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I appreciate good quality audio from a hifi system but most of my time listening is spent at a desk so good quality speakers for the desk set up is appreciated, and my desk speakers have been acting weird so I may take a look at these. Thank you good sir
Those are beautiful. Simple and elegant. I still use a Klipsch thx promedia 2.1 and I'm embarrassed to say how amazing the simple system is. Kanto also makes great inexpensive powered subwoofers. Great system for small rooms.
Fantastic work on this. You swayed a couple of hours of research into a high-confidence purchase of these. As a complete beginner in this space, I appreciated your approachable and unpretentious presentation.
Just got these for my desk and at the price and for the size, they are astonishingly good. And I have heard a lot of speakers over the years.
I just bought a pair of Kanto YU Passives and I like them a lot. Driving them with an Ayima D05 amp and paired with a Kanto Sub 6 and this little system pumps. I also own a pair of Kanto TUKs for a different room and they are really really good. Kanto is great.
I've had a pair of Kanto YU4 on my desk, no sub, with the Kanto stands, since buying them new in 2021. That's the same price as the current ORAs. They are spread 4 ft. apart with two computer monitors in between them and are angled inward. I sit exactly in the center which is ideal, but I am so impressed with L/R separation. I actually listened to them without the stands initially and was stunned when I added them. My computer is connected via optical to a $99 Schitt Modi, and the Modi is connected via RCA to the YU4s. I am very impressed with the sound.
I have the YU's which are the same as YU4 but without phono preamp and other connections. Mine have two monitors between them and are onthe 9" stands. It's like wearing headphones! The sound comes from right in front of me. I liked them so much I bought a pair of YU Passive 5.25's for my main listening setup. Selling my Klipsch 600mii's in preference for the Kanto's.
I guess it must be Kanto Ora release and sell-out day if the CAM loves them! They are tiny, but they can't replace my Ultras. 😂. Thanks for sharing and introducing this product to us all. Have a great week, Sir.
I have a set of Kanto YU Actives w/ a 8inch Boston acoustics sub hooked up to my Schitt stack's pre-out at my desk and they sound amazing. Handles gaming and music very well, so much so that I find I listen to them more than my headphones unless I'm seeking more immersion or am critically listening to music.
Bonus is that connecting a subwoofer automatically engages the high pass filter relieving the speakers of sub 100hz duty. I have heard this in effect and was impressed.
My desktop system is a pair of Kanto YU Passive 5.25 and a Modius/Gjallarhorn for power. They Make Great Speaker stands as well! Love the Kanto stuff!
Heck yeah I LOVE my Kantos. If you have a DAC or just want to use Bluetooth (although not the best on it) and your ok with a little bigger speaker you should check out the Kanto YU($350CAD) it a 4 inch power speaker set with RCA and Bluetooth The YU 4($480CAD) and ORA($400CAD) both have DAC and more ins and outs but the YU's are cheaper. I use it for my bed room set up paired with a SMSL C200 for better Bluetooth. The one thing I like is the potential to upgrade, because when I brought them into my main listening space and put them down in a treated room and a very good DAC they sounded amazing, I was showing my friends how the room matters and they both said they thought the Kantos sounded pretty close to my Focals at 12times the cost. they do really like a little bit of power filtering FYI and like randy said they also really should be Decoupled it makes a huge difference with speakers that small and powerful.
Thanks for all of your testing, and confirming that the Sub does in fact go down to 35Hz at a high dB LOL
I have the Kanto Sub8 so far, so good 👍 Use it with my JBL towers, wish I had room for a 2nd one.
Interesting product. Good brand. Nice video.
Hey Randy, I’ve been following you since the beginning - great show. Published specs are one thing, but have you thought of using a test CD to determine just how low speakers can go, at least in your room?
Kanto make great speakers and this is probably first new one for a few years . They also make great subs and actually do sell little tilted stands for all their speakers .
In his review for one of the Vanatoo speakers, Zeos speculated that the D/A conversion was built into each of the spearer drivers, that could be the case for these as well. However there does need to be a traditional DAC for the sub output. 100Hz crossover is engaged when a sub is connected, so jack the crossover all the way up on the sub and trust the output from the master.
IMHO the Vanatoo Tzero's are the benchmark for "desktop" active speakers in this size for both sound quality & features (I love mine!). Curious on how these compare side-by-side..
