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Facts I realized thus was a prequel when they were heading to July. When I saw what he did with the cube, I remembered the girl who survived the July incident in the original anime and it all clicked immediately
@@MekelKasanova Tbh the manga is better than the 98 anime, I think this version of trigun with reboot has the potential if it goes as hard as the last half of season 1 to be the best version of trigun ever. I like the og anime too
I do think 98 adapts the early manga chapters much better, right down to the spaghetti western tone, art design,, and especially Vash’s character. In the manga, he hid the pain through humor and we watch him break over time. Music in 98 is also superior. That said, Stampede is turning out to be an amazing adaptation of Trigun Maximum for sure. Looking forward to seeing where it goes!
I watched this more than the original. I watched the original through to the first time vash does vash stuff I never even got to knives. This show hooked me
Yea this show was so well done that they perfectly hooked me in from start to finish and most of all made me feel for Knives in a way the old show never did and even the manga failed to fully do
Trigun Stampede captured the manga better than the first Trigun. We understand the battling ideologies between Knives and Vash and Knives makes much more sense than in the first Trigun. The sound track was so moving and the voice acting was compelling. It was amazing.
In 98 Trigun it's established that Knives resents humanity for leaching off of the Plants, especially since the humans also f'd up earth just to go off looking for another planet to drain. The violent and hateful nature of humanity also disgusts Knives, with his abuse at the hands of certain crew members merely reinforcing his distaste towards humans. He wants to 'kill the spider's, to save the butterflies'. Vash judges humanity at it's best. Knives judges humanity at it's worst. The 98 anime may not spend too much time on all of this, nor dive real deep into it, but I do find it strange that people keep talking like none of this was in the original series. That's my thoughts anyhow...
This season made me love knives, knives was right about humans, 150 years and humans still abusing and killing plants. He really wanted to create a paradise for Vash and the plants that is true bro love there.
The thing is, Knives' isn't doing it just for the mentality of "Humans are bastards"- because Knives subjects Plants to cruel treatment humans did, it's just that it's because he's using them for his own gain that it's fine. Like, yeah, humans are bastards in Knives' eyes, but his definition of Paradise is a place with no humans, and where "everyone follows my will and nobody questions my commands".
I love the fact that Trigun Stampede is a somewhat of a prequel of Trigun/Trigun Maximum. And we get affirmation that we will get to the end of Trigun Maximum after that. But I wish the entrance of Livio the Double Fang was kept the same. I also actually am satisfied and happy with the ending of Trigun Maximum manga.
They called Season 2 not season 2 but "Final Phase", which still can be divided into multiple seasons or can be still 1 season but more episodes in it(maybe 24) than season 1
THANK YOU! This video was very much needed as someone who got into Stampede first! I’m upset that people won’t give it a chance because they failed to see that this was simply to set up the events of trimax and not just a carbon copy of ‘98. Also you should probably put a spoiler alert for people who want to read trimax somewhere early in the video! ^^; (I’ve read it fortunately!)
I think preferring the goofiness and style of the 98 anime is fine n' dandy n' all that if it weren't for the fact most of the og fans who can't get into Stampede can't tell the difference between critique and personal preferences. I enjoyed the og anime but I didn't think highly of it esp after reading Trimax. For me, the dynamic between Vash and Wolfwood (and their adventures sharing one brain cell between them lol) as they headed towards that deciding battle with Knives all 3 of which carrying different ideals on the purpose of taking another's life is what carried the Trigun story in the manga so the og anime watering that down felt a bit underwhelming (but in a way understandable considering Trimax was like only 20smth chapters in lmao). OG was still a fun watch but stampede just taking the manga and cooking with it has me way more invested and Nightow seems super stoked about this adaption too which has me even more pumped for what's to come. I've enjoyed Meryl in stampede so it gives me hope for Milly and their dynamic for season 2. There's so many possibilities here for where they're going with the material and I'm all for it. LEt studio orange cook!!!!
As much as I'll always treasure the 98 anime, Trigun Stampede is phenomenal! I read Maximum as well and I'm so happy to see Trigun Stampede incorporating so heavily from the manga. I am NOT ready for that damn couch tho. T_T I'm still hoping perhaps they'll keep Wolfwood alive in this iteration because that boi deserves to have some happiness after the literal hell he's been through but that's just my copium showing since he's my favorite character. XD Regardless, I'm SO stoked to see where this goes and I love your take! So refreshing to see someone else who both loved the original anime and the manga to be so hype for this show too! 🙂
How do you feel about the interpretation of Wolfwood ? I just finished the 98 anime and he was much more of a good guy and a friend to Vash than in stampede where he just seems to hatr him. We didn't see him help people that much either, in the old anime you could understand why he was a priest, while in this new version he has nothing but the label of a churchman.
@lizzy7651 well that’s how Wolfwood is in the manga which this is basing the bulk of its plot from. This is literally a modern take on Trigun and Trigun Maximum instead of the old anime which went a completely different direction
@@MekelKasanova I did not read the manga so I didn't know. I am probably going to read it because the end of the 98 anime seemed a little rushed and not very realistic. I was introduced to trigun with stampede and now I can't get enough. It made me feel a way I did not feel in a long time.
