Why Gen Z Men Reject Feminism
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Ask Google "why is my wife yelling at me" and it will tell you to be considerate towards her feelings.
"Potential triggers for a wife's yelling include feeling unheard, financial stress, mental health struggles, disrespect, etc. It's important to understand the root cause."
Ask Google "why is my husband yelling at me" and it will give you the domestic abuse hotline.
This is what social engineering looks like.
So fucked up..
TH-cam is the only google product I use. You really think a company who programmed their AI to not return images of white families isn't gonna hate men?
I just tested this and for me it was the opposite
"why is my wife yelling at me" resulted in Emergency numbers and helplines in Belgium
"why is my husband yelling at me" resulted in My Husband Yells At Me: 10 Common Reasons
I have seen this in the CEO Diary Podcast with Dr. K. Society is declining so fast because of the internet, it's crazy
The same goes for most AIs like ChatGPT and Bing. Not only do they say things like "if your wife says 2+2 is 5, then she must be right", but they also don't generate images of male characters being remotely violent with female characters. Oh, but they will happily show strong female characters beating up male characters.
Modern ideology
Fighting for equality ❌
Only my group matters 👍
There is nothing modern about this. This is literally the whole human history.
Whenever it was something else, it is just that the various group interests aligned.
@@cocosusprime the language is modern, womeneze. Before it were just strong men will come "we gonna butcher you and take your resources"
Today it's masked with "equality"
@@TheScience69, we always do.
Equal Rights, Equal Fights
Rightwingism is the norm of all things. But as Agent Smith said during the first Matrix Movie
*_" Did you know that the first Matrix was designed to be a perfect human world? Where none suffered, where everyone would be happy. It was a disaster. No one would accept the program. Entire crops were lost. Some believed we lacked the programming language to describe your perfect world. But I believe that, as a species, human beings define their reality through suffering and misery. The perfect world was a dream that your primitive cerebrum kept trying to wake up from. "_*
To me all those Leftie & Progressive ideologies are an attempt to twist the true nature of all things and create "fronts" and problems that just aren't real and truly just an opinion.
And this all just becomes dangerous when those *BORED PEOPLE WHO REFUSE TO REALIZE HOW GOOD THEY HAVE IT,* vehemently defend their crazy ideologies.
They refuse to accept that the perfect rightwingism world effortlessly ensures happyness.
There is not enough misery within it for them to feel like their lifes have an important mission cause there are no problems to solve.
Schrödinger's feminism: a woman is simultaneously a victim and empowered, until something happens. Then she chooses which state benefits her the most
Does well: Woman power.
Fails: Men did it.
"They're not trying to win an argument, they're trying to shut down an argument."
TRUE
You can't debate feminists. I've tried on a variety of forums. If you gain any ground or paint them into a corner you will get banned for 'misogyny' or 'trolling' within minutes, not days.
Also TH-cam auto deleting "offensive" comments (inconvenient truths)
He said under a video that is nothing but whining and demanding that the argument should just be shut down.
basically the left
I wonder if the Kotaku women will see this video and claim Asmongold is a alt-right misogynist because he cares about men's issues.
100% they will, and so will r/gamingcirclejerk
They 100% will. They are animals backed into a corner and they are just preaching to their choir now. Can't wait for Kotaku to fold and we can all tell Alyssa Mercunte to go learn to code.
And then block him again.
Kotaku only writes guides now
They don't want equal rights, they want superiority
Feminism’s problem is treating 99% of the average man as if they are the top 1% of men that are in office and actually have power. I’m not oppressing anybody, on average women probably make more $ than I do. But yet I’m treated like I’m a senator trying to pass laws against women, or I’m somehow more well off because I potentially have an ancestor 200 years ago who had slaves.
Everyone has an ancestor who owned slaves. Literally everyone.
@@jacobwiren8142 Only if you mean slavery in the broadest sense. Most people do not have an ancestor who engaged in a system of racially-dictated chattel slavery. Being a temporary indentured servant, with full rights as a citizen, is not the same as being property.
@@jacobwiren8142no they don't, slaves were expensive, if you are working class and come from a long line of working class people your family probably never owned slaves.
@@BH-te5fsactually the only places that didn’t happen were racially homogenous
@@sludge164 My guy, go far enough back in your family tree and someone has owned slaves. Slaves have been around for thousands of years, if you're going to argue that your ancestors didn't own, work, or take slaves, you're woefully naive.
It's not that it's "unfair" that a 19 year old man can watch his 19 year old female counterpart making 8k/week. It's that she makes 8k a week while complaining about how hard life is for women compared to men.
If she's making 8K per week, data shows that she's overwhelmingly likely to be receiving, on average, approximately 70%-75% of the 10K+ per week a man is receiving for the exact same job. Ignoring sh-t like that is why this video is nothing but whining that will perpetuate the conversation, not end it. You want it ended? End those kinds of disparities. That's the straight-line, path of least resistance, fastest way to achieve the goal of no longer having to have this conversation.
@@esqueejy The original comparison was that an 19 year old girl can make way more money doing Onlyfans than any 19 year old guy could earn doing any kind of job. 8k a week is about 420k a year, and you are saying that she is receiving less than a man doing the same job? How many male OF creators are receiving even close to 420K a year?
@@thecombatwombat7652 She deserves to make that complaint if she's making 70% of what a man makes for doing the same exact job.
@@esqueejy There are zero situations in which a woman makes 70% of what a man makes for the "same" job. You're being lied to with statistics to get an emotional reaction out of you. That statistic has largely been proven false. The reasoning is managerial positions vary A LOT when it comes to salaries. A man can make 70% of what another man makes, because he hasn't demanded a higher wage nor worked for it.
In static salary ranges, it is illegal to pay someone based on gender.
If what you were saying was true, companies would hire only women, since they could pay them less and pocket more profit... but they can't do that because it doesn't exist.
@@esqueejy ... The male-female wage gap doesn't apply to Only Fans what are you talking about??? Are you high???
Growing up and watching the societal shift over the last 2 decades or so made it almost impossible for any sane man to be / stay a feminist. Women were behind and struggling in some ways, so we changed literally everything to help and cater to women. That's fine! I'm okay with that, I want everyone to have equal opportunity. Now, men are behind and struggling, and what do women say? "Man up", "that's men's problem", "women are just better". Women have really showed their true colours, and yes I'm confident in that generalisation.
Look up the statistics for college attendance and graduates by gender, look up deaths of despair, look up homelessness, look up sentence inequality, job mortality, the list goes on. Men are hanging on by a thread and yet feminism keeps grinding. Women look at the top 0.0001% of men, these rich CEO types, and cry about oppression, not realising that the majority of men are way below them already.
"Amen sis" "preach" "yas queen"
Generalization isn't helping, it cheapens your otherwise solid statement.
@@ba3725 When I see a single reason to believe it's not all women, I'll say it.
@@Koroar I don't think you've talked to a large enough variety of women recently. There's a bunch of very kind-hearted women I know, and it looks to me that you've only been exposed, either through social media or through real life, to the kind that you mentioned in ur comment. I believe a lot of what you're saying though, because I've met a lot of nasty women who hope for all men to suffer and all that (and those appear to be the ones that surround you online/irl) but u just gotta trust me when I say not all women are like that.
Sorry if my answer seems like it sucks, but I feel like for this type of question, rather than answering with statistics that some people may prefer (like "according to a survey by Rice University, only 12.3% of women in the U.S. believe in true gender equality"), it's better to use empirical evidence, so yeah.
@@user-wr2lq8nm6d Women can feign humility and morality all they want. Theyre kind hearted so long as they have something to gain from it. Women dont go agaisnt the norm, and at the end of the day theyre not gonna be there for you. Im sure every guy that went through a painful soul crushing divorce once though that they had "the one".
"If you want a word about gender equality, it shouldn't be gendered"
I HAVE BEEN SAYING THIS FOR OVER A DECADE NOW
Never heard of this my entire life but it just hit me like a bunch of bricks. Yeah, why is it gendered? Let's make sure, whatever it is, both side gets the same.
