wrong
@@nothingishere2837 I think it was touching Vanellope while she was glitching that broke Turbo's avatar.
@@DoctorPhileasFragg I could see it as both
His back story, his set up and his reveal, gave me such goosebumps, DISNEY WHERE ARE THESE VILLIANS!!!
You know Elsa actually had a bad feeling about hans from the first look she saw at him. It appears she has a keen eye and knows politics better than anna Hans acted so well no one else suspected he even took control over the entire country and still no one suspected the reason he failed was because he became impatient and didn't see anna's death through or else he would have had all. secondly the sheep from zootopia. When you think about it she was actually a perfect villain who was always behind the shadows and nobody would really suspect like a wolf in a sheeps cloathing. The whole point is it is a mystery series and the whole point was to find out a criminal hiding in plain sight.
This is either clearly AI slop or very poorly written since it is so redundant
No cuz for real?
Just a slight correction, Turbo/King Candy doesn't summon Cybugs, that's just something else that is also happening at the same time. Cybugs are essentially a third party until Turbo gets eaten by one.
When turbo was revealed, my whole body shivered a lil bit, no other movie has done me like that
in my opinion, while Bellwether wasn't a good twist villain, she was a solid villain, villain. Like, her actions made sense. Her plan was fear. Dart predators and make them go savage. The issue was that they kept going missing. So she used a eager, gullible, rookie cop to do her dirty work for her. After all, if they remain missing, her plan won't work. And it would be far too suspicious if she found them (Or maybe she didn't know where they were, which would give another reason why she helped.)
So, while her being a twist villain failed, her plan as a villain was solid and it actually worked. At least until the cop figured out what was happening and then things fell apart.
Adding to this, I have a feeling she didn't frame the mayor. Again, her plan was to dart predators as a fear tactic. It doesn't make sense for Bellwether and the mayor to be in cahoots. Odds are, they had no idea what the other was doing. I think Lionheart actually was doing his best to understand what was happening and fix it. Which made him look bad when the animals were found.
Great video! I think the greatest twists (whether villain, plot, etc.) in a story are the ones that very few pick up on the first time viewing, but then when you go back and review the story, you see all the breadcrumbs and it recontextualizes so many other moments in the story. That’s what makes the plot twist in the Sixth Sense so great - when the big twist happens, all of the clues become obvious and then it makes you rethink and reinterpret all previous scenes in the movie.
"Turbo simply didn't want to be unplugged and forgotten" I only half agree with that. Turbo's real issue was that he couldn't stand being upstaged. THAT'S why he left his game, invaded another game, glitched out, and got both games unplugged. THEN, like a coward he went into hiding and did the same thing to vanillope. Only that time he learned from his mistakes and was able to perfectly hide in plain sight. If his plan was to avoid being forgotten he technically got his wish and gained a reputation as a cautionary tale. Nobody in the arcade forgot about Turbo.
4:06 It was actually Felix who explained going Turbo to Calhoun, since her game just got plugged in and Felix’s game was around long enough to even get to the tell the tale
i don't want to pull nasty acusations but... i cant shake off the feeling this was AI written. i maight be imagening things tho, ive been spending lotsa time with GPT wrighting face video scripts, so i maight just imagening
there’s 3 types of ways a twist villain can be played out.
1. we see both sides. we see the antagonist doing suspicious things on their own but also dropping hints while talking to the protagonists
2. we get a full villain pov like in joker. we get to see him change into a villain because of being looked down upon by society
3. we get just the protagonist view like in zootopia. we don’t see any scenes of just her doing suspicious. we just get the protagonists pov and i personally believe that works well for zootopia. it’s not ment to really be a twist villain. but YOU get the detective pov. it’s like you’re the detective and you’ve just cracked the case by finding the main guy
I swear this was written by chat-gpt
That’s what I’m thinking
I'd like to say the twist also works because turbo wasn't setup as a villain, he was setup as an example of what people thought ralph was becoming. 'going Turbo' was always shown in the context of, 'this is what happens when a character leaves thier game'.