@@lizzy7651 ah ok. Yeah the manga has an entirely different ending and tons of characters that the 98 anime didn’t include because the manga was cancelled during its production and only started back up in 2000 as Trigun Maximum. It ran until 2010 and the stakes are far far higher compared to the old anime. The way Wolfwood is here in Stampede is exactly how he was in the manga as he is more antagonistic until a point.
trigun stampede finally got me to get around to watch the original 98 anime. i was so impressed by the first episode, and seeing people bash it because it wasnt the 98 anime made me do an unbiased comparison. i really like the 98 anime, but hoo boy is it extremely dated. it was definitely a product of its time from the designs, jokes, and pacing. ive seen a lot of younger people say that the 98 trigun was really boring, and i can see where theyre coming from. stampede was made for the newer generation with all the modernized design. another thing i found crazy was people constantly echoing that roberto replaced milly or that she was axed from the show when the creators have never made any such statements. people really just couldnt wait and give it a chance. but im glad a lot of stampede doubters have come around since the finale of the show.
I know what you mean about being unsatisfied by an open ending, so I hope to see as many original elements as TriMax elements. For example, I predict Roberto's influence will still be felt because he was actually Milly's father. This brings more depth to her backstory that was often the source of jokes, a personal beef with the gung-ho guns, and her and Meryl a stepping stone into their sister-like friendship.
Trigun Stampede is what got me into watching the original anime and am currently also reading the manga which are really great. Stampede in itself is also a really fantastic show, but so many people just shit on it for no reason.
I saw the original Trigun roughly seven years ago and liked it enough to add it to my anime collection, but it always felt a little lacking to me in its ending and how it handled Knives. I have never read the manga. I wasn't sure about the animation style being CG. But on a whim I tried out the first episode of Stampede and liked it enough to add it to the anime I wanted to see soon list. This past week I watched the rest of Stampede and was absolutely captivated by the story and the emotional weight Vash ends up carrying throughout. The world and motivations of Vash and Knives felt more fleshed out, I enjoyed Roberto to the point that his death nearly brought me to tears, and I didn't mind the darker tone overall. There were still bits of comedy here and there where it was appropriate, mainly between Meryl and Roberto, which made his death hit harder because of the playful dynamic they had. And Wolfwood having a different backstory from the 98 anime worked in his favor for me because it's just way more interesting. And the animation style chosen works perfectly for this adaptation. It took some getting used to, but by episode three I barely even noticed it was all CG anymore. I do have some level of nostalgia for the 98 version as I saw it during my college years. It's a really good show for its time and I understand the love for it, but Trigun Stampede is just on another level to me. The world-building feels more in-depth, and though it's hard to watch because of how much it hurts Vash, the way people react to him and label him as a monster makes more sense and is shown so effectively within the first three episodes. We watch a town go from liking the guy, to trying to sell him out, to liking him again, and then Knives shows up, destroys everything, and the people in that town pretty much despise Vash by association, blaming him for his brother's actions which reinforces the blame he already places on his own shoulders. I would definitely hope more people will give it a chance. It really could become the best Trigun adaptation moving forward. :) In my mind it already has.
Just as the reboot of Battlestar Galactica is the same story but from a different point of view and updated technology Trigun is only getting better. Anime Trigun really excelled slow cooking the identity of Vash from the viewpoint of Millie and Meryl then revealing Knives and Project Seeds towards the end. The whole Plants background was murky at best with the anime. Stampede jumps right into Seeds and Knives and slowly reveals why things are different because Millie hasn't been replaced, she's just not there yet, Vash's bounty is only $$6 million because this is before July is destroyed. I enjoyed the realization that this was a prequel-esque series that just happen to bring characters like the Nebraska family in early and differently. At the end of season 1, not only am I ready for season 2 but I really wanted to go back and re-watch the anime understanding the pivotal role of July adding to the guilt of them being stranded on Planet Gunsmoke in the first place. Mekal was right that both shows are centered around Vash really not knowing how to follow the teachings of Rem AND find redemption while the descendants of Project Seeds are trying to kill him.
Facts I realized thus was a prequel when they were heading to July. When I saw what he did with the cube, I remembered the girl who survived the July incident in the original anime and it all clicked immediately
i watched stampede after having never seen any of the 98 anime, but it was so good that it made me go and read trigun maximum. i've been taking my time with it, mostly because the pacing is insane and it's super dark, but i'm absolutely loving it. it makes me wish i had gotten into the series way sooner.
Yea the manga can be very very hard to follow at times but it's insanely good and I'm glad this show is for the most part. While I still do enjoy the 98 anime, it just doesn't hit the way Maximum or even this one does
I watched it and I finished it in one day, but I still can’t understand the ending of when knives said that he’s already dead or did I miss hear? Can somebody explain the ending?
Exactly my thoughts on the number of seasnos!! I'm terified that they might release only one other season and that IMO canot be sufficient to cover the content of the manga. I would be soo happy if there were more episodes!
Bro, the dudes that reviewed the entire season a few weeks early look so fucking stupid rn after episode 12, like not one of them posted a new review out
You're right! I've seen content of this since episode 12 to see if some of those people can now admire for themselves that a lot of what they were complaining about the show, was wrong and the show will have it anyways, but no. I think they just don't gave it a chance really and by that lost all the excitement that Trigun Stampede was always preparing for the "old fans" and the new people who discovered this amazing series. Truly sad for them.
Heya, loved the video! You definitely are on the same frame of mind I have regarding so much. About stampede. It’s truely a shame more people haven’t given it a chance. The reason I’ve taken the time to comment, if they plan on adapting the majority of the story, there’s a so no way there gonna fit in just another 12 episodes lol there’s just way too much the pacing would ruin it pr they would have to slip a whole lot. The hunch I have ? With the way orange worded it on their Twitter and how in previous interviews( of translations weren’t botched )nightow said something along time lines of this trigun was planned for longer, I think ‘stampede’ the prologue/prequel is done, and the untitled anime they been working on while doing stampede is the next phase of trigun , that will be multiple seasons. I’d love 4 seasons, we can hope, but I can see it running for another 24 easily! Id personally love to see vash have a few episodes like the first half of the 98 anime because for all vash knows, knives is ‘dead’ and maybe now he can find some time to chillax and fight some of those low caliber villians before going down the hung ho gun route. But overall , shows great, your review is great, thanks again and stay awesome dude.