But that's socialism
It should have been called, 'equalism'. It refers to the point of equality, and authentic fairness, without including the presupposition of a gendered favoritism bias.
Same. First I heard of feminism and what it apparently stands for I thought ‘what a unnecessarily one-sided term’. No matter how you slice it it implies that either men or masculinity is a bad thing.
But what if they don't actually want it?
"They are not trying to win an argument, they are trying to shut down an argument". Perfectly said Asmon.
exactly RIGHT.
Yeah
Asmon's opinions have gotten way more fair than they used to be. It's refreshing. Props to him for doing the homework.
They are just trying to win rather than argue
Unfairness at its highest degree.
@@joshanonline Except when it comes to Christians and to Melonie Mac. He immediately assumes the worst possible conclusion and argues in bad faith and makes tons of strawman arguments, and when told he makes a straw man he does it again.
In 100 years they will describe our society as the age of madness.
You assume the insanity won't get worse and become predominant.
Madamness
@@philosophos4893 If it isn't stopped today then yes,it'll go worse and worse,potential dystopian society!
Go back 100 years and tell me it wasn't more mad. I think we're exiting the long age of madness. It's an uncomfortable transition, and we seem prone to relapse.
@@SamBourgeois-mr4hq Not true
Yet again, pretending that bad things happen to both sides equally.
Its... simply... NOT... true.
Every fucking time someone even attempts to address men's issues or men in general almost exclusively, they still for some reason have to pay lip service to women.
It looks pathetic.
It is pathetic
And then saying as many men say women are the problem as women do. NO! NOWHERE close! 🤦🏾♂️
That's exactly how feminism was perceived at first, give it more time and exposure showing your men real issues and one day your cause will be heard, it's the same with every new addressed social issue, it takes time to resolve generational injustices, and a lot of fights too.
"No one wants to be born with Original Sin, they wrote a while book about it." Is lowkey one of the best jokes Asmon has ever made lol
XD that was kinda funny and clever
i dont get it
@@Chocolatnave123 the bible
The main character said we were all born with original sin and should treat each other nicely. People got so pissed, they nailed him to a cross.
@@erikrungemadsen2081 Jesus didn't really talk about original sin very much. The closest he got was when he said "He who has not sinned cast the first stone". But original sin was a doctrine of the theologian St Augustine of Hippo.
"How many women directed genocide throughout history and how many men?"
Historically, queens in Europe were 40% more likely to start wars than kings.
And Queen Mary I literally committed a genocide against protestants. But even though there was someone who literally had the nickname "Bloody Mary", "there would be no wars if women ran the world".
If you notice the more chaotic politics and world events have become has been so since more females have entered the realm. I think there was a reason throughout history why females were not allowed to vote or hold important positions. Far too emotional and irrational
Don’t confuse them with facts
That’s true relatively speaking but since there were 95% male leaders more male caused them.. its a shit statistic that doesnt say much. Besides that, i do agree with you.
Asmon rich non working male is very disconnected from this subject and has many poor takes on this subject.
Elizabeth Bathory inspired the entire myth of the vampire with her atrocities.
Feminism was never about gender equality, even in the beginning. Many of the historical claims of feminism are simply one-sided interpretations of how genders were/are required to function in society. For example, women claim to have had less job opportunity back 100 years ago, and while that might have been true, it was due to the fact that men were expected and required to support a family. Women were not required to support their families with the money they earned. So giving jobs to women would lead to supporting 1 person, giving jobs to men would mean supporting 2-3+ people. Another one: men got the vote just because they HAD to go to war. Women claim they had a lot of limitations and obligations, but so did men. Both sexes were oppressed by their obligations.
Men were allowed to vote because they were the only onse conssidered to make rational decisions.
I'm keeping that somewhere in the back of my mind
While men were traditionally the breadwinners in the household, that did also give them more social power and freedom. Womans limited job opportunities also stemmed from the lack of educational opportunities, legal rights etc. In the early 1900s more universities admitted women, but the choices were more restricted to fields deemed appropriate for women at the time. In the US until the 1970s woman couldn't open their own bank account without a man, be it her father or her husband as a co-signer. Also, why wouldn't she spend her money on her children? Its not like women today only spend money on themselves.
Men didn't even get the vote until after so many of them died in WWI that it was seen as unfair that men could be sent to die by a government they have no say in.
@@Johannarori X
3:31 That's what I've always been confused about since I was a kid. The name "feminism" itself inherently leans toward women yet everyone says it's just about equality.
They should call it equalism.
@@asmyself4021cringe, just call it egalitarianism
@@yeetman4953 The problem about egalitarianism is that its unclear about the topic at hand: You want equality for sexes, races, ages, religions, plies of toilet papers? Feminism narrow the topic to the issue at hand, so I have no problem with it (since it "should" try to bring the women up to par with men in most areas). The problem is the feminazis hijacking the movement
It started with feminism and then someone thought the same as you and egalitarianism was born.
It was for the first two waves, then waves three and four came along and it was no longer fighting for "equality" but supremacy.
The hardest feminist will tell men to share their feelings but the moment we talk about double standards or anything that even slightly puts women in a negative light, they minimize what you say
No.
@@admaanhason7410 Yes, I've seen it happen in real time and to myself. If you don't and the people around you don't do it that's great. It doesn't mean a lot of people do.
Buy your "male tears" coffee cup.
They want you to share approved feelings.
Girlfriend: ''Why are you always so stoic? You need to share your feelings with me!''
Boyfriend: *Cries over the fact that his mother, dog, and brother all died recently*
Girlfriend ''Ew'' *breaks up with him*
Schrödinger feminism : every women is the eternal victim of men AND strong independant woman who can do everything better then men. Now when something happen (when the box is open) they choose the more rewarding status.
What's disheartening is most women happily take advantage of this too. Which means most women don't actually have principles they find immutable, they simply act based on what is best for them in the moment.
@@waiwai5233… I mean you’re right, but you don’t have to be an incel about it…
yes, thats women in a nutshell, they are not actually good.@@Bonesawisready926
you must watch "Kevin Samuels" the stuff these girls on his show are saying is unbeliveable, you cant even make this sh.. up^^
@djandjb1 Oh so just by speaking is inshell , LoL
You see the Protection the glorious (0) Owulala the VgnalGold HAHAHAHAHA *YOU* *WILLINGLY* HAHAHAHA s
It’s pretty funny watching Asmon try to say that women aren’t a causal factor in this instance given that every relationship he has with women in his life starts with him giving them money and ends the moment he stops doing so.
😂😂
Honestlly, he's trying too hard to justify it.
I know he wants people to stop blaming externals and pull themselves together, but eventually you have you mention the elephant in the room..
he also tries waaaaaay too hard to "balance it out" by claiming that women have these problems as well, while at the same time ignoring that it's on a totally different scale
@@Bloodhovenwell hes smart enough to know if he says the truth without adding in to much bs he will get perma shadowed
Absolute burn
Who is pushing to remove those positive masculine role models from modern media? That's right, the same people who complain about "toxic masculinity".....almost seem intentional doesn't it?
While they make their "strong girlboss characters" loaded with the so-called toxic masculinity they despise and call the audience sexist when it doesn't appeal to them.
@@KAMFP extactly
Too many people value being "right" over solving a problem.
Not everything is a problem ...just live and accept people being not too perfect....
What if the solution is sexist, racist, phobic and all slurs they throw at you. When they won't acknowledge the problem how can we talk about the solution.
I hard disagree. I think it's about emotions and control and has nothing at all to do with being right. The right answers should be obvious and simple but it gets muddled for an agenda.
