Why Gen Z Men Reject Feminism
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Ask Google "why is my wife yelling at me" and it will tell you to be considerate towards her feelings.
"Potential triggers for a wife's yelling include feeling unheard, financial stress, mental health struggles, disrespect, etc. It's important to understand the root cause."
Ask Google "why is my husband yelling at me" and it will give you the domestic abuse hotline.
This is what social engineering looks like.
So fucked up..
TH-cam is the only google product I use. You really think a company who programmed their AI to not return images of white families isn't gonna hate men?
I just tested this and for me it was the opposite
"why is my wife yelling at me" resulted in Emergency numbers and helplines in Belgium
"why is my husband yelling at me" resulted in My Husband Yells At Me: 10 Common Reasons
I have seen this in the CEO Diary Podcast with Dr. K. Society is declining so fast because of the internet, it's crazy
The same goes for most AIs like ChatGPT and Bing. Not only do they say things like "if your wife says 2+2 is 5, then she must be right", but they also don't generate images of male characters being remotely violent with female characters. Oh, but they will happily show strong female characters beating up male characters.
I wonder if the Kotaku women will see this video and claim Asmongold is a alt-right misogynist because he cares about men's issues.
100% they will, and so will r/gamingcirclejerk
They 100% will. They are animals backed into a corner and they are just preaching to their choir now. Can't wait for Kotaku to fold and we can all tell Alyssa Mercunte to go learn to code.
And then block him again.
Kotaku only writes guides now
They don't want equal rights, they want superiority
"If you want a word about gender equality, it shouldn't be gendered"
I HAVE BEEN SAYING THIS FOR OVER A DECADE NOW
Never heard of this my entire life but it just hit me like a bunch of bricks. Yeah, why is it gendered? Let's make sure, whatever it is, both side gets the same.
But that's socialism
It should have been called, 'equalism'. It refers to the point of equality, and authentic fairness, without including the presupposition of a gendered favoritism bias.
Same. First I heard of feminism and what it apparently stands for I thought ‘what a unnecessarily one-sided term’. No matter how you slice it it implies that either men or masculinity is a bad thing.
But what if they don't actually want it?
I'm a 28 year old male living in the UK I have a 30 year old Sister we're not idiots, and we're both in similar getting by financial positions, we get on well and what I'm about to talk about was in no way personal. but a few months ago I was driving my sister somewhere and we had a conversation about men's issues and she acknowledged that young men are suffering from poor mental health, struggling to find a place in this world and all the traditional advantages of being a man no longer apply to young men, however she then said but that's not my problem that's your problem, so in a world where all the traditional societal advantages of being a man have disappeared and all the societal advantages of being a women in terms of relationships and help that's out there still exist, an educated women in my age group that I respect tells me that the problems young men face are not women's problems so women have no responsibility to care.... in the UK women under 30 are on average more likely to receive higher education and on average make more money than men do in the same age demographic, women don't view young men's issues as something they should care about, women naturally support and love each other more, whereas men are competitive, so as a young man their are very few people out there who care about you or your struggles.... so tell me why the fuck should I care about or support feminism?
You should tell your sister her answer is cruel. Women who come to the conclusion that only men should care about men’s issues are cruel, period. This is coming from a 28F from the US, btw. Yes, women have suffered before, but now we suffer much less, and it does keep getting better over time. Ask her this - “Why would you tell me the same thing men told women 50 years ago?” The vast majority of men back then had the view that the ladies needed to lift themselves up. Men ended up helping out over time. Is this how we repay them? Life is give and take. Don’t be cruel, don’t divide the genders in such a way.
As cruel as that answer might seem, it’s completely true, no one in the world owes you jack.
Women can only be competitive with government assistance. Look for what you're voting next.
@@user-Mr-L-of-Yorkvery true, but try and tell her that and see what her response is. The reality is that they know being given special treatment, and guess what they like it and they don’t plan on willingly giving it up any time soon.
@@GothicGali To be honest, I am not so sure women are suffering less. As we've thrown out traditional roles, women are forced to be both father (provider) and mother (nurturer). Over 25% of them are on SSRIs and report disproportionate levels of mental health issues (especially if they are liberal). They are having less children, report less life satisfaction and increasingly, are finding themselves alone as they age.
You are correct that we are all in this together. We all benefit from living in healthier networks and using ill-perceived historical interpretations to demonize or subjugate half of our citizenry is not a sustainable pathway. All of the problems we are seeing, especially in the youth, could be mitigated by women simply reembracing or at least reprioritizing their roles as mothers without the need to throw away any pursuits they may have. Instead of spending their 20's and 30's chasing a career, and if they are lucky, finding a man and then having children--they could focus first on finding men and building a family and when the kids are old enough, pursuing their careers with zero interruptions. Its a win-win-win for everyone. Men can reembrace their role with women, women can have kids with reduced risk of infertility, and kids win because they get a bit more of that established reinforced household that is statistically proven to produce better-prepared kids.
"They are not trying to win an argument, they are trying to shut down an argument". Perfectly said Asmon.
exactly RIGHT.
Yeah
Asmon's opinions have gotten way more fair than they used to be. It's refreshing. Props to him for doing the homework.
They are just trying to win rather than argue
Unfairness at its highest degree.
@@joshanonline Except when it comes to Christians and to Melonie Mac. He immediately assumes the worst possible conclusion and argues in bad faith and makes tons of strawman arguments, and when told he makes a straw man he does it again.
"No one wants to be born with Original Sin, they wrote a while book about it." Is lowkey one of the best jokes Asmon has ever made lol
XD that was kinda funny and clever
@@Chocolatnave123 the bible
The main character said we were all born with original sin and should treat each other nicely. People got so pissed, they nailed him to a cross.
@@erikrungemadsen2081 Jesus didn't really talk about original sin very much. The closest he got was when he said "He who has not sinned cast the first stone". But original sin was a doctrine of the theologian St Augustine of Hippo.
@@hairyballs089 elaborate further?
Feminism’s problem is treating 99% of the average man as if they are the top 1% of men that are in office and actually have power. I’m not oppressing anybody, on average women probably make more $ than I do. But yet I’m treated like I’m a senator trying to pass laws against women, or I’m somehow more well off because I potentially have an ancestor 200 years ago who had slaves.
Everyone has an ancestor who owned slaves. Literally everyone.
@@jacobwiren8142 Only if you mean slavery in the broadest sense. Most people do not have an ancestor who engaged in a system of racially-dictated chattel slavery. Being a temporary indentured servant, with full rights as a citizen, is not the same as being property.
@@jacobwiren8142no they don't, slaves were expensive, if you are working class and come from a long line of working class people your family probably never owned slaves.
@@BH-te5fsactually the only places that didn’t happen were racially homogenous
@@sludge164 My guy, go far enough back in your family tree and someone has owned slaves. Slaves have been around for thousands of years, if you're going to argue that your ancestors didn't own, work, or take slaves, you're woefully naive.
I never see "good feminists" denouncing the bad/crazy feminists. At this point, "feminist" is synonymous with "crazy".
The hardest feminist will tell men to share their feelings but the moment we talk about double standards or anything that even slightly puts women in a negative light, they minimize what you say
No.
@@admaanhason7410 Yes, I've seen it happen in real time and to myself. If you don't and the people around you don't do it that's great. It doesn't mean a lot of people do.
Buy your "male tears" coffee cup.
They want you to share approved feelings.
Girlfriend: ''Why are you always so stoic? You need to share your feelings with me!''
Boyfriend: *Cries over the fact that his mother, dog, and brother all died recently*
Girlfriend ''Ew'' *breaks up with him*
"They're not trying to win an argument, they're trying to shut down an argument."
TRUE
You can't debate feminists. I've tried on a variety of forums. If you gain any ground or paint them into a corner you will get banned for 'misogyny' or 'trolling' within minutes, not days.
Also TH-cam auto deleting "offensive" comments (inconvenient truths)
He said under a video that is nothing but whining and demanding that the argument should just be shut down.
basically the left
wouldn't shutting down an argument, by definition, be conservative? Seeing as arguments cause change and/or progression?
So I work an office job for a large company and on international woman's day the head of HR (who is a woman) sent a company wide email in response. I'm all about equality, but to paraphrase what she said it was along the lines of, 'Men need to understand the advantages and luxuries they enjoy in the workplace, especially when it comes to career progression' . I worked so hard to get where I am now, and instead of empowering and uplifting woman, it undermined the effort of and diminished every male that has worked to get where they are. Also this is in a company where majority of upper management is female, and she was praised and applauded for doing this. HOW is this okay?? This is the point where modern societal feminism is at (in many cases) so it's no WONDER we're seeing younger guys turn on and become aggressive towards what was originally about genuine equality.
100%
The CEO of the company I work for is a woman. Half or more of the administrative positions are held by women.
Yet during company meetings and presentations, they bring up inequality towards women in the workplace etc.
A female CEO and a heavily-female administration, telling a huge group of men who make significantly less money about how much work "we still have to do towards equality". The dissonance is insane.
And yes of course the women in the company are celebrated every year on international woman's day. Celebrated purely for the genitals they were born with.