Thank you so much for this - we need youtubers like you putting forward positive reviews - episode 12 was one of the best episodes of anime I have seen in ages! - I am SO impressed with this show - I hate how some OG fans wrote it off and hate reviewed it for it not being the original without even giving it a chance - the stronger the positive voice for this adaptation we can get the better!
Umm can you tell me how Legato got his Powers?? In 98 anime they said he got his Powers from Vash's arm (which is bs coz vash never used psychic powers) and in Stampede Vash's arm got sucked into the gate so no one havr that arm now.
In the manga he got his powers from weaving metal threads into his brain ontop of already having a form of clairvoyance to the supernatural. He also doesn’t have Vash’s arm in the manga as that’s an OG anime only thing. The OG really only stays faithful for the first half of the show and then goes in it’s own original direction
The only people i know who has problems with Stampede is those with little duck syndrome. Outside of compair with original Trigan it was always "Alright" or even "good".
Yes indeed! While this is its own version and not related to the old show, it does adapt the bulk of the manga in a modern retelling and doesn’t require you to have read the manga or watched the old show and to me is the better show between the original 98 anime and this one
If you are trying to rate it by how well it adapts the manga, then sure, it is great, i guess. If you were trying to rate it by how good it is as a show... It is far worse than old anime. It has a lot of motives and backstories, sure. But those motives are sometimes just full of utter bullshit. At least in the old anime I didn't have to scream in my head "How the fuck did you come up with such conclusion, you fucking idiot?!!" Knives, Wash, doctor, girl, priest, villains, humans, bugs, everyone has at least one idiotic moment. The more philosophical they act, the worse it is. The world itself seems to forget about events that just happen, big things undo themselves the next moment, and in the end, despite the adventure, the protagonist learns nothing and still the same. Does anyone remember the blue shoulder-spiked guy? Because he silently disappeared before the ending. The big move that defeated the bad guy is... After having his entire worldview and ideology destroyed, and being brainwashed, Wash "somehow" wakes up and says "no!" to big bad after hearing the voice of a recent friend? The giant roots that spread all over the city and surrounding dessert just "go back" and the city is completely unharmed? Wash tries to go to space to release the energy, and shoots it up? Couldn't he just shoot it up from the ground? And then he lands and explodes the entire city, and everyone dies. Except for those who matter, which is girl, priest maybe, and Wash himself. Somehow. All the plants Knives collected? Fucking dead, hundreds of them. By the way, red plants were actually completely unused in the end. They never said why he collected them! And all the people in the city die too. Also, what the hell is going on with Knives' ideology? Plants suffer, but have no soul? If they have a soul they can live outside a water tank? (And not because they have no lungs or whatever) And his plan is to use the dimensional gate as a window to forcibly impregnate (say r¢pe, really) all the plants in the world to give birth to those like himself? Also, just the amount of energy he was using to open the gate would be enough to cover the entire planet with normal plants or resources, making using plants unnecessary, solving the entire problem, in theory. And giving the doctor an incurable disease just drops him from a desperate scientist who tries to save humanity, as he claims, to a desperate bastard who is going to die, so he tries to pull all the people with him, but doesn't dare to try out his own cure on himself. Also, he thought that mounting a gun on a guy and aging him up will somehow make him not have a need for food. And also, he knew that Knives was going to kill all humans in the end anyway, so what all the arc about him trying to save them was about? All the experiments, for what? Ugh, the idiocy is endless, but time is limited. If this is what the manga was about, I'd rather watch the old anime.
tbh i've never watched the og trigun anime, nor have i read the manga before, but i really liked trigun stampede. the cgi animation and soundtrack were amazing, the story interesting and i think knives' character was really well made as a villain. his motivation was believable and somewhat justified (he killed a lot of people, and i don't try to justify that by any means, yet i feel like i understand why he did what he did). later i decided to watch the 90s version and i was somewhat disappointed, because it lacked the dark side of stampede. idk, maybe it was a little too goofy for me 😅 sure, stampede has some flaws, but i'm really anticipating 2nd season. anyway, great video!
I’m not sure about how I feel about this season. There are a lot of bad and good things. The Animation is insane the characters are cools the topics adressed are really interesting Knives is great but on the other hand some episodes were just a waste of time, I just can’t comprehend Vash he has no reason to help humans. If it was just to stop Knives because he doesn’t tolerate killing I’d understand but he just love humans while they always has been worst being who destroys everything. I feel like Vash philosophy is just incompatible with who he is . He always has been hunted while on the opposite Knives is just absolutely coherent. Also Vash is absolutely unable to find one good thing about humans with his conflict with Knives which make him so illogical. So I feel like the show is good but thanks to Knives and the villains because Vash this season has been really annoying to me
Lol this was how Vash was in the manga and that’s how they are portraying him here. Wolfwood is the catalyst and balance to his philosophy and he doesn’t change until a certain something happens. Vash is stuck on Rems ideals and his own severe guilt over the fall, knives actions, and his own immortality
... aren't Meryl, Roberto and Wolfwood excellent examples of reasons to care about humans? It's incredibly easy to love people even if shit is wrong, because people encompass everything you can think of - good and bad. I find Vash's steadfast resolution to love humanity to be admirable. After all, I love people too.