@@DrHuxley- There is no obvious answer for this. It's too complex. I honestly do not think there is an answer. I was saying years ago that Japan was just ahead of the curve. Well. The US has caught up to where Japan was and Japan is further still. All those years ago Japan didn't have social media or Tinder. What they had was an economic system after the crash that incentivized being single and an absolutely exploitative toxic work culture. Some other social stuff in their too, and they didn't have this version of feminism. But those were the two big problems. Back then it was mostly men checking out after looking at it. Now it's both men and women. Well. The US is catching up fast to where Japan was. Add in social media and other internet apps. Here we are. To fix this we have to rearrange the economy, which isn't going to happen. Fix work culture, which isn't going to happen. Fix some social stuff, which isn't going to happen. And convince the entire country to drop certain parts of social media. Which isn't going to happen. We're going to have to do the same thing Japan is reluctantly doing. Redefine normal. It isn't going away. It's a new feature of society we just have to learn to deal with.
Oh And Asmon is wrong. It's possible to work very hard, do everything right, and still end up broke. He got very very lucky. He knows that, he says that, but I don't think he truly understands the full ramifications. I know he still has RL friends outside of this that aren't doing the greatest. He's talked about it. But it's very hard to put himself in that mindset completely.
@@halycon404didn't read all that, but Japan is a miserable place to be alone.
Everywhere is now.
its because as a man, you are constantly told how horrible you are and how much power you have over everything apparently, im still yet to see any of the benefits though
Then embrace it. Miserable people will always hate you for no reason, be strong in your beliefs and determined. Don't give them an inch
For some men and boys when they are told that they are bad and evil all of their lives someday they might finally believe it. Most of the time they only take themselves out but not all the time
@@fullmetalalkami6466 I just make jokes about it. Like if I come up with a good idea at work to fix something and get compliments I just look at the outspoken feminist I work with and say something like "male privilege is amazing, you should try this". The uptight shrews hate jokes because laughter keeps them alone in their misery, make them suffer alone while in your presence.
@@simshengvue5799 lol….. thats not a social problem that’s having bad parenting
@@white_isnt_a_race2338 Which benefits? Based on your username I'm 99% sure this is bait.
Asmon is giving feminism a pass here. The character from Metallic Rouge said it best(so much wisdom in Anime), it doesn't matter what the movement was originally about, it was always going to get greedy eventually. It isn't some women hijacking feminism, feminism simply worked so well that women(in general) got greedy and didn't know when to stop.
The movement was originally evil dude.
@@paccawacca4069ding ding ding shadow ban incoming threat to system detected
@@paccawacca4069 Was trying to get women voting rights and enter the workspace evil in your mind? I think they had legitimate problems that are more or less solved now.
Exactly. Look up it's founders. Literally what they call people who don't agree with them nowadays. 😂
Something something rejected painter something.
@@paccawacca4069 The ENTIRE MOVEMENT is based off women being a victim and if women are the victims who are the abusers? ofcourse men.
the movement says ALL WOMEN are victims and deserve more (which is NOT TRUE) and that ALL MEN ARE ABUSERS and gain/benefit unfair benefits and privledged (WHICH IS EXTREMELY NOT TRUE)
giving more unfair advantages and sociall power to women in mass while crippling, demonizing and harming men in mass.
the movement was always evil, even when you look at the past, it was always about political and social power, not about rights and needs.
"Monkeys can detect unfairness so obviously so can men". This is true, however monkeys tend to address unfairness with violent behavior lol
That’s the point. We have a limit. Monkeys just reach that limit very fast.
I've always been a more "effiminate" guy ever since I was young and I always found it interesting that most of the toxic masculinity I've experienced actually came from woman. Primarily ex girlfriends lol
The toxic anger thing is something I've only seen women do in the way it gets described.
Same!
That's because women will act not like men, but as what they perceive men to be, often without having actually studied men's behaviours. You see this a lot in modern Hollywood writing too. Women display tons of ''toxic masculinity'' according to the definitions of its own writers, but they don't realize it because they're writing women.
@@jamescheddar4896 Seriously, once guys get over the age of 16-17 they don't bully anymore, its very rare.
Largely, same
A man dedicated his savings for a mens shelter since there are no mens shelters. The feminists sued him into oblivion.... he passed away just wanting to help men as he was once homless from divorce.
you cant drop info like this without telling the source man
@@user-ei3ux3pd7zI don't recall feminists suing him just denying gov funding. The guy's name was Earl Silverman, you can look him up with mens shelter for more details. Unfortunately dude self-deleted shortly after the shelter closed from lack of funds.
@@arthurblack2663 Thanks for info. 👍
@@arthurblack2663 Goverment is in control of ''ze feminists'' so thats effectively the same thing..
Its also more likely to be an assassination, not a suicide.
@@arthurblack2663 this is a two fold failure, though. If it's true women were resistant too it, if men had donated and had his back he would have been okay. I just had a guy call into my work panicking that his gf was going to unalive him so I know how serious this stuff is. Tried to get him some help. But men have to help with this stuff and should have rallied around him. If he didn't have funds that's why
Gen Z are seeing what happened to their Millennial fathers and opting out. They don’t want to go through the same bullshit.
let's not forget some of gen Z were raised by boomers 🤷🏻♀️
Yep, after seeing how much my father was abused and how much he had to go through emotionally, I have absolutely 0 interest in the dealing with the average modern woman. It's sad that being a good good person is considered rare today.
@@Shamrock_queen98
Both y'all wrong lol.
Majority of Gen Z was raised by Gen X.
Gen Z was definitely raised by Gen X. My millennial friends who had kids in their freshman year of high school are just now saying Happy Birthday to pre-teens.
@@A-Ree you do realize that there were over 10 years of millennials before your friends tho, right?
12:30 Yup. I’m a 41 year old dad and the apprentices at work always want to treat me like a dad. They want to impress me, or more commonly, want to have confrontations that prove I care, if that makes sense.
As a male, I've seen sexism several times but mostly against male.
As a teen trying to get a job in fast food restaurant employees telling me the boss only hire girls cause they clean better than boys. (mostly in subways)
As a college student trying to be a waiter cause it paidwell. They hired attractive girls instead even tho I was busboy there (happened in 2 restaurants)
As an adult, my job in construction you need 4-5 years experience to apply to big companies but woman gets instantly hired as soon as they get the diploma
So yeah I grew sceptic about the purpose of feminism nowadays.
Historically theyd hire one (pretty)woman everywhere just so the boss had a good looking woman around on his payroll. Now you get tax cuts for hiring certain % of women that are so large that if you dont your business literally cant stay competitive(by design)...
Its a 'soft' mandate
Had it happen with a little gaming store in a city I lived when I was younger. If you don't want to hire me, just don't hire me. Don't tell me you only hire women because they are more trustworthy and responsible.
I think he had other reasons he only hired women but that's besides the point...
@@MultiIhatethis Abusing power dynamics is a common one. That can be in trying to get sexual favors in return for favoritism at work, or in the sense that women tend to be less argumentative to "authorities" so you can pressure them to do or accept things more easily(in context to actual work, or pay)
But alot of women are happy to abuse or take advantage of any or all of these also these days as its all become normal and normalized.
As a teen i worked at a coldstone where the boss only hired girls. The only men were me and my brother and the GM was a sexist who literally would tell the boss all the men are too slow to work there. I had to fight for my job at 16 and play work politics to get the other woman to speak up for me and my best friend who also is a male from being fired because she didn't like men. Funny thing is when a 300lb woman came into the store and shit all over the bathroom (walls around the toilet it was everywhere it was like she exploded) The Toxic Fem GM asked me to clean it because "I'm a man" I told her to do it because she's the GM lol. She later called the store owner and HE cleaned it up. I think she loves woman so much he should have made her clean it. The audacity to tell me to clean it because I was a man was insane to me. Some people just have no business with even an ounce of power.
So true, I remember at a Uni careers fair where a company was like "this is an opportunity for women only" 👀
"Genocide was committed by all men"
Look up Ghandi's daughter.
Bloody Mary's another good one
Who was that lady Mao was with? Didnt she cause some trouble?
The more I learn about Ghandi, the less I understand why people idolize him.
@@miragebarrage9748he fits the narrative of oppressed vs oppressor.