And of course it includes people who identify as women.
In other words, companies celebrate people who were born female, or those who renounced their masculinity, with absolutely no tie to their performance or hard work.
Truly it is a mystery why so many men are bitter about it.
Complain about it, make your voice heard, that’s what women did that’s why they are the bosses. If you don’t think it’s fair then push back. Don’t expect them to give up their new found power though. Men didn’t want to give it up, why would women want to? You have to at least ask, and if that doesn’t work then demand it
50 years to women lose the right to vote... i bet on it.
@@fifab82the way men complain is different from women tho .. it is aggressive and violent and causes even more destruction for the society
There is a sign posted in the bathroom at work that says; "Get closer, it's shorter than you think", posted by HR.
Imagine if HR was men and they posted ANYTHING in the women's bathroom. There would be massive lawsuits.
Women have all the advantage in society.
In 100 years they will describe our society as the age of madness.
You assume the insanity won't get worse and become predominant.
Madamness
@@philosophos4893 If it isn't stopped today then yes,it'll go worse and worse,potential dystopian society!
@SamBourgeois-mr4hq Not true
@SamBourgeois-mr4hq 100 years ago the US was having the best time in the world (we are talking pre-1929), same goes for Europe (except maybe Germany), the 1920-1929 period was even called the "happy years" in some countries (including mine), the only bad times in the 20th century was during both world wars, a few years after both world wars, and the 1929-1936 period, after that society was literally having the best time ever with the generation that lived during those times being the wealthiest and happiest (boomers), I always laugh when people try to compare before vs now, unless you go back to the medieval age we're currently living some of the worst times in mankind's existence, just a reason why in the west : birth rate
As a male, I've seen sexism several times but mostly against male.
As a teen trying to get a job in fast food restaurant employees telling me the boss only hire girls cause they clean better than boys. (mostly in subways)
As a college student trying to be a waiter cause it paidwell. They hired attractive girls instead even tho I was busboy there (happened in 2 restaurants)
As an adult, my job in construction you need 4-5 years experience to apply to big companies but woman gets instantly hired as soon as they get the diploma
So yeah I grew sceptic about the purpose of feminism nowadays.
Historically theyd hire one (pretty)woman everywhere just so the boss had a good looking woman around on his payroll. Now you get tax cuts for hiring certain % of women that are so large that if you dont your business literally cant stay competitive(by design)...
Its a 'soft' mandate
Had it happen with a little gaming store in a city I lived when I was younger. If you don't want to hire me, just don't hire me. Don't tell me you only hire women because they are more trustworthy and responsible.
I think he had other reasons he only hired women but that's besides the point...
@@MultiIhatethis Abusing power dynamics is a common one. That can be in trying to get sexual favors in return for favoritism at work, or in the sense that women tend to be less argumentative to "authorities" so you can pressure them to do or accept things more easily(in context to actual work, or pay)
But alot of women are happy to abuse or take advantage of any or all of these also these days as its all become normal and normalized.
As a teen i worked at a coldstone where the boss only hired girls. The only men were me and my brother and the GM was a sexist who literally would tell the boss all the men are too slow to work there. I had to fight for my job at 16 and play work politics to get the other woman to speak up for me and my best friend who also is a male from being fired because she didn't like men. Funny thing is when a 300lb woman came into the store and shit all over the bathroom (walls around the toilet it was everywhere it was like she exploded) The Toxic Fem GM asked me to clean it because "I'm a man" I told her to do it because she's the GM lol. She later called the store owner and HE cleaned it up. I think she loves woman so much he should have made her clean it. The audacity to tell me to clean it because I was a man was insane to me. Some people just have no business with even an ounce of power.
So true, I remember at a Uni careers fair where a company was like "this is an opportunity for women only" 👀
Schrödinger feminism : every women is the eternal victim of men AND strong independant woman who can do everything better then men. Now when something happen (when the box is open) they choose the more rewarding status.
What's disheartening is most women happily take advantage of this too. Which means most women don't actually have principles they find immutable, they simply act based on what is best for them in the moment.
@@waiwai5233… I mean you’re right, but you don’t have to be an incel about it…
yes, thats women in a nutshell, they are not actually good.@@Bonesawisready926
@djandjb1 Oh so just by speaking is inshell , LoL
You see the Protection the glorious (0) Owulala the VgnalGold HAHAHAHAHA *YOU* *WILLINGLY* HAHAHAHA s
@@djandjb1 so saying what it is makes someone an incel now? got it.
As a man who lives and grew up in Finland its always ridiculous to me when I hear a Finnish woman complain how women are disadvantaged here,etc,etc. the things you hear in the U.S. and every single time I bring up how she wasnt forced to sacrife a year of her life before college for mandatory military service with the threat of going to prison they dodge the subject or say thats not relevant. Now I didn't mind going to the army for a year and didnt think much about it because it was something I knew was coming since I was kid. It gave me more time to mature but when I think about it now its kind of bs. When I started college every girl I knew from high school was already on their second year, starting internships,etc. 1 year ahead of me and I was 1 year older with 1 year less experience pretty much. In the end I got a bunch or stupid, fun and awful memories from my 1 year in the army but if I have ever seen inequality between genders I would say this is one of those things.
Funny, a study just came out showing that something like 6/7 Finnish women agree with mainstream social justice talking points vs 1/7 men. It also showed that the more you agreed the more miserable you were on average. Interesting read
Lets not forget that if the worst comes to pass everyone will expect the women and children to flee west and all men to grab a rifle and march east.
They haven't changed that yet? I thought most of us in the Nordic were pretty similar there? in Norway in 2010 they made it so gender didn't matter, everyone has to show up now for that first meeting at least.
it's never going to be "good enough" for some people, they'll just keep moving the goal posts.
Similar in the US. Politicians talked about bringing back conscripted service during the big Middle East conflicts. Men in the US would have Ben forced to serve. Women wouldn't be. Who's pushing for equality again?
3:31 That's what I've always been confused about since I was a kid. The name "feminism" itself inherently leans toward women yet everyone says it's just about equality.
They should call it equalism.
@@asmyself4021cringe, just call it egalitarianism
@@yeetman4953 The problem about egalitarianism is that its unclear about the topic at hand: You want equality for sexes, races, ages, religions, plies of toilet papers? Feminism narrow the topic to the issue at hand, so I have no problem with it (since it "should" try to bring the women up to par with men in most areas). The problem is the feminazis hijacking the movement
It started with feminism and then someone thought the same as you and egalitarianism was born.
It was for the first two waves, then waves three and four came along and it was no longer fighting for "equality" but supremacy.
One of the big problems for the "good" feminists that theoretically don't hate men, is that they rarely if ever acknowledge, let alone criticize, the feminists that hate men in their name.
That makes it very hard to defend the ideology as one that is really about equality for men and women. It comes across more often as "men and women should be equal, but also women should be more equal than men."
Ideologically, they can't criticize it. Diversity of tactics is a political ideology that is specific to the left. It's why they don't call out riots or physical attacks against ppl who don't agree with them.
@@TitusAndromadonIt isn't specific to the left. Lol
This is the recourse of ALL ideologues.
No True Scotsman fallacy basically
Tbh it’s more of a situation where two things are happening:
- echo chamber effect that is the internet, where you tend to surround yourself with confirmation bias
Along with:
- the Lefts propensity for cancelling itself having different viewpoints
The patriarchy concept is widely understood by normal people to be problematic for everyone in that type of structure. Unrealistic expectations on all gender roles.
But twitter is full of psycho people who surround themselves with people who support a view that doesn’t reflect the majority of people and blows it up, making it seem like it’s mainstream … but it’s not.
Don't ask "good feminists" to call out "bad feminists".
You tell "bad feminists" that they're not feminists.
It's VERY effective. They don't have a counter for it.
I've always been a more "effiminate" guy ever since I was young and I always found it interesting that most of the toxic masculinity I've experienced actually came from woman. Primarily ex girlfriends lol
Same!
That's because women will act not like men, but as what they perceive men to be, often without having actually studied men's behaviours. You see this a lot in modern Hollywood writing too. Women display tons of ''toxic masculinity'' according to the definitions of its own writers, but they don't realize it because they're writing women.
@jamescheddar4896 Seriously, once guys get over the age of 16-17 they don't bully anymore, its very rare.
Largely, same
@@JoshDragRace0688 We have better things to do with our time and pro-social behavior gets you closer to your goals than anti-social behavior. Women never learn this.
giant leap in woman being liberal, slightly more conservative men, half the videos I see on this data just analyze the men becoming more conservative as if that's the odd thing.
Women going to the left isn't that interesting. The left promises them more free rides so they abide.
because this people are progressive... that is why, they think they are right at all cost and if you are becoming conservative that is bad... because man are the only ones that can stop or change stuff.
If only there was historical knowledge of women destroying society
Yes. Because alot of people that do the analysis and that work in media, have the deeply flawed idea that "Progress" is always a leftward march over time. This means that they don't even think twice about how insane the left has gotten over the last 2 decades, and instead are terrified and flabbergasted by even the slightest push in the other direction.
