I Added ROCK DRUMS To These POP Songs (Made Them BETTER!)
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 7 ก.ย. 2024
- I added rock drums to pop songs by Billie Eilish, BTS, and more...but did I make them better?
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Basically every single pop song out there has programmed drums at the moment, but what happens when I add rock drums to songs like "Bad Guy" by Billie Eilish, or "Dynamite" by BTS? Well, I think these pop songs start to sound a lot better! There's nothing like having a real drummer recording on a track so you can get more power and life from the overall song! I am a rock drummer, so it's time to add some rock drums to these pop songs!
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Which one of these songs do you think benefitted the most from the addition of rock drums?? Let me know!
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Last one
I'd say come n go💕💕
Aaand Bad Guy💯💯💯
All of them 🔥🔥
All of them benefitted from this. Robots taking our jobs... not cool.
holy shit, this dude should do rock covers of songs.
I'm in!
Yes please
@@DrumBeatsOnline let's go! start with Peaches
Hell yeah!
Ankor did a metal cover of Bad Guy that used similar beats. Definitely sounded great there too. Most of these definitely put more energy into the songs
I like what you did there ! Adding energy and groove without going in a "crazy drummer mode" and respecting the original song. That's a super sharp work 💪🏼
That's the difference between showy and good.
We NEED the full version of the Come & Go Cover!!
I love this! It really gives me a new perspective on pop music even.
Similar to how Polyphia takes their influence from it, I think both worlds of heavier or mainly acoustic music in general and pop-ish music can benefit a lot from eachother :DD
So glad you liked it!!
We need a full version of all of them!
@@luigitho9560 A greedy one I see..
But agreed. I would even put them into my Spotify playlist if they'd be uploaded over there :D
Check matt mcguires cover of this song
I would upvote but it’s at 69
ALL OF THESE ARTISTS SHOULD CONSULT GABE FOR THEIR DRUMMING FROM NOW ON. WHY AM I YELLING.
😂😂
this video is, as I see it, to inform us of live gigging situations, and how you should play to appropriately fit those situations. Honestly all the recorded versions of these songs, should not need these acoustic drums. There's a time and place for everything. This is telling us how to play live, in which most big artists that do live stuff have incredibly exceptional drummers already that know this all too well! For example, Aaron Spears touring with Ariana Grande or Carlin White playing for J Cole, both amazing instances of great drummers playing well live!
I think the Chainsmokers have it pretty locked in with Matt.
Yeah im still waiting on juice world too consult Gabe 😂
Conclusion, let the drums be played by an artist instead of a machine.
Exactly
Really the issue is one or two people write the songs, and melody is king. The people writing songs generally have no percussion background. A drummer can still write a sick electronic beat, but they aren't given the chance
@@hubbabubba5177 most pop songs have several writers, plus they have all the resources in the world to get a drummer in the studio to record a drum track. Its more a stylistic choice
@@austinsmith5593 Idk if it's even that, it's more a laziness/money thing. Sure they could spend a day or two in a studio spending a thousand or more dollars to get a great real live drum sound, or they could program drums in 10 minutes and be done with it. Or they could send a whole album's worth of songs to one drum programmer and he could have the whole thing done without having to source instruments and change heads and fuss with microphone placement and all this.
@@dgm2485 facts
This was so sick! Drums should definitely be a part of a live show! Recordings are one thing, but Bad Guy could be performed like that at her concerts, that would be really cool.
i think you adding rock drums really enhance the feel but the Billie Eillish song i think benefitted the most since the song as a playful energy to it so more dynamics drums really did the trick, keep on rocking Mr. Helguera !!
Playfulness is a really good point, actually. most pop songs are poppy, as they are basically designed to be catchy and playful mood enhancers. Opening up the drums adds another level of dynamic and playful energy to the songs, which they really benefit from.
Great thoughts Simon!
I thought the rock drums were too much and distracted from the vocal. I don’t think it would’ve hit with those drums. I takes away the sneaky feeling the song has
Dude, that was SO musical! I was kinda expecting you would just shred the shit out of these songs, but you actually kept the essence of the drums while emphasizing the feel of the entire song and make it come to life. Hats off, bro, that was awesome!
One of the Best drummers I've seen really bring pop songs to life with their drum parts is Matt Mcguire. He is insane when it comes to translation and building parts in.