@@mixtysix8541 3 people out of millions is not enough to believe in a whole race. Let’s just be logical 2sec. When you’re born you’re locked in a space when we tell you don’t have the rights to go anywhere you can’t choose anything you’ll just die serving humans. You see many of your brothers and sisters dying in agony all your dreams and hopes are just shit for the humans. You see your brother turning crazy because of this situation. And you decide to go on the side of the humans despite they’ll keep killing all of your brothers and trying to kill you. Vash CAN’T be on the side of the human for a whole century while letting all his people dying. That’s the problem with him. If this dude is so empathic why he feel nothing for the other plants ? He’s the worst hypocrite ever. There is no reason for a plant to be on the side of the humans they have to kill you for they own sake. If they wanted Vash to be on the human side they should have make him grow up in a good human family with a real environment like a whole village or a city that don’t use Plants to show him that alternative exists. Sorry for the salt this character is really upsetting 😅
Vash has plenty of reason to help humans. The ones who have shown him the most compassion in his entire life have been humans. Rem, who mothered him and instilled in him the virtues and hopes he carries on; Luida, who reinforced those virtues while raising him out of his hole of suicidal ideation; Meryl, whose plucky journalistic tendencies led her to empathize with Vash and ultimately help break him out of the vegetative state (pun not intended) that Knives forcibly put him under. Even folks like Brad and Wolfwood at least come to respect and care for him, and even hypocritically adopting facets of his worldview and growing as a result: Brad learning to trust across species lines, and Wolfwood understanding through Livio's near-recovery that saving people with no strings attached is possible. Vash knows the truth better than anyone that everyone has the capacity for good, and that everyone has the capacity to change for the better; rather, it's the circumstances of one's systems and environment that forces things like exploitation and the desire for revenge. And it's not just sheer naivete either; the show writers clearly display that Vash's philosophy actually works in the first two episodes when people just sit back and take a chance to resolve their situations peacefully or remember the humanity in one another. After the goofy shenanigans are all said and done, the Jeneora Rock gang and the Nebraska family are all communing together in the bar with the town's plant safe, sound, and healthy. It's only when Knives shows up to enact genocide that things go horribly wrong. Vash's struggles with himans lie in misunderstandings that are more often than not sorted out when people actually get to know him, or from environmental circumstances that may force a betrayal that otherwise wouldn't happen. But none of this is an indictment on humanity as a whole (after all; they're not the ones who crashed the ships on a desert planet), which is why Vash cannot hold a grudge. Meanwhile, it is the only Independent Plant in his life- Knives- who simultaneously sees Vash for who he truly is and yet actively refuses to accept him. At every single turn, Knives is berating him as useless, undercutting his feelings, deriding him as a "human lover" or a "pet," gaslighting him that his capacity for love is actually a sickness or a desperate attempt at atonement for something he didn't even do. Knives loves Vash only to the degree that they are related by blood. But he is an abusive narcissist who is ready and willing to strip away the thing that makes Vash who he is- his heart- which is far worse than what any human can do to him, and it's why he declares he's okay with being on the run. It's also why it's so important at the end that Vash declares himself as "Vash the Stampede" to his brother's face: he has accepted his moniker from the humans, his place among society, and that there is always a brighter future. Vash isn't annoying. He's a very beautifully written character. Take him to Krispy Kreme ASAP and give him all the donuts.
I like the OG series more. The music (the guitar with the sliding glass), the humor, and the pacing was better. I liked how clean the art was in this one, and how it focused more on Knives
It was to my understanding that in Trigun 98, Vash and Knives's guns weren't the SOURCE of the angel-arms power, so much as amps or conduits through which they channeled their Plant power into an energy beam.
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Season 1 is the definition of “Let them Cook”
Forreal it legit was a Let them Cook season
Exactly
100%
Facts I realized thus was a prequel when they were heading to July. When I saw what he did with the cube, I remembered the girl who survived the July incident in the original anime and it all clicked immediately
I honestly loved Stanpede and as a manga reader I'm really hyped for what they adapt from the manga.
This might become the best version of Trigun
They’ve done such an amazing job with this show. Adapting the manga aspects into this with a fresh coat of paint is just perfection
Millions Knives soundtrack was godly as well specially when it played on THAT scene
Big big facts!
I honestly Think Stampede was better in 98. and i will defend this adaptation because its one of my favorite anime this season.
Same! This show was superb and honestly I struggle to go back to the old show for anything more than childhood nostalgia
@@MekelKasanova Tbh the manga is better than the 98 anime, I think this version of trigun with reboot has the potential if it goes as hard as the last half of season 1 to be the best version of trigun ever. I like the og anime too
I do think 98 adapts the early manga chapters much better, right down to the spaghetti western tone, art design,, and especially Vash’s character. In the manga, he hid the pain through humor and we watch him break over time. Music in 98 is also superior.
That said, Stampede is turning out to be an amazing adaptation of Trigun Maximum for sure. Looking forward to seeing where it goes!
I watched this more than the original. I watched the original through to the first time vash does vash stuff I never even got to knives. This show hooked me
Yea this show was so well done that they perfectly hooked me in from start to finish and most of all made me feel for Knives in a way the old show never did and even the manga failed to fully do
Trigun Stampede captured the manga better than the first Trigun. We understand the battling ideologies between Knives and Vash and Knives makes much more sense than in the first Trigun. The sound track was so moving and the voice acting was compelling. It was amazing.