A visualization of how different philosophical views see things:
1) Progressive worldview can be seen as driving on a collapsing bridge and staying ahead of the crumbling behind you, meaning any slowdown or reversal in thier mind would be catastrophy.
2) Extremely conservative people view it as a road where on the left side of the road is a cliff-face and on the right is further inland, thus safer from falling off a cliff and therefor consider 0 drawbacks to going further right (and thier strongest argument is that the values they hold got humanity through actuall millenia of evolution and the rise and fall of civilizations).
3) The centrist position see a road along the top of a mountain ridge, where if you steer too far to either side you will obviously fall off the edge and crash and burn.
Personally I am in the center. If something is tried and obviously isn't working, the solution usually isn't to TRIPPLE DOWN on that path, but to turn back onto the road. And if you over-correct to the other side, you neee to turn back again before going off that edge instead. It's a balancing act.
it's funny how we use that word "liberal" yet those liberals want the most rules and structure the world to their ideals in a forceful way and anybody who disagrees is a bigot.
It's kind of an indicator of how screwy the structure is that so many people don't realize what actually useful skills are. We never did young people such a huge disservice as when we told them all that they could be whatever they wanted in life and to follow their dreams no matter where they led. Newsflash: if the world doesn't value your dreams, you don't get to follow them.
Well you CAN follow them but don’t expect to get paid.
Too many people value being "right" over solving a problem.
Not everything is a problem ...just live and accept people being not too perfect....
What if the solution is sexist, racist, phobic and all slurs they throw at you. When they won't acknowledge the problem how can we talk about the solution.
I hard disagree. I think it's about emotions and control and has nothing at all to do with being right. The right answers should be obvious and simple but it gets muddled for an agenda.
@@DrHuxley- There is no obvious answer for this. It's too complex. I honestly do not think there is an answer. I was saying years ago that Japan was just ahead of the curve. Well. The US has caught up to where Japan was and Japan is further still. All those years ago Japan didn't have social media or Tinder. What they had was an economic system after the crash that incentivized being single and an absolutely exploitative toxic work culture. Some other social stuff in their too, and they didn't have this version of feminism. But those were the two big problems. Back then it was mostly men checking out after looking at it. Now it's both men and women. Well. The US is catching up fast to where Japan was. Add in social media and other internet apps. Here we are. To fix this we have to rearrange the economy, which isn't going to happen. Fix work culture, which isn't going to happen. Fix some social stuff, which isn't going to happen. And convince the entire country to drop certain parts of social media. Which isn't going to happen. We're going to have to do the same thing Japan is reluctantly doing. Redefine normal. It isn't going away. It's a new feature of society we just have to learn to deal with.
Oh And Asmon is wrong. It's possible to work very hard, do everything right, and still end up broke. He got very very lucky. He knows that, he says that, but I don't think he truly understands the full ramifications. I know he still has RL friends outside of this that aren't doing the greatest. He's talked about it. But it's very hard to put himself in that mindset completely.
@@halycon404didn't read all that, but Japan is a miserable place to be alone.
Everywhere is now.
A couple of years ago I was on R*ddit and responding to some far left people who were going on about how "gen z will save us", I told them that gen z will end up being the most conservative generation in a long time, they laughed and insulted me. I bet today they are screeching to the skies.
Don't forget: you are told _by authoritarian demagogues from the Left_ that Gen Z men are becoming more conservative. Context always matters.
people often rebel and do the opposite of their parents. millenials being hyper liberal are pushing their kids towards conservatism.
Well that's great but is it enough to fix the fact of our declining populations?
I love how other people tell us how we should behave. That's the classic "You're lazy" or "You don't work hard enough" we've been hearing from older generations but now it's "You will save us" because they were too lazy to help themselves. It's almost as if the older generation was projecting what they wanted to see in the younger gen.
@@Dante02d12 this is something that nobody else talks about but im gonna bring it up here because i feel like people ignore this thought process. so my theory is: Every single generation after gen Z will be more conservative than the last, and the left is trying to take over the culture to counteract this. Think about it, most modern people of the left want to live child free lives, as seen by the rapidly declining birth rates and the new sense of self prioritization taking over old gen Z and young millennials, you wanna know who are having children? People with traditional conservative family values, people who go to church, etc. A majority of the time, children eventually take on the values they were raised with, including myself. The left knows this, so they attempt to take over social media and education, turning it into an echo chamber of leftist ideology, therefor swaying people away from right wing values.
its because as a man, you are constantly told how horrible you are and how much power you have over everything apparently, im still yet to see any of the benefits though
Then embrace it. Miserable people will always hate you for no reason, be strong in your beliefs and determined. Don't give them an inch
For some men and boys when they are told that they are bad and evil all of their lives someday they might finally believe it. Most of the time they only take themselves out but not all the time
@@fullmetalalkami6466 I just make jokes about it. Like if I come up with a good idea at work to fix something and get compliments I just look at the outspoken feminist I work with and say something like "male privilege is amazing, you should try this". The uptight shrews hate jokes because laughter keeps them alone in their misery, make them suffer alone while in your presence.
@@simshengvue5799 lol….. thats not a social problem that’s having bad parenting
@@white_isnt_a_race2338 Which benefits? Based on your username I'm 99% sure this is bait.
This is actually rather simple. We all agreed back in the day that sexism *against women* was wrong. We never actually had that conversation in the opposite. It turns out that women think sexism against men is good and men are waking up to that
most of these guys dont have a gf.. let alone an OF girl whos in the top earners. some are probably abandoned by their own parents. they dont seem to have any actual insight into how ppl with a relationship function. why arent they helping each other if they hate women ? why do they expect help from them ?
I agree that a lot of this is self-inflicted, but one point that isn’t highlighted enough in this video is how institutionalized this is. I’m finishing up in University and the attitudes that this guy is complaining about in the video is being TAUGHT. I walk out of the class actively trying not to hate women because of how disrespectful my class is towards men. The professor encourages it!
Then you should do something about your issue, not hate women.
You did not listen to a thing they said did you?@admaanhason7410
@@levilhirondelle4561 In the video? The video has nothing to do with the comment. Try not to mix those together.
Now, do you disagree with my comment?
@@admaanhason7410 I ment the comment you were replying to
@@levilhirondelle4561 What exactly do you not understand?
Women decided to collectively replace the idea of a husband with the Government. The government, understandably, is okay with this so long as women vote for more government. So, of course men would shift towards the "Less Government" party. The government is the Chad a man's fiance cheated on him with. What does it make you when you pay your wife's boyfriend to call you names and villainize you?
Yep, this is what I've been saying.
No, government is the abusive lying spouse.
So it's the government's fault
ohh no no no, you wont get away that easy ,the government and the women.
Silly women , no accountability is for kids.
Well, the government is more reliable than a person's feelings.
The word you're looking for is "Egalitarian"
If you ask a feminist about egalitarianism, they will tell you that's an MRA talking point.
No.
@@admaanhason7410 care to explain that?
@@admaanhason7410explain?
@@SirBladewind What is there to explain? I'm an egalitarian feminist.
@@Jimothy-723 ...?
Feminism was never about gender equality, even in the beginning. Many of the historical claims of feminism are simply one-sided interpretations of how genders were/are required to function in society. For example, women claim to have had less job opportunity back 100 years ago, and while that might have been true, it was due to the fact that men were expected and required to support a family. Women were not required to support their families with the money they earned. So giving jobs to women would lead to supporting 1 person, giving jobs to men would mean supporting 2-3+ people. Another one: men got the vote just because they HAD to go to war. Women claim they had a lot of limitations and obligations, but so did men. Both sexes were oppressed by their obligations.
Men were allowed to vote because they were the only onse conssidered to make rational decisions.
I'm keeping that somewhere in the back of my mind
While men were traditionally the breadwinners in the household, that did also give them more social power and freedom. Womans limited job opportunities also stemmed from the lack of educational opportunities, legal rights etc. In the early 1900s more universities admitted women, but the choices were more restricted to fields deemed appropriate for women at the time. In the US until the 1970s woman couldn't open their own bank account without a man, be it her father or her husband as a co-signer. Also, why wouldn't she spend her money on her children? Its not like women today only spend money on themselves.
Men didn't even get the vote until after so many of them died in WWI that it was seen as unfair that men could be sent to die by a government they have no say in.
@@Johannarori X
"How many women directed genocide throughout history and how many men?"
Historically, queens in Europe were 40% more likely to start wars than kings.
And Queen Mary I literally committed a genocide against protestants. But even though there was someone who literally had the nickname "Bloody Mary", "there would be no wars if women ran the world".
If you notice the more chaotic politics and world events have become has been so since more females have entered the realm. I think there was a reason throughout history why females were not allowed to vote or hold important positions. Far too emotional and irrational
Don’t confuse them with facts
That’s true relatively speaking but since there were 95% male leaders more male caused them.. its a shit statistic that doesnt say much. Besides that, i do agree with you.
Asmon rich non working male is very disconnected from this subject and has many poor takes on this subject.
Elizabeth Bathory inspired the entire myth of the vampire with her atrocities.
"Genocide was committed by all men"
Look up Ghandi's daughter.