Take away
8:12
9:21
Bad guy
10:40
11:15
Sorry
1:46
2:44
Dynamite
3:56
4:38
Come&go
5:41
6:52
Adding rock drums to most of these songs definitely improved them. It would be nice to see pop music incorporate more of that in the actual recordings. That said, I do think Bad Guy is the one that did not benefit from the rock drums. What gives that song character is the monotony and robotic feel. So, I think you would have to reimagine the whole song to make rock drums work for it. Nice work otherwise!
I disagree, I thought that the extra hi-hats and the toms sounded great in the mix.
Tottally agree with Aaron - I think it does change Bad Guy away from that almost robotic, techno sound. It's very good with the drums, but I think it's not what Billie and Fineas intended (I suspect they could have brought in a live drummer if they wanted.) Btw, there is an actual versionof BTS Dynamite performed witha live band , including drummer, on their NPR Tiny Desk concert.
Definitely, adding what he did in Bad Guy changed it too much
I am with Aaron, Bad Guy suits simple robot drums, the rock toms took away from the sparse simple vibe.
Absolutely agreed. That was the one that jumped out at me as just changing the feel of the song too much, and not in a good way. Just not the right vibe. At all. The rest were cool if you like rock drums (which I do.)
I'm in a cover band, and we do this thing almost constantly across all genres of music. Those tricks are in every genre, not just pop. And when you only have 4 guys you have to make adjustments to get the desired effects live even though it isn't exactly how it's played on the album. We only play a couple original songs live and even those are not played verbatim to the recording. I think the underlying message is just because an album is one way doesn't mean it HAS to be done that way live. In fact changing it live will probably improve the live performance.
Here's an example, we do a cover of the Journey song Open Arms, and there's no ride cymbal only hi-hat. That's INSANE to me, for that big of a ballad to just have the little "tick tick" of a closed hat. Just switching that to a ride cymbal instead opens the whole song up, because we don't have layers and layers of vocal "ooohs" and guitar overdubs and keyboard synths n stuff, like I said, we have 4 dudes. Piano Guitar Bass Drums and Vocals. Making that one small change helps fill in the sound and make it "sway" like it should rather than being all stiff.
Wow man, I knew you were good but this was incredible. You note selection is off the charts on the Bieber song.
I really appreciate that!
Luke Holland, that's all I'm gonna say...
I disagree, I find that the backing track was still mixed to sound more in the front than on the improved track, it was still necessary in context
Whole he is a very good drummer, there are actually still many very good drummers in the world. And they are missed in the laptop age, sorely. Proper don't realize how much they're actually missing on every single level of music, hiding behind building layer Dynamics and musical interest truth samples, auto-tune and quantization. Not to mention the cookie cutter song structure and lack of artistic voice in song writing.
10:45 stick flip just matches perfectly to the songs sample Makes you hear the trick 😂 loved it
This is awesome. The big difference between recordings and live shows is that the listener controls the volume knob on a recording. This means you can't guarantee that they'll be belting it out on good speakers and be wanting it to be big and loud. If you put these parts on the originals, it might grate against the ear when people are looking for soft background music. Or just add noise to the recording when it's played at low volume. But when you're cranking it out at a gig and everyone is going crazy, this is perfect. Not saying that this type of drumming never works on recordings either, just that there is a better case for playing something bigger and more involved. And this isn't even touching on his point about how not all the parts will be played live so each player needs to step up to fill the gaps.
I agree. We can't judge studio recordings by what we think sounds better when actively listening for drums in a recording where the drums are the loudest sound. I think this video sounds dope but there are reasons beyond laziness why they use sequenced drums
Dude, I don't listen to pop songs since I'm more into music with more musicianship. Have to say, you made these songs sound so much better...by adding actual musicianship to the drumming in these tracks. Awesome.
I’m no expert like you, but I have recognized the difference in the drumming between pop songs and rock songs
It all makes sense now, knowing that those beats are digitally recorded instead of the ambiance of a real drummer
Takeaway was best for me. Love how you keep the feel and leave air in the grooves. The least effective for me was the Billie song. Her sound is all about SUPER spare arrangements: mushy bass and snaps + her moaning voice. The busy (more energetic) drumming killed the vibe. All that being said - you are a freaking beast of a player. Enjoyed and inspired!