In 98 Trigun it's established that Knives resents humanity for leaching off of the Plants, especially since the humans also f'd up earth just to go off looking for another planet to drain. The violent and hateful nature of humanity also disgusts Knives, with his abuse at the hands of certain crew members merely reinforcing his distaste towards humans. He wants to 'kill the spider's, to save the butterflies'.
Vash judges humanity at it's best.
Knives judges humanity at it's worst.
The 98 anime may not spend too much time on all of this, nor dive real deep into it, but I do find it strange that people keep talking like none of this was in the original series.
That's my thoughts anyhow...
This season made me love knives, knives was right about humans, 150 years and humans still abusing and killing plants. He really wanted to create a paradise for Vash and the plants that is true bro love there.
funnily enough, it wasn’t humans that stuck Vash in the plant tube :^]
@@mixtysix8541 i bet if Knives didnt exist they would have done that to Vash lol
The thing is, Knives' isn't doing it just for the mentality of "Humans are bastards"- because Knives subjects Plants to cruel treatment humans did, it's just that it's because he's using them for his own gain that it's fine. Like, yeah, humans are bastards in Knives' eyes, but his definition of Paradise is a place with no humans, and where "everyone follows my will and nobody questions my commands".
Seems like he saved all those red plants from dying, none of the plants have are dead, giving plants the same freedom that he has is far from cruel.
@@xic777 Waaaait till season two/three.
Or read Trigun Maximum.
I love the fact that Trigun Stampede is a somewhat of a prequel of Trigun/Trigun Maximum. And we get affirmation that we will get to the end of Trigun Maximum after that. But I wish the entrance of Livio the Double Fang was kept the same. I also actually am satisfied and happy with the ending of Trigun Maximum manga.
this show is so "trust the process" and i love it
They called Season 2 not season 2 but "Final Phase", which still can be divided into multiple seasons or can be still 1 season but more episodes in it(maybe 24) than season 1
"Final Phase" loses all its meaning thanks to SnK
Final fantasy 16 :D
THANK YOU! This video was very much needed as someone who got into Stampede first! I’m upset that people won’t give it a chance because they failed to see that this was simply to set up the events of trimax and not just a carbon copy of ‘98. Also you should probably put a spoiler alert for people who want to read trimax somewhere early in the video! ^^; (I’ve read it fortunately!)
I think preferring the goofiness and style of the 98 anime is fine n' dandy n' all that if it weren't for the fact most of the og fans who can't get into Stampede can't tell the difference between critique and personal preferences. I enjoyed the og anime but I didn't think highly of it esp after reading Trimax. For me, the dynamic between Vash and Wolfwood (and their adventures sharing one brain cell between them lol) as they headed towards that deciding battle with Knives all 3 of which carrying different ideals on the purpose of taking another's life is what carried the Trigun story in the manga so the og anime watering that down felt a bit underwhelming (but in a way understandable considering Trimax was like only 20smth chapters in lmao). OG was still a fun watch but stampede just taking the manga and cooking with it has me way more invested and Nightow seems super stoked about this adaption too which has me even more pumped for what's to come. I've enjoyed Meryl in stampede so it gives me hope for Milly and their dynamic for season 2. There's so many possibilities here for where they're going with the material and I'm all for it. LEt studio orange cook!!!!
As much as I'll always treasure the 98 anime, Trigun Stampede is phenomenal! I read Maximum as well and I'm so happy to see Trigun Stampede incorporating so heavily from the manga. I am NOT ready for that damn couch tho. T_T I'm still hoping perhaps they'll keep Wolfwood alive in this iteration because that boi deserves to have some happiness after the literal hell he's been through but that's just my copium showing since he's my favorite character. XD Regardless, I'm SO stoked to see where this goes and I love your take! So refreshing to see someone else who both loved the original anime and the manga to be so hype for this show too! 🙂
How do you feel about the interpretation of Wolfwood ? I just finished the 98 anime and he was much more of a good guy and a friend to Vash than in stampede where he just seems to hatr him. We didn't see him help people that much either, in the old anime you could understand why he was a priest, while in this new version he has nothing but the label of a churchman.
@lizzy7651 well that’s how Wolfwood is in the manga which this is basing the bulk of its plot from. This is literally a modern take on Trigun and Trigun Maximum instead of the old anime which went a completely different direction
@@MekelKasanova I did not read the manga so I didn't know. I am probably going to read it because the end of the 98 anime seemed a little rushed and not very realistic. I was introduced to trigun with stampede and now I can't get enough. It made me feel a way I did not feel in a long time.
@@lizzy7651 ah ok. Yeah the manga has an entirely different ending and tons of characters that the 98 anime didn’t include because the manga was cancelled during its production and only started back up in 2000 as Trigun Maximum. It ran until 2010 and the stakes are far far higher compared to the old anime. The way Wolfwood is here in Stampede is exactly how he was in the manga as he is more antagonistic until a point.
trigun stampede finally got me to get around to watch the original 98 anime. i was so impressed by the first episode, and seeing people bash it because it wasnt the 98 anime made me do an unbiased comparison. i really like the 98 anime, but hoo boy is it extremely dated. it was definitely a product of its time from the designs, jokes, and pacing. ive seen a lot of younger people say that the 98 trigun was really boring, and i can see where theyre coming from. stampede was made for the newer generation with all the modernized design. another thing i found crazy was people constantly echoing that roberto replaced milly or that she was axed from the show when the creators have never made any such statements. people really just couldnt wait and give it a chance. but im glad a lot of stampede doubters have come around since the finale of the show.