Bloody Mary's another good one
Who was that lady Mao was with? Didnt she cause some trouble?
The more I learn about Ghandi, the less I understand why people idolize him.
@@miragebarrage9748he fits the narrative of oppressed vs oppressor.
Princess Mabel from Holland is a good example
last time i pointed out that women have all of these beneficial school and work programs while men have none i was called a misogynist and was told to go to behavioral training to "undo my internalized misogynism". funny how that works.
Don't ever take that shit again
Get offended get mad and make it clear how disgustingly offended you are, you can legitimately get people in so much trouble for discrimination if you are visibly upset and honest
Lmao behavioral training. This world is fucked.
@@VemoNotRated That's true, not only does this appear to be interpreted as intentional harassment (6 months max imprisonment) under Public Order Act, but it ALSO breaches Article 14 of ECHR--especially if it involves power dynamic. Employers are also held liable for staff conduct under vicarious liability, but I'm sure many know work-arounds with their insurers, which is why they use policies which push for a more neutral or 'healthy/safe' (corporate language) work environment to at least demonstrate their willingness to facilitate a positive working space. I cannot think of a possible defence for the accusers in this incident as currently presented, it is unreasonable to be verbally abusive over a simple misunderstanding.
As long as you respect women as people you're not a misogynist. Her use of the word doesn't even fit the definiton, pointing out simple matter of fact has nothing to do with the definiton LOL. The victim mindset is real with people.
@spoonerman "As long as you respect women as people"
The definition of mysoginy is not "Being disrespectful towards women". 🤦
"Monkeys can detect unfairness so obviously so can men". This is true, however monkeys tend to address unfairness with violent behavior lol
That’s the point. We have a limit. Monkeys just reach that limit very fast.
As we should. Nobody should get a free ride in life by showing their body n having all the fun and still expect amazing treatment when they get older aswell.. no man should save a woman cause we all know women run from their past and would never save a man in conflict
dude you want women to fix your problems?? because you want your OF girl to quit OF why are you guys obsessing over OF girls instead of dating nonOF girls?
@andrewevans7992 Men can solve the only fans problem, stop buying subscriptions
@@andrewevans7992Women have different challenges. They are leveraging some of the things that come with those challenges. Your not thinking of how different their life is from yours, in the same way they aren't thinking about how your life is different from theirs. Don't like the people creating the problem. They act differently because they have different pressures on them. Take what advantages you have and use those. If you take them time to truly understand the struggle of others they will take the time tomunderstand you.
And there will be consequences. No action is taken without them.
The whole "men do it, too" is so tiring. The point that it's overwhelmingly one-sided is just disheartening. Being milquetoast is lame as hell.
Surprise surprise, Asmon can't stop being a simp and always stands for in the same category as Hassan Poki and Amurat.
Honestly, redpill and men like Andrew Tate and gigachad based cultures weren't even a thing until peak feminism, they're born out of years feminism and misandry. People seems to forget that every action will have a reaction.
To illustrate the how little people care about men, or perhaps how much toxic feminism has spread, you almost can't talk about men's issues without paying lip service to women's issues or downplaying male issues.
Generally speaking, the issues women have are different than men, so it’s also just dumb to say, “men do it too”.
Another funny thing about the "but (insert group) does it, too." response.
This is a smaller percentage of that group that is like this. If you have such a problem with this type of behavior, why are you trying to copy it?
All of the complaints they have with "toxic masculinity," but when they adopt it, it makes them empowered.
A man dedicated his savings for a mens shelter since there are no mens shelters. The feminists sued him into oblivion.... he passed away just wanting to help men as he was once homless from divorce.
you cant drop info like this without telling the source man
@@VanFlores-o7zI don't recall feminists suing him just denying gov funding. The guy's name was Earl Silverman, you can look him up with mens shelter for more details. Unfortunately dude self-deleted shortly after the shelter closed from lack of funds.
@@arthurblack2663 Thanks for info. 👍
@@arthurblack2663 Goverment is in control of ''ze feminists'' so thats effectively the same thing..
Its also more likely to be an assassination, not a suicide.
@@arthurblack2663 this is a two fold failure, though. If it's true women were resistant too it, if men had donated and had his back he would have been okay. I just had a guy call into my work panicking that his gf was going to unalive him so I know how serious this stuff is. Tried to get him some help. But men have to help with this stuff and should have rallied around him. If he didn't have funds that's why
Whos the guy in the red shirt? I don't recognize him.
That’s asmondgold
Rare shirt LULW
I think it's an out of season April fools jokes
He probably had a social event recently as i saw multiple shirts recently, implying a shower
Looks AI af...
1:00 it's not surface level. Hatred of men forms the backbone of the bulk of feminist theory. Go ahead. Read some Dworkin. Read some Simone de Beauvoir. If a feminist says she doesn't hate men she might genuinely believe it, but her ideology compels her to think and act in ways that are dictated by man-hate. I ain't really religious but, Matthew 7:20. By their fruits you will know them.
Who is pushing to remove those positive masculine role models from modern media? That's right, the same people who complain about "toxic masculinity".....almost seem intentional doesn't it?
While they make their "strong girlboss characters" loaded with the so-called toxic masculinity they despise and call the audience sexist when it doesn't appeal to them.
@@KAMFP extactly
@@KAMFP Its literally everywhere. I was watching "The Emoji Movie" with my daughter and the lead female character "Jailbreak" goes on a rant about how there were no female emojis and females can't be what they want to be...while simultaneously being the ultimate hacker as well as an emoji princess.
Positive masculity. I never heared of that.
Easy to say who. The nations, cultures and orgsnisations who oppose the west.
Sadly the western european have fallen in education and knowledge - so they do not have the intelligence and mindset to understand cultural attacks and enemy action. Bezemov talked about this.
There is a word for it. Egalitarian, meaning you actually want equality without picking one side's issues over the other.
How about utalitarianism?😊
Egalitarianism when applied to men and women is arguably worse than feminism since it hurts both sides instead of just one. Women's sports for example isn't egalitarian, yet it's necessary to be fair because women aren't equal to men.
@@sticks7857 Egalitarian doesn't intrinsically mean you instantly ignore obvious aspects that aren't equal for specific reasons such as in sports. Just that you are able to treat situations without a specific bias towards one side or the other. As in both men as women have problems, we don't need to just worry about one side or the other as they can both be worked on. That is an exceptionally simple minded view of the idea.
@@JohnA... Men and women have different problems, and treating them as though they're equal when they're anything but isn't going to work. We can see this playing out in real time as forced quotas in workplaces to have an equal representation of different groups in the name of egalitarianism is causing a competency crisis as they're forced to hire less qualified people in order to meet those quotas.
@@sticks7857in that case you've clearly not understood the concept of this ism.
Be the kind of man Uncle Iroh would want you to be.
Underrated comment right here
The goat!!!😊
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Real one
I'm bipolar to the point that I'm medically disabled . I've been rejected for the most basic of help for the most ridiculous of reasons . If I was a woman or if I was a member of a minority group people would be losing their shit at the level of incompetence I've had to face in the face of a mountain of medical documentation and evidence. Instead they just keep telling me to call back when I'm 55 and that's including the cowardly lawyers that won't take the case cuz they might have to do a little work. They're literally making me have to come to the point where it is going to reach a day where I'm going to have to choose crime over hunger. Whose fault is that going to be ..... I've been screaming for help for 25 years but who's fault is it going to be ......
Same here bud, trying to get a job that will take care of me and pay for my medical issues. I have been diagnosed with bipolar disorder and rejected from help at every turn. Kinda scared I might snap some day even though I'm on medication.
I’ve never understood how people that man hate never sit and question if men are so bad why don’t they consider how a mother raises a son?
Because those people can’t ever hold women accountable for anything
because blaming a woman for something would break their brain
For them the mother will either be a poor single mother so its actually the not present dads fault for everything wrong the mother does. If the parents are together then it's actually still the dads fault and he's the abuser who made everything bad.
Obviously these kind of women often never had a father themselves so they just don't understand, they hate because it's something they never had.
And then you just have all the rich/middle class girls from a perfect nuclear family who are spoilt and lived without struggle who NEED to be a victim somehow to capitalise on the attention. Never mind they're the most privileged in society.
They forget that.
They also want to blame men for "beauty standards", but leave out the whole fact that its not fathers teaching their daughters they need to care about cosmetics or fashion, its their mothers, sisters, aunts, and female peers. Dudes don't really care about those things, we can appreciate them some, but anyone who wants more than a fling knows that those things wash down the drain and aren't important in the least. Its not men who force these things its women.
Because humans are complex are take information from every possible avenue not just his mother? Also boys tend to emulate men in their live rather then their mother because they often wanna be men you know.
An entire generation of boys were treated by the school system like defective girls, and many have never experienced a day of male leadership in their lives. The fact that things in society are still working as well as they are is a miracle.
For real
I was just getting outta school as shit was changing, Im never letting a kid in public school if I have one
Give it another 10 years. I would start stocking up and moving far far away from cities.
More like three generations.
@@OniGanon i guess I can attest to 2 at least myself
@@VemoNotRated u wont incel
No, genocide wasn't all men. Look up the history of Madagascar.
