Yes, and often even if you do everything right you can still end up with very little spotting damage. I find most teams don't set up in good places to deal damage from LT spotting.
@@StephenJohnson-jb7xe I played LT today. I died multiple times when I would go into positions which usually would not be too aggressive, but would die horribly, because my team for some reason would refuse to go into normal positions. They would abandon entire flanks and would lemming to either one or the other direction. Of course, we assuredly lost all those matches in a pretty one sided fashion. My other favorite is when my team lemmings to one side, overwhelms enemies there and breakthroughs. Then they all stop to look for ineffective shots on their sides or are spooked by a single tank destroyer lighting them up. So they stop and let other undermanned flanks to be overwhelmed.
Watching those tanks being erased within 5 seconds of being spotted, over and over again on Prokhorova was a thing of beauty! That was a heck of a lot of fire power behind Ferox.
When you elevate your gun, one of the points from which spotting rays are emmited is higher up. I'm pretty sure it's located at the base of the gun so effect is minimal but still.
The other point at the top of the turret denies virtually any advantage, save for some very specific angles where you would gain a few milliseconds. The difference is microscopic, it's probably just for the memes
That group of heavies rolled right up with him,that’s when everyone does what they’re supposed to and when it comes together like that it’s hard to beat
These games are actually some of the most thrilling games I've seen in a while. I guess the same old stuff I always do, bumming around in my heavy(I'm not particularly good) is getting old on me, thus those types of videos are normal to me. But the suspense of, "how close can he get and not be spotted" brings some excitement back
I believe QB knows this full well. But considering Soul Stealer keeps it raised the whole game, i'm guessing he is raising the gun mantlet a little higher for better spotting.
Beginning with the crate openings my holidays are always filled with these videos of the years best category. It truly has become tradition. Thank you for keeping up with these my friend.
As soon as saw how the enemy team had positioned themselves on Prokhorovka, I could imagine just how their chat sounded within a minute of the game started...and went downhill from there!🤣
Some tanks can manipulate the spotting node on the mantle better than others. The gsor has nice elevation values so lifting it up and to the side pobaly puts it high enough to see over some ridges
I want to highlight here, that some mediums are good for spotting too. Yesterday, I hat a game in my CS-63 on Prokh and had 10k spot damage at the end. If your light dies within the first 30 seconds (like so often) your meds start shaming the player but won't move by themselves. Usually, when I play a light tank and spot about 2/3rd of the enemies my team is camping and, if shooting at all, not hitting the biggest ship of a tank. -.-' I hate playin' lights because of that. Unfortunately, I have to for the missions.
Mechanics work through the top of the gun and several other points. So if you raise the gun, you can get a few pixels that are enough to spot. Good video!
Actually i like this format, rather than having most damaging battles, it would be great to have most spotting games or most assistance games, to not only watch heavy tanks into action
The reason of the raised gun is that if you will be able to get the more spotting because the gun will be further than when in normal possision and my highest is 28,902 spotting
Actually all view range counts towards the enemy camo rating, just that having more than the limit pushed the camo effectiveness further I remember once there was a guy in my game who said he can't scout because he didn't have 445 view range, and that he wouldn't spot anyone hiding in bushes
The maximum I've done is 7k spotting on prokhorovka , would've been more but i had to share the spotting with another light on my team. We had both LT , enemy LT died early
I wish I could get good spotting in a light tank. I really struggle with that class, just because I like to brawl and get impatient when waiting around for a long time. The most spotting I ever got was around 4.5k in my 59-16. It was on a Redshire Assault, where I was the attacker. Usually, it takes a lot of effort to be the defender on that map. This particular battle was the one and only time I've seen where the defenders were able to stay hidden for long periods of time. My teammates weren't pushing up as many normally do, nor were they shooting much when I did spot at the beginning. I did my best to flank around several times and spot, but most the enemy was dug in and I couldn't find many of them. Finally, I was able to start getting some damage, because my teammates poked over the ridgeline. Unfortunately, we ended up losing. It was me, an ISU-152, and some tier 7 medium against an SU-122-44, a Tiger 1, and an arty. Our medium was camping in south while the enemy blitzed through me and the ISU. Great game, but light tanks are just very difficult for me.
I'd love to be in the brains of the half of that team that ended with 0 damage in the last game, all looking at 15 tanks sitting in a corner with absolutely no vision or map control
He is raising his gun because he knows the game mechanic. Spotting includes s ray drawn from the end of the gun, so by holding it high he can spot over terrain (including bushes) he'd otherwise not be able to see over.
what is the end of the gun? viewpoint is at the base of the gun, where it connects to the mantlet, so raising it really does not matter. on gsor it does not matter, if you turn your turret or not, because it is so small. but on some tanks it does, so locking the turret can be a good idea, because you can turn it out of the bush (borat and ebr 105 for example)
my best spotting was on Prohorovka in my scout MAUS. Just angled, hit the rr key and went down the west flank. , no arty and everyone was in front of me. my side hurt from laughing. lOve that hell cat though
Reason his gun is lifted.. is because the gun is what gives sight to spot in that light tank, it's strictly for spotting. This isn't a meme as I am saying this, it's how the tank spots, some mediums do the same thing as well, it's how WG has places the "view port" for these kinds of tanks.