Princess Mabel from Holland is a good example
It's kind of an indicator of how screwy the structure is that so many people don't realize what actually useful skills are. We never did young people such a huge disservice as when we told them all that they could be whatever they wanted in life and to follow their dreams no matter where they led. Newsflash: if the world doesn't value your dreams, you don't get to follow them.
Well you CAN follow them but don’t expect to get paid.
A lot of women seem to want to be treated in ways that benefit them, but when it comes down to the nitty gritty the women suddenly don't want that. It's all about preferential treatment and being put on a pedestal. Sad times boys.
So I work an office job for a large company and on international woman's day the head of HR (who is a woman) sent a company wide email in response. I'm all about equality, but to paraphrase what she said it was along the lines of, 'Men need to understand the advantages and luxuries they enjoy in the workplace, especially when it comes to career progression' . I worked so hard to get where I am now, and instead of empowering and uplifting woman, it undermined the effort of and diminished every male that has worked to get where they are. Also this is in a company where majority of upper management is female, and she was praised and applauded for doing this. HOW is this okay?? This is the point where modern societal feminism is at (in many cases) so it's no WONDER we're seeing younger guys turn on and become aggressive towards what was originally about genuine equality.
And after reading that email is when some dude goes to rumble and continues his Tate or Fresh and Fit podcast on his phone about how to become more masculine and get an overseas traditional woman to become his wife and live a happy life.
100%
The CEO of the company I work for is a woman. Half or more of the administrative positions are held by women.
Yet during company meetings and presentations, they bring up inequality towards women in the workplace etc.
A female CEO and a heavily-female administration, telling a huge group of men who make significantly less money about how much work "we still have to do towards equality". The dissonance is insane.
And yes of course the women in the company are celebrated every year on international woman's day. Celebrated purely for the genitals they were born with.
And of course it includes people who identify as women.
In other words, companies celebrate people who were born female, or those who renounced their masculinity, with absolutely no tie to their performance or hard work.
Truly it is a mystery why so many men are bitter about it.
Complain about it, make your voice heard, that’s what women did that’s why they are the bosses. If you don’t think it’s fair then push back. Don’t expect them to give up their new found power though. Men didn’t want to give it up, why would women want to? You have to at least ask, and if that doesn’t work then demand it
50 years to women lose the right to vote... i bet on it.
@@fifab82the way men complain is different from women tho .. it is aggressive and violent and causes even more destruction for the society
One of the big problems for the "good" feminists that theoretically don't hate men, is that they rarely if ever acknowledge, let alone criticize, the feminists that hate men in their name.
That makes it very hard to defend the ideology as one that is really about equality for men and women. It comes across more often as "men and women should be equal, but also women should be more equal than men."
Ideologically, they can't criticize it. Diversity of tactics is a political ideology that is specific to the left. It's why they don't call out riots or physical attacks against ppl who don't agree with them.
@@TitusAndromadonIt isn't specific to the left. Lol
This is the recourse of ALL ideologues.
No True Scotsman fallacy basically
Tbh it’s more of a situation where two things are happening:
- echo chamber effect that is the internet, where you tend to surround yourself with confirmation bias
Along with:
- the Lefts propensity for cancelling itself having different viewpoints
The patriarchy concept is widely understood by normal people to be problematic for everyone in that type of structure. Unrealistic expectations on all gender roles.
But twitter is full of psycho people who surround themselves with people who support a view that doesn’t reflect the majority of people and blows it up, making it seem like it’s mainstream … but it’s not.
Don't ask "good feminists" to call out "bad feminists".
You tell "bad feminists" that they're not feminists.
It's VERY effective. They don't have a counter for it.
Feminism since its debut in the Order of the White Feather has always been created to emotionally coerce men into jingoism. Even Declaration of Sentiments was worded so as to avoid addressing the issue of power abuse.
"I think this is because of the lack of family structure and the lack of respectable father figures in media and in people's personal lives." Feminism individually came for each of these things one after the other(one of their first targets was the nuclear family) until we're at a point where young men who have father figures have to consider themselves lucky.
As a man who lives and grew up in Finland its always ridiculous to me when I hear a Finnish woman complain how women are disadvantaged here,etc,etc. the things you hear in the U.S. and every single time I bring up how she wasnt forced to sacrife a year of her life before college for mandatory military service with the threat of going to prison they dodge the subject or say thats not relevant. Now I didn't mind going to the army for a year and didnt think much about it because it was something I knew was coming since I was kid. It gave me more time to mature but when I think about it now its kind of bs. When I started college every girl I knew from high school was already on their second year, starting internships,etc. 1 year ahead of me and I was 1 year older with 1 year less experience pretty much. In the end I got a bunch or stupid, fun and awful memories from my 1 year in the army but if I have ever seen inequality between genders I would say this is one of those things.
Funny, a study just came out showing that something like 6/7 Finnish women agree with mainstream social justice talking points vs 1/7 men. It also showed that the more you agreed the more miserable you were on average. Interesting read
Lets not forget that if the worst comes to pass everyone will expect the women and children to flee west and all men to grab a rifle and march east.
They haven't changed that yet? I thought most of us in the Nordic were pretty similar there? in Norway in 2010 they made it so gender didn't matter, everyone has to show up now for that first meeting at least.
it's never going to be "good enough" for some people, they'll just keep moving the goal posts.
Similar in the US. Politicians talked about bringing back conscripted service during the big Middle East conflicts. Men in the US would have Ben forced to serve. Women wouldn't be. Who's pushing for equality again?
A couple of years ago I was on R*ddit and responding to some far left people who were going on about how "gen z will save us", I told them that gen z will end up being the most conservative generation in a long time, they laughed and insulted me. I bet today they are screeching to the skies.
Don't forget: you are told _by authoritarian demagogues from the Left_ that Gen Z men are becoming more conservative. Context always matters.
people often rebel and do the opposite of their parents. millenials being hyper liberal are pushing their kids towards conservatism.
Well that's great but is it enough to fix the fact of our declining populations?
I love how other people tell us how we should behave. That's the classic "You're lazy" or "You don't work hard enough" we've been hearing from older generations but now it's "You will save us" because they were too lazy to help themselves. It's almost as if the older generation was projecting what they wanted to see in the younger gen.
@@Dante02d12 this is something that nobody else talks about but im gonna bring it up here because i feel like people ignore this thought process. so my theory is: Every single generation after gen Z will be more conservative than the last, and the left is trying to take over the culture to counteract this. Think about it, most modern people of the left want to live child free lives, as seen by the rapidly declining birth rates and the new sense of self prioritization taking over old gen Z and young millennials, you wanna know who are having children? People with traditional conservative family values, people who go to church, etc. A majority of the time, children eventually take on the values they were raised with, including myself. The left knows this, so they attempt to take over social media and education, turning it into an echo chamber of leftist ideology, therefor swaying people away from right wing values.
how many young men lived through their mom absolutely shredding their family and destroying their father financially while having a revolving door of boyfriends or just shutting down and living off the state and alimony?
If they show their hatred for men on the surface, out loud, just imagine the hate they REALLY have INSIDE
No this is flipped. Women know they can get away with saying it out loud so they do. Men are the ones holding silent hate inside because they can't say it out loud. This is going to reach a boiling point eventually and I fear that day.
Women decided to collectively replace the idea of a husband with the Government. The government, understandably, is okay with this so long as women vote for more government. So, of course men would shift towards the "Less Government" party. The government is the Chad a man's fiance cheated on him with. What does it make you when you pay your wife's boyfriend to call you names and villainize you?
Yep, this is what I've been saying.
No, government is the abusive lying spouse.
So it's the government's fault
ohh no no no, you wont get away that easy ,the government and the women.
Silly women , no accountability is for kids.
Well, the government is more reliable than a person's feelings.
No, genocide wasn't all men. Look up the history of Madagascar.
If women had seats of power more often, I don't think there would have been less death or wars, it is simply that the role women played in politics was usually different, but behind almost every despot are women who usually agree with them.