If women had seats of power more often, I don't think there would have been less death or wars, it is simply that the role women played in politics was usually different, but behind almost every despot are women who usually agree with them.
Just look at how many serial killers get married in prison. The common name is "Bonnie and Clyde Syndrome" and a certain percentage of women are attracted to and sexually fetishize violence.
Also look up Cersei Lenister
At least in Europe, it was statistically shown that female leaders were slightly more likely to instigate conflict. Just think of a girl trash talking some dude expecting her boyfriend to defend her. Yeah, a Queen does that but instead she uses an army.
@@mr.wigman thats not an actual historical figure...
@@squirrel-e7j Its a joke
In regards to the Bonnie and Clyde syndrome, isn't one happening now in the USA? I forget his name but it's a dude currently on trial who killed girls, and women are swooning for him, women even made a gofundme for him
Asmon is giving feminism a pass here. The character from Metallic Rouge said it best(so much wisdom in Anime), it doesn't matter what the movement was originally about, it was always going to get greedy eventually. It isn't some women hijacking feminism, feminism simply worked so well that women(in general) got greedy and didn't know when to stop.
The movement was originally evil dude.
@@paccawacca4069ding ding ding shadow ban incoming threat to system detected
@@paccawacca4069 Was trying to get women voting rights and enter the workspace evil in your mind? I think they had legitimate problems that are more or less solved now.
Exactly. Look up it's founders. Literally what they call people who don't agree with them nowadays. 😂
Something something rejected painter something.
@@paccawacca4069 The ENTIRE MOVEMENT is based off women being a victim and if women are the victims who are the abusers? ofcourse men.
the movement says ALL WOMEN are victims and deserve more (which is NOT TRUE) and that ALL MEN ARE ABUSERS and gain/benefit unfair benefits and privledged (WHICH IS EXTREMELY NOT TRUE)
giving more unfair advantages and sociall power to women in mass while crippling, demonizing and harming men in mass.
the movement was always evil, even when you look at the past, it was always about political and social power, not about rights and needs.
It's not that it's "unfair" that a 19 year old man can watch his 19 year old female counterpart making 8k/week. It's that she makes 8k a week while complaining about how hard life is for women compared to men.
If she's making 8K per week, data shows that she's overwhelmingly likely to be receiving, on average, approximately 70%-75% of the 10K+ per week a man is receiving for the exact same job. Ignoring sh-t like that is why this video is nothing but whining that will perpetuate the conversation, not end it. You want it ended? End those kinds of disparities. That's the straight-line, path of least resistance, fastest way to achieve the goal of no longer having to have this conversation.
@@esqueejy The original comparison was that an 19 year old girl can make way more money doing Onlyfans than any 19 year old guy could earn doing any kind of job. 8k a week is about 420k a year, and you are saying that she is receiving less than a man doing the same job? How many male OF creators are receiving even close to 420K a year?
@@esqueejy There are zero situations in which a woman makes 70% of what a man makes for the "same" job. You're being lied to with statistics to get an emotional reaction out of you. That statistic has largely been proven false. The reasoning is managerial positions vary A LOT when it comes to salaries. A man can make 70% of what another man makes, because he hasn't demanded a higher wage nor worked for it.
In static salary ranges, it is illegal to pay someone based on gender.
If what you were saying was true, companies would hire only women, since they could pay them less and pocket more profit... but they can't do that because it doesn't exist.
@@esqueejy ... The male-female wage gap doesn't apply to Only Fans what are you talking about??? Are you high???
@@shigeminotoge4514 he seems to be infected
That pendulum everyone talked about is swinging back.
What pendulum? An online survey answered by about 200 people? That pendulum?
@@davidlauderdale7147what are you trying to achieve
50 years for women to lose the right to vote.
@@davidlauderdale7147 well you dont live in reality if you dont see this in the real world... hell even on the internet that is true... the pendulum is called "men's wants" if men wants feminism to be gone it will... if women want feminism to be gone it will never be gone... unless they did the same as before... manipulate men into voting feminism in but on the oposite... women can only do stuff if majority of man allowed... is just a fact.
@davidlauderdale7147 leave the woke signs and stickers up so you can be thanked
It’s so engrained in society that Zack found a way to blame men at the end lol
Lol yep, probably doesn't even realize it either.
he's also just 30-something.
because of how sheltered all of you were, 33 really is the new 23.
you all need to go way older (70s) if you want to find the world's last real men.
@@asdfbeauthe seventy year olds were the ones that hepled this along they were hippies then bank managers then helped push the patrioct act. They were the FIRST sellouts
He's also pumping out the just world fallacy all day long
He's a normie that doesn't exactly focus on political shit. Can't be helped ig
12:30 Yup. I’m a 41 year old dad and the apprentices at work always want to treat me like a dad. They want to impress me, or more commonly, want to have confrontations that prove I care, if that makes sense.
Im 21 and my apprentices do the same thing!
Growing up and watching the societal shift over the last 2 decades or so made it almost impossible for any sane man to be / stay a feminist. Women were behind and struggling in some ways, so we changed literally everything to help and cater to women. That's fine! I'm okay with that, I want everyone to have equal opportunity. Now, men are behind and struggling, and what do women say? "Man up", "that's men's problem", "women are just better". Women have really showed their true colours, and yes I'm confident in that generalisation.
Look up the statistics for college attendance and graduates by gender, look up deaths of despair, look up homelessness, look up sentence inequality, job mortality, the list goes on. Men are hanging on by a thread and yet feminism keeps grinding. Women look at the top 0.0001% of men, these rich CEO types, and cry about oppression, not realising that the majority of men are way below them already.
"Amen sis" "preach" "yas queen"
Generalization isn't helping, it cheapens your otherwise solid statement.
@@ba3725 When I see a single reason to believe it's not all women, I'll say it.
@@Koroar I don't think you've talked to a large enough variety of women recently. There's a bunch of very kind-hearted women I know, and it looks to me that you've only been exposed, either through social media or through real life, to the kind that you mentioned in ur comment. I believe a lot of what you're saying though, because I've met a lot of nasty women who hope for all men to suffer and all that (and those appear to be the ones that surround you online/irl) but u just gotta trust me when I say not all women are like that.
Sorry if my answer seems like it sucks, but I feel like for this type of question, rather than answering with statistics that some people may prefer (like "according to a survey by Rice University, only 12.3% of women in the U.S. believe in true gender equality"), it's better to use empirical evidence, so yeah.
@@我要吃你的狗 Women can feign humility and morality all they want. Theyre kind hearted so long as they have something to gain from it. Women dont go agaisnt the norm, and at the end of the day theyre not gonna be there for you. Im sure every guy that went through a painful soul crushing divorce once though that they had "the one".
Because a lot of issues around men aren’t taken seriously, it’s either handwaved or if you want to bring it up you’re called an incel
Then push back on the Incels who are misogynists and give other concerned men a bad name.
So what are you doing to change that?
He's talking about it, duh. The more men talk about it and care about it, the more it can affect politics and you will see it happen. For example, US government entertained the idea of adding the draft for women 4 years ago. If men keep pushing for equality, it might actually make the government abolish the draft (a win) or make women part of the draft as well (another win). Maybe you should pay attention to what is going on around you?
@@AnonningAnon but only men hear and take it seriously. In the end that doesn't help at all
... because society just doesn't care about men.
Like Bill Burr said: "They can't take responsibility for their own actions. It's always somehow our (men's) fault."
Feminism since its debut in the Order of the White Feather has always been created to emotionally coerce men into jingoism. Even Declaration of Sentiments was worded so as to avoid addressing the issue of power abuse.
Jingo Unchained
@@kaj7135 White Feather Brigade: I count three upcoming wars, conscript!
They're selling t-shirts on amazon that say "ALL men are evil" let that sink in xD
Brett, it's not that serious.
@@rogervanbarenhard disagree there, roger
@@daarksideyt Ikr? The kind of attitude that some men have regarding sexism done by women towards men : "It's just a joke, don't take it seriously" "women are more emotional, who cares what they say" is exactly why misandry continues to grow in the west.
Clearly profitting off dividing people, sheesh...
@@rogervanbaren Would you say that if Amazon was selling shirts that said all women are evil?
Who goes to war and gets blown up or watches their buddy get blown up in a trench? Who takes all the hard jobs? I work in a pulp mill. 12 hr rotating shifts, 4 days on, 4 days off. Take a nap then repeat. There's zero women here. Not because they won't hire women, we'd love to have some women around here it's all smelly dudes right now but women don't apply to jobs like this. Same with construction and any field that involves long shifts and or hard labor. And that's one of the real reasons for the wage difference between men and women. They want to force gender equality then are you going to force women to go to war and take hard jobs or is it only going to go in the other direction?
You know the answer to your questions brother. Equality only goes one way when the feminists are in charge.
Soldiers go to war, civilians do not. Poor people get the worst jobs.
Your issue is that you actually seem to want people to die fighting in somebody else's wars. The only thing 'gained' from forcing more people into war is more casualties.