I've been trying to complete some of the Obj 260 light tank missions myself. Problem is, I get maps not suited to those personal missions 99% of the bloody time.
3:56 "marking out the territory" "extending the view range" *WHAT* do you mean by that strange combination of words? Does marking out the territory extends the view range?
My best spotting was on the same map as the GSOR in the tier 10 chinese light tank with 17k assist. (it was the test server but i'm proud of the result)
You should research the spotting points on a tank for the first replay and you will understand why he is raising his gun. On second replay, is the ebr locking on the enemy ebr without even seeing the tank silhouette?
Not much of a light tank player, but my best spotting game was in a bat chat 12t (currently my only tier 8+ light tank) in Prokhorovka. 8k spotting, and we still lost.
Quick, you do not need to hold mouse button. Hold the mouse button, push the control key, release the mouse button, release the control key. Ready, your turret is locked until you push the right mouse button again.
@@mile_381 Welcome! I don't know why this information is not spread along the CCs. I discovered it by myself. Perhaps QB do not know about it too. In reality this game documentation is far scarse and bad explained. Wen I see this new game modes and instantly get bored. Another crazy rule to think about.
This is what people imagine spotting be like when they decide to play light tanks...
can confirm
EXACTLY then they rush in and die in 3 seconds....
Yes, and often even if you do everything right you can still end up with very little spotting damage. I find most teams don't set up in good places to deal damage from LT spotting.
@@StephenJohnson-jb7xe I played LT today. I died multiple times when I would go into positions which usually would not be too aggressive, but would die horribly, because my team for some reason would refuse to go into normal positions. They would abandon entire flanks and would lemming to either one or the other direction. Of course, we assuredly lost all those matches in a pretty one sided fashion.
My other favorite is when my team lemmings to one side, overwhelms enemies there and breakthroughs. Then they all stop to look for ineffective shots on their sides or are spooked by a single tank destroyer lighting them up. So they stop and let other undermanned flanks to be overwhelmed.
@@REgamesplayer yes the lemming rush that stops because of one or two enemy tanks is a common problem.
Watching those tanks being erased within 5 seconds of being spotted, over and over again on Prokhorova was a thing of beauty! That was a heck of a lot of fire power behind Ferox.
Ong I loved watching tbaty
Thay
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Yes, the trick is knowing you have supporting fire also. And when they had 90* of firing angles on them, it was GG as he spotted them...
When you elevate your gun, one of the points from which spotting rays are emmited is higher up. I'm pretty sure it's located at the base of the gun so effect is minimal but still.
The other point at the top of the turret denies virtually any advantage, save for some very specific angles where you would gain a few milliseconds. The difference is microscopic, it's probably just for the memes
there is a very very important thing when you want to do a lot of spotting, something that is very rare to obtain, a good team that can shoot.
bhahaha, do you really think yo decide the battle? wg rigs the game so you loose and buy silver, this is a scam
@@imammumbata194 Does that tinfoil hurt on your head?
Another thing that is helpful: have a map that actually allows you to spot
That 2nd game was the closest thing I've ever seen to a firing range in WOT.
LOL
That group of heavies rolled right up with him,that’s when everyone does what they’re supposed to and when it comes together like that it’s hard to beat
These games are actually some of the most thrilling games I've seen in a while. I guess the same old stuff I always do, bumming around in my heavy(I'm not particularly good) is getting old on me, thus those types of videos are normal to me.
But the suspense of, "how close can he get and not be spotted" brings some excitement back
14:31 there is still one twelfth of 2022 yet to pass
My 6th game in my T100LT was on Prokhorovka back in April of 2021.
18125 assist, 1283 damage, 2 kills. 1626xp and finished LT mission 15.
That's the moment you ask yourself if you should already sell the tank as it probably won't get much better :D
Imagine being on LT-14 while having this game.
Omg QB, it's that time of the year again when you post loads of vids and have "the most" type-o-vids. Can't wait for it, good luck and be safe!
Thats not a salute to the gods, thats a salute to SKILL4LTU! BABOON ARMY!
I believe QB knows this full well. But considering Soul Stealer keeps it raised the whole game, i'm guessing he is raising the gun mantlet a little higher for better spotting.
Soul collector doesn't have a gun, but a soul vacuum cleaner, for vacuuming dead souls all around him.