Just look at how many serial killers get married in prison. The common name is "Bonnie and Clyde Syndrome" and a certain percentage of women are attracted to and sexually fetishize violence.
Also look up Cersei Lenister
Only time a woman listens to a man's feelings (good mother's excluded) is when they can use it as ammunition shamelessly in a later argument. I have been with multiple women, and this is one thing they've all had in common, but God forbid you do the same. The lack of accountability in modern woman is also a huge problem and the fact that traditional values are being left in the dust. People are painting the traditional woman as weak but it's the opposite being able to raise children and have the empathy to nurture and heal others is a superpower. It's a shame that so many modern women are naive enough to fall for the scam that being a divine feminine is wrong. This message coming from a single father whose baby mama doesn't see her son. We lack family structures because society is telling woman that looking good for a decade of their life is more important than being a mother and proper individual. The game rewards the behavior that is encouraged. Mothers are failing their daughters not teaching them how to be respectable young woman and somehow will teach their daughter it's the father's fault creating "daddy issues" and to some degree it is but no one expects a mother to teach her son how to be a man like they expect a father to so why should a father be held to teach his daughter more than her mother. These anti-woman internet celebrities are horrible too teaching a guy to just focus on him and get his money up is a good thing until he realizes he now has all this money and is unable to find genuine love because now girls see him as an atm and a means to getting what they want in life. Western society feels like shit for men when it comes to dating and relationships that's why we have so many passport bros, they figured it's easier to find a traditional/grateful woman in a 3rd world country that has nothing and hasn't been tainted by the extreme ideologies of the west. Bring back the nuclear family just don't let men beat and mistreat their wives like it's the 30's (which wouldn't happen cause divorce isn't looked at a insane sin anymore) and it'd be fine you'd have a lot more mentally stable folks walking around.
Bro learn punctuation Pls. No one is reading that wall of text
You're trying to look for compassion with a gf, we women learn we can't expect compassion from non-family members, my brother told me "I only care about your female issues because you're my sister". Don't expect this from gf, if you found a compassionate gf, she's wife material because only family cares about you. This issue isn't about feminism or whatever, you guys need to learn basic human behaviors and most girls don't understand this either and end up blaming men.
For a woman, having an OnlyFools is OK, do what you want with your body and reputation, but do NOT come to me after 10 years whining about why I don't want you.
Have some accountability.
and what do you bring to the table
giant leap in woman being liberal, slightly more conservative men, half the videos I see on this data just analyze the men becoming more conservative as if that's the odd thing.
Women going to the left isn't that interesting. The left promises them more free rides so they abide.
because this people are progressive... that is why, they think they are right at all cost and if you are becoming conservative that is bad... because man are the only ones that can stop or change stuff.
If only there was historical knowledge of women destroying society
Yes. Because alot of people that do the analysis and that work in media, have the deeply flawed idea that "Progress" is always a leftward march over time. This means that they don't even think twice about how insane the left has gotten over the last 2 decades, and instead are terrified and flabbergasted by even the slightest push in the other direction.
A visualization of how different philosophical views see things:
1) Progressive worldview can be seen as driving on a collapsing bridge and staying ahead of the crumbling behind you, meaning any slowdown or reversal in thier mind would be catastrophy.
2) Extremely conservative people view it as a road where on the left side of the road is a cliff-face and on the right is further inland, thus safer from falling off a cliff and therefor consider 0 drawbacks to going further right (and thier strongest argument is that the values they hold got humanity through actuall millenia of evolution and the rise and fall of civilizations).
3) The centrist position see a road along the top of a mountain ridge, where if you steer too far to either side you will obviously fall off the edge and crash and burn.
Personally I am in the center. If something is tried and obviously isn't working, the solution usually isn't to TRIPPLE DOWN on that path, but to turn back onto the road. And if you over-correct to the other side, you neee to turn back again before going off that edge instead. It's a balancing act.
it's funny how we use that word "liberal" yet those liberals want the most rules and structure the world to their ideals in a forceful way and anybody who disagrees is a bigot.
Be the kind of man Uncle Iroh would want you to be.
Underrated comment right here
The goat!!!😊
FAAAAAAACTS
basado
Real one
as a gen z I can say definitely what happened to me
I just quickly realized that the left, in general, don't have concrete, statistical data, but idealizations
Both sides use data however it benefits them, don't ignore reality just because of your ideology.
@@azzv.kuskatan I know but the mental masturbation of the leftists is insane, they defend stuff that ideally would be perfect but in practice can not work
socialist practices is an example, there's 200 countries of data on capitalism and about 10 nations that tried socialism, yet some insist on it
also, the idea was developed in a basement, by one guy, 200 years ago, without any data, just marx's own philosophy and self-introspection
I actually think superman is a good role model personality wise. He's genuinely a stand up guy who has faith in humanities' capability to do good and doesn't feel superior for having superpowers. He helps those who need it by using his strength as a protective force rather than one meant to do harm and talks things out before getting physical if its at all possible.
I grew up looking up to Christopher Reeve as superman, that's who I admired. I had a dad and two older brothers, couldn't look up to those narcs.
He's a good role model, which is why it's funny that his existence can still be considered damaging for kids
@@Willy_Warmer I don't think Ive heard that before and i dont see how anyone could see him that way. Unless they are referring to man of steel or some other superman iteration that doesn't get what the character is about. But that's only because they give the wrong impression of the character.
@@TimeyWimey. nah it’s not that. You encourage kids to look up to Superman as someone who you should want to be, which is good, because Superman is a selfless hero with good morals. However, at the same time, he also doesn’t really care for himself. He puts himself in harms way constantly, puts others needs before his own, doesn’t ever take the time to examine his mental health (despite the amount of shit he’d be dealing with realistically), and both feels and is essentially told in a lot of cases that he’s basically obligated to do all that despite the fact that he’s not. So on the one hand, there’s the good stuff, but on the other hand, it’s not hard for children to simultaneously get the message that they should put their needs last, not take care of themselves, put themselves in harms way, etc, especially if that sort of thing is further encouraged by society.
@@Willy_Warmer I see what you mean, and what you are saying helps to make him a more interesting character than what people see on the surface. I believe some authors have delved into that aspect of how he represents America's societal expectations, albeit not very often. Most get stuck at him being stronger than 99% of the dc roster.
Although it doesn't talk about American values that much, i think a good look into how superman's ideals can be manipulated by societal influence is the the Superman: Red Sun series/movie where he landed in soviet russia instead of america. He's almost the same person at his core, wanting to help others and keep the peace, but the different cultural background leads him to learn values that are completely opposed to the ones of the main universe superman.
What i think is at the core of the question of whether or not he is a good role model is the interpretation of what “Truth, Justice and a Better Tomorrow” means to different people. In a culture that's very patriotic, it could mean putting others before yourself, while others, like soviet Russia, would think it means to have a strong leader willing to do anything to ensure the survival and success of their own country at any cost. Its a concept that is basically whatever you make of it and can have good and or bad implications depending on what you think they mean.
Too bad many people think he's a boring character because of bad writing, huh :/
last time i pointed out that women have all of these beneficial school and work programs while men have none i was called a misogynist and was told to go to behavioral training to "undo my internalized misogynism". funny how that works.
Don't ever take that shit again
Get offended get mad and make it clear how disgustingly offended you are, you can legitimately get people in so much trouble for discrimination if you are visibly upset and honest
Lmao behavioral training. This world is fucked.
@@VemoNotRated That's true, not only does this appear to be interpreted as intentional harassment (6 months max imprisonment) under Public Order Act, but it ALSO breaches Article 14 of ECHR--especially if it involves power dynamic. Employers are also held liable for staff conduct under vicarious liability, but I'm sure many know work-arounds with their insurers, which is why they use policies which push for a more neutral or 'healthy/safe' (corporate language) work environment to at least demonstrate their willingness to facilitate a positive working space. I cannot think of a possible defence for the accusers in this incident as currently presented, it is unreasonable to be verbally abusive over a simple misunderstanding.