I’m over the moon with this show! Love it so much!! I want to rock merch for the first time since 2005. Thanks for supporting it!
Absolutely AMAZING first season! I cannot wait until season 2. What a powerful finale. Had myself a good cry in those final scenes.
As a 98 anime only, I loved the new take on Trigun and I am so hungry for more
I know what you mean about being unsatisfied by an open ending, so I hope to see as many original elements as TriMax elements. For example, I predict Roberto's influence will still be felt because he was actually Milly's father. This brings more depth to her backstory that was often the source of jokes, a personal beef with the gung-ho guns, and her and Meryl a stepping stone into their sister-like friendship.
Trigun Stampede is what got me into watching the original anime and am currently also reading the manga which are really great. Stampede in itself is also a really fantastic show, but so many people just shit on it for no reason.
I really really wish that this series gets more traction, because all that you have done is hyped me up for more.
Vash vs Knives lines are straight up from maximum final fight by used it here Nightow might have something better to put in stamped final fight
FULLY AGREE
According to the newest interview with the production team, I don’t think they’ll make a second season, I think they’re making a movie unfortunately
I saw the original Trigun roughly seven years ago and liked it enough to add it to my anime collection, but it always felt a little lacking to me in its ending and how it handled Knives. I have never read the manga. I wasn't sure about the animation style being CG. But on a whim I tried out the first episode of Stampede and liked it enough to add it to the anime I wanted to see soon list. This past week I watched the rest of Stampede and was absolutely captivated by the story and the emotional weight Vash ends up carrying throughout. The world and motivations of Vash and Knives felt more fleshed out, I enjoyed Roberto to the point that his death nearly brought me to tears, and I didn't mind the darker tone overall. There were still bits of comedy here and there where it was appropriate, mainly between Meryl and Roberto, which made his death hit harder because of the playful dynamic they had. And Wolfwood having a different backstory from the 98 anime worked in his favor for me because it's just way more interesting. And the animation style chosen works perfectly for this adaptation. It took some getting used to, but by episode three I barely even noticed it was all CG anymore. I do have some level of nostalgia for the 98 version as I saw it during my college years. It's a really good show for its time and I understand the love for it, but Trigun Stampede is just on another level to me. The world-building feels more in-depth, and though it's hard to watch because of how much it hurts Vash, the way people react to him and label him as a monster makes more sense and is shown so effectively within the first three episodes. We watch a town go from liking the guy, to trying to sell him out, to liking him again, and then Knives shows up, destroys everything, and the people in that town pretty much despise Vash by association, blaming him for his brother's actions which reinforces the blame he already places on his own shoulders.
I would definitely hope more people will give it a chance. It really could become the best Trigun adaptation moving forward. :) In my mind it already has.
Just as the reboot of Battlestar Galactica is the same story but from a different point of view and updated technology Trigun is only getting better. Anime Trigun really excelled slow cooking the identity of Vash from the viewpoint of Millie and Meryl then revealing Knives and Project Seeds towards the end. The whole Plants background was murky at best with the anime. Stampede jumps right into Seeds and Knives and slowly reveals why things are different because Millie hasn't been replaced, she's just not there yet, Vash's bounty is only $$6 million because this is before July is destroyed. I enjoyed the realization that this was a prequel-esque series that just happen to bring characters like the Nebraska family in early and differently. At the end of season 1, not only am I ready for season 2 but I really wanted to go back and re-watch the anime understanding the pivotal role of July adding to the guilt of them being stranded on Planet Gunsmoke in the first place. Mekal was right that both shows are centered around Vash really not knowing how to follow the teachings of Rem AND find redemption while the descendants of Project Seeds are trying to kill him.
People who blew it off because "no Milly" were probably the most vocal ones and it's like...what is wrong with you lol
so glad to see positive review because this show is getting buried when it deserves so much hype it was the best thing to air last season
I agree with stampee show and it was really good and I have not read or seen the 1998 anime. So this new to me and I wanted more.
If you want a sneak peek at what’s to come then definitely check out Trigun Maximum as Stampede is adapting that in modern way
@Mekel Kasanova ok thanks and I studying animation so me watching ep 1 was fucking aslome
Facts I realized thus was a prequel when they were heading to July. When I saw what he did with the cube, I remembered the girl who survived the July incident in the original anime and it all clicked immediately
Prologue's are normally like an appetizer before your main course. Hopefully, we'll also get a dessert too.
Was a hard fan of old anime. And never had a chance to read any manga but I still fell in love with Stampede.
i watched stampede after having never seen any of the 98 anime, but it was so good that it made me go and read trigun maximum. i've been taking my time with it, mostly because the pacing is insane and it's super dark, but i'm absolutely loving it. it makes me wish i had gotten into the series way sooner.
Yea the manga can be very very hard to follow at times but it's insanely good and I'm glad this show is for the most part. While I still do enjoy the 98 anime, it just doesn't hit the way Maximum or even this one does
I watched it and I finished it in one day, but I still can’t understand the ending of when knives said that he’s already dead or did I miss hear? Can somebody explain the ending?
@@chickennuggets8061 oh thank you:)
Exactly my thoughts on the number of seasnos!! I'm terified that they might release only one other season and that IMO canot be sufficient to cover the content of the manga. I would be soo happy if there were more episodes!