This is a very intellectual and realistic review. May God bless you more, and your amazing gift! 🙏
I appreciate that!
@@DrumBeatsOnline Been watching most of your vids and I learned so much from them though I'm not really a pro or an amateur drummer. Continue sharing your intelligence in the field of music, more power! 😊
Another awesome video. Always great to see an amazing teacher as well. Make sure you all get on the list for the DBO ACADEMY. if you want to have an awesome time drumming, having fun, and with a killer teacher. Gabe is then man.
I feel the first two were good originally. But the rest was better your way for sure.
I think every song benefited except Beiber
this is such an amazing video man, ive been drumming all my life and the way you talk about drums and their role in music as a whole and explain what you're adding to these versions is really REALLY good. Subscribed, keep making content that is this good and you deserve 1m+ subscribers!
hell yh dude this drumming makes the songs slap af 🥵🔥
Haha thank you!
I love how you weren’t trying to steal the show, just adding something more interesting. Amazing!
From a teaching perspective , the way you present your ideas including your “slides” is pretty great man. The actual musicianship speaks for itself
I came here exactly on 69 views.....NOICE
😂😂 that's a win for sure
Smort
You *came* here? 😏 noice.
@@pfunnk14 🤯
@@pfunnk14 LMAO
I see what you’re going for, however I think that in some of the cases adding too many extra fills detracts from everything else that’s going on so you cannot hear the interplay of the other musical elements. I agree, you can add more dynamics to pop songs when played live, however adding the fills fundamentally changes the groove. IE busier isn’t necessarily more dynamic.
I think more subtle changes would have a greater effect without fundamentally changing the groove and flow of the song. I think you’re a fantastic drummer, and I am enjoying your playing I just have a difference of opinion.
Read the tittle of the video again
Agreed, especially in the case of Bad Guy, the minimalism of that beat is integral to the song.
@@jokeis8684 swoosh
That is part of the mixing. In this video you are hearing the drums super imposed over the song. In a studio recording they would be mixed more into the background and not be overlaping everything else. Everything else would also be much louder and more in the front.
@@jxthursday No its not lol. Its literally the same 2 loops played throughout the entire song. No thought process was made any deeper than that.
What I love about your drumming is that you manage to improve the song without overplaying. Great job, great video! 🔥
"Overplaying" - Something Coop3rdrumme3r is a master of. If only he'd see your video. Spot-on feel & sound, Gabe!
Sounds great. Pop drummers are always so good, and seeing what you do\id explains why the drums always sound so much better live than on tracks.
I really liked how you walked us through your thought process when adding dynamics to the songs! This was rlly helpful
I had no idea the drums on "Come and GO" were so sick to start, but your live version is really really good.
I'm thinking somewhere in between both performances is the sweet spot
His chorus still needed more snare rolls though
IMO each song was made more musical by the addition of the "rock" drums. Dynamics, ghost notes, extra ride, and hi-hat embellishments, really take it to the next level. Thank you for sharing this. I'm a Meinl player as well, what is the cymbal that you're crash/riding on at about 7:40 in the video? Many thanks.
6:53 that was the best build up
For takeaway, it's interesting to see how mattmacguire plays it in the live video. He's also does an incredible job at adding more feel and ambiance.
I love Matt Mcguire's creative approach to the songs he covers. As a drummer myself, I'm subscribed to a lot of drum channels; his is one of my favorites. My personal genres of choice are thrash and death metal, but what Matt does would definitely be next on that list 🤘
I actually like pop songs, but not the drums. Your video captured the PERFECT prospective of how I feel- all artists should add these drums to pop songs!
Good video! This touches on what I generally find with software instruments: they sound OK in a pure electronic mix, on headphones. Say in a practise room, or small gig, the software synths disappears. It’s to do with audio transients and software synths tend to have weak ones. I suspect it’s due to how digital audio expresses max signal levels vs analogue and acoustic instruments. Drums have loads of transients and is great to add energy and dynamics to a track.
In short: add dynamics and make the choruses more energetic without overplaying - love the concept! Definitely loved this vid and will take this into account with my covers going forward! It's definitely a fine line that's hard to balance!