I bought YU Passive 4 on a sale few weeks ago and paired them with some cheap 8inch Jamo sub for my desktop PC. I wanted something on a budget for both music and gaming. I was really surprised how well those passive 4inch sounds. They have slight dip around 2k, but overall a steal for the money. At least here in EU where I live. I DSP them together with the sub and I am getting superb 2.1 for reasonable price. However I would be really interested to hear how those bigger 5inch YU perform. Too bad I don't have the space for them :(
Welcome back to TX!
How do they compare to the Vanatoo Transparent Zero Plus you recently reviewed?
Hey! Yurts have great acoustics
I hope you can review the FiiO SP3 too. I’d love to hear a comparison between those and these ORA
Wow exactly ! in the 9 tys I had the little Logitec satelite subwoofger combo and i was dazzled ! at that time. Today is another day so Im listening ...
My yurt could definitely use these, thanks Randy!!! Also my wife says you’re ‘wearing my shirt’, ha, but it’s ok cuz u pull it off better than I do so I’ll allow it 😊
I snagged a pair of OSD Trevoce 8's for 99$ each from their website for their autumn sale. Hands down smokes the two polk 10's that they replaced. The 8's are no longer on sale but the 10 and 12 inchers are still half off right now
Cool review and nice Omega Seamaster 300 ;)
Looks shockingly familiar to the Dayton MK402. I'd love to see you review the MK402 passive speakers BTdubya. I'm wondering if it is the exact same drivers different wrapping.
I've had the Klipsch THX ProMedia 2.1 for 11 years. The foam around the sub surround started to rot and I'm in the process of replacing it. I'm itching for something new but nothing too big for desk setup. I kinda wanna go crazy and get some Focal Shape 40s or some Genelecs, but my klipsch have been more than enough.
Edit also payed 100$ for them over 10 years ago. Such a nice little desktop speaker Aio
Would be interested in a comparison of these with the FiiO SP3 speakers.
Kinda late, I already bought a Kef lsx to replace my Hivi Swan OS10, I was surprised with the kind of performance the OS10 had in in room so I choose to upgrade it. The kef is better, but lacking in bass, so I picked up a sub for it also.
My room is small and I can't fit 5inch and up speakers in it so options is limited, I was in Headphone game before so I thought it's better to just buy the best I can and stop.
do you have alternative for magnetically shielded speaker?
How do they do against the vanatoo transparent one? They seem to be in the same class.
Great review! Can you comment on these vs. the Kanto YU4? We already know they're going to be better than the YU2, but but can the DSP tuning and bi-amplification make up for the bigger drivers of the YU4? (Is there really a replacement for displacement?) I'm trying to decide between the two for my desktop. The YU4 is tempting b/c it can be had for cheaper, but I prefer the USB input of the ORA.
I think the YU4 is going to be a better sounding speaker. I think other factors come into play. The YU4 is a big speaker for a desk setup. I would also recommend drops new speaker "DROP BMR1 NEARFIELD MONITORS". If you want the YU4 I would recommend speaker stand for both sides of the desk, but that depends on space you have.
Hi audio man! If I was overhauling my entire setup for my PC from my klipsch 2.1 media for $500, what is the best solution? Is it these and call it a day or a passive + dac + amp?
Not powered, but I have a set of Dali Spektor 1's (€184) hooked up to a BT20A Pro and connected to a Fosi Audio DS1 dongle DAC and a portable CP-08 BT CD player on my desk. All hooked up to my MacBook Pro. That's about €400. Great little system that I'll be building out, probably with a different DAC and separate headphone amp
I would love to see them up against the YU2, YU4, YU6, and TUK. I have the YU6 and am very happy with them for phono, TV and music. They can do a lot. 😅
For about $100 the pro media 2.1 is hard to beat. I can vouch for that.
I love Klipsch pro media 2.1. Have a set that’s 5+ yo. Bought one recently to do a bootleg solution for a non functioning console stereo.
@@philm6674 awesome aren't they? Hooked up to an Amazon Echo makes a great rig.
Hey, Randy! I wonder, how they compare with Vanatoo t0+?
I have the OG t0's, and I was wondering the same thing.
Same here
Wondering as well. I own the Kanto YU2's and have been waiting for the Emotiva SE8 subs to come back into stock in order to have a sub with a high pass filter attached to them. I was also looking at the Vanatoo Transparent Zero Plus per his review and/or the Vanatoo Transparent One Encore Plus.
Kanto is badass.
Please review the Tuks.