So king candy being turbo felt like those threads were being tied together. King Candy knew how to access the game code because he'd done it before as Turbo.
Candy being Turbo brings further context to his actions, in a way that makes sense. while also being a reflection on Ralphs actions and desires.
Alright, not to be the giant Hans twist defender here but Anna only knew him for a day WE only knew him for a few canonical days, the point is that when you know someone for a day and then immediately decide to get engaged there will be red flags that you either missed or have not showed through the person because it’s only been a day. It makes it less satisfying but slightly more realistic. And yes, it could have been a lot better, but I see why they took the direction.
Wait you have a point! I never really thought about it after watching the movie years ago but the explanation does make sense, I like that you pointed that out :)
"Red flags you missed" depicted in a film would look like the masterful foreshadowing described in this video.
@@DoctorPhileasFragg not saying they did it perfectly but I see where they were going with it
I overheard some kids when working taking bout Wreck-It Ralph about how cool King Candy was so this movie definitely did wonders
he was brought up in my animation class last semester 😭
this came out 5 days after randomalistic's way more in-depth video about the same topic, and is likely plagiarized, go give that one a watch
A good reference for how to write twist villains is Attack On Titan. Without spoiling who the twist villains are, the show does a really good job at foreshadowing it.
i'm nearly certain this was written by ai
The reveal of King Candy being Turbo was so great and one of my favorites in years. Another slightly subtle hint that I've seen brought up outside of what we're shown in the movie itself, is the casting of Alan Tudyk. A lot of people know him for playing twist villains (though I honestly can't think of too many times he has played a villain). It was his casting in Big Hero Six that also helped the initial belief that his character was the villain there as well.
For myself, his story and methods were actually kind of creepy. Im generally fascinated by glitches in video games. Its a level of uncanny valley for me. Its not meant to be there, we arent suppised to see it, and often its off from the overall vibe of the game. On all levels its wrong. So Turbo goibg into other games feeds into that same feeling for me. Great all around imo
I found Hans realistic though. Plenty of slim ball guys seem fine at first and don't drop hints that they're, well, slim balls. Once his real side comes through, then it's like "oohhhh....." he has too many older brothers and he "fell" for her so fast and he was so dedicated, that's why. It was all a good act. Not ever person who is a bad news is a dumb as Turbo, some are actually pretty clever.
I think Hans is a very good personification of narcissistic manipulation
It would've worked uf he actually kissed her kept up the facade and when nothing happened left her to die, that makes all the difference to make it work better, alomg with making him seem annoyed with Anna at some times
@@nothingishere2837 Hans revealed his plot because he understood that the kiss wouldn't have worked and Anna would've found out upon the kiss failing to cure her sickness.
@@neonmenace1592 that's why the kiss would've made it work better
@@nothingishere2837 no it wouldn't have. If he never reveals his motives, he's just evil for the sake of being evil. His reveal shows that, despite the audience's belief, his intentions aren't genuine, and he believes that Anna has no chance of living, as he wouldn't have revealed his plans had she plausibly been able to stop him
I feel like Spiderman: Homecoming is another example of a great plot twist/villain reveal. The best plot twists don't have to be a big twisty plot twist, they can be the most obvious twist but the story has to be so gripping that you're not bored enough to notice. How good a plot twist is, isn't based on the twist, it's based on how good the story is around it to distract you from the twist.
king candy was never evil to be evil. he saw what the glitch he caused did to the other games, and he was afraid the same would happend to the candy racing game
It's because the twist wasn't that he was evil, it's that he was *Turbo*
The script sounds like AI
Yeah i thought i was going crazy with how he repeats the same things like over and over. Wouldbt be surprused if it was ai gen
Yup. Keeps repeating the same points over and over again while also contradicting some (like how it initially says part of why King Candy is a good twist villain is because "he's obviously evil but it's his true nature that's a surprise", but then minutes later says "he's a good twist villain because they do a good job of establishing him as one of the good guys".