THAT WAS AWESOME! 🔥 Tbh I didn’t expect much, but holy cow was I amazed with every single song :D
So glad you dug it!!
i really appreciate Gabe's advice on everything, i'm so happy that he is doing great!, he seems so humble and really nice :)
I could never listen to pop songs by itself I always watch/download a drum cover of said song by a good drummer
It’s so cool to see this cuz I kinda just do it in my head when I hear any of these
And then never able to actually play what you thought of in your head😂
It worked the best with "come & go", that song really benefits from your addings. The first two songs got slightly less annoying but it was more like adding more sugar to a terrible tasting cake to make it consumable. The dynamic take on Bad Guy was really great - that would be a great way to perform it live with those drums. And I already liked the studio version.
When you played as recorded it looked like you struggled to groove out hahah!
Crazy what a difference a good drummer makes!!! Wasnt expecting this...
the chainmokers live drummer """matt mcguire""" is the one of most talented people in thw world you should check it out his channel he is such a perfect guy
yeah h is kinda good.. not the best but he play good
The difference between the live drummer being bored with Bad Guy’s percussion and Seth Everman running around his house playing the percussion on his Xbox is so so funny
Instead of rock just add CHOPPSSS to everything 😂😂😂
Hey, i rarely comment on things but your drum sound/tuning is the best i’ve heard on youtube 💯🔥
I gotta say you got them skills as far as playing, but the parts you added weren’t written around the song you were playing. You just overplayed without hitting accents where they should be if you were truly making these songs better. Again good playing but there’s a huge difference in overplaying and adding parts that truly accent and embellish the song.
Also keep in mind, the only people paying attention to the drums when they listen to these songs, are usually non existent or are drummers themselves. This is something I’ve had to learn over the years of writing and being a drummer myself. Just cause it sounded good and was on time etc doesn’t mean it was actually good for the song.
Also just a fun fact, the older heads in my life have complimented me more on what I wasn’t playing, rather than what I was playing. The less the better, and when you do something flashy or more complex it has more impact and ear grabbing as you aren’t over doing it.
In general all the songs improved tremendously form adding some "live" drumming to the songs. As a drummer myself (specializing in CCM) where majority of my drumming involves a lot of rocking out, I find that most of today's POP lacks true "soul" to the core of the music. Computer generated beats do have a place in music but they cannot replace the feel that a real drummer can bring to a song. Well done mate!!
As a pop hater (excluding oldies pop and 70s - 90s pop), I am genuinely impressed!
You should definitely check out Matt Mcguire. He covers a lot of pop songs, and he is an absolutely madman. As a drummer mostly into thrash and death metal, I never thought I would be interested in pop covers. Matt Mcguire changed that notion the first time I saw him play 🤘
There's a lot of great pop music out there. Billie Eilish is really fresh and exciting, Mitski uses some really unusual chord sequences while still being catchy. James Blake and Frank Ocean have put out some sonically interesting music and write beautiful melodies, Silk Sonic (and both Bruno and Anderson are great individually). You just need to remember that the focus of pop music has changed over the years, as it always has. Rhythm, Production and Texture are more of a focus than they were previously, but there's still a lot of fundamentally great songs out there.
Gabe, your body language playing the original track cracks me up. You look so bored playing it. You rock dude!
Now make them Metal :D
I think I see a new series coming up...
Bad Guy sounded KILLER with some rock thrown in. Definitely the most improved!!
I think that Takaway benefitted the most.
Come and Go also, but adding more drums on Takaway really made the song sound more lively.
As a songwriter who is trying my hand at producing my music this was super super helpful!! I grew up on classic rock but love the limitless possibilities digital producing gives you and have always wanted to merge the two in my own music. My weakness in producing is drums and you gave me so much to think about, I can’t thank you enough!!
Happy to help!
I absolutely love how you didn't just go all out with aggressive drums, and instead properly analysed the songs and made smart changes. Not what I expected when clicking on the vid and I am pleasantly surprised 🤟
It's incredible that I had the same ideas while listening to the original drum track
Great example of how to adapt as a drummer when you don't have the same arrangement as the original track! I find myself trying to interpret a lot of synth/e-drum parts when I play pop-worship songs at my church. You've given me some new ideas to try out!
Thanks for sharing your interpretations and perspective on this topic. Love that you provided multiple takes on each song to show all the possibilities there are!
thank god you uploaded this video! Just got a gig playing at a fest where all we're going to do is cover pop songs and I honestly had no idea how I was gonna play any of the songs. Thanks for the tips!