2 days ago I spotted +12K damage with ShPTK-TVP on this map :D
Spotting needs to be rewarded a lot more
GSOR British light tank is my favorite, love the look, and great stats
Beginning with the crate openings my holidays are always filled with these videos of the years best category. It truly has become tradition. Thank you for keeping up with these my friend.
Soul collector the name is so perfect 🤣
As soon as saw how the enemy team had positioned themselves on Prokhorovka, I could imagine just how their chat sounded within a minute of the game started...and went downhill from there!🤣
I’ve watched every single quackybabs yt video and almost every stream. I just need moreee
The teams in the replays:
Active gameplay shooting the enemys.
My team when i play a Light tank:
Camping at the back having tea...
Some tanks can manipulate the spotting node on the mantle better than others. The gsor has nice elevation values so lifting it up and to the side pobaly puts it high enough to see over some ridges
I want to highlight here, that some mediums are good for spotting too. Yesterday, I hat a game in my CS-63 on Prokh and had 10k spot damage at the end. If your light dies within the first 30 seconds (like so often) your meds start shaming the player but won't move by themselves. Usually, when I play a light tank and spot about 2/3rd of the enemies my team is camping and, if shooting at all, not hitting the biggest ship of a tank. -.-' I hate playin' lights because of that. Unfortunately, I have to for the missions.
Mechanics work through the top of the gun and several other points. So if you raise the gun, you can get a few pixels that are enough to spot. Good video!
The way both light tanks cutting down trees in front of the opponent eyes and none of them blind fires makes me wonder
Now i get what "NOBB LIGHT SPOT" truly means.
This is what every light tank player should play like, most of his team are not dead and at high hp whilst the opponent is clearly losing
Actually i like this format, rather than having most damaging battles, it would be great to have most spotting games or most assistance games, to not only watch heavy tanks into action
The reason of the raised gun is that if you will be able to get the more spotting because the gun will be further than when in normal possision and my highest is 28,902 spotting
He must of been giggling all the way down that 1-2 line.
Teams who shoot spotted targets?!?!?!
In that first game, when the UDES 16 suicided right from the get-go, that tells you something.
Soul collector's has actually installed a periscope in his gun.
Makes sense.
I had to check if this was my game when I was on the enemy team, because it feels like this almost every game on that map XD
Actually all view range counts towards the enemy camo rating, just that having more than the limit pushed the camo effectiveness further
I remember once there was a guy in my game who said he can't scout because he didn't have 445 view range, and that he wouldn't spot anyone hiding in bushes
I almost exited this video when I saw it was a GSOR, hate that tank lol, but I'll watch it cuz of you QB!
The maximum I've done is 7k spotting on prokhorovka , would've been more but i had to share the spotting with another light on my team. We had both LT , enemy LT died early
I wish I could get good spotting in a light tank. I really struggle with that class, just because I like to brawl and get impatient when waiting around for a long time. The most spotting I ever got was around 4.5k in my 59-16. It was on a Redshire Assault, where I was the attacker. Usually, it takes a lot of effort to be the defender on that map. This particular battle was the one and only time I've seen where the defenders were able to stay hidden for long periods of time. My teammates weren't pushing up as many normally do, nor were they shooting much when I did spot at the beginning. I did my best to flank around several times and spot, but most the enemy was dug in and I couldn't find many of them. Finally, I was able to start getting some damage, because my teammates poked over the ridgeline. Unfortunately, we ended up losing. It was me, an ISU-152, and some tier 7 medium against an SU-122-44, a Tiger 1, and an arty. Our medium was camping in south while the enemy blitzed through me and the ISU. Great game, but light tanks are just very difficult for me.
we all know who is he saluting
That GSOR game was played by my clan mate :D i'm going to have to send him some gold or something for the beautiful game
I Got so confused for a second when I saw the thumbnail because I have the same Camo as the EBR and 2 marks 😂
I'd love to be in the brains of the half of that team that ended with 0 damage in the last game, all looking at 15 tanks sitting in a corner with absolutely no vision or map control
Ohh boy... if only I had teammates that can do 50% of the shooting EBR's and GSOR's teammates did...
What a legend that EBR is!
I was in a game where an even 90 put up 11,000 assisted damage, he cared that whole team
Thank u for Saturday video!