As long as you respect women as people you're not a misogynist. Her use of the word doesn't even fit the definiton, pointing out simple matter of fact has nothing to do with the definiton LOL. The victim mindset is real with people.
@spoonerman "As long as you respect women as people"
The definition of mysoginy is not "Being disrespectful towards women". 🤦
I agree that a lot of this is self-inflicted, but one point that isn’t highlighted enough in this video is how institutionalized this is. I’m finishing up in University and the attitudes that this guy is complaining about in the video is being TAUGHT. I walk out of the class actively trying not to hate women because of how disrespectful my class is towards men. The professor encourages it!
Then you should do something about your issue, not hate women.
You did not listen to a thing they said did you?@admaanhason7410
@@levilhirondelle4561 In the video? The video has nothing to do with the comment. Try not to mix those together.
Now, do you disagree with my comment?
@@admaanhason7410 I ment the comment you were replying to
@@levilhirondelle4561 What exactly do you not understand?
We need dads in homes. A solid family is where it all starts.
Not really, a family will not fix feminist education, only egalitarian education for both genders will.
You won't get fathers in homes while women vote to replace men with the state.
Why do you have to keep re-iterating every minute that "men do it too". Its like you are afraid of the feminists calling you a misogynist.
you mean a balanced view?
@@bruh-bn3ni what he is doing is the opposite of having a balanced view.
@@venkyratnam Your version of a balanced view is where only women are criticised and not men
@@bruh-bn3ni What he's doing isn't balanced. We can talk about women being horrible people as its own topic without needing to bring up men because there are multiple forums of just talking about how horrible men are without ever bringing up women being horrible as well.
There is no need to bring up men when the conversation is about women and feminism.
@@ianwazowski5607 No lol. Balanced doesn't mean appeasment. What he's doing is appeasing. The topic is about femenism and how it has affected men and their feelings/views, yet he feels the need to remind _someone_ that "men do it too." Why? What's the point? If I'm talking with a physicst about string theory, every time they say something that supports string theory does it make sense to say "yeah but what about (blank) that's in support of loop quantum gravity?" No, it doesn't, because this isn't a competition or a debate, it's a discussion about string theory.
This isn't a competition or a debate about the issues men and women experience, it's a discussion about the issues men experience and how femenism has affected men. A balanced view is bringing up both sides when both sides are relevant.
The word you're looking for is "Egalitarian"
If you ask a feminist about egalitarianism, they will tell you that's an MRA talking point.
No.
@@admaanhason7410 care to explain that?
@@admaanhason7410explain?
@@SirBladewind What is there to explain? I'm an egalitarian feminist.
@@Franky566 ...?
The whole "men do it, too" is so tiring. The point that it's overwhelmingly one-sided is just disheartening. Being milquetoast is lame as hell.
Surprise surprise, Asmon can't stop being a simp and always stands for in the same category as Hassan Poki and Amurat.
Honestly, redpill and men like Andrew Tate and gigachad based cultures weren't even a thing until peak feminism, they're born out of years feminism and misandry. People seems to forget that every action will have a reaction.
To illustrate the how little people care about men, or perhaps how much toxic feminism has spread, you almost can't talk about men's issues without paying lip service to women's issues or downplaying male issues.
Generally speaking, the issues women have are different than men, so it’s also just dumb to say, “men do it too”.
Another funny thing about the "but (insert group) does it, too." response.
This is a smaller percentage of that group that is like this. If you have such a problem with this type of behavior, why are you trying to copy it?
All of the complaints they have with "toxic masculinity," but when they adopt it, it makes them empowered.
9:20 is exactly right. It’s not about discussion, or debate, or ideas, it’s about bullying into shutting up so they have the unchallenged floor.
"I think [this unhealthy backlash] is bad for both groups"
THANK YOU
An entire generation of boys were treated by the school system like defective girls, and many have never experienced a day of male leadership in their lives. The fact that things in society are still working as well as they are is a miracle.
For real
I was just getting outta school as shit was changing, Im never letting a kid in public school if I have one
Give it another 10 years. I would start stocking up and moving far far away from cities.
More like three generations.
@@OniGanon i guess I can attest to 2 at least myself
@@VemoNotRated u wont incel
I’ve never understood how people that man hate never sit and question if men are so bad why don’t they consider how a mother raises a son?
Because those people can’t ever hold women accountable for anything
because blaming a woman for something would break their brain
For them the mother will either be a poor single mother so its actually the not present dads fault for everything wrong the mother does. If the parents are together then it's actually still the dads fault and he's the abuser who made everything bad.
Obviously these kind of women often never had a father themselves so they just don't understand, they hate because it's something they never had.
And then you just have all the rich/middle class girls from a perfect nuclear family who are spoilt and lived without struggle who NEED to be a victim somehow to capitalise on the attention. Never mind they're the most privileged in society.
They forget that.
They also want to blame men for "beauty standards", but leave out the whole fact that its not fathers teaching their daughters they need to care about cosmetics or fashion, its their mothers, sisters, aunts, and female peers. Dudes don't really care about those things, we can appreciate them some, but anyone who wants more than a fling knows that those things wash down the drain and aren't important in the least. Its not men who force these things its women.
Because humans are complex are take information from every possible avenue not just his mother? Also boys tend to emulate men in their live rather then their mother because they often wanna be men you know.
Its not about men being against feminism, it's about men being against men-hate and discrimination
The lack of family structure and support and the loss of the cohesive family with positive role models has been the worst thing for society
Whos the guy in the red shirt? I don't recognize him.
That’s asmondgold
Rare shirt LULW
That's a dark side of asmond - the clean one.
I think it's an out of season April fools jokes
He probably had a social event recently as i saw multiple shirts recently, implying a shower
There is a word for it. Egalitarian, meaning you actually want equality without picking one side's issues over the other.
How about utalitarianism?😊
Egalitarianism when applied to men and women is arguably worse than feminism since it hurts both sides instead of just one. Women's sports for example isn't egalitarian, yet it's necessary to be fair because women aren't equal to men.
@@sticks7857 Egalitarian doesn't intrinsically mean you instantly ignore obvious aspects that aren't equal for specific reasons such as in sports. Just that you are able to treat situations without a specific bias towards one side or the other. As in both men as women have problems, we don't need to just worry about one side or the other as they can both be worked on. That is an exceptionally simple minded view of the idea.
@@JohnA... Men and women have different problems, and treating them as though they're equal when they're anything but isn't going to work. We can see this playing out in real time as forced quotas in workplaces to have an equal representation of different groups in the name of egalitarianism is causing a competency crisis as they're forced to hire less qualified people in order to meet those quotas.
@@sticks7857in that case you've clearly not understood the concept of this ism.
I'm bipolar to the point that I'm medically disabled . I've been rejected for the most basic of help for the most ridiculous of reasons . If I was a woman or if I was a member of a minority group people would be losing their shit at the level of incompetence I've had to face in the face of a mountain of medical documentation and evidence. Instead they just keep telling me to call back when I'm 55 and that's including the cowardly lawyers that won't take the case cuz they might have to do a little work. They're literally making me have to come to the point where it is going to reach a day where I'm going to have to choose crime over hunger. Whose fault is that going to be ..... I've been screaming for help for 25 years but who's fault is it going to be ......
It always goes back to the good old saying, "Can't we all just get along?".
That pendulum everyone talked about is swinging back.
What pendulum? An online survey answered by about 200 people? That pendulum?
@@davidlauderdale7147what are you trying to achieve
50 years for women to lose the right to vote.
@@davidlauderdale7147 well you dont live in reality if you dont see this in the real world... hell even on the internet that is true... the pendulum is called "men's wants" if men wants feminism to be gone it will... if women want feminism to be gone it will never be gone... unless they did the same as before... manipulate men into voting feminism in but on the oposite... women can only do stuff if majority of man allowed... is just a fact.
@davidlauderdale7147 leave the woke signs and stickers up so you can be thanked
It’s so engrained in society that Zack found a way to blame men at the end lol
Lol yep, probably doesn't even realize it either.
he's also just 30-something.
because of how sheltered all of you were, 33 really is the new 23.
you all need to go way older (70s) if you want to find the world's last real men.