Tried these side by side with the Swan OS10s. I prefer the latter and they are cheaper. Hooked up to the Geshelli JNOG, Wiim Pro and the Leak CD Transport. Beautiful, small room filling, layered and nuanced sound. the Oras are back in the box and heading back home
I'm running these both side by side right now to figure out which I prefer(Ora's and OS10s). I initially thought the clear winner was OS10s, till I put the Ora's on stands(they were sitting on my desk while I was waiting for the stands to arrive) now I'm in between them. I know I can save some cash with the OS10s if I keep them, but something in the Ora's are catching me. However being the fool I am, I also have ordered a few other pairs of powered speakers to compare against lol.
I'll tell ya, back in the day Logitech computer speaker systems were top notch... often rivaling conventional "cheap audio" systems at the time!
Yes. But now Logitech is way to cheap of a sound. I bought a pair years ago that I thought had a tweeter and a woofer. Turns out the tweeter is literally just for show as I discovered last year. There's something to make it look like a tweeter, but it's just a cheap piece of plastic. Only the woofer produces sound. And their website doesn't mention that it's just a "dummy" tweeter. When I found that out I vowed to boycott all Logitech speakers. They make decent mice w/ cool designs, but as for speakers, they're worthless.
Left mine withe the Ex-wife. I was getting out in a hurry and they weren't considered. But now I'm sad. 😥
@@ramonbmoviesI have the Logitech Z906 5.1 system that has that piece of plastic you’re talking about. I knew it wasn’t a functional part of the speaker when I bought them, but I’ve never found the sound to be lacking, which is what really matters. Did you not like the sound of your speakers?
@@SyzygyNoonI kind of did but also noticed sound quality to be lower than my taste. Plus, the sub it comes with not good at all - no punch, and it only goes down to around 50hz if I remember correctly. I was also kind of pissed off because many years ago I specifically got that system for having what I thought was a 2-way system, only to find out years later it was faked. The Kanto speakers I got are so much better, and even w/o the sub they go down to 50hz by themselves, and actually a little lower.
@@ramonbmovies Fair enough. Thanks for responding. (Sorry it took so long to reply.)
I’d definitely wanna hear how these stack up against their TUKs.
They won't. The Tuks are much more of standmount while these are little desk top speakers. The better comparison would be with their YU4
The TUK’s are considerably larger/more powerful. Also AMT tweeters, aluminum woofers etc. very different.
How do these compare to a set of ILoud Micro's?
Just wondering how long is the speaker wire that comes with it. Wanted to use them as nightstand speakers?
I think it's 6 feet.
Do you like these better than the Vanatoo Transparent Zero? You liked those too and they are about the same price.
Has anyone compared these to the Audioengine HD3? Similarly priced but seemingly a little more versatile? I'm very curious as I currently use the HD3.
Any good sub pairing to match with these in my office? Considering the Kanto Sub8, but seen some comments online that there are better alternatives.
You should check out their YU6 Great speakers the pair so well with their Sub8
I would like to buy the kEF LSX 2 for gaming on PS4/ps5 at my computer desk using a monitor what’s your opinion about them. Looking for a nice sounds at my computer space pls help
Epic nosehairs. Nice.
These look nice. I would consider them if I didn’t recently purchase the Swan OS-10. Those sound great and are only $100 but don’t have a sub out. Luckily for my situation I won’t need a sub.
I did a side by side of these with the Swan OS10. The Swan are better and cheaper. You aren't missing anything
How do these behave during low volume listening?
They are 350 dollars. They shouldn't be compared to computer speakers, but with studio monitors. There are plenty of very good monitors for that kind of money. Been running a set of M-audio BX5a's for ten years now. Just XLR or TRS inputs. each speaker has it's own volume control and dual class A/B Amp (double as radiators in winter). Less than 200 dollars at the time.
These are very light so bound the fall of your desk if you don't fix them ;).
"I Wish." Great tune. Should have won the Grammy. Skee-Lo was robbed.
❤that song
I have the Kanto YU6 and they have excellent sound. I don't doubt the ORA sounds good too, but I'm willing to put my powered YU6 against the ORA. Still, the ORA seems like a good solution for a small room.
'Active' and 'powered' are straight synonyms. Any distinction is spurious, with the possible exception for a speaker that has inbuilt DSP for room correction, etc. I *guess* we could call that active "active" in comparision to a non-DSP "powered", but then, "Speaker with onbaord DSP" is a lot more descriptive.
i DO have the Klipsch Promedia 2.1 and the $150 pricing for a speaker that images unbelievably and its sub that is included which goes down to the 35Hz range, I don't see any motivation for these Kantos, even though they seem like they are great. they would have to be pretty spectacular for me to go that much for 100Hz cutoff.