@@admaanhason7410 "Soldiers go to war, civilians do not. Poor people get the worst jobs."
historically speaking that is fairly true, you had the "war front" and the "home front". while yes people at the home front were working hard to ensure they get the equipment to the frontlines, you need to realise that a lot of these people didn't wanna go to war. take ww1 for example, if you were a young men who refused to go to war, you would literally be shamed and called a coward for not fighting for you country, then you had the veterans who came back from the war and looked down upon as pathetic and useless. in either case, you you lost either way. the best way i can put it, if you were a civilian, life fucking sucked, badly. but if you were a soldier, you didn't care if life sucked, you would care more then you live another day and not die a gruesome death (big difference).
i don't think OP was insinuating he wanted people die fighting in a war. i think he addressing that if people want gender equality, why not also force women to serve (in the same way that men get drafted), if you wanna have gender equality, you have to enforce the same standards across the board.
@@admaanhason7410 Bro you are coping so damn hard in these comments. "Soldiers go to war, civilians do not" what were soldiers before they joined the army? On that's right civilians. What would happen if a draft was issued? A lotta civilian men would become soldiers.
@@merlin5662 It's the complete opposite. You don't need to force people into the military, you need to not force _anybody_ into the military. Saying that women should be forced into the draft "for equality" is a bad faith argument, no one should be forced into it. Do you understand?
Having a masculine father figure and a feminine mother growing up is one of the best things for someone to have and learn from to respect both sides equally.
Why do they only only need "father father" but need "mother" with no "figure" attached?
@@user-og6hl6lv7p because we're talking about men
@@user-og6hl6lv7p Even my mother knows why that is and she is a feminist LOL. Boys need father figures to teach them, she was always glad when i got a male teacher in primary school (there were a lot of female teachers). Male teachers really click with boys, just as female teachers click more with girls. Same goes with parenting lol.
Yet again, pretending that bad things happen to both sides equally.
Its... simply... NOT... true.
Every fucking time someone even attempts to address men's issues or men in general almost exclusively, they still for some reason have to pay lip service to women.
It looks pathetic.
It is pathetic
And then saying as many men say women are the problem as women do. NO! NOWHERE close! 🤦🏾♂️
That's exactly how feminism was perceived at first, give it more time and exposure showing your men real issues and one day your cause will be heard, it's the same with every new addressed social issue, it takes time to resolve generational injustices, and a lot of fights too.
I just found his channel like two weeks ago and he does this every chance he gets.
@@Valentina.Montano feminism doesn't fight against generational injustice, it fights against the biological nature of adult human men and women. In fact, the modern liberal position on most issues is antithetical to human nature.
Man does asmon have a new GF? the last 3 video's I've seen of his he has had a different shirt on
I think it’s his version of having a shower regularly.
If he gets a hair cut he will have to drop the goblin persona
Naw gotta look good for the outta context clips calling him buzz words
The feminists that reach out to men are the ones men will actually listen to.
Why would you listen to someone who denies/belittles your problems?
Case example: Norah Vincent
You want a woman to solve your problems?
Schrödinger's feminism: a woman is simultaneously a victim and empowered, until something happens. Then she chooses which state benefits her the most
Does well: Woman power.
Fails: Men did it.
Feminist: We want equality!
Men: ok.
Feminist: not like this!
Yup, they're equal and empowered while concurrently having no agency.
Men in power "we need to protect our women"
Women in power "protect me myself and i"
....great
the only "self help" advice ive seen that blames others are ones coming from women "you're 3000lbs? you're a 10/10 that man is just dusty"
at least from what ive seen on the men's side, they call you a loser and if you want chicks, you increase your value with fitness and finances and game. The insulting of women is just that, insulting, but at least from what ive seen, the ownness is always back on the men, and not to make demands of the chicks.
I worked for a major consultancy (
Where I work if you are in an area that has "problematic" DEI numbers i.e. too many white men, you have to get VP approval to hire another white man. You have to explain why the position isn't attracting the correct minorities. On the flip side we have areas with 50 employees in the org chart and every single one of them top to bottom is a woman and these areas are celebrated for "diversity". Our company is 75% women, almost 50% minority, yet we need greater diversity.
Is that a bad thing? They want more women to work.
@@HunterTN I bet you those women run ones are a nightmare to work in though.
@@davidlauderdale7147 It's anti-meritocratic, so yes. The only consideration for hiring someone should be their ability to do the job.
@@davidlauderdale7147 would they do that in women dominated industries? Not saying its necessarily bad but lets be fair at least, they would never be like "lets open up some opportunities for men nurses", they only do this shit for women.
In one of the arguments on the web around feminism, one of the feminists easily told me the ultimate truth about all of the arguments like this. 'Feminism is not about women being equal to men, feminism is about women have more rights and privileges, so stop bringing men problems to the argument -- feminism does not care of men problems by it's name'. That's a quote (translated from the language we had a discussion).
Not even trying to hide their disdain for males aren't they?
@@DingusJoe64they never were
this is what every -ism does, once it has power: the mask comes off and we move to "ok it's happening, but it's good that it's happening"
I am a bit tired of people pretending that the problem with feminism is a loud minority. I've studied in an engineering school and almost the entirety of the policies and discourse of feminists there were bigoted and discriminatory. And I can say the same for every major political event centered on feminism in my country. It's not a minority, it's the norm.
You know why there term "toxic feminism" is not really used?
Because that would be redundant...
true, the discrimination is in the name itself
Probably because its a weird term you made up.
@@BH-te5fstoxic feminist as a term has existed at least since around 2014-2016 during that rise of the social Justice movement. This guy didnt make it up
@@GlobalOutcast I'm sure in whatever weird, dark corner of the internet you guys live in this is a common term. In the real world, where people work jobs, raise families, and don't obsess over this terminally online garbage, it's just another thing to ridicule.
@@BH-te5fs Thats a lotta assumptions there pal.
Sorry bud but just because you don't hear it doesn't mean people don't say it.
Also I literally only use TH-cam and occasionally discord to game with my friends so idk what "dark corners" of the Internet you are referring to.
Will never not make me laugh that misandry is paraded as feminism nowadays
"nowadays"?
it's at the roots of the ideology.
the actual egalitarian idiology is a seperate thing.
@@nonyabisness6306 the form of feminism you're talking about has only been popular for the last 10 yrs or so.
That's exactly what it has lol.
@@i_dream_of_memesthat's not true. literally the first feminists where like this.
@@nonyabisness6306 no bro the first feminists were like hey can I vote too and maybe can you stop beating us with impunity
as a mother of 3 young boys, i have genuine fears about them growing up in a culture that demonizes masculinity. i was raised in a conservative christian home where men were revered as the strong leaders, head of house figures. women were nurturers and supporters. and i don't personally think there is anything wrong with these roles, it has been the structure and backbone of the family system for thousands and thousands of years. and i might get a lot of hate from other women when i say this but we can see examples in society where when women are given leadership control, the systems fail. one example, the education system is now almost completely dominated by women, and our education in this country has gone to shit. and i believe it is because women are more easily manipulated. i said what i said. i think men need to be supported now more than ever, and i try my hardest to raise my boys with the mindset of being a strong leader and protector, but this world is definitely doing its best to make it as hard as possible for men to succeed in that role.
I love hearing comments like this from women. It gives me hope. God bless 🙏
Finland has more female than male teachers and their school system is pretty good tho, the problem with American schools is censorship and lack of funding.
They’ll either grow up as monks or be destroyed by modern women.
There is no hope for modern family units.
@@StrawberryCocoaPowderThe Finnish school system has gone severely downhill since leadership over its design and planning was transferred to the Left. Discipline has plummeted, and finland has dropped quite low. On some facets of education, Finland is now below the OECD average. We are now trying to figure out what went wrong, and it's mostly that all discipline disappeared.
@@cubicajupiter Thats surprising is it ok if i ask you to elaborate more?
as a gen z I can say definitely what happened to me
I just quickly realized that the left, in general, don't have concrete, statistical data, but idealizations
Both sides use data however it benefits them, don't ignore reality just because of your ideology.
@@Valentina.Montano I know but the mental masturbation of the leftists is insane, they defend stuff that ideally would be perfect but in practice can not work
socialist practices is an example, there's 200 countries of data on capitalism and about 10 nations that tried socialism, yet some insist on it
also, the idea was developed in a basement, by one guy, 200 years ago, without any data, just marx's own philosophy and self-introspection
@@Valentina.Montano ignoring reality ? no I'm not a woman 😏
This may be a unpopular opinion but the women in my generation don't seem loyal or worth trusting to start a long-term relationship with. I am born in the late 90s. I married a woman my age in my early twenties and was cheated on, told i had toxic masculine traits, and physically abused. I left this marriage and stayed single for years with deep trust issues when it came to women my age while i just dated around. I currently am with a woman 12 yrs my senior and yes she still is emotional but there is HUGE difference in generational ideology/standards/upbringing WHATEVER THE HELL YOU WANT TO CALL IT. Is so massively different and i cannot overstate it more. My point is this. I speak in majorities as nothing is black and white typically. Women in younger generations have been raised wrong and will end up old and alone because men will not stay with them as they demand w.e it is they think they want and in turn ruin the relationship they are in due to total lack of respect for their male counterpart. This will come from poor upbringings and poor social and societal pressures that the world convinced them of in early age masked as independence and equality.