Bro, the dudes that reviewed the entire season a few weeks early look so fucking stupid rn after episode 12, like not one of them posted a new review out
You're right! I've seen content of this since episode 12 to see if some of those people can now admire for themselves that a lot of what they were complaining about the show, was wrong and the show will have it anyways, but no. I think they just don't gave it a chance really and by that lost all the excitement that Trigun Stampede was always preparing for the "old fans" and the new people who discovered this amazing series. Truly sad for them.
they're all can't take off their rose tinted glasses bro. Old = good, New = bad, is what they're lived for
as much as i want Season 2 I WANT land of the lustrous Season 2 first
Season 2 is the last as you saw online it’s twitted “ final phase “
I mean if the anime is like 24 episodes that enough lol
I still want 4 total seasons
Trigun Stampede is GOATed
Can’t wait for the fifth moon incident
Same!
Heya, loved the video! You definitely are on the same frame of mind I have regarding so much. About stampede. It’s truely a shame more people haven’t given it a chance.
The reason I’ve taken the time to comment, if they plan on adapting the majority of the story, there’s a so no way there gonna fit in just another 12 episodes lol there’s just way too much the pacing would ruin it pr they would have to slip a whole lot.
The hunch I have ? With the way orange worded it on their Twitter and how in previous interviews( of translations weren’t botched )nightow said something along time lines of this trigun was planned for longer, I think ‘stampede’ the prologue/prequel is done, and the untitled anime they been working on while doing stampede is the next phase of trigun , that will be multiple seasons. I’d love 4 seasons, we can hope, but I can see it running for another 24 easily!
Id personally love to see vash have a few episodes like the first half of the 98 anime because for all vash knows, knives is ‘dead’ and maybe now he can find some time to chillax and fight some of those low caliber villians before going down the hung ho gun route.
But overall , shows great, your review is great, thanks again and stay awesome dude.
Thank you so much for this - we need youtubers like you putting forward positive reviews - episode 12 was one of the best episodes of anime I have seen in ages! - I am SO impressed with this show - I hate how some OG fans wrote it off and hate reviewed it for it not being the original without even giving it a chance - the stronger the positive voice for this adaptation we can get the better!
Umm can you tell me how Legato got his Powers?? In 98 anime they said he got his Powers from Vash's arm (which is bs coz vash never used psychic powers) and in Stampede Vash's arm got sucked into the gate so no one havr that arm now.
In the manga he got his powers from weaving metal threads into his brain ontop of already having a form of clairvoyance to the supernatural. He also doesn’t have Vash’s arm in the manga as that’s an OG anime only thing. The OG really only stays faithful for the first half of the show and then goes in it’s own original direction
The only people i know who has problems with Stampede is those with little duck syndrome. Outside of compair with original Trigan it was always "Alright" or even "good".
as a manga reader. IM HYPE
Can I watch this without watching the old orig trigun?
Yep!
Yes indeed! While this is its own version and not related to the old show, it does adapt the bulk of the manga in a modern retelling and doesn’t require you to have read the manga or watched the old show and to me is the better show between the original 98 anime and this one
That show can't be better than I think.
Because the think it's awesome! 😍
Appreciate your review
If you are trying to rate it by how well it adapts the manga, then sure, it is great, i guess.
If you were trying to rate it by how good it is as a show... It is far worse than old anime. It has a lot of motives and backstories, sure. But those motives are sometimes just full of utter bullshit.
At least in the old anime I didn't have to scream in my head "How the fuck did you come up with such conclusion, you fucking idiot?!!" Knives, Wash, doctor, girl, priest, villains, humans, bugs, everyone has at least one idiotic moment. The more philosophical they act, the worse it is. The world itself seems to forget about events that just happen, big things undo themselves the next moment, and in the end, despite the adventure, the protagonist learns nothing and still the same. Does anyone remember the blue shoulder-spiked guy? Because he silently disappeared before the ending. The big move that defeated the bad guy is... After having his entire worldview and ideology destroyed, and being brainwashed, Wash "somehow" wakes up and says "no!" to big bad after hearing the voice of a recent friend? The giant roots that spread all over the city and surrounding dessert just "go back" and the city is completely unharmed? Wash tries to go to space to release the energy, and shoots it up? Couldn't he just shoot it up from the ground? And then he lands and explodes the entire city, and everyone dies. Except for those who matter, which is girl, priest maybe, and Wash himself. Somehow. All the plants Knives collected? Fucking dead, hundreds of them. By the way, red plants were actually completely unused in the end. They never said why he collected them! And all the people in the city die too.
Also, what the hell is going on with Knives' ideology? Plants suffer, but have no soul? If they have a soul they can live outside a water tank? (And not because they have no lungs or whatever) And his plan is to use the dimensional gate as a window to forcibly impregnate (say r¢pe, really) all the plants in the world to give birth to those like himself?
Also, just the amount of energy he was using to open the gate would be enough to cover the entire planet with normal plants or resources, making using plants unnecessary, solving the entire problem, in theory.
And giving the doctor an incurable disease just drops him from a desperate scientist who tries to save humanity, as he claims, to a desperate bastard who is going to die, so he tries to pull all the people with him, but doesn't dare to try out his own cure on himself. Also, he thought that mounting a gun on a guy and aging him up will somehow make him not have a need for food. And also, he knew that Knives was going to kill all humans in the end anyway, so what all the arc about him trying to save them was about? All the experiments, for what?
Ugh, the idiocy is endless, but time is limited. If this is what the manga was about, I'd rather watch the old anime.
Trigun Stampede was the best 3D anime of all time.