About 17k on Prokhorovka in Manticore, when all the stars did allign, 20k combined
He is raising his gun because he knows the game mechanic. Spotting includes s ray drawn from the end of the gun, so by holding it high he can spot over terrain (including bushes) he'd otherwise not be able to see over.
what is the end of the gun? viewpoint is at the base of the gun, where it connects to the mantlet, so raising it really does not matter. on gsor it does not matter, if you turn your turret or not, because it is so small. but on some tanks it does, so locking the turret can be a good idea, because you can turn it out of the bush (borat and ebr 105 for example)
@@ottrakkaselg8033 yes, the gsor has a long mantlet which pushes the spotting point further from the turret, lifting the gun raises that point
22400 spotting and only 1581 xp. Somehow that just don't sound right.
good concave in that second game
keeping the reticle out of the way so he can just find a tank, easily see if it's spotted or not & ask the team to shoot it
My best spotting was with Super Hellcat on Prokhorovka, south spawn and early west side spotting, then mit and east side.
my best spotting was on Prohorovka in my scout MAUS. Just angled, hit the rr key and went down the west flank. , no arty and everyone was in front of me. my side hurt from laughing. lOve that hell cat though
7228 in a T54... yeah I know.. but we had no lights, so I took on the role. Did not have CVS though
Top priority for a light is to out live the enemy one.
Reason his gun is lifted.. is because the gun is what gives sight to spot in that light tank, it's strictly for spotting. This isn't a meme as I am saying this, it's how the tank spots, some mediums do the same thing as well, it's how WG has places the "view port" for these kinds of tanks.
most spotting in my ebr was 15,697 with bounty vents bond optics concealment directive and exhaust. i have 60% concealment when moving
the manticore i got just over 10k on properovka and the only other stat i got over 10k was armor blocked i got 10k blocked in the maus on Erlenberg
My personal best is 11.827 spotting in a tier VI VK 28.01, though back when it had the "fun gun".
I've been trying to complete some of the Obj 260 light tank missions myself. Problem is, I get maps not suited to those personal missions 99% of the bloody time.
I need spotters like those 2 on my team, then i'll be happy being the sniper
My type 62 sits at 489 meters view range. I'm sure if I put a premium consumable and bond equipment it would be even higher
WT E 100 back in game?
TIL that "Marks of Excellence" is not only dmg done xD
Respect for raised PIPI
Perhaps the first guy lits his viewrange port on the mantlet for better spotting
3:56 "marking out the territory" "extending the view range"
*WHAT* do you mean by that strange combination of words? Does marking out the territory extends the view range?
I always get city maps when i try to play light tanks so just never play them anymore
Oh I wish i could get Prokhorovka and Malinovka maps. I only seem to get them 1 in every 200ish games.
Bloody great QB !!
Hi, 17K spotting dmg a few years ago , in the same map of the 2nd replay
My best spotting was on the same map as the GSOR in the tier 10 chinese light tank with 17k assist. (it was the test server but i'm proud of the result)
We need the best Spotting Maus game XD
This might give WG an idea of light tanks without a gun.
You should research the spotting points on a tank for the first replay and you will understand why he is raising his gun. On second replay, is the ebr locking on the enemy ebr without even seeing the tank silhouette?
The EBR is NOT a light tank!!!!
WT E100 in 2020 ????
I got 17.2k spotting this year , its a lot harder to get from 17k to 20k which a lot of people dont see
Ir u press The right Button and then CTRL while holding The right Button your gun Will stand still on The last position u aimed
Most spotting i have done was 9k, on prokorovka in T100-lt
My best spotting game was on studzianki with kranvagn! Got 9k spotting and I still can't believe how I managed to did that
Not much of a light tank player, but my best spotting game was in a bat chat 12t (currently my only tier 8+ light tank) in Prokhorovka. 8k spotting, and we still lost.
The second map is were i did my very best for the light tank spotting it was like 8k dmg got that so quik by running g like a chicken with no head
So I also thought that the white line was my max view Range...?
I once did like about 9,7k on prokarovka in my elc
You was right its a dream :D for anyone who loves lights
My highest spotting was on Highway and I did it one of the worst LT I have, T-54 Ltwt.
9k spot+1-2kdmg.
Quick, you do not need to hold mouse button. Hold the mouse button, push the control key, release the mouse button, release the control key. Ready, your turret is locked until you push the right mouse button again.
@@mile_381 Welcome!
I don't know why this information is not spread along the CCs. I discovered it by myself. Perhaps QB do not know about it too. In reality this game documentation is far scarse and bad explained.
Wen I see this new game modes and instantly get bored. Another crazy rule to think about.
Isn't it still November? 😂
Still one month to go in 2022
my best spotting this year was 15k with tier9 :)
Good content
No one in an EBR is a hero. It's legalized griefing, essentially. Mad respect to the memelord in the GSOR, tho.
It takes a while to get your light tank to that point
I think the most i got was on a Halloween special German tank got like 9k and ill I did was run around the map to the ridge and back
I'm here opening bottles when I get 3k spotting
i'd say, gsor is my favorite tank in the game.
Karelia is a map where light tanks rule, t oo.
did he not raised his gun to have his spotting point higher ? (there is one on the tip of the gun)
16 K in the T-100LT
Damn i thought my 16k on prok was great lol. Used a manti for that one
Is there a MOD that tells you the best spotting locations for each map?
Another video about game rigging would be good.