@@asdfbeauthe seventy year olds were the ones that hepled this along they were hippies then bank managers then helped push the patrioct act. They were the FIRST sellouts
He's also pumping out the just world fallacy all day long
He's a normie that doesn't exactly focus on political shit. Can't be helped ig
Feminism ruined the family structure and this is the situation we're in now.
Can't Imagine what will be in 20 years.
Unironically we would be like in the 1940's society is going to be really traditional
Can we get the 15% virtue chance?
Literally, the second wave feminists gave us no-fault divorce.
I 100% agree about people just needing better family structures. I was very lucky to have my dad and mom around and willing to talk to me about my feelings and interactions.
My father is such a gentle giant. He looks all tough and big because he works out... but he's always been so gentle with us as kids, while also making sure that we understood the boundaries of respect. He roughhoused with us (which is SUPER important for kids to do with their father). He lectured us on shit we barely understood because
People need to stop having kids if they really don't plan on make sure that kid has a stable home. Stop having kids just because you love the person you're with. Love changes.
Oh , family , you mean the thing feminist swear to destroy since the late 19 century.
Just imagine that a lot of people have broken families because of that. , and realize that even more people will not be able to even create family because of that.
Man does asmon have a new GF? the last 3 video's I've seen of his he has had a different shirt on
I think it’s his version of having a shower regularly.
If he gets a hair cut he will have to drop the goblin persona
Naw gotta look good for the outta context clips calling him buzz words
Having a masculine father figure and a feminine mother growing up is one of the best things for someone to have and learn from to respect both sides equally.
Why do they only only need "father father" but need "mother" with no "figure" attached?
@@user-og6hl6lv7p because we're talking about men
@@user-og6hl6lv7p Even my mother knows why that is and she is a feminist LOL. Boys need father figures to teach them, she was always glad when i got a male teacher in primary school (there were a lot of female teachers). Male teachers really click with boys, just as female teachers click more with girls. Same goes with parenting lol.
No one infected feminism, it has always been this way.
No, it hasn't. It started to become this around 1989. The first couple of waves of feminism wanted equality, the more recent waves want superiority.
@@mlsanders4800 nope.
It stopped being about equality and started being about revenge.
It was never about equality.
It was always about special privileges.
@@dafunkmonster You may be right. I'm married to a great woman. She's not perfect, but I made the right choice when I thought she was "good enough."
My son, though. I worry about him, and what he's going to go through.
It’s a weird flex for modern feminism and their supporters to blame me for something that a very small percentage of men have done over the course of history.
Time to grow TF up…
The feminists that reach out to men are the ones men will actually listen to.
Why would you listen to someone who denies/belittles your problems?
Case example: Norah Vincent
You want a woman to solve your problems?
While I do agree that improving the family structure and going back to nuclear families the norm would help a lot. The issue is that feminist cant let that happen. Because you'd need to fundamentally change how divorce law and the family court work.
These two things currently heavily favor women.
Try to convince a feminist that for the betterment of society, no fault divorce should be abolished and default parental rights in the case of a divorce should be 50/50.
At best, you'll be called pejorativs. At worst, you've just summoned a screeching banshee.
try to convince men that women do 99% work raising a kid including being pregnant.
I find it interesting how he tries to explain a lot of men's issues with the absence of proper family structures and father figures, but doesn't have the courage to openly state that those were intentionally campaigned for by feminists. Somehow I doubt feminists would react well to learning they're the reason people like Andrew Tate and these Fake Boot Camps are so successful.
"The issue is that feminist cant let that happen. Because you'd need to fundamentally change how divorce law and the family court work."
And that would mean undoing Second Wave Feminism's crowning achievements. They fought hard to get those child custody rules and no fault divorce.
Does anyone have a link to the article that has the line charts shown in video? Can't find it.
They're selling t-shirts on amazon that say "ALL men are evil" let that sink in xD
Brett, it's not that serious.
@@rogervanbarenhard disagree there, roger
@@daarksideyt Ikr? The kind of attitude that some men have regarding sexism done by women towards men : "It's just a joke, don't take it seriously" "women are more emotional, who cares what they say" is exactly why misandry continues to grow in the west.
Clearly profitting off dividing people, sheesh...
@@rogervanbaren Would you say that if Amazon was selling shirts that said all women are evil?
Because a lot of issues around men aren’t taken seriously, it’s either handwaved or if you want to bring it up you’re called an incel
Then push back on the Incels who are misogynists and give other concerned men a bad name.
So what are you doing to change that?
He's talking about it, duh. The more men talk about it and care about it, the more it can affect politics and you will see it happen. For example, US government entertained the idea of adding the draft for women 4 years ago. If men keep pushing for equality, it might actually make the government abolish the draft (a win) or make women part of the draft as well (another win). Maybe you should pay attention to what is going on around you?
@@AnonningAnon but only men hear and take it seriously. In the end that doesn't help at all
... because society just doesn't care about men.
They use it as a shield
Soneone at 6:35 said something I've been saying for a while now: "It's important to know there are many good women and men out there, the internet just portray[s] the bad things."
Rage bait is common and a rampant problem online, and it's effective for a reason. People are much more responsive to negative outcomes than positive ones. This is common among not just humans but pretty much all animals. This doesn't mean there aren't issues that need to be addressed, but it does put things into perspective. There are a lot more decent people out there than there are bad, we just only hear about the bad because it makes headlines.
Lastly: None of this is to invalidate or make the problems that people have dealt with lesser/reduce their importance. If people are dealing with racism it should be called out and the racists should be called out too. Same goes for any problem of prejudice or objectively immoral hate. Handle individual problems on an individual level.
Thank you for coming to my TED talk.
Will never not make me laugh that misandry is paraded as feminism nowadays
"nowadays"?
it's at the roots of the ideology.
the actual egalitarian idiology is a seperate thing.
Its all misandry and the hatred of children.
@@nonyabisness6306 the form of feminism you're talking about has only been popular for the last 10 yrs or so.
That's exactly what it has lol.
@@i_dream_of_memesthat's not true. literally the first feminists where like this.
Feminist - WE WANT EQUALITY !
World War 3 draft time.
Feminist - YOU CAN'T DRAFT US THAT'S NOT FAIR.
( Equality )
You're right, it's either it's all or none. I think a draft shouldn't exist 💀
Yup. Once problems like potential war will start showing up, they will quickly change their tune. We've seen it a bit when Biden called potential recruitment to the army.
I wonder if women will participate when it finally happens
Draft is slavery, like literally.
@@baph0met The draft is a remnant of the covenant between the state and the individual(Men). Men agreed they would serve the nation and subject themselves to conscription in exchange for Civil Rights. i.e right to vote, right to bear arms, etc.
Women never made this pact and were given these rights for free. No wonder they do not full understand it.
I never see "good feminists" denouncing the bad/crazy feminists. At this point, "feminist" is synonymous with "crazy".
The inflexion point in all those graphs is when the social media fully dropped
Imo, the issue isn't that feminist people don't care about men, but institutional feminism doesn't, and that's where the funds go and where policies are made.
Example:
For STEM, there are initiatives to get more women into those studies. For humanities, teaching degrees, etc , nothing for men, despite similar gaps. Do my feminist friends care about that? Absolutely. Feminist institutions? Not one bit.
To be fair, men often don‘t want to go in female dominated professions, but if we wanted, we could (and we know that).
Meanwhile, feminism tells women they should go into STEM, which again, most women don‘t want to, and the ones that do want to go there then erroneously believe they are discriminated by society, rather than understanding that a specific boss or colleague can just be a bad person and that it‘s NOT systemic. Women can go there, just as men can.
As men, we could play that game of backlash always back and forth with women and demand something just for the sake of it. But personally, that seems too petty to me. We have integrity that the other side lacks, we are logical AND compassionate, but to everyone, not only some minorities that claim victimhood.