12 more episodes and a movie would do vash the stampede justice
tbh i've never watched the og trigun anime, nor have i read the manga before, but i really liked trigun stampede. the cgi animation and soundtrack were amazing, the story interesting and i think knives' character was really well made as a villain. his motivation was believable and somewhat justified (he killed a lot of people, and i don't try to justify that by any means, yet i feel like i understand why he did what he did). later i decided to watch the 90s version and i was somewhat disappointed, because it lacked the dark side of stampede. idk, maybe it was a little too goofy for me 😅 sure, stampede has some flaws, but i'm really anticipating 2nd season. anyway, great video!
Sorry but I’m more with the OG trigun anime
Yeah! I wasn’t feeling it. It was okay, but it didn’t hold my attention. I think I really didn’t like the 3D animation. Just wasn’t for me
I’m not sure about how I feel about this season. There are a lot of bad and good things. The Animation is insane the characters are cools the topics adressed are really interesting Knives is great but on the other hand some episodes were just a waste of time, I just can’t comprehend Vash he has no reason to help humans. If it was just to stop Knives because he doesn’t tolerate killing I’d understand but he just love humans while they always has been worst being who destroys everything. I feel like Vash philosophy is just incompatible with who he is . He always has been hunted while on the opposite Knives is just absolutely coherent. Also Vash is absolutely unable to find one good thing about humans with his conflict with Knives which make him so illogical. So I feel like the show is good but thanks to Knives and the villains because Vash this season has been really annoying to me
Lol this was how Vash was in the manga and that’s how they are portraying him here. Wolfwood is the catalyst and balance to his philosophy and he doesn’t change until a certain something happens. Vash is stuck on Rems ideals and his own severe guilt over the fall, knives actions, and his own immortality
... aren't Meryl, Roberto and Wolfwood excellent examples of reasons to care about humans? It's incredibly easy to love people even if shit is wrong, because people encompass everything you can think of - good and bad. I find Vash's steadfast resolution to love humanity to be admirable. After all, I love people too.
All of this
@@mixtysix8541 3 people out of millions is not enough to believe in a whole race.
Let’s just be logical 2sec.
When you’re born you’re locked in a space when we tell you don’t have the rights to go anywhere you can’t choose anything you’ll just die serving humans. You see many of your brothers and sisters dying in agony all your dreams and hopes are just shit for the humans. You see your brother turning crazy because of this situation. And you decide to go on the side of the humans despite they’ll keep killing all of your brothers and trying to kill you.
Vash CAN’T be on the side of the human for a whole century while letting all his people dying. That’s the problem with him. If this dude is so empathic why he feel nothing for the other plants ? He’s the worst hypocrite ever. There is no reason for a plant to be on the side of the humans they have to kill you for they own sake. If they wanted Vash to be on the human side they should have make him grow up in a good human family with a real environment like a whole village or a city that don’t use Plants to show him that alternative exists.
Sorry for the salt this character is really upsetting 😅
Vash has plenty of reason to help humans. The ones who have shown him the most compassion in his entire life have been humans. Rem, who mothered him and instilled in him the virtues and hopes he carries on; Luida, who reinforced those virtues while raising him out of his hole of suicidal ideation; Meryl, whose plucky journalistic tendencies led her to empathize with Vash and ultimately help break him out of the vegetative state (pun not intended) that Knives forcibly put him under. Even folks like Brad and Wolfwood at least come to respect and care for him, and even hypocritically adopting facets of his worldview and growing as a result: Brad learning to trust across species lines, and Wolfwood understanding through Livio's near-recovery that saving people with no strings attached is possible.
Vash knows the truth better than anyone that everyone has the capacity for good, and that everyone has the capacity to change for the better; rather, it's the circumstances of one's systems and environment that forces things like exploitation and the desire for revenge. And it's not just sheer naivete either; the show writers clearly display that Vash's philosophy actually works in the first two episodes when people just sit back and take a chance to resolve their situations peacefully or remember the humanity in one another. After the goofy shenanigans are all said and done, the Jeneora Rock gang and the Nebraska family are all communing together in the bar with the town's plant safe, sound, and healthy. It's only when Knives shows up to enact genocide that things go horribly wrong.
Vash's struggles with himans lie in misunderstandings that are more often than not sorted out when people actually get to know him, or from environmental circumstances that may force a betrayal that otherwise wouldn't happen. But none of this is an indictment on humanity as a whole (after all; they're not the ones who crashed the ships on a desert planet), which is why Vash cannot hold a grudge. Meanwhile, it is the only Independent Plant in his life- Knives- who simultaneously sees Vash for who he truly is and yet actively refuses to accept him. At every single turn, Knives is berating him as useless, undercutting his feelings, deriding him as a "human lover" or a "pet," gaslighting him that his capacity for love is actually a sickness or a desperate attempt at atonement for something he didn't even do. Knives loves Vash only to the degree that they are related by blood. But he is an abusive narcissist who is ready and willing to strip away the thing that makes Vash who he is- his heart- which is far worse than what any human can do to him, and it's why he declares he's okay with being on the run.
It's also why it's so important at the end that Vash declares himself as "Vash the Stampede" to his brother's face: he has accepted his moniker from the humans, his place among society, and that there is always a brighter future. Vash isn't annoying. He's a very beautifully written character. Take him to Krispy Kreme ASAP and give him all the donuts.
I hope whatever you say happens like literally more stampede😭
I like the OG series more. The music (the guitar with the sliding glass), the humor, and the pacing was better. I liked how clean the art was in this one, and how it focused more on Knives
It was to my understanding that in Trigun 98, Vash and Knives's guns weren't the SOURCE of the angel-arms power, so much as amps or conduits through which they channeled their Plant power into an energy beam.