I was also born in late 90s and I never had a relationship to beginn with because of social media and trust issues like you (after your marriage). I'm not alone because I can't get any woman. If I want to, I could. But I just can't trust anyone since social media is a thing. (it started very early for me to not trust anyone)
This is ruining my life but also isn't. It's kind of a crazy the time we live in. I'm mentally already preparing to die alone and I'm kind of okay with it. I wanted to get married and have kids someday but not like this, I rather stay alone and die alone than to be in a toxic relationship with trust issues just because I'm afraid to die alone (yes, people really are in a relationship because they don't want to die alone, I have seen examples in real life)
I think the key for GenZ Men is to look for GenY woman (or maybe not, what do I know)
Sorry for my English, I'm not native speaking English
is not unpopular bro... every man in 2024 that is still single or not knows this in their heart... you just roll the dice, there is no telling if a woman is going to be the love of your life or destroy it just because one day she saw on instagram that you are not giving her celeb life style xD
@@x360mason Yea i have heard similar things from friends and colleagues. The choice to die alone is becoming more appealing than just the RISK associated with committing to women in this social media filled generation I.E the younger ones. All i will say is this to that point. There is loving yourself where your fine being alone... Then there is loneliness they are two different things brother. I say keep a open mind trust your instincts and see what comes. I am more happy than i have ever been and it was finding that woman that makes me feel like I'm important to her that did it. Yes she could leave me and turn out not to be loyal as a lot of women can do. But i would never say she was abusive , toxic, cheater. IT would be just because we didn't work as people.
Social media is to blame as well. Specifically, tik tok. Women literally get brainwashed by the shit they watch on that platform.
@@ArlindoBuriti but why the rush? I swear too little young people know how nowdays due to economic collapse (you barely get a job, can't easily build a house, pay rent etc) people get married around 28-9 years old. Meaning you usually meet "the one" a few years prior.
24 and still single? That's normal. But this rush from peers and family is creating so much despair.
9:20 is exactly right. It’s not about discussion, or debate, or ideas, it’s about bullying into shutting up so they have the unchallenged floor.
Feminist - WE WANT EQUALITY !
World War 3 draft time.
Feminist - YOU CAN'T DRAFT US THAT'S NOT FAIR.
( Equality )
You're right, it's either it's all or none. I think a draft shouldn't exist 💀
Yup. Once problems like potential war will start showing up, they will quickly change their tune. We've seen it a bit when Biden called potential recruitment to the army.
I wonder if women will participate when it finally happens
Draft is slavery, like literally.
@@baph0met The draft is a remnant of the covenant between the state and the individual(Men). Men agreed they would serve the nation and subject themselves to conscription in exchange for Civil Rights. i.e right to vote, right to bear arms, etc.
Women never made this pact and were given these rights for free. No wonder they do not full understand it.
Had a MALE professor for a university writing course that said he took a Feminism class. The prof had to leave for 2weeks~ so she gave the students a test to see who understood the concepts/knowledge the best in order to teach the class while she was gone. The male prof did the best! He understood and was able to reciprocate feminism better than women! They complained and the prof just raosted them and said "its honestly disappointing to hear you complain when a male has come to understand feminism better than a class of females..." Pretty legendary imo
“What should be the pinnacle/peak performance of a man? It shouldn’t be Andrew Tate; it should be Aragorn.”
Based.
Aragon is a fantasy character without flaws though lol
Who are the orcs, who is Sauron?
@@chinchilla505All great male characters will be based on Jesus. The perfect man has already been found. Aragorn is very Christlike
@@chinchilla505that's why he is one of the pinnacle of man kind
@@chinchilla505 He definitely has flaws in The Lord of the Rings
You HAVE to be dangerous in some capacity or you can't say no, there is no force behind it. Also being harmless does not mean to be viruous, you might just be an axemurderer without an axe. -jbp
I actually think superman is a good role model personality wise. He's genuinely a stand up guy who has faith in humanities' capability to do good and doesn't feel superior for having superpowers. He helps those who need it by using his strength as a protective force rather than one meant to do harm and talks things out before getting physical if its at all possible.
I grew up looking up to Christopher Reeve as superman, that's who I admired. I had a dad and two older brothers, couldn't look up to those narcs.
He's a good role model, which is why it's funny that his existence can still be considered damaging for kids
@@Willy_Warmer I don't think Ive heard that before and i dont see how anyone could see him that way. Unless they are referring to man of steel or some other superman iteration that doesn't get what the character is about. But that's only because they give the wrong impression of the character.
@@TimeyWimey. nah it’s not that. You encourage kids to look up to Superman as someone who you should want to be, which is good, because Superman is a selfless hero with good morals. However, at the same time, he also doesn’t really care for himself. He puts himself in harms way constantly, puts others needs before his own, doesn’t ever take the time to examine his mental health (despite the amount of shit he’d be dealing with realistically), and both feels and is essentially told in a lot of cases that he’s basically obligated to do all that despite the fact that he’s not. So on the one hand, there’s the good stuff, but on the other hand, it’s not hard for children to simultaneously get the message that they should put their needs last, not take care of themselves, put themselves in harms way, etc, especially if that sort of thing is further encouraged by society.
@@Willy_Warmer I see what you mean, and what you are saying helps to make him a more interesting character than what people see on the surface. I believe some authors have delved into that aspect of how he represents America's societal expectations, albeit not very often. Most get stuck at him being stronger than 99% of the dc roster.
Although it doesn't talk about American values that much, i think a good look into how superman's ideals can be manipulated by societal influence is the the Superman: Red Sun series/movie where he landed in soviet russia instead of america. He's almost the same person at his core, wanting to help others and keep the peace, but the different cultural background leads him to learn values that are completely opposed to the ones of the main universe superman.
What i think is at the core of the question of whether or not he is a good role model is the interpretation of what “Truth, Justice and a Better Tomorrow” means to different people. In a culture that's very patriotic, it could mean putting others before yourself, while others, like soviet Russia, would think it means to have a strong leader willing to do anything to ensure the survival and success of their own country at any cost. Its a concept that is basically whatever you make of it and can have good and or bad implications depending on what you think they mean.
Too bad many people think he's a boring character because of bad writing, huh :/
It is not easy being a man. Don't get me wrong I'm doing well in terms of money and status but emotionally it is sad. I lost my brother to suicide 2 years ago and just had to take it on my back. I understand it is difficult to reach out to someone in this position. Then I saw my sister and how much support she got
in 2024 if you dont tell young man that nobody even other man dont give a fuck about what you are felling, you are doing a crime to them... when you see first hand how women have their needs first in the emotional side everytime but your hole life was like... you are important too... show your fellings, is ok to cry little timmy... it is brutal, some of my friends broke down in front of me because they were raised like that... i thank god my father never did that to me.
I'm so sorry about your brother.
An Australian here, in the news recently there has been headlines about a court case where this women set up an art exhibition in am museum where basically its a women's only gallery and no man can see it. the women basically said her exhibition is an "opportunity to gather in peace as women without men." and teach men how women were treated in history. the court case was brought up on discriminatory grounds. to quote from the "artist"' "The Ladies Lounge is an essential space for perspective and reset from this strange and disjointed world of male domination,” .... “There should be more of them.” '.
If you replaced the word, man. With any race, you’d realize how messed up it is.
I wonder how the court will rule on this case....
@@frakismaximus3052 Per the BBC, the court ended up ruling that the art exhibition must allow men to visit.
@@ImmortalKitsune damn beat me to the punch
Art that reflects reality is not a foreign concept, if you're more mad at the art rather than what it represents then you missed the point lmao
About the "women don't genocide" comment. If you look at ancient Japans history with female rulers a lot of the post-Himiko ones were total war mongers. Evil doesn't prefer a any particular set of wobbly bits.
Let's be real, a lot of women had to do x2 evil in power to be taken seriously.
@@ba3725 Who the f said they committed x2 the evil? Only a handful were genocidal psychos, not all male or female rulers. Look up Indira Gandhi to know what happens when you try to 2x your evil xp.
Also, you proved the point. They chose power over innocent lives and more WAR-CRIMES against women.
@@ba3725? No?
Chances are those women were probably already royal, and you're saying it as if it was some sort of ritual.
@@asmyself4021In some cases it was.
@@uu-kq6mn In what cases?
I never heard of a queen that had to double the deaths just to be taken seriously.
If they show their hatred for men on the surface, out loud, just imagine the hate they REALLY have INSIDE
No this is flipped. Women know they can get away with saying it out loud so they do. Men are the ones holding silent hate inside because they can't say it out loud. This is going to reach a boiling point eventually and I fear that day.
They must be miserable lol
Most red pill content doesn't say their problem is women per se. They say work on yourself, fix yourself. Go earn, go to the gym, but avoid women because they won't help you get better, especially if you are already broken. You will not be valued by a woman or society except in your capacity to earn. Going into it with eyes open and knowing that doesn't hurt a guy. It lets them engage without being surprised by the way the world will treat them. It also tells them it is on them to fix it and themselves.