Best way to make a pop song sound good is to turn it off but this way works great to. Sick drum playing my dude.
Seeing the thumbnail, I came here hoping that Bad Guy as one of the songs....wasn't disappointed!! That sounded awesome!!
The best way to really improve a song is by getting the acapella version of it as you get only the singing part of the song so you don't get disturbed by the beat or any instruments and it allows you to change even the rhythm to your licky!
Your additions to "come and go" were sooo dope! I dug that a lot.
My issue with Bad Guy was that it hooks you but it just stays flat the whole song. This would actually help towards the end to have something to build up to. Great job!
THIS is what The Spirit of the Radio was ALL ABOUT!!!
That Billie Ellish rock groove you modified was so cool!
"Bad guy" actually sounds really nice now, great job mate!
The baseline on that juice world song with the rock drums almost has a RUSH vibe to it!
Please make this into a series. This was very entertaining and educating 🙏👏
I do this all the time. I actually did a Dynamite drum cover a year ago and added a lot of different elements and some big fills at the end to make it more fun.
I am turned off by the flatness of most pop/radio friendly songs. Your drums gave them songs so much more life. I enjoyed your drumming.
im really glad that I stumbled upon your channel, Iprevail is a local band for me and as a bass player I really enjoy the connection we have with drummers and you always seem to just have a good time. im here for it
I actually don't think it was best to add cymbals to "takeaway" cuz it jus kinda drowns out the pulling feeling from the melody. I think the move with that one would be to just spice up the groove and pull back when the melody part plays to keep the energy they were originally going for.
That modification to takeaway was incredible, I wish that was how the song sounded to begin with, goosebumps.
I saw Billie Eilish live and there WAS actually a live drummer for Bad Guy. The drummer played something similar to this, but not quite as complex. I really think that adding non-synth instruments (drums, guitar, ETC.) Really makes those song far more likable.
Do have copies of these songs with you playing Rock drumming as they sound bloody brilliant.
Cheers Stuart.
This chorus doesn’t have cymbals so I think if we just add some cymbals it’ll sound a lot better. Proceeds to do a cymbal solo 😂 . it sounded dope so keep it up!
Even tho I'm not a "pop" artist, this makes me wanna have a live drummer for future songs and projects. If only I knew a good one nearby
Takeaway and bad guy really benefitted for sure! Im a hip hop producer and i myself try progress the beat but the human touch for sure is unbeatable!
Brooooo....I know I'm late to this, but this was an instant subscribe for me. I've spent far more time behind the boards than instruments and make ZERO claims to be a drummer, but I own many and like to be proficient enough to mess around. The most fun I've had with any instrument is I used to turn up Taylor Swift really loud and go nuts on the drums. She has some fun tempos and the juxtaposition was blasphemous hilarity. Or hilarious blasphemy....idk.
That said, man, I love your technique and definitely what you did with these pieces. This channel deserves to blow up.
The Interrupters covered 'bad guy' and it's awesome!
oooh, so that's why I'm so drawn to rock music! these became instantly about 50 times more enjoyable for me.
this man right here keeping real music alive
Everyone loves the guitar player when the drummer builds the entire song.
Those hi hats are just so freaking incredible!
As a rocker I feel almost relieved that I didn't know any of these songs. There's no need for me to change that and I'm happy with real rock drums together with real rock 🤘
Haha that's amazing. Rock on my friend!
@@DrumBeatsOnline Yes, your double bass tabata training it is ;-)
Amazing how some changes can make a difference
This made me realize the issue I have with a lot of modern pop songs - they all have that same kinda blah drum rhythm in the background that makes them sound very similar. Adding a human drum from an actual artist gave these songs their own unique life, even if they had similar beats and drops. Nice job!
a class on dynamics 101. for free. I thank you good sir.
If this doesn't make people realize what we're missing these days idk what will. Great examples. I think its time we bring life back to drums.
omg !! that bad guy part is literally what i had in mind soooo satisfying
That stick flip during 'bad guy' original play through, was low key the best part of the video! They all sounded way better after you improved them
Haha thank you!
Man [good] drummers are so intimidatingly awesome
Every song, except Bad Guy, was improved. Great work.
This is awesome. So may people overkill, but yours enhances
He single handedly improved all of em
wow you actually made these songs listenable! bad guy actually sounded great :0