...hifitommy
I'll stick with my Monsoon MM-2000 4.1 setup (at least, until it dies) for desktop/near field.
The speaker with the amp looks to be the right channel, in case that matters.
The low end Adam Active monitor speakers (£300 pair - both monitors are active) like the T5V will send these Kanto's packing :)
Heard the Elac Debut ConneX at CAF and was amazed. Anyone A/B those with these Kanto’s, Randy?
I am torn between Klipsch R-41 PM or Kanto Ora. There Will be a sub. Usage Will be for gaming and movies in a smaller office. Any advice?
Love me some Skee-Lo!!!
Still using the old pro media 5.1s on the computer.
PreSonus Eris 3.5, $99. With Bluetooth $150. Best value for money that I have personally used. And they’re built well and they can take a hell of a beating! Very good sound for the price. I recommend them to Everyone!!!!
You might like the Klipsh Pro Media 2.0. You should do a review on those. :)
Cute speakers
How do these compare sound quality and experience wise to the Klipsch Fives/Sevens?
They don't compete. The Klipsch 5/7s are full size and NOT desktop speakers. The ORAs are tiny. Really, do you need a new pair of eyes/glasses?
Like a tricycle to a Dodge RAM
@@D1N02 ok, but what will be the actual difference between them?
Just think about this... how can a pair of speakers output sound from USB connection without a built-in DAC?
I had a Logitech 5.1 system that sounded really good, I was using it as a 3.1 as it had a center channel that hosted the knobs and controls and the small sub as Randy mentioned. Then I got the Klipsch ProMedia at...um Costco...and I thought it sounded great (whudda I know?) until not a month after I bought it, I got on my knees under the desk to reposition the sub, reached around the back edge and my finger sparked a big static charge on one of the back plate screws. The system made a mighty POWWW sound and it was dead. Turns out the v2 version which this was does not have a replaceable fuse. It's soldered to the board (freaking really???). So I took it back to Costco who took it back no questions asked after Klipsch did NOTHING from a customer support perspective. I currently have the Edifier 350S something something and it works great for near field, but I am feeling like I've run up against the limits on it.
Awesome just heard about these...and with DSP!
Little Kantos always had credible bass, not pushy but real...
I spent around $150 for a pair of passive Kantos (5 inches) and a topping mx3s (headphone and speaker dac/amp) for less than $200. Come on Kato.
For 350 is should sound good. Lots of competition at that range
You should have a talk with your desk
In 1984, as a kid, I suggested to an engineer to split the digital signal and use a separate amplifier for each cone, something we know today as a digital crossover.
Was I ahead of my age? When were the first digital crossovers on the market? And more importantly: why isn't that the standard?
I don’t think you were the first to think of that 😊
It has a DAC, in fact if you run something in through RCA, it’s going to convert it to digital and then back to analog again.
Why would it do that? And how do you know? Do other powered speakers do this?
@@nshandyI’m guessing it’s because of the onboard DSP that Randy mentioned.
Excuse my ignorance here, but are you saying there is both an ADC and a DAC and that both would be used in the case of RCA input use? When using the RCA inputs, the signal is entering the speakers as analog already. There is no need to convert it to digital via the ADC and then to analog yet again via the DAC. Did I miss something?
@@mainetomass99 yes, all these great active speakers use DSP for both crossover functions and also equalization. Analog needs to be converted to digital through ADC so the DSP can do its job.
Not all active speakers have anything digital inside of them. Not all powered speakers have anything digital inside. I have both as well as DSP active speakers.
Many powered and active speakers also include streaming, some kind of room correction and use DSP to control the drive units and these do convert any analogue input to digital for correction and then back to analogue.
Are the vanatoos transparent zero plus worth the extra money for desktop gaming use? No sub
Any static noise or hissing?
So they seem to challenge the iLoud Micro Monitors at $350
Whoa whoa whoa, I saw a little jab at CostCo! I love CostCo for meats (rated #1 by consumer reports). We need a CAM retailer shootout video for A/V!
lol. I know it’s a very unpopular opinion about Costco…. Maybe that shootout will be coming soon
If you like Bill Gates lab grown meats, sure...
Hmm...think they will be on sale anytime soon?
Maybe for Black Friday? MAYBE? Throw me a BONE!!
Hmm comparison KEF LSX ?