A lot does demonize women and generalize. They have great advice but can be much as as$ pulls as toxic feminist. Same coin different sides.
Exactly @@uu-kq6mn
@@uu-kq6mnin germany we say "so wie du in den wald hinein rufst, kommts auch wieder raus" or "the forest will return everything you shout at it"(echo). Thats a classic example, toxic feminists hurt men and hurt men hurt women.
depends on what you consider Red Pill, MGTOW, or MRA. Generally, i see MRA's as the type of male advocate who's interested in revising the laws and policies that needlessly leverage women over men in society. MGTOW, is about self-reliance to the point of seeing women as nothing more than distractions rather than potential life partners. And Red pill is nothing more than the Andrew Tates of the world.
@@joeldykman7591MGTOW is the best answer as they say you can chase women and you will never become rich or happy but if you chase happiness you will become rich and the women will chase you
Good God. Sometimes Asmon reminds me that not everyone follows politics. Feminism STARTED as a progressive/hyper leftist idea with no stated "end goal" to achieve. It didn't need to be "infected". The parasitism was baked in from the start.
What are you talking about? Feminism in its earliest politically effective forms stretched across liberal and conservative groups. The first wave feminists fought for the vote and for women to be able to own their own property and be protected in the event their husband or father died rather than having to rely on whichever man in their family got “their” inheritance. Second wave wasn’t even “hyper leftist” though there was a lot more overlap because pretty much every social movement was pretty leftist. That said there were LOTS of anti feminists on the far left. The hippy movement, who were avowedly leftie anti establishment, tolerated and even celebrated violence and rape against women.
@@fifab82 Feminism has it's roots within communism. This is well known by anyone who studies history. A core tennant of communist beliefs is the destruction of the nuclear family. Modern women are rejecting marriage and giving birth. Coincidence? I think not...
@@fifab82 source: trust me, bro
Everyone knows the University-line about feminism.
Some of us were alive to witness the bra-burning, the protests- all you know is what you've been told
@@asdfbeau His source is the fuckin history. And not the ancient one. You probably have family that's lived through the first wave of feminism, TALK to them, to the ones who lived it.
The progressive movement that started in the early 20th century had inherit flaws in the philosophy that would eventually lead to what we have today. You could make an argument that if feminism put the brakes on once second wave achieved its goals, we would be better off. I am saying that I don't think that would have been possible.
@@fifab82
It’s pretty funny watching Asmon try to say that women aren’t a causal factor in this instance given that every relationship he has with women in his life starts with him giving them money and ends the moment he stops doing so.
😂😂
Honestlly, he's trying too hard to justify it.
I know he wants people to stop blaming externals and pull themselves together, but eventually you have you mention the elephant in the room..
he also tries waaaaaay too hard to "balance it out" by claiming that women have these problems as well, while at the same time ignoring that it's on a totally different scale
@@Bloodhovenwell hes smart enough to know if he says the truth without adding in to much bs he will get perma shadowed
Absolute burn
"the problem today is that men are being told what "real" men are by womens with no fathers" -Dj Cara
You can't say the solution is better families and then say people are complaining about the external as an excuse. its true the solution is family and the external is what broke the family. You can't say people blame hoeflation when hoeflation destroyed pair bonding in women and put massive performance expectations on men in a society that hates and disadvantages them WHILE punishing them for trying to start families with women via pathological laws against them where the divorce prone women with zero pair bonding ability left is paid to leave him and destroy the family. You can't solve a problem if half the equation is censored because it makes people uncomfortable.
There is going to be a very large amount of bitter, unhappy women in 20 years childless and husbandless.
Is having a children and husband signage of success? Or is that your own opinion?
They made their choices, don't make the mistake of feeling sorry for those strong and independent queens.
@@davidlauderdale7147 It might just be his opinion but I've seen this thing called "biological clock" tick for women time and again
At least half of them will feel unhappy about this, whether they chose the single life early or not
There already are today.
@@LunarEdge7I’ve never heard of such a phenomenon. Do infertile men also have this “biological” clock?
I just wish people could have conversations in good faith with the goal of improving each other's lives. Back in 2017 when hurricane Maria destroyed half of Puerto Rico we all helped each other out, nobody was creating divides based on boxes and prejudices, some people even breaking into restricted areas to "steal" supplies that the government was hoarding for political leverage and passing them out to rural towns that were almost completely cut off due to structural damage and bad terrain. My two brothers and I personally went house to house helping who we could to prepare for the incoming hurricane and after we helped cleared debris from our community cause we had a lot of elderly neighbors, not once did anyone there think of themselves as separate from the community or have an Us VS Them mentality. I feel like people who create these issues don't seem to understand that at the end of the day people are more alike than they think but nobody ever wants to give the other the benefit of the doubt, they'd rather make each individual person that stands "against" them the epitome of all that they hate than think that most people just want to be happy and don't mind other people being happy. It's honestly sad because I feel as human beings we are better than this, but I also know that not everybody thinks like this and some of these people are just very vocal and chronically online. “If you look for the light, you can often find it.But if you look for the dark that is all you will ever see.” - Iroh
Say and try all that with Indians. Your tune will change quickly
The problem with feminism is that they don't denounce their own. And in some instances passively support it.
Playing a victim gets addictive after a while
It’s a weird flex for modern feminism and their supporters to blame me for something that a very small percentage of men have done over the course of history.
Time to grow TF up…
The guy in red is entertaining. He should start a twitch channel.
I hope he doesn't say anything to het banned for a while
The main problem with neo-feminism is that it identifies that most people in power and that most people who have been in power and have instituted, in some way, a "patriarchal system" are 0.1-1% of men.
The vast majority of men who work regular 9-5s trying to make ends meet have NO control over the way society is run.
And it is these 95% of men that are now being crippled by a society that is too hyper focused on elevating women to positions of power.
Instead, we should be dealing with those men in power and restructuring everything so that there is more equality for EVERYONE on a general level.
I remember when the whole Hugh Mungus thing went down, like, 9 years ago, I saw feminists saying "Oh, yeah, women like that definitely give feminism a bad name!" and then, when asked what do actual sane feminists believe, they recommended reading Andrea Dworkin
Ah yes “Bike Dike” Dworkin
I am training myself to live alone and be dependent on no one. There is no need for someone who would be menace to my peaceful life.
Individual responsibility is a dying concept. Everyone is seeking a boogyman to blame their hardships on when in reality, we are the ones responsible for our destinies..
Just replace destiny with foolishness
Something interesting to me about this is I recently tried to bring some awareness for men's health since its Men's Health Awareness month on the WoW forums, and that thread was taken down within a few hours because advocating for men is hate speech, antagonistic, and offensive. Meanwhile, a post that leaned very heavily into racism from both sides of the fence was allowed to stay up for three or four times as long. I guess the forums think men are worse than racism.
Wait, has Asmon found collection of sweaters?
Or access to original series star trek outfits
Guys, this shit happens with every major shift in progress and politics. The pendulum swings one direction until it goes too far and then swings back the other direction until it goes too far again. But in the end real positive progress that benefits everyone does remain.
I like your optimism. Thank you. We need more of that online.
Nice pfp
I like your optimism.
Many people don't understand feminism.
It started 200 years ago
I suggest everyone reads "Occult Feminism" by Rachel Wilson, it follows the whole history of it
It has academic references and nothing is historically controversial.
It is a jaw dropping book.
You may think that first wave feminism had good intentions, boy wait to hear that 95% of women were against it when it gained power
It doesn't sound particularly interesting. I'm sure there are many better works of fiction out there.
@@admaanhason7410
Lol, this just show you have no idea what you are talking about
@@LaxDux My comment heavily implies that I haven't read it, which is the case. Of course I don't know what the book contains without having read it, or read about it, but I don't need to know any such information to form an opinion on the way you describe it.
Given that you seem a bit slow, I will spell this out for you: my comment is my opinion of the way you described the book. I know fully well what I am talking about and unlike you, I can differentiate between opinions and matters of fact.
Now, if you would like to make some argument in favour of the book or give a more interesting description of what it is about, I welcome you to do so. Just try to keep it cordial, it is in your best interest not to piss me off.
@@admaanhason7410
You clearly don't understand what my comment is about.
My comment implied that someone who isn't interested in the roots of one of the most important ideologies in the past millennium and thinks that something containing the word "Occult" is a work of fiction, that person has no idea what he is talking about
men and women have different advantages in life. the problem is modern feminists focus on just the advantages men have and ignore the advantages they have and call it unfair.
Asmongold has made it as far to say that women and men are both to blame for the misogyny and misandry in the US, but he won't acknowledge that decades of misandry preceded any sudden uptick in misogyny. Feminism and the women who allied themselves with it are primarily responsible for the problems we see today. Again, we see the same thing of men weighing the blame for their own negative actions on men and letting women off lightly. Well, that's at least one step closer.
To find the truth, you don't add up the two opposing sides and divide by 2.
What did he say? "They are the cause of their problems"?
This is so ironic if you think about it.
sudden uptick in misogyny? There always was a high level of it.