That first mention of Turbo deserves special attention. If you're not a gamer then you see it as some gamer slang you don't recognize, but if you are a gamer then you remember third party controllers being advertised with a turbo button. A button which allows you to cheat by circumventing human limits to have the controller autopress the buttons for you far more rapidly than you would normally be able to. So to bring that back to Ralph, it sounds like the other villains are concerned that Ralph is attempting to break the rules of his game to be something that he is not.
In essence, if you are a gamer then you are privy to a major plot point before the introduction of the film's antagonist.
Hans was obvious in a way. Disney doesn't do love triangles. And then Kristoff was introduced, who ended up being the more obvious love interest. it was obvious. "You just met him, you can't marry a man you just met." We just missed it at first, because we are so USED to that formula from Disney. it was a play on the Disney princes, marrying the princesses they barely know. He gave no warnings to us - but everyone else in that movie did.
In a writing perspective it was obvious, as evidenced by the statements you pointed out. Like as an outside onlooker audience if you were analyzing the writing it just made sense Hans isnt end game. But I also get what the video is saying. If you were not being analytical on how the character was written and how Disney tried to subvert the princess tropes, like a POV as a character in the story, then Hans really lacked the compelling points within the plot in-universe to be a satisfying twist villain.
@@shinryouzenHans wasn't supposed to be satisfying upon the reveal. Hans was supposed to scare the audience. In Wreck it Ralph, people know that something is up with King Candy, and the audience is hesitant to trust him, as his malicious nature is hinted at early on in the film. In Frozen, the audience trusts Hans's intentions, despite not wanting him to marry Anna. Upon a rewatch, it's easier to spot his manipulation tactics, but the thing that makes him a good villain is that he manipulates the audience as well as the characters in the film.
I personally don't prefer either villain to the other, but I don't think either of their twists is inferior to the other.
@@neonmenace1592 If Hans was handled as he was in order to scare the audience, then scaring the audience is an inferior or subordinate narrative consideration to foreshadowing and payoff. King Candy/Turbo is more satisfying to watch and rewatch in every way.
wreck-it Ralph was such a good movie. instant classic for sure.
you copied randomalistic
Disney: **makes the worst twist villains of all time**
Also Disney:
Zangief's not a villain. I will die on this hill.
One thing though, that I think is interesting about Turbo is how much more deliberate he is as King Candy. Gone are the days where he’d just do damage on a whim (like entering a certain Roadblasters) out of pure jealousy and spite. With his new alter ego, he seems more in control of himself, using his random laughter as a way to vent and keep himself in line so that he can keep going with his plans to fully control Sugar Rush. It just seems like in his 15+ years of being a game jumper, he’s learned a lot about how to put up a convincing facade.
Oh yeah… parrot lady right? Yeah you got inspired by her right?
way too many writers miss that the twist villain should only be unexpected on first/casual watch
Why does this video feel like 3 separate videos merged into a compilation? You keep introducing other twist villains like 4 times as if you haven't talked about them yet.
That's because it's an AI Script with how he loops, and gets things wrong throughout the video
The fact that at the end he mostly remains as candy and not turbo is kinda genius
Like the audience sees as king candy as the villain since his character was fleshed out
Another example of a bad twist villain is scooby doo mystery incorporated. I actually put the pieces together as soon as baylor hotner appears after the cry baby clown and photography. Its bad
I will never forget the feeling of pure shock and gasps everyone in the theater had when Turbo revealed himself. It was just so perfect and unexpected, which is a real shame that said feeling has yet to be replicated in any of future movies to date...
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What I find makes the reveal so good is that it doesn’t add any new story points. The pieces are all present throughout the story, the only thing the twist provides is the connection
Turbo funciona tan bien como plow twist porque hasta ahora empezaba eso hasta que Disney sobreexploto el concepto
this was such a great analysis of the movie. I really enjoyed it and wish it had more success than it did. The sequel was a little off, but the concept as a whole was solid. I'll admit the twist of king candy caught me off guard. I wasn't sure what was going on but i enjoyed every minute of it. from the nostalgia to the concept of video games being a living, breathing universe.