Vanatoo T0 could also compete with them right
Nothing will beat Swan OS-10 in its price point
No digital input and no remote. Swan os-10 would walk on mr4 anyday
I tried these vs the Swan OS10. The Oras are back in the box and on their way back home
I have a pair of old Fostex aluminum speakers. Plays loud music in the shop. Black paint was pitting, sanded it, now it’s bare aluminum.
Hey! All good? Why don't you put the equipment to play? It would be really cool if there was this on the channel. Don't feel compelled to do this for us. Hugs!
Will they get released in white at some point?
At $350 a pair these speakers better perform. Lots of options at that price.
Did u get a chance to use usb C?
It would be great if the next step up from this included HDMI ARC and/or optical input and a remote control for using with a TV.
You had me up until you mentioned the price, then I bounce. Yeah, $200 for a pair of computer speakers, fine, but not much above that. These are just too expensive.
Randy, why do you hate Costco?
I'm glad you did not say audioengine a2 for 300 those are horrible
ATTENTION Randy: Since you
Asked during live stream recently. The deal fell through on the Nakamichi Dragon….next.
You still haven’t told me what model of Nakamichi you have with respect ??😱 I can send you some very high quality and valuable Type II tapes and metal IV tape to experiment with.
Cassette can sound amazing and truly dynamic to say the least. It’s all about high end decks. Great tapes and proper recording techniques 🙏🙏🇮🇱🇺🇸 It’s not rocket science.
My old Nakamichi 580 was among the few cassette decks that didn't limit the tape's performance level. It had manual bias and Dolby level trim pots preset for TDK tapes but I quickly discovered the optimum Maxell and Sony settings.
I saw some people commenting that "Klipsch pro media 2.1 costs 100$". Is that real? Because in Viet Nam it is sold for $250
im seeing one being sold on Amazon for $102.32 as of now
The Kanto YU and YU2 are the powered computer speakers. The Kanto Ora might be the replacement. Interesting is that they do "DSP tuning". The amplifier in the primary speaker powers the drive units in the secondary speaker which Kanto refer to as a passive speaker but the multi-pin connection cable suggests that the secondary speaker has no passive crossover.
Having Bluetooth 5.0 and USB-C for connection to a computer the Kanto Ora has to have a DAC. With DSP tuning even the analogue input would go through the DSP and so it must have an analogue to digital convertor. Usually this means latency on watching a movie and might have via the RCA and Bluetooth but the USB-C might avoid latency issues - not always the case as B&O speakers with USB-C audio still have latency issues because of the DSP and room correction.
Powered speakers have an amplifier built into the primary and the second speaker connected by a two core bell wire and so have passive cross overs.
Active speakers amplification in both speakers and an active crossover. There are some cases where all the electronics is built into the primary speaker but a multi-core cable connects to the secondary speaker but the active crossover in the primary. B&O have a four channel amplifier that converts old passive speakers to active with the user cutting out and removing the passive cross over with the electronics fitted to a Raspberry Pi computer to provide Bluetooth, wi-fi, Ethernet and connection to digital services. Linn Series 3 is a single speaker and a very different secondary when wanting a stereo set up. Adam Audio and Genelec speakers are active and you buy two identical speakers to set up as a stereo pair. They don't have digital inputs, no Bluetooth, no streaming or DACS.
DSP speakers are found as powered and active versions. DAC is often because of Bluetooth and wi-fi input along side Toslink and coaxial digital inputs. Many do room correction and digital tuning in which case there is no analogue by-pass and everything gets converted to digital before amplification.
Powered speakers start from a very low cost up to the likes of Audioengine A1 (159GBP) , A2+ (249GBP) and A5+ (425GBP) to Acoustic Energy AE1 (1050GBP). The Kanto YU2 at 169GBP, YU4 at 290GBP. YU4 drop USB for a moving magnet phono stage.
Few active speakers would be considered cheap. Adam Audio T5V at 318GBP, T7V at 358GBP but Genelec 8020D at 798 GBP. where the competition starts.
It a speaker has electronics inside and any wireless connection it is not immediately clear if it has any analogue by-pass to ADC and DAC, digital amplification and DSP tuning. This may affect their use with televisions and computers because of potential latency problems. Some adjustment might be possible (e.g. using VLC on a computer) but these might not be automatic or easy to set up for every movie or video clip.
One of the positive selling points of the YU range has been the finish. The bamboo and other finishes contrast to everything black or dark wood veneers.
Presonus E3 powered speaker at a fraction of the Ora price is amazing and much better value than the Ora.