Instead of fighting for more men in female dominated spaces (in which we could go regardless), we should fight for equality in dating, beauty, the right to be emotional and vulnerable.
Not saying that individual men that go to traditionally female professions experience no bullying, but I don’t see that as systemic. Men are more likely to go to their superior or HR or confront the problematic person themselves, while women avoid any conflict since they needed to get along in the stone age to gather berries to survive. They should finally make an effort to overcome that lizard brain and the sisterhood. Tribalism is toxic.
This is a great point.
That's the same with every movement, one particular group wants to pretend they represent the whole spectrum of ideas and normally the most radicals and insane are the loudest and most invited to TV programs to promote ratings.
@@Zandral36 it depends on the industry. My brother works in a hospital, US system to be exact, where he has to interact with nurses professionally every shift. They're infinitely more likely to go to HR for bull reasons than the guys will and it has happened numerous times like when he was bcc'd on an email chain about someone trying to get him in trouble for literally no reason.
Who goes to war and gets blown up or watches their buddy get blown up in a trench? Who takes all the hard jobs? I work in a pulp mill. 12 hr rotating shifts, 4 days on, 4 days off. Take a nap then repeat. There's zero women here. Not because they won't hire women, we'd love to have some women around here it's all smelly dudes right now but women don't apply to jobs like this. Same with construction and any field that involves long shifts and or hard labor. And that's one of the real reasons for the wage difference between men and women. They want to force gender equality then are you going to force women to go to war and take hard jobs or is it only going to go in the other direction?
You know the answer to your questions brother. Equality only goes one way when the feminists are in charge.
Soldiers go to war, civilians do not. Poor people get the worst jobs.
Your issue is that you actually seem to want people to die fighting in somebody else's wars. The only thing 'gained' from forcing more people into war is more casualties.
@@admaanhason7410 "Soldiers go to war, civilians do not. Poor people get the worst jobs."
historically speaking that is fairly true, you had the "war front" and the "home front". while yes people at the home front were working hard to ensure they get the equipment to the frontlines, you need to realise that a lot of these people didn't wanna go to war. take ww1 for example, if you were a young men who refused to go to war, you would literally be shamed and called a coward for not fighting for you country, then you had the veterans who came back from the war and looked down upon as pathetic and useless. in either case, you you lost either way. the best way i can put it, if you were a civilian, life fucking sucked, badly. but if you were a soldier, you didn't care if life sucked, you would care more then you live another day and not die a gruesome death (big difference).
i don't think OP was insinuating he wanted people die fighting in a war. i think he addressing that if people want gender equality, why not also force women to serve (in the same way that men get drafted), if you wanna have gender equality, you have to enforce the same standards across the board.
@@admaanhason7410 Bro you are coping so damn hard in these comments. "Soldiers go to war, civilians do not" what were soldiers before they joined the army? On that's right civilians. What would happen if a draft was issued? A lotta civilian men would become soldiers.
@@merlin5662 It's the complete opposite. You don't need to force people into the military, you need to not force _anybody_ into the military. Saying that women should be forced into the draft "for equality" is a bad faith argument, no one should be forced into it. Do you understand?
Root of any problem is always communication. People want to tell something, but hardly listen.
Like that 1 guy who was supporting a feminist protest and then a woman starts talking to him and is angry.. while he actually says I support you but then she gets angry and pushes him and he pushes back and then all women are angry at him 😂 wtf
That -1- guy but women can't point to -1- instance of sexism without being told it was one time.
Good God. Sometimes Asmon reminds me that not everyone follows politics. Feminism STARTED as a progressive/hyper leftist idea with no stated "end goal" to achieve. It didn't need to be "infected". The parasitism was baked in from the start.
What are you talking about? Feminism in its earliest politically effective forms stretched across liberal and conservative groups. The first wave feminists fought for the vote and for women to be able to own their own property and be protected in the event their husband or father died rather than having to rely on whichever man in their family got “their” inheritance. Second wave wasn’t even “hyper leftist” though there was a lot more overlap because pretty much every social movement was pretty leftist. That said there were LOTS of anti feminists on the far left. The hippy movement, who were avowedly leftie anti establishment, tolerated and even celebrated violence and rape against women.
@@fifab82 Feminism has it's roots within communism. This is well known by anyone who studies history. A core tennant of communist beliefs is the destruction of the nuclear family. Modern women are rejecting marriage and giving birth. Coincidence? I think not...
@@fifab82 source: trust me, bro
Everyone knows the University-line about feminism.
Some of us were alive to witness the bra-burning, the protests- all you know is what you've been told
@@asdfbeau His source is the fuckin history. And not the ancient one. You probably have family that's lived through the first wave of feminism, TALK to them, to the ones who lived it.
The progressive movement that started in the early 20th century had inherit flaws in the philosophy that would eventually lead to what we have today. You could make an argument that if feminism put the brakes on once second wave achieved its goals, we would be better off. I am saying that I don't think that would have been possible.
@@fifab82
Any man who's not a self-hating Masochist would & should reject modern FEMINISM!
Women in 2024 pretending it's still 1964 is getting old now.
Asmons got good points, but I think he's generalizing quite a bit when it comes to guys "not being able to stop sending d*** pics". There's a lot, a LOT of guys that can't get into relationships that aren't total degens, and who genuinely aren't at fault. They're just traditional men that have been stomped on for being traditional. Like the passport Bros, who are actually normal and leave to find normal girls over seas.
There is going to be a very large amount of bitter, unhappy women in 20 years childless and husbandless.
Is having a children and husband signage of success? Or is that your own opinion?
They made their choices, don't make the mistake of feeling sorry for those strong and independent queens.
@@davidlauderdale7147 It might just be his opinion but I've seen this thing called "biological clock" tick for women time and again
At least half of them will feel unhappy about this, whether they chose the single life early or not
There already are today.
@@LunarEdge7I’ve never heard of such a phenomenon. Do infertile men also have this “biological” clock?
Playing a victim gets addictive after a while
2:10 every German today:
First time?
Asmon says “some guys do this too, everyone tries to blame other people” yeah. But the difference is most guys don’t, VS most women do. And even the guys who do, most of them keep it to themselves, the women who do are obnoxious about it.
the only "self help" advice ive seen that blames others are ones coming from women "you're 3000lbs? you're a 10/10 that man is just dusty"
at least from what ive seen on the men's side, they call you a loser and if you want chicks, you increase your value with fitness and finances and game. The insulting of women is just that, insulting, but at least from what ive seen, the ownness is always back on the men, and not to make demands of the chicks.
About the "women don't genocide" comment. If you look at ancient Japans history with female rulers a lot of the post-Himiko ones were total war mongers. Evil doesn't prefer a any particular set of wobbly bits.
Let's be real, a lot of women had to do x2 evil in power to be taken seriously.
@@ba3725 Who the f said they committed x2 the evil? Only a handful were genocidal psychos, not all male or female rulers. Look up Indira Gandhi to know what happens when you try to 2x your evil xp.
Also, you proved the point. They chose power over innocent lives and more WAR-CRIMES against women.
@@ba3725? No?
Chances are those women were probably already royal, and you're saying it as if it was some sort of ritual.
@@asmyself4021In some cases it was.
@@uu-kq6mn In what cases?
I never heard of a queen that had to double the deaths just to be taken seriously.
Asmon is 100percent right on this one. It also made me stupid happy when I thought of Aragorn as a good father figure for men and then he said Aragorn again later on lol.
this stuff is so interesting to watch unfold as time goes on
In one of the arguments on the web around feminism, one of the feminists easily told me the ultimate truth about all of the arguments like this. 'Feminism is not about women being equal to men, feminism is about women have more rights and privileges, so stop bringing men problems to the argument -- feminism does not care of men problems by it's name'. That's a quote (translated from the language we had a discussion).
Not even trying to hide their disdain for males aren't they?
@@DingusJoe64they never were
this is what every -ism does, once it has power: the mask comes off and we move to "ok it's happening, but it's good that it's happening"
It's one sided